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Kristin Cavallari
The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome in to another live bonus episode of let's be honest from the podcast tour. This is a good one. Today is a good one because it is the Season 2 cast of Laguna beach. And if you are watching honestly Cavalieri, then by now you've seen a little drama from this night. I just want you guys to know where my mindset was at this night. So I will say, coming off of doing two shows back to back, I looked back on both of those shows and I felt like they weren't going to be good episodes. I just. Things happened in both shows, both of the Chicago shows that were completely unexpected and it just sort of like took the wind out of my sails, you know, I was kind of feeling defeated after these shows and emotional and tired and drained and just. I was feeling a lot. But I will say, when I went back and listened to this episode, I actually absolutely loved it. I loved it. I was laughing. This Laguna crew, we have such a special bond. I love this crew with my life. And yes, Talon too. And I've. I said on the show, but, you know, Talon on its own wouldn't have been a big deal. Like, I can handle that. I mean, I think. Yeah. Was it like a little out of left field? Sure, but it's nothing that I can't handle. I think it was the combination of Talon and then my ex boyfriend Johnny right after and that just got me feeling really emotional also. So this show with the Laguna crew ran way over and in my head I was kind of stressed because I knew we were really far over and I knew I. I had to get ready for another show. But in between the first show and the second show, I had to do a meet and greet with 200 people. So I knew I was going to be racing around, pressed for time. I hate being late to anything and so I was just stressed on stage and it just. Honestly, I felt like I was, I don't know, like obviously I had in my head how the show was going to go and when you have a lot of people on stage, of course it's really hard to stay on track. And that was what happened. But it works. You know, I think it's a really funny, interesting episode and one that really could only be had with your group of friends from high school. I think it's very apparent, the history that we have. And I love that. I mean, I really do. These people are. Are my life. And also, by the way, shout out Alex Merle for dropping major fucking bombs in this show. Because it was really great draw dropping moments and I love her for it. I just love this crew so much. I think this is a really fun episode. And being in Chicago, I have such a special place in my heart for Chicago. I always have, always will. Because I lived there twice. All of my kids were born there. So anytime I go back, I get really excited. And this audience also was fucking amazing. I had a lot of friends and family here. My mom was here and it was just, you know, it was fun. While there were moments I wouldn't necessarily classify as fun, but overall I just love being in Chicago and I'm really happy that I got to spend it with the Laguna crew.
Talon
And.
Kristin Cavallari
And then next week's bonus episode is with Harry, Josie, and my first boyfriend ever, Johnny, which that one was a little bit more heartbreaking. But Harry is amazing. And so anyways, the Laguna crew, I love you guys and I hope you guys enjoy this episode. Okay, you guys obviously watched Laguna beach, right? Can we all just admit that season two was so much better? Way more personality. You guys, help me welcome the season two cast. Alex. Alex dressing on the paladin.
Alex Merle
And Jake.
Talon
Hay. Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
How excited are you guys? Holy. How good does everybody look?
Jessica
Wow, that is insane. Like, I cry. Oh my God. Like I seriously could cry.
Kristin Cavallari
This is crazy.
Alex Merle
Like 20 years later and you guys still care about little old us right here too much. I mean, not with that person.
Kristin Cavallari
Of course they care, you guys.
Jessica
Oh my God.
Kristin Cavallari
Ever. How are we feeling, you guys?
Talon
I just, I just want to say that I've been to a lot of play. All right, all right, listen. I just want to say that Chicago is the best motherfucking city in the United States, hands down.
Kristin Cavallari
I agree. All right, you guys, you know what I want to start with? I want to start with the bond that we have. Because it's been over 20 years since the show and since high school. We still, when we see each other, when we talk, even over our text messages, it's like no time has passed. Do you guys think that we have this incredible bond because we went to high school together or because we filmed a TV show together or because of both?
Talon
Ooh, that's a really good question.
Kristin Cavallari
Thank you. Talon.
Alex Merle
We knew Talon was.
Jessica
That was deep.
Kristin Cavallari
The hard headed question.
Alex Merle
Were we worried that Talon was gonna answer?
Kristin Cavallari
Talon's been drinking all day.
Talon
Wait, am I smiling? I'm sorry. I'm lit up. I'm sorry.
Alex Merle
Talon's fucking lit.
Talon
Let's fucking go.
Jason Waller
What was the question?
Kristin Cavallari
Can you guys hear me now?
Jason Waller
I can now. Go.
Jessica
No, I think it's. I think it's, like, a little bit of everything for real. But, I mean, we're, like, legitimately. In high school, we were a crew of people that were friends, but then having these moments and, like, being able to reconnect 20 years later and still hang out like a crew, like, no time has passed. Like, we're so lucky to have that. And it's all because of you, by the way, so thank you.
Kristin Cavallari
That's not true.
Alex Merle
Yeah, I also feel like we were friends first, which was really special about the show. Like, a lot of people are like, were you really friends? Like, yeah, we were friends first. And then the show came and found our group of friends, which is, like, so special that we get to, like, keep. And we're still rocking the red solo cups.
Jason Waller
That makes that you guys. Everybody but one.
Talon
Wait, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I. I have a different experience because obviously we were all friends. We were friends. We were friends, but, like. Like, we hung out. You, me, like, we hung out, but I feel like they made it.
Kristin Cavallari
Who are you talking about right now?
Jason Waller
Can you elaborate?
Alex Merle
Dude?
Talon
He entered, told me I had to talk to the audience and not look at Kristen, the whole thing, so. But wait, what? I'm going. Ro. I'm so sorry.
Jason Waller
Finish your story.
Talon
Well, I was just going to say that I feel like obviously we had, like, a thing, but I don't think it was as much of a thing as people thought it was, but it was because of the show. Get married because of the show. What? What'd you say?
Alex Merle
I'm crushed right now.
Talon
Oh, my God.
Kristin Cavallari
Keep going. Finish what you were going to say.
Talon
No, I'm just going to. I'm just going to say that I feel like we had a thing, but it was more like a casual thing, but the show made it feel like it was a.
Alex Merle
What is happening? I'm so confused.
Talon
Well, I took tequila shot.
Jason Waller
What is he trying to say?
Alex Merle
Talon?
Kristin Cavallari
What's going on right now?
Jason Waller
Elaborate.
Talon
Wait, are you saying that we had more than a casual thing? I'm just confused.
Kristin Cavallari
I'm trying to talk about the special wand we all have.
Talon
Oh, well, I love all of you guys. All right. Okay. But we.
Kristin Cavallari
Let's get to it. We can get to it. Can we just first, like, ease in.
Alex Merle
To all of this?
Kristin Cavallari
Jesus Christ. I need another shot.
Alex Merle
Bring me the bottle.
Jason Waller
Well, Alex and Jessica, we could talk about our special bond.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, we're gonna talk about everyone so special.
Talon
Raise a hand.
Kristin Cavallari
Special bond up Here, raise a hand.
Talon
Raise a hand if you hooked up with Jason. I'm just saying.
Jason Waller
Raise your hand. Dominic.
Alex Merle
Okay.
Kristin Cavallari
Who else in here is class of 05?
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
So we were just talking about this. There's something really special about our class, right? Like the year before us, kind of lame. The year under us, pretty lame.
Alex Merle
We were the fullest.
Kristin Cavallari
Class of 05 went hard.
Alex Merle
Why is that? I mean, I feel like we just.
Kristin Cavallari
Had a good pick of people.
Alex Merle
Like it was just a good grade. Like you wanted to be in our grade, you know, I know it sounds like so silly, but we had like good people. I don't know.
Talon
Wait, did we just say like the class above us was lame?
Alex Merle
I totally. I think it skipped years.
Kristin Cavallari
It did. It's like every other year was cool.
Alex Merle
Did you guys have that too?
Kristin Cavallari
Okay, sorry. If you're a class of 04 in.
Alex Merle
The middle or 06.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Alex Merle
Or 06.
Kristin Cavallari
We feel really bad. Okay, let's start with the show and then we're going to talk about our actual high school experience. But when the show comes up in conversation today, is it something that you guys are proud of or are you kind of embarrassed about it?
Jessica
I think nowadays proud. But like, ask me that 10, 15 years ago, it was embarrassing.
Alex Merle
But you were so funny. Like you were gonna always be proud.
