← Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is, let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. All right, Justin's back, guys.
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
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And today is going to be fun because we're actually going to play SIP or SP Phil, like the old days.
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Your favorite game.
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Your favorite game. So we have written questions for each other. We have no idea what's coming our way.
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No idea, no idea.
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And we are actually going to play with a new drink I'm excited to show you guys. So Kahlua that everybody knows and loves. I don't know if you guys are fans of Espresso Mar.
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You know that I'm a huge Kahlua fan. I know I told you this when she told me that what we were doing today. I'm actually, like, a huge Kalua drinker at the holidays. Every day, I put clue in my coffee. Drunk. No, literally, like, by the end, once Christmas is over, scoots like, okay, we gotta, like, back this up a little bit.
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Well, then I think you're gonna really like this. So Kahlua partnered with Dunkin, and they have the caramel swirl cream liqueur. So this is great because it's made with real coffee, real cream, and the real Dunkin swirl flavor. This ready to pour liqueur is creamy, irresistibly smooth, and perfectly sippable. So we are just gonna do this in a chilled glass. You can put it over ice. You can pour caramel sauce on it. You can do whatever your little heart desires. But, Justin, I. Oh, good.
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In your iced coffee. I mean, I haven't had the caramel yet, so I'm actually really excited.
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It really is. It really is good. And I love an espresso martini. Oh, there's nothing better. And that's. Kalua is perfect for that. So I'm gonna measure these out. Okay, hang on. I'm gonna give us 2 ounces each. Just.
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All right, little bartender. Oh, that would have been fun for you. I could see you out there shaking it up. You would love it. To, like, all the guys at the bar, all eyes on you. You'd have the cutest little outfit on. Maybe a little butt cheek coming out.
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Exactly.
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I would.
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I would have thrived.
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Okay.
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Oh, how cute are these glasses, too?
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They're so cute.
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Cheers.
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Do a little cheers and taste.
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Cheers. Yeah, let's try it.
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These Are so cute.
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These glasses, really?
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They're so cute. Biggs.
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Yum. Oh, my God, that's so good. It really is good.
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So good.
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That's so good. Caramel and coffee. Like, are you kidding me?
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That's so good. I just want to drink the whole thing right now.
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Do it.
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There's more.
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You can have more. Okay, so before we get into sip or spill, let me just tell you guys where you can find Kahlua Duncan Caramel Swirl at retailers nationwide, including Walmart, Total Wine, Albertsons, Kroger, Ralph's, Safeway, Bevmo, Publix, and more. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Please drink responsibly. And for additional information, visit kalua.com and follow Kalua on Instagram. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Drink responsibly. Kahlua Caramel swirl cream liqueur. 16% alcohol by volume 32 proof. Copyright 2025. Imported by the Kahlua Company, New York, NY. Duncan Trademarks owned by DDIP Holder, LLC. Used under license Copyright 2025 okay, so we're going to play sip or spill. We have our yummy Kahlua drinks here. So do you want to start, or.
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Do you want me to go one and one, back and forth?
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Yeah.
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Oh, my gosh, I'm nervous. You know me, like, always so dorky. Like, why am I always like, no, you're so cute. No, I mean, in a sense, like, you're gonna be, like, goofy and funny, and I'm gonna be, like, coming up with something really deep.
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Oh, I see. That's okay. I mean, I have kind of a mixed bag.
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So you go first.
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Oh, me go first.
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Okay.
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Okay. I'm gonna start just small. Are you bored living in Nashville? Do you actually like it here?
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Ooh, that is so good. Honest to God answer. I love it here. So much for our home base, right? I don't feel like I'm very challenged here on a daily basis, but I think that I love it for our home base. And you really are a big reason why we stay here. Like, I scoot and I talk about this all the time, and, like, I. I can't move away from you until you're in, like, a serious relationship. And when you're kids are, like, out of the house, I just really can't. But with that said, I would never live somewhere where I was miserable. I love our home. I love our neighbors. Our neighbors are a big part of it. Like, we don't want to move because of our neighbors. Actually, like, is Another part of it. So, yeah, I do love it here also. I have the luxury. I say this all the time. I have the luxury that we can travel all the time. If I was here, like a 9 to 5 and my whole life was here, I don't think I would. It's also, like, not the most, like, gay place, which I don't need to be in, like, the gayest place in the world or whatever, but, like, I don't want to be the only gay guy in the neighborhood all the time, you know? So, no, I do love it and I'll be so for real. I'm so thankful for you that you got us here because, like, had to happen. I had to get out of L. A. Scoot and I were talking about this two nights ago. Like, had we not moved, Like, I was like, could you imagine if we were just still in L. A?
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Oh, my God, you know, different your life would be.
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I think also sometimes people that follow us or watch the show, very cavalier. Like, people always thought that that was, like, something for the show, but. But Scoot and I really were leaving la, but it was taking us so long to figure out where. And then I remember I came to film the show another season with you, and I loved it so much. Then Scoot and I started talking about it. So all of that was real. We moved here. But, like, it happened so fast, kind of, because the show, like, the show sped it up. And I'm so thankful for that. Thank God.
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I'm so thankful that you're here too. I can't imagine if you weren't here in the last, like, six months.
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Oh, my God. You and I always talk about, like, things happening the way that they're supposed to and trusting the process and all. This was our script, like, this was our life script for, like, a hundred percent. You know, there's certain things you think in life where you're like, had I taken that turn or done this, I wouldn't have experienced that. There's no way that the universe could have kept you and I away from each other.
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Agreed.
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You know what I mean?
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We've said that string theory, you and.
