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The following podcast is a Dear Media Production this is let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in, guys. How we doing? Justin is here.
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I'm back baby.
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You for gracing us with your presence.
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Of course.
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We have espresso shots at 12:30.
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Yeah, we're gonna get jacked up.
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I hope I can sleep tonight. I can never sleep when I drink coffee past noon. You're a little after such a at past noon and it's 12:23 currently as we tape this.
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I could do espresso and then just pass out.
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I'm so jealous of the people who can do that.
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Yeah, it's. It's called adhd. I think it. Because it's thinking too. Like when I used to take Adderall, like I could take Adderall and take a nap. Like it makes me focus on taking a nap. So like after dinner, espresso, go home, pass straight out.
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I hate you. I'm. That's like my. In my perfect world, I would have an espresso post dinner. By the way, in high school I would take Adderall and be up for like three days straight. It affects me so much.
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You are the opposite of a ADHD though. Like you are so hyper focused. Like you actually need someone to like be. Take a wire out of your brain. Yeah. No, because you're so. Kristen is so like focused to detail and like the biggest planner in the world. And that's such a good reason why we're like friends because you plan so well. I like want to just show up ever and think I can get into every restaurant.
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And by the way, I'm doing this currently. I'm planning our New York trip right now. I was on the phone for a fucking hour. I'm not exaggerating. Just listening to their music, waiting for the Polo bar to pick up their phone. And then he sent me the contact. I was like, God damn it. I just wasted an hour just sitting.
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On the phone like waiting to try and get a dinner. Like I would never. I would.
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By the way, I have an assistant now too. I'm just like cleaning up my house while I'm on the phone.
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Are you actually going to use your assistant? The last assistant that she had, she didn't have her do anything. You're micromanager. Ew. You're a micromanager.
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The problem is I am so. Oh my God. Teddy got locked in the guest house. Look at him over there. Teddy. I'll be over in an hour.
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He enjoys it. That place. It's a beautiful dog house. Luxury, baby.
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But the was I just saying, oh, I'm so organized. And on top of that, it's hard for me to have an assistant. Cuz I'm like, I'll just do it myself. My new assistant is actually primarily my babysitter. And then I just have her doing like random jackpot. She really does it all.
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Massage, facial.
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Yeah, I wish. Bailey is a gift from God.
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Oh, she's so adorable. Bailey.
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Bailey is so much. So Shout out to Bailey.
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Anywho, that when you were a kid.
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Too, I was always on top of like.
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You always did your homework.
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No, no. Because I didn't give a shit. But like if I need. My room was always organized. I was always cleaning shit. Like I just. I. I've always been organized.
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Did you kind of think high school was a waste of time when you're in it?
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Completely.
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Me too. I thought school was such a waste.
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I was there for the social scene.
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I was there for the social scene. But I also too was like, I'm never gonna do any of this shit. What the hell am I doing here?
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But too, go fuck yourself.
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I wonder if you and I, we would have been best friends in high school. We would have been best friends. But I like really got into all the like, extracurricular stuff. I don't think you would have done.
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No, I was photography, ceramics. But.
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Oh, you were like arts. Okay.
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I was in that photo booth.
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I like loved all the school stuff. Like, loved it.
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Yeah. I was just there to flirt.
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Like, I cried at graduation.
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Oh, I did too.
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Oh, you did?
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Okay. I had feelings.
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Well, no, a lot of people are like, oh, I hate high school. I could never go back. I was so happy to get out there. Like, I was devastated for a little while.
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Oh, I had Already, like, moved out. I was like. I had my apartment up in la. I was all, bye.
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Oh, yeah? Well, your experience was a little different. I forgot about that right now.
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I was like, here, I go to Hollywood.
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You actually had, like, opportunity knocking at that point. I was like, what do I do now?
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I'm gonna be f. Famous. More famous than I was.
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Different experience, not relatable.
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I was ready to go hit the clubs. I was already hitting the clubs, actually. This is kind of a. So I did dumb shit, though. We're like. My senior year, I was. I ran the pep assemblies with another guy. We had three pep assemblies the entire year. My dumb ass was up in LA the night before a pep assembly and went out and I was like, I don't want to go to school today.
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Okay. Then we would have been best friends. That would have been so fun.
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What the hell was my problem? You know what I mean? Like, you had your whole life to go to the club and be, you know, 18, 19, whatever, and I couldn't even make it to school for a commitment that I had.
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No. I mean, that makes total sense to me. You've always been, like, ahead of your time. And, like, it's also people who need, like, a lot of stimulation. I mean, I can't imagine you sitting in high school. You were probably so. I can't imagine you sitting in your house, like, for 30 minutes, like, actually sitting. So, like, in school all day long.
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Well. But. Oh, there were boys there, so I was more than content.
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Oh, Sam, you were going to clubs in high school?
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God.
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I love a mess, bro. Wait, okay, so you guys, listen. The last episode that we did together was about the Hollywood conspiracies. And fudge. I'm not going to lie. I was so nervous to put that out there because I was like, people are going to think I'm batshit crazy. The fact that 99% of people were on my side. I'm like, I love you guys.
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They really work. Because also, like, everyone kind of thinks that way now, too. And it's like, I feel like we're getting at a point, too, where, like, people want to be able to just have conversations, you know, when, like, years ago, like, everyone was like, you can't say that. Like, you can say anything you want now. And, like, because people be like. If you use your platform to talk about misinformation, all that stuff. I agree. You can't say, like, actual bullshit, but if you're just having a conversation, like, be like, maybe this is true, or whatever. Like, it is true, and it is true.
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I'm only saying factual.
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Well, I started getting from your friends online who are like, my crew. Hey, guys. My honest crew will be like, no. People started messaging me, like, on social media, being like, justin, listen to your friend Kristen. She knows what's up. I'm like, bitch, do you know what me and Kristen talk about when the camera is not on?
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Listen to me.
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I'm actually the full on. On your. Maybe just as much. Not more. Not more. You're more. But I don't fight you on any of this. But people online were like, justin, listen to Kristin. She knows. And then some people are kind of being, like, a little nasty, which is funny. But I'm like, you guys, if you only knew. Like, this is why we're friends.
