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Kristin Cavallari
This episode is brought to you by AG1. Go to drinkag1.com honest and get a free welcome kit with your first purchase. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Cause I got all the power. Yep. Welcome in. Happy Almost Thanksgiving. When you guys are listening to this, I will be frolicking around New York City and I am very excited for that. Justin Scoot and I are going to New York for a few days during Thanksgiving because my ex has my kids and so I do not want to stay home. I want to go be a bougie bitch and whoop it up in New York City. So that is what we're going to do. Also, if you're watching, I am still not in my podcast studio. I'm so mad about it. I got everything. I put the wallpaper up and did all the things and I don't like it. So I'm going to get a different big chair that I'm going to sit in and I'm going to completely redo the background. It's all very neutral right now. And I realized on camera, neutral is not the best. It's like, great for my actual home aesthetic, but not for camera. So bear with me, guys. The podcast studio is not going to be ready here for another probably a couple months, honestly. So we're just going to keep filming in my empty living room, but I am getting furniture in two days. So next time you do see this, I will actually have living room furniture, which hallelujah. You know what I'm saying? We're slowly getting there. Okay, anyways, guys, today is going to be fun. If you are a very loyal listener, then you will know that in the past, when I've had bigger celebrities come on, I like to read them headlines and have them clear up what was really going on. What, you know, like, what the real scoop was. Because I have always hated headlines. For 20 years. They have just annoy the shit out of me, quite honestly, because they're all about clickbait. They're all about just grabbing people's attention, and they're as outrageous as humanly possible. So what I'm going to do today is go through headlines of me over the years and we're going to clear the air and we're going to spill some motherfucking tea because I'm in my villain era, motherfuckers, I do not care anymore. And you know what? Some people have really pissed me off over the years and I've kind of stayed quiet and I haven't really. Well, you know, the thing is I didn't have a platform to. To talk about this stuff. That's actually, this is why I love the podcast so much because it's the first time in my 20 year career that I can actually come on here and I can clear stuff up if I want to and I don't comment on everything. And I know I could have used Instagram and social media and stuff, but I don't know, I just. This is obviously completely different, this sort of platform, being able to have a discussion about some stuff. So I'm really looking forward to today. And you know what, you guys, we're just gonna fucking start strong because that's just what we do here. Let's be honest. So let's go back probably. God, this must have been 2008. Ish. Okay, right around there. And by the way, my producer sent me all of these headlines. Going back and looking at myself would not be cute. So thank you, Rosie, my producer, shout out to you for doing the heavy lifting here, having to sit through all of that. Okay, so anyways, the first headline, guys, Kristen Cavallari denies fling with Kourtney Kardashian's man. Okay, so obviously it's talking about Scott Disick. And okay, I'll just read you. I only have like the first little blip. It says while word spreads that Keeping up with the Kardashians villain Scott Disick had a fling with the Hill star Kristen Cavallari while he was on a break from long term girlfriend. Okay, so here's what happened, guys. I had known Scott, I mean, honestly, probably Since I was 18 or so, just being in LA, we ran in the same group, group of friends. A lot of my friends knew Scott, so I knew Scott. We used to party together. We used to hang out all the time. Nothing ever happened between us. And then he started dating Courtney. That was how I met Courtney was through Scott, Courtney and I became really good friends. And I really loved Courtney. We had so much fun together. I mean, I really, I liked her a lot. And Scott and Courtney broke up. Well, I'm still friends with Scott, right? Like, I don't. I didn't know in those situations you had to choose a side. Especially because I met Courtney through Scott. Okay, well, so I go to Las Vegas. I think I was. I don't know if I was hosting an event or going to an event. I can't. There was a specific reason why I was going to Las Vegas, though. And my friend Stu, who was also really good friends with Scott, Scott came, and my friend Ryan. Okay, it was me and three