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The Hills: The Surprise Wedding Guest (Season 5, Episode 10)
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The following podcast is a Dr. Media production. This is, let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Guys, welcome in. I am so excited for today. Today we are doing something very fun. We're switching it up and I'm gonna do a few episodes, a rewatch episodes of my seasons of the Hills. And I did the rewatch podcast for Laguna Beach. It was called Back to the beach with Stephen a couple years ago. And I really had a lot of fun. It was a really enjoyable experience. That was the first time I had gone back and watched Laguna beach since it aired. And the same is true for the Hills. I just watched my first episode, which was Heidi and Spencer's Wedding, and I have not seen it since it aired. And I actually don't know if I saw this episode at all. Surely I must have. You guys, there's no way I was on a TV show and I didn't watch because I always, with Laguna beach in the Hills, I always wanted to see it because I always wanted to see how things were edited together and what ended up making it and what didn't. So I know I must have seen it. But, you guys, I did not remember this to save my life, like, at all. I felt like I was a viewer watching it for the first time and I had no idea it was going to happen. And granted, I was only in the end of it at the wedding, so I was, you know, I wasn't part of it leading up to that. So that was all new for me. But I know I must have watched it. I clearly had forgotten everything, even me being at the wedding. I, like, I remember my memories from the wedding, which we'll get into and we'll talk about, but I didn't remember the show version of it anyways or like, not all of it. So this is so fun for me. I think it was even more fun for me to watch the Hills than it was Laguna Beach. I don't even really know why. Maybe because of my mental state. Like, I think Laguna beach for me was more. I was a kid in high school and I felt really manipulated and taken advantage of by producers and I felt really poorly portrayed. Is that the right way to say it? I felt. I just felt like I really wasn't portrayed in the right. In an accurate light. And I think when I then decided to join the Hills, years later, I had wrapped my head around this character that they wanted me to play or wanted me to be, I should say. And I went into the Hills looking at it strictly as a job through that lens, and it made the experience way more enjoyable for me. I had so much fun filming the Hills, and so I am so excited to be doing these rewatch episodes. Really quickly. Before we get into it, I don't know what I'm going to look like on camera because I just did PRF two days ago. If you don't know what PRF is, I've talked about it multiple times on the podcast, but specifically the episode titled the 10 Things I'm Currently Loving. I really get into it there in a nutshell. They take your blood, they spin it. That gold plasma that's left over, they inject it under your eyes. I actually did around my mouth and in my lips as well. But my eyes always stay really puffy for a couple days. This is day. I did it two days ago, and I was gonna wait because my eyes are puffy, but I'm so excited about this Hills episode. I just watched it. And so while it's fresh in my head, I want to just do this podcast episode. So I don't care. I'm either gonna be like, great. You can't even notice that I'm gonna be so pissed. But it is what it is. Cameras either really accentuate everything and make everything way more intense, AKA, like, the puffiness under my eyes, or I'm kind of hoping maybe because the lights are going to blow it out, you won't even notice. So if you are watching this, please don't give me a hard time if my eyes look puffy. Okay, thanks. Okay, so let's get into it. Oh, my God, I'm so excited I have you guys. So many notes, too. Like, way more notes than I ever had for any Laguna episodes. Okay, so here it is, Season 5, Episode 10, and it is titled Something Old, Something New. This is, of course, Lauren Conrad's last episode. This is Heidi and Spencer's wedding. This is a huge, huge moment in the Hills era, right? So they really set it up that Lauren is not going to go to Heidi's wedding. She is going around telling everybody, you know, she doesn't agree with Heidi marrying Spencer, and so she can't go and support, basically. So that's like the big drama leading up to the. Well, there's two actually big things leading up to the wedding. It's Lauren saying she's not going to go, and. And it is this drama with Heidi's sister Holly, and then Spencer's sister Stephanie, and who's the maid of honor. And, you know, Holly is. Is Heidi's maid of honor. That's Heidi's real sister in my eyes. That makes sense. You know, and the show is basically setting the stage that Holly is a train wreck and should not essentially be made of honor because she's showing up late to the bridal shower. She's a drunk, hot mess. She's throwing food at the rehearsal dinner. Like, there's no reason why Holly should be the maid of honor. And, you know, poor Stephanie is over here. Like, wa. Wa. I'm always here on time and I show up and I do everything the right way. And I'm not your maid of honor. Okay, so let's just break it down. There is a scene close to the beginning of the episode. And. Well, no, sorry. It is the beginning of the episode. It is Lauren and Low setting up, having a house. Goodbye party. Essentially, they're moving out of their house. And I, you know, God, it's such a trip down memory lane to watch this stuff because Lauren and Low at their house setting up this party, right? Is such a classic, classic Laguna Hills scene. It's. Lauren is in her. Whatever room she's in in the house. And now we're going to have Low come in. You know, they'll do a little improv, a little shoot. The like, what are you doing? Oh, I'm just packing up, you know. Oh, let's sit down and talk. Which I don't think you'd ever actually like if you were really at your house with your roommate. And your