Jessica
I didn't have like the weight you guys had.
Alex Merle
So me not as proud. I had some special moments on that show. Same to live with. But now having kids, I'm like, oh God, that was so cringy. Like, why did I do that? But you know, you live in your learn when you're 18. I mean, who knows what the hell.
Kristin Cavallari
You'Re doing at that point.
Alex Merle
But I'm changed now, guys. I'm changed.
Jessica
She's like really nice, sweet, nice. But you always were like, you weren't like, you were genuinely a really nice, fun, happy friend, Jessica. Well, I know, I know. But that was like the worst.
Kristin Cavallari
I know.
Alex Merle
No, no, we were good. I'm totally fine. You actually were like, fine. Yeah, no, we were fine.
Jessica
No.
Kristin Cavallari
You know what I liked about you, Alex? You were sweet and you were the most loyal, incredible friend on the planet. But if you crossed you, if someone crossed you, it was like, that's it, the gloves are off, dude.
Talon
Alex is. Alex Merle is the scariest girl. If you.
Alex Merle
I'm just telling her. I do agree, but I feel like that's where you and I were like kindred spirits. Cuz you were the same, 100%. And then like also we like knocked heads because we're, like, the same human, you know? But, yeah, it was fun.
Jason Waller
I'll say. The experience was. I mean, I was in a totally different place, mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually. And I mean, I was. I was.
Alex Merle
I don't feel like you should speak.
Talon
On this at all.
Kristin Cavallari
Well, no, but it's. But.
Jason Waller
But it's actually really cool to be able to look back, because I can say now that my greatest deficits have become my greatest assets now. And, I mean, somebody that, hey, give.
Talon
It up for Jason. This guy's killing it. Right?
Jason Waller
But.
Kristin Cavallari
But.
Jason Waller
But seriously, it's like, I look back and it's. Dude, obviously we were young and we were going through the motions of everything, but, like, it was. It was a really cool experience for me personally. I mean, to have our senior year documented, something we can always go back to. I mean, I ended up watching the show for the first time probably 15 years about a year ago, when Netflix put it back on, and I just could not believe it was. What a show, dude. I mean, it was. It was bad. I mean, but it was, like, cringeworthy. I don't know how the show had success that it did. I mean, never would today.
Kristin Cavallari
I swear, if Laguna Air today, it would not do well, but so much trouble.
Alex Merle
Like, I would also.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, we would all be canceled in two seconds.
Jason Waller
The.
Kristin Cavallari
That came out of our mouths.
Alex Merle
Oh, my gosh. Or if social media was around. A different time.
Kristin Cavallari
It was a different time.
Jason Waller
But I think in closing to it, though, I. I think it was an incredible experience. I mean, look at what we're able to do today and see where we're at, you know, and it's something to, like, reflect on, and. I don't know. I mean, it's been a wild ride. I mean, I don't know that I would do it again, but I'm very grateful.
Kristin Cavallari
I got cameras here.
Jason Waller
Okay, I forgot about that.
Jessica
Sorry. Okay. The hills and then the hills again.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Talon
But on that note, like, I'm super proud of everyone that's on the show because. I'm sorry, Kristen. I feel like I'm just interrupting. I'm just. I'm really proud. Like, Kristin's obviously built, like, a really successful business. She's extremely smart. We have a lot of people that have built, like, awesome families. You know, Jason's crushing it. Like, the guy is crushing it, and I'm just. I feel like the odds are against favor of people in shows. Like, someone's gotta slip. And I feel like our season. Nobody. What'd you say? Oh, ice blankets yeah. So good. Greatest blanket.
Alex Merle
My kids love that blanket.
Talon
Oh my gosh. I'm like the millennial mypillow guy. It's like, own that shit.
Kristin Cavallari
Take it to the bank, baby. What did you guys learn about yourselves doing the show?
Alex Merle
Oh, that's my favorite question.
Kristin Cavallari
Love it.
Alex Merle
I just feel like it's really. That's the one thing I would take away that was good was that you could look back and be like, ooh, I did not like that at all. And change that real, real quick.
Kristin Cavallari
So like, what exactly did you not.
Alex Merle
Like, like mostly everything.
Kristin Cavallari
No, like what? Give me an example. Everything.
Jessica
No, you were so cute on the show, Jessica. Everyone loves you.
Kristin Cavallari
An example. Like what was. Was something that you were like, okay, you're so.
Jessica
You're love.
Kristin Cavallari
They love you.
Alex Merle
Okay, so my best example right now is that my 12 year old loves Wednesday Adams and her formation of her is like, as being like a pick me girl. Does that make sense?
Kristin Cavallari
Understands what?
Jessica
Feel like that word's too trendy.
Kristin Cavallari
Is.
Talon
What is that?
Jessica
We're like so much older. Like that word's really for the young folk. Right, Whatever.
Alex Merle
I digress. Anyways, I just feel like I was able to see a lot of weird insecurities and weird things that I was able to be like, oh, that's not cute.
Kristin Cavallari
Look.
Alex Merle
And so you should probably stop that. So I appreciated the show just for that, so that I could be like, fix yourself a little bit, you know. I wouldn't say the same thing about it. Now I have a 14 year old whose friends talk about the show, so that's not a delight for me.
Kristin Cavallari
But really I'm trying to break into that demographic.
Talon
He's like, oh my God, your mom is.
Alex Merle
They don't even have to watch the whole thing. They just Google little tidbits and it's like watching.
Kristin Cavallari
They were like, it's so boring.
Jessica
That's what I thought. Yeah. No, my kids will not watch their.
Alex Merle
Friends come to them and they're like. So I'm like, okay, you guys are.
Talon
Like the hot moms now. It's like, oh my God, let's hope so.
Jessica
Oh, gosh, really?
Alex Merle
Life. Let's just be a hopping.
Kristin Cavallari
What did you guys learn about yourselves?
Talon
My posture is terrible. That's what.
Kristin Cavallari
I'm straight right now. Talon, sit up straight.
Talon
Well, you gave me the fucking.
Jessica
Jason.
Talon
You're supposed to please whoever's over here, get me on every time I fucking.
Jason Waller
I don't what I learned, like what I learned from the show, like looking.
Kristin Cavallari
Back, what about yourself?
Jason Waller
I mean, Everything. My whole life's completely changed. I mean, I was looking back, I can see how much I. I was super sick. I mean, I struggled severely with addiction. I mean, let's go. And. And I think this meeting.
Talon
Proud. Proud of you. I love that. I love that.
Jason Waller
But it's like. And I don't know, I think it's. It's cool for me to be able to, like I said, reflect back on what. What has happened in the past and see how much has changed. But like, I watched that. Like, when I said we went back and watched it, like, one of the things I took away from was just how sick I was. I mean, I was in the depths of this thing. And again, not justifying my behaviors, take full ownership and accountability. But, I mean, it's just what addiction can do to somebody, how it can rob you of everything. I mean, what you saw is somebody that was just lost, didn't have direction or clarity of where he was going. And the only way I saw out of it was through the bottle. And so it's a beautiful thing today now. And so for me, it's been a very big, growing experience.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, I know. Jason, you have the most inspiring story. I mean, really, he actually came on, let's be honest. If you haven't listened to it, go this too. That's a great episode. Nice. Is that the front row again? You guys are on it.
Jason Waller
I like the front row.
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Alex Merle
Petting my cat while making a fake phone call to J. The cat scene was next level. Remember, she's petting the cat on the balcony in the sad music, and she.
Jessica
Yeah, like me, like, looking out in the distance, petting her cat. That was up.
Kristin Cavallari
They have Jessica petting a cat, and they're like, hey, can you make out with this person? Person? Like, that's the difference.
Jessica
Like, what, just stand here and pet a cat? It's not weird at all.
Kristin Cavallari
Amazing.
Alex Merle
I feel like when we first shot the second season, we. Because they grouped. You and Huzy. I don't. Oh, and Jessica.
Kristin Cavallari
No, the three of us.
Alex Merle
No, I was trying to.
Kristin Cavallari
She's so nice.
Alex Merle
No, because we were all friends. And then, like, it was like Taylor and Morgan and I, they'd had us. I know we've, like, probably said the story a million times, but they're like, look across the street and pretend like you hate someone. And we were like, ooh. And like, not knowing.