guys. I was like, I thrived in those situations. And we went out, we had a great time. Nothing happened. I was never alone with Scott. Not even for one fucking minute was I ever alone with Scott. Okay, Next morning, wake up, I think it was that said Scott and I hooked up in Vegas, and I'm like, what the fuck? Who would. Like, how do they even come up with this stuff, by the way, 20 years later? Actually, Justin just texted me this morning with a different headline that he saw about me. And he was like, who says this stuff? Because this headline was actually spot on. And I was even like, well, clearly someone talked. Because, like, this is, like, this is what I said. And I still, to this day, sometimes have no fucking idea where this stuff comes from. Honest to God. And what I also know is typically when they write articles like this, they have to have two sources. It can't just be, like, one person calling in and being like, I saw Kristin Cavallari at Jason Aldean's on Broadway making out with Scott Disick. They would need to verify that from one other source, which I actually will say, like, that's good, because anyone could just call in and be like, make up, whatever. So I. But I still. It's like. It's like I will never understand, like, who these sources are. Quite honestly, sometimes I do, and other times I'm like, I don't understand. Anyways, I digress. Okay? So I'm like, what the fuck? I was so pissed. Obviously, too. Anytime you're accused of hooking up with someone when you didn't like, that shit just irks me, right? And I'm friends with Courtney, and it's just like. So. To me, though, it was, like, so obvious that it would never happen, that I also was like, that won't. Like, I'll talk to Courtney and it won't be an issue. But Stu was like, I know for a fact. Scott is the one who told. And I know for a fact, too, and I'll tell you why. Because there was zero truth to it. We weren't even being flirty or touchy. Like, there was nothing to it. I could see if we were out at a club and we were, like, flirting and, like, just being drunk and, like, having fun, but that wasn't even the case, and I can't remember exactly, but, like, how it was worded. Stu and I both were like, oh, my God, it's 100% Scott that did this to get Courtney back, to piss off Courtney. Because I will say, like, these manipulative guys are smart like that, where for a lot of times, when girls see that a guy's moved on, they're like, wait, wait, wait, I don't. I want him back. No, no, no, no. I want him. And so. And it worked. They got back together. And I remember talking to Courtney, being like, courtney, you know, nothing happened. And what she said to me was, well, I don't know. I have sisters, and I would just never put myself in that situation. I was like, okay, okay. So she just sort of wanted a reason to, I think, not be friends with me anymore. And I remember at the time, I was so pissed about this rumor because it wasn't fucking true. So I did an interview, and I said, you know, the Kardashians have had every opportunity to just simply say it's not true, but they haven't. And I think at the time, Kim was getting a divorce from Chris Humphries, and this was a great distraction. And, you know, they always have a motive. And what do you know, you guys? 18, 17, 18. I don't remember when this was. Years later now, here we are. Okay, so if you guys listen to the podcast, the last month or so, I've been ripping on the fucking Carduchians, okay? Haven't held back. Well, what interesting timing that I get a DM on Instagram from Scott fucking Disick, and I'm going to read it to you guys because I don't give a flying fuck anymore. They fucked with me for these many years, and you don't get to just do this. And if this is not the most manipulative text I've ever gotten, well, then I don't know what is. Guys, this is classic textbook manipulation control bullshit, okay? This is what it says. Hey. Three exclamation points. It's been such a long time. It's crazy. Kind of crazy that our lives are also ended up being kind of similar. I feel like it would be so good to see you and catch up and just talk about the stress and all the different things you got to go through with kids and changing your life around over and over. Really miss you, though, and wish I would have reached out earlier. Just been so busy trying to be the best dad I can be. I don't have time for much, but trying to think about myself a little bit again. Or trying. Anyway, hope to hear from you. Just text me so it's easier to chat. I said to Justin, how funny would it be if he left me Kris Jenner's phone number? I call, she's like, hey, I've been wanting to talk to you. This is like classic manipulation. I miss you. Oh, Scott, you miss me after 17 years? No, that timing is not lost on me. That as I'm ripping on the Kardashians, calling them out for shit, now they want to send in Scott. This kind of goes back to the Britney Spears thing that I was talking about. You guys, this is Hollywood. This is Hollywood. When you're out there talking and they don't like that, this is what they do to try to silence you and control you. So. Oh, Scott, you're just reminiscing on the party days from 17 years ago. You miss me? You want to chat? Shut the fuck up. This is so insane. It's like, beyond me, you guys. So guess what? Fuck you, Scott. Fuck you, doucheyans. I don't fall for your bullshit. Okay? All right. Glad we cleared up that headline. 