roommate came in and she's like, what are you doing? You're like, I'm packing. You would never then just stop everything and sit down to have a really serious conversation. You know what I mean? Like, you would probably keep packing. You'd probably like. It's like a little messy. It's like, whatever. But, like, obviously for a show, you know, you have to sit down. We need good camera, good camera angles on you, you know, good coverage, yada, yada. Okay? So they have to sit down. And so these types of scenes are always to set something up. It's because in Laguna beach, in the hills, we didn't have interviews on camera interviews. So in order to keep the story going and set things up, you had to get everything in scene. That's what they used to say to us. We have to get everything in scene. So that's why I do think a lot of those shows or those Shows in particular are a little bit more contrived, or you have to be fed conversations a lot more because you're having to drive story in scene instead of Lauren and Lo just filming a scene and then an interview, they can be like, so what are you and Low talking about here? Well, you know, we're moving out of our house soon, so we're gonna have this party. Like, you can clarify things in interview a lot easier. So I think that's why a lot of times we were. We were told what to say. And a lot of times with scenes like this, this scene could have very well happened after the party had already gone down, you know, so you film what really happened, and then they're laying the episodes out, and they realize, okay, we need a scene with the girls setting up this party that we ended up having, because otherwise you can't just, like, all of a sudden have a party because you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? You have to, like, you have to set it up so. So that the audience knows what's to come. The backstory, like, how we got where we are. So that's just like a very classic Laguna Hills scene. And honestly, those scenes make my skin crawl, because I hate those scenes so fucking much. I am more in the camp of, let me just do what I want to do. Let me just be a free bird and film and say whatever I want. Which was my experience on Honestly Cavalieri, and that was the best experience. But again, I understand why you can't do that. Okay, so Heidi is talking about her wedding, and she is saying she wants the most extravagant wedding. She wants real swans. She wants flowers everywhere. She says she wants it to be like a garden. And it's so funny to me because listening to Heidi talk about her wedding, I, of course, started naturally thinking about my wedding and actually how I would do a wedding today so differently than I would, you know, in 2013, when I actually got married. And that's funny, because Heidi was all about flowers everywhere. I was the same way. I was like, I want flowers everywhere. And we had flowers along the sides of the aisle, honestly. And, like, so many flowers, that was probably our biggest expense from the wedding. I didn't even notice them. I didn't even notice the largest expense from my wedding. Let that be a lesson that, I don't know, maybe you don't need rose petals along the aisle. I noticed them in pictures, and then actually, when I saw pictures, I was like, oh, wow, they look great, but you're so. So in the Moment. You're obviously. I would hope the bride who's walking down the aisle is not looking down at the ground. I hope you're looking at your. Your groom, you know, and seeing all of your guests, you know, that are there as well. Anyways. Oh, but by the way, total side note, my wedding now, if I were to get married now, I would want to do something solo. Key, like, very few people there. I want to get married on a beach with no shoes. And I literally want it to be just like my closest friends, my kids, my mom. And, like, I honestly think that's kind of it. And I want it to just be a big party. I want to have, like, an awesome DJ after. I want everyone just dancing. Really good food, really good drinks, just somewhere warm and tropical. And I want to be sweaty and disgusting by the end of the night because we're just somewhere so warm and amazing, and we're just dancing our asses off. Very minimal, if you will. But okay, back to the hills. So, okay, so, right. So Heidi chooses Holly to be her maid of honor over Stephanie. And there is a scene where Heidi is telling Stephanie that she's choosing Holly. And I, you know, I should have phoned a friend. I should have called Heidi to get some clarification on some of these things, because to me, this felt like a pickup scene. And a pickup scene is kind of what we just said where it's. After they've started laying out the episodes, they realize they need a scene here to get from point A to point B. So you go, when everything is done, the wedding is over, you know, girls have moved out of their house. You go and you film these scenes as though these things haven't happened yet. And even Laguna beach, we had to do this. Like, I remember prom. I think it was prom one year. We prom had already happened, and we were at a coffee shop, and we had to talk about promotion like it hadn't happened yet. And what our predictions, what we thought was going to happen. And then we would do a real recap. Like it did just happen and what, you know, actually went down because they didn't know where they would be put. Putting that scene, plugging it in, in the edit. So you'd have to do multiple scenes that way so then they could take, you know, the coffee shop scene. And they're like, actually, we do like it better leading up to prom rather than the other one that they filmed. Like, it just. It's messy. Okay. So anyways, I would put money on that scene not being in real time. I feel like that was a pickup scene. And I really do feel like here's what happened, because later in the episode, at the rehearsal dinner, Holly is, you know, a little messy, let's say, and she throws food, and it ends up landing on Heidi's purse, this brand new purse. It stains the purse. It's this whole big drama, you know. You know, Spencer gave her a bit of a hard time. Was it Spencer that gave her a hard time? Heidi and Spencer, I think. And then Holly gets up from the table. She goes outside. You know, Heidi's mom goes outside with her. Spencer comes out. You know, it turns in this whole big drama, and Holly's like, I'm leaving. You know, Holly definitely made the rehearsal dinner about her, without a doubt. But so what I think happened was the rehearsal dinner happened. So they're like, well, this could turn into a bigger story than just being the night of the rehearsal dinner dinner. So what do they do? They go and backtrack, and they start laying the groundwork and setting the stage for Holly to be this mess, this. This drunk mess that has no business being the maid of honor. Right? So this scene they get as Heidi telling Stephanie, you know, Holly's gonna be my maid of honor. 