The Hills: It's On Bitch (Season 5, Episode 11)

Summary

Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Podcast: Dear Media
Episode: The Hills: It's On Bitch (Season 5, Episode 11)
Release Date: October 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Kristin Cavallari takes a brutally honest and behind-the-scenes look at her dramatic first episode of The Hills, Season 5, Episode 11—infamously titled “It's On Bitch.” She reminisces about returning to reality TV, reflects on what was real versus what was manufactured for the cameras, and offers her candid reactions to key moments from the episode—including the legendary London Hotel party and her instantly controversial dynamic with Audrina and Justin Bobby. Throughout, Kristin pulls back the curtain on production tricks, sets the record straight on old rumors, and doesn’t hold back tearing into the “man-eater” narrative that followed her.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Kristin’s Return & The Episode’s Context

• First Real Episode: Kristin sets the scene—this was her debut as the central cast member on The Hills. She describes the surreal nature of narrating the recap and realizing her voice is taking over the show after so many years ([01:15]).
• London Hotel Party: The episode centers around an infamous party thrown by Heidi and Spencer after their wedding, and speculation about Kristin’s intentions with the guys on the show ([01:40]).

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The Malibu “House” and MTV’s Staging

• “I Took So Many Notes”: Kristin is excited to deep-dive, revealing the Malibu beachfront house she “lived” in was actually a production rental, not her own—and she only slept there three or four times ([02:10]).

  “MTV got me this sick ass house in Malibu for the summer. It was right on the beach… But we could only ever stay there when we were filming and drinking.” — Kristin ([02:32])

• The house is pointedly not hers, despite what the show portrays ([03:00]).

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The “Man Eater” Reputation & Rewriting of History

• Discussion Among the Girls: Audrina, Lo, and Stephanie gossip about Kristin—calling her a “man eater,” recalling her influential relationship with Brody Jenner, and referencing a rumor that she slapped Lauren outside a club, which Kristin flat-out denies:

  “I never slapped Lauren. I’m gonna go on record here. I would love Lauren to clear that up, because I think this is complete bullshit. And I never hit anybody.” — Kristin ([04:30])

• Kristin explains her only real relationship with Brody was when she was 18 ([04:10]). Later storylines with him on the show were fabricated for the cameras.

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Manufactured Drama: Producers’ Influence and Pre-Planning

• Producer Manipulation: Kristin is frank about manufactured storylines:

  “This scene was potentially a pickup scene… producer led, telling the girls what to say, setting the stage for who I am as a person.” ([06:15])

• Even publicity around a supposed Audrina-Kristin-Justin Bobby love triangle was seeded in the media months before filming began ([07:00]).
• Spencer plays up Kristin’s “threat,” calling her a “real deal female player”—which Kristin wryly accepts as a compliment ([08:15]).

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Party Arrivals & Editing Tricks

• Kristin reveals the cinematic drive-up scenes to the London Hotel with overhead helicopter shots were filmed separately, not on the day of the party ([09:45]).
• She’s repeatedly made to seem “late” to every event through editing, despite being exceptionally prompt:

  “I am the most prompt on-time person on the planet. And that’s just not the case at all… They hold you until they are ready for you to go into scene.” ([14:00])

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The Infamous Party Fight

• Initial Encounters: Kristin describes entering the party, greeting Justin Bobby, and immediately being accused by the other women of violating “girl code” ([15:14]).

  “The way the girls were reacting, you would have thought I was… dry humping him, giving him a lap dance. I was actually kind of shocked watching it.” ([16:59])

• Escalation with Stephanie and Audrina:

  • Stephanie acts as a kind of “security,” confronting Justin for not greeting Audrina and accusing Kristin of disrespect ([18:30]).
  • Kristin recalls her famous line:

    “I walked up here and was saying hi to my friends, and you guys came at me like fucking piranhas.” ([20:00])

  • The altercation culminates with Kristin’s now-iconic declaration:

    “So it’s gonna be like this. Is it gonna be like this? Cause if it’s gonna be like this, then it’s fucking on, bitch. It’s on, on.” ([21:10])

• Kristin stands by her actions but notes, with hindsight, she would never behave this way as an adult ([22:55]).

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Friendship, Loyalty, and Real Connections

• The other girls call Kristin a “bad friend”—which she fiercely disputes ([24:31]):

  “You have to be friends to be a bad friend. My actual friends, I’ve always been a ride or die for… Most of my friends I’ve had in my life for over 20 years.” ([24:53])

• She underlines that Lo, Stephanie, and Audrina were not her real-life friends at the time.

