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The following podcast is a Dr. Media production. This is, let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Cause I got all the power. Yep. Okay, guys, how we doing? Welcome in. We have another, Honestly Cavaliere recap. This is for episode three. This is the second show in Chicago, Harry Josie's live show, and of course, this is the Johnny Drama. So this episode starts with me coming off stage from the first show in Chicago, which was, of course, with the Laguna crew. And they teased it last week, but they. I come off and I go, holy, that was awful. Or whatever. I said something to that effect. And then I'm talking about how bad the show was. And here's what I learned about myself doing the podcast tour and having it documented is I'm very, very hard on myself. I think I came off of every show and thought that was awful. That was horrible. I think the only show where I was pretty jacked up and felt really good about it was Austin and Craig. And then there was a lot of drama for other reasons, so which you'll see. But I never felt like I knocked it out of the park. I never felt like it was a good show. And so that is not necessarily a knock on the Laguna cast because I actually went and listened, Obviously. I've listened to all of the podcast episodes now, and the Laguna episode is one of my favorites. And I laughed my ass off listening to it. And I'm excited for you guys to listen to the podcast episode because we talked about this last week. But they take what was, let's say it was an hour live show, and for the TV show, they have to boil it down to, like, a minute, if that. So there's no way to just capture all of it. And the girls, especially Alex Morrell, gave so many great little nuggets, and there were so many great stories, and it was hilarious. And I actually thought Talon was hilarious, too, so. And again, I just want to remind you guys. So when I came off stage, I knew I was really pushed for time. And so while I was out there, I was stressed out and on edge because I knew I had to get to this other show. And I am always prompt, I am always on time. And I will say every show on the live tour started late, not because of me. And now I have a newfound respect for musicians. When I'm at a concert and I'm like, why the hell can they never start on time? It's not up to them. They're probably ready backstage. My tour manager made me wait until the audience was full. So that was not on me. I was always ready to go at 7 o' clock sharp or 7:30 or whatever it was. So I hate being late. I'm stressed out because I know Laguna has gone over a lot. And obviously being on stage with Laguna, it did feel chaotic because, you know, the night before my first show with Kim, it was very. But just boom, boom, boom. You know, I'm asking all my questions, she's answering. It's just like onto the next. And Laguna felt like the train had been derailed. I'm, you know, trying to chase and catch up. I don't know now which way we're going, which is very entertaining, but that's just where I was at. And again, this is my first live podcast tour. I've never done this before, so I'm very hard on myself. Anyways, I realized I'm kind of more sensitive than I thought, so. Well, yes, that is my very real reaction coming off stage. They also, my reactions to Talon during the show were very much amped up. I mean, and you'll hear it in the podcast episode, you know, him saying the Montana Boys. I wasn't like, oh my God, like, I think I probably laughed. It was not that reaction. So keep in mind it is still a TV show. Anyways, so then I change, I go to my meet and greet. I'm so happy and excited that I have Harry coming on this next episode because Harry is someone who I just absolutely adore. I mean, you can see how much I truly do connect with him and how much I care about him and vice versa. And they show my mom, which shout out, my mom, she is so freaking cute. And my mom did not want to film. My mom hates this stuff, but she did it for me and I really appreciate it because while it's very quick, last episode and this episode, she is so cute. And her little moment, it was last week, but when fans were taking pictures with my mom because they found out she was my mom, I just think is the cutest moment with her. My mom is so cute. So anyways, shout out Jude. And then we get in, you know, we're starting to set the groundwork that Johnny is coming out. Johnny is of course, my 8th grade boyfriend, my very first boyfriend in Barrington, Illinois, where I lived with my mom throughout middle school and I actually started high school in Barrington. It wasn't until October of my Freshman year of high school that I moved to Laguna. So anyways, I dated Johnny all throughout eighth grade. And then I don't know exactly when we broke up. I mean, I know that we went to the eighth grade dance together, so we were very much together at the end of eighth grade. I'm assuming we broke up. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the very beginning of freshman year. I'm really not. I'm not sure on the timeline of that. But, you know, the thing with Johnny is. So Johnny had reached out to me because he saw that I was coming to Chicago for my podcast tour, and he told me that he wanted to come. So I got him tickets, you know, him and a few friends, and he was already coming. So I decided it would be really fun to be able to pull you up on stage. I asked him if he was cool with that. We decided yes. So. So the few weeks leading up to the tour, Johnny and I really played a good game of catch up. We were on multiple phone calls. There was one time we were on the phone for, I think, about an hour. And we really felt like we really were connecting. We had formed this friendship again after so many years. And granted, we kept in touch after I moved. I mean, I would go back to Barrington to visit my mom and we would see each other. But I think, you know, during my marriage, I definitely didn't talk to him. And then afterwards. So it had been at least 15 years, let's say so, since I have spoken to Johnny. But it was really nice catching up with him. It was like no time had passed. It was sweet. You know, we laughed about the old times. We caught up on being parents. He's, you know, a dad. Obviously. I've got kids. He's going through a divorce right now. I've been through a divorce. Like, we had a lot in common. We had a lot to catch up on. He was still living in Chicago, and there was just a lot there. And it felt really nice to be able to connect with him again. And he was nervous about doing this, which I said it on the show. I'll say it again. I'll say it 500 freaking times. I really understand that. I have a lot of empathy for Johnny, for the cast of Laguna, for the people who do not do this stuff, for being able to get up on stage and do this in front of a thousand people and cameras, because I was nervous and I do this stuff. I don't know if someone had asked me to come up on stage and I didn't do this stuff, I probably. I would shit my pants. Like, I really can understand why. Why these people are so nervous. I get that. With that being said, because Johnny was so nervous and I really was trying to set him up for success. So he asked me what I was going to talk to him about, and I quite literally ran through the outline at this point. I had all of my questions, all of my shows were locked in. I told him every single question. I even told him I was going to give him a hard time about Laney. I'm going to give you shit for it. I'm going to say, you're the reason that I'm. I was the heartbreaker. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Johnny knew every little thing that was going to come out of my mouth for weeks. So he had. He was able to sit on that for weeks. Okay, okay. So I thought this was so interesting in the meet and greet that I'm doing, someone who was at the Laguna show says to me, oh, like, she was so bummed that Talon was married because what a great couple we would be. And it was kind of like, what? Like, I was so thrown off and so confused by that. But you wonder what's even funnier about this. So I'm in LA right now. I'm doing press. And yesterday I did a ton of interviews with, you know, Access Hollywood and Extra and E. News and all the things. And someone from E. Actually, in one of the millions of interviews I did yesterday, was asking me about different guys that I have dated. And then she brought up talent. She was like, what about talent? And I was like, he's married with kids. Like, I'm so confused. I. As to what's happening in the talent department, especially after what happened on the show. I. I don't understand what's happening. So talent and I. It's not even on the table. I'm so confused. Anyways, okay, so the second show. Here we go. And by the way, the audience in Chicago, both shows was phenomenal. Chicago, always. Anytime I've done anything in Chicago, a book signing, a store opening. I did an appearance at Nordstrom one time. Like, my show, like, Chicago turns out, and I fucking love you guys, and I will forever be grateful to you guys and be so appreciative of you because you guys always make me feel so amazing. So, Chicago, I fucking love you. Also, I'm throwing out the first pitch of the Cubs game. July, I think it's 19th. 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I can't say enough good stuff about Harry. And people in my life, like people that I know have been texting me asking if I did hook up with Harry, because everyone feels like I either did or if I didn't, I should, I've had so many people in my life be like, you should date Harry. Harry does not check my boxes. In all the interviews I've been doing, everyone's like, what are you looking for? And I've been saying, I want someone older, I want someone with K, are non negotiables for me anymore. I would like someone who is not in the public eye. Harry, unfortunately does not check those boxes. Well, yes, I love Harry. And while, yes, I'm a massive fucking flirt, this is not news to anybody. This is actually not going anywhere. I just want to throw that out there. So in the show, Harry and I are talking about how he is trying to become husband material. And I love Harry because he talks about how he's an avoidant and how he essentially self sabotages when