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And I'll tell you why. Because after the girls called me out on camera for doing drugs, they made it seem like I was like late getting to the car. And it was like, you know, everyone was ready to go and in the car and waiting for me. And here I come, the big drug addict, you know, can't get any sleep around. Here I come, like, you know, like 10 minutes after them when that wasn't true at all, they held me. Okay, thank you very much. But we're gonna do that episode, so we'll get to all of that. So anyways, that would be. My guess is that Holly wasn't, in fact, late. They did that on purpose. They had the girls, you know, Stephanie, Audrina, saying, you know, did Holly write down who all the presents are from? Well, no. How is she going to write thank you cards? My guess is Holly or someone was. Have you guys ever really been at a bridal shower? And no one is writing down who the gifts are from, and no one is checking because the other thing is, too. Well, if it's such a concern of yours, Stephanie and Audrina, why didn't you say something like, hey, Holly, are you writing down who the gifts are from? Like, hey, is anyone writing down who the gifts are from? No one is. Well, here, I'll do it. You know, that's why I just. I have a hard time believing that all of this is real. Because think about it, you guys. We're filming a TV show. We have a TV show. Imagine if Holly showed up on time, wrote down who all of the gifts are from, was a great maid of honor. Well, there's a whole storyline that we don't have now. We need the drama. We need the stakes. You know, we need all this drama leading up to Heidi's wedding. If everything was running smoothly, there's no TV show. Okay. Okay. So also at the shower, Heidi is talking about how she wants four kids and she wants all boys because she wants to be the queen of the throne, which I think is so funny. I think that is so Heidi. I love that. And then there is. Because I guess they're doing questions. There's, like, questions for Heidi. So then another question is for Heidi, how did Spencer and I meet? And Audrina says, me, she is planting the seed for me to come later in this episode. Right. That I. Well, Brody and I introduced Heidi and Spencer years ago, which is true. Brody and I dated. He was my first boyfriend in la, Right. When I graduated high school, I moved up to la and I met him pretty quickly, and we just instantly were together for about a year, and Heidi and I would hang out. Heidi and I were actually really good friends. We met in Laguna through Lauren, of course. But Heidi and I really clicked immediately. And so we were buddies, and Heidi wanted us to introduce her to a good guy, and we thought of Spencer, and so we did. We introduced them. That was all very real, but I can guarantee if I wasn't coming in this episode later, they never would have put that in there. That I introduced them. Like, there's no point like, that doesn't like, fit fuel their story. But since I am the surprise guest at the wedding. Oh, well, they're gonna start planting that little seed, which this is why I feel like maybe I only. This is so fudgeing narcissistic of me, but maybe I only watched the wedding when I came in. Maybe I didn't watch leading up to it. I can't imagine, though, you guys, that I did that. I just can't imagine that I wouldn't watch the whole show up to it, but I didn't remember it. I didn't remember Audrina saying my name. I don't know. I mean, but that's. I guess. Why would I remember that? I don't know. Okay, anyways, so then we have a scene with Brody and Lauren at dinner, and they both think that Heidi and Spencer are making a mistake. Lauren, of course, has her reservations. She is not a fan of Spencer, but Brody even feels like they're rushing into things. And, you know, it was so interesting for me to watch this episode because while everyone is going to, you know. Oh, I think at one point, like, Lauren made a joke about how she'll be at Heidi's next wedding because, like, obviously this one's not gonna last. And, like, Brody thinks they're rushing into it. Like, everyone's like, shitting on their wedding. And isn't it so funny, you guys, that all these years later, they're still together? I want to say this was in 2009. That would be my guess. This was 2009. And so here we are, you guys, in 2025. Well, shit, they're gonna be coming up on their 20 year anniversary here pretty soon. God, that makes me feel old. Is the math on that right? To what I say. 2009. Yeah. Oh, God, that makes me feel. Makes me feel really old. But the point is, jokes on everybody else, because Heidi and Spencer are still together and they're thriving and they're killing it and they're still in love. And Spencer's so supportive and so sweet of Heidi and her whole music career and everything else that they have going on, and I just absolutely love them. Oh, now we have to keep that in. We have to keep that in. Me drinking water because I just. I just spilled all over myself. Oh. Oh, my God, you guys. Oh, no. I'm a mess. Okay, well, that has to stay in because I'm a mess and I've got water all over me. It's all over my face. It's all over my shirt. It looks like sweat. Almost too well, whatever. Here we are. This is real