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And that was where you would get any sort of celebrity photos, info, the juice like it. And I remember I used to say to people, you know, these are weekly magazines that they have to fill every single week. If nothing's going on, they quite literally have to make shit up because they've got deadlines, they have a job to do, and they have advertisers spending money on them. And it's all about their sales, right? It's a game and it's. Now it's the same thing. It's just online and it's the clickbait and that's why it's such a game, because it's like the amount of money that they make is solely relied on how many clicks they have where at this time. And, you know, like the early 2000s, it was about how many issues, how many, you know, printed copies they were selling every week. And so the crazier the headline, you know, in the front of the, you know, the COVID of the magazine and everything, the more people are going to want to buy it. So anyways, that was challenging because the producers, one producer in particular of Laguna beach in the Hills, would fuel the tabloids with these fake storylines that we were doing on the Hills. But that was. And it. And it worked, you know, like. And listen, from a producer's perspective, I get it. Like, I would probably do the same thing, quite honestly, but it's obviously harder when it was my life and I was okay with it to a degree because I knew that what I was doing on the Hills wasn't real. I had a very separate life, and that was the only way I could sort of stay sane through it all was to, you know, hills is work. This is a job. And then, you know, my real friends, who I was really dating was off camera. But the one time it really went too far was when this headline came out. Wasted. Kristin Cavallari hunted for cocaine at Super Bowl, February 17, 2010. And then it says, but those close to the hard partying. Cavallari, 23, says that such antics have become more and more typical. Her issues are becoming apparent to everyone. An insider reveals she's getting scary thin and not showering regularly. She's clearly unhealthy. I will never forget when this came out and the fact that it said I wasn't showering. I mean, that gave me and everyone in my life a really good laugh. Like, a really good laugh. I've hit rock bottom. I don't even shower anymore. Like, it's just so aggressive. Okay, so here's what happened. Was I, in my party girl era, 1000%. I've never denied that I was a party girl. I never needed rehab. It was never out of control. I was never not showering either. And I was thin. Wasn't the thinnest I ever was. I can tell you that. I wasn't, like, scary thin by any means. And I wasn't thin because of cocaine. Let's just clarify that. I definitely did cocaine in my day, but it wasn't. I mean, I think I would say I had it under. Under control. It wasn't like, it took over my life. It was like, I did it recreationally. It was a party drug. It was, you know, I experimented. I had fun. It never took over my life. I think that's the best way I could put that. So I went to the super bowl in Miami, and I was going to Miami with my friends, and then MTV decided, oh, wait, we're going to come and we're going to film. And I was like, hang on a second. I'm flying myself here. I've already planned my trip, and now you guys want to fucking piggyback on this? I was pissed. I wanted to have a weekend of myself and go out and have fun and not worry about a camera in my face. And again, I had a very separate life. So that was. Now what was supposed to be a fun weekend for me turned into work, right? And I'm 23. Like, I'm not happy about it, but okay, I realize I have a job. And so. Okay, but. So I wasn't hunting for. I wasn't fucking dumb. I wasn't like, at a party, going up to anybody going, do you have any cocaine? Please, can I have some cocaine? Like, I knew where to get it, and I have to, like, hunt for it, right? So. But the issue was. So there was. It was the night of the actual Super Bowl. The whole cast and I are texting going, we