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Let's Not Talk About The Husband
Ask Lisa & Harry: Pet Safety, Finding Your Passion, and How Different Is Too Different?
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The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.
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And I'm Harry Hamlin.
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And this is let's Not Talk about the Husband.
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We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.
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Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell. And on this podcast, we're going to own it, baby.
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Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hey, everybody, thanks for checking in. One more time to let's Not Talk about the Husband. Here we are.
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That was fun. The last time we were answering, we only answered one question because we got off on our acting spiel. So we should probably do some more.
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Do we have more questions?
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Yeah, we will.
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Eve, do we have more?
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Oh, we do.
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What are we talking about?
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But do you have anything to say before that that you'd like to get off your chest or talk about or anything that's burning in your, you know.
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Well, to talk about before we answer questions. I'm going to be traveling coming up next week up to our cabin, and I, you know, as you know, I went out and got this new dog, this little puppy, cheated a Rivera, Right. And so now she's now six and a half months old. She's the cutest thing ever. Oh, my God. I did a podcast with her for those of you who saw it. Anyway, so while I was gone, she'd have filled in. She'd have filled in for you. And so she, at six months, I had her spayed. So she spent the last two weeks with that plastic thing running around. Tiny little girl like this with a great big plastic thing running around. She figured it out, but. So now she's spayed. Took her to the groomer for the first time yesterday.
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So cute.
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She got groomed for the very first time. And they gave her a haircut, not unlike the haircut that I just got last week, but. And so she's now shorn and she's only that big, not even. She's. She's about 14 inches long and about 8 and a half inches tall.
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Tiny.
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Yeah, she's a little tiny thing. And I'm taking her up to our cabin in Canada and we have a family of bald eagles that live within 100 yards of our house.
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Well, I don't know if it's 100 yards. I think it's a little bit further. But they live in this tree. And what do they do around 9:30 in the morning and 4, they cruise.
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Around looking for lunch and breakfast or dinner.
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Eagles, Bald eagles.
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This little dog is just the perfect size for breakfast for a bald eagle. I mean, these eagles have wingspans of five feet for a mark. They're white heads, they're bald eagles. And we never had them before. I've been going to this place for 60 years. We've never had bald eagles. And suddenly a family of bald eagles has moved into the neighborhood. And I don't know quite how to keep this dog.
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Al the Blairs have their little dogs.
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So we are next door neighbors. Our friends who live close to us on this lake, they have these tiny little dogs. And I remember one time when Chris was fighting off the eagles with the paddle from a canoe. Paddle? Yeah, because the eagles were coming down to try and get his dogs while he was standing right there. So you, I heard you say today when you were talking to Amelia on the phone before we came to down here to do this, I heard you say that she has a. Our dog has a 50% chance of living.
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I said 50, 50. Now listen, everybody got mad at me. Mom, you're so negative. You need work. You need to work on that. They really came down on me and I was like, I know guys, but listen, we have to. At least now you taking a dog by yourself, there's a 50, 50 chance that that dog's gonna kill me.
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Why do you say that? Because I'm not responsible if I can't keep my dog alive.
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Well, you're on an island and you don't.
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The dog can't get lost cause it's on an island.
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Well, the dog could fall in the water.
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And dogs are pretty good.
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Dogs know how to get themselves a lot. How does it get okay, what if, what if all of a sudden you're not paying attention, the dog falls in the lake? You don't know the dog's fallen in the lake. How does it get back up? Are you gonna teach it how to get back up on the dock?
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All of those things? You're so negative.
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I mean, see, I get. They come down on me just for our. Like, you need to work on yourself.
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You need work. Is that so negative? Look, there's gonna be bald eagles, there's a lake, there's water, there's a dog.
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I said there's a 50, 50 chance. I think that's an absolutely honest percentage.
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To give that dog 50, 50. But would it be 50, 50 if it stayed here? Because there are coyotes here, there's hawks.
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Here, that dog has a 50, 50 chance. Because we live in a place that has coyotes and hawks and we don't.