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The Aftermath: Justin Bobby “Relationship” and Retrospective Truths

• Confronting Audrina’s Accusations:
  • Kristin and Audrina didn’t speak for much of the season. Only after the filming concluded did Kristin clarify:

    “Justin and I never actually dated… I never saw him outside of filming. Not one time, guys.” ([29:50])

  • Audrina was genuinely shocked; they later became friends.
• Pinches Tacos & More Manufactured Situations:
  • Kristin points out once again the show’s orchestration—always sitting her directly across from Justin Bobby, pushing the storyline forward ([30:40]).
• Flirtation with Justin Bobby:
  • She acknowledges their chemistry was real, but the “relationship” never existed off-camera:

    “There is an underlying flirtation, and that is real… But I would never say that I dated Justin.” ([33:41])

  • She admits: "I am the biggest flirt on the planet." ([34:18])

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Reflections on Reality TV Production

• Kristin outlines how filming worked—producers assigning cast members scenes and even encouraging hookups and drama:

  “When they're like, hey, we want you to go to STK and meet Justin, I'm like, okay. Like, it's my job. It's like a scripted show. This is the scene we're filming today.” ([36:52])

• She highlights her growth, now knowing her worth and being comfortable saying no to fabricated scenarios.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I never slapped Lauren. I’m gonna go on record here.” — Kristin ([04:50])
• “I'm gonna say it in my face. If I would do nothing. Like, I would literally do nothing. But I seemed scary, I guess. And there's this one shot... it's like I'm this, like, little Chihuahua... just running my mouth.” ([21:54])
• “You have to be friends to be a bad friend... I would never do anything like this to a friend. I'm not a homewrecker.” ([24:53])
• “You guys came at me like fucking piranhas.” ([20:00])
• “So it’s gonna be like this… then it’s fucking on, bitch. It’s on, on.” ([21:10])
• “I never saw Justin Bobby outside of filming. Not one time, guys.” ([29:58])
• “I'm the biggest flirt on the planet. I think we've always known this... So we're flirting. That's very real.” ([34:17])
• “It was like a scripted show. Like, this is the scene we're filming today... It was my job.” ([36:54])

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [01:15] — Kristin’s Return & Surreal Recap Moment
• [02:32] — The Malibu “House” and Production Truths
• [04:30] — Addressing the Lauren Slap Rumor
• [06:15] — Producers Pushing the “Man Eater” Narrative
• [09:45] — Party Arrival Filming Tricks
• [14:00] — Editing Kristin as Always “Late”
• [16:59] — The Party Fight Escalates
• [20:00] — "You guys came at me like fucking piranhas"
• [21:10] — “It’s on, bitch” Line & Turning Point
• [24:53] — Loyalty and Real Friendships Explained
• [29:50] — Clearing Up Justin Bobby Relationship
• [33:41] — Admitting to On-Screen Flirtation
• [34:17] — Kristin’s ‘Biggest Flirt’ Confession
• [36:52] — Candid Discussion of Production's Scripted Reality

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Tone and Style

Kristin’s delivery is signature no-filter, humorous, and self-deprecating—a blend of sharp honesty and mature reflection. She isn’t afraid to cuss, call out fake narratives, or laugh at her younger self’s firecracker attitude. The episode is filled with moments of nostalgia, insider scoop, and revelations that pull back the curtain on reality TV production.

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Takeaway

For both longtime fans and newcomers, this episode offers a fascinating, entertaining breakdown of the difference between the drama viewers saw and what was really happening behind the scenes. Kristin’s honesty demystifies The Hills—illuminating how reality TV is crafted, clarifying her real relationships (and lack thereof), and serving up plenty of iconic one-liners along the way.

Transcript

[Kristen Cavallari]

The following podcast is a Dr. Media production. This is, let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real.

[Co-host]

And open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What's up, guys? Here we are. We're back for another Hills rewatch recap. And guys, I've got to tell you, I'm having so much fun doing this. This might be my favorite podcast little series that I've done to date. And that is saying a lot because I've had a lot of fun doing the podcast. But I'm gonna get right into it because there is so much. I took so many notes on this episode. And today, the episode that we're doing, it's titled it's on Bitch. And it is my essentially first episode doing the Hills. It is the infamous London hotel party when shit goes down. And. And I want to start with the description for the show. So it says, Kristen Cavallari's attempt to reconnect with her Hollywood friends goes awry.