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Well, you guys, this is. Trust me, like, we were just dabbling. Like, there's way more we could do. That was like, nothing compared to the shit that I believe. But you guys are going to shit your fucking pants. So, okay, so that episode comes out great. I'm like, the Internet loves me. This is so nice. And honestly, it gave me a lot of faith in humanity because I was like, people are waking the fuck up. Like, this is great. I have faith in humanity again. Okay? So I'm in New York a few days later. I went there for Good Morning America, and I get a call from my publicist. Anytime. My publicist calls me, by the way, and is like, did you hear?
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Out of nowhere, yes.
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I'm like, what the fuck? Who died? What happened? Like, I can't. My heart can't take it. Okay? So he calls me and he goes, guess who wants your phone number? And I went, who? Britney fucking Spears? And I'm going, what? I'm not gonna lie, though, at first, because, okay, if you didn't listen to the last episode, Justin and I did go fucking listen, but we talked about Hollywood conspiracies, and I said my big thing was Kanye West, I think, is a clone. But also I said, brittany is not Britney. Okay? So Britney obviously caught wind of that. So my initial reaction was I was scared. I'm not gonna lie. I was honestly like, oh, my God.
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Like, you thought it was Illuminati or the Cabal.
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They're fucking on to me, man. Okay? They didn't like that podcast episode, so I'm like, give her my number. Like, great. So Jack, my publicist, knows her manager, okay? So that's how all this comes together. So I. You were my first. Oh, I texted you and you didn't respond, I fucking called you. We never call each other. We love a voice note, but I.
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Do voice notes all day.
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Goddamn phone. I'm like, justin, pick up the phone for this.
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That would have gave me an ulster if I saw you calling in the middle day, right?
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No, I did. And you picked it up, though.
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Oh, yeah, we talked at that point.
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Yeah, Yeah, I called you.
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I was on a Xanax. I was. That's why I don't remember it. That media press was stressing me out. You know, anytime you get hit up in the media and my name gets dragged, I get nervous. I hate it so much.
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Popping Santa.
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That's why I couldn't be famous.
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I was on cloud nine.
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The difference between us, that's why you're famous. Oh, my God.
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I'm like, the Internet loves me. Okay, so then Justin and I are talking about everything, and we're like, no, this is good. This is really good. Because for years we've been like, we need to be friends with Britney Spears. By the way. We are her biggest fans. Like, without a doubt, huge Britney fans.
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Like, we love Britney so much.
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She was. I. She was my idol growing up. Like, quite honestly.
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We went to her concert together, like, at the very beginning of our friendship in Vegas. Yeah, we went in Vegas and I.
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Got to meet her for the first time.
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And when she met her, Britney knew exactly who Kristen was and was really sweet to you.
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She was so sweet to me. She posted the photo of us.
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Oh, yeah, she put on. Yeah.
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And she was, like, reposting things on Instagram that I had posted. Like, we were best friends in my mind. Like, my life was made. I had our picture, like, up in my office for years. Like, and then I presented at the VMAs one year, and she actually won, but she wasn't there and I was. That was before I met her in Vegas.
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She brought the award to her house.
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Yeah, I did. So, okay, So I am like, we are like, holy fuck. Like, we have to be best friends with Brittany.
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So Jack reaches out and he says, britney wants your phone number. Because you kind of trailed off the story.
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Yes, Britney Spears wants your phone number. I'm like, give it to her.
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Okay. And then when you called me, had you talked to her yet?
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No. So we.
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Fill us in. Fill us in. Because I wasn't all there that day.
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You're on Xanax, so you and I are, like, freaking out. We're like, holy shit, this is amazing. We're like. But we're also, like, this is also very weird. Right. Because obviously I was just calling out the cabal. Now Brittany is reaching out to me. Also, tell your story about sometimes when you have talked openly about, oh, my gosh, people in the media and what they do, the game they play.
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Yeah, that's a real thing. Because I. I like, love to talk about stuff online. And there was a time on. On social media where I was kind of dipping into that stuff. And if anybody follows me on social media, you know what it was about. There were certain things that, like, I would dip my toe in. In topics. And I definitely knew I hit a nerve because so many people were like, yes. And then sharing information with me or whatever. And there's this really freaking weird thing. Okay, so, like, I've done celebrity hair forever, left LA and came to Tennessee. When I would talk about a particular celebrity, there was a few that this happened with. And it started getting serious online where I was like, deep diving, asking questions. Don't you think this is weird? And kind of talking about it. And it would start getting traction or whatever, Someone from their team would reach out to me and say, hey, so. And so this person that I was talking about really wants to get their hair done by you. And that's such a tactic to silence you. And this has happened three times now where it's very specific and I've shared it with you. And this is where you and I were like, no, this is what they do. What they do if you are so embarrassing. But it's so real.
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It's real. It's keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Yes.
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They don't like when you're out there talking. So what do they do? They try to befriend you. So this is all in the back of my head and. And the fact that I'm like, calling.
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Out, we are so crazy. Right?
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I'm fudgeing crazy. But, you guys, there is a part of me that is like, I don't really want to talk about this stuff because there is a little part of me that is scared. I'm not gonna lie. Like, it's so dumb to some people, but, like, it's 1, 2, 3. As I say that, that's a sign.
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Oh, my God.
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But got to get that.
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Two icons, Bonds coming together, blah, blah, blah. And then Britney sent me a text and I'm not gonna read it. I would love to read it. Just take my word.
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Why would you love to read it? Because I know why you would love to read it.
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There's a bit of a roller coaster.
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And it was so. It was like, no, that's Britney Spears. Nobody could fake that. That's not. Or it's the Britney Spears that's put out to us right now because it was like one big run on sentence.
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Or it's her clone. Her clone. Let me know that she's not a clone. That's a red fucking flag. Only a clone would say something like that. Yeah, yeah, I know I'm not a clone. I don't have to convince you otherwise, but do you? But it was, it was one of the more interesting texts I've ever received in my life. Okay, so then I'm like, no, yeah, I'll definitely hang out with you when I come to la. Like, that would be fun. And I'm like, justin will come. Was like my security. But then, okay, so, I mean, you.
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Told me about this. We were like, we were like screaming. We were so excited. This is so fun. We're like, oh my God, we will. And I've always said this. I was like, you and I would be Britney. If Britney is real. Britney or her clone needs like really good friends. Like, the people around Britney are shady. Like, it's like people who are using her. And I've always, we've always said in private, like when we like talk shit or whatever, I talk about things. I'm like, we would save her life. Like, we would be like really good friends with her. Like, we would be really good influence for her. Right?
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We would be.