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Have any bald eagles, but we have got hawks.
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Yeah, but. And we're also not on an island, so it's a little bit. You got a couple more things to deal with on the island than you do here. But that dog already, because we're. We're a big dog family. We've always had big dogs. So we never have to worry about the coyotes. The coyotes come right up to our door. I mean, it's very hard to keep them out. One day I saw one literally run and go under the chain link fence. Dove down under it.
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Oh, that's right.
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I don't know how.
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Well, now we fixed that. The chain link fence now goes down.
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Two feet, but it literally dove under it. So these things are wily and wiley coyotes.
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Wiley coyote.
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They are wily. And they show up, like, sometimes they're like, standing in the driveway and I'm like, you know, we have this group chat with our neighbors. It's pretty cute because we talk to each other.
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Houses. Yeah, it's a cul de sac. We're at the end. And yeah, all of our neighbors will chime in if there's, like, something fun.
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Coyotes are on the street. Watch your little dogs. Or, you know, there's a weird car down there. Whose car is it? Like, we watch out for each other. I say it's really great. But. But the other day, two days in a row, Mark said, coyotes on the street.
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Next door neighbor, Mark.
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Coyotes on the street. Watch your dogs. So we have ordered a life jacket for cheetah that has a. Oh, you ordered it? Yeah, we ordered it.
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Oh, really?
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And it has a handle on it. So, like, let's say she fell in. You'd be able to, like, just pull her up from the handle after she's in there. So personally.
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So I'm gonna put a life jack on this dog.
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That's what the Blairs have on their.
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Dogs, a life jacket. Okay.
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Yeah. So then, in case you didn't pay attention for one minute. Cause God forbid, probably would never happen with you. But like, you to take your eye off something. I can't imagine that happening. As long as she has that on, she has a maybe a 75, 50 to 57,550 chance.
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Oh, really? So her chances are going up.
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They go up if she keeps.
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If these mitigating factors like the now. And we also researched some kind of a thing that they can wear that keeps the eagles from getting them.
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Hawk vest. A hawk vest that has, like, spikes or something, like coyote vest.
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The spikes are for coyotes but the hawk vest is actually a thing that you put the coyote vest on, which the coyote vest has things that apply to it, you add to it. So you can add spikes and all that, but the vest itself is just a thing that the dog wears. And then you add these other things to it. So for the hawk or for the eagle, you add a thing to the top of the coyote vest that. That detaches. So the eagle comes down, it grabs the.
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And the dog drops.
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And, well, when the eagle takes off with what it thinks is the dog, what it's really got is just the top. And so the dog falls out and gives the dog another chance to escape. And I go, but wait a minute.
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That means it'll go back down and get it.
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The eagle's gonna drop that thing, going to drop that vest, and it's going to go in and it's going to get the dog immediately. I don't think that's going to work.
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Well, anyway, I will say prayers. I'll have Netta do some blessings and light some candles for Cheetah.
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Yeah. You really think Cheetah's going to be lunch for the bald eagle, huh?
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I hope not.
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Me, too.
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I really do. I don't think we want that. So I do think that if you're going to be responsible, you have to make sure where she is. And if you're gonna leave her at home, leave her in that little black carrier that you're going to take on the plane. She's very comfortable in that. So, like, let's say you're gonna go out for a couple hours. She could stay in that, like a kennel. And then you come back or you take her in it. But you.
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Why don't I just leave her, like, in the bedroom or something?
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Well, remember what happened with Annie? She, like, ate the door to try to get out. Remember when we took Annie up there?
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Well, Annie was a big dog. She could eat.
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And she would, like, swim after us and try to get just in the boat.
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I don't think Cheetah could eat. Eat her way out of that room. Cheetah's, like, 16 inches long.
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Yeah, but she'll shit and pee everywhere.
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Well, whatever. I'm gonna be fine.
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I'm gonna let. I am just. You know what? Let go, let God. That's my new thing. Let go, let God. But I'm saying a 50. 50 chance that's also that I'm not devastated.