[Co-host]

When she angers Audrina by hitting on Justin.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, I can't wait to get to it. So this first aired September 29th in 2009. Like I said, this is my first real episode of my now season. And it actually took me a second because I'm narrating it. And at first the recap is obviously from a whole previous season that I wasn't involved with. So it took me a couple seconds to be like, oh, wait, that's me narrating it. It like my brain, like, didn't sync up for some reason. And it was wild to hear me narrating a show again because it's been obviously, what, 15 years or whatever. So that was. That was really interesting. So, okay, the episode starts with Heidi and Spencer. They're setting up that they're throwing this party, right? It's after their wedding now, I'm assuming their honeymoon, although there's no mention of a honeymoon. And they're going to have this party at the London Hotel and they've invited me. And then we have low Adriana, Stephanie and the girls are chatting and they're basically talking about me. They're saying that I'm going to be in Malibu that summer, which then later in the show, you see me coming out of my quote unquote Malibu house. Which is funny because I for some reason thought that this house was my second season, but no, it was my first season. And so I've Talked about this on the pod before, but MTV got me this sick ass house in Malibu for the summer. It was right on the beach. I mean, this must have been like a 30 or $40 million house, honestly, maybe more at this point. And they got it for the summer. The only kicker was we could only ever stay there when we were there filming and drinking. So I think I only slept there maybe three or four times the entire summer. So definitely was not my house. This was all mtv. I think at the time I was living in a condo building that I was renting and they would not let us film there. So this was kind of the only option. And this was sort of like, it was great for storyline being like, oh, well, Kristin's in Malibu this summer, so.

[Co-host]

Like, we're all going to hang out.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So that was not my house. But anyways. So the girls are chatting and Adrina asks why I have the reputation of being a man eater and logos. Because she was. And then says, I. Oh. Stephanie chimes in because she had known Brody obviously, I think pretty much her whole life because of Spencer. And she says that I was a boy magnet. I was Brody's first girlfriend. He even got me a dog. Brody doesn't have girlfriends. Like, oh my God, I like changed Brody. Which, I mean, I will say Brody did have one girlfriend before me. I think it was like a high school girlfriend or something. But I was his first girlfriend as quote, unquote, adults. Although I don't consider anyone under the age of 25 an adult, but you know what I'm saying. I was 18. I think he was 22 at the time. And Brody and I were sort of like the second we laid eyes on each other, it was like, that was it. He did buy me a dog, Bentley. I'm. I don't know if I know. He ended up giving Bentley to his mom. I don't know if Bentley is still around or not, but he was a cute little French bulldog. So people do get confused because Brody was my first real boyfriend in la. I graduated high school, I moved up to la, met him almost immediately, and we did date for, I want to.

[Co-host]

Say, close to a year.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And then, you know, now when I'm joining the Hills and later in this season, I believe Brody and I date, but that wasn't real. I never actually dated Brody at this point in time. It was only when I was 18. So I think people get a little confused on that. So any. Anywho, Audrina asks if, you know, she wonders if I'm dating anyone currently I know. So funny to me that the only thing anyone has said about me since I've joined the hills, is it my. My dating status, like, hook me up with a guy or is she single? Is she dating anyone? Like, that's the only thing anyone cares about with me. So low then gets into that. She never had an issue with me in high school, but a few girls had problems with me because I'm not afraid to get in your face. I'm not afraid to stand up for myself. And if you're on my bad side, it's really nasty. And then they say that I slapped Lauren outside of a club. You guys, I have no idea what they're talking about. I don't think that's true. Because you know what's funny? I got. I like, vaguely remember people being like, oh, like, saying that to me. And I'd be like, I never. I never was physical with Lauren, ever. In fact, Lauren and I were friends after we graduated high school. We all went to a trip to the Bahamas together with Heidi and. And Steven was there, and Lauren. And Lauren and I were buddies. Maybe friends is a bit of a loose word, but we were friendly, I would say. And we actually had a lot of fun together on many different occasions. I never slapped Lauren. I'm gonna go on record here. I would love Lauren to clear that up, because I think this is complete bullshit. And I never hit anybody. I mean, I could run my fucking mouth, which we clearly see in this episode, but I never actually got physical with anybody. So you guys for saying that. And so it's just interesting how they really are setting me up to be this girl, you know, like, laying the groundwork, painting this picture of who I am. And it's also funny to me because Audrina's acting like she's never even met me before. And Audrina and I had hung out. We had mutual friends. Her and I were at my friend Nick's house, who lives here in la one night. I've got pictures of us together from before I came on the Hills. And so clearly this. I would almost put money on the fact that this scene was potentially a pickup scene, even where this was very much producer led, telling the girls what to say, setting the stage for, quote, unquote, who I am as a person. Because Audrina would have been like, no, I've met her. I've hung out with her before. She's cool. And in fact, I told you guys on the last episode, in between Heidi and. And Spencer's wedding, we had months in between then, now me going to the London hotel. We had so much time that the tabloids were writing articles about what was to come on the Hills. And Us Weekly wrote one saying, audrina and I were fighting because of Justin Bobby, and we hadn't even started filming yet. And Audrina and I talked, and we were like, oh, how funny. Okay, clearly this is the story that the producers want, and we're not going to give that to them. I'll never forget it. I was like, yes, Audrina and I are allies. There's no way we're going to do this. We're not fighting over a boy. This is so juvenile and stupid. Yes. They girls are banding together. Okay, so Adriana knew me. And then. Okay, now we go back to Heidi and Spencer, and they're talking about the party, and Spencer is saying that because I'm single, Adriana better watch out because Justin Bobby's gonna be swooped up. And then later, he's like, oh, actually, I don't know. I don't know if she's gonna go for Justin Bobby or for Brody. And it's just again, laying the groundwork that, like, I'm gonna come in and swoop up all these guys. Like, no is safe. Like, well, lock away your men because Kristen's in town. Oh, he calls me the real deal female player. I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you, Spencer.

