LIVE: There's No Playbook to Life — Let's Be Honest Tour with Camille Kostek

Summary

Podcast Summary: LIVE: There's No Playbook to Life — Let's Be Honest Tour with Camille Kostek

Episode Details

• Title: LIVE: There's No Playbook to Life — Let's Be Honest Tour with Camille Kostek
• Host: Kristin Cavallari
• Guest: Camille Kostek and Rob Gronkowski
• Release Date: July 3, 2025
• Podcast: Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari by Dear Media

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1. Introduction and Tour Highlights (00:11 - 02:55)

Kristin Cavallari kicks off the live episode by warmly welcoming her guest, Camille Kostek, praising her authenticity and positive influence. Both hosts express their excitement about the Boston leg of the "Let's Be Honest" podcast tour, sharing anecdotes about their time in the city and engaging with the enthusiastic audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Kristin Cavallari (00:22): "So excited for today's episode, I have Camille Kostek and you guys, I just absolutely love Camille."
• Camille Kostek (00:31): "She is one of the realest, coolest, most down to earth chicks on the planet."

2. Exploring the WAG World (03:08 - 07:19)

The conversation shifts to the world of WAGs (Wives and Girlfriends of Athletes), a topic Camille introduces to Kristin. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding this community, emphasizing that being labeled a WAG often overshadows a woman's personal achievements and identity.

Notable Quotes:

• Kristin Cavallari (03:08): "People think it's this, like, drama filled, crazy, just like women fighting. And my experience was the opposite of that."
• Rob Gronkowski (06:38): "Although I think her take on it was very interesting."
• Camille Kostek (07:19): "I hate the word, too. Can I be honest with you? No. I hate it."

3. Personal Relationship Journeys (08:08 - 12:02)

Rob Gronkowski joins the discussion, shedding light on his decade-long relationship with Camille. He shares personal stories about their initial meeting, the challenges of maintaining a relationship within the WAG community, and the importance of individual identity beyond their association.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob Gronkowski (08:30): "We've been in each other's lives for 10 years. It's been like this."
• Rob Gronkowski (11:33): "Some of the best things in my life that changed the trajectory of my life came from this fucking breakup that broke me, but also allowed me to find who I am."
• Rob Gronkowski (12:02): "Being able to connect with so many of you. Open up, get raw, get real, and learn about who I am."

4. Navigating Breakups and Personal Growth (12:17 - 22:24)

Rob delves deeper into his relationship with Kristin Cavallari, recounting their secretive beginnings and subsequent challenges. He emphasizes how their breakup in 2017 served as a catalyst for personal growth, leading him to pursue his dreams in Los Angeles and audition for the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob Gronkowski (14:16): "I can't be getting sloshed. You know what I mean?"
• Rob Gronkowski (18:52): "Years of dance training since I was like, 3 years old in order to meet my man."
• Rob Gronkowski (21:10): "It sucked because it was his first super bowl win, his first touchdown in a Super Bowl."

5. Overcoming Judgment and Embracing Identity (22:25 - 30:34)

The trio discusses the judgment and scrutiny faced by WAGs, particularly focusing on Camille's experiences within the New England sports community. Rob shares his observations on the unwelcoming environment and the pressure to conform, highlighting the importance of staying true to oneself amidst external judgments.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob Gronkowski (24:01): "I felt like there was a lot of judgment happening."
• Rob Gronkowski (25:24): "You cannot allow any of that to have access to your aura."
• Rob Gronkowski (27:08): "No, but my experience. I was shocked when Rob went and played for the Buccaneers."

6. Maintaining a Healthy Relationship Post-Retirement (39:09 - 41:22)

Kristin steers the conversation towards how relationships evolve through major life transitions, such as Rob's retirement from the NFL. Rob emphasizes the significance of open communication, sharing how addressing issues directly has strengthened their bond and enhanced mutual understanding.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob Gronkowski (40:17): "It's the best ever."
• Rob Gronkowski (40:30): "Like, I used to always be scared of, like, what if I bring this up?"
• Camille Kostek (41:22): "See, I think we all go through that. It's very relatable."

7. Embracing Individual Timelines (49:55 - 50:28)

The discussion touches upon societal pressures regarding marriage and commitment. Rob shares his perspective on choosing personal timelines over conventional expectations, advocating for a relationship built on mutual understanding and readiness rather than external validation.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob Gronkowski (49:55): "I don't believe that marriage and a ring on my finger determines my happiness and our loyalty and our love."
• Rob Gronkowski (49:53): "You don't need a ring."

8. Interactive Drinking Game Segment (43:00 - 51:25)

In a lively and candid segment, Kristin engages Camille and Rob in a playful drinking game called "Sip or Spill." This interactive portion reveals humorous and honest insights into their personal lives, preferences, and quirks, further strengthening the rapport between the hosts and guests.

Notable Moments:

• Camille Kostek (44:04): "You're too nice."
• Rob Gronkowski (45:15): "He is like the. We call him Rob the Slob."
• Kristin Cavallari (48:38): "I think I'll just be honest with you guys, because that's all I know how to fucking do."

9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts (51:05 - End)

The episode concludes with heartfelt expressions of gratitude towards the audience, highlighting the genuine connections formed through the podcast. Kristin and her guests reiterate the importance of honesty, authenticity, and self-love in both personal and relational realms.