life. Okay, so. Okay. Anyway, so Brody also tells Lauren at that dinner that he thinks she'll regret not going to the wedding if she in fact does not go to the wedding. Also, you want to know what my question was watching this? I want to know if Lauren really was not planning on going or. And how then she decided to go. I want to know if it was show led, if it really was from her. Like, I have a lot of questions. You know what I mean? I have a lot of questions and I want to know, like in these scenes because obviously at some point Lauren knew, like, okay, I'm going to go. It wasn't like she decided the morning of. She knew the show knew. Like everyone knew it was going on at some point. So I want to know where in this episode Lauren decided she was in fact going. Because I will say in some of the scenes she's pretty convincing, you know, like, nope, I'm not going. No, I don't, I don't agree with it. And I believed it. Which, I mean, you know, listen, I think everyone got pretty good at acting by this point. But still, I would love to know when she really decided she was going to go. But. Okay, so. Oh, okay. This scene was so funny with Brody and Spencer. First of all, Brody sits down. They're at lunch or they're not even eating, but they're at a restaurant. And Brody sits down with a beer in the middle of the day and Spencer's like, oh, you know, like gives him kind of a hard time about drinking and because Spencer, this whole episode is on this kick now to become a better man. You know, he meets with Heidi's mom at one point and he, he's promising her, like, he's not this crazy wild man anymore. Like he's not going to be at the clubs, not be drinking. Like he was, you know, old Spencer was sleazy, you know, this new Spencer is not. And Spencer also tells Brody that he's been in therapy and Brody is giving him a hard time about going to therapy. This scene is just so funny to me because I want to say the guys in this scene are probably 25. I think Spencer at one point says he's 25. And granted, 25, I had a kid and I, you know, was getting married and everything. But like that era, like you're, you're like young, your early 20s, like this is what you do. Like you go have a beer at lunch and you do give your hard times about trying to better themselves because you're not there yet. And I just. It just brought me back to that age, and I just. I just laughed so hard because that's such a snapshot in that moment in your life in your early 20s of just your behavior, your mannerisms, your attitude. I thought it was so funny. I mean, I really thought it was funny. And it just. Oh, my God. It just completely teleported me back to that moment in time, to the early 20s. Just your lifestyle at that age is so different, you know, because you don't really have a lot of responsibility. I mean, I was working as a lot of, you know, kids are at that age, but other than that, like, I don't. You don't really know what responsibility is until you have kids. I'm sorry, and I don't wanna listen. Everything's relative. If you don't have kids, I know you have a lot of responsibility, too. I'm just saying, like, well, dogs are also a lot of responsibility. I will. I will give dog parent credit because dogs are a ton of responsibility, I think, until you're like a dog mom, a real mom, like, whatever it is. Sorry, I don't want to say real mom. I know. It's like, everything has to be so politically correct these days. You guys get what I'm saying? I don't want to offend anybody. That's not my intention right now, okay? I'm just saying, like, I. Or I'll just use myself as an example, okay? I didn't know what the fuck responsibility was until I had kids. Now I'm like, jesus Christ, why didn't I enjoy being 22 a little bit more? Because, you know, at that age, you think you have so much responsibility. You think life is really hard, and you look back, you're like, God, I was an idiot. I really had. I had it good, man. And I wouldn't trade it for the world, obviously. I've told you guys before on the podcast, my kids. My kids ground me, man. My kids keep me sane. My kids keep me rooted. Because I would be on a plane to Europe one week. I would be on a plane to fucking Japan the next. Like, I would never be home. I would be blowing through money. I'd probably be broke because all I would be doing is traveling. Like, there's no telling what I would be doing. Very thankful for my kids, for grounding me and rooting me. Okay? Anywho, let's talk about Kelly Catrone. Oh, God, was she fucking amazing on the hills? God. And she. That she holds up, man. She has stood the test of time. Kelly, I love her on this show. God. Okay, so she gives Lauren really great advice. Lauren comes to her because, you know, she's trying to figure out in her next move in fashion what she wants to do. And, man, Kelly's advice, I was like, yes, it still holds true. And actually, we were just sort of talking about this. She says, what a luxury it is to not have any plans. What? Let that sink in. What a luxury it is to not have any plans. Basically, Lauren doesn't know what the future holds for her, Right? She doesn't have plans. And Kelly's going, what a fucking luxury. Like, be so happy and so thankful and so sit in that. And I get that now, Again, at age 22, 23, 24, you don't know what that means. You don't get it. But once you become an adult, you get how precious that is. I would kill to have time, to not have to do anything, to have no plans, to just figure it out, you know, that would be really nice. And again, you don't get that luxury, except for when you're 22. Or obviously there are those rare circumstances later in life, you know, where, let's say you sell a business and then you have time where you can do that. But again, it's really only when money isn't a concern. That's the only time as an adult that you can do that. Especially when you have kids and you know, you are providing for other people. So Kelly also says, follow your intuition. Be smart, be brave, tell the truth, and don't take any shit. Kelly Cattrone, she's my idol. No, but seriously, this is. It's so simple, right? Really