ICYMI: Laguna Beach High School Reunion

Summary

Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari: ICYMI – Laguna Beach High School Reunion

In this engaging episode of "Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari," host Kristin Cavallari reconnects with her longtime friends Jessica, Huzy, and Alex to reminisce about their shared past and discuss their upcoming 20-year high school reunion. Taped nearly a year prior to its release on February 25, 2025, the episode offers a heartfelt look into their time on the reality TV show "Laguna Beach Girlies" and the enduring bonds formed over two decades.

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1. Introduction and Reunion Overview

Kristin Cavallari kicks off the episode by welcoming her friends to a special rerun of season two of "Laguna Beach Girlies." She shares the excitement of having Jessica, Huzy, and Alex over for a nostalgic trip down memory lane in Nashville. At [00:23], Kristin enthuses, "Today is the season two of Laguna Beach Girlies. They are in Nashville with me."

2. Highlights from Their Nashville Weekend

The friends recount their adventurous weekend in Nashville, highlighting their exploration of Broadway and the vibrant nightlife. Alex fondly remembers, "I think Broadway... that's how you do Nashville." Jessica adds, "It was so much fun." Their shared experiences underscore the strong bond they've maintained since their high school days.

3. Reflections on the "Laguna Beach Girlies" Show

Delving into their reality TV past, the group discusses both the enjoyable and cringe-worthy moments from their time on the show. Huzy candidly reflects at [04:43], "Cringe... No, I mean it was fun."

They reminisce about the unique dynamics of filming in a wealthy, hippie community, where parental supervision was lax, allowing for unforgettable teenage adventures. Kristin observes, "We grew up quickly... parental tolerance was high."

4. The Impact of Reality TV Editing and Manipulation

A significant portion of the discussion centers on how the show's editing influenced their real-life relationships and portrayals. Kristin expresses frustration at [17:01], "They can just, like, say random to you to get a reaction out of you." This manipulation often led to misrepresentations and misunderstandings among friends.

Jessica shares her struggle with how the show depicted her relationships, stating, "I feel like our storyline with Jason really did me dirty." The friends acknowledge that while their on-screen personas sometimes clashed, their off-camera friendships remained strong.

5. Navigating Friendships and Relationships Post-Reality TV

Despite the challenges posed by the show's editing, the friends emphasize the resilience of their relationships. Huzy reflects at [43:40], "It was a little bit of a trauma bond, but now that hindsight's 20/20, I would do it all over again just for the relationship that we all have."

Kristin adds, "That should be illegal... We were children, and it was really difficult." This sentiment underscores the complexity of maintaining genuine friendships amidst the pressures of reality television.

6. Planning the 20-Year High School Reunion

The excitement builds as the friends discuss the logistics of their upcoming reunion. Kristin enthusiastically shares, "Our 20 year high school reunion is literally coming up."[03:03] They contemplate attending together to strengthen their bond further, with Alex affirming, "I can't wait." The group debates the best way to organize the event, ensuring it's a memorable gathering that honors their shared history.

7. Nostalgia and Reconnecting Through Recent Events

Reflecting on recent reunions, such as the Uncommon James shoot two years prior, the friends express gratitude for moments that allowed them to reconnect and reinforce their friendships. Huzy notes, "It was a blessing to do that because we all have a special bond."

8. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Kristin and her friends celebrate the strength of their enduring friendships formed through both high school and their reality TV experiences. Kristin concludes with heartfelt appreciation, "Thank you guys so much for coming and doing this." The group looks forward to their upcoming reunion with anticipation, confident in the lasting connections they've maintained over the years.

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Notable Quotes:

• Kristin Cavallari [00:23]: "Today is the season two of Laguna Beach Girlies. They are in Nashville with me."

• Alex [01:56]: "I think Broadway... that's how you do Nashville."

• Huzy [04:43]: "Cringe... No, I mean it was fun."

• Jessica [07:25]: "Our relationship was hard, especially because we were so close and then they divided us."

• Huzy [43:40]: "It was a little bit of a trauma bond, but now that hindsight's 20/20, I would do it all over again just for the relationship that we all have."

• Kristin Cavallari [51:25]: "Thank you guys so much for coming and doing this."

This episode serves as a poignant reminder of the complexities of maintaining authentic relationships amidst the orchestrated pressures of reality television. Through laughter, reflection, and heartfelt conversations, Kristin and her friends showcase the resilience of true friendship over time.

Transcript

[Jessica]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Kristin Cavallari]

This is let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Cause I got all the power.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Welcome in to let's Be honest. I have a really fun rerun episode for you guys today. Today is the season two of Laguna Beach Girlies. They are in Nashville with me. This was taped almost a year ago. The girls came to stay with me for the weekend, and we had a blast taping this episode at my house. Alex. Alex and Jessica are some of my favorite people on the planet. We just have that special bond that we've had for over 20 years now because, you know, going to high school together and filming the show together. I love these girls with my life. And in honor of me gearing up for my podcast tour, I thought this would be a fun little throwback while I am currently busy planning everything for the tour. So enjoy this episode with the Laguna beach girls. Welcome in to let's Be Honest. I'm your host, Kristin Cavallari, and what a fun episode today. It's a Laguna Beach High School reunion, essentially at my house. We have Jessica, Huzy, and Alex. I so excited to have you guys here. So we just had a bit of a wild weekend, I would say.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We were in Nashville, decided to stay downtown for a couple days. So you guys have never been to Nashville, right?

[Jessica]

Never, never. And I. You obviously can tell by my lovely raspy voice that this is. Was a good weekend.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It was a good time. Yeah, it was a good time. So figured the girls were coming in town. We're gonna have to do it right. So we stayed downtown the last two nights, and we really did it up right.

[Alex]

So fun.

[Jessica]

We did.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What was your guys's favorite part?

[Alex]

I think Broadway. Like, yesterday, doing the day thing on Broadway was like, that's. I feel like that's like how you do Nashville.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, classic day drinking on Broadway, bumping around.

[Jessica]

Yeah, just like the people watching. So good. And the music.

[Alex]

Yeah, it's so fun.