Kristin Cavallari
Right. So they had to walk down the street. There was no one on the other side of the street. And they're like, look over at the producer and like, you know, mad. What's it called? Whatever the. And so we're, like, getting dirty looks like to the other side of the street, and there's no one there. And then they spliced it together. Like, we were, like, we were enemies.
Alex Merle
When we really, like, weren't. It just was like a show. Show enemy.
Jessica
Well, and I think it obviously, like, they would, like, feed you stuff. I know they're hot mess back there. Hello.
Kristin Cavallari
What are you.
Jessica
He's dipping. Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Did you just put a zin in your mouth. Are you kidding too? Jason.
Talon
Hey, that's my guy right there.
Jason Waller
Yeah. You know, I'm laughing because you guys had all these scenarios.
Talon
It was a team effort. It was a team effort. We were trying to be sly. We were trying to be slide. Y' all are like.
Kristin Cavallari
You weren't.
Jessica
No, that was at all.
Alex Merle
Not at all.
Talon
The entertainment loves nicotine sponsors.
Jason Waller
Yeah. 100.
Alex Merle
No, this is not the right audience.
Talon
I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Jason Waller
I was cracking up, though, cuz you guys had these experiences where they'd set you up in these scenarios. They would just get whatever they could for me. I would. I was so hammered the whole time. So it was never like, hey, can you go do this? It was just like, dude, push him into a room and let him see what he does.
Kristin Cavallari
Just roll on Jason all the time.
Jason Waller
Yeah. Total different experience.
Alex Merle
I feel like we had like a weird, like, pretend breakup on camera. Do you remember that?
Jason Waller
At the basketball court?
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
It was like, so awkward and I was. That wasn't real. Walk me through that scene.
Alex Merle
It was really, really real. So they said, come show up at 3 and go talk to Jason. When we had, like, we were already. I don't even know what it was that we had. It was just quick and over and. Yeah, casual. There you go. And, yeah, Jason did not want to talk at all.
Kristin Cavallari
I was like.
Jason Waller
That's the other thing. I didn't like, talk on the show. I was like a mute.
Alex Merle
We're trying to, like, break up on camera. And it was. Yeah, was a little awkward.
Kristin Cavallari
Who was breaking up with who?
Talon
I'll guarantee that Alex broke up with Jason.
Alex Merle
No, Jason was like, peace. Like, you're. He was too full.
Jessica
And then going back to Jessica.
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, that checks out. Okay, wait, Tal. Let's talk about us. Let's.
Talon
Let's go, girl. I'm ready. Let's go.
Alex Merle
Yes.
Kristin Cavallari
Can we talk about prom senior year?
Talon
Because, yes.
Kristin Cavallari
To this day. And I know I watched it like a year and a half ago or whatever when Steven and I were doing the Back to the beach podcast. And we may have even talked about this, but I've forgotten.
Talon
Did we really? That's fucked up, by the way, that you forgot. Like, it wasn't a special memory in your mind.
Kristin Cavallari
I know we went together, but I'm saying, did we really go together or was that for the show? Because wasn't I dating hotspot?
Talon
Well, okay. I'm gonna be straight up. Straight up. So the show was like, Adam d' Bello was Like, yo, you should ask Kristen to prom. And I was living in LA at the time, which was like, that's a whole story in itself.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, no, let's talk about it.
Talon
Oh, we're gonna get into that.
Kristin Cavallari
All right, we'll get. Let's talk about prom first. And then.
Talon
Okay. Yes. But basically, like, like, hey, you should ask Kristen to prom. I'm like, oh, that sounds really terrible. I definitely.
Jessica
What the Rude.
Talon
I'm just. You asked me to be. This is honestly Kristen, right? He doesn't know the whole show.
Kristin Cavallari
Let's be honest.
Jessica
Let's be honest.
Kristin Cavallari
You got it.
Talon
Nailed it. I mean, of course, like, I wanted to ask you to prom. And I was like. I was like, yeah, I'll ask Kristen to prom. And of course, I did, like, the nice guy thing. I was the nice guy in high school, right? I was like, now you're a bad boy. Well, I'm like, look at that mullet.
Kristin Cavallari
Look at this bad boy zinning and has a mullet. Oh, my God.
Alex Merle
I know.
Talon
I'm like, I'm slowly turning into a Montana boy, like, before everyone's out.
Jessica
That was so last year, by the way. Hello. We moved on for another.
Talon
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Jason Waller
Yes, that was good.
Talon
But. But basically, what's. I'm so sorry, Kristen. I am so. Dude. Okay, so anyway, back to the story. Nigel's. So they were like, yo, you gotta ask her. I never forget. I walked in, your dad was there, and I was like. I had, like, the roses and the freaking. The prom thing because I was, like, so excited. I'm like, oh, my God. I get to go to prom with Kristin Cavallari. I'm serious.
Kristin Cavallari
Just said you didn't want to ask me.
Talon
No, no, no, no, no.
Jessica
Hold on.
Talon
Let me clear it up. I just thought you would never, like, you would never go with me. I wouldn't. What? What happened?
Alex Merle
Oh, Talon.
Talon
I know, I know which story. I just thought. I just thought you would never go with me. So I was like, hey, you're gonna ask Kristen a problem? Like, oh, that sounds awesome. And then I, you know, I asked you the, you know, in my, like, little, like, soft, you know, nice guy way. I know, but, like, girls in high school don't appreciate. No, you're like, oh, what's this soft dude dude doing? Like, you're like, if he was a. You'd be like, hell, yeah, this guy's awesome.
Kristin Cavallari
That's true. But because my point is, obviously, yes, we went together. I thought it was more like Show. You know from the show. Because I swear I was dating hot Sam. But then I think I heard you did not. He hooked up with someone else prom night.
Alex Merle
We talked about that today.
Jessica
Jessica.
Kristin Cavallari
Guys.
Jessica
Jessica.
Alex Merle
Jessica. Listen, I can't say anything.
Jessica
Wait, so did you go to prom with Sam?
Talon
I don't remember.
Kristin Cavallari
No. Because he wouldn't film. So that's why.
Jessica
Okay, okay, okay, that's my point.
Alex Merle
Wait, Talon. Didn't you and Jeff Boyle ask us both in monkey suits?
Jessica
And that was me and you. Yeah.
Talon
What's going on here?
Kristin Cavallari
Okay, but here's my question because when I watched it back, Talon, I watched that episode and I was like holy. I was such an asshole to you.
Jessica
You.
Talon
Yes you were.
Alex Merle
I was.
Kristin Cavallari
And I felt really bad so I.
Talon
Well I was like dude, this is awesome. I'm going to prom with Kristen. And then I watched it back and you're like where the is talent? And I was like dude, she did not want to go with me. This is.
Alex Merle
Well because I thought it was just.
Talon
For the show but it wasn't for me.
Kristin Cavallari
I didn't know that. Anyways, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Because it broke my heart to see what a I was when I watched it back. I'm sorry.
Talon
You know what? We were young and I feel like it's interesting. Like young relationships are so like they're just not even real. They're not even real.
Kristin Cavallari
They were real to me.
Jason Waller
I want to know what you learned from from the show.
Talon
Oh, I love that. Oh I love that.
Alex Merle
Oh, good question.
Kristin Cavallari
Well, kind of what you guys said earlier is that it does force you to take a hard look in the mirror. And I remember a 17, 18 year old kid has no idea who they are. But it did make me take a look in the mirror and be like I don't think think I'm this person but I want to make sure I'm definitely not. So I do think it kind of like helped me grow up a little bit and maybe like knock that snotty little right out of me.
Jason Waller
Yes, there you go.
Jessica
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Talon. Oh, I'm not done with you yet. While we're talking about you dropping out.
Talon
Of high school, whatever happened with your what?
Kristin Cavallari
Why did your album never come out my al. Wait, what you done in Hollywood? Artist what happen?
Talon
By the way, I'm out of beer. It's kind of up. I'm looking side skate. Where's my beer?
Kristin Cavallari
Hey, didn't you move up to la? You dropped out of high school senior year halfway through.
Talon
I am Going to try my, my. Well, gosh, I'm going to try my best to make a long story short.
Alex Merle
Oh, no.
Talon
Cuz I don't know how to do this.
Jessica
Oh yeah, that's going to happen. Short story long. Go.
Talon
No, I think, I think the interesting thing.