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So we were like, we're like, oh, we're going to do this. Like, we're going to be friends with her. We're going to make her life better, whatever. Okay, keep going.
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Yeah, so we're excited. Okay. So it went from like being scared to now we're just like, we're excited, we're all in. And then Justin's like, you should text her separately on the side. You know, just like, girlfriend, a girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, great idea. So I text her separately and I'm so nice. And I'm like, hey, like, you know, I'm hardly In L. A anymore. But when I come in December, I'll let you know because she's like, we should hang out and blah blah, blah. Okay. And then she just never fucking responded.
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Ghosted.
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So guess so.
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Then we turned. Then we turned because this is what we have inside of us.
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Excuse me. You wanted to be friends with me? What the is that? I'm not over here saying we should jet off to Paris together. That's you, Britney. Ghost me? Well, no, now I do think you're a clone. I don't think it's you. I don't even want to hang out. You know why?
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It like it was funny to me. And I'll just say this, I mean I love Britney. I don't want to sit on here and talk crap about her, whatever. And I think Britney is extremely guarded for good reasons. Right. She is very probably careful about trusting people.
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Yeah.
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The thing that was funny about me is like the manager reaching out, being really nice and then saying like you.
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And your gay fan girling with me.
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He was fangirling so hard with Kristen, which any gay would. I feel like gay guys just die for Kristen because she's a gay man. A hot gay man that's a woman. But anyways, he was saying this thing and it was kind of like this thing where it was like. It felt very after theme. It was like dirty. It was kind of like yeah, like them reaching out thinking like oh, if we manipulate. Yeah, if we give you this crumb and I'm like first of all wrong to people to do it because we're the nice people ever and we won't bother anyone. We keep to ourselves. We're also like not like trying to be a part of anything or any group. Like we're very confident, don't really want a lot of new friends. But if we become friends, you will be the best friends you ever had. Or it felt very manipulative. Like let's give this little crumb. And then you. Because you're a real person, real sweet. And you and I were like thinking about my Kristin. Reach out to her privately and just let her know what a girls girl you are and be like, I'm here for you if you ever need something. And you wrote the nicest message ever. Crickets. Absolutely nothing. So then the two of us, that's where Chris and I are like, wait a second, we just got fucking duped. Yeah, you fuck with. That's. That's when that part of our personality really comes out where we're like, oh no, you don't do that with us. We're not like you with us. At least write something back like, thank you so much. That means a lot or anything.
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So clone.
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Yeah, so clone.
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Britney's clone.
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When you leave it like that, then it's like, oh, I want to TP her house now. Now I'm like, I'm pissed.
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Because to me now, it was all bullshit, which I thought from the jump. I was like, this is not. This does not seem genuine to me. And now, well, you just proved my point. You're not trying to, like, hang out and be a buddy. You're just trying to shut me the fuck up because I'm obviously on to something. I'm on to something.
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Or because even if. Even if she was listening or something, even if you want to hang out pretty.
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No.
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And that's the thing too. Like, no hate to her. It's just funny how this whole system works or whatever. But, like. Like, it's just kind of shitty to not reach back out or just say.
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Like, don't play these games. Like, this has always been my thing with Hollywood women in Hollywood specifically is like, it's such a game. And it's all this manipulation and it's all. It's a game. It's like chess, like, playing chess. And it's like, I'm not doing that. Like, I'm a real person.
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You're an actual girls girl, and you actually really do want to have friends. Like, there is that part. I think there's a lot of wonderful women in Hollywood. I have really close friends in that world that I love. But the majority of it, it's a lot of that. It's like, cattiness and like. Like, it's just phony. And I think that, like, you opening up and being, like, sweet and then that. It was just a shitty situation. It was just dumb.
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It's dumb. It's fucking dumb.
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Wrong people to do it too, by the way.
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B
Yeah, I'm not the kind of girl you do that dumb shit too. Okay, so also, you guys, I don't know if you saw this, but the real Kanye is back. Real Kanye's back? Have you seen pictures?
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A
No.
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B
Well, he's back and you can go do. Okay, I want. Please do me.
- [22:27]
A
Are they real photos, though?
- [22:29]
B
Yes. It's recently not.
- [22:30]
A
AI, no.
- [22:31]
B
Well, @ this point, I don't fucking know. So there was obviously real Kanye, and then there was his clone, which we've talked about, and now real Kanye is back. Can we do a boom, boom, boom, please? Thank you. And I'm Telling you. And he's lost weight. He's back to normal. He's fucking back. So, guys, I want to get real Kanye on the podcast. What the fuck do we have to do? Internet. Let's do the damn thing.
- [22:51]
A
I would love to hear your questions.
- [22:54]
B
I would prep a lot for that one.
- [22:56]
A
So you would want to talk to his clone.
- [22:57]
B
No, I want real. Real.
- [22:59]
A
Oh, you want to.
- [23:00]
B
Clone has been silenced. His clone does not speak.
- [23:03]
A
Oh, so now they let real Kanye come out, and you want to get.
- [23:05]
B
Him on Real Kanye's back. I can't remember.
- [23:07]
A
And ask him, like, what do you think about your clone? Like, how was that seeing someone else live your life?
- [23:11]
B
I want to know about you guys sharing allowance ultra, how they fuck with their minds. I want to know about his clone. I want to. I want to dig in.
- [23:18]
A
Okay?
- [23:18]
B
I want to talk about the Kardashians, how involved they are with all that shit. I really want to get in there. So I need the Internet, guys, because I don't know how to reach him. Send him a dm.
- [23:27]
A
Does he even have Instagram?
- [23:28]
B
I don't even know, honestly.
- [23:30]
A
DM Kim.
- [23:31]
B
That'll go over well.
- [23:33]
A
She's such a dork.
- [23:35]
B
She's the ultimate fucking door. Sue me.
- [23:38]
A
Yeah, take that part out.
- [23:39]
B
No.
- [23:40]
A
Or don't.
- [23:40]
B
I'm not.
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A
I do kind of feel like everyone's figured out the whole Kardashian thing. Like, I understand. Like, it was a very much, like, a period in time because it was like they were like, the original. Not the original influencers, because there was a lot of influence, but they kind of dominated that market where everything was like, show fake hot versions of things. And I get it. People really bought into that for a while, but now it just seems so dated and just kind of like. Like, oh, we've been there. And everything seems like a gimmick now. Like, everything they do seems like a gimmick.
- [24:05]
B
I agree.