he likes a woman because if he starts liking a girl, he's realized he will then go and fuck it up by texting other girls so that he in the past would not get hurt. But then he says on the show, he actually understands that it's nice to get hurt because you know, that's where the growth is. And you know, this is the kind of man that we all love because we need a guy who has self awareness and who is not afraid to get hurt because he is willing and able and wanting to grow. And I, I love that about Harry. This is why I love Harry. We talk about the dick pic debacle you will have to listen to the whole podcast episode if you want to get the full story on that. We don't have the time here to talk about it. And I am talking. So he throws it back on me about who I've been getting dicked down by. I believe were his words at the time. I hadn't been. I'm. I still haven't been. So that holds true. I say that I've sworn off men, women, which was true. Leading up to my tour, I decided, no distractions, I'm not gonna date. Which was like, what, two and a half months? But still, I meant it and I did it. And then I think it was the week before tour, or maybe two weeks before tour. I got back on Raya, unintentionally. I talked about it on another podcast. I'm not gonna talk about how I got back on Raya, but I actually didn't even, like, plan on getting on Raya. I just want to see if my account was still active. So I ended up back on Raya and then. Which I guess was good timing for the show because I was talking to a couple people, and then Raya is fun for two weeks. So actually, the very end of tour, I just completely stopped talking to one of the guys I was talking to. I ghosted him, which I'm not proud of. I'm not. I don't like doing that. I've only actually ghosted maybe two or three people in the last five and a half years, because no one ghosted back in the day, by the way. Like in my late teens, early 20s. That wasn't a thing. It's become a thing. And I always feel bad when I do it, but I just was like, this guy is not my future husband. I'm just gonna, you know, slowly let myself out. And I am still on Raya, but I don't swipe through anymore. The only time I ever will go on is if I get a direct message and I see who it is, and I have not responded to one, so that'll just. That just can let you know with where I'm at. I've maintained no real dating. Like, I haven't been out to dinner on a date. I've of course, been around men in the last few months, but I would say I haven't dated. So that's where we're at. So, okay, now we get into the Johnny of it all. I have seen this third episode probably four or five times, and I just watched it right before I came here to film this and every time I've watched it, it's hard for me to watch the Johnny portion. It just is. And so here's my whole take on Johnny. So, like I said, I really thought I was setting him up for success. I felt as though I was giving him a slam dunk to come out on stage and take the title of being the most amazing, caring, sweet boyfriend. And, you know, because that was my experience with him, that was true. That was my takeaway. And how I have looked at him all of these years later and is there a world in which he probably corrupted me as well? Absolutely. But both can be true. We were very much in love. It was very sweet for, especially for being 14 years old. That was all very real. And again, that just sort of also plays into why I was so let down and so right out of the gate, you know, I asked Johnny if he would say that we were in love again. He knows I'm asking him this question. He knows it's the first question he's known for weeks. And instead of coming up with an answer or even just being like yes or no, he decides to throw it back on me and ask me what I say. So immediately I'm kind of like, okay, a little thrown off. And I say, well, you know, I think for being as much in love as you can BE at age 14, I would say very much so. And then it's like he goes immediately into, well, how he used to sneak into my room and immediately starts to just cut it all down to being solely about sex. And he even says I would greet him in outfits like the one I'm wearing. And I was wearing a, like little black shorts, a black bra and this see through shirt over it. And it's just like, you know, and I'm, I'm so, I'm so thrown off. I'm really let down. And I'm. I'm shocked, quite honestly. And so, And I'm still, you can see, I'm like, okay, yes, that is true. That, yeah, Johnny, we had sex. I've never said that we didn't. Like, you took my virginity. We took each other's virginity, actually. But also I would wake up to poems on my window and I love you and the sweetest, most romantic, some of the sweeter and more romantic things that guys have done for me in my whole life. And he kept just knocking it down to being about sex, I think, because obviously, because I know myself so well on stage, I can tell I'm visibly upset. But what I do is then I try to overcompensate and act like, I really don't care, but I think you can still kind of tell. And I keep being like, yes, but this is also true. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really understand the logic of. Well, I do, actually. I understand why he did that, and we can get to that. So I sort of think what happens is, like, even with the question of, do you think that we were in love? I think what happens is these guys, and we're going to use Johnny in particular, and I think there's a touch of talent in here, too. But it's almost like Johnny's insecure about what I'm going to say, and he feels like I might say, or. Or like, if he says, yeah, I think we were in love, that I'm going to be like, are you serious? You really thought we were in love? And, like, make fun of him for it. So instead of just being like, yes, it's almost like these guys feel like they have to beat me to it. Which is also crazy to me because. And granted, it's been so many years, but Johnny and I had been talking for weeks leading up to it. I feel like, you know me. He even said to me at one point, it's so nice to see that you haven't changed and lost yourself in this whole world and blah, blah, blah. So I would think that you kind of know me, that I'm actually not that big of an asshole. And I think there is this misconception with. I think a lot of people do think I'm an asshole. Like that. Like, he would get on stage and I'd be like, huh, you're an idiot. I was never in love with you. I would never, ever do that. Ever fucking do that. Kind of as with the podcast, too, I feel like people sometimes come on my podcast feeling like I'm gonna grill them and I'm gonna go in hard. I've never done that. If you guys really do listen to the podcast, you know that I've never done that. The only person I kind of went after was Craig. And you guys will see it because I had a reason to, but I actually could have been way harder than I was, so. So I just think it's interesting when guys think I'm going to be like that. I'm like, I'm actually not like that at all. I'm not trying to get a have a gotcha moment with Johnny. Like, I'm just trying to be like, this was my really sweet boyfriend I've talked about him a couple times on the podcast. Like, it's actually not that deep. I'm just trying to let the audience into this little portion of my life that was pre being on tv. So I also told Johnny, of course, that, like I said, I was going to bring up Lainey. And so what happened in my head on stage is he immediately is cutting everything down to just be about sex. So now I'm actually. I'm hurt. I'm hurt. And when I told him on the phone that I was going to, like, joke around and give him a hard time about Laney and how I was the heartbreaker, well, now I'm fucking pissed. So I went in harder than I had anticipated, and I was like, you're the reason I was the heartbreaker, because I'm. Now I'm fucking mad at Johnny. And he says that I sampled Barrington. Barrington, again is where I lived. Guys, here's what I can tell you. And I think you know by now I am not one to hide anything. I, like, I don't shy away from being pretty real about my past and what I've done and all the. I'm not even proud of. When I moved to Laguna Beach, I had only hooked up with Johnny. And that's why. And I'm on stage and I'm going. And he. And he's like, well, you hooked up with my best friend. I'm like, who? So say a name, because this isn't true. And, you know, this is a few months ago. I've sat on this for months now, okay? And I. I know I did not hook up with anybody before I moved to Laguna beach, because I remember the first guy that I hooked up with in Laguna, a guy named Chris. And it was a big deal for me because Johnny was the only person that I hooked up with. Like, I'll. Girls, don't forget those things. So then, you know. So, yeah, so then he says, I hooked up with his best friend. I'm like, who? Tommy? Okay, I don't know a Tommy. Johnny and I had the same group of friends for years. I could sit here and list all of our friends, okay? First names and last names, and Tommy's your best friend, and you and I dated for a year, but I have no recollection of who a Tommy is. I'm sorry. No. Here's what I can think of, okay? Years later, years later, when I went back to visit my mom, we all, a group of us, went on a boat one day, and I'm pretty sure there was A guy named Tommy there then not a hundred percent sure on that, but this is the only thing I can maybe gather. And we got hammered as we used to do all the time in high school. And I kissed Tommy back at the house afterwards and that was that. But this is when I. This is years later. This is. I was well into high school, so the timing on that is not accurate. Johnny just throwing that out there, you know. The other thing is too, we're talking about when we were kids at 14 years old, I mean that's Camden. My oldest will be 14 in just over a year. And you know, you're, you're so young. I clearly lost my virginity at a very young age. And that was, you know, he, the other thing is too, he knows what I was going through in my life at that point time. And to try to like sexualize it and essentially call me a whore is wild to me. And I mean he's a dad, you know. And I don't know, I just felt like it was. Even if it was true, because the thing is, it's not true, but even if it was true, it's so