Notable Quotes:

• Kristin Cavallari (51:05): "You can feel extra confident."
• Camille Kostek (51:25): "I fuck love you, Boston. I love you guys."
• Rob Gronkowski (51:25): "You're the best. You're the best."

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Key Takeaways:

• Authenticity Over Labels: The episode emphasizes the importance of personal identity beyond societal labels like WAG.
• Communication is Crucial: Open and honest dialogue strengthens relationships, especially during challenging times.
• Embrace Personal Timelines: Individual growth and happiness should not be dictated by external expectations or timelines.
• Resilience Through Adversity: Personal setbacks, such as breakups, can lead to significant personal and professional growth.

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This episode of "Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari" offers a deep dive into the complexities of relationships within high-profile environments, the challenges of maintaining authenticity, and the significance of personal growth. Through engaging conversations and candid storytelling, Kristin, Camille, and Rob provide listeners with valuable insights and relatable experiences that inspire self-love and honest living.

Transcript

[Kristin Cavallari]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Camille Kostek]

Welcome in to let's Be Honest for another live podcast episode from the let's Be Honest podcast tour.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So excited for today's episode, I have Camille Kostic and you guys, I just absolutely love Camille.

[Camille Kostek]

She is one of the realest, coolest, most down to earth chicks on the planet. She's as beautiful inside as she is.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Out and, you know, she's such a.

[Camille Kostek]

Positive light in this world.

[Kristin Cavallari]

She's got a really great message for women.

[Camille Kostek]

She just, she's uplifting. You want her to be your best.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Friend is how I describe Camille, you know, and she talks a lot about relationships and why putting yourself first is really important.

[Camille Kostek]

Body positivity, shift. She's just one of the real ones, guys.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I am so lucky to call her a friend. I hope that this episode really inspires.

[Camille Kostek]

A lot of women.

[Kristin Cavallari]

She kept it very real.

[Camille Kostek]

She was very honest about the ups.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And downs that she's experienced her in.

[Camille Kostek]

Her own relationship, the personal things that she's gone through and how she's really.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Followed her dreams and become this successful, badass woman, really, you know, on her own.

[Camille Kostek]

We talk about the WAG world, you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Know, wives and girlfriends of athletes with, which is interesting. It's not necessarily a conversation that I'm dying to have. It's not one that she was dying to have.

[Camille Kostek]

Although I think her take on it was very interesting.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Very different than my experience, actually. I think Camille had like a very.

[Camille Kostek]

Classic, you know, traditional WAG experience.

[Kristin Cavallari]

She was a cheerleader. They weren't necessarily the most welcoming to her. Where I came in it from a very different perspective. You know, I had already been on.

[Camille Kostek]

Tv, People knew who I was, so.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I was treated differently. And so, I don't know.

[Camille Kostek]

It's interesting to compare notes on that world. It is an interesting world.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I do think people are curious about it. And so I actually.

[Camille Kostek]

I love this episode.

[Kristin Cavallari]

This is one of my favorites. And just shout out Boston. Ugh. The Boston shows the Boston audiences. Being in Boston, I fucking love Boston. The crowds were awesome.

[Camille Kostek]

You guys fucking rocked.

[Kristin Cavallari]

This was my favorite theater and I just.

[Camille Kostek]

We. I actually got to be in Boston for three nights, which was the longest I was in any city, so.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I did get to go out in Boston and kind of check it.

[Camille Kostek]

Out a little bit. Enjoy the city, get good coffee.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know, we got to have some fun in Boston.

[Camille Kostek]

I will be honest with you guys. Camille and I play a drinking game.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I 1000% had water shots, as you guys know. I sometimes do because you guys, Camille's not drinking. A. And B, I had a show the next day.

[Camille Kostek]

Like, I can't be.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I can't be getting sloshed. You know what I mean?

[Camille Kostek]

But Camille, a thousand percent called me out for having water shots. I was like, camille, shut the fuck up.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But, man, she knew. She was on it.

[Camille Kostek]

She was on it it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But anyways, guys, enjoy this episode. I love this one.

[Camille Kostek]

And don't forget to be watching Honestly. Cavallari on E. Bravo and Peacock for all the behind the scenes.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, but I have a couple questions for you guys. You guys know what WAG stands for, right? Wait, I'm like, what is it? Wives and Girlfriends of Athletes? Yeah, obviously I was a WAG at one point in my life. And it's a very interesting world, one that only another WAG could relate to. So I think we should talk about it. Please help me welcome Camille Costa.

[Camille Kostek]

And Boston. Yeah. Woo. Yes. That's my girl.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Who spanks their own ass when they come out? I guess I do.

[Camille Kostek]

Camille. Oh, my gosh. Kristin, I told you Boston's gonna be.

[Kristin Cavallari]

The best city of your tour. I'm telling.

[Camille Kostek]

Yes. Oh, my gosh.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Boston is fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Look how happy everybody is to see. What? What?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, no, no. I need to tell you something right now.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I've been to the Wilbur one other time. Julian and Rob did a live podcast show. I did not know you could fill this place.