- [24:06]
A
Right? Where I think people are just kind of like, no, we're not doing that well.
- [24:08]
B
It's also like, my thing is, like, obviously you don't need money anymore. You're just so addicted to fame that you'll do anything to have people talk about you. Just stay home and enjoy your life. But my thing, and this goes for just beyond the card.
- [24:20]
A
But when you say that you get a lot of things written about you without even trying, do you think that that's the case for them or you think that they try?
- [24:26]
B
I think when you're posting a picture taking a on the toilet, that's what.
- [24:29]
A
I was trying to get at. I wanted you to say that out loud because I was thinking about your budd at home and then be like, kristen, you do it too. No, you actually.
- [24:35]
B
Literally, I have never done a goddamn thing. I hate when I. When there are headlines about me. It actually, that's. When I need a Xanax. It gives me anxiety.
- [24:44]
A
The only thing that I see stress you out. Like, you. You can take anything with a grain of salt, but with that stuff. And she calls me and she's like, voice notes, like, I'm so pissed. Like, did you see the Internet today? Like, she genuinely hates it. Right. And I think there is a game where some people play the game where they want to plant seeds and they want to stay in the press or whatever.
- [25:02]
B
That's not me. That's not me. But I think. But because my. And by the way, I'm doing this. I've said it before. I'm doing this podcast for money. That's why I'm doing it. And it's been nice for me to obviously have my voice and connect directly with my fans. And this is the first thing I've ever done where it's been 100% me. But I'm working for money. I'm not working. So I'm still in the press. And I think, like, that's the difference for a lot of people in Hollywood is they become so addicted to fame that they'll do anything. Like, the Kardashians are a great example where it's like, you have so much fucking money, and I know it's all relative, and I know they have a lifestyle to uphold, but you're only doing it for the fame at this point. And, like, the fact that they are doing all of these things to get people to continue to talk about them, like, I don't know. I think that's gross. I just do.
- [25:44]
A
Yeah. I mean, it obviously becomes, like, a real addiction. I think there are two types of famous people, you know, and I think they are that type that really likes that stuff. And no hate to that. I think there's people who, like, love that kind of attention.
- [25:55]
B
But where are your morals and your values? That's the thing is, like, you guys are moms now, your mothers. Like, I just.
- [26:04]
A
What are they doing? That's immoral.
- [26:05]
B
Well, you. I don't pay attention to them, but you just sent me that picture of her on the toilet, and it's like, you're a mom to, I think, four kids, and like, yeah, you look hot. Like, Kim looks Great. I think she looks the best she ever has. But, like, where do you draw the line? I don't know.
- [26:20]
A
Yeah, I don't know.
- [26:21]
B
Do you? I guess there are no lines when you're in the Illuminati, so. Okay, but here's my thing. I think I'm just. Just so fucking over Hollywood in general. And, like, now that I'm dipping my toe back in the dating pool, little tip. So I'm having people, obviously. Obviously I'm having people reach out to me right now. And I've had a couple, like, big people in Hollywood reach out to me.
- [26:45]
A
Say their name.
- [26:46]
B
I would love to. God, I would love to. But there is nothing in me that wants to go out with these people. Whereas three years ago, I would have been like, okay, yeah, like, well, I did. I hung out with people, a lot.
- [26:59]
A
Of people that nobody even knows about.
- [27:00]
B
I know. And I was just going to say a name and then I stopped myself. But there are people I hung out with a couple years ago that today I never would.
- [27:08]
A
I don't believe you.
- [27:09]
B
Really?
- [27:09]
A
No. I think if they messaged you right now, you would. Are you going there right now?
- [27:15]
B
I don't know. I'll decide later. I don't think I would have given the time of day today.
- [27:19]
A
No, I 100% think you would, because we were just talking about the other guy recently who at first you were like, no way. I would never. And then, like, 20 minutes later, you're like, so, like, what did he look like when you saw him? And you're like, wait. But she's so full of shit. Except for, like, I believe it that you don't. It's a very specific personality type. I think that you could actually still date someone who's in Hollywood who does it the same way that you do. Like, they dip in for the work, they do it, and then they get out. I think that there's very. There's something interesting about somebody who, like, lives in Tennessee, but then they have something to do with Hollywood.
- [27:50]
B
I don't know. Everyone here fucking sucks. Let's keep. Let's be honest about that.
- [27:54]
A
Oh, you think the whole state of Tennessee sucks now? You heard it here. She doesn't mean that. She loves it here.
- [27:59]
B
No, I mean people.
- [28:02]
A
People who want to be famous here. And it's very different here. I've found, like, people who have, like, a little bit of notoriety here, they really believe it. Like, they think it's massive. They think they're the biggest because the pool's smaller here. So if you kind of have like a name and you're here. I think you try to like make it carry more weight or whatever.
- [28:20]
B
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I really think, like, because I've been thinking about my deal breakers and just, like, what I'm looking for moving forward. Entertainment, I guess. I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker, but I am not looking to date anyone in entertainment. And, like, I will never date anyone from the DMs ever again because it attracts the wrong type of guy. Fair to say.
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A
So how are you going to meet him? Because that's.
- [33:46]
B
I'm meeting a guy in real life.
- [33:48]
A
He has to work in your yard.
- [33:49]
B
Like, well, I'm starting construction.
- [33:51]
A
I saw that.
- [33:53]
B
I'm going to have a lot of guys here now.
- [33:55]
A
There's so many workers on this property, too. I, like, drove up. When I come in, it feels like Jurassic park here. And then also when I was coming, you guys heard, driveway is, like, literally three miles long. But I was coming up your driveway, and at one of the bends, when I was going over the bridge and under that waterfall, there was literally a man. No, I saw a bunch of them. They were working, but there was. What do they call those little cars? A go. There was a go kart just, like, tossed off. I was like, oh, is Jackson just out there doing, like, a nature walk? It was, like, three miles from the house. It was just left there. Like, it's. This property is really funny to me.
- [34:27]
B
Go kart has been there for, like, two weeks. And I'm like, like, we gotta get the go kart. But that was my question. I'm like, who abandoned ship?
- [34:34]
A
Like, yeah, and how'd they get back to the property? Is what I want to know. Did they get on a horse? Like.
- [34:42]
B
So listen, I'm telling you, it.
- [34:44]
A
Looked like some of a horror movie. Like, I was like, should I go down there and look for somebody?