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Me, but we've always said that, Like, I know for a fact that, like, we would have found each other or been together no matter what. We really are like twin flames. Like, you are a huge part of, like, you're my twin flame. No, literally, like, there's no way.
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So, yeah, we were destined to be together for sure.
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And we'll be here for, like, quite a bit longer until Eight more years. Yeah. No, I mean, it's. We'll all. We'll for sure keep a house here. We're looking right now at, like, beach houses in different areas. We have that condo downtown. I think we're going to sell the condo downtown and maybe, like, a beach house. We love New England, so we want to spend a big part of it there. But, yeah, absolutely. I will always have a place here until your kids are gone. Okay, good. Pinky swear?
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Yeah. Because I'll murder you. All right. I love the honesty.
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Oh, it's my turn.
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Your turn.
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Well, we're done.
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That's a wrap.
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Okay.
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Want to just sip on my drink? It really is so good.
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Let's take a sip. We deserve it. It's honestly so good.
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This would be so good in coffee. God, it's so you can taste the caramel.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's like the perfect amount of caramel.
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No, it's really, really good. Would you rather relive the Hills reunion or read your old tweets out loud on stage?
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Oh, my God, that's funny. Oh, we did do a Hills reunion, huh?
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Yeah. You wore that. Cool drive.
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Yeah.
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Remember, we talked about this? I thought you look so hot that night. And then we pulled up a picture recently. Your extensions didn't match. Literally.
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Actually, I think that was my hair. Thank you.
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Was it? Your hair was so thick and good in that.
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It must have been because I didn't get extensions past, like.
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You really didn't have a lot of extensions at all?
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No, I had them, I think twice, but more when I was, like, 19 or something.
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When your hair was really broken. Once we got your hair healthy, like, you have the thickest normal hair.
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Oh, and I was like, so. Like, so blonde for a minute.
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Yeah.
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I think it would be really fun to do a Hills reunion, especially after I just did the Laguna beach reunion. Like, I would love to get in the same room with Heidi and Spencer and Brody and Adrina and the whole.
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I think it would actually be more entertaining.
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I think it would be because it's bigger personality.
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Yeah. Those people there. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah. And people who are not afraid to just, like, put it all out there.
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Do you have old tweets and stuff that you're mortified about?
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I don't think so. I never was like, a crazy tweeter. So were you?
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Well, no, but I'm not famous. No one would care what my tweets were back in the day. But I always think about that because you know how much I like to talk in social media. I say, like, whatever is on my mind or whatever. If I was, like, famous and Twitter was a thing, I would probably be canceled by now. The shit I used to say. Yeah. I mean, I never would have said anything. Like, I just talk too much. So, yeah, I would be afraid of.
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What I was always. Because I was famous then. So I was always very careful at, like, what I was saying, but a.
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Lot of people weren't.
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So it, like, made Chrissy Teigen famous because of what she was saying. Remember? She was, like, so controversial, but she was funny. Oh, that was, like, how people started to know who she was.
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Yeah. Love it.
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Okay, that was a good one. Is there a guy that you think I miss or that I still think about?
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Oh, my God, you're such a bitch. You, like, trying to get me in trouble right now.
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That's the whole point of the first bill I love. Then you can be like, I'm going to sip. I'm not answering.
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I actually love this shit, by the way.
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I know.
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So don't hold back. I love it. Is there a guy that I think that you miss or, like, still think about? Can I be honest? Yeah. That's the whole point. Are you going to get mad at me?
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No. Get mad at you? When have I ever gotten mad at you and been like, I'm mad at you?
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No, not. Not that you would get mad at me. The thing doing I ever think about is a headline.
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Okay, fair.
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If somebody. If I said no, I actually don't. I think that you're very good about kind of, like, moving on and that being a thing of your past. I think there's still something cute about Mark to the both of us. Because I think that since your divorce, Mark, like, I think you felt something. Like, it was, like, young puppy love. And I don't think you felt that in a really long time. I don't think there's even a part of you that wants to go back to him. And I know that you've 100% closed that door. Like, closed it. But I think that probably sometimes you're like, oh, we were so sweet and cute. It was so easy.
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Yeah.
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Would you agree or no? Look, she's pissed.
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I'm not pissed.
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And he's hot.
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I mean, like, I was just gonna.
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Say I would miss the body. I wouldn't grab that little weight.
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He is so hot. Like, his body and his face. Like, no one's hotter. Like, I'll never take that away from him. I actually don't miss our relationship or.
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Like, so maybe I am just thinking about the body.
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It's. I'm. Yeah, his body.
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And maybe I answered for myself because I sometimes miss Mark. I miss Mark. I liked him. Like, the sweetness.
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Like it was too easy for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't challenging in any way. Like, I need. I need a little bit more. And again, that's. I think it's just his age, but his body.
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Yeah, his body. Love body. I loved seeing how much he, like, loved, like the way he looked at you made me happy. Like as your best friend. Friend. I was like, oh, he, like, really? Whatever.
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Moving on okay, would you rather be trapped on a desert island like now with Brody Jenner or Spencer Pratt?
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I mean Spencer Would keep me entertained.
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That's what I was thinking, because I feel like anybody else would, like, duh, Brody. Like, you could hook up or whatever.
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You guys, like, I want Spencer. Make me laugh.
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Spencer is, like, just fucking hilarious.
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Yes. Spencer would keep the good times rolling. And also, he would probably figure out a way to get us out of the deserted Island.
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Oh, yeah, 100%. He would find Wi Fi would start, like, calling out to the congressman.
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Yeah, he would figure it out. I like that. That's a good one. Rank my more serious relationships in order of how you liked them. Since my divorce, I mean, there's not, like, there's been a ton, but, like, Jason, Jeff, Mark.