[Camille Kostek]

This was not the audience.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I love the boys, but give it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Up for the girls because, my gosh, this is. This is the place to be.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, well, that makes me really happy, you guys. You guys are the best. I've actually. I had someone else tell me that Boston was the best place to do a live podcast because you guys are just. Your energy is amazing.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Kristen goes. Atlanta, Chicago, Boston or New York. I was like, kristen, is that a serious question? Boston has been my home for 10 years. It still is. It's like my little secret that I guess it's not a secret anymore. I know everyone's like, new England misses you guys. I was like, we never know left.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How much time do you spend here?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Anytime that I don't have to travel and be somewhere, I come here. New England, like, is my roots. It makes me feel grounded. Is there my people. You were going. You were like, I can't believe how nice you guys. Are you kidding me?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, like the nicest people. And I mean, I was in Chicago and Chicago people are nice, but this is like, next level. It's the best. It's the best. The best.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I love that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, I'm excited to talk about the WAG world because I think there's a lot of misconceptions. People think it's this, like, drama filled, crazy, just like women fighting. And my experience was the opposite of that.

[Camille Kostek]

But I want to know, when you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Describe it to people, how do you describe that whole world? What do you say?

[Rob Gronkowski]

First off, I've always kind of disassociated with that word just because it feels so weird. I don't know, it almost feels like that is your identity. And for me, I met my partner through being an NFL cheerleader for the Patriots. So that was like. I think, honestly, one of my. Speaking of headlines, I think one of my favorite stories was like, that was how I met him. I'm like, do you realize that was 17 years worth of dance training since I was, like, 3 years old in order to meet my man? Like, that's crazy. No, so it was just. And I was in a relationship when I made the team. So, you know, I wasn't looking for a man on the roster. It just happened to work out that way. But that's how I was integrated into the world of New England sports. And I grew up in Connecticut. So we don't have a football team, we don't have a hockey team, we don't have a baseball team. So I was, like, a huge fan of the Patriots, but because of the cheer squad. So once I made that team and I had no idea that I was literally gonna fall in love with somebody on the football team that I had to keep quiet for two years, that's what deemed me a wag, I guess.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So they love to just, like, cut. Not. I don't wanna say cut you down, but take away.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because I feel like. I remember that there was a show that came out called Wags, and I feel like a lot of those women were, like, looking to date an athlete. That wasn't what I was looking to do. If anything, I was kind of scared of it. Like, I was super scared of it. And I learned why through the last, you know, lot of years. But I don't know, it's really weird. I think when you introduce me as.

[Kristin Cavallari]

A wag, it's fine.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I think it always depends.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I hate the word, too. Can I be honest with you? No. I hate it. That's why I wanna talk about it. And just because, like.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What's the male version?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Great question. Well, they don't.

[Rob Gronkowski]

They don't have one, you know?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, no, that's a good Question.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like, what would you call Travis Kelce for dating Taylor Swift? But really, like, I've had this career of my own. I was always so, like, I knew there were so many things I was destined to want to do and be on television and act and to host and. And dance and do all of these things. And then I happened to date an athlete, and it was like, you are a wag. And it was like that. I'm not. Okay. My name is not my man. I don't know.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I was actually going to end the show with that. I was going to say, because we're having this conversation about being a wag. But you're such a badass on your own. And not only. Yeah, not only are you this huge model and you do the hosting and you do all these things, but you have such a positive message for women. And you're just one of the realest, most down to earth, coolest fucking chicks I've ever met. And that's what you should be known for, you know, not for who you date.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Thank you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

They love to put women in a box for who they've dated. And that's just. You're so much more than that. Thank you, baby. Okay, but. But let's talk about Rob.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, honestly, if I'm going to talk about him anywhere, it's Boston, so you have to.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Here.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is the people.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. I think everyone knows who he is, but obviously he played for the Patriots. You guys have been together for how long?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, the together question's hard for me. We've. No, we've been in each other's lives for 10 years. It's been like this. But I think that's been the best part, because if anybody who's ever been through a breakup for as much as it feels like literally the end of the world and heartbreak is, like, debilitating. I grew and he grew into people I don't think we would have been without the breakup.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I. When was this breakup?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, the first breakup was in 2000. The first was like, the real one was 2017. And I'm going to tell you what happened with that. And I'm telling you this. Not. I honestly have to tell you, whenever I grab a microphone and I get on stage, I never want to talk, just to, like, be like, me, me, me, blah, blah, blah. I want to talk because I hope that someone can relate to this. In 2017, I went through this breakup and I was, like, truly broken and.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Why did you guys break up?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, it wasn't my fault. I definitely. It Was just, like, one of those things. Rob and I met when I was 21 years old. I'm 33 now. He was 24 years old. So we went through our 20s together. And, you know, babies.

[Camille Kostek]

Your babies in your 20s.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I said this to you backstage. I'm surprised you guys have been able to last this long through your 20s, honestly.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Same. And I thought, each time, this is the end. But they always come back, ladies.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes, they do.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And then you get to decide if you're gonna let them back in or not. But, Rob, first off, I'm gonna share a lot of this with you, because this is the. Let's be honest. And we're in the city of champions. So I feel like.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Let's talk about it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But the point that I wanted to get to was in 2017, that was, like, the worst breakup. Cause it was the first one. But that breakup pushed me to move out to Los Angeles. I literally would go to Dunkin Donuts, and it would be like, what would you like? And it'd be like Rob holding a Dunkin Donuts cup. I was like, I can't live here anymore. Like, every commercial, every Sunday, everyone's wearing 87 jersey. I was like, get me out of here. But it made me move to Los Angeles finally. It was something I wanted to do for so long. And I wonder, if we were still together, would I have made that huge move moving all the way across the country, away from my family, away from my friends, away from him? And in that year, I decided to audition for Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, which was also on my bucket list. Now, I'm telling you all of this again, not to do a me, me, me story, but to let you know that some of the best things in my life that changed the trajectory of my life came from this fucking breakup that broke me, but also allowed me to find who I am. What is it that motivates me? Because when I'm someone who gets in a relationship, I'm all in. I am all in emotionally, all the things. And I was able to find myself a little bit and just get in the zone. I didn't care about dating. I felt like I was asexual. I was like, no one excites me, but it allowed me. They say, like, that's when you do you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So I cared about pursuing the things that brought me joy. I felt like I lost who I was a little bit. And a lot of it came from that WAG identity. It was almost like that started to become my identity. Like Gronk's girlfriend. Gronk's girlfriend. And I'd be like, I'm Camille Kostick. Nice to meet you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It sounds so silly, but it weighed on me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, it's important. I get that. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And I'm proud to be his girl. But it was like, that's. That's not my name, you know, it's not your identity.