don't want to film. Like, we all want to go out and have fun. So we're all like, fuck it. We're not going collectively as a group. We all said, we are not going to film. So I'm like, great. Woo. I go out all night. I'm having fun. La de da de da. Well, what happened was everyone slowly trickled back to the hotel, and the producers ended up having them film a scene. The girls, specifically the guys, always got away with fucking everything, by the way. It's always the girls. But. And I've talked about this before, so I'm sorry if you've heard it, but long story short, the producer of the Hills, Adam Develo, bribed the girls, Audrina and lo, with a Birkin bag. A Birkin bag, you know, is a very expensive purse. At the time, they were like, you know, the it bag. You could be any. Let's just say around $10,000. You know, they span up and down, depending on which type you're going to get. And Low took the bait. Low said, okay, I'll call Kristen out on camera for doing drugs for a Birkin bag, which she never got, because you have to get that shit in writing. And so they did. And then the next morning, they woke me up in my hotel room with a camera in my face. And I was obviously exhausted. I was out partying the night before. But it was also, like. It was just. It was so dirty to me. And, you know, I understand reality TV is like that now, but this is in 2010. I mean, this is a long time ago. Shows weren't dirty like that. And I just sort of sat there, oh, and lo, fuck low, man. She's like, it smells in here. Just really playing into it. And actually, what happened after that was we all went into MTV with my manager, my publicist, our lawyers, MTV's Lawyer was on the phone, and Audrina is the one who was like, no, Adam, you bribed us with a purse. Like, it all came out. Quite honestly, I probably could have sued mtv, but to me, it wasn't even worth it. But because of that, what the producers created, I then had to live that out in the tabloid world. So I was on the COVID of every fucking tabloid saying I needed to go to rehab. I had a cocaine problem and all this stuff. And at age 23, that was really hard. It was really hard. But, you know, I was partying. I'm not. I'm not trying to. I'm not blaming this on everybody else. Like, I definitely was doing things. I. I'm actually not going to say I was doing things I shouldn't have been doing, because I don't regret doing any of that. I don't regret partying. I really don't. I think for a long time, that situation had a lot of control over me, because I did blame Adam Develo for that. And it wasn't until a few years later that I was like, I have to get a new perspective on this for me. And it was. So I asked myself what I could have done differently, and it was. I could have shown up to film when I was supposed to. It's really that simple. And I didn't. And that's on me. And honestly, flipping the narrative for me on that is what then made me able to move on from it and let it go. And I didn't have that anger anymore. And so that's. I. I think in any situation, just taking a hard look in the mirror and really asking yourself what you could do differently or could have done differently is the only way to move on from some of these situations, because anger and blame, they don't do anything for you, and there's no growth in that. And I did I fucked up, you know, I did. And I'm someone who's very professional. I'm. I'm very responsible, and that was a huge fuck up for me. So anyways, but the not. I remember just being like, the not showering thing. I was like, this really now is taking it too far. That's what irked me out of everything. Okay, let's see. Let's move on to. Okay, here's one that was really annoying too. CAVALLARI Bears quarterback proposed to me in a text message. God, this used to drive me fucking crazy. Okay, so what happened was Jay and I got engaged after eight months. It was very fast. He proposed to me in Cabo. It was very romantic and sweet. It was all the things, right? And then we split up a few months later and I called it off. And so what happened was we were in LA and I gave him the ring back and he left. And I think I gave him the ring back because I called it off. I think, like, this is like such an interesting conversation with friends, is in an engagement, if you do split up, like, who gets to keep the ring? And I think if the guy breaks up with you, you keep the ring. He gave you that ring as a present. But I called it off. So I was like, why? I need to give it back. I'll give it back then, obviously, because, like, this is on me. So I gave him the ring back. Okay, so we split up. I went to Greece. I did Dancing with the Stars. Like, I did, like, all the things that I wanted to do that I maybe necessarily couldn't do or someone