- [34:48]
B
I'm crying. Oh, my God. I'm not kidding, though. I'm. I'm telling you right now because my next. My next boyfriend is going to be my next husband. Okay, I'm already putting that out there. I'm. I can't keep dating. Like, I am dating, but, like, I can't keep doing it.
- [35:01]
A
She has a date tomorrow. Can we stop?
- [35:05]
B
Next guy I'm serious about is going to be my next husband.
- [35:08]
A
Which, by the way, I always tell him I go on every date, every going on, every. Every day.
- [35:12]
B
I just. I'm about to say no to someone else in entertainment.
- [35:15]
A
Yeah, I think you should say no to that one is I actually told you you should go though, for like, fun. But I think meeting a ton of people because you never know what's going to click.
- [35:23]
B
But here's the thing. I'm not going to get back on a dating app. I'm not meeting someone through the DMs. Okay, so I. I've gone out with the same guy a couple times. I have told him I want nothing serious because I don't want anything serious right now. I'm gonna go out with him again here. But I met him in real life. That makes me really happy.
- [35:39]
A
That's so funny.
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B
But my question is, how can we.
- [35:42]
A
Tell a portion of the story? This is a funny thing.
- [35:45]
B
So let's do it. Okay, So I went, let's tell the whole fucking story.
- [35:49]
A
Oh, really? Actually, it's not that dramatic. No one's gonna know who these people are.
- [35:53]
B
Except for out here.
- [35:54]
A
Okay, you tell the story then.
- [35:55]
B
Oh, my God. This is. Okay, okay, okay.
- [35:57]
A
Use fake names though, just so that people.
- [35:58]
B
No, I'm gonna use F. Okay, so a year ago, maybe a little over a year ago, I get a text from a friend and he's like, hey, are you dating this guy Cody? And I'm like, no, I don't even know a Cody. And he's like, kristen, you're not dating Cody. He's been telling everyone you guys have been dating for a month. And I'm like, who the fuck is Cody? I'm like, I'm literally going through my phone. I don't even have a Cody in my phone. This is so weird. He's going through a divorce and he told his ex wife that you guys have been dating and blah. He lives five minutes from me. I'm like, this is bizarre. I've never even heard of this guy. He, like, sent me a photo of him. I'm like, I don't know who the this guy is.
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A
Well, you had legit. Never even met him.
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B
I've never even heard of this guy. So I screenshot my text message with my friend Teddy.
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A
Good name. I like that.
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B
My dog's name.
- [36:47]
A
She's looking at her dog.
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B
I'm not good at coming up the names.
- [36:51]
A
No, it's great.
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B
Okay, thank you. So. And I posted it to Instagram just to be like. Like, people are nuts. I think that's probably what I said.
- [36:58]
A
Was like, you blocked out everyone's names and then you kind of. It was a cute story. It was funny because nobody knew anyone's name.
- [37:02]
B
No one knew anything. So now Teddy is texting me going, kristen, you can't post that. You have to take it down. And I'm like, why?
- [37:08]
A
Why did Teddy not want you to post?
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B
Why did Teddy not want me posting that? So I'm like, why? He's like, she's going through a divorce right now. Like, this would be bad. I go, this would help her case, to show how crazy this guy is. So. But I'm like, fine, I'll take it down, Teddy. But I was, like, so mad that I had to take it down. So I take it down. So that's that. Honestly, because I didn't know who these people were. It didn't resonate. I forget all about it.
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A
Really take this in. Nobody's names was on there. So to anybody on our Instagram, nobody know who it was. It was just kind of like a funny story. Like somebody saying they're dating me and they're not or whatever. But then Teddy reaches out and he's so adamant about, you have to take that down. And I even remember saying to you. Because we were talking about this whole thing or whatever while it was happening, and I said to you, I was like, kristen, it's because Teddy's lying. That didn't happen. I was like, teddy is lying to you. He made that up to try to get information out of you. And you took the. He's embarrassed because the other players are like, what the fuck? Because Teddy was lying to you.
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B
Teddy didn't think I was gonna go and fucking post it. Yeah, okay, so.
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A
And you at first were like, no, Justin. I'm like, no. That's what happened here.
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B
Teddy can be a bit of a shade ball, too. Like, shoulda.
- [38:07]
A
Teddy loves drama. Allegedly.
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B
Teddy loves. Teddy loves drama. I love Teddy, though. But. Okay, so we forget all about it. And now I think we have to tell the story. When you were out in Nashville one night.
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A
Okay, so that's what I was going to talk about. So we. That whole thing happened where Kristen took it down. We never thought about it again. Like, it was just kind like a funny blip of the day. Then months later, it was like one of the only times I went out without you on Broadway. And I had a wild night. I was like, on one. Like, I was, like, dancing on tables. We had, like, bottle service. It was so embarrassing at my age. But I remember I was like. Because I'm really friendly when I'm out. So I was like, dancing and like, anyways, this guy comes walking by, and I don't see a lot of people in Nashville that I think are super hot. Like, especially on Broadway, because it's kind of messy and, like, gross and whatever. And very young, right? Yeah. So this guy comes walking by. Kristen's not with me. And I like, zone in on my. That's the hottest guy. I was like, that guy's so hot. Or whatever. And he just, like. He was, like, tan and kind of blondish hair and really, like, buffer.
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B
He looks like you.
- [39:05]
A
A much better version.
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B
Hottest guy I've ever seen.
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A
A much better version of me. So I, like, zone in on him, and I immediately, you know, because I try to talk to everyone. I was like, hey, hey, hey. And he, like, looked over at me. I'm like, come here. And he was, like, waving, and he wouldn't come over. I'm like, come here. And I was like, I love you. I was like, you're so hot.
- [39:24]
B
Such a. You move.
- [39:25]
A
Such a me move. Also at the straightest bar ever. And, like, this, like, guy is telling you he loves you from across the bar. Okay? So then the guy never came over. Whatever. And, like, whatever. Then the next day, I was talking to Kristen. She's like, oh, how was last night when you went out?
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B
Or whatever.
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A
I was like, oh, it's fun. I was like, I saw this guy that was so hot. Like, I was trying to get him to come over because I wanted to be like, who are you? What's your phone number? I want you to hook up with my best friend or whatever, so we talk about this guy. Now cut to your part.