[Jessica]

And it just gets better as the drinks roll in.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, it's weird how that works. Things just get better and better with each drink. Okay, so we wanted to give you guys a little insight into Laguna beach, the show. And obviously we had the Back to the beach podcast. You guys all came on, which was really fun, but I felt like it would be even more fun to have the gals Together to really just pull back the curtain and just go for it.

[Jessica]

Let's do it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We were just recapping a little bit, just talking about high school shit. And we're like, God, some of this stuff we used to do is, like, just insane.

[Jessica]

But it was so much fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It was so much fun.

[Jessica]

Like, when people say that, like, they don't like their high school moments, like, I feel sad for them because I feel like we had so much fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We really did it right. We lifted up. We peaked in high school. Here we are still talking about it 20 years later. We haven't been able to move on from it.

[Alex]

No. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Still following us.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's still everywhere we go. Wait, do you guys. Our 20 year high school reunion is literally coming up.

[Huzy]

Oh, I forgot.

[Alex]

In, like a year.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes.

[Alex]

From, like, right now.

[Jessica]

That really dates us.

[Alex]

Wow.

[Jessica]

How did that happen?

[Kristin Cavallari]

It was. It blows my mind, honestly.

[Jessica]

Did you guys go to the den?

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, because I had just had sailor like four or five days before. Did you go?

[Alex]

No, I was pregnant. I'm so, like, not. No.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, I went. How was it?

[Jessica]

Yeah, tell us about it, Jess.

[Huzy]

So good.

[Jessica]

Will the 20 year be better, do you think?

[Huzy]

So much better.

[Alex]

Yeah. We should all try to really go.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, I'm counting down.

[Alex]

I can't wait.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I've been living for this for 20 years.

[Alex]

Yeah. Yeah, right?

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's finally almost here. It'll be so fun.

[Jessica]

Well, who's planning it?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I don't know.

[Alex]

Someone. It's like someone's in trouble. The class, Is it the valedict?

[Huzy]

Valid president.

[Alex]

What's it called?

[Huzy]

Valedictorian. But I think Emily planned the tenure.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, so I wonder if she also plans the 20.

[Huzy]

I don't know. We'll have to find that out.

[Alex]

I think it'll happen. There's no way they wouldn't.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, someone's gotta be.

[Jessica]

Well, if not, I'll do it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Great.

[Alex]

Perfect. We're doing it now.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, this is it right here. Well, and we got to see Jason yesterday. He came and visited us on Broadway, which was really fun.

[Huzy]

Has he been on the podcast yet?

[Kristin Cavallari]

So he was on the Back to the beach podcast.

[Huzy]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But he is going to come on this one with Dr. Amen.

[Alex]

Oh, good.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, yeah, so that'll be really good. At one point, I told him to stop over today, but I don't know, maybe got a little sidetracked.

[Alex]

Yeah, yeah, we're a little tired today.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So when you guys look back on Laguna beach, on the show, specifically, what are your overall feelings of it?

[Huzy]

Cringe.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Really?

[Huzy]

No, I mean it was fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. But there's definitely moments like does anyone.

[Huzy]

Want to be filmed at 15 acting.

[Jessica]

A fool or 17 or 17.

[Huzy]

I was 15.

[Jessica]

Were you?

[Huzy]

I graduated at 17. No, it was soft.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Wait, how old are you? No, Junior. We were Junior.

[Huzy]

16. But I think it started filming before I turned 16.

[Alex]

I think that's.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, how old are you right now?

[Huzy]

36.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, so you are a year younger, so that's possible.

[Huzy]

I don't know, maybe I was 16 or like you're probably 16 or whatever.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't realize that you were younger like that.

[Alex]

Yeah. I didn't know you graduated at 17. That's wild.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know.

[Jessica]

Skip to grade.

[Huzy]

I'm so intelligent.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Look at you. Thank God, because I got you on the show. What do you guys think when you look back on it?

[Alex]

I love it. I mean, obviously there's moments that are like awkward and you're like, I can't believe that's out there forever at our young age. But it's like, look at us now. We're still like embracing the experience.

[Jessica]

So you had like the best like one liners.

[Huzy]

Like you were so funny.

[Jessica]

You and Talon both like. Yeah, just like the things that would come out of your mouth like now as an adult, I'm like, that was like so witty.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know.

[Jessica]

Smart and funny.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like we're over here saying the dumbest imaginable and you're hilarious.

[Alex]

Well, I feel like I was like fortunate in a way. Like I didn't have a big storyline. Like that was your guys's like place to be. So I was like a fill in. So I was just there. Like I like you guys had so much more weight to carry.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You were the comedic release.

[Alex]

Yeah, yeah. Like the friend like Jessica Jason's calling you to this day.

[Huzy]

So really great.

[Alex]

Yeah, Great, great one liners. Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What about you?

[Jessica]

I mean I, I feel like it's a mixed bag of emotions. It's like, yeah, I'm so grateful. And then like I'm haunted by like my, you know, like obviously like little moments or a big moment, like, but it's overall like wonderful.

[Huzy]

You know, I feel like if like people ask us, would you do it again? Regret it? And every single one of us say don't regret it. We totally do it again. So while it's like cringy in certain times, it's like you learned a lot, you know?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Totally.

[Jessica]

There's, there's something really sweet about the show because we're so bombarded with Reality shows now that like, because it was that first of its kind movement, like, that will never happen again ever. And like, it was very much real sense of like, yeah, we had to like, have set up times to go talk. But like, we, like, there was nothing to know what we were doing. Yeah, like, yeah, we're going to talk about that person.

[Alex]

It was pretty raw and real.

[Jessica]

There was no, like, forward thinking of like, what our future would be after. Like, we weren't motivated by.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

What was gonna come.

[Huzy]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Where now people go on a reality show specifically to like create a career out of it, where that was never a thing. We had no one to look to.

[Huzy]

We didn't even have like social media. Like, now these people go on shows and they're like, no.

[Alex]

Right. There's like, whatever.

[Huzy]

We didn't have any of that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Which honestly, thank God because oh my gosh, I would have been an even a bigger train wreck if I were social media.

[Alex]

Right.

[Jessica]

Record me like doing appearances at 18. Oh God, I don't even. Like, I have blocked that out of my memory forever.