didn't want me to do them, and I went to Greece. And then I ended up missing Jay and I texted him. And then when I got home from Greece, I went to Chicago and I stayed with him for the weekend. We had a great weekend, and we slowly started getting back together. And I had said to him at one point, because I was then in LA doing Dancing with the Stars, so it was. I couldn't see him all the time. And he was playing football. And I just said to him at one point, just send me, like, let's. Let's do this right? Like, let's still be engaged and get married and everything. And I said. And I actually said, just send me the ring in the mail. This was so. This headline about him proposing to me in a text message. I actually don't know where that came from because I actually. What the headlines I remember were that he sent me the ring in the mail. Like, that's how he Proposed to me was like, sent me a ring in the mail. And I said, like, just send it to me, because I don't know when I'm going to see you next. And so. And I want to wear my ring. It was, like, really that simple. And the way that. That took off, what drove me crazy because everyone was like, oh, like, he proposed to her in a text message, sent her a ring in the mail. Like, he could give two shits. But that was all from me. I was the one who was like, no, just send it to me. Because he had already proposed. Like, we had already done all of the things. I broke up with him. Actually, that was the other thing. Everyone thought that he broke up with me. And that also pissed me off. I. I'm okay when things are true because I'm someone who. I'm just authentic. Like, if I did something or something happened to me, and those are the headlines, I'm like, okay, well, yeah, whatever, that's true. But when it's so not true, that's when I get so mad about stuff. So between everyone thinking that Jay broke up with me and then sending me my ring in the mail and proposing to me on a text message, I was like, oh, my fucking God, this couldn't be farther from the truth. So this whole era really pissed me off. And again, I just. This is also. Before I was on social media, I had no platform to say anything, and I wasn't going to talk about this in an interview. Like, I don't know. I just. That is the one good thing about social media and, like, this podcast, like I said at the beginning, is you can kind of take your narrative back and you can kind of say what you want to say. That's been really nice for me. And then. Okay, well, while we're on the subject of Jay, I'll talk about another one. So. So when Jay and I were together, I created an Instagram for him. He didn't at the time, he didn't want to be on it. And so I named it if Jay had Instagram. And I was like, this is what he would be posting if he had Instagram. You know, just. I thought it was funny. And right before we split up, yeah, right before we split up, he took back his Instagram. And at the time, so it was kind of a storyline on very cavallari. We talked about it. So everyone knew that I was running the Instagram. But then he took it over right before we split up. And Jay and I, for God, I don't even know a Year and a half or so when we first split up, we're like really trying to figure out, like, can we be friends? Can we co parent to get like. It was a tough thing to navigate, as anyone who's gone through a divorce can probably relate to if you have kids. But so on Mother's Day, so we split up in, well, I would say March. We announced it in April. I've told you guys this story. We went to spring on spring break for our kids, thinking it would be like the last hurrah. And as soon as we got home, we would figure out the living situation and everything. And then that's when Covid hit and we ended up getting stuck in the Bahamas for a month. Never slept together in the same bed. Like nothing. Like the whole time we were done, but came home and then so we got home in April and then that's. I think we announced it like middle of or end of April, but obviously like we had been done for longer than that. But anyways, my point is, so on Mother's Day, so that's May. So like a few weeks after we had announced our divorce, he posted a happy Mother's Day thing for me on his Instagram. And everyone thought I made that post to myself. So this headline says insta failure. Wait, did Kristin Cavallari secretly wish herself a happy Mother's Day on Jay Cutler's Instagram account? It's like, no, you fucking dipshits. I didn't wish myself a happy Mother's Day. Oh my God. In fact, when we were together, I never posted myself on his Instagram ever. And he was like, you should post this picture of you. And I was like, no, I would never do that. And then I get shit on for it. 