[Camille Kostek]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So then when we broke up, it definitely became a TMZ headline. And that was hard because I was already dealing with it on my own. But that breakup led to some of the best moments of my career. That led me to becoming a multimillionaire on my own. That led me to.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, baby. Creating this.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Being able to connect with so many of you. Open up, get raw, get real, and learn about who I am. And then guess who came knocking on my door?

[Kristin Cavallari]

They always do. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So anyway, that was a long winded answer, but.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, but that's great. And it's relatable. And I think it's important. You guys, you need to put yourself first. You need to find yourselves these women, you know? So it's great. But you guys first met when you were still a cheerleader.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And that was off limits.

[Camille Kostek]

Players and cheerleaders could not date.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So you have said you guys locked eyes at this charity event.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What happened after that?

[Rob Gronkowski]

So you can't. The football players don't get in trouble, but the cheerleaders also.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How is that okay?

[Camille Kostek]

What?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Get kicked off the team? I don't think that's a rule anymore now. But at the time, I was literally hiding. So he had. I had just gone through a really bad breakup about a month or two before, and I went to this charity event, and.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Rob dies.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Rob kept looking at me. I kept looking at him, and I was like, but he probably looks at everybody. And then his number got slipped to me through Jermaine Wiggins. Some of the alumni players were there, and he slipped. He asked me to sign. Jermaine came up to me and he's like, will you sign this Patriots trailer poster? Like, will you sign your name? And I was like, absolutely. And he was like, I'm just kidding. Write your number on it for Rob Gronkowski. And I was like, oh, sir, I can't. I can't do that. I'll get kicked off team. And he was like, rob knew you'd rookie move him with this and get scared. So he wrote it on his hello, my name is Rob Gronkowski. Like, sticker and wrote sh. So I, like, refused to write my number because I was so scared of getting kicked off the team and someone finding out. I was doing the appearance with my captain at the time and I was like, I think this is a setup. Like I think I'm being hazed right now. There's no way this is real.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay guys, let's take a minute to.

[Camille Kostek]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

I took his number and I went home is around Thanksgiving and so we first met at Goodwill in Boston and then I went Home. And I told my mom, and she goes, I don't think that's his number. I think the girls are setting you up. And I said, me, too. And we let a couple days pass by, and then I watched the Patriots play the Texans. And I said, if this is Rob, he will still. He'll kind of be sweaty. He'll kind of be coming out of the game. I'm going to FaceTime him, face my phone to the ceiling, and see if he's gonna answer me. So my mom and I FaceTimed him together with the phone to the ceiling, and. And this man answered the phone with the phone to the ceiling of the plane.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I said, who's this?

[Rob Gronkowski]

And he was like, you called me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Who's this?

[Rob Gronkowski]

And so I was like, all right, it's the guy. And that was our first call. And then he called me when he got home. He was like, my plane's about to take off. We talked for about, like, three hours. And then he was like, when do I get to see you in person? I was like, oh, never.

[Camille Kostek]

Never.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And then that's when I started pulling in my Jeep Grand Cherokee into his garage. And I was like, shut it. As I had to hide. I was so scared.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes. You guys kept it a secret for two years?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Two years?

[Camille Kostek]

No, I can't keep anything a secret for a fucking week.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It was honestly, when people ask, what's the recipe to success with this relationship? It was really like dating behind closed doors for two years. We really got to know each other, and Rob is my best friend, and we just really got to know each other. And then after a year of hanging out and stuff, it was time to try out for the team again.

[Camille Kostek]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Gronkowski]

There I was auditioning, making up my dance in his living room, and he was like, you're not trying out again. I was like, oh, I am, because dance can't break up with me, but you, sir, can. So I danced one more year, and then they won the super bowl against the Seahawks.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yep. So you couldn't go on the field and celebrate with him, right?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I went on the field and celebrated from afar.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It was. It sucked because it was his first super bowl win, his first touchdown in a Super Bowl. Malcolm Butler had the interception. It was such a big moment, you know? And then he snuck me into the team hotel. We celebrated there.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. So it was literally just hanging out.

[Camille Kostek]

At each other's places, sneaking around.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Well, he couldn't come hang out at mine because I was still in college, and he was like, let me Come to your college campus. I was like, you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, no, you can't hide on my.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Campus with a wig or nothing.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, sir.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, that's hilarious. I think he wanted me to get kicked off the team. He was like, over the hiding, but awesome.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, so then you finished that year, and then you were done with cheerleading. Like, you guys decided together that you would be done so you could be public?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I was just. I was like, how does it get better than winning a Super Bowl? I did my two seasons. Like, I. And I just. I wanted to do other things. I knew I wanted to get into acting, modeling, television, hosting. Like, literally living out all of the things I always wanted to do now, but that required me to, like, I felt like I exhausted my dance career after 17 years, and that was a really great ending. And then it was on to other things.