Alex Merle
Somewhere down somewhere.
Jason Waller
What was the name of it?
Talon
So I will say this, I will say that. No. Who is that right there? Let's go, girl. What's up? What's up? I'll tell you guys this. I think a lot of people don't know this is that I actually wasn't in high school. Like a lot of the second season. Season of the show.
Jessica
He was in LA trying to.
Talon
I lived in la. Yeah, it was wild.
Jessica
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Like, oh, yeah, Alex, Huzy and I know. We were up there visiting you.
Talon
I know, I know, I know. Jason, Alex and Kristen would visit me and I drive down and be like, oh, I'm just like in high school now. What's up?
Jessica
You would drive down to filming.
Talon
Yeah, no, I was. Here's the thing. Do you want the real. The real story is I was so smart that I graduated early. No, not what happened. That's not what happened. No, I just. You know what happened? I. I broke my knee playing football and I was like, you know what? I just want to like. Oh, my God, Alex is laughing. She's making fun of me right now. I just know it. Here she goes. It's like high school. It's like high school all over again. This.
Jason Waller
All right.
Kristin Cavallari
You were recording.
Talon
Oh, my God. I told you I was making a long story short. And here I am, like, talking, right? Two minutes about some.
Jason Waller
That's a good story, man.
Talon
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
We even get the whole story. We don't.
Jessica
We didn't get the answer.
Kristin Cavallari
I don't. Did we?
Talon
Oh, the album thing. Yeah, it was a weird time. So, like, I.
Jason Waller
They're seeing it, dude.
Talon
They're see. No, I'm definitely not seeing this.
Alex Merle
One verse of Summer Dead in Hollywood.
Talon
Oh, my God, Alex. No, no, no. I don't want this to go viral.
Kristin Cavallari
Can I ask you another question? I'm scared.
Talon
Yes, please. I feel like. Okay, no, you know what?
Kristin Cavallari
I'm gonna go to Hoozy for this one because she was there. Okay. So I have talked about this story on the podcast. I think I've said it in multiple interviews too. My Lindsay Lohan story.
Talon
Oh, my God.
Kristin Cavallari
So who, Z and I decide to ditch school. You don't need any more alcohol.
Jessica
It was probably like on a Thursday day, you know, as one Does.
Kristin Cavallari
So we go and up to LA to stay with Talon and we go out and we're all sleeping. And I'm sleeping in bed with Talon.
Talon
Yeah, we're all. We're all sleeping is what we're doing.
Kristin Cavallari
We were. We did not hook up this night. I had a long sleeve shirt on. I'll never forget it.
Talon
Oh my God.
Kristin Cavallari
Fully clothed.
Jason Waller
Is that true?
Kristin Cavallari
Tal like you guys shut the upper. So at 4am we're all sleeping. And who breaks into Talon's house? Lindsay Lohan.
Jessica
Like in a storm.
Kristin Cavallari
It was. She comes in, sees that I'm in bed with Talon. Not sleeping.
Talon
We're sleeping. We're sleeping where we were sleeping. I know Talon.
Kristin Cavallari
What was happening?
Talon
I'm supposed to engage the audience. I don't mean to not look at you.
Kristin Cavallari
You're just trying to create your own headline lines which I guess is the point of the store. We were not sleeping. No, we were sleeping. And she sees that there's a girl in bed with talent and she freaks the out. So before I finish the story, I want to know what happened with you and Lindsay Lohan.
Talon
You're such a. I'm so upset.
Kristin Cavallari
Let's be honest.
Talon
You're like talent. Don't make a headline. What happened between you and Lindsay?
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, we're making headlines.
Jessica
She looks so good by. Listen, I had a Lindsay Lohan. I mean come on. She looks amazing.
Kristin Cavallari
Like blow up that she freaked out that there was a girl in bed with you.
Talon
Honestly, Lindsay. Lindsay's a really talented, really smart girl.
Alex Merle
Here's your 45 minute answer about Lindsay Lohan.
Talon
Go ahead, Talon, what you say? The point is that. Well, she, she left out. Listen, more than just telling you what I feel about Lindsay Lohan because she's a very talented girl. Is that the story? She, she cut the story short is what it is. I'm gonna tell the rest.
Kristin Cavallari
Gonna finish it. I wanted to know what happened with you guys to make it so she.
Alex Merle
Had the reaction that she did.
Talon
We hung out.
Kristin Cavallari
Clearly.
Talon
Yes, we hung out. Nothing. Nothing.
Kristin Cavallari
Clearly something happened.
Talon
Yeah, no, I mean she was, you know, she was like.
Kristin Cavallari
It's honestly Kristen, right?
Talon
I'm gonna bleed the fifth. Here, here we go. Here.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. So obviously something happened with them. So she sees that I'm in bed, she goes upstairs, her and her girlfriends. And where are you at this point? You're sleeping in bed with Frankie?
Jessica
Yeah, I was in a bed. I was sleeping in a bed.
Kristin Cavallari
Bring out Frankie.
Jessica
It's okay. It's okay. Okay.
Alex Merle
Oh God.
Jessica
Yeah, bring him out. No. Yes. I was there. So I can.
Kristin Cavallari
At what point in this did you wake up? Because she goes upstairs into the kitchen, and she's taking glasses and throwing them.
Talon
They were plates. They were plates.
Jessica
Well, that's. That's what woke us up was the. It was like, Frankie, like, you just heard, like, going on, like, bashing and screaming and everything. So Frankie jumps out, because I think he probably had thought, like, someone was, like, breaking in or something. It was insane. But. Yeah. So he jumps out of bed and goes to see what was going on.
Kristin Cavallari
He was trying to calm her down, like it was one of you guys. We're in high school still. Like, we're 18. Like, what the fuck is going on with Hollywood? Hollywood is crazy.
Jessica
And that was just normal. Like, we would do that, like, on a Thursday, and then we would, I think, like, drive back and, like, go to, like, the last period of school on, like, the next day. Yeah, like, we're here. Sorry, we only just half day.
Talon
Apc.
Kristin Cavallari
That's not normal.
Talon
Well, I was an ap. Hey, I took an AP class. It was AP Ceramics.
Alex Merle
That was AP Ceramics.
Jessica
Bye, Bill.
Alex Merle
Darnella, Coffee. And you get an A.
Kristin Cavallari
Relax, talent. You also dated Nicole Scherzinger, didn't you?
Talon
What is happening?
Kristin Cavallari
To attempt.
Jessica
Show us her tattoo talent she had.
Kristin Cavallari
Show us your tits.
Jessica
Take it off.
Talon
Listen, listen. It's gone. It's gone. I covered it, girl.
Kristin Cavallari
What is it? Did you get a laser or did you cover.
Talon
I got an eagle covered it.
Alex Merle
What is it?
Kristin Cavallari
What is it?
Talon
It's an eagle. It's an eagle. Listen, girl. No, you don't want it. I promise. You don't want it. I promise. I'm. I'm almost 40. Like, shit's not good as you think.
Kristin Cavallari
Jason, did you have any celebrity hookups that we don't know about?
Talon
Hi, Jason. Welcome to your part of the show.
Jason Waller
I'm enjoying watching you, bud.
Alex Merle
My girl crush. Who I can't say. He has a son.
Jason Waller
Yeah, I can't do that.
Talon
Lauren Conrad. No.
Alex Merle
Come on, Jason.
Jessica
I know. I feel like.
Kristin Cavallari
Who whispered in my ear?
Jessica
Say it into the microphone.
Talon
I feel like Jason was, like, dated a lot of reality stars. Like, you were, like, a reality guy.
Kristin Cavallari
What reality?
Talon
I don't know. Do I not know what I'm talking about?
Alex Merle
What's.
Talon
What was like a.
Kristin Cavallari
Did you girls have any celebrity hookups? We don't.
Talon
Oh, hell, yeah. Ask Alice, Merle, Oscar, who you hook.
Kristin Cavallari
Up with that we don't know about.
Alex Merle
Do you really? This is kind of like a bad one.
Kristin Cavallari
We love we love. Well, there's.
Alex Merle
There's two. So one. Nick Carter.
Jessica
I remember that phase. I remember that phase. I was around.
Kristin Cavallari
I don't like it.
Alex Merle
Probably wasn't like it, you know, I don't know. I don't know. It's probably what you would all imagine it to be like, dirty.