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So you're leaving the famous ones out? Ooh.
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Oh, well, I mean, like.
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Oh, like, seriously, like. Like, where they were.
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Like, they were, like, something. Nate. Could you say Nate?
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Mm.
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Okay. Is there one more we want to throw in just for shits and gigs? Who are you thinking? You're thinking Morgan.
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What?
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Who are you thinking?
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Yeah, no, no. I'm actually just trying to think of them all because there's, like, a lot of guys, but I'm trying to consider what I would consider to be serious.
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Or, like, Nate wasn't, like, serious, but, you know, like, I think it was.
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In the sense that, like, there was a serious connection.
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Yeah.
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Because even, like, you guys talked for a while before you hung out a bit. So I would. But there wasn't, like, a proper breakup, and it wasn't, like, months in together. Okay, so the question is, rate them.
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In order of how you've liked them.
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No, I'm not. I'm.
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Oh, okay.
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I'm like, a people pleaser.
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I know. I know.
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Well, and here's the thing, too, like, that would be fun for me if I hated those guys, and if.
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Yeah, if you weren't on camera.
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That.
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Would be fun for me if I wasn't on camera. Totally respect that.
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Okay.
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You just wanted to drink because it's so good.
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I love my Kahlua. You love your Kahlua. Okay, this is kind of fun for us. Who's more high maintenance, me or you?
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Huh? I mean, you.
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Yeah, that was really stupid.
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No, but it's because, like, scoot takes really good care of you. Like, in that sense, I don't. I actually don't think you're high maintenance, but, like, a lot goes into taking care of you.
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Kristin. I think I'm actually the most hydrated for the otter, so, like.
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But, like, you're not high maintenance in the sense that, like, it's Easy to travel together. Like, you go with the flow. You're not, like, mad if it's a bad table or. You know what I mean? Like, you are easygoing, but there is a lot that is required in the maintenance of you.
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Yeah, yeah. No, and I have a lot of, like, expectations in life and all that you're way more good with the flow.
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Yeah, I don't think I'm high maintenance at all, actually.
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You're not at all.
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No.
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That's. Like, we've talked about this before, but I think that's the thing that people would be the most shocked about is, like, you are chill, bro.
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Very.
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I can take, like, it's so nice to have a friend that you can take anywhere. And they'll just adapt, you know? Like, you'll chat with whoever. You're like, whatever. This is fine.
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Yeah.
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If I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like, yeah. I'm, like, so nervous that people aren't gonna have a good time. So, like, whatever. And you're so easy like that. Yeah.
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You can throw me in any situation.
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Yeah.
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Okay. That was a good one. Okay. What's your favorite and least favorite thing about me?
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My favorite and least favorite. Yeah, my favorite thing about you. There's so many.
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There's so many.
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There's so many that I'm trying to think of what my actual, like, real favorite thing about you. My favorite thing about you is, like, how much effort you put into the relationships in your life. Like, I've never had a friend like that. Like, where it's like, you really put the time in and you make it, like, a priority. And it's like, I've also learned, like, the longer that we've been friends, I've learned that the reason your friend group is so small is because you really treat them all so special, you know? So that's my favorite thing. My least favorite thing about you is that you're not as lazy as me and, like, wanna watch TV as much as me. I want you to just, like, lay on the couch with me at least once a week and just, like, binge watch a show or watch a movie. Like, that's the only thing that annoys me about you is I'm like, I wanna drug you sometimes. I thought about it.
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Force me down.
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Yeah. Like, bring you over. And I'm like, this is some electrolytes. Or this. Here, have some of this chicken, bro. Dropped and I put a Xanax.
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You're like, yeah, you always send me shows and movies, too. And I'm like, okay, I'll get to it.
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Yeah, I could show. Send you them every day. I know better now because also her response is like. She's like, a little like, when you respond, like, okay, this isn't a business. A brand deal. Like a business deal or something. Like, it's very matter.
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Check it out.
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Yeah. She's like, actually, my schedule is really full right now, Justin. I don't have time for that. So I'm like, oh, my apologies. My goodness. Cancel your Netflix, sweetie. You don't.
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I literally should cancel my Netflix and all my fucking things. Okay.
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Hmm.
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What do you think I need to change when it comes to dating? What am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong? Maybe not what I need to change, but, like, is there something that you're like, well, you do that to yourself. Like, this is what you're doing.
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Oh, my God. I swear to God. You're trying to get me to say something that you're gonna punch me. She's gonna hit me. No, I really don't. We've talked about this too. I think that you're actually really good at dating. Like, I always get nervous when I see people who, like, will date and they. They're not themselves or they put on a show. You are the queen of being authentic. Right. So you show up exactly how you are. So. No, I think the guys need to change.
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Yeah. That's not.
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And I've said this thing, you know. Yeah. We got in a little bit of a fight about it because I think, like, you're so perfect. I think the whole world would fall in love with you. I think people need to step up. Like, some of the people that you've, like, been on dates with and stuff.
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Yeah.
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B
So. But the one thing that we talked about just recently, like, and I was saying sometimes you'll do this thing, and it's so cute, and I relate to it so much. You and I love, love so much. And we love, like, having a crush, and we love the excitement of, like, meeting someone that you're excited about. And I think that at this point in our life, like, you get to a point where. And especially somebody like you, like, you have to pull that back a bit because they take that as, this woman wants to marry me tomorrow, you know? But it's you being genuine because you're genuinely excited. Like, even when we go on vac, like, if we meet someone randomly at a bar or something and they are interesting to you, like, you're excited.
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A
Yeah.