simple advice, yet so powerful and so true. And, like I said, really stood the test of time. This was, what do we just say, 2009? What year? So let's say 15 years later. No. Oh, my God, you guys, I'm fucking idiot. Hold on. 16. But it really holds true still. And you guys, it's. Follow your intuition. That is so fucking powerful. Listen to your gut, listen to your heart. Be brave, be smart. Use your head. Tell the truth. Honestly, tell the truth. Because it's too fucking hard to keep lies straight in your head. I don't know how people. I don't know how people lie because I get like, if I even have, like, one white little lie, I stress out and I'm like, I can't. Even if it's something like, hey, do you want to come to this event? And I'm like, no, I. I'm Gonna be out of town. Like, I can't even keep that straight. Like I got to take a note in my phone then to be like, make sure you are not posting on social media. Like, it just seems too much to lie. So tell the truth and don't take any shit. I love that her advice was don't take any shit. Kelly was similar to me on TV in the early days and that she was strong. She was a strong female presence who did not take shit from anybody. She spoke her mind, you know, she was, she was blunt, you know, she said what she wanted to say and that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Where now, you know, cut to. All these years later, that sort of female Persona is being idolized a little bit more than it was back in the day. You know, we are now giving props to those women for speaking their mind and chasing their dreams and doing all of the things. But it really was. We didn't have a lot of women out there that were doing that at the time. And I remember Kelly was very polarizing for a lot of people. And God, I love her though, man. I love her. And I loved her then, I love her now. And personally, I've met her, I love her in real life too. But that don't take any. No one should take any from anybody ever. Like that doesn't mean that you go and start, never start, but you shouldn't take. If someone's gonna with you, well then give it right back. 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Heidi and Spencer are visibly upset, rightfully so. Heidi's mom goes out, Darlene, and she's consoling Holly and she's saying that Holly throwing food actually wasn't rude. And I can understand, listen, Holly was throwing food at someone else, trying to be playful. It, of course, accidentally fell on Heidi's purse, stained her purse. But it's situations like these where literally I can guarantee when that happened, had Holly just gone, oh my God, I'm so sorry, Heidi, I'm so sorry. Obviously, that was not my intention. I was trying to throw food at whoever and it landed on your purse. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. My guess is it probably wouldn't have turned into this big of a deal, but because Holly couldn't just take a little accountability and she had to make it about her and storm off and kind of try to turn it around on Heidi and Spencer. Well, then it turned into this whole thing and now Darlene is out here, and now Spencer's trying to come out here and console everybody and that goes south real quick. And, you know, a little accountability goes a very, very long way. Sometimes that's all anybody needs, just a simple apology and then you can move on. Because, Holly, we know you didn't do that on purpose. We know you didn't take that food and throw it at Heidi's purse as a big old fuck you. Like, no one thinks that. So it was an accident. So just say you're sorry. It's really can be that simple. And then Holly leaves. Holly leaves the dinner. And again, you're making it about you. This is your sister's rehearsal dinner. I don't know, maybe this is the one time you could just kind of like, not just pipe down. I don't know. I mean, again, I would love to know, like, what was real and what wasn't real. But this seemed. This seemed pretty, pretty real. I would say, again, I know there's editing and stuff, but I don't know. I bought. I bought this scene. So then the next day, Heidi and Holly go and get their nails done. And I will say, Holly did apologize and she seemed very genuine. And Holly actually even says she totally understands if Heidi wants Stephanie to go ahead and be the maid of honor instead. It's kind of wild to me that it's like, the wedding is the next day and she's like, listen, if you want Stephanie to be the maid of honor, it's like, well, the hard part's over. Like, what do you mean? Just. Thanks. Also, this was interesting because. And by the way, I do feel like this was a pickup scene. Actually. Wait, now that I'm saying it out loud, fuck, they got me with this. This was a pickup scene because they're laying the groundwork for me. And God, I wish I could remember where in the timeline I agreed to come on the show and come to Heidi's wedding. I don't remember. I wish I could figure that out though, because my guess is I want to say Heidi and Spencer's wedding was sort of a semi last minute thing of like, okay, we knew because obviously, you know, Adam Devello, the producer, came to me, lauren's leaving. We want you to come on the Hills. And I'm like, and by the way, he had approached me years, multiple times for years leading up to this moment, wanting me to come on the Hills, throwing outrageous amounts of dollars at me. And I always said to him, I'm not gonna do that because it's Lauren's show. And I'm not gonna go in there just to fucking light a fire and then leave. Like, what is the point? You know, I was honestly trying to be respectful of Lauren. And with her leaving, I thought, okay, well, this changes things. And I've told you guys, I mean, the money at the time was I couldn't say no. And Obviously, reality TV was my background, and I knew going into it, if I looked at it as a job, it could be really fun, which it was. And I also, by the way, that was a hard decision for me, though, to go back to the Hills, because at the time, I had taken acting really seriously and I had been working. I never did, like, anything, you