Kristin Cavallari
Like rough and dirty.
Jessica
It was during his like, like that stage, the not so snatched stage for him.
Alex Merle
And one time I was at a club and I think it was you or I forget it was one of our. One of us. I was like making out with Pauly Shore. That was so bad. So bad.
Jason Waller
I wouldn't tell people that. Alex.
Alex Merle
I was so embarrassed. I think ripped me off and was like, do you even know what you're doing? This is like so embarrassing bad anymore. I didn't even know who he was. That was the worst part.
Talon
Maybe like, Alex, this is. Is the time when you say, like, yeah, I. These really good looking dudes, like Polish short.
Alex Merle
You guys, I am not afraid to admit that LA was dark days for me.
Kristin Cavallari
I get it. I get it.
Talon
She's all about. She's all about personality. It was a personality.
Jason Waller
That's next level right there.
Kristin Cavallari
Personality.
Alex Merle
I do. I like her laugh. Great. You know what?
Kristin Cavallari
That's true. Laughter goes a long way with Alex. That's great. Yeah, right? Okay, so the show obviously was really fun. We got to go to pool parties, hook up with Polly Shore. Like, times were great, you know, so fun. But our high school experience was awesome. That was next level, you guys.
Jason Waller
100.
Kristin Cavallari
What was your favorite part about high school?
Alex Merle
Sometimes I wish we could go back to high school. I loved it so much.
Talon
Yeah, but Alex, you said this earlier today. Like, I think a lot of people wouldn't go back to high school. We would all go back in 10.
Jessica
It was so fun. We're so. Yeah, yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
You know.
Alex Merle
You know what else I think, like we took for like granite was growing up in that.
Kristin Cavallari
In Laguna.
Alex Merle
Like, I don't live in Laguna anymore. But when I go into town, I'm like, this place looks like Hawaii.
Jason Waller
Another one.
Alex Merle
There's no idea it's going on here.
Kristin Cavallari
Tell them we have to go out tonight. You need to pace yourself.
Talon
Sorry. I'm sorry.
Jessica
The next cup. It's like straight tequila in there.
Talon
But I'm on my third drink.
Jason Waller
I got, I got, I got him. I got you, buddy.
Talon
Like, oh, my God. What happened with Lindsay Lohan and Nicole? I'm like, I got to have drink more drink.
Kristin Cavallari
Keep drinking and then we'll come back to that. So you can tell us what happened with you guys?
Jessica
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Alex Merle
Tell us the truth. After you've had a few more of those, please.
Talon
What you say?
Jessica
What was your.
Alex Merle
After you've had a few more of.
Jessica
Those, what's your favorite memory from high school? And, like, pre Lagona or a. Like, whatever.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, like pre show or after. It's hard to pick one memory. I think, honestly, just, we had so much fun in high school. Like, I look back and I'm like, yeah.
Jessica
I'm like.
Kristin Cavallari
But I'm like, we did it right, you know? And, like, we were wild, but I don't regret anything. We had so much fun, and it was such a beautiful place to grow up and do everything that we were doing. And we're all lucky to be alive, quite honestly, but it was the best. And we have these friendships that we've had for over 20 years, and that, to me, says a lot.
Jason Waller
No, I agree with you. I think, looking back, like, I summarize my story not to be contradicting about everything I said, because high school was really. It was fun, but, like, I always tell people from, like, my addiction story. At first, drinking and using was fun, became a lifestyle, and then it became a way of survival. But, like, the high school years was definitely the fun part. And I'm just. Every weekend. It was always every. It was every weekend. It was consistent with us all hanging out and getting together and just. It was. It was fun.
Talon
Yet you're seeing next to real. That was the third drink.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, tell him. What are you mumbling back there?
Talon
I'm always mumbling. Fuck. I just said sitting next to the guy who's, like, got three fucking red solo caps. I love Jason, though. I'm so fucking proud of this guy.
Kristin Cavallari
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Alex Merle
You guys tell us.
Talon
Yeah.
Jason Waller
How was it? How was Chicago?
Talon
Yeah, but everyone here is not from Chicago. Everyone visiting to come see the show. I started high school Chicago, Shan.
Kristin Cavallari
I started high school school here at Barrington High School, you guys.
Alex Merle
Barrington may go harder than Laguna.
Kristin Cavallari
I remember my freshman year, so I moved to Laguna October of my freshman year. My friend Kelsey. Kelsey, are you here? No. Great. Our freshman year of high school in the Bathroom during lunch. And she was cutting up Adderall to snort. And she was like, do you want it?
Alex Merle
I was like, no.
Kristin Cavallari
Oh, my God, I'm so scared right now. Things changed when I moved to Laguna.
Jessica
I feel like that would have been a thing. Yeah. Like.
Kristin Cavallari
But I was like, so I think it's universal. I think everyone's fucking crazy.
Jessica
If that would have appeared in a high school party, I would have been like, great. Thank you.
Kristin Cavallari
Thank you for that.
Jessica
But you know who has credit for, like, us meeting is Alex Merle. I know, because you two at Driver Z. Yeah. Yeah. She came and she was like, you guys, I met the coolest girl.
Kristin Cavallari
Within.
Alex Merle
The first two hours. It's like, hey, like, we're going to a party tonight. You want to come over to my house and get ready? And she's like, yeah, I will. And you kind of, like, think they're not gonna say that? And Chris was like, sure. What time? When am I coming? I was like, ready to party? Here we go. Off to another party.
Kristin Cavallari
What was the worst thing that everybody did in high school? If you can say it. I don't know.
Talon
What'd you say?
Alex Merle
Wait.
Kristin Cavallari
What's the worst thing everyone did in high school?
Jason Waller
What's time?
Alex Merle
I feel like.
Talon
What does that mean? Does that mean, like, height? Is that, like, high school standards? What's the worst thing you've ever done? Or, like, what's the worst thing you've.
Jason Waller
Done, like, during that age bracket?
Talon
Yeah, that's a big question.
Kristin Cavallari
During that age bracket, like, that time period.
Talon
Well, my daughter is not having sex until she's 19 and older. 100. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Jessica
No, I think, like, I had a party once, and I brought the cops to the house, but my dad was there, which was cool, but it was like. Yeah, but it felt bad. Like, I thought. I don't know that. But it's like, cops always came to the party. That's when the party was over. You're like, it's busted. We gotta go. That's not bad. No, I have to, like, put my mind there.
Kristin Cavallari
I did drugs.
Jessica
Well, okay. I was like, how far are we going? Yeah, drugs. I mean, I feel like the drugs.
Kristin Cavallari
Mom, where are you? Oh, no one else cares to show, sir. That's fine.
Alex Merle
I'll take that. I think I got.
Kristin Cavallari
I think.
Talon
Wait, hold on. What was the question? What's the worst thing I've done in high school?
Kristin Cavallari
I know. Yeah.
Talon
Wait, what'd you say? I feel like someone said their own.
Kristin Cavallari
Stories.
Talon
Well, I've had three solo cups here, so, you know, things are good.
Kristin Cavallari
But. Okay, you guys don't have to answer.
Talon
But okay, what is the worst?
Alex Merle
Wait, I dated my daughter.
Jessica
But, like, after. After.
Kristin Cavallari
Not during high school.
Jessica
Not dirt.
Alex Merle
Oh, my God.
Kristin Cavallari
That's right. Holy.
Talon
You just dropped that.
Alex Merle
He wasn't like. Like a grown adult.
Jessica
That sounded so bad at first, though. Oh, my God. Can we say his name?
Alex Merle
He was like, my boyfriend for seven.
Kristin Cavallari
Years of the desk.
Alex Merle
Yeah, he was hot.
Kristin Cavallari
You bring that up? He was so hot.
Alex Merle
Yeah. That was, like, the big secret. I'm not bringing that up.
Talon
I mean, that's his juice. Remember? Remember when I got up, Dude, What? You dated the water pole coach?
Alex Merle
Oh, my God, you guys. He was like. You know how hot the water pullers are.
Talon
He did. Okay. I'm throwing it back, but he was my boyfriend.
Alex Merle
For. It wasn't like a. Like a bad. Like, it was like. He was. I was like, what, 17 and 19?
Talon
He was 47.
Alex Merle
19.
Kristin Cavallari
I don't know, Kristen. Oh, right.