[Co-host]

And then.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh. Oh, God, I was dying. Okay, so they finally get to Brody.

[Co-host]

It's a scene of Brody and his.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Ex girlfriend Jade and Brody's lower third, which is your title card, where it says, like, Brody, and then underneath it, there's like, a little description of him. It says Kristen's ex boyfriend. So Brody, who's been on the hills for multiple seasons, has now all of a sudden been demoted to my ex boyfriend. That's his description. I mean, God, poor Brody. I was like, I would have been pissed if I was him. So it's him and Jade. They're getting ready for the party because Jade's trying to decide what bikini to wear. And let's just clarify this. Anytime there was a big event like the London hotel party, that was the only thing you filmed that day. They're not getting ready with you because they're at the London hotel setting up cameras, getting everything going, especially because when it comes to production, you can only shoot for so many hours in the day unless you've got multiple crews. But we did not. We had one crew. Unless it was, like, a huge party. But the crew was at the London hotel. So this is a pickup scene because they never would have been at Brody's condo and getting ready and then naturally following you over to the London hotel. It was just, you get to the London hotel. This is where we pick up the scene. So this is not in real time, but Jade is basically saying she doesn't want to go. She doesn't want to meet Brody's ex girlfriend. Me and Brody's like, what do you mean? She's cool, it's going to be fine, but you got to watch out for her. But so again, just really setting the stage for what's to come. And speaking of not being with you day of. So they have this whole beautiful tracking scene of me leaving the house in Malibu, going to the London hotel. I mean they even had cameras up in helicopters. These were, this is when reality shows had big budgets. And that was not day of and that was not me really on my way to the London hotel. That was a very separate shooting day where it was a day to get that kind of coverage of me driving my car. I mean, that was not. Again, also not in real time.

[Co-host]

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[Co-host]

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[Kristen Cavallari]

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[Kristen Cavallari]

So then I pull up to the London hotel and the whole time I'm driving, I'm by myself, including pulling up to the London hotel. And then when you see me walk into the London, I magically have two friends with me because again, none of that was in real time. And to me it's just so funny that, I don't know, they thought they could get away with this stuff. And obviously the Hills is when people started to kind of pick up, you know, your nail polish is a different color in the same scene. Like there were like, I remember there were like little things that people started to notice to realize maybe it wasn't as real as everyone had initially thought. But they still, you know, this, I think it was six seasons in, they're still pulling shit like this. So they always want to make it seem like I'm late, I'm the last one to show up at every Fucking event. And guys, I can tell you right now, I am the most prompt on time person on the planet. And that's just not the case at all. I've told you guys, told you the last episode. They hold you until they are ready for you to go into scene. So of course they make it seem like I'm the last person at the London hotel party and I was not. In fact, they had me go in and Heidi and Spencer were the last ones to come in because I remember when they walked in, they walked in with two bottles of tequila. And that is when things took a very dark turn, is when those bottles of tequila showed up. So. So I was actually in the party filming and everything before Heidi and Spencer got there. But in the edit, obviously, they made it seem like it was the opposite because it's more dramatic to have me walk in fashionably late.