- [22:48]
B
Like, you still have that, like, kid, like, quality, which I do Too. Like, you and I are very similar like that. But when you're dating, I think it. They get attached way too quick.
- [22:59]
A
Now, I'm trying really hard to make a conscious effort to, like, pull back a little, even when I'm excited, because, yeah, I think I get so excited because it doesn't happen that often. So then when it does, I'm like. I'm like, I can't wait. But then all of a sudden, I wake up and I'm like, I'm over them.
- [23:14]
B
You guys send me. Or, like, I'll. She'll send me screenshots of, like, text messages. Or, like, she'll show me her phone. Like, look what we're saying. Like, I'll go a little bit further and, like, read what she said. I want to see what this is saying.
- [23:25]
A
Look what he said. And you're like, yeah, right, I want.
- [23:27]
B
To see what she said. But they always started with, you know, it's like, it's always so passionate. Like, I'm crazy about you or whatever. And, like, but you kind of play along. I know I do, but what are you supposed to do? Like, thanks. Like, you're just like. Like, true. Like, you're so amazing. I've met. Never met a girl like you, and you're like, thanks.
- [23:48]
A
I know.
- [23:49]
B
Everyone says that.
- [23:50]
A
I know. It's like, it's hard. It's hard. But I'm trying not to be like, oh, my God. I know. I think you're. Blah, blah, blah.
- [23:56]
B
Like, what? I don't know. You know what's funny, though? Because we've talked about this, like, recently a lot, but, you know, it would suck. You know, it's like you have a friend, and your friend asks you for advice, and you give that friend advice, and they never listen again. The reason that I love you, like, we listen to each other's advice and we take it seriously. Like, that's why I'm never, like, worried about you. Like, you know, those girls are like, what should I say? Should I call him again? You're like, don't call that guy. He fucking cheated on me three times. And then they're calling him again. Like, with you, I actually. It's like the opposite. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm never worried about that stuff with you. So even when we talked about that, I'm like, maybe with the texting at the beginning, you could pull back a little bit, let them do the schmoozing also. You feel it out, you know, because it's different for them. Like, you break their heart.
- [24:40]
A
I know. That's. I know, and I know that. And that's why I'm trying really hard now to, like, just pull back a little, because I know. I know my pattern, and it's really excited. And then a 180, and I'm over you.
- [24:52]
B
But what's funny, too, is people could be like, oh, so does Kristen. Love bomb people. No, it's actually. It's actually you. Like, you're genuinely excited.
- [24:59]
A
Yeah.
- [24:59]
B
Like, you're just excited. It's fun and, like.
- [25:02]
A
And I enjoy talking to men. Like, I just do. I like men, you know? And so, yeah, they take it.
- [25:08]
B
But.
- [25:08]
A
But by the way, there's been a lot of people where I'm like, hey, heads up. Like, you know, this will never work. Like, we're just friends. Like, I have a couple guy friends. I mean, you know, one of them. But I'm always like, I'm not dating you. Like, if you want to hang out and get coffee, like, it's not a date. I'm, like, very upfront about stuff. But guys, like, still. They, like, still think they're gonna change my mind or something.
- [25:29]
B
I don't think that you could have straight guy friends unless they're married.
- [25:32]
A
I don't, because. Well, I do. But I know that they like me.
- [25:36]
B
Yeah. Like, they would. They were. They're down to.
- [25:38]
A
They would in a second.
- [25:39]
B
Yeah. So hard. Like, people always talk about that. Like, can straight men and women be just friends?
- [25:45]
A
I don't think so.
- [25:46]
B
I think it has to be, like, if the levels are off, like, yeah, like, if the guy's, like, super hot and then the girl's not, or vice versa, but then the one always ends up having a crush or something always likes the other.
- [25:58]
A
I know. I know.
- [26:00]
B
It's so hard, though. Like, that's just human nature, though, because attraction, you can't fight it if you're like, that's why gay guy and girl is so good. I'm obsessed with you. I don't want to touch your pussy at all.
- [26:14]
A
I don't want to touch your pussy.
- [26:16]
B
But I'm obsessed with you. Like a straight guy. But I don't think that, like, I own you or I'm not. Like, who you talking to?
- [26:24]
A
Why didn't you call me last night when you got back to your room?
- [26:27]
B
But that's why girls and girls and gays and girls, blah, blah, blah, whatever, right? It's hard. Like, the attraction, you can't fight that.
- [26:34]
A
No, you cannot.
- [26:35]
B
Is there somebody famous or kind of known that you have a crush on right now that you. You can't say out loud.
- [26:44]
A
Are we trying to manifest?
- [26:45]
B
Yeah. Like, is there anyone that you, like. I know before you, like, made the joke about Kevin Costner in the notes, like, everyone talk about Christie.
- [26:51]
A
Yeah. That was everywhere.
- [26:52]
B
Yeah.
- [26:53]
A
No, I mean, I really. No. And I said it probably after Stagecoach, but, like, Brandon Splinter, for me is, like, he's so hot, and, like, he's that the type of guy that I want, but I think he's in a relationship, and he's an actor, and I would never date an actor. And I mean, I. You know, if I had my chance, I would have been at Stagecoach.
- [27:13]
B
So. Why wouldn't you date an actor? I feel like a lot of people who don't spend a lot of time around Hollywood don't understand why people say stuff like that.
- [27:20]
A
Okay, fair. Good question. For a couple of reasons. One is the schedule. Like, their schedules are awful. He's on set. Well, I'll get to the other thing. But, yeah, logistics wise, he. The scheduling would be a nightmare, and they can't. He wouldn't be able to travel to me all the time. Also, typically, actors are very insecure, and I think that's why they become actors, because they're seeking outside validation. And I think a lot of them can be, like, just really cheesy and just a bunch of nerds. Tell you how I really feel.