[Kristin Cavallari]

There you go. Yeah. Okay. So when everyone found out that you were dating Rob, how did they treat you? I would imagine some of the other cheerleaders were a little bitter.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, no, they were. So a couple of them were like, we knew. And I was like, no, you didn't. I was such a good liar. That's not a good thing to say. I just hit it so well. Like, his code name was Matt. So I used to say all the time, like, oh, I'm going to go hang out with Matt. And they're like, when are we going to see Matt? I'm like, he doesn't have social media.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That you made up a boyfriend?

[Camille Kostek]

Yes.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So when my girlfriend friends finally met him that were on the team, I was like, and this is Matt. And they were like, we were wondering where Matt went when you showed us Rob.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's so great.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Matt was Matt.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What about the first time you met the other Wags? How did they treat you? Mm. Matt.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't know about that. Listen, my experience. I was shocked when Rob went and played for the Buccaneers. I love, love, to this day, the wives and girlfriends of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They were so nice. They were so inviting. It was so great. Cause I didn't. There was some no.

[Kristin Cavallari]

1 treat.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm being careful with my words. I know.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I feel like she's not being honest. I know. Camille. All right, so the Patriots Wags were awful. Is that what I'm picking up?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, no, no. I sat in Bill Belichick's suite with Linda Holiday, like, because I literally wasn't just say it wasn't welcome. The energy was off. Like, no one was like, you can't sit with us. But it just Felt that way a little bit. And I felt like being a former cheerleader. And also, I wasn't at a lot of the games. Cause I was, like, pursuing a career of my own. And I was being judged on, like, well, you haven't been at a lot of the charitable events, and you haven't been at a lot of foundations.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I remember that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And I was like, well, because I got a fucking life to live.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, this isn't my life.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So I would go to the games when I could, but I just. I felt like there was a lot of judgment happening. And I remember one of the wags being like, you know, so and so and so and so talks about you. And I was like, who? And who? I literally don't know who you're talking about. So I don't want to know and I don't want to hear it. So it was one of those things. I can't even say no much about the experience. Because as soon as the energy's off, like, I am out. I'm out of the room. I don't want to be in the drama. I don't want to, like, let people talk. They're always going to talk. I feel like we talk about this a lot. Like, no matter what you do, someone's always got something to say about it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, of course.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You can't win with people. Well, and sports fans, too. I mean, they can be passionate, shall we say. They can be very tough sometimes. Does it affect you, or did it affect you? I should say, when sports fans would talk shit about Rob.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, yeah. I think. I think the hardest part for me was this stupid thing called fantasy football where people would, like, lose money and they'd be like, get mad at him when he was injured. And I was like, these are real people. And they'd be like, screw you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I lost.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All this money is like. Well, I don't know. It's just like, how do you. I was just always very defensive.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, did you. When he got hurt? Because, I mean, every athlete gets hurt.

[Camille Kostek]

I know Rob did get hurt.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And they would still talk shit. And it's like, again, these are real people. They're actually hurt. How would you handle that criticism?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay. I learned this from Rob because I feel like there's so many people, like, for those who don't know, I model with Sports Illustrated swimsuit.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And they know. They know.

[Camille Kostek]

They all know.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We know. Okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But did you know? Yeah.

[Camille Kostek]

Oh, that's my girl.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, that's my fucking girl.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But did you know that when you become a Bikini model that makes people feel like they have access to your bikini body to tell you how you should and shouldn't be. So the reason I'm bringing this up is because it almost, like, took the joy out of what I did, and it was really hard for me to. Not because when I'm not gonna speak for everybody, but when I look in the mirror, like, I literally, like, dissect everything. But I didn't really start doing that until other people started dissecting me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, interesting.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, I always. I had, like, this confidence, but then it started to, like, lose it. The more that people almost, like, got access to my energy, and I would, like, break down. I'd be really upset about it with Rob, and he said, camille, if I ever allowed what everyone has to say about me and my personality, about my character, about my injuries, about my career, I literally wouldn't be able to get.

[Camille Kostek]

Up out of bed.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He was like, you cannot allow any of that to have access to your aura. You literally need to get up and shake it off and go out. And ever since he told me that, and this was, like, early. This was back when we were still, like, hiding our relationship. So he was, like, 24, 25 years old and already knew that I was like, the way you're raised is really great that he just also. He didn't have an Instagram at the time. This guy, like, was bare. Like, he loved his Twitter news.