[Co-host]

Of course.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So I walk in with my two friends. I'm saying hi to everybody. They make it seem like I say hi to Jade and she just completely ignores me, which was not the case at all. Jade and I never had an issue with each other. I think immediately, actually, Jade and I said did like each other. And later in the episode, after Adrina, Stephanie and I have some words. They cut to a scene and I'm actually standing there with Jade and a couple other people. But, like, it was like Jade was my ally and I was bitching to her about the other girls. So Jade and I never had an issue, but they wanted to really play up the fact that every girl apparently did have an issue with me, which was just not the case. So. Oh, God, I'm so excited to talk about this. Okay, so I say hi to Justin Bobby, like a normal human being, like he's any other guy. There was nothing weird said. There was nothing flirty said. Because if Justin and I were flirting, they would have aired it, you know, they would have showed that it was a simple high. A simple high. After we all were drinking lots of tequila shots and we were all fucking hammered. You could tell, I think at one point I've got these like $2, like cheap sunglasses on and then they're just magically gone like just train wrecks at this point. But so I'm just. I'm just saying hi to Justin like he's any other person. And Stephanie says that I be lined straight for Justin. And it's so insane. And it's funny to me because I actually feel like when you know what was going through my head when you watch it, the way I'm Speaking to Justin and saying hi to him or, like, and he. Even the little conversation that we had, I actually think I look like I am uninterested in the conversation. And, like, I don't care. And maybe that's only because I knew, really, my headspace. But I. We weren't flirty at all. Let's just put it that way. So of course, they cut to Audrina looking at us, you know, and then Audrina says, it's girl code. You know, you don't go there like, I was trying to make out with him or something. Like, the girls, really, the way they were reacting. I would encourage everyone to go back and watch it, you guys, because the way the girls were reacting, you would have thought I was, like, dry humping him, like, giving him a lap dance. Like, I mean, I. I was actually kind of shocked watching it. That, like, that behavior flew. Okay. Let's just put it that way. And again, this could be editing on their end too, but this was a very real fight. So. Okay. So then Stephanie, big dog, you know, like, Audrey, security, comes over to Justin Bobby and I. And she's giving Justin Bobby for not saying hi to Audrina also. What? And Justin Bobby says that he did say hi to Audrina. And so my little drunk firecracker ass has to interject. And I say, he's a big boy. He can handle it. And by the way, my favorite part of this whole thing is Spencer and Heidi next to me. I think Heidi's arms are around me and Spencer's next to me. And the grins on their face, you guys, they are like, oh, my God, like, so excited for what's happening. So. So then Stephanie says to me, kristen, he needs to respect Audrina, bottom line. And I'm. I'm drunk. And I go, what? Which, by the way, was actually my reaction watching this. Again, just the fact that she's implying that, like, something is going on. Guys, I quite literally did nothing wrong. I stand by this. I stand by everything I fucking did in this scene, because I didn't do a goddamn thing. I just feel like these girls honestly were searching for a fight, which, hey, you know, mad respect because we are filming a TV show. I think this is my real first day filming. So I was like. I didn't really know what to expect. I remember walking away from this scene and, well, immediately calling my publicist, being like, oh, my God, this is what just happened. Like, what have I gotten myself into? What have I signed up for? But I also remember walking away Being like, these girls do not know what's real and what's fake anymore. And to me, it felt like the lines were very blurred. I don't. I don't know. I just was, like, so confused by the whole thing. And maybe they were just playing it up in front of the camera. Maybe they