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Upgrade your business and get the same checkout we use with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial period@shopify.com Cavallari and that's all lowercase. Go to shopify.com Cavallari to upgrade your selling today. Shopify.com Cavallari okay, well, we were just talking about Dancing with the Stars and I. I don't even remember this, to be honest with you. But again, so Rosie, my producer, sent me these, and this headline is Kristen Cavallari and Mark Ballas find themselves on the dance floor of hookups. I don't even remember anyone accusing us of hooking up. So this is actually kind of funny for me, but it says, with both of the young hotties freshly single, the rumors are flying all around town about them hooking up after practice. Kristen Cavallari and Mark Ballas share some insane chemistry on the dance floor. So it's no wonder why anyone would speculate when asked about it. The reality vet says she expects people to think they're dating. I kind of expect the dating rumors to be honest. But that's what happens when you put two people together. Well, yeah, no shit. There's always rumors about everyone hooking up on Dancing with the Stars. Mark and I never hooked up. It's just like I. The fact that I even feel like I need to defend myself. I'm like, we did. Not true. It wasn't true though. And in fact, I'm trying to think. I think Jay and I were like basically together the whole time. We were like trying to like work it out and figure it out. Jay was in the audience for, I think it was my third episode or something on Dancing with the Stars. And so no, Mark and I never hooked up. I adore Mark Ballas and I will say, like the Dancing with the Stars crew. You know, you do become a family or very tight knit group because you do spend so many hours together. And we would go out too. And no, I never. I don't even remember anyone from my season hooking up to. I don't think. I don't remember anyone hooking up. So that was not true. But that's funny because I didn't even remember. I don't even remember that one. Okay, here's another one that's really annoying. This one's more recent. And you know, listen, I am not going to do the most recent ones just because I've told you guys, I just. If I want something to like go away, if I don't want someone's name associated with mine anymore, I try to just like, you know what I mean? But okay, so this one is. Kristin Cavallari reveals why she threw out a necklace her best friend gifted her daughter. A little crazy. Okay, so there was a TikTok trend about like, tell me a time you did something really crazy like, I can't. Oh, no, wait. Maybe we sort of tried to make this a trend at Uncommon James. Maybe it didn't actually become a trend. We were just trying. This is what it was, okay? When our fragrance Hard Feelings came out, this is what it was. The my marketing team wanted to do like a kind of like kitschy, fun trend. And it was like, tell me a time, you know, you did something that made you have hard feelings or something. And I couldn't fucking think of anything. But someone did gift my daughter a Kendra Scott necklace. 2 actually, it was not my best friend or an ex best friend. It was someone closer to me than that. As A big old fuck you to me. And so I said that I said something, you know, when someone gifted a competitors necklace to my daughter, which that part was true. I would never throw out my daughter's necklace, ever. I'm not that fucking crazy. But I said that this is my own fault. I said it in the TikTok because I was like, we're like, I'm like talking to the marketing team. I'm like, and then I did what? Because it was like, say the hard feeling that you had and then what you did. I'm like, I didn't. I literally did nothing about it. In fact, I was like, oh my God, it's so cute. I love it. Like, okay, but for the plot, you know, I had to say something and I said, I threw it out. I fucking knew. I knew I shouldn't have said that. That's on me. It's like, after all these years, I gotta just listen to my gut feeling on this stuff. But I fucking said I threw it away. And people lost their minds. And to be fair, I guess rightfully so. But it wasn't true. It's like, I think for me, TikTok is fun. It's not that serious. And the people who take everything so literal, I'm like, you need to fucking calm down. Like, anytime I do a voiceover, everyone's like, oh, she's talking about so and so. It's like, no, I'm actually not talking about anybody. I'm just doing a trend and I'm doing a voiceover. Like, it's not that deep. But people take everything so seriously. But it's funny that everyone said that it was my best friend. I'm like, what? People just make shit up. They just make shit up. So my best friend didn't give Gift Sailor a