- [27:54]
B
Acting is so funny. Like, do you ever think about this? Like, I. I think about it a lot. And I'm no shade to, like, drama kids. In high school, because I loved. I wanted to be one, but they wouldn't let me. I've never told you this story, but the drama teacher wouldn't let me be a part of drama because. So good. I. I would have been fabulous. It would have changed my whole life, you know, Like, I could have been on Broadway. I love Broadway so much. I hung out with all the jocks, and we had a drama department, and the guy who ran the drama department hated all of my friends or hated all the jocks. So when I tried to sign up for drama, he literally wouldn't let me.
- [28:25]
A
Did he think you were, like, doing it as a joke?
- [28:28]
B
I think maybe he thought I wouldn't take it seriously, and it was like, he just didn't want that kind of energy in the drama.
- [28:35]
A
That's so, like.
- [28:36]
B
It was so weird. It was so. I was so upset about it. But anyways, I was gonna say, it's so funny. Like, actors, like, we, like, praise actors, and they're like on Celebrity and people are screaming. At the end of the day, they're just the drama kids. Yeah. At school.
- [28:47]
A
And they're pretending to be someone they're not.
- [28:49]
B
Make believe. And it's so cool, you guys. I'm the biggest moviegoer and I love Broadway theater. I'm like, a huge fan. But, like, it's kind of geeky. It's an adult, like, pretending to be someone else. You're playing pretend, which is a cool career.
- [29:04]
A
Also, like, we idolize these people, and they're not for a character, for words that were written for them.
- [29:09]
B
Well, it's like the funniest thing ever, because whenever I talk to people about Hollywood, like, the thing that people don't realize it's the biggest dorky town in the whole world. You go, yeah, you go to like, a Oscar Dork city. They're just nerds.
- [29:22]
A
Yeah.
- [29:23]
B
And then. Oh, you know, I know. What I think is so funny is social media has kind of broken the excitement of actors. Because when you start to see too much of your favorite actors, you're like, oh, my God, they're kind of a geek. I don't really care what they're saying. They say the dorky is not that interesting. Yeah. When they're reading, when they're doing the scripts, then we can kind of whatever. But when you start here, hearing them or you're. And my thing, a lot of them that I was would be around. I'm like, dorks.
- [29:45]
A
I know, I know. No, it's true. So that's why.
- [29:50]
B
Yeah.
- [29:50]
A
I won't date an actor.
- [29:52]
B
And actor like men in particular. Something about a man.
- [29:57]
A
Weird. Right? Like, it's not sexy.
- [29:59]
B
Yeah. And I think that it's like the amount of drama and emotion that has to come with that type of a person. You know, like, they'd be crying. You'd have to hold them at night.
- [30:07]
A
Exactly.
- [30:08]
B
Like a little baby.
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A
Right.
- [30:12]
B
You know what? I. Yeah. That's a certain personality type.
- [30:15]
A
That's what I'm saying. I can't. I can't do it. They are. No, I can't do it. Do you have another horror story about doing hair that we don't know about either a time that you messed up someone's hair or when a celebrity was an absolute nightmare. And I know you've said a few, but is there one more you'd want to share?
- [30:32]
B
I have so many. And it's like the only thing that holds me back because I, I, I want to say everything is, it's like, it's Still a. When I was doing hair, I was getting paid lots of money for it. So I feel like there's a loyalty to, like, I can't talk about people who paid me a lot of money and then tell their secrets. Right. One day. I do want. I actually have been thinking about this lately a lot. One day I do want to write a book and maybe change the names or something because the stories that I have are insane.
- [31:00]
A
You should do that. No, no, I change the name.
- [31:02]
B
I really want to. And I want to like, change names because I have the craziest stories ever. Because, like, I went into everyone's home. Like, I saw like a firsthand, like, and I was going back over and over. And I was the type that, like, people kept me for a long time. Like, I. A lot of people would bounce around with their, like, hair and makeup and whatever. I had very loyal people. So I really got to know a lot of people. But the bad ones would always end up going away. I actually fired a lot of people. There were a lot of people who I said were not a match or I would tell their assistants, I can't go back because it just was not worth it. Like, their energy was so fucking weird. So anyone that I've ever talked about celebrities, if I've shown pictures of them with my work or whatever, it's because I love them. I love all the other ones. But yes, I have some crazy ass stories. There was one celebrity who was really big at this time. Known to be a little bit kooky, but a big actress. And I went to do her hair the first time.
- [31:54]
A
Say her name and I'll bleep it out.
- [31:56]
B
You promise?
- [31:57]
A
I said, of course. Oh, like, okay, I have a story about her too.
- [32:03]
B
So I went to her house for the first time ever and the assistant brought me in to do her hair. Like, oh, come back this way. Like you're gonna do her hair back here. We're gonna work whatever. Butt naked. Have I told you this story?
- [32:12]
A
I don't think so. I don't know.
- [32:14]
B
Butt naked. Like, hey, how are you? Good to meet you, or whatever. And I was like. And I was like, okay, like, just like, what do you want to do with your hair? Just butt naked, right? And then like, so we're doing the hair. She just wanted to be butt naked the whole time. Yeah, she was smoking cigarettes while we're doing the hair. I'm like, okay, this is like fucking we. Like, you know, And I at the time, like, I would have like an occasional cigarette. So I wasn't judging, but it was just the whole experience was weird. Went to wash the hair in the bathtub, bent over, just hot box up in the air. Sucker, hairy hot box just up in the air. And I was just sitting there like, what is my life right now? You know, like.