wildly inappropriate just talking about, you know, the, the age that we were at. We're not talking about when I was 25 and adult and you know, kind of had my shit together, that's debatable. But I was a 14 year old little girl. And my other thing is it just felt clearly so premeditated, like he had an agenda to come out on stage and just tear me down. Because he had weeks to sit on this, come up with his answers. And he told me later, I don't know if it was. It must, I think it was that night actually. So after the two shows, we actually went out to a bar, we went out to this bar and everybody, I mean Harry was there, a lot of my friends that you didn't actually see. The Laguna crew. Johnny fucking came. Even though I didn't want him to. And maybe that night he told me, no, it was his friend. Oh my God, it was his friend. His friend, that's a girl told me that no one ever believed Johnny about me. So for 20 plus years, how, I don't even know how 20, whatever years if Johnny would say, like, oh well, Kristen Cavalieri, you know, I took her virginity. No one believed him. So to me it felt like he had all this anger built up after all of these years that I had nothing to do with and he was taking it all out on me on stage. And Johnny and I did talk after the tour. I couldn't deal with that while I was on tour. But when I finally got home, I had a minute to kind of think about everything because he had texted me. So I finally did reach out and I was like, hey, I was upset. I am upset. You know, and I'm not going to put what he said on blast because again, I respect that he was and is a private person and he didn't really, you know, want any of this. Besides the fact that he agreed to come up on stage and then did what he did. 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I want to be careful about airing out Johnny's dirty laundry, but some of the stuff he did say as an excuse was, oh, well, you know, e Entertainment. Meaning, like, he felt like he had to bring the drama and bring this entertainment, which is not your role. Like, again, Johnny, you don't do this stuff. So actually, you don't need to worry about that. You don't need to worry about bringing the drama. You're the sweet ex boyfriend. Just be yourself. And I think he was probably also intimidated by Harry because he also said something about the conversation that Harry and I were having before he came up. And I think he just got so much in his head that it just went awry. And so essentially he was saying, because I'm going through shit in my life, I get a pass to treat you like shit. And I don't play that game. And I'm just at a point in my life where, and I've said it a million times, if you can't take some sort of accountability, I don't need you in my life. And by the way, now I'm on stage apologizing for something that I don't even know if I did because that's where I'm at. And by the way, both things can be true. Let's say I did hook up with Tommy before I moved to Laguna. And this whole story is accurate. Both things can be true. I could have broke your heart and you could have actually also broken mine, too. Both things can be true in a perfect world. I apologized on stage. He should have been like, thank you. And also, if I did break your heart, I am sorry for that as well. I never got an apology. I never got jacked. Shit. All I did was get torn down. And, you know, here's the thing. I talk a lot about my experience with men on the podcast and everything. And I want you guys to know I actually don't blame Johnny. I don't blame any guy that I've ever dated for anything. I blame myself. And so this whole, this tour. Well, no, the whole fucking tour. Actually, I was gonna say Chicago, but no, it carried over until later in the tour, which you guys will see. But this tour was really therapeutic for me in a lot of ways, which I did not expect because what it did was it made me realize the type of man that I've allowed into my life for years. And clearly it started way earlier than I thought. I for all these years thought Johnny was a great guy and Steven was a great guy. And it really kind of started like after I graduated high school and whatnot. But no, clearly it started very. Oh, just a lot earlier than I had remembered. And that's on me. Because listen, Johnny's gonna be Johnny. You know, all of the. Every ex boyfriend is just being themselves. I was the one who had zero fucking self love that allowed the behavior that I allowed. And I do. Johnny is. It's an interesting one because again, I mean, there were very sweet moments, like very, very sweet moments. And after the tour I was pissed, obviously, and I was like, he just ruined everything that we ever had. And I got home and I had a minute to breathe. And then I decided, actually, no, his behavior on stage doesn't ruin what we had. Because I was there in eighth grade when I was 14. I lived it, I experienced it. And he can't take that away, actually. And with whatever he's going through personally, he can't ruin that for me. What we had was special. I know that. And I actually still hold our relationship in a high regard. What happened most recently is really shitty and it