competitor's necklace. I didn't actually throw it away. Sailor has a few pieces of jewelry from a competitor. And I don't say shit. I tell her how cute they are. You know what the other thing is too? You know, sarcasm and joking around, having fun in an interview does not translate in text, you know, and so like if, let's say I went on a podcast or. Well, we can use my podcast as an example. Even my podcast, hearing the way I say something and putting inflection on different things, hearing my tone, joking around is one thing, but then when you. Or like when these, you know, weeklies take it and transcribe it and it's now just in text, it reads very different a lot of times. And so I actually have this theory that, you know, because a lot of celebrities, when you meet them, it's almost like. It almost makes you feel crazy in a lot of ways. Because a lot of celebrities are. It's almost like delayed almost when you're having a conversation with them. It's like they're so uptight, guarded, careful about what they're going to say. Like, delayed in what they say, really thinking carefully about how they're going to deliver what they're going to say. It's like, it's a very interesting thing. And I remember being, you know, 18 and being thrown in the celebrity world and experiencing that and being like, this is so weird. Like, I don't like having these conversations with people because I'm very like, hey, how are you? In your face. I say dumb shit all the time. I'm like, I don't think about stuff. But I can see why they are like that. Because it's happened to me a thousand times where your words get taken out of context. Sarcasm doesn't translate. Like, it just. If you're like a lighthearted, bubbly, you know, like, joking kind of person like that, it just. It's horrible in text. And so I totally can empathize with people wanting to really make sure how they deliver something is gonna come across accurately in text, but just on, like, a human level. It's a weird. It's a weird thing. And I've always said, I hope I never get like that, where you're just. It's almost robotic in a lot of ways. And that's probably why I get so many dumb fucking headlines written about me. Because I don't. I don't want to say I don't care. I just. I'm more concerned about being a normal human being than being a robot, quite honestly. But that's why the headlines that I do see about me, I'm like, if I only saw headlines and didn't know the context or anything, I would hate me. I totally get why some people on the Internet fucking hate me. Like, I'm annoying as shit, too. I think I'm annoying in the headline world of it all. So I get it. Okay. Anyways, back to staying the course. Okay. Kristen Cavallari's worst advice from producers was make out with the gay bartender on the Hills. I don't remember saying it was the worst advice. I think I was just like, the fuck? So we did a Costa Rica trip. Maybe it was the end of my first season of the Hills. Yeah. Because it must have been, because the producers there was A really cute bartender. I actually didn't know he was gay. And the producers kept saying, well, this is the shit they would do all the time. Kristen, you should make out with the bartender. Were trying to get picked up for a second season and I'm a team player, so I'm like, yeah, you're right. We need another season. Absolutely. So I did. I kissed him and then afterwards found out he was gay. I was like, sweet, cool, Yay. Woo. That's fun. But I don't. That wasn't something I was like, butthurt about. I didn't think that was, like, the worst advice. I was like, I truly. When I joined the Hills, I was like, I'm a team player. I'm down. What do you guys want me to do? Like, loop me in on the conversations rather than trying to just manipulate me because you guys are going to get what you want anyways. I would rather just make it fun for me and be on the same page. So it just made it a lot more fun. Okay. And then let's end with this little nugget. So my first boyfriend in LA when I was 18 was Brody Jenner. And then Brody and I broke up and I dated Nick Lachey. And this was a wild time in my life because I was overnight on the COVID of every tabloid. I had so many paparazzi following my every move, waiting outside of my house. It like. And that was the first time I had experienced that being 18. Maybe I was 19, but whatever. It was 18, 19. And it was. Whoa. It was wild. It was a lot. And he had just, you know, gotten a divorce from Jessica Simpson. So this was like the biggest thing in 2000 and must have been like 2006. And it was a wild ride. And I remember the tabloids would like, compare me to Jessica Simpson and say I was stealing her red carpet poses. I'm like, stealing her red carpet poses. There's like four fucking