- [32:48]
A
So I was on a plane with her one time, Jack and I, my publicist and she was like in the same row but you know, on the other side.
- [32:55]
B
Side.
- [32:56]
A
She had a bag of pills. A bag of pills. And then she'd be going through them, popping pills the entire flight is. I think we were going from New York to la. She went in the bathroom, I'm not kidding for two hours. Came out full glam, full glam heels, the whole thing. But she was like stumbling, like falling over, just popping pills. The whole fight, we were both like, God, I believe.
- [33:14]
B
And that makes so much sense. Like she was out of her mind.
- [33:18]
A
Yeah, she's popping pills. That's a good one.
- [33:20]
B
I have crazy ass stories.
- [33:22]
A
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B
What's one rumor you've heard about yourself that you secretly found, like, flattering or that you kind of didn't mind that it was out there? Wow.
- [38:00]
A
That is such a good question. That's. That's such a good question. It's funny because I don't think there's ever been a time where I've been like, oh, yeah, because usually I feel like it's. I always get, like, the shitty end of stuff in the media. I don't think there's ever been a time where I've been like, it's not true.
- [38:16]
B
But can I tell you one thing that was so funny recently when you and I discovered. So there was this one video that was, like, so ridiculous that was breaking down Kristen's face. Have we talked about this on the pod?
- [38:29]
A
I don't think think so. I think I maybe mentioned it.
- [38:33]
B
Oh, you did.
- [38:33]
A
But, like, in, like.
- [38:35]
B
But the way that this one was explaining all this work that you've done that I know for a fact you have not done at all. And I was like, my God. Like, they really just think you're the perfect person. You had to pay for all of it.
- [38:45]
A
Okay, right.
- [38:46]
B
So that's not really, like, a rumor.
- [38:47]
A
But I was really mad about it at first. And then I think, yeah, you were the one who was like, it's actually a compliment. And I was like, okay, I'll take. You're. You're right. I'll take it as a compliment. Yeah. She thinks I've had a ton of work done when I haven't.
- [38:58]
B
That woman, by the way, bugs the fuck out of me. Somebody just trash. She did, like, another person that I used to work on. So somebody had sent me that video. So I looked at it again and again. She was off on everything she was saying. She was wrong. This woman who, like, does injectables in California, and she just, like, breaks down people's faces. She's just. She's a rotten person.
- [39:18]
A
Well, this is about me. I'm like, she has zero credibility in my eyes. Like, she has no.
- [39:23]
B
Remember when she said you got your hairline pulled down or up?
- [39:27]
A
Yeah. I'm sorry about my forehead.
- [39:29]
B
What?
- [39:30]
A
Like, girl, come on.
- [39:32]
B
That you had, like, a blast.
- [39:33]
A
Like, all kinds of shit.
- [39:35]
B
Yeah. Jawline, filler.
- [39:36]
A
Oh, yeah. I can't even. It's, like, so outrageous that I just. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
- [39:42]
B
What's so weird about that is you're the person who would tell. Like, you talked about your boobs getting them in and out. You talked about getting Botox, and you hated it. And you and I send the pictures to each other. When you did get that discord I.
- [39:54]
A
Posted on my Instagram, I look crazy.
- [39:56]
B
Like a crazy person. So anyways, that was just, like, one of those things where I'm like, well, you should feel good because that woman thinks that you spent a million dollars on plastic surgery.
- [40:04]
A
Also, because the thing is, too. I think I. I did talk about this at one point because I said, if you're gonna do a comparison, it has to be no makeup to no makeup. And it. I'm sorry, but if anyone takes a photo from when they're 18 to 38, you're gonna look a little different.
- [40:20]
B
It's so weird to me that people on the Internet don't get it, because even people in the comments on all of these different videos or whatever, that people are finding each other. I'm like, do you guys not see the lighting's different? The girl has a full face of makeup.
- [40:30]
A
You go from me doing my own makeup at age 18 to me having mine professionally done on a red carpet that, like, the makeup was actually kind of crazy in itself. But, like, I do look like I had a bluff because I used to wear so much fudgeing eyeliner, first of all, and, like, close off my eyes. I've even learned over the years how to open up my eyes more with makeup. Also. Gua sha. I'm sorry. It makes a fucking different. A difference. Microcurrent. All of these things does make a difference in your face. Also, I was a booze hound when I was 18 and partying all the time. I was puffy.
- [40:59]
B
Yeah. You couldn't find her, depuff.
- [41:01]
A
Yeah, man. My eyes were smaller because I was so puffy. Now I take much better care of myself. Like, there's just, like, so much that goes into it and, like, the angles and this, and it's just like. It's so ridiculous.
- [41:13]
B
Yeah.
- [41:14]
A
Anyways. Okay. What's yours?
- [41:15]
B
I'm heated.
- [41:16]
A
I know. That does fire me up.
- [41:19]
B
Me too, because it's so.
- [41:20]
A
Yeah. And I get pissed for other people when they do it too. It's just because it's so ridiculous. And these people are just assuming, and they think because they're in the injectable world or it's a plastic surgeon or whatever that they know, and it's like, it's actually really reckless that you guys are out there saying this stuff when you don't know. You don't know.
- [41:39]
B
Yeah, I think it actually. And this is kind of a gross thing to do, but I actually think it'd be more, like, responsible if you took people's pictures then and said what you would do to them.
- [41:47]
A
Them. Right.
- [41:47]
B
You know, at that point. Because it's like you're calling out things that these people didn't do. I don't know. I. There's. For some reason, whenever I see that woman's videos, I get so fucking irked.