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B
Okay, so then, you guys, I am at a sporting event, okay? And this is re. Like in the last couple weeks, and I'm in the press box because all of these parents and stuff. A bunch of my friends are in the press box because it was raining, and my mom's in town, and halfway through this game, I am like, who is this man standing next to me? I was like, sky. And I had, like, a hat on. I'm, like, trying to just, like, not even pay attention. But I was like, this guy is fucking hot. And he had, like. He was sweet, and he was funny, but he also, like, had, like. I don't know. He was Just had this, like, super masculine energy. And I was like, damn. So after the game, I texted my friend Casey. That's her real name. And I was like, hey, girl. Hey, Casey. And I was like, wait, what was the deal with Cody? Cody. Okay. I didn't know that it was Cody at the time, though. So she's like, like, she calls me and she's like, kristen, that's Cody from a year ago who, quote unquote, said that he was dating you. And I was like, what the fuck? That's Cody. Okay? So I am like, well, clearly that's not true. I'm like, this guy's, like, too normal for that to be true. And my friend Casey was like, yeah, we've even talked about it. Like, he said that was all. And, like, he didn't tell anyone that you guys were dating and blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, okay, well, hello. You guys need to plant a little seed. So her. Her husband, jt. I was like, can you guys plant a little seed? So they're like, JT's like, yeah, I will. So that night, same night, Cody had talked to JT and was like, let me have Kristen's number. Like, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, he. We actually know. You know what happened. I got his number from Casey and I texted him the next day just to be like, whoa. Like, how funny is that whole story? Like, I had no idea that that was you last night at the game. Like, I hope you know, like, I don't think you said any of that. Like, just making up fun of it, basically.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So then it just, you know, morphed from there, and we've gone out a couple times, and I do. I really like him. I really enjoy talking to him. I am just not in a place for anything. But I will continue to see him. But that's a fucking crazy story.
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A
No, it's a crazy story. And when you guys first hung out, remember he told you the thing about remembering? He's like, your friend. I saw Justin out one night, and he was calling me over, and he thought that I knew who he was because of that. Remember, we had no idea who this guy was. We didn't. I don't. When we knew his name, but he's not, like, on Instagram or he's not, like, you can't Google him or anything. He's just a dad, right? He's a dad in town, Lucky. And, like, nobody has to talk about him. Like, no, he is. Or whatever. But anyways, we had no idea what he looked like. He thought that the night when I saw him out and I was screaming his name, he thought I was doing it to make fun of him or have him come over and be like, you're the guy that, like, Kristen, I had no idea. It just turned out that, like, I saw him and I'm like, whoa, he's hot. So does that make sense? He thought I Was like, fudgeing with him.
- [42:39]
B
It's so. The whole thing is so fudgeing crazy.
- [42:42]
A
So then when I met him, because we all, we hung out, we hung out, we had dinner or whatever, and when I was telling him that story, I was, like, cracking up. I was like, no, I had no idea who you were. I just, like, you stood out to me at that bar and I wanted you to, like, talk to Kristen. It was, that was wild.
- [42:55]
B
It really is so crazy. So what I like about him is, yeah, he's not on social media. He's. He's a businessman. And I, I love that. That's why I just think, like, moving forward, that's what I need. Not someone who's in the public life, someone who has a lot going on. Because, like, okay, here's what I've realized. Moving forward, I want someone who I can really learn from, who can, like, teach me things. And just like, while, like, Cody is my age, he feels a lot older to me.
- [43:23]
A
He's the same age.
- [43:25]
B
Isn't that wild? I know. He feels older too.
- [43:27]
A
Yeah. Very mature.
- [43:28]
B
Yeah.
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A
Very mad masculine. Mature, masculine.
- [43:31]
B
But like, that's what I'm into is like. So I had actually asked my Instagram followers what they wanted to talk about, and people were like, who's your next guy gonna be older? I'm like, yeah, I'm, I, I'm now, like, really wanting someone older who I can, like, learn and grow from.
- [43:44]
A
I think you should. I think it'd also be really good for you. Yeah. To have someone teach you things to make you feel safe. Whatever.
- [43:50]
B
I mean, to make you feel safe.
- [43:52]
A
Yeah, I mean, it is, you know, it's like, you know, if you're dating somebody who isn't very in tune with the world, you know, you don't know if they could take care of you.
- [43:59]
B
You know, it's true. They can't.
- [44:02]
A
You don't need. You don't want to be the dad.
- [44:04]
B
I don't want to be the masculine.
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A
Yeah, you already have such masculine energy.
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B
No. You want to know what else is a deal breaker?
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A
I just want you to date someone, like, just normal. My thing is, like, I want you to have a moment where it's like somebody who, like, actually doesn't want attention from the outside.
- [44:18]
B
Someone who can't gain anything from me.
- [44:20]
A
Yeah, I think that's like your biggest hang up. Yeah, I think that's hard.
- [44:23]
B
That's why I can't. The DMS are off because that attracts. Attracts that type of guy.
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A
But it's funny. Because I think the. Almost all the guys who reach out to you are in that world a bit. Because I think it's like an understanding. So many people who are famous think like, oh, famous should date famous. I think it's the worst combination ever. Unless it works. Sometimes it works really well. Goldie Han and Kurt Russell, you know, there's certain people it works really, really well, but the majority of it, you can't have two people in the public eye.
- [44:49]
B
No. I just need someone, though, who's, like, successful so that nothing in my life is a threat. That's been an issue with me with men since I was 18, by the way. Like, my boyfriend when I was 19, I made more money than him, and that was a huge insecurity for him. And he was like 10 years older than me. So that's always been an issue for me with dating. I don't need to make more money than someone necessarily. Like, we've had this conversation a lot. But I need someone who is successful so that my life isn't a threat. You want to know what else is a deal breaker for me? I want someone who's had a vasectomy.
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A
Oh, I mean, that makes sense.
- [45:21]
B
I don't have to worry about any of that.
- [45:23]
A
Because you want, like a raw dog. It. You want to worry about that.
- [45:25]
B
Oh, but yeah, when I'm in a relationship, I'm not on birthday.
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A
Why don't you get your tubes tied? Oh, I like that. Yeah.
- [45:30]
B
You. Because.
- [45:32]
A
Oh, women's. Women's empowerment. Yeah. Why I gotta do everything? Well, I gotta take a pill every day, mess up my body. Well, I gotta put poison in my body.
- [45:40]
B
It's true. I was on birth control from, like 15 until, like, it is a real thing.
- [45:45]
A
Like, women are expected to just be the ones to figure out. And they're like, no guy wants to wear a condom. Yeah.