didn't actually believe everything, but I don't know. This was a. This was a real fight, okay? So it just escalated so easily and so quickly, and really, it was like the over nothing. And it was actually pretty ridiculous. But so Stephanie said that I said, he's a good guy, which I didn't, but never came out of my mouth. So I repeated myself and I said. I said, he can handle himself. He's a big boy. Then Audrina comes over and she goes, why are you guys talking about me? I'm like, what? I was so confused by the whole thing. Her name never came up, okay? So I'm pissed, right? Because now I feel like I'm being attacked for something I didn't fucking do. I'm being accused of something that I didn't do, and I'm fucking drunk, and you don't fuck with me when I'm drunk. So I go, I'm sorry. I walked up here and was saying hi to my friends, and you guys came at me like fucking piranhas. By the way, I'm proud of that line. The fact that I came up with that on the fly like that with some drinks in me, Like, I love that. So again, I'm just like, I did nothing wrong. And now all of a sudden, I'm. I'm actually being attacked and, like, backed into a corner when I did nothing. So I stood my ground, and I'm sorry, but the girls were coming at me for nothing. So Audrina tells me to step in front of Justin and put the dukes up, okay? And I said, I want you to come. I'm drunk, but I'm like, I want you to come. Come at me right here and talk to me like that. Like, get in my face and say it. By the way, I'm all fucking talk, you guys. Because I'm gonna say it's in my face. If I would do nothing. Like, I would literally do nothing. But I seemed scary, I guess. And there's this one shot. It's over Audrina and Stephanie's shoulders, and I'm so much shorter than them, and I'm, like, looking up at them, and I'm, like, yelling at them. And it was the funniest shot I Thought it was so genius from the producers. It's like I'm this, like, little Chihuahua. Like, these girls just running my mouth. So I guess Audrina says whatever. She walks away. Smart Audrina. And so I. You guys have to remember at this point, because leading up to this, I'm like, audrina and I are allies. We're not going to give MTV what they want. This is my girl. And now all of a sudden, I literally did nothing, and these girls are attacking me. So that's why then I said, all right, so it's going to be like this. It's going to be like this. Is it going to be like this? Because if it's going to be like this, then it's fucking on, bitch. It's on, on. And then I say, you with the wrong girl, dude. Because in my head, I'm like, did we not decide that we weren't going to do this? And now you're doing that. So I was like, okay, if you want to play like this, I'll play like this. So at this point, I'm thinking all bets are off. I don't owe Audrina anything. I never in a million years would have done the Justin Bobby storyline and gone down that road. If Audrey and I were buddies, there's no fudgeing way. Never would have. But at this point, I'm like, well, I don't know. This girl fudgeing anything its own. Okay, so anyways. Oh, little side note, I will. I will say while I was watching this, I realized I'm really happy that I worked through my shit, because this behavior while I stand by what I did, and. And I. I don't regret this at all. I would never behave like this today as an adult. I mean, I was, I think, 21 or 22 during this. And this little, like, firecracker takes no shit attitude definitely served me. Like, clearly. I mean, we made a great show out of it. I would never. I would never do this today. So I was thankful that while it could serve me, and I'm happy I reacted like that. I'm so thankful that I have worked through my shit so I don't pop off like that anymore. Just want to throw that out there. So then we cut to, the girls are chatting the next day, or supposedly the next day, Stephanie and Audrina. And Stephanie is saying, I am not good news. I'm the girl who will stab all of them in the back. Which I just want to throw this out there, because then there's another scene. The episode Ends with the three girls, Low, Adrina and Stephanie, talking about. Well, here I'll tell you exactly what they say. Oh, no, it's actually the episode ends with Justin, Bobby and I on a.