[Alex]

Well, just like zero accountability. Like, we were just out in the wild thinking we're like, hot shit. Yeah, yeah, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were. I feel like, I mean, we took advantage of it in the best way at that time. But looking back, you're like, someone could have been there along the way to be like, okay, you gotta like refocus or do this. But it's like, but we wouldn't have experienced. That's true. Cuz when you're that age, you're like, I'm gonna.

[Jessica]

You're living it up. It was like, it was like going from high school to like a college like, experience. And now you're the college of Hollywood. Yeah, there you go.

[Huzy]

It was a great time in college.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That was my college experience.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What's like the one thing that just stands out in everyone's head of like, God damn it. That was like the worst thing I could have done. Like, what's one moment for everybody overall?

[Jessica]

I mean, we can all look at me for that one. And mine definitely was the comma and Jessica situation when you guys got in a fight. I just feel like it's now having kids too. Like, ugh. Like, my heart and my gut is like, I just would never want anyone to talk that way or be. But again, it's high school and you do catty things and your girls but like, to have that, like, live forever. And then. Not only that, but I, like, loved Jessica too. It was like, we weren't, like, best friends, like, senior year, but, like, we definitely were friends in some moments.

[Huzy]

Listen, we've been sharing a bed all weekend.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Huzy]

Like, we're good, you know, Like.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Like, we've been fine.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That happened. We were fine.

[Huzy]

Fine.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

After the show aired, we would, like, be, like. We were still. Be great. We were still great friends.

[Huzy]

Because on the opposite side, like, that's an embarrassing moment for me, too. Like, not standing up for myself and being like, whatever you want, you know? Like, that doesn't.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

I don't look good either, you know?

[Alex]

Right.

[Huzy]

So I get it. Like, you. And I feel like that was, like, aggressor technically. So you're like. I'm not trying to take away that. Like, you know, no bad moment from you either, but it's like, you know, I don't think either one of us.

[Alex]

No.

[Huzy]

Shined in that.

[Jessica]

It wasn't a shiny moment.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No. There was really shine on that show ever. I don't think I had one shiny moment.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Were there any?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I don't think so. Except for maybe Trey, because they were always showing him in a good light. Like, that's nice.

[Alex]

You're such a good guy.

[Jessica]

I love that for him.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, that's really nice. What about you?

[Alex]

Hoozy again? I feel like I. I was like, okay, but, like, some of, like, this fiesta party, like, so fun. Like, not a very shiny moment, but just the fact that we were, like, consuming and that was out there, like. Like, kind of gnarly. Yeah.

[Huzy]

Hammered it.

[Alex]

I think it, like, fully showed me, like, pouring a margarita.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know what it was, the margarita mix. They couldn't actually show the alcohol, but they showed you pouring the mix and like, oh, what are they drinking? I wonder what that is.

[Alex]

And then we're school on, like, a Friday. I know, but, I mean, it's. It. I don't know.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Could. That could have been worse?

[Alex]

It could have been more.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I mean, we definitely. We were just talking about this whole weekend. Like, we got after it in Laguna, I think, a little bit differently than other schools. Like, Laguna. We grew up quickly.

[Alex]

Totally.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We had access to a lot of things. It's obviously a wealthy community. I think in really wealthy communities, parents kind of like, look the other way.

[Alex]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And we got into a lot of trouble. Like, that was a normal.

[Alex]

Totally. That was a normal thing to do. It wasn't like, we just did that right out of the blue. Right. Like, the partying was just like. Like that in Laguna.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So we did.

[Jessica]

It was like, also a very hippie community. So I feel like that also played like a big role versus like some of the other towns next door. It's like parents are very much like, like you know, kind of involved, like knew what we were doing and like it was okay. Like that's true. They were kind of doing it too.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It was more acceptable.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, that is a good point.

[Huzy]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Alex]

I totally get that.

[Huzy]

There was one scene, I remember, that Jason and I were at dinner and they, like, cut to, like, us playing footsie under the table and me being like, why don't you come over? Like, my mom's gone or something. I'm like, something weird like that. I'm like, that didn't even happen. Yeah, like, that's not even true. And my mom wasn't gone, and I was like, that. Like, at 16. Like, that seems, like, very. That was, like, very risky.

[Alex]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, that is kind of pushing.

[Alex]

You know what I mean?

[Huzy]

I was like, that was kind of gross.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So did they get that with wild lines where you would literally just say audio lines telling you like, oh, yeah.

[Huzy]

My mom's not home right now from.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Another scene you don't see, oh, they.

[Huzy]

Shot to my feet and had me saying that. Like, of course I wasn't saying that because they would have showed my face.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I always said when I came out, if you don't actually see the words coming out of my mouth, I didn't say it there.

[Huzy]

Yep. And if you go back and really listen, like, you can tell the, like, volume is different.

[Jessica]

Yeah, well, the editing in general, like, Talon would have short hair and then long hair. Or like, I was, like, 10 pounds heavier in one thing. Seen in the next scene, I was, like, back to, like, being, like, thinner again. It's like, it was. I feel like, for me, like, that I think our storyline with Jason really did me dirty.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Like. Like, I was really stealing her boyfriend. Like, especially the Winter Formal.

[Huzy]

Oh, yeah.

[Jessica]

They were not together.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Wait, remind me, what happened at Winter Formal?

[Huzy]

No, we were still together.

[Jessica]

No, you guys had gone back together. I had asked him before, and he said yes.

[Huzy]

Yeah, you. But you had asked him, like, long, long before.

[Alex]

Right.

[Jessica]

And then you guys had got together.

[Huzy]

And I was like, that's fine. I'll go with Jake. I don't want to babysit him anyways, remember? I want to, like, enjoy.

[Jessica]

Actually think we might have filmed a scene where, like, I did ask, like, hey, Jess. Or called you hey, like, I'm totally fine going with Jake or whoever. It Was like, so you and Jason can go together? And you're like, no, it's totally cool. And I was like, jason, go with Jessica. And he's like, it's fine. Like, we're all gonna be together.

[Huzy]

You know? It, like, wasn't it.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So I feel like the.