- [45:50]
B
Like you.
- [45:51]
A
Yeah. Like, they just want to have it their way.
- [45:54]
B
But that's why, like, I think dads are the ones who obviously have had vasectomies. Like, no one without kids is going to have a vasectomy.
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A
So true.
- [46:01]
B
So I need someone who. I also need a dad, man. And ideally, his kids would be a little bit older, so I don't really have to deal with it the day to day because I was like, I can't have a Brady Bunch. I don't want to.
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A
Yeah, that's why. Yeah. I was saying.
- [46:12]
B
So an old. I like, okay, perfect guy for me, 44, successful, has, like two kids going off to college.
- [46:20]
A
That's great. Vasectomy, little empty nester. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She go over there. How his house for the quiet time?
- [46:26]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [46:27]
A
You come over and be like second dad for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It works perfect for you. I get it, I get it. Yeah. This is usually the way your brain works.
- [46:33]
B
It's time that I just get exactly what I want.
- [46:36]
A
Yeah, you usually do. You know I do.
- [46:39]
B
I. I always get.
- [46:40]
A
But you'll try things and then when they don't work out, you end them.
- [46:44]
B
What else is on my deal breaker list? Oh, the other thing I'm never going to do again, and this is on me, so don't fucking come for me. I know this is my own goddamn fault. I'm never going to do a social media relationship ever again. I'm never going to put anyone like.
- [46:58]
A
Can we get that in writing? Let's do a contract.
- [47:00]
B
Signing a contract with the let's Be Honest crew. I will say I am in a relationship when I'm in a relationship. I will forever change his name. I will never post him. I'm not. Mark my goddamn words.
- [47:10]
A
Kristen. Don't say it like that because you'll probably. You might go back on it. Let's not. Let's not put that on.
- [47:14]
B
I'm not gon make my relationship as accessible as it was.
- [47:17]
A
Yeah, I like that better.
- [47:18]
B
Okay. But I really, I think.
- [47:20]
A
And not so quick.
- [47:21]
B
And not so quick. I also.
- [47:23]
A
Recently you did one that was really quick and I called you out for it. I was like, kristen, don't do. And you did this thing to me where you get a little bit sassy with me. You turn into Sailor, your daughter, and you're like, justin, I've got this handle. They're like, justin, it's fine. Like, I'm gonna do what I want. And then sure enough, you regret it. And it's like, that is the one area where, like, you should listen to me on that stuff because I'm always looking for your. Your best interest. Yeah.
- [47:42]
B
The other thing, and I will make a promise to you right now. I'm not going to say I love you for at least six months.
- [47:46]
A
Well, that's dramatic.
- [47:48]
B
Well, the last two guys I said.
- [47:49]
A
It to, after six months is a long time.
- [47:52]
B
Six months is when I go, oh, wait, I don't actually like you.
- [47:56]
A
Oh, okay. So this is a formula for you. You're trying to get ahead of it.
- [47:59]
B
I love someone for six months. And then I'm like, so you're not.
- [48:02]
A
Gonna say I love you for six. That's A long time, Kristen. That's like.
- [48:05]
B
You're right. That's a long time.
- [48:06]
A
That's a long time.
- [48:07]
B
What's like a normal 3 months?
- [48:10]
A
Days. 3 days. That's what I've done in the past. You know what? I told Scoot I loved him. He was like, because I have Scoots first boyfriend, my partner. Now I said I love you. I think it was like our third day.
- [48:21]
B
Seriously?
- [48:21]
A
Yeah. But I felt I meant it. I meant it.
- [48:23]
B
Well, see, that's the thing. I've always felt it and meant it when I've said it. But it's been three weeks. It's been. But for me. Okay, well what it is, is six months for me is a crucial. A crucial time where I'm. It's either gonna make it or break it.
- [48:36]
A
Okay, I like that.
- [48:37]
B
It's like I wake up at six months and I'm. Wait, you suck.
- [48:41]
A
But I don't think saying I love you has anything to do with that. Doesn't matter. You can.
- [48:45]
B
Well, I feel bad because then I end up breaking hearts. I'm thinking about the guy. That's not for me. I'm thinking about the guy.
- [48:51]
A
Oh, okay.
- [48:52]
B
Because I've broken some hearts in the last few years and that I'm not like happy about that.
- [48:56]
A
But I don't think there's anything that you could do to change that with the ones that happen. And I would be honest with you. It's not like you did it on purpose. You gave it your all. You tried it. That's part of life too. It'd be one thing if you like, we're leading them on on purpose and you, you got let down and it didn't end up being what you wanted and you moved on. I totally understand why they are hurt. Cuz they are in love with you and like, whatever. But it's not like you, it wasn't intentional on your end.
- [49:20]
B
Okay, that makes me feel better. I'm like, God, I, I. Yeah, that's never my intention to break someone's heart. But I have in the last few years.
- [49:28]
A
So you think if you don't tell them.
- [49:30]
B
No, I guess that wouldn't really change things.
- [49:32]
A
Yeah. If you tell me you love them, it doesn't matter. Like.
- [49:35]
B
All right, I don't want to talk about this anymore. I want to talk about where.
- [49:37]
A
Sorry, sorry we brought it up. I love when you do that, when you turn on a top. She does this all the time in friendships too. Because I like to really dissect things. Like I'm annoying With that, I will, like, dig so deep on a topic, but she'll turn so fastly. Justin, I want to talk about this. I'm like, you brought it up, you psycho. That is so weird. I know. I literally like a child.
- [49:59]
B
All right, I feel better. I'm good.
- [50:01]
A
I figured it out.
- [50:02]
B
I figured it out. Wait, I do want to talk about, like, where guys go, though, because I think I need to start playing golf.
- [50:08]
A
Oh, my God.
- [50:10]
B
Like, I have. I have to. That's where I'm going to meet somebody.
- [50:13]
A
Okay. And you told me this the other day, and I agree. I think it's really good to go to a place for, like, men. Congregate Golf. Yeah. But then you have to think a step further. Do you want to date a golfer?
- [50:22]
B
Not really.
- [50:23]
A
Yeah. Do you want a guy who spends eight hours playing golf? Bro, it's Sunday, and they're on the go, and they're like, what? You met me. I'm like, of course. You knew. That was my hobby. Hobby.
- [50:32]
B
Although I. I become a cart girl. Another pouring drink.