- [41:56]
A
Because she, to me, is, like, so miserable and so unhappy that to me, she's doing it to try to, like, tear everyone else down to make herself feel better. And I'm like, you're so wrong, and you're so wrong about everything.
- [42:08]
B
Well, also, she should do one on herself, because if you see a picture of her before and after, it's, like, mind blowing. Just because you had to put a whole new head on your neck, like, does it mean that everybody else did it?
- [42:18]
A
There you go. So she's projecting.
- [42:19]
B
Yeah, so she's projecting because she can't believe that people, like. Yeah. Can take care of themselves and look good and, like, better makeup, whatever.
- [42:24]
A
Also, I'm sorry, but getting rid of toxic everything in your life, including toxic relationships, chemicals you're putting in your body, all of those things make a difference. Working on yourself, like, finding your light and getting rid of negativity and toxicity in your life makes a difference in how you look.
- [42:41]
B
You know what? I'm always shocked about you. How white your eyes are. I wonder what surgery she would say you did for them.
- [42:46]
A
I wonder.
- [42:47]
B
But it's like.
- [42:47]
A
But really, right? It's because I take care of myself.
- [42:50]
B
So clean.
- [42:50]
A
Yeah.
- [42:51]
B
The whites of your eyes, are they really white? And, like, I think that's, like, the. You're looking into somebody's health. Like, the tongue and the top.
- [42:58]
A
Yep. Yeah.
- [42:59]
B
Eyes white. When we did that detox, she was saying, like, notice your eyes. Oh, yeah, yeah, I noticed it definitely when you clean it up. Was that the last question?
- [43:08]
A
I've got one more.
- [43:09]
B
Oh, okay.
- [43:11]
A
Okay. What is your least favorite and favorite thing about Scoot?
- [43:16]
B
Oh, my God, I am such a cheeseball when it comes to scoot. Like, I'm just so, so in love with him. Like, I feel so lucky to have him. Like, beyond. He's, like, beyond anything I ever could have imagined for being in love. So I love how in our relationship, I love how scoot. I'm a hothead. Like, you are. Like, I like to, like, not talk, but I get excited and I get, like, passionate, and I get pissed about things, and I want to, like. And he's such a good listener. He'll kind of let me go through it. But he does this really good thing that nobody else has really done in my life before where he knows how to de. Escalate me in a way that doesn't feel like judgment. You know, how, like, your parent, your mom could say to you, like, kristen, you're being dramatic, and it just makes you even more mad. Or, like, take a breath, Kristen. Or, like, take a.
- [44:03]
A
Calm down, calm down.
- [44:04]
B
Oh, my God. And then you want to rip their face off. Right? But Scoot will kind of let me. And then he says something, but he puts into perspective, like, in such a smart way. And so I'm like, I'm really grateful for that, you know? And then I. I just love so many things about him. He. He's honest to God, the kindest person I've ever met in the world. I mean, you know how he is. He's just the sweetest person. My least favorite thing is getting ready together. You know that, like, when we travel together, because I can get ready in five minutes, I always know what I'm gonna wear. And, like, when I pack, I pack outfits, right? Where Scoot will bring three huge suitcases, and he's, like, trying different outfits on when we're going to dinner on vacation. I'm like, what the fuck is going on, dude? Like, you know, like, so he takes forever when he gets dressed. Maybe I should say something deeper, but I don't really think there is.
- [44:54]
A
No. I mean, I think that's. I think that makes sense. That's the only time I ever see you, like, annoyed with him.
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B
Yeah, it's the. The time, like, waiting on him.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But it's also. That's been good for me, too, because it, like, it taught me. I've always said that my worst thing is how impatient I am. I'm a very impatient person. It's taught me patience. I have to, like, sit in the other room and just breathe. Or I have to, like, work on another project. Like, when I get ready and we're going to dinner, I go sit in the other room, and I, like, have to put on music. And I'm like, okay, this is. I'm gonna be here for a while.
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A
Right. Right.
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B
You know, and there's. There's no racing it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, or there's things. If we're in, like, a hotel with, like, a bar, I'm like, hey, babe, I'm gonna go down and have a drink at the bar. Take your time. I'll see you when you come down. We've been doing that a lot, which is good.
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A
Yeah. You figured out how to navigate it.
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B
The funny thing is, is he's so codependent. He's like, no, wait for me. And I'm like, baby, you got to let me go. I can't just sit in this hotel room staring at the wall while you change outfits. Ten.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
You know?
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A
Oh, my God. Yeah. No, wait for me. No, I'm leaving.
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B
Okay. Kind of to wrap this up, since it's your podcast. Let's. I want to do like a quick, like, rapid fire at you, and let's not even think about it. Just say, yeah, no. And if you don't want to answer, say no. But just, like, say what comes to your mind first. Right.
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A
Okay.
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B
Most overrated trend right now.
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A
Oh, God, I, like, don't even know trends right now. What are some.
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B
What's something, like, irks you that you see where you're like, can we not do that right now? Like, for a while you hated baggy jeans. And now I know. Now you wear it and they look that pair you got.
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A
I know. I live in them now. I'm always like the last one to join anything.
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B
Do you like high waisted jeans?
- [46:21]
A
Yeah, I love them.
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B
Oh, really?
- [46:22]
A
I still love them.
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B
I hated it when it first came out and then I, like, loved it. Like, takes a while. For a minute.
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A
Yeah, it takes a minute. I know, because, like, low rise was everything for a while. I don't even know what trends. I don't pay attention to trends anymore.
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B
Okay, that's. That's all right. All right. Person you text the most. That isn't family. I don't. Well, you. I didn't do that for me. This is like a very. Like, I did do it for me.