really does break my heart. But I still look at our relationship when we were 13, 14 as amazing. So I'm not gonna let him take that from me. But any kind of. To go off of what I was just saying, I think it was good for me to have these moments on tour to. For a few reasons. One is because now I recognize this type of personality so quickly, so quickly and I'll never do it again. And two, it showed me how far I've come. And three, it was just. God, I don't. It was. I don't know, I think. I think that the hard things that we go through just really do make us stronger. And I think it was more just. It really is cementing that I've done the work and thank God I've done the work so that now I do see this type of behavior immediately. I mean, that's my takeaway from it. And because, you know, the funny thing too about Johnny was leading up to the show. He was such a great guy. You know, the show happened. I was like, what the fuck? Immediately after we all went to this bar, like I said, he came up and gave me the biggest kiss on the cheek. I wish they used this. God, I wish they used this in the show. He came up and gave me the biggest kiss on the cheek. And I was like, I was so mad and acted like that was great and like, how fun was that? And like, oh, buddies, yay. And I was just sitting there like, because. And you have to remember, Talon and Johnny happened back to. Back in the same night. So I was like, my world was rocked and I was fucking exhausted emotionally and physically. And we had to go to the. We didn't. I guess I don't wanna say we had to go this bar, but I think because I'm filming a TV show, I felt like I should. If I wasn't filming a show, I would have been like, no, I'm fucking wrecked. I'm going to bed. But I had a lot of friends there. And the castle of Laguna and Harry and, you know, Justin and Biggs and everybody. And so I was like, okay, I guess I'll go. And I did not want to be there. But so then the next day they have Justin, Char and I and Beaks going to get IVs and in the car ride over, we're talking about now a new dick pic with Harry and how I sent him a lingerie photo. Oh, this is actually really funny. I sent Harry this episode a couple days ago just so he could see it before it aired. And in the episode I talk about the lingerie photo that I sent him and how I've sent it to multiple people. And so Harry, after he saw the episode was like, I knew there was a story. I knew there was a story with this lingerie photo. Like, he knew it just wasn't for him, which he wasn't wrong. And then I got another dick pic and now I'm showing everybody and everyone's going, oh my God, Harry. So then this conversation, of course, runs into the Johnny and Talon of it all. Because Harry is such a good guy and I don't know, there's just a huge difference for me between Harry and the other two. And so then we start talking about Johnny and Talon. And I'm. I'm upset because it, it's throwing, you know, all of my issues with men in my face. And again, I've done the work, I've. I've gotten to the other side, but it just, it's Just bringing it all up. And even my dad, because my dad always shit on everything in my life. Nothing was ever good enough, you know, but, you know, my dad would love to boast about me when I did him a favor, you know, when it looked good for him. But when it was just about me, he could never give me any credit, which is kind of how I felt with these other guys too. So I started crying a little bit, which, you know, listen, I was like, if I'm gonna do the show, I'm gonna put it all out there. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it. And I'm so happy that Justin and Char are there. So these obviously are two of my longest friendships. I've known Justin and char for 20 years. I met them both when I was 18. And they're just. They're my support system. And Bigs, of course, too, but she's not here yet. When I'm crying and they're hugging me and they're just, you know, it's just nice having my support team with me. I can't imagine doing this tour without them along the way because it was obviously way more personal and brought up a lot from my past. Way more than I ever realized. And I never had anticipated any of this coming up on tour, so. And really the gist of it that I'm realizing is that no guy has taken accountability for anything in my life. That has always been true, which I say on camera. And again, I'm not. I'm not blaming these guys. This was on me for allowing these men into my life. So that. That's. That. So that's the whole show. Jam packed. Holy shit. And I don't know, it's wild. On one hand, I'm like, you know, it was a lot to go through on tour. It was emotional as fuck. And it was just. It was a lot. But I'm also like. But it made for a great TV show because it's all very real. It's very real and it was jam packed. So that's episode three. Next week we are off to Boston and Camille Kostic is the guest next week, who I love. We FaceTime Gronk at one point. So Gronk makes a little appearance and then it's Craig and Austin. So buckle up because that's gonna be a good one. So I'll see you guys in. 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