[Huzy]

Yeah, that wasn't fair on you because that's not.

[Jessica]

That's not how I feel. Like, it really made me look like I was, like, the aggressor and, like, really trying to steal Jason away from Jessica, which was, like, just timepieces edited when there was never a cheat. Like, he never cheated on Jessica or. What is it?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, never cheated on Jessica, right?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Like, I. That was never the reason why they broke up or the time periods were so far.

[Alex]

But don't you feel like with the show, like, in that. Because the producers kind of would like to tell you things to, like, feed you a little bait before something, so it. Like, even though you know what was actually going on, you can't help but kind of fall into, like, the situation.

[Jessica]

Me and Jason dating in general.

[Alex]

Was that right?

[Jessica]

Oh, like, you guys have been friends for so long. Let's. Let's go. Like, do you guys want to go to dinner? And we're like, that's why it's so awkward in those moments. Like, oh, I like your face.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, oh, my God, that was so funny. Or, like, that was the thing. Like, we'd be sarcastic about something, like, around, and then they would use it to make it look like it was real. And I'd, like, remember, like, we were walking on one side of the street. Okay. This is one of my favorites. Okay. You, Jessica, who's. He and I are walking on one side of the street, and there's a producer on the other side. And they're like, just, you know, look over at her and, like, you know, make faces or whatever. And Jessica Reynolds, the producer would, like, stick her tongue out us and stuff, and we'd be joking around, like, what a. Yeah. And then they made it look like we were talking to you and Taylor. Like, you guys were on the other side.

[Jessica]

They did the same thing.

[Alex]

Like, that's how we actually were, which isn't how it was. So rude.

[Jessica]

I don't think people realize, like, how close we were.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's so myth.

[Jessica]

Like, it was not. Like, everyone's like, oh, you're friends with, like, who's he? And Kristen. I was like, we. We were, like, best friends.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That whole part of the show. But I get it because, like, it Needed to be divided to have storylines.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, no, of course. I mean, you can't have a show without drama, obviously. But, like, I remember even watching it back for Back to the beach being like, God, was I really not friends with Alex Merle? And it's like, no, I'm falling for their shit. Like, no, we were all good friends. Even Taylor. Like, I didn't hate Taylor the same way that the show made it seem like.

[Huzy]

No, but it was so hard watching, like, the VHS tape that came too. And you're like, that's not even what we were talking about. And we didn't actually say that. And then you'd be like, what the he? Like, you have to relive it and.

[Jessica]

Then call each other.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Huzy]

And be like, what is wrong with you?

[Alex]

Yeah, because we would get the tape, like, the day before it would air.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Probably just to get ready for it. Like, if you think about, like, by.

[Huzy]

The way, somebody literally before I came here, that was like, well, you had say in, like, what was shown. I'm like, no, we didn't. We didn't even know what was going to air until the literal day before. They gave us 24 hours. Like, call our grandmas and be like, sorry, Grandma wasn't.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's.

[Huzy]

We're acting, you know, Like, I mean.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, I think about all the time. Like, we were so young to have our lives manipulated like that. Like, that's the one thing for me where I'm just like, I don't know. That should maybe be illegal in a lot of ways. Like, we were children and, like, not playing the victim card, but, like, it was really difficult.

[Huzy]

And we also, like, don't get paid all the time. Like, at all. Yeah, like, nothing. And then, like, the producers are, like, rolling around in their Bentleys. Like, after manipulating a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'm like, by the way, still don't make a fucking penny. Nothing Netflix and shit now that it's still don't make.

[Huzy]

I'm like, can you pay my anxiety that my kids are now in middle school and are like, my friend watched your show, Mom? I'm like, no.

[Alex]

You know, like, yeah.

[Huzy]

I'm like, how about some royalties? You know, like, literally. So that always irritated me, too. I'm like, y'all are, like, causing, like, a lot of stress, you know, and then. And we did not really. I mean, we're all fine and everything's great, but I'm just like, but for a kid, we got very taken advantage of. And so, like, we just didn't know it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

You know, I think that's like why we were like felt separated because they wanted like the three of you to film and then they wanted me, Taylor Morgan, to film. So it was like filming wise, like we were never together because they had needed those. But then we were all friends right on the back end. Yeah, but I like, I really thought that I was gonna be like the funny girl on the show.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, I was like, I love it so much.

[Jessica]

I was like, I like thought it was so funny. And then I would get the tapes and I like would go white. I'm like, I'm the mean girl. I know what I was like. I was just trying to be myself.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's how you really are. No, I'm just kidding.

[Alex]

No, no.

[Jessica]

I was like, maybe I needed self reflection here.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But it is interesting because like at that age, I think it's very rare for like a 17 year old that say to like know who they are. So I remember being like, whoa, am I this way? And if I am, I don't want to be like that. So I think it actually made me like grow up and hopefully become nicer. You know what I mean?

[Huzy]

I feel like that's the one, like, great benefit is that you're like, I remember watching it being like, that is not a great quality. That is not an attractive trait. Let's go ahead and change that real quick, you know, so that was kind of nice. Even if it was manipulated in a bit, you're like, okay, well, even if it is, I still don't want to ever act like that. So let's get that under control, you know? So that's kind of nice.

[Kristin Cavallari]

A lot of those moments.

[Alex]

Oh, same.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, God. We're really like, yeah, okay. Without the show, just high school in general. What if you could go back and relive any day, what would it be?

[Alex]

Today?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Or like a little time period in high school. Because, I mean, we had a lot of fun. There were so many highlights, like on, off or off camera, I could say, or either one. If it was an on camera moment too, that's fine. But.

[Alex]

Well, like, for me, I feel like we've been like reminiscing like before Laguna started filming, like, because that's when we met Alex met you. Which I saw in a known story. Yeah, like you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, sorry, Freshman year.

[Alex]

The middle of freshman year. Middle of freshman year. Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, because it was driver's ed. It was like the second semester of freshman year.

[Alex]

You came to Laguna sophomore year. Right. So it was like those moments before when we were first getting to know you and you were becoming involved, like, Alex was like, oh my gosh. I met this like really fun girl at driver's Ed and we all became friends and then like ended up having like boyfriends that were kind of friends, like that period of time, but they also could drive so they could give us rides everywhere.