Alex Merle
Yeah. Oh, but he definitely wasn't, like, old enough to make it feel scary.
Jessica
Is that it wasn't creepy?
Jason Waller
Wasn't he, like, 45?
Alex Merle
We were. We were dating all the same guy. Like, James Wood. It was the same group.
Kristin Cavallari
Oh, my God. I forgot about James Wood.
Alex Merle
James Wood.
Kristin Cavallari
Shout out James Wood.
Talon
Hear that, dude? Dude was all you girls love that dude like crazy.
Kristin Cavallari
Oh, my God, guys, we were nuts. Where the hell were our parents? I didn't live with my mom. It's not on my mom. It's on my dad.
Talon
Well, there was. By the way, I just met your mom tonight. I freaking love her.
Jessica
My mom's only got Judy. We love Judy. She's the best.
Jason Waller
Where is Mom?
Jessica
I love Mama.
Kristin Cavallari
Dude.
Alex Merle
She also looks like she's, like, 35. So that's not as awesome.
Kristin Cavallari
No, she's awesome. But where were our people, parents? Like, we would always be like, dad, I'm spending the night at Alex's. And we'd just be out till 5am and then we'd call our parents. Really big. We just woke up. We need to come home.
Alex Merle
I had my own, like, phone line, so I would, like, leave the voice, right? I was like, hey, reach the Merles. Leave a message. But it was like, my phone.
Jessica
So we would just say, like, we would each be sleeping at each other's houses. Yeah. We were really so bad.
Kristin Cavallari
So smart.
Jason Waller
I think there was two times. Do you guys remember when the teacher broke his arm?
Kristin Cavallari
No.
Jason Waller
You don't remember that?
Jessica
Which one?
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Talon
The teacher?
Jason Waller
Yeah, I pushed the guy over and the teacher, oh, no, I didn't do it. The guy fell into him and he broke his arm. So that was. That was one of the incidences. Or when I got kicked off baseball. We got hammered on the bus. We're smoking cigs in the back.
Kristin Cavallari
That'll do it.
Jason Waller
Didn't make it.
Talon
I miss cigarettes so much.
Kristin Cavallari
Well, you're zinning. You should be fine back there.
Talon
I'm a zen guy. I'm a zen guy. That's my guy right there, though. Right there.
Kristin Cavallari
Do you guys have any regrets?
Alex Merle
I mean, I do, I think.
Talon
Okay, I do, I do, I do.
Alex Merle
We're talking about the show. We're talking about high school.
Kristin Cavallari
Or either one regret on the show or just in high school.
Alex Merle
I mean, like, Cabo was awful. Same.
Kristin Cavallari
The episode is Cabo. Cuz you guys were fighting. It got a little dark.
Alex Merle
It's a little scary.
Kristin Cavallari
It wasn't everyone's best moment.
Alex Merle
No.
Talon
Yeah.
Jessica
You guys can like, tick tock that now though.
Alex Merle
We are going.
Jessica
There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have.
Talon
Honestly, my. My biggest regret is not being a in high school. I feel like I would have got way more chicks if I was like me in high school. Like, I feel like I was the nice guy and girls were like, oh, sick. Like, I'll just friend zone you. I was like, cool. Sick. And then Jason came along. He's like the bad boy. Like, yeah, this guy's hot as hell.
Kristin Cavallari
Jason was the bad boy. Getting all the ladies. Speaking of here, who here? Who is hooked up with who?
Talon
Oh, boy.
Kristin Cavallari
Everyone thinks Jason and I have hooked up. We've never hooked up.
Talon
That is wild. I don't believe it for a second. I do not believe that. I just don't.
Kristin Cavallari
And then.
Jessica
No, I believe that.
Alex Merle
I believe that 100%.
Talon
Let's just play a game. It's really simple. There's two guys. There's two guys and there's four girls. Ready? Raise your hand if you've hooked up with Jason Waller. That means, like, made out with Jason Waller. Made out. Made out 20 years ago.
Jessica
Raise your hand if you've kissed.
Talon
Did you? Raise your hand.
Kristin Cavallari
Raise your hand if you hooked up with me. Me.
Jessica
No, I'm kidding.
Talon
Wait, you guys have things.
Alex Merle
What?
Talon
Well, you just said, who hooked up with you? And they're like, Alex is like, yes.
Jessica
Like, we've kissed.
Talon
Wait, what?
Kristin Cavallari
It's like what you do when you're young to, like, impress the guys.
Talon
Sick.
Kristin Cavallari
You guys don't do that.
Talon
Well, that's awesome. That's.
Alex Merle
Alan didn't have that happen. They weren't trying to impress you.
Talon
I'm not really into lesbian stuff. Like, like, this is. Get me off. Wait.
Kristin Cavallari
Let's define what hookup means. Because I actually get this question probably the most when it comes to like the show and everything. Because we threw the word hookup around like it was nothing. What does hookup mean? Like in high school, what did it mean?
Talon
Finger bang.
Jessica
I was going to say make out.
Talon
I'm like, the boring innocent is so mad at me.
Kristin Cavallari
I'm not mad at you. I love you.
Jason Waller
Oh, my God.
Kristin Cavallari
Keep going.
Talon
I feel like if I touch a woman's vagina, that counts. Even if it's over the yoga pants, you know, like, that was like a big deal, you know?
Kristin Cavallari
But we said it when we just made out with someone too. Hookup.
Alex Merle
Men make out. Plus, mostly make out. I feel like we would say.
Jessica
I would say make out.
Kristin Cavallari
We did more.
Alex Merle
They were like. To each other. We would say, like, oh, we hooked up. Like, we would say what that was like, hooked up.
Jessica
Like, I feel like it. Like graduates. Like freshman year, it's like make out by senior year, it's like, more.
Jason Waller
Speak for yourself.
Talon
Watching over the yoga. That's what I was saying.
Kristin Cavallari
Every year it carries more weight. I think it was anything from making out to having sexual intercourse.
Alex Merle
I agree.
Talon
No, but like, when you came, you were like. You were like the varsity as a freshman.
Jason Waller
You too.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, I lost my virginity in eighth grade in Chicago.
Talon
Oh, yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Johnny, come on out. No, I'm just kidding. That's the next show. How old was everybody else when they lost their virginity?
Alex Merle
Oh, listen, I have a 14 year old son. I don't need this information this year. Yeah, my. Thank you so much. I declined.
Kristin Cavallari
Isn't that crazy to think about?
Alex Merle
Yeah, I think I was like, I was a freshman.
Kristin Cavallari
Freshman.
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Jessica
Yeah, I was a freshman. You did it right before me.
Alex Merle
I remember.
Jessica
Well, we all talked about it.
Alex Merle
I was like, I think because you.
Jessica
I know. Yeah. You need this moral support of friends. It's a big deal. It happens.
Jason Waller
Yeah, I think it was 13. 13 or 14.
Kristin Cavallari
Oh, my God.
Jessica
With who?
Talon
I was like putting my dick in shampoo bottles. What the are you talking about? Did you do that? Well, I was like. I was like 11.
Kristin Cavallari
Small hole.
Jessica
Oh, my God.
Talon
It was fitting in shampoo bottles.
Jessica
Come on, Talon. Kristen. Is it bigger? No.
Talon
Hey, you guys know my. Does not fit in a damn shampoo bottle. You guys know. Hello, people.
Jason Waller
Oh, my God.
Alex Merle
Dude.
Jason Waller
I was 4.
Talon
I was 4. I was. I was 14.
Kristin Cavallari
Jason, how old were you?
Talon
What? He said 13.
Jason Waller
13 or 14?
Talon
I mean, Jason's had a beard since he was, like, 10.
Jason Waller
Yeah, I came out of the womb with a mustache.
Kristin Cavallari
Losing your virginity? Losing your virginity.
Alex Merle
Don't tell me that.
Jason Waller
Can't even look at. Tell him the same. No.
Alex Merle
Talon.
Talon
What? I'm so nervous. Oh, my God. Here we go. I'm so nervous.
Kristin Cavallari
Someone told me that you have dating advice for me. I'm so scared.
Alex Merle
Right.
Talon
Okay, so here's what I think. I. And I'm gonna address the audience as well as you.
Kristin Cavallari
Wonderful.
Talon
Obviously, you're very beautiful and you're very, you know, successful. Stop laughing.