[Co-host]

Date, but we'll get to that.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Girls are saying that my ego is going to destroy me. Lo says, you don't treat your girlfriends this way. And basically like talking about what a horrible friend I am. Well, I wasn't friends with them. Let's just clarify that. Low and I obviously went to high school together, but we did not remain in touch. I mean, I've never had an issue with. Well, until the Birkin fiasco, I never had an issue with Low, but she wasn't someone that I cared for or didn't care for. She just was sort of there to me. And that's not me being a bitch, and that's not me being negative. You don't have to be friends with everybody, and that's okay. And then Stephanie. This is the first time I had met Stephanie was doing the Hills. And Audrina and I had hung out a couple times previously, but again, all bets are off at the London hotel. You guys actually are not my friends. And I don't know you, Jack, because again, we're not friends. So you're saying what a bad friend I am, but you have to be friends to be a bad friend. Just, you know what? Because my actual friends, I've always been a ride or die for. I mean, most of my friends I've had in my Life for over 20 years. Like, I actually pride myself on being a very good, loyal friend. And I would never do anything like this to a friend. I'm not a home wrecker. I wouldn't go to try to, like, steal someone's boyfriend or whatever, ever, ever, ever. So the girls can shove rocks for.

[Co-host]

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Oh, yeah. Audrina calls me a psycho, which is fine. And I do, I will say I think Audrina and I went the entire season not talking. And it wasn't until the end of the season we as a cast went to New York to do TRL or something. And I think that was the first time we had really been around each other. And so I remember saying to her, I don't think Justin Bobby must have been there, or maybe he was, but he wasn't around at this point. And I said, you know, Justin and I never actually dated, right? And she was like, what? Like shocked? And I was like, no, I literally never saw him outside of filming. Not one time, guys. I never saw Justin Bobby outside of filming. And I think I. You obviously on the show, you see, every time I filmed with him, I think it was only a handful of times. I mean, I never really dated Justin Bobby. And she was. She believed it though, the whole season. So I really do think, like, when she's calling me a psycho bitch and saying all these things about me, like, she meant it. And I listen. I mean, I get that. I can Understand if, you know, this new girl comes in and she's trying to, like, take the guy that you like. I mean, yeah, I would be pissed too. But it was after that, when I was like, Audrina, I never dated him, that we put it all to bed and we actually became friends, which is just so crazy. The girls are just echoing again that every girl in LA needs to be careful of me. No boyfriend is safe. I mean, I love that they give me that much credit, you know? Okay, so then the girls are setting up Frankie's fiesta, his birthday at Pinch's Tacos. And again, they have me come last, which is fucked up. I'm always the last person to go anywhere. And they, of course, sit me right across from Justin Bobby. What do you know? Funny how that always magically happens. And I don't know if this is strictly from me or if this was show led. I'll take credit for it. I asked Justin if he's single or if he's dating anyone. Again, I don't know. I probably came for me. He says he's single. And I say, how single is single? And then low is of course, whispering to Stephanie that Justin is flirting with me. And Justin told me that he and Audrina were never fully together. Now let me back up. I never watched the Hills. Like, I didn't know necessarily the storylines before I joined. I had seen maybe an episode here or there, but I didn't know the whole backstory with Justin and Audrina. Of course I knew they had dated. I didn't know to what extent, so. And clearly Audrina and I are not having conversations about it. So when Justin tells me that they were never even fully together, I take that at face value. I don't know. I haven't seen the fucking show. I don't know what's going on. And so I've got no reason at this point to not believe him. So again, Adrina and Stephanie are fucking crazy, coming at me, looking for fights, so I owe them nothing. And Justin tells me they were never even together, so I'm like, great. Okay. Okay. So it's wild to see some of the other little, like the friends on the show, like this guy Taylor, like, all the people I obviously recognize. And I know we all used to be friends, and it's. I just haven't seen them in years. So it was kind of fun for me to, like, see all of the other players kind of around. And so Taylor is asking Justin Bobby about me. He says that I'm fun and then he comes up and he sits down next to me because now we've left pinchas tacos. We. We're across the street watching some sort of a game. I don't know. A game. So we're talking about his motorcycle. I tell him I've never been on one, and he says he's going to take me out on his motorcycle. And he does say, adrina's been on the back of that thing. That's not going to be an issue, is it? And I joke. I'm like, well, then I can't go. We need something new. Then there's a line from me where you don't see my mouth moving. And I'm like, I don't know, Justin, are you asking me out? Well, that's a wild line. He didn't actually ask me out there. And he goes, I don't know. I'm trying to be good. Also a wild line. And it's just funny to me because they wasted no time on this storyline. I mean, again, this is my first. First episode. And I mean, immediately, Justin and I are hanging out and going on a date. And I will say this. So while Justin and I didn't see each other outside of filming, I would never say that I dated Justin. There is an underlying flirtation, and that is real. I will say that is real. I also am the biggest flirt on the planet. I think we've always known this. We will probably always know this. And so we're flirting.

[Co-host]

That's. That's very real.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You. And even when I watched it back, I found myself smiling. I was like, what am I doing? I was like. I was, like, invested in the relationship. So I don't want to say there was zero there. There was clearly something. Like there was a flirtation happening. I will definitely admit to that. So, anyways, I asked Justin, Bobby, how Audrina is going to feel about us going on a date. He says she won't be mad, but that he doesn't want me to go on a date with him out of spite. I appreciated that line. I think that's important. By the way, the whole time, this episode, we're cutting back to Spencer and Heidi looking at houses. And so I remember. I can't remember at what point my mom said this, either in this season or the next season, but she was like, I look at Spencer and Heidi as comedic relief, and they literally are that. They are so funny. They are like a sitcom to me. Like this old married couple, like, kind.

[Co-host]

Of bickering and, like, doing these things together.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And I love that they're like the B storyline that you cut to, so it's not just like us all the time. And I love watching them on the show. Also, Spencer says he puts a deposit down on a house without talking to Heidi. Yeah, fucking right. I mean, that never happened. I think that this house was for the show for them as well. I think they had a separate house. I mean, that would just never happen in the real world. I mean, obviously it could happen, but this was all show led and. Okay, so talk about that. I find the Hills to be very entertaining. Way more than Laguna Beach, I don't know, maybe. Because Laguna Beach, I have a very different feeling about it overall. And I've said this just feeling more manipulated where the Hills. I knew kind of what to expect going into it. I also had years in between Laguna beach and the Hills, where I could fully wrap my head around what just happened. Like, this character they wanted me to play, how, okay, I'm totally misunderstood out there in the media. I just had time to, like, gather my thoughts and take a break and.