poses you can do on a red carpet. Like, what are my hand on my hip? You think I'm stealing her poses? Like, what? And this was when I. I really started to kind of like, lose trust in some people. And there was a picture here. I can. I'll show it to you guys for the people watching. By the way, you can watch all of these episodes on YouTube, you guys. I get asked that a lot on Instagram where you can watch it. There's always a video. It is always on YouTube. So I was out one night with my friend Kendall and Nick was there and we were all sitting together. We were at a club, and we were all sitting together, but Kendall acted like she was taking a photo of just me and her, right? And Nick is in it next to me, but, like, he's not looking at the camera because everyone thought it was a picture of me and Kendall, but Nick is actually in it a little bit. And if I can find this fucking photo on my phone, I'm going to show it to you guys. Okay? Here it is. So my friend Kendall sold this picture for $2,500, and it's not even a good picture. So it was a picture of Kendall, and I cut Kendall out of the photo. So it looks like it's just a picture of Nick and I, but you can tell, like, it's. It's an awful photo. In fact, it doesn't even look like we're really together. It looks like they took two pictures of us and put them next to each other. Because I'm, like, leaning away from him because I'm, like, taking a photo drinking a cranberry vodka. Like, girl, that just shows you how young I was. You're gonna feel like tomorrow drinking all that sugar. Ew. Cranberry vodka. And Nick is, like, sitting here, not even, like, looking or paying attention because no one thought we were taking a picture together. But that was so fucked up. And she blamed it on her brother. She's like, my brother stole it off of my computer. Bullshit. But you know, the tabloid world. This is what they do. They pay people. So it gives them an incentive to do this. It's a gross world. Raider Online paid my stepbrother years ago to talk. I mean, it's just. It's gross. It's gross. And that was kind of like the first real sense of betrayal that I felt of, like, oh, wow, I'm not even safe with my people, I think are my friends. That is also la to a degree, I would say it's hard to meet really good, genuine people. But that was, like, my introduction to just shadiness and. But okay, I'm. I don't care. I'm over it now. But this is funny because in this, it basically is saying, like, nick's week of Women. Like, Nick's a bachelor now, and there's, like, you know, so much going on with Nick and blah, blah, blah. But, like, we had been seen together a bunch. And then it says Kristen's week of Men. And it's a picture of my friend Pascal, who I was at the Laker game with, but with a group of people. Thank you very much. And then this is so dumb. On March 22, Cavallari primped outside LA club LAX and was later spotted with a mystery guy. Oh, a mystery guy. Okay, got it. And then it says, ex Jenner with Cavallari in January. Slept over at her house as recently as March 20. Says a source. Shut up. Like, people just literally make stuff up. My week of men. This is. This one say a mystery guy. You guys are pulling shit out of your ass. Also, there's no fact checking here. I remember seeing articles of. I'll just. I'll say who it was. I remember. So Lindsay Lohan and I, when I was like 18, 19, used to be at the same management company. And I remember seeing a photo of her with the main manager at this company saying, lindsey's new man, blah, blah, blah. He was her gay manager. So. Which is interesting because you would think Hollywood, like these people would do their fact checking, but they wouldn't. It's. I want to say they've gotten better about all of this stuff because again, I mean, this was like, you know, 19ish years ago. But that's just. That's the game they used to play. And so that. Yeah, that was a wild time. A time to be alive, you guys. So that's just some of the tea over the years. And maybe in a year or so I'll do headlines from what's going on currently right now. It's just too soon. It's too soon. But I hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving. I hope you are with loved ones. I'm thankful for a lot this year. I mean, every year I am. But you know, health is always at the forefront for me, especially having three kids. Like, everyone's healthy. And I just think without health, nothing else matters. You have nothing. And I'm just, you know, I'm really thankful for that this year. So I hope everyone stays safe and is also healthy and is with the ones that you love. And I will see you guys soon in December. What the fuck? How is it already? December. Okay, you guys, I'll talk to you soon. Bye. I got all the power. Yeah.