know, outrageous, but I consistently worked in acting. And I was trying really hard to sort of, like, stay out of the tabloid world, like the pop culture world, and sort of be taken seriously as an actress. And when I got this opportunity, it really was like, shit, man, I'm either gonna go right or left. There's no in between. Joining the Hills was taking a very sharp left turn. And I also knew that if I did that left turn, other opportunities would present themselves as well. But I knew me going back to reality TV was me going back to reality tv and I can essentially kiss an acting career goodbye. And this was me now, like, I have to capitalize on this and I have to go full steam ahead in this world now and again. I'm so happy that I did. I mean, so happy. But I just want you guys to understand it was actually a really difficult decision for me. Anyways, my point being, when I finally said, okay, let's do it, I'll join the Hills for the next season, I want to say the wedding was like a last minute, kind of like we're wrapping up my contract. Because contracts take a while, by the way. It's not like you just decide and it's like, great, I'm signed up, ready to go. Like, there's a lot of negotiation. There's like a lot of little things that go into it. Contracts take a minute. Not my Laguna beach contracts. I was like a condra. I'm like, just put me on tv, I don't give a. But once you wise up a little bit and you have a little experience, you realize, like, no, we have to get lawyers involved. It's like a real thing. So this contract definitely did not happen overnight. But. And. And because I was kind of adamant, like, you know, I'm not going to come in and, like, ruin Lauren's whole thing. Like, I don't. That was not my intention. So I think the wedding was kind of a last minute thing of like, well, we could just dip you in here, you know, to then be like, boom, taking over the next season. With all that to say, I think the nail salon scene is a pickup scene because Heidi and Holly are planting the seed for me. So Heidi says to Hollywood, did you give that invitation to that person we talked about? And Holly says, yep, I'm not bringing anyone. Oh, and yeah, okay. And Holly says, yep. And that this person, me, isn't bringing anyone because I'm single. So this guest that we're not saying the name of. Yep. She's coming, but she's not bringing anyone because she's single. Oh, by the way, why do we have to drop that little fucking nugget? This was like a big thing. We get. Well, okay, we'll get. We'll get to it. I'm jumping ahead of myself, so. And, you know, it's funny, I don't even think at this point I had met Holly yet. So obviously, like, this is bullshit. I didn't get an invitation from Holly. Like, this was all producer led, which is just so classic, but. Oh, right. And then Heidi goes, she's single. Trouble. Like, why is this such a big. Why is me being single such a big deal? Well, I'll tell you why. Because they want all the girls to be like, oh, my God, Chris is going to come in and see. Steal all your boys. And then that's, you know, kind of the storyline they were after. Well, it is a storyline that they got with Justin, Bobby and everything, which we'll also get to that. So. Oh, there's also a scene at Lauren's, you know, house, goodbye party. And Lauren and Stephanie are in the kitchen, and, you know, Stephanie is saying how this is her final attempt to get Lauren to go to the wedding. And this whole scene, pretty much not the whole scene, but the first part of it, was all wild lines. Oh, they're so obvious to me now. And I think. I hope you guys listen to the Back to the beach podcast. I would imagine you guys are good at spotting wild lines now, too. But if you don't see someone's mouth moving, it's probably a wild line. Like, let's just go. Especially when it's like kind of a. A little back and forth, but you don't see anyone's mouth. Mouth actually moving. Safe to say it's wild lines. And I can tell you right now, you know, they make it seem like Lauren's goodbye party or house goodbye party is the night before the wedding. Well, there's just no fudgeing way. There's just absolutely no way this was not the night before. So I think while I do think they were probably really then talking about the wedding, I think the first part of that conversation was wild lines because the timing was off and they had to, like, Sync up the timing and make it seem like it was the night before, which was complete bullshit. Okay, then we get to the wedding, guys. So I was there so fucking early. I want to say I was one of the first people there. And they probably had me come so early so that they could get me in without anyone else seeing me, which I totally understand. But isn't it funny that I'm the first one there, yet they make it seem like I'm the last? I'm fashionably late, which, like, whatever, who cares? It's all part of my character to come in fashionably late, you know, and, and then obviously you want everyone's reactions like, oh, my God, it's Kristen Cavalieri. Oh, my God. So they also told everybody where to sit in the church so I can use me, for example, when they were saying, okay, Kristen, you're going to go out there. Here's where everyone is sitting. So Justin Bobby is on the right and he's next to. I don't remember the other guy's name, sorry. We want you to sit in between them, not just go and squeeze next to Justin Bobby. We want you to cross in front of Justin Bobby and sit right smack dab in the middle of him and his friend. Because why in the fuck would I ever do that, you guys? Could you like, what, imagine, I did that on my own accord. It's like so outrageous. But by the way, at the time, I'm like, okay, yeah, no problem. What? And listen, I'm. I'm glad I did it. It's not like, that's like, not one of those things where I'd be like, I would never do that. Like, yeah, I would never do that. But also, we're filming a TV show and let's make it really good. And I also, at this point, I knew this character that they wanted me to be. So I'm like, yes, I'm all in. Because I'm going to have fun with this. I'm going to make