- [50:36]
A
I was gonna say, some people, like, love that they have that free time from their husband. Their husband goes, plays golf. I couldn't, though. If Scoot went off and played golf for eight hours, we have to break up.
- [50:44]
B
Well, the other thing is, too, like, apparently, because, like, there are cart girls, and they all say, like, what scumbags these guys are. They're all married, and they're all hitting on the cart girls. I want to be a cart girl. Just to, like, see.
- [50:54]
A
You should do that. Like a side hustle. Just on the weekend.
- [50:57]
B
You should do that.
- [50:58]
A
That'd be cool. That's a reality show.
- [51:04]
B
Me becoming a cart girl. Okay, well, or we could go play top golf.
- [51:10]
A
Dads with their kids and drunk frat boys.
- [51:13]
B
I know where did.
- [51:14]
A
And topgolf is where guys go, like, on dates. Okay. I was.
- [51:17]
B
Where do the good guys go?
- [51:19]
A
Okay.
- [51:20]
B
Hotel bars.
- [51:21]
A
That's what I always say. And I always say, but is that escorts?
- [51:24]
B
Is that why they're going there?
- [51:25]
A
No, but if you're not an escort, that's like, I am. No. Okay. You have to. You want a businessman, a guy who has a lot going on for himself. Also, you want a guy with confidence. Right. I always think, you know, when I'm travel, when I would travel for work, and I love this. I tell you this all the time. I love to sit at a hotel bar by myself. I love going down in the morning, having breakfast by myself, you know? And you kind of like. And I was like, if I was single. This be the easiest place to like meet people. I chat with everyone at the bar or whatever. And it's usually people who are like minded. They're on vacation. You know, we stay in very specific hotels. So it's probably somebody who has the same interest you or like that likes the same type of things. It's a real thing. I don't care if anyone thinks that's pretentious. I mean, yeah, there's a thing, you know, it's like that's you love that hotel if they're staying there and there's a connection, you know, you like nice bedding, good water pressure in the shower, you know, so you could beat up a place like that. But then even beyond that, I don't think that you can. You can test fate, you know.
- [52:15]
B
I agree.
- [52:15]
A
Things just kind of happen. And I also think people who like, you know, you're not a hooker, you're not going to like hang out some. The other thing that's so funny when we talk about this conversation. You don't have any lulls ever in dating. Like I've had girlfriends who are like two years in and they're like, Justin, I can't meet anyone. She's like four days. She's like, this is so weird. Like no one is hitting me up. Like you always have somebody interested in you.
- [52:39]
B
Even this round. You're like, kristen, I just think you should like take him in.
- [52:44]
A
I can't this. Haven't I gotten really real with you this time? But Kristen, I've got to be honest.
- [52:48]
B
Take a couple weeks.
- [52:49]
A
Yeah, you did, you did. But I was like, I kind of got to check out on this, you know, and just like treat this like it's entertainment at this point because like I can't.
- [52:55]
B
It is entertainment.
- [52:57]
A
I'm not like, I don't think your life is entertainment. This is very serious. I'm not looking for a heartbreak for my girl. And meanwhile, she doesn't care at all. Like you do get your heartbreak and it's like, it's like whatever. But like I like act like it's the end of the world.
- [53:11]
B
I was sad about my last breakup.
- [53:13]
A
Like, that's the most sad I've ever seen you.
- [53:15]
B
Yeah, that's facts. But then it's time to move on. And then you. Yeah, so I've been again. But. And I'm very. Here's the other thing with Cody, I'm very honest about. I don't want anything. I actually don't even want to talk to the same guy. All the time. I've been honest about that.
- [53:31]
A
Oh, you want to be in multiple relationships? Polygamist. I know a religion for you.
- [53:37]
B
I just want to be able to do whatever the fuck I want. I'm not ready to give all.
- [53:42]
A
Girl. I don't think anyone thinks otherwise. I don't think that's groundbreaking.
- [53:50]
B
Like, I.
- [53:51]
A
No, actually you spent. You spent 10 years of your life like having kids, being in a marriage. I'm being funny over the past, like few years or whatever.
- [53:58]
B
Yeah, this is my single era.
- [54:00]
A
Yeah.
- [54:00]
B
I'm having. And like I said, my next boyfriend is my future husband. So I am like, okay, well, we need to have some more.
- [54:06]
A
Do you get mad when I say that thing? Because I say this a lot to you where I say like, Kristen, I really see you being in a serious relationship once your kids are out of the house. Like, yeah.
- [54:15]
B
But I think it's gonna happen in sooner than that.
- [54:17]
A
Okay, so you wanna. And the reason that I say that to her is because I'm like, Kristen's so dedicated to her kids and then it's like you bring somebody else in. I think that's a lot of times your struggle, you know, if someone was.
- [54:26]
B
Like active, like being proactive in my kids life and like teaching them things and talking to them and helping them out and like helping me out, like, I think it would be a different situation rather than like having a fourth kid.
- [54:40]
A
Yeah, I believe it.
- [54:41]
B
You know what I mean? Mean?
- [54:42]
A
Absolutely.
- [54:43]
B
You feel me?
- [54:44]
A
Yeah, I do.
- [54:44]
B
All right, great. What about like a dive bar? I don't even know where there is a dive bar.
- [54:49]
A
Well, there's that one. Elie Burs four. Yeah, I know.
- [54:51]
B
That's why I went with Cody.
- [54:54]
A
We went to this one dive bar. I was fascinated by that place. Yeah.
- [54:57]
B
Also I got to get the out of Leapers, man.
- [54:59]
A
It's real small town here.
- [55:01]
B
Yeah. Even this is a. Cody is the first guy that I've dated in my little tiny town. And I don't like that even just because it's a small town and I don't want anyone knowing anything about me. So that's also. So like.
- [55:13]
A
Well, are you going to listen to yourself on that?
- [55:15]
B
I'm going to keep dabbling with him.
- [55:19]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [55:21]
B
But I'm keeping my options open because I don't want anything serious. Okay.
- [55:25]
A
And that's it.
- [55:27]
B
Any final thoughts?
- [55:29]
A
No, this was great. You know, we just really got to the bottom of some great stuff.
- [55:32]
B
Oh, get Kanye on the pod.
- [55:34]
A
Yeah. Hit him up wherever you can. How do you find him. Them find kanye.com.
- [55:40]
B
I don't know.
- [55:42]
A
Bye, guys.
- [55:43]
B
All right, bye.