[Jessica]

I just had a memory pop in my head and sorry, Jess, I don't think you were in this one. But do you guys remember? You would all get dressed at my house.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And we'd wear like these big old.

[Alex]

Heels, like the platform.

[Jessica]

So we. I lived at like top of the world, which like people don't know. It's like. Like the canyon is like right beneath you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So we would. Do you remember? We'd walk the fire trail and you'd.

[Alex]

Like party up there. Yeah.

[Jessica]

And in our little heels, we're like, click, click, click, click, click.

[Alex]

And it was like full going outfit.

[Jessica]

We'd like out and it was like pitch black dark on a mile long canyon road to go meet up with God knows who.

[Alex]

You could get to like the other valley or whatever where all the other houses were. So it'd be a party over yonder. You know, like hike a mile.

[Jessica]

I just feel like clickety clock of our heels going down like the steep, like.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I mean, the shit we used to do. Or like we were talking last night, like our freshman year. There was another girl, Bailey, who was hanging out with us too. And we'd be like, dad, I'm spending the night at Bailey's. Dad, I'm spending Alex's. You know, and then there were. Sometimes we'd be like, now where do we go?

[Alex]

Where do we go at like 4am.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We'Re like, wait, now?

[Jessica]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think I slept in my car a couple times.

[Jessica]

We're like, we really couldn't go home.

[Alex]

None of us could go to either house at like. We didn't know about that. No. Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, oh, no. And then we'd be like, okay, what's the earliest we could go to someone's.

[Alex]

House, you know, with like two hours of sleep. Right.

[Jessica]

Kristen, like, didn't have pajamas. We had like.

[Alex]

Right. Like have a whole story behind it. Like, oh my gosh, they had to go somewhere.

[Jessica]

Phone line. So like, like. Which was like so dumb on my parents.

[Alex]

That was such a big deal.

[Jessica]

But it was like my line.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So we give it all to the parents.

[Huzy]

Oh my gosh.

[Alex]

I had like a whole system.

[Jessica]

They're like, leave your parents number.

[Huzy]

I'm like, our poor kids aren't gonna get away with anything, but. Because we know. But b, like, this day and age, it's like we were like the last.

[Alex]

Week, you know, so different.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But do you feel. Because like my mom has always said, but watch, they'll be one step ahead of you. Like, do you feel like it's different though? Like now it's like social media, so even, like, you can put trackers on phones. Yeah, I' heard too. There's ways for them to, like, turn.

[Huzy]

It off and they can increase their bubble to like, make it like.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, yeah.

[Huzy]

I don't know how. So I'm trying to figure all that out.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Figure out. So we're like, oh, they can't get anything past us.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, no, they will.

[Huzy]

They'll just be way more sneaky and not as dumb as being like, literally.

[Alex]

They all talk and they're like, parents know how to do this, so you have to do that. And I hide this and that up.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Or like sneaking out of my house because my. My room was on like, the main level and there was no screen or anything on it.

[Alex]

So we would just open it up. We would.

[Huzy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

I remember too, one time, like, sneaking back in, I stepped on the blow dryer. So it starts going off and we're like. Makes the frantic rumbling and we've like, got it off, got settled, jumped in bed. And your dad actually came in to, like, check.

[Kristin Cavallari]

He did.

[Alex]

And for like, timing wise, we like, had made it. Like we all were in bed just like, holy.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I don't remember that. Yeah, well, I definitely got taken home by the cops a few times after I snuck out. My dad's like, wait, what you were saying, though.

[Alex]

Cops would get called. Like, I remember getting put in.

[Huzy]

For.

[Jessica]

How wild we were.

[Huzy]

Like, there was a lot of cops out, like, I know looking for.

[Alex]

But I mean, they like, rightfully so. All the kids party there all the time.

[Huzy]

Right.

[Jessica]

We would, like, they would like, throw cake parties in the canyon.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Or like. Yeah, we would, like, go through the clickety clock stories just saying, like, we like, go through the bushes. Yeah. And like rocks and boulders and like, there's probably like five a pack of coyotes over there. We're like, oh, let's get a beer. Like, there was like, no place. If there was no place, that's where we would go.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's where I go. I had a party one time. I had a Halloween party. You guys remember this? I think my dad was on his honeymoon or something and raging party. I was a nurse, like, One of those little slutty nurses. I cleaned that house spotless. I was like, my dad will never know. He found one beer can underneath the couch. And he was like, you had a party? I was like, damn it, one beer can. Although now that I'm an adult, I'm like, he probably just said that, honestly. And then I just caved, you know, I was like, you're right.

[Jessica]

I'm sorry.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, that's what I would do as a parent to try to catch my kids.

[Huzy]

Yeah, sure.

[Alex]

Be like, I'm going to trap them.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Exactly. Like the neighbor told me that, you know, get some people over.

[Alex]

Oh, like, I did it. I'm sorry. Who's the damn neighbor?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Good thing I don't have any neighbors or. No, not a good thing. I can't use my kids.

[Alex]

I'm.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, the neighbor ways away, they saw a lot of cars coming in.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God. Or like, I remember I would like, take out my mom's car before we could drive and. But then.

[Alex]

Do you remember this?

[Huzy]

Do you remember when your mom lived in cdm?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

And you took out her car?

[Jessica]

Do you remember when I cried?

[Huzy]

Like I crashed it.

[Jessica]

Picking up.

[Huzy]

It was like a Mercedes, right?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

Okay, okay.

[Alex]

It was like, crash.

[Jessica]

Oh, no, no. This is like forever gonna hunt me. But like, so we go to pick up Bailey, me and Uzi, and my mom was out of town. It was like her brand new X5. Oh, no, don't have my life.

[Alex]

I forgot about this story.

[Jessica]

Go to Pelican. Like Newport coast. And Michaela was with us.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I was like, yeah, this is the house. And I like, thought it wasn't. I was like, haha, wrong house, Michael. That's the wrong house.

[Alex]

Like, make the friend go find you. We're like tricking them.