[Co-host]

Come up for air.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And so going into the Hills, I was excited. I was re energized and I. I leaned into it, so I needed that time in between. But I found the Hills to be, or I am finding the Hills to be just so entertaining. Like, I can see, see why it was a good show. I really can. And I don't think I could look at it from that lens back in the day because I was too emotionally invested in it. Where now, obviously, I'm just watching it as a viewer. But I still do get a little, like, a little amped up. Like, even the London hotel scene, I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong. I feel like I left to, like, defend myself. Anyways, okay, so now we're at stk, which was a very popular restaurant back in the day. I was always there. And they do have Justin and I going on a date. Justin, Bobby and I. And I get there and I say, I thought twice about going because Audrina has clearly has feelings for you. And I know that feeling when you like a guy, but he's moved on and it sucks. And Justin, again, downplays what they had. And I say, the one guy you can't get, you'll always have a thing for. And then I tell him, I haven't dated in a really long time. And, oh, I thought it was interesting because I also say that I know immediately if I'm going to be attracted to someone or not. I say that to Justin Bobby. And that holds true, guys. Here we are all these years later, and it's. Nothing has changed. And then he gets into asking me what my sign is. I tell him I'm a Capricorn, how clean my house is. And this is so random. I listen, the editing on these shows is impeccable, but to me, this didn't make any sense. And I. Out of nowhere, I mean, I guess we're talking about how clean my house is, but I go, I have the best bed. Like, what? And I just feel like obviously I said it, right? You see my mouth moving. And I do this sometimes where I say shit like that, where when you hear it back or you're watching it in scene and with a guy, you're like, oh, she's obviously flirting. But, like, I wasn't flirting. That wasn't me being like, yeah, we gotta get in my bed. It was me just being like, I have the best. Like, my house is clean and I also have the best bed. Like, I'm sure I listed other things, too. It wasn't like that was the only thing I said. That's where. I mean, like, the editing is just kind of wonky. But it definitely comes off. Like, I'm like, hey, yeah, let's get in my bed. And then he goes, oh, I think he says something like, we got to break that thing in someday. And I'm like, that's what I'm saying. That never. I never would have said that. Like, those three lines, like, I have the best bed. Got to break that thing in someday. That's what I'm saying. They do not. That was not in the order that they were said. I can guarantee it right now. They speak. Spliced all that together to make it seem like I'm flirting with him and trying to get him in my bed. Those. And, oh, I even say at dinner, because now we're talking about going on his motorcycle. And I even tell him at dinner, I just want to go, because I've never actually been on a motorcycle. It's not because I'm into him. I still stand by. Well, yes, I'm flirting with him, but I'm actually, like, not that into it. Like, I'm here. I'm flirting because I'm a flirt, but also, like, I'm doing this for the show. And the thing is, at this point in my career, I didn't feel like I could say no to anything. And I was also a team player at this point. Like, now, as an adult, like, doing Honestly, Cavalieri or Even very capillary. I said no to fudgeing everything. Like, I was like, no, I'm not doing that, because I understand my value now. Like, I understand what I bring to the table. But at this point, I just didn't feel like I had enough experience under my belt to be able to say no. I didn't know that was an option. Let's put it that way. I got it. And I wish I could remember if I said no to anything. I'm sure at some point I must have been like, really? But, like, I mean, I made out with Justin Bobby because it was producer led on camera at a club. I made out with a bartender in Costa Rica who was gay, by the way, because the producers asked me to because they wanted to get picked up for another season. I mean, like, I was always like, okay, I'll do. Like, I was always down. I was a team player where. So when they're like, hey, we want you to go to STK and meet Justin, I'm like, okay. Like, I didn't. Like, it's my job. It's like, it was like a scripted show. Like, this is the scene we're filming today. You're gonna be with this person, like, and then bring a change of clothes. Then we'll do another scene. It was like, okay, like, this is my schedule. Coming from my producer. It wasn't like. But I would. But I would never do that in my real life. Like, that just didn't even cross my mind. So just table that and put that in your back pocket while we do all of these episodes. So that's it. So that's how the episode ends with our dates. And Justin and I do go on that motorcycle, and that was the first time I was on that motorcycle. And I'm excited to watch that episode because I'm having so much fun doing these episodes. And so we'll see what we get into the next time because I have no idea what happens on next episode. So I will see you guys for that one. Thank you for tuning in, and I will see you guys soon. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.