[Kristin Cavallari]

A guy not on social media.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, but that's when I just. I learned that, like, no matter what people say, like, it's up to you to decide if it's gonna take you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Over and give access to your energy.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So I love that. It's easier said than done, but.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, but that's why you're a positive role model. I love that. That's great advice. It's true. With the Wags, did you find that there was sort of this, like, unspoken hierarchy, like, QB's wife or, like, coach. I'd say head coach, actually. That wife, then qb. Did you experience that? And so on.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't know about, like, the breakdown of, like, positions in that way, but there is definitely, like, I was seen as a lesser than girlfriend because I didn't have a ring on my finger.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But you want to know what's so interesting about that? From the woman that's coming to mind that judged me the most.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You can say names here.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is a serious. She's divorced, so.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Someone pull up that roster for when she was there. We could narrow it down, and she's.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Living in his old apartment, and he's out and married to somebody else.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So we can get to the bottom of that, right, guys? We can do a little digging and figure out who that is.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But my point is, to me, a ring on your finger doesn't determine true love and happiness. And Rob and I have been through so much, and that's definitely something that I've worked through people judging us for. Does he take you that seriously? He's scared to commit. You guys. We have homes with our names together. Our families love each other. We have a dog together. Ralphie. Like, we just. Like, it's a day at a time. There's no playbook to life. And that's something I'm constantly trying to remind myself that, like, there's no certain time you're supposed to have kids or get married. Like, you're on your own timeline. You're never too late. You're always on time.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Agreed? Yes, 100%. And I know that's annoying, having people ask you all the time, when are you guys going to get married? But, Camille, I got to be annoying and ask you, but, like, when are you guys going to get married? Do you want me to call Rob? I'll call Rob.

[Camille Kostek]

You can.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He always has a different answer.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What does he say?

[Rob Gronkowski]

He says, if I tell you, then it won't be a surprise.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Whenever I get asked this question, you really break it down. When am I going to get engaged? Like, imagine if I was, like, December 2, 2026. Like, I don't know. All I know is I need my nails to be done. I know the ring that I want.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Do you guys maybe not need to get married, though? Like, could you just be together forever?

[Rob Gronkowski]

And, I mean, I definitely want to have a big party. Like, I just. I want to have a big party with all. I just. Honestly, Kristen, how fun would it be, too, as, like, someone who's single to.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Have, Like, I want to come to that party. I want to come to that party.

[Camille Kostek]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rob Gronkowski]

For me, that's what I'm saying. I told you. I'm like, I just want to be a hot bride. Like, just so much fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You would be the hottest bride. Okay, well, then it'll happen. How much time did you spend around Giselle? Ooh, we're trying to make headlines, right?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I wish it was juicy. I just. Giselle is such a literal supermodel, so whenever I would, like, see her passing by during Patriots games in the suite, I was like, oh, everybody back up.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's Giselle.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And I would just. Honestly, I went through my era, like, 10 years ago when I would wear, like, eyelash extensions. She is the reason I stopped wearing them. I was like, that is a natural beauty if I ever saw one. And she does not have eyelash extensions.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I can't picture you with eyelash extensions.

[Camille Kostek]

You're such a natural beauty.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, thank you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I feel like it would take away your beauty.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Anytime someone tries to put a lash on me, I was like, yeah, no, you don't need em. I see 21 year old Camille.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You don't need em. Okay, so you didn't really get to hang with her.

[Camille Kostek]

She kinda did her own thing.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Honestly, like, Giselle did her own thing. And think about it, like, she was married with her kids and had this thriving career and always on the road and traveling everywhere. I didn't know where she was. But what's so special about Giselle is when we would cross paths or we would see each other. Like, she would embrace me and talk to me like, we've known each other forever, so.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, I love that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I only have great things to say about her.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, that's sweet. So safe to say she was not at the wives luncheons.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I only went to 2. I wasn't either.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, I only went to 2 my last year with the bear.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't even know what that is. I didn't get the invite.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

They're like, she's not gonna come. I don't know what that is.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're not missing anything. What is your favorite memory from the NFL days?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, my goodness. I would just say, honestly, I miss whenever people ask me, like, are you so sad that he retired? Like, I'm not sad that he retired because I know that, like, what a toll it took on his body. But oh, my gosh, I miss the energy of games. Like, I love football season. Football season to me, isn't the same without Brady and Gronk, to be honest. Dynasty days, baby. I live for them. How cool. We got to live through that. I think about that a lot, but I just miss game days. I miss the electricity of being in Gillette Stadium and just cheering on a winning team.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I didn't get to experience that too much. Aw, it's fine.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Game day outfits were fun, though. What you're saying game day outfits, at.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Least that was the best. No, game day, it was so much fun.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Instagram wasn't even hot then. That wasn't fair.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We had our lunch. Imagine if it was. It would have been so much Better.

[Camille Kostek]

You're.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Wait, hold on.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm just imagining you with like an Abercrombie skirt.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Double layered polo lace out the bottom.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Joker being like, go, teams.

[Camille Kostek]

Go Steven.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, go Steven.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You would have the best game deluxe. We'd all recreate them.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, that choker. Oh, my God. I almost wore.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I almost. I told Kristen I frantically was shopping in Soho last night. I just flew in from New York and I was like, I love soho.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Love soho. Don't we all?

[Rob Gronkowski]

And I was like, do I go to Abercrombie in Bitch and like, do that and like, try to dress like Kristen?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I would die. That choker was a piece of leather that I got at like a bead store in Laguna Beach.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I was going to go to Claire's and just.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, Claire's would probably have one. Yeah, I just wrapped it around my neck. I didn't take that thing off for a year. A year. I showered with it. I mean, I probably had a tan line.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I feel like you definitely.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I have to. It's ridiculous.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, it's not ridiculous, Kristin. You are the blueprint of what I want it to be like. Can I just tell you, I was going through it last night, like, thinking about. I was calling my sisters and I was like, do you understand that younger Camille is freaking the F out that Kristin Cavallari texted me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

She texted me and said, hey, girl.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Here are the four shows. Which one? That's when I said, I talked about this at the beginning of the show and I said, boston, obviously. And then it like clicked and I was like, kristen Cavallari from Laguna beach knows me, has my number, and wants me to come and girl talk with her.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Hell yeah.