[Jessica]

No, I was like. I was like, yeah, that's the house, Miguel. I was like, ah, no, it's not. I was like, I'm gonna reverse because it's the wrong house. And I like my karma. Bam. Like right into like, some tiny car. And I panicked and I tried to go back into Drive. Still in reverse.

[Alex]

Do it again. Yeah, totally hit it again. The alarm goes off. Bailey comes out. Oh, God. No.

[Jessica]

Keep going, Michaela. They run in the car and like, in the gated community.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Always bring down your license plate. So I was like, oh, no, didn't.

[Alex]

Someone came out of their house to, like, see what was going on. And we just. I think we.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You just left.

[Alex]

I was 15.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, I mean, you would have been.

[Alex]

What you say I wasn't the driver.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I didn't.

[Alex]

I don't think. It wasn't like a crash crash, but it was enough.

[Jessica]

No one was in it. It was a parked car.

[Alex]

But, you know, you're like frantic, so it's like, try to go drive. And you're finger drive. You reverse.

[Jessica]

And we look at my mom's car. Not a. Not a fucking scratch.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Wow.

[Jessica]

I was like, like, like my mom was so scary in high school. Like, my dad was cool, but my mom was scary. And I was like, okay. They got back home, no one talked about it. No one called about the license plate. Thought I was in the clear. Well, the fucking neighbor.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Goddamn neighbors, man.

[Jessica]

And I like, oh, my God. I think it was granted for the summer.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You must have been.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

Was it your mom that started writing her mileage down on her car?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, wait, that's a good idea. Oh, yeah.

[Alex]

To make sure.

[Jessica]

Yes. That is because she was going back and forth. Oh, my God.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's actually genius.

[Alex]

Yeah, that is a really good.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Or like the parents that will put water in the vodka bottles and stuff. I remember when you measure.

[Alex]

Measure the bottle.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. We used to steal wine from my dad time. And my dad one time sat me down and he was like, you see this bottle? This is a 200, 200 bottle. You see this one? 150. He's like, you take another bottle, you're dead.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Like, it wasn't even that good wine anyways.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God. You're probably like pounding it, like.

[Alex]

Oh, yeah. Like, you're not drinking wine to sip it for its flavor. At that point you're just like, oh, my God.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So insane. We're lucky to be alive, quite honestly. Some of the shit we did. Yeah. We stole my brother's car one time too, when we were 15. I mean, just like. Because you would lose your license, I think, if you got caught for that. Right?

[Jessica]

Oh, my gosh. I don't think you could drive till 18. Is that what it is? Yeah, it was like. It was like a. Like a thing. I don't know why we were so ballsy.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We literally thought we could get away with anything.

[Huzy]

Well, we thought we were so smart.

[Jessica]

I have another. Do you remember us driving and it was us three. Sorry.

[Huzy]

Jess, listen, I was a really good girl, okay. I went to bed at 8:30.

[Alex]

This is like those, like the sophomore junior year. This was like pre right before and then everything else. Yeah, that was a junior. Senior.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Alex]

So like all these moments, but I feel like we were like. Were we worse then? Like it Sounds really bad.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think those were phases. I would say we were worse before, I think, like freshman.

[Alex]

Before we got our license.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Like mellowed out by senior year.

[Huzy]

Older boyfriends, like freshmen with like senior boyfriends. Like once they all started graduating, you're kind of like.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, because like, I don't know. Yeah, I remember senior year we were just like all these people. This is so lame. You know? So it was like. It was different. We didn't have like same motivation, like go out and get up.

[Alex]

Totally.

[Kristin Cavallari]

When you're younger and it's like all older people, you're like, oh my God.

[Jessica]

At the cool party.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, we were over it at that point.

[Alex]

Well, because then you're the senior girls and all of the guys are dating like the freshman girls. Just like we kind of did.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Exactly.

[Alex]

We're like, damn it. Like, we're those girls now.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I dated Sam. Hot Sam second semester. No, first I can't remember because I did senior year.

[Alex]

I think it was senior year.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

Sam, it's got to be.

[Alex]

I think it was this. It was towards this summer. I think you dated Matt Leiner during the fall. He was fully football. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. So then I dated Sam's second semester, senior year.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, I went for a senior.

[Huzy]

Okay, well you have to edit this out.

[Jessica]

But he was.

[Huzy]

He was.

[Kristin Cavallari]

When? At prom, senior year. Yes.

[Alex]

That's like. Is that a crossover with Kristen?

[Huzy]

So I thought it was the first semester. But don't put that in.

[Alex]

That's like hold the up.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I didn't even really think about this.

[Alex]

Jennings house who was your talent.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But I didn't want to be with him because I wanted to be with Sam.

[Alex]

He had sex.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Call Sam right now.

[Alex]

Yeah, get him on the line. And then we'll be like, you're too hot to be mad at. I'm sorry. I'm over it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's fine. Because we were at Mike Jenny 100% hanging out.

[Huzy]

We were at Mike Jennings after party when we moved to la and they. She like disappeared and I'm like, where the are you?

[Jessica]

My little high school heart is crushed. Yeah, little sweet Sam's not so sweet.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'm not going to the 20 year reunion anymore.

[Jessica]

Well, he lives in New York, so I don't think he's not going.

[Huzy]

Okay, but Eddie, that out because I feel bad.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Can I just bleep her name? Can I bleep her name? Okay, well we can bleep her name, but my God, I'm devastated now.

[Alex]

Sam Scandal. D man.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What else?

[Alex]

Now you're all hurt. You're like, over. It's over.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's the whole podcast.

[Jessica]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, I'm just joking.

[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Huzy]

I watch all the house.

[Alex]

You do?

[Huzy]

My mom's always like, how can you watch this after?

[Kristin Cavallari]

But do you watch it and you're, like, analyzing it? Like, oh, that probably.

[Huzy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sometimes. Or I'm like, you're being so fake or. Yeah, camera time or whatever.

[Alex]

Yeah, right.

[Huzy]

I mean, it's still like, just smut, you know?

[Jessica]

Do you think that's like. Maybe it's my perception, but I feel like it's obvious to everybody, I think. Or maybe it's just.

[Huzy]

Well, nowadays.