Jason Waller
I can't help it.
Talon
Drink. Should I drink? That's what you're saying? Okay. That is pure tequila, by the way. Who's drinking pure tequila on this stage? What is happening?
Jessica
Jesus.
Talon
I stole all their drinks. I just feel like. I feel like this. Okay. You're very powerful. You're very. Hold on. Just take the compliment and hear me out for a second. Okay? I feel like you're very powerful. You're very, you know. I don't know what the word is. Like, no, hold on. I feel like you need. Okay, here's the best. I feel like. I feel like Christian is a guy who, like, who, like, takes control and it makes her feel. It makes her feel, like, feminine and, like, it could be little things, like ordering dinner. It could be, like, things like, here's where we're going. Or like, here's what we're doing. Like, I just feel like you need. And I also think this is what my daughter calls it, her chichi. She's four. I feel like you need to stop thinking with your chi chi and. And more with your. Your. Your head. But I don't blame you.
Alex Merle
The chi chi can have fun, too.
Talon
It gets true. It's true.
Alex Merle
You need both. Come on.
Kristin Cavallari
Chichi was living her life last year.
Jessica
Okay?
Kristin Cavallari
Chichi was living her best life. No, I agree with you.
Alex Merle
100. He's coming.
Kristin Cavallari
He's coming.
Jason Waller
What are you looking for in a guy?
Kristin Cavallari
I mean, that. I think my life is really intimidating for a lot of guys, so it's been hard because everything is a threat. It's. It's hard to find our actual confident man. It just is.
Talon
No, it's so funny. Like, I was ordering dinner for these girls, and they were like, oh, you're ordering dinner? I was like, what the. Dude, we're ordering dinner. Insane things. I shouldn't say. Hi, guys, pause.
Jessica
I'M so lost. You're like.
Alex Merle
You, like, need, like, your tech boy era. Like. Like. Yeah, like computers.
Jessica
No, no, not a door.
Alex Merle
He just, like, created an app. And, like. Like, he's living his best, but he, like.
Jessica
Like a low key. Like a low key.
Alex Merle
And he's like. I feel confident in myself.
Jessica
Someone in the B club.
Kristin Cavallari
Like Miranda Kerr's husband.
Alex Merle
That's exactly what I mean.
Jason Waller
I think you need somebody.
Alex Merle
You just gotta find, like a cute. I need a billionaire cute one.
Jessica
Exactly. You gotta go to the B club. You can do it.
Kristin Cavallari
It's hard, guys. Slim pickings out there. Well, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my.
Talon
All right. Can I say something? I feel like your list. I see you on social media. I feel like your list is, like, very long.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah. Because my life is so good that I'm not gonna settle for anything.
Jessica
No.
Talon
And I get it. I get it, girl. I get it. And I don't think you. I think. I don't think you should settle.
Kristin Cavallari
I'm so close to finding exactly what I want.
Jessica
He's close.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Jessica
That's the way to put it. You're like. It exists. It's out there. Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
He's out there. He's coming.
Talon
He's in Chicago. He's at the.
Kristin Cavallari
He might be. I'm also back on Raya. What the fuck?
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Jessica
I wanted to be passing time. I always wanted to see the. Just what it looks like. Like, can you show us later what Ryan looks like?
Alex Merle
There's.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah.
Alex Merle
Just wanted to, like, scroll through with you.
Jessica
I just want to, like, look. Yeah. Like, just a little.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay, wait. Who's been talking to Hot Sam recently? Anyone know how hot Merle does?
Alex Merle
I talk. I talk to him.
Kristin Cavallari
How's he doing?
Alex Merle
You know, he's living his best life in New York City. And he should be here. He's just, like, a little. No, he, like, lives in the forest. He's a really. Well, like, upstate New York, maybe not.
Jessica
New York City, but he's off radar as much as possible.
Alex Merle
And he has a little girl. So sweet.
Kristin Cavallari
You guys remember Hot Sam, right?
Talon
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
He should be here.
Jessica
Do you ever think someday, maybe someday he'll show up for it? Like, he's such a.
Kristin Cavallari
Can I be honest with you guys?
Talon
Shut the up. He's not here.
Jessica
Be honest.
Talon
Shut up.
Kristin Cavallari
I wish he was here. He's not here.
Talon
Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean. Not me to. No.
Jessica
But I will tell you, I did.
Kristin Cavallari
Just talk to him because I actually asked him. I did ask him. He wouldn't, but he's very excited for the high school reunion. Oh, my God.
Alex Merle
Stop it.
Kristin Cavallari
High school reunion?
Alex Merle
Jessica's planning it.
Kristin Cavallari
Like, for real. What are the plans?
Talon
Wait, you're in charge. I'm not going.
Jason Waller
I thought you were in charge.
Kristin Cavallari
No.
Talon
No.
Kristin Cavallari
If I'm planning and everyone's coming to Nashville. What else? You guys, any last words for everybody? Hold on.
Jason Waller
Can we ask.
Talon
I think we should open up questions.
Jason Waller
Let's ask. Let's open up for a couple questions to the audience.
Kristin Cavallari
No, we don't.
Jessica
Wait, did he really just say that?
Kristin Cavallari
I'm sorry. I have another show tonight.
Alex Merle
I love you though. This.
Kristin Cavallari
Let's play a drinking game.
Jason Waller
Oh, no.
Kristin Cavallari
You guys want to play a drinking game?
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Jessica
Hell, yeah.
Talon
I have to pee so bad it's ridiculous.
Jessica
Oh, it's like a full. Full bar.
Kristin Cavallari
So Jason's going to do hot sauce shots.
Jason Waller
Ooh, hot sauce.
Jessica
Jess married to a pastor.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay, so we're playing sipper spill. Do you guys know this game?
Talon
No.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay, so we're going to. We each have two questions in front of us. We're going to flip over the card and read a question, and we can either answer it or take it.
Talon
Shut up. I.
Kristin Cavallari
Shots.
Alex Merle
Wait, like, personally, like, it's like town flips over. It's his question.
Talon
But I feel like you're a. If you don't answer the question, we'll.
Kristin Cavallari
Just have to see what's on the cards. Okay, Talon, you can go first.
Talon
No, you're first.
Kristin Cavallari
I'll go last. You go first.
Talon
That's.
Kristin Cavallari
This is my show. Do we read these? You read it yourself.
Jessica
You read it out loud.
Talon
Talent. Last. Google search. Pornhub.
Alex Merle
Oh, my talent.
Talon
Oh, not so to drink it. Oh, well, I just wanted to drink. I'm sorry.
Kristin Cavallari
Do whatever you want.
Jason Waller
Oh, my God. What is this?
Kristin Cavallari
That's hot sauce.
Talon
Oh, that is so up.
Jason Waller
Holy. That's, like, worse. That's worse than Wild Turkey.
Talon
Hey, you're up. Gone.
Alex Merle
Do you ever edit your photos on Instagram? Hell, yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
I do.
Alex Merle
Love it. What would I do without a filter?
Kristin Cavallari
Please.
Jason Waller
Oh, my God.
Alex Merle
Thank you.
Jessica
Okay, okay. Mine is probably boring. Okay, who takes themselves more seriously, Steven or Lauren? Lauren.
Talon
Oh, God, she got a really gnarly question.
Jessica
No, I'm kidding. I don't know. I don't know.
Talon
I'll answer for you, Lauren.
Jessica
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, probably Lauren. I feel like Steven, too. He's, like, going back with Steven, so. Yeah, there.
Alex Merle
I disagree.
Jessica
Here we go.
Kristin Cavallari
Well, you all can answer the question if you want.
Jessica
I just want to take the shot, though. Just to take it.
Alex Merle
Were you really mad at Kristen for kissing Jeff during the fiesta? Now what'd you say?
Talon
No.
Jessica
No.
Alex Merle
I feel like we've talked about this.
Kristin Cavallari
I know we have talked about this.
Jessica
That was like the editing.
Kristin Cavallari
Well, it was all editing. Well, I mean, I really did kiss him, but it was. I can let girls stay together at the fiesta.
Alex Merle
I'm just so confused.
Jason Waller
I'm not drinking.
Jessica
You gotta spill.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay.
Jason Waller
Have you ever been arrested? Yes. Yes.