[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Camille Kostek]

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[Kristin Cavallari]

I will say it's very rare you meet someone as real as you in this industry. You know that people are not honest. They're not real. And when I met you, I was like, this girl is everything and more than I thought you would be. Yeah, no, you're the, you're the best. You're the best. Okay, but we're gonna go back to Wags.

[Camille Kostek]

What else?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, okay, well, we can just talk about relationships.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. I wanna know how your relationship has evolved because you guys, like you said, you've lived through a lot breakups and also retiring. I mean, an athlete retiring is a big deal. It can be really hard to talk.

[Rob Gronkowski]

To you this way, Kristin. I've been facing on my bad sides.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know both of our good sides are this side. Yes, dear beautiful therapy. Let's be honest. So, yeah, talk to me about the evolution of your guys relationship. How have you guys navigated all of these tough times? Well.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Is this what you guys want to hear about or do you want me to talk about something else? Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay. What was the question?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I don't even know.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, how, oh, how have we grown and navigated.

[Camille Kostek]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How have you guys navigated the breakups? Him retiring? Just the difficult times in a relationship. Ooh.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So I, I would say from the beginning to now, I am not scared anymore to like communicate how I'm really feeling and what it is that I want or how it is that. That something made me feel like I'm a lot better about just like leaving it all out on the table. And honestly, I have to tell you every single time that I bring up something that's bothering me or something that I want him to work through or us to work through? It's the best ever.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Why?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Why? Question why do you think it's great? What do you think comes after that? What comes after a great conversation of working through something that's stressing you both?

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're closer together.

[Camille Kostek]

Yes.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And then the sex is amazing. And then you guys grow closer, closer together from that. But seriously, like, having communication and talking to each other has been the best thing. Like, I used to always be. I used to always be scared. I used to be scared of, like, what if I bring this up? Because I hate controversy. So if I bring this up, am I gonna seem like I'm tough to date? Am I gonna be tough to live with? And that's like, such, like, a false narrative that I was just feeding to myself. So always speak up. Say what it is that you want. Because honestly.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But how did you find that confidence to do that?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Exploding from keeping it all in for so long and then, like, one little thing happening and then it all coming out. So when we just talk through it now all the time, I love that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I actually went through something similar. I never could speak up in my early 20s. I also think it's age, too, and just maturing and realizing men can't read your mind. So if you want something, you gotta speak up. Yes. Yes.

[Camille Kostek]

Wait.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I was waiting.

[Camille Kostek]

What did you say?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Did you say thank you because you want men to be told what it is that you want?

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, he wants his wife probably, to speak up and say what she wants. What? Okay.

[Camille Kostek]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

See, I think we all go through that. It's very relatable. It is scary in your early 20s.

[Camille Kostek]

To ask for what you need and.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But then you grow up and you realize, if I want this, I better speak the fuck up, otherwise I'm never gonna get it. And it's what? Or be a lesbian. I've thought about that.

[Camille Kostek]

Same.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I've thought about that. It's hard out there with the boys.

[Camille Kostek]

So I love you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, I'm not mad at that idea, honestly. How many lesbians are here tonight?

[Camille Kostek]

One. Yeah. Yeah. I'm honored that you're here.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Have you ever had a lesbian experience? No. Nothing?

[Camille Kostek]

No, I haven't.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No. I haven't either. In, like, a wait.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But, like, weirdly, in my dreams, though not in real life.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think it's because you want to dabble. You want to test it out. You're curious.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I, like, wake up and I'm like, rob, I have to tell you something.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, he's like, I didn't have a.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Dream that you cheated on me. I had a dream that I was, like, sleeping with another woman.

[Kristin Cavallari]

He's like, let's invite her in. Yeah, invite her in.

[Camille Kostek]

What?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, I don't know what anyone in the audience is saying.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I missed it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, my God, Camille, I love you so much. You are the absolute best, but I'm not done with you. I'm gonna play a drinking game with you. Oh, no. But Camille doesn't really drink, so we're gonna be nice to her and give her wellness shots. But I'll actually be doing tequila. Oh, I know. They're all, like, guys.

[Rob Gronkowski]

They're cayenne, ginger. It's not ideal.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You don't want to be taking, like, four of these shots, but feel like.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm gonna want to drink alcohol.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Would you rather have tequila? We can get you tequila. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Yours look kind of good.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, you're taking tequila.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'm doing tequila. No, it's tequila. Okay, so we're playing sip or spill. You guys know that game? Do you want one?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I think that's water.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, it's not. I think it is. All right, so we're playing sip or spill. So we have four questions in front of us, and you get to go first, and we're going to read them. You can answer it or take a shot.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Do the honors. Read it out loud. Camille, do you want me to read it for you? Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Are you so.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, which wag was the rudest to you?

[Camille Kostek]

Oh, come on, Camille.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're too nice.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's the problem. I couldn't.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're too nice.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I couldn't.

[Kristin Cavallari]

All right, all right. Oh, my God.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Wait, what did she say? I don't think I've ever talked about it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We're gonna get to the bottom of everything she said, you guys, we're gonna do a research.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I hate it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know you're a good person. Okay, me, on the other hand. Tell us who the athletes are that you're talking to at the moment.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Is this your question?

[Camille Kostek]

Yeah. Oh, I was like, wait, what? Oh, Kristen, what are you gonna do?