[Alex]

Well, there's so much out there. It's like, over flooded. Like, it's such a thing. But when, like, when the Hills was out and then there was, like, the fringe shows after that, I. I didn't watch it or keep up with it, but it was like a weird, like, being connected to it. It was, like, hard to watch it. Like, knowing, but, like, wanting to support it. But also, like, not. Like, that was more.

[Jessica]

I think that was harder to watch.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I couldn't watch.

[Alex]

I couldn't watch the Hills when it was on.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I just.

[Jessica]

Yeah, because we knew what they were doing so specifically. Yeah.

[Alex]

Right.

[Jessica]

I mean, I didn't realize how much more, like, fake it was.

[Alex]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, do you remember Perez Hilton used to, like, call it out and be like, your nails are one color in a scene, and then two seconds later, they're another color. Like, people started, like, really catch on. And he would call it out, which I actually kind of loved. So I do feel like that was the beginning of people being like, oh, wait, maybe this stuff really isn't real.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But I do feel like. Well, the difference is, again, we went into it innocently in the sense we're like. We're not trying to, like, get more camera time. It wasn't like, oh, I know if I bring the drama.

[Huzy]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We were just, like, doing our thing where now it's like people have a whole agenda going on to reality shows. So I think it's editing. I think it's all the same things that they were doing to us. Plus people being like, I'm gonna bring my A game.

[Alex]

Right. They, like, create their own narrative and put it all out there for that camera time.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Exactly.

[Alex]

But I feel like that's like what you have to do now. It is like, be that anybody will.

[Jessica]

Do it for anything.

[Alex]

Anything. Yeah. Yeah. And again, like, Alex was saying, even though there was, like, setup times and we kind of, like, would get, like, direction. Be like. Like, talk about how this person's going to prom with this person, like, prompted. But none of us were, like, fighting for a storyline. Right. Like, it was kind of handed to you, but it wasn't, like, that desperate.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

They had writers, so I feel like.

[Alex]

They kind of like.

[Jessica]

Like, put you out.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Remember, like, prom is a good example. Like, they'd be like, okay, talk about promise. Talk about it like it's coming up. They're like, all right, now let's talk about it like it just happened. And we're like, okay, but how the are we gonna talk about it like it just happened, and we don't know what the happened. But, like, looking back now, it's because they already knew it, what storyline they were going to.

[Huzy]

They were trying to. Well, you, like, I don't know if they ever did this to y'all, but, like, with me, they would be like, did you hear about. Blah, blah, blah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, God.

[Huzy]

Cameras up. And it's like a genuine. You. I was probably talking with you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, my God.

[Huzy]

It's like a genuine reaction.

[Alex]

You're like, you wouldn't know. So they would do that. I think maybe that was the scene we did. But yeah.

[Huzy]

Yeah. And so then you're like, okay. And then you're talking about that because you're like, like. And it's like a bomb, you know? Like, it's not something like, oh, she was holding his hand.

[Alex]

Like, yeah.

[Huzy]

You're just like. And so then it makes you look extra. So that was like, whoa.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, that should be illegal. Where they can just, like, say random to you to get a reaction out of you.

[Huzy]

And especially about stuff that was going on, like, when cameras weren't up. It's like, that's not.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

Involved, you know, that's crazy.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Do you guys feel like it helped friendships or. And relationships or made it a stressor on both.

[Huzy]

I think it was. I think now it's helped because we all have, like, this bond, and now that we're older and mature, we, like, can, like, laugh about it and rehash it. And it's like, while it was good, it's like, it's still, like, a little bit of a trauma bond.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, we can. Here we are almost 20 years later, still talking about it. Because it's like, it was, like, core thing that happened to us that doesn't happen to everyone else, you know? Right. I think in the moment when we didn't realize how manipulated we are, and you watch a VHS and you're like, why are you talking about me like that?

[Alex]

Right, right.

[Huzy]

And you don't realize. I mean, sometimes it was authentic maybe, but, like, for the most part, it really wasn't. And so you're like, oh, yesterday you were my friend, but now today you're saying this stuff on camera. Like, yeah, it was. I think that made it a little bit harder on relationships in the moment. But I think now that, like, hindsight's 20 20, I'm like, I would, like, do it all over again just for, like, the relationship that we all have, you know?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Well said.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I like that.

[Jessica]

I feel like our relationship was like. Like, I feel like, was hard.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Especially, like, because we were so close and then they divided us, so it was like, yeah, naturally. My voice. Sorry, guys.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Crying.

[Jessica]

Just brought up so much emotion. Yeah. No, so I just. I feel like our relationship, for sure.

[Alex]

Yeah. I think I was guilty to that. Like. Like feeding into it more and, like, letting it drive a wedge between, like, the dynamic the three of us had. But it's like, you're so young and you're getting fed that. Like, you. You start to believe that's like, oh, no, we're supposed to be, like, versus them.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Right.

[Alex]

You know, when it wasn't, like, if there wouldn't have been a thing. Yeah, totally. Totally.

[Jessica]

And even, like, you said the Taylor thing, it's like you and Tay didn't, like, ever hate each other.

[Alex]

No. You guys were never like, really close, but there wasn't ever really an issue until all of that mtv and it's like, oh, and Talon, like, throw him into the mix. Yeah.

[Jessica]

There was definitely a separation in groups for sure. All being, like, one.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

And do you feel like maybe it was just me, but, like, towards the end where it's like, they'd have you do wild lines and you're like, I already know what this is going to.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, I know.

[Huzy]

Like, what option do I have here right now? Like, let's just get this over.

[Alex]

There's no.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know what I mean?

[Alex]

Like.

[Huzy]

Yeah. Oh, you want me to say that? Like, okay.

[Alex]

Right.

[Huzy]

You know, like, you just, like, let me. You know.

[Alex]

That was, like, your storyline. Yeah, that's right, though. We would, like, go after. We'd, like, drive to LA to, like, the sound studio, and, like, they would give you A little script to be like, hey, say this and say it that way.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. They would even do it on set though, too. Like, they'd have us go in the minivan and just record lines and then they could splice it in wherever they wanted. You know what I realized was because, you know, at the time, obviously at that age, like, you make everything about you. And I was like, I was so edited and oh my God, and I look so bad and blah, blah, blah, doing the Back to the beach podcast, I was like, oh, everyone was edited just as much. We were all in the same boat. I was over here this whole time. Like, it was just me. They with me. No, they fucked with all of us. They all had, you know, that there were like, specific characters that they wanted us to play and we weren't allowed to, like, get outside of that box. I feel like, right.