Kristin Cavallari
Do you know how many times you've been arrested?
Jason Waller
Oh, my gosh.
Talon
I've been with him twice, so I know it's at least two.
Jason Waller
I mean, I could tell you I got arrested in six months in four states in one country.
Jessica
Wow.
Jason Waller
But I think it was, I don't know, probably 10 times.
Talon
I don't know.
Kristin Cavallari
Love that for you.
Alex Merle
Jeez Louise, look at you now.
Jessica
Look at you now.
Alex Merle
We go.
Kristin Cavallari
Did you really never hook up with Jason? I. We've never hooked up.
Talon
That's.
Kristin Cavallari
Am I crazy?
Talon
Oh, like. Okay, remember. Is it high school hookup memory?
Kristin Cavallari
I do that.
Talon
Oh, we.
Jason Waller
I kiss. That's it. In high school.
Talon
Oh, you kissed?
Alex Merle
When?
Kristin Cavallari
I don't remember.
Jason Waller
I don't remember. But it was. You remember what we did? No. Nothing more than kiss. Promise.
Alex Merle
When did we kiss?
Jason Waller
I don't. I don't remember. I don't remember anything.
Kristin Cavallari
I've never hooked up with Jason, but.
Jason Waller
It was like, very. Like we were both blacked out for sure.
Kristin Cavallari
Yeah, that makes sense.
Talon
I think you should take a shallow hot sauce. I just think he should.
Kristin Cavallari
That was my question.
Jason Waller
I answered it. She's gonna take it.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Talon, do your other one.
Talon
You're up. No, I.
Jessica
She just did.
Talon
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Alex Merle
Okay, wait, Talon, did you answer the question and take the shot or you just.
Talon
Okay, if you were single, what girl from your Playboy days would you go back and have one more day with. Oh, my God, I'm married. What the. Dude.
Jessica
So sip it.
Talon
No. Say here. What's political?
Alex Merle
One more.
Talon
What does one more day mean? Like, one more. Like. Well, that's impossible. I have anxiety. I overthink everything.
Jason Waller
I'm like, blocking.
Talon
I would say I'm. Kristen.
Jessica
What? What did he say?
Talon
I'm so. I'm gonna have. Oh, you're gonna sit with Christine day.
Kristin Cavallari
Like, we just go to lunch.
Talon
Let's go to lunch at the Mexican restaurant, you know?
Alex Merle
Okay. My last one is least favorite person on season one.
Jessica
I know a good one.
Alex Merle
You do? Whisper. Oh, I Know, I.
Jessica
But it's. It's so you can say it or sip it.
Alex Merle
We're in a safe zone.
Kristin Cavallari
Safe place. I mean, there's such a. Yeah.
Alex Merle
I just. I just felt like season one was so boring. Like, and I'm not trying to, like, be that way, but I.
Kristin Cavallari
Season one.
Alex Merle
Season one was just a little tiny bit boring. I don't know. I feel like I should take a shot.
Jessica
Take the shot. There we go.
Alex Merle
They're from season one, so you could guess your own self.
Talon
Love.
Jessica
Osworth.
Alex Merle
You're welcome. I think that's a cumulative answer, not just a single person answer.
Kristin Cavallari
We all know who it is.
Alex Merle
Well, yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Who's he?
Jessica
Oh, have you ever. Have you ever had a crush on a friend's significant other? Probably. I think. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, you guys are just doing everything.
Talon
Obviously messed up.
Jessica
I'm so boring. I'm not fun at all. But no, like, Sam. Like, in love with Sam. And when you were, like, hooking up with. Yeah. Hot Sam, I definitely was like jelly when you were hooking up with them, but we were like brother sister, so it would have been weird. But, yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
No.
Jessica
I don't know. I'm boring. Move on. Yeah. Yeah.
Alex Merle
Nervous. I feel like these are getting harder. Oh, I got the same answer. I answered this already. Least favorite person on season one. And two. Cats.
Talon
Just answer it. Don't be honest. Answer the damn question.
Alex Merle
Oh, on season one? Only because I think she was boring.
Talon
Oh, damn.
Alex Merle
Sorry. I don't talk to her, so it's not gonna do anything to my life. Season two. Who was on season two? It was probably me at the time.
Jessica
Yeah.
Alex Merle
Dislike you. Maybe in common.
Kristin Cavallari
Casey.
Alex Merle
Casey. I was just gonna say.
Kristin Cavallari
What about Casey?
Talon
Wait, hold on.
Kristin Cavallari
I.
Talon
Like. She was so nice. We had a little.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Jason.
Jason Waller
I was your least favorite.
Alex Merle
Huh?
Jason Waller
Nothing.
Alex Merle
You're my least favorite.
Jason Waller
I was just kidding.
Alex Merle
Clearly not.
Jason Waller
So tell us about time you got caught in a lie.
Jessica
I mean, it's out there.
Jason Waller
Yeah. Every episode.
Talon
For sure.
Jason Waller
I mean, the whole se. The whole show.
Kristin Cavallari
The whole storyline.
Talon
The whole show.
Alex Merle
Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Yeah, that. So you lied to both Alex and Jessica about each other. Is that fair to say all?
Jason Waller
Yes. For sure. For sure.
Kristin Cavallari
Okay. Did you ask anyone from season one to come on the show? Oh, my God, I did. I asked Stephen and he said no.
Jessica
He's missing out.
Alex Merle
Mic drop.
Jessica
Yeah. His loss.
Kristin Cavallari
And that's that, you guys.
Alex Merle
Give it up for the. Thank you guys so much for being here. Oh, we love you so much. Yeah.
Kristin Cavallari
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Podcast Summary: "LIVE: Still Rockin' the Red Solo Cups — Let's Be Honest Tour with Laguna Beach's Season 2 Cast"
Release Date: June 19, 2025
Introduction
In this lively episode of "Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari," host Kristin reunites with the cast of Season 2 of "Laguna Beach." The episode serves as a nostalgic trip down memory lane, blending humor, heartfelt reflections, and candid conversations about their shared past on reality TV and high school experiences.
Reuniting with the Laguna Beach Cast
Kristin opens the episode by expressing her initial apprehensions about the live show with the Laguna Beach cast, citing past unexpected events that left her feeling drained (00:01). However, she quickly shifts to a positive outlook, highlighting the strong bond she shares with her former castmates and the unique dynamics of their group.
Kristin Cavallari (00:01): "I love this crew with my life. And yes, Talon too."
Reflecting on the Show and High School Memories
The conversation delves into the enduring friendships formed during their high school years and the impact of being on a reality TV show. The cast reminisces about their time together, emphasizing that their connections go beyond mere television camaraderie.
Jessica (06:08): "We're so lucky to have that. And we're still rocking the red solo cups."
Embracing Growth and Addressing Past Behaviors
The group discusses personal growth since their high school days and their experiences on the show. Jason shares a poignant account of overcoming addiction, highlighting how revisiting the show allowed him to reflect on his past struggles and appreciate his journey toward recovery.
Jason Waller (15:43): "I struggled severely with addiction... It's been a very big, growing experience."
Sharing Embarrassing Stories and Regrets
The episode takes a humorous turn as the cast shares embarrassing anecdotes from their time on "Laguna Beach." Talon narrates a memorable prom night mishap involving Lindsay Lohan, sparking laughter and playful teasing among the group.
Talon (33:05): "We were all sleeping at each other's houses. We were really so bad."
Interactive Segment: Playing a Drinking Game
Adding an element of fun, the cast engages in a drinking game called "Sipper Spill." This segment encourages openness and reveals more about their high school antics, including who they've hooked up with and their least favorite moments from Season 1.
Talon (64:32): "Raise your hand if you've hooked up with Jason Waller."
Final Reflections and Closing Remarks
As the episode wraps up, Kristin emphasizes the importance of their long-standing friendships and the shared experiences that have kept them connected over two decades. The cast expresses gratitude for their enduring bonds and the opportunity to reminisce about their youth.
Kristin Cavallari (41:25): "We have these friendships that we've had for over 20 years, and that, to me, says a lot."
Conclusion
This episode of "Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari" offers listeners an entertaining and heartfelt reunion with the "Laguna Beach" Season 2 cast. Through laughter, shared stories, and genuine reflections, the group demonstrates how their past experiences have shaped their enduring friendships and personal growth.
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