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A
Who is it?
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B
I wanted to know.
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A
What if I didn't say you.
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B
Okay. What's your toxic trait?
- [46:55]
A
Getting men to fall in love with me and then dropping them like. Like flies.
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B
All right, if the hills camera came back tomorrow, would you say yes?
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A
You know what? No. They've been trying to get us to do, like, you know, Jersey Shore does.
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B
Like a vacation thing.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Oh, that would be fabulous.
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A
We've talked about this.
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B
You would. Do you have to do this?
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A
I didn't at first. I was like, I would do it. This is probably like a year and a half ago. And I was like, yeah, I would do it. And then I don't know. I Did. Honestly, Cavalieri, the Laguna beach thing. And I was just like, I don't know. I don't know.
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B
Know.
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A
I don't know. Never say never. I. I don't know.
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B
Yeah, it's also takes a lot out of you.
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A
It takes a lot. Like, I just don't know that I have TV in me anymore.
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B
You know what I was thinking about recently, too, is it's like tv, just in general. Reality TV is not what it used to be. And I think so many people think, like, everyone would do reality TV if they could. Or, like, people think, like, if someone does a reality show and then it stops, they're like, oh, they can't wait for the next show. A lot of people don't realize it's not an enjoyable thing.
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A
Even the Laguna reunion, it's exhausting because you're just. You're talking about things you wouldn't normally talk about, and you have to have. I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble. They even told us what to talk about at the reunion. You know, it's like. It's exhaust. It's just. It's. I don't have it in me anymore.
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B
Fair. Worst date location ever.
- [48:10]
A
Well, I went on a lunch date. Well, I've gone on. I just. I hate lunch dates. I've gone on, I think, two.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Like, what are we doing? Like, either let's go to dinner or let's not go out.
- [48:22]
B
Oh, my gosh. That would be the worst date.
- [48:24]
A
I've gone on. 2. I don't. I hate them.
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B
You used to have on, like, your jean shorts.
- [48:28]
A
Yeah. Like, what the fuck do I wear to lunch? Also, like, who has time to go to lunch?
- [48:38]
B
Oh, my God, I'm dying. Okay. Biggest ick in a man.
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A
Biggest ick in a man. I really don't like when a guy talks about his money. You know, like, we went on, like, a group date or whatever with a guy a couple years ago, and like. Like, right away he's talking about how much money he had, and I was just like, this is. It's so gross.
- [48:57]
B
To me, it's the grossest.
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A
It's so gross.
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B
It's so obvious, too, because you've. If you've ever really been around people who are successful and do really well, they never want. They don't want to talk about it.
- [49:08]
A
Exactly.
- [49:08]
B
You know what I mean? Yeah. You should be asking people, hey, how do you do so well? It looks like you do well, like, right? I don't know.
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A
That's so gross because that's an Insecurity.
- [49:17]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's the last thing you lied about? Ooh. Even if it was like a little lie that you had to tell your kids.
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A
No, it. It would. I'm sure it was something with scheduling, like, oh, I can't. Oh, it was getting drinks with someone.
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B
Okay.
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A
In la and I was like, I can't.
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B
Okay. Biggest underrated skin care tip. I think you just said it earlier.
- [49:40]
A
Guasha. Yeah, Gua sha. I'd say for sure. I think everyone should be doing that.
- [49:46]
B
What is something that you think, like, people do online that they think is a flex that you're literally like, oh.
- [49:52]
A
I think humble brags are really annoying. So like showing off even a house, like your house or like a new car or like any of anyone who posts on a private plane too.
- [50:07]
B
That's like, that's exactly where my mind.
- [50:09]
A
You can go on a private plane without posting it. News flash.
- [50:13]
B
Yeah.
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A
Like any kind of those, like humble brags I think are so tacky.
- [50:16]
B
Yeah, for sure. It's so bizarre to me, the house stuff in general, because I share everything online and I've always talked about this, like, because people say to me, like, we have a lot of house for just scoot and I, you know, and I show two rooms of our house. Like, I always post in the same spot just because it's like, I don't want to show. And people say to me, like, give us a house tour. Like, show us around the house. I think that's so embarrassing as a like 45 year old man to be like, and here's this guest room and let me take you upstairs and show you the bedrooms or whatever. But I know that that's a very normal thing on social media nowadays. But like, I just always think about like, my mom would be like, what is wrong? I know because I came from a family that was very much about don't talk about money.
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A
Right?
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B
You don't show off, you don't talk about money. You know, whatever. So it's like social. Social media has made it so normal for people to just do like humble brags all the time. Like, it's become so normal. But to me it like makes my stomach hurt when I see it.
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A
And like people with a new car. I'm like, like, I don't. I understand. Like, it's exciting and you're proud or whatever. But I don't know, I just would never do something like that. When my pool is done, I'll show my pool.
- [51:25]
B
You're. I'll just do a reality show and show off my stuff. Yeah, exactly.
- [51:28]
A
I just would have cameras at my house instead of posting it.
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B
All right, well, that was that.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, always a pleasure. J A. Oh, oh, wait, I had.
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B
One more for you. One more question. Sip or spill? Kahlua, we love you. Would you ever hook up with someone who went to jail? Or have you ever hooked up with someone who went to jail?
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A
Do you have someone in mind that you're like. I mean, yeah, I think it's about, like, not a criminal, but.
- [51:56]
B
No. Like, have you ever hooked up with anyone who's been to jail? Oh, I just got that. We'll see you next time.
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A
Goodbye.
- [52:10]
B
All the power.
- [52:14]
A
Yeah, I got all the power. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.