[Huzy]

Like, I was very much like a pick me girl, you know, I feel like, like that's like the.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, that's right now.

[Huzy]

And it's like behind the scenes, like, what nobody else saw.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But don't you feel so much?

[Huzy]

You know what I mean? So it's just very like.

[Alex]

Like, I know for you because you guys, again, had like, storylines. Like, you would also kind of fall into your role that you already knew was, like, being projected and put out there.

[Huzy]

I don't know if I did that on purpose or if that's just actually like, who I.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's like, I truly don't.

[Huzy]

You know what I mean? Because I'm like, I don't think I knew what they wanted from me. I think I was just.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, what about difference between season one, season two? Like, season two, do you think you were like, okay, like, I know my.

[Huzy]

Role, but season one, I was just like a friend of 100. Like, I was just your friend. And like, I was dating Dieter. But that was like a little side shoot. Like, I. That was not main storyline material. So I didn't know. Like, remember when season two started too? Like, we didn't even know who was a main character or anything until, like, deep into filming, until we went to do the promo shoots. And they're like, if you're here for one day, you're a friend of, and if you're here for two days, you're a main character.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I forgot about that.

[Huzy]

And that's how we found out if you were even a main character at all. Like, I never signed a fat contract or anything. I signed a little release.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, that's so interesting. I forgot about that.

[Jessica]

Do you guys Remember how fun that photo shoot was?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, my God. It was at the house on the beach.

[Jessica]

On the beach.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That was fun.

[Jessica]

The montage park right there.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, that's. But, like, that's the thing. Like, okay, you get the whole cast together, we're having the time of our freaking life, having so much fun. But then on the show, it's like we all hate each other, you know? Just goes to show you the difference. Yeah, but that was. That was a lot of fun. There were a lot of really fun memories. And I think, like, having prom and high school graduation filmed, like, that is pretty special, I have to say.

[Jessica]

There's so many good moments.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Funny moments, some dumb moments, you know, all good. But, yeah, it's fun. I know. It's wild that we all have that experience, that bond. And I love that 20 years later, you guys are in Nashville. We just had so much fun.

[Huzy]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's just.

[Alex]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jessica]

I feel like the last time, like. Like, we all obviously hung out with for the Uncommon James shoot.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And it's like we all get back together and it's like. Okay, right back.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And that was two years ago, the Uncommon James shoot. Right. Almost like a year and a half.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

It was January, right?

[Kristin Cavallari]

It was January. And before that, we hadn't seen each other in a minute, though, so.

[Alex]

Long time. Like, all of us together, too. Yeah.

[Huzy]

That was, like, such a blessing to do that because it, like, I think we all, like, reconnected when we wouldn't have. I don't think necessarily that was so much fun.

[Alex]

But the crew, too, like, us and then Talon and Jason and Steven, like, that was, like, such a natural group of people to have together, you know, like, we actually are. We're like. We're so close.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Alex]

So it's like the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jessica]

It's a special bond.

[Alex]

Like, totally.

[Jessica]

Not just for reality tv, but growing up in a small town, small high school. We all have, like, even people that weren't on the show. Very special bond.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I agree completely.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

There's something really special about Laguna beach. For sure.

[Huzy]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, I'll see you guys at the reunion. I'm counting down the days.

[Huzy]

I say we 4 planet.

[Alex]

Okay, but.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And by the way. No, we're not doing that.

[Huzy]

But it'd be so fun, though.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, but hold on. We should get, like, our little crew and do dinner before and then go. Yeah, we'll go together.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. Okay. But let's make sure someone is planning it.

[Alex]

No, someone Will step.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Has to be.

[Alex]

But they gotta do it, like, now. Like, my sister went to her. Yeah. A year ago, and, like, it was, like, hyped up for a year.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I know that, like, Stephen and. And Lauren's class is gonna be in September. Like, they're planning it.

[Huzy]

Okay, so are they not doing it? Like, so when I went to tenure, it was, like, over Thanksgiving weekend. That's why I went, because I was, like, visiting my grandparents.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So it sounds. I mean, maybe every year is different, but it sounds like 2004 is. Is having their reunion this September.

[Huzy]

Okay.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I don't know if we'll do our September whatever, but, yeah, I'm available.

[Huzy]

You know where they're having it?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I have no idea.

[Huzy]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Alex]

No. Oh, no. Steven. Like, Steven's reunion. Steven for 2004.

[Kristin Cavallari]

2004, yeah. Oh, where they're having it. I don't know, actually.

[Huzy]

Like, we had ours at the tenure at the women's club or something like that.

[Alex]

We should go crash the 04 reunion.

[Huzy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jessica]

Could you imagine?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Cameras up.

[Alex]

You don't belong here. I wouldn't want you. You guys have your own party. Our class is better, actually.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We don't want to go to that one.

[Alex]

That's kidding.

[Kristin Cavallari]

The lamest people on the planet. On that note, thanks for joining us.

[Alex]

Wrap it up. No, our class is like, we were. Oh. I mean, we had a fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We were the best.

[Alex]

We had a fun class.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, it was guys and girls. We were the best class.

[Alex]

I think so Stand by it. Yep. Yep.

[Huzy]

Well, and I. Even my sister teacher, who is two years younger, was, like, it started going downhill after y'all.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Sorry, guys. Yeah, sorry we had to leave.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Huzy]

And so I'm like, for her to even say that, like, she's not like, my class was great, and she's like, it's even worse after her class. Like, who knows what it's like even now.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Every year just gets worse. I'm like, sorry.

[Huzy]

We brought all the good vibes.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Thank you guys so much for coming and doing this.

[Alex]

This is so fun. Thank you.

[Huzy]

Thanks for having us.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Hey, you know, now we're gonna go make nice steak dinner, so we'll see you guys later.

[Huzy]

Thanks for listening.