this work for me. Now, after I was really unhappy with the whole experience on Laguna, or I shouldn't say that I had a lot of fun doing Laguna, but just again, just how I was portrayed, that was, that was a hard thing for me to wrap my head around. Let's just put it that way. This. I'm like, okay. Because, like, could you imagine in real life, if you're late going into any sort of social function and you have to sit down, you would. No one would ever go up to just two guys that they don't know and sit in the middle of that. Like, no one would ever do that. Okay. Except for me. Except for Kristen on the Hills. So anyways, and that's, of course, to then piss off Audrina and kind of get everyone going like, oh, my God, she's sitting next to Justin Bobby. Which I didn't realize at the time. They already knew what storyline they wanted. I didn't realize that until I watched this wedding episode. You guys, I knew which the next episode that we're going to do is the London Hotel. It was like my real first day filming, when, you know, you're going to come at me like a bunch of fucking piranhas. That scene, which we'll get to, I knew after that that, oh, okay, I see what's happening here. They do want me to date Justin Bobby and Audrina to be mad and. Because, by the way, in between the wedding episode and my real first episode of the London Hotel, there was a break. Because this. Heidi's wedding is the season finale. Well, no, it's interesting. When you go on Netflix or whatever, it looks like it's one big season. Like, I take over halfway through season five, because it is. It's all, what? Season five. And then there's another season six. But it really wasn't like they were two separate seasons. Like, it was. I think. Oh, no, you know what they called it Season 5A and Season 5B and B is when I took over. But it was like a. They were like. As far as production goes, they were two totally separate seasons. So we filmed the wedding, and. And then we didn't film for a few months. And in between those few months, there was, like, Us Weekly articles saying that, you know, I was gonna go for Justin Bobby and. And Heidi or sorry. And Audrina and I hated each other and all this. And Audrey and I talked, and we were like, oh, this is the storyline that they want. Well, we're not gonna give that to them. Literally, Audrina and I had those conversations, and then we get to the London Hotel and things went awry. And we're gonna get to that. I can't wait. Wait for that episode. But what I didn't realize in the midst of all of this, until now when I went back and watched this, is that even at the wedding, they knew before I even fudgeing stepped foot on set, they knew the direction that they were going to go, because why else would they have me sit next to Justin Bobby? God, it's amazing. Isn't that crazy, though? Like, what goes on behind the scenes of a reality show, I don't think they're all like this, but, man, Laguna and the Hills were. God, they had storyboards. It was like a whole. May as well have been a scripted show. Well, it was really good improv. I will say. We were all fabulous at improv. Okay. Anywho, so, you know. Okay, so Lauren shows up to the wedding. Oh, my God. We. Oh, thank God. We had no idea she was gonna show up. Obviously she was gonna show up. You know, we knew. But I do think for Lauren ending her run on the Hills, Heidi's wedding, like, she had to show up. This was like, the perfect little button for them. Just end it with a nice bow, you know, There was. There was no other option. Lauren had to show up. That girls had to have their moment before Heidi walks down the aisle. Like, and it was a very sweet moment. And it just. It was very sweet. Also, I want to say Heidi knew Lauren was coming because I think I remember this because it's Heidi's real wedding, obviously, Right? You can't spring something like that on Heidi. I think Heidi would have been really pissed. I would put money on the fact that I think Heidi actually knew. And Heidi and Spencer knew I was coming. Obviously. They were the only cast members that knew I was coming, though. No one else knew. That was a surprise. Okay, so here I come down the aisle, and you know what I remember? Oh, so I must have seen it actually, because what I remember watching this back, the only thing I remember is that I didn't wear a fucking bra. And I was so nervous. Right? I'm nervous for numerous reasons. One, I haven't seen these people in a long ass time to. They have me coming in late. So I know as soon as I open those doors, everyone's going to be staring at me. And I hate that, by the way. Like, I know people think I, like, love attention and everything, and I do like attention to a degree, but not in an intimate setting like that where I walk in somewhere and everyone's just staring at me. Like, that doesn't do it for me. That actually makes me really nervous. And so because I'm nervous, you know? And obviously, like, me being here is going to make everyone go, what the is going on? Obviously. And so I know all of that. So I'm nervous. So I'm walking really fast down the aisle, and I don't have a bra on. And my boobs were really big. Okay. I always had really big boobs until I breastfed. Right? And then I had to get fake Boobs. But high school, early 20s. I had the biggest boobs, so my boobs are going. And I just were being like, oh, my God, I couldn't put a bra on. Also, the curls in my hair. Are you kidding me? I got my hair and makeup done, by the way. Oh, my God. My makeup looked good, but my hair was so bad, you guys. It was like those like pageant curls, but they, like, turned inward. Oh, it was so bad. It was so bad. But okay, so I walk in and I'm getting all these looks from everybody, right? And everyone's going like Kristen Capillary. You know, Lowe's asking why I'm there. Like, why is she here? And, you know, and then Lauren finally comes in and low tells her that I'm there. And I will say everyone seemed genuinely shocked. Well, obviously, like, those are all real reactions. Lauren definitely seemed shocked. I mean, she had no idea. And you guys, what are the chances