[Kristin Cavallari]

You wanna know why I can't, you guys? Because there's two of them.

[Camille Kostek]

So stay away.

[Rob Gronkowski]

One.

[Camille Kostek]

Say one.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, it's not Tom Brady. I swear on my life.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Can confirm. Oh, I like this question, actually. Camille, do you. Oh, Camille, Camille, Camille. I am drunk off a ginger shot. Do you ever judge Rob for his partying since you don't drink? Yes, all the time. He Is like the. We call him Rob the Slob.

[Kristin Cavallari]

He loves.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He doesn't party as much as he did, but he definitely. Oh my gosh.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You get mad.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like, do you wake up in the morning?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I don't get mad.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I just. You want to know what I get the ick. Like, I'm always like, oh, like, sir, you're supposed to like take care of me, I'm taking care of you. And imagine like a 270 pound, 6 foot 6 man like hanging over. You're like.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like a drunk guy is the biggest turn. Especially when you're not drunk.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And when he would throw up, he wouldn't throw like, he's a big man.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I didn't drink throwing up regularly.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He wouldn't. He was. He's such a big man that like when he has to vomit, it's not the toilet, it's the bathtub.

[Camille Kostek]

Ew.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, it's the bathtub.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And we would have a. And I wouldn't hear him sometimes in the middle of the night and then all of a sudden at like 4 in the morning, the bathtub has like this self cleaning technology and be like. And I was like, did you take a bath?

[Camille Kostek]

He was like, no.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That is vile. So I appreciate the honest answer on that one. Oh, my God. Have you ever lied publicly about hooking up with an athlete? No, I. Really? No. You guys know every athlete I've hooked up with? I think you guys know every person I've hooked up with. Like, there's no secrets anymore.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I feel like I just watched a video of you lately.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I love it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Where's Just Justin? I love Justin.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's the best.

[Camille Kostek]

I don't know why. Oh, do we not know where Justin is?

[Kristin Cavallari]

No. Well, okay. I don't know where he is either, so I just asked.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But. But I feel like when you do.

[Camille Kostek]

Oh, my God. Red one. Shoot. Wait, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's why. Where is he?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, but I feel like you guys.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Had the Best of the Suspect video. That suspect trend, that was so good.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like, I feel like you don't. You're.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're like.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You truly are an open book. I think. I am.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You are. I've become more of an open book in the last couple years. This fucking podcast has really just opened the floodgates. I mean, same.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Why am I here?

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think I'm gonna have anxiety tomorrow. Both gonna wake up like, what did you we say? Oh, no. Okay, what's your next question?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, no Team Brady or team Giselle?

[Camille Kostek]

Do It. Do it. Do it. Take the shot. Take the shot. Oh, man.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're drunk. Hammered. I'm sorry. I know that you'd get shit for that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I have love for both.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, who was a wag that was mean to you? Similar to yours. I'm not kidding, you guys. No one was ever mean to me. I can honestly say that my experience being a wag was really good. But I think I'll just be honest with you guys, because that's all I know how to fucking do. I think me coming in already having been on TV made it a lot easier for me. Yeah, People were, like, excited to meet me. And everyone was so, so nice to me.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And you were like, if you're going.

[Kristin Cavallari]

To talk shit, it's not the first time. Well, bitch, let's fucking go.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You're like, I'll bring.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You don't come for me.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, my army will come for you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. Okay. Your last one.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm scared. Oh, Kristen.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Who said I did these?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, okay. I don't really know how I feel about this. Be honest. Are you upset that Rob hasn't given you a ring yet?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Aw, too far. Too far.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I will say no. I'm. Guys, let's think.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's okay. It's okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It's okay. Think about this. If it was an ultimatum for me, I wouldn't be here anymore. Like, I generally, like. I mean it when I say that I don't believe that marriage and a ring on my finger determines my happiness and our loyalty and our love. I think that'll be a bonus. Like, I'm not gonna lie. I would love to be like, it's here.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Like, you know, but.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And I would love to show that off. I don't know what's taking so long. If I'm gonna be honest.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I feel like out of all the.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Things we do in our life, like, I really take the reins. And I feel like this is, like, the one thing that I don't want to hold his hand and be like, let's go to the Diamond District together. Like, I want him to do it by himself. So I'm not upset. I'm not upset.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay, we love that. Yes, we love that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm guy.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Exactly. No, you make solid points, though.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You don't need a ring.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What's the last conversation you had on Raya? I'm back on Raya, by the way.

[Camille Kostek]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. Actually, I matched with a guy in Boston.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Is he here?

[Kristin Cavallari]

He was. He's really cute. And he asked me to get drinks after the show. I'M not gonna go. I'm not going. I know. Maybe I'll do it for the plot. I don't know. I don't know. He's 27, you guys.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like, how old was Mark?

[Kristin Cavallari]

24. Like, we need to start being, like, 30s. Well, at least 40s. Like, you know what I mean? Trend up that way. So, okay, Camille, you're a rock star. I love you. You guys, give it up for Camille.

[Camille Kostek]

I love.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You're the best. I'll take one more.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, take one for the road. Camille is getting lit.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Am I gone? Am I good?

[Kristin Cavallari]

You can fit.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, but I mean, I love you guys.

[Camille Kostek]

I love you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Isn't she the best, you guys?

[Camille Kostek]

Thank you guys so much for coming. I fucking love you, Boston. I love you guys.

[Rob Gronkowski]

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