Lauren and I have the same color dress on? Like, are you kidding me? How does that happen? That's real. Because no one told me what to wear. I mean. And they do ask you. I think they did ask me what I was wearing, so I wonder if they had anything to do with Lauren. But I don't know. This kind of goes back to Laguna, the black and white party. No one told me to wear white. I was the only one that wore white, so what the fuck? That was a crazy ass coincidence, you know, and the fact that Lauren and I had the same color dress on, like, are you kidding me? You can't make this up. So they really did get these genuine, just ridiculous moments that were just so good for tv. But I personally think, because Lauren's reaction is very. She's shocked. And I think the look on her face, what I got from it is that, you know, Lauren's showing up to this wedding knowing this is the last time she's ever gonna film. I think there's probably part of her that's like, good luck to you guys. Like, there's no show without me sort of a thing. And that probably feels pretty good for her, right? Knowing that, like, you're the main draw of a show. And, like, by the way, her supporting cast was phenomenal. And they are just as valuable. I'm not taking away from anybody. I actually think. Well, I actually think sometimes the supporting cast is more valuable without just in general. Okay. But she's probably feeling pretty good about herself, riding a little high, and me being there is kind of a knock, being like, no, actually the Hills is going to Carry on and go on just fine without you. Don't take this out of context. You guys, the weeklies, Please don't fucking write this because that's really annoying. I'm just saying that I can understand what was going through her head. Or maybe I'm just projecting because that's how I would have felt. That's how I would have felt. Actually, let's put it that way. That's how I would have felt. It would have taken a little, a little steam out of me, you know what I'm saying? To be like, oh wait, oh wait, the show's not over without me. That's how I would have felt. Okay, so I, I can kind of read that on her face is what I. Is what I think I could be wrong. Also, I noticed I did this like one little smirk where I like look straight ahead of me and I go like, they used it twice. So is it funny that at the time no one could point this stuff out though? Like, I don't know. Also, who the fuck am I looking at? What am I smiling about? I maybe think I could have. I vaguely remember this. I think I locked eyes with Spencer and it was like a. I'm here. Like, yep, this is all happening. Like, yep, it's really going down. You know, I think that's what that was. But they used it twice and it was this sort of like, yep, this little smirk. It played very well with what they were going for and you know, just all of the looks that they had us doing, you know, like me at Brody, you know, Brody at me, Lauren at me, you know, Audrina at Justin, Bobby, like, it's just a lot of looks, a lot of drama and you know, and then watching Heidi and Spencer get married, I mean, this is their real wedding. It was really cool to go back and watch that. And it was just, it was so sweet. And you know, then afterwards everyone goes outside the church and they had me come out alone also, they must have held me and then had me come out, which, fine, whatever. And then of course all the girls were like, oh my God, what are you doing here? And I do say, which I, the producers must have told me to say, you know, well, that I, I'm the one who introduced Heidi and Spencer. And then I say, I need you to hook me up with a guy. Why would I say that? Why was everything about guys? It's all starting to make sense, you know, isn't it? As a 38 year old woman, I'm sitting here bitching, I'm like, why does the press always want to put me in a box? Why is it always about guys and dating and sexual. Well, it started right here. And that could have been all for me. That could have been for me. But I don't know. That was my go to. Yeah, maybe. Maybe that was my go to, like hook me up. Hook me up with a guy. What the. And then you. There's something about Justin Bobby and I'm like, yeah, I just met Justin today. He's such a stand up guy. I say that so sarcastically, but they made it seem like I'm really like, no, I like Justin. Like, what? Like, no, none of that was real. I said it so sarcastically. And they make it seem like Audrina is kind of upset about that but that I had zero interest in him. Like literally zero. And we'll get into it in the next few episodes. But I never was interested in Justin Bobby, like ever, ever, ever. That was all for the show. I never saw him outside of filming. But again, table that. Well, I'll give you guys more details on that, but let's see what else. Oh, and then I catch the bouquet. That was real. I mean, I think Heidi was probably like kind of throwing it my way, but that was definitely real. And it is kind of funny because I do think I was the next one to get married because I met my ex husband. Right. I think it was a month after we wrapped the Hills, which was probably about a year later. And then I, yeah, I did get married. I was the next. I was the next one. So I think there's truth to that. And then they show Lauren leaving all by herself and the music and you know, it's like, there goes Lauren in her car on her lonesome. That's the last time we ever saw Elsie. And then it's like Kristen's taking over. How fun. Oh, why is this so much more fun for me than Laguna? I love that we're going to do this. And I initially my plan was to do like three or four episodes. I wasn't going to do my full two seasons, but I don't know, you guys, maybe it'd be kind of fun. What I might do is I might see how these episodes perform and if they do exceptionally well, maybe I'll do all of them. Fuck it. So we'll see. But I hope that this has been fun for you guys. This is really fun for me. And so buckle up, baby, because this is going to be a wild ride. I love you guys. I'll see you next time week. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.