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If I'm not, I haven't entirely decided to take her. I know you haven't you know, Lorena.
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Said she would help out if in case, like I had to, you know, I am working. That's why I'm not going. She would help.
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Well, whatever. I mean, I've got all this stuff. It's like when you fly with a little dog. I've never taken a dog on a plane before. And this is a tiny little dog. This is a really easy dog to take a plane.
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He'll go underneath the seat, she'll go underneath the seat. You know, it's kind of exciting.
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Well, you have to have. You have to get. The carrier can't be any higher than eight inches.
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Yeah. Because it has to be able to squish down.
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It has to squish under the seat. Yeah.
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So can you hold her in your lap though? Because people do that.
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I was at the pet store the other day and I was buying this carrying case to go on the plane. And the woman in front of me said, oh, you're taking your dog on a plane? I said, first time. She said, I work for the airlines and she was a flight attendant. And she said, you know, we love pets too. We all have pets. We know when people are traveling with pets, we get, you know, maybe the airline says that you're supposed to keep them under the seat the whole time.
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But you don't have to.
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We kind of let you. You can hold your dog most of the time.
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That's what I think.
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So we'll see what happens. But I.
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There was one. I was on a flight recently. This was a sight I had never seen. Just flashed on it. A woman sitting behind me. She had a hairless cat. You know those hairless cats?
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Oh, yeah. Really ugly creature. Sorry my face. To be judgmental.
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Wow, you were just super judgmental.
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I mean, those cats are. Yeah.
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Okay, so there's a hairless cat. She has the cat in her sweater or shirt like this here, and she's sound asleep. The cat on her body, I'd never seen that before. Well, that's for like a long time.
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Fairly unusual. Now Delilah's ex boyfriend had this gigantic dog. I mean a. A dog. We have a hundred pound rottweiler. That dog has to be, oh, huge.
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This big. Like a wolfhound.
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Like a wolf the size of a wolfhound.
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Wolfhound.
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He takes that dog on the plane.
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I know. And it sits right at his feet.
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How does he do that? I'm terrified to take a dog that's 16 inches long.
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He's very well trained.
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He's not a dog that's four feet Long.
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It's very well trained, though. That dog. He trained that dog. He trained those dogs very well. Yeah.
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Yeah. If you take a dog that big through an airport, I mean, you're gonna get a lot of people staring at you.
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Basically, it's a wolfhound.
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A wolfhound.
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I know.
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Flying. And, you know.
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Well, we'll see. We'll tune in and find out. The Saga of Cheetah. Does she go to Canada? Does she stay with me and Lorena?
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Does she get eaten by an eagle? Does she get porcupine quilt?
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Is she drowned? Oh, my God. The girls are like, mom, you're so negative.
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What?
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You need to work. You need to go to. I mean, you need work. You need to work on yourself. You're just so negative. I can't believe it. You know, I always send them. This is one thing you don't know. I constantly send them every day, like sayings on Instagram, like, positive. I don't know, life sayings, really sending them to them.
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Isn't Instagram like everybody?
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No, you can DM people.
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You just like, oh, so you're dming.
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So if I. Well, you just punch the arrow and it goes to them. Like, I. I have a saying that I like every single day. I send it to both people.
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Is that right? What was today saying?
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They didn't like this one. I'm gonna read it because I think it's great, but they thought it was negative. And I'm like, how is this negative? I send them something every day. If you want me to look. And I am like, I wish my mom had done this. I send them pearls of wisdom daily. Like, daily.
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Well, obviously, today's pearl was like, more of a.
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They didn't like this pearl as much. But I'm gonna read it to you, and I think it's important, so I'm gonna read the pearl. Because I posted it, so I'm gonna. And then I sent it to them. I don't know why they thought it was negative. Okay. Complaining about anything holds you in the place of refusing to receive the thing you've been asking for. Justifying about anything holds you in the place of refusing to let in the very thing that you've been asking for. Blaming someone holds you in the place of refusing to let in the thing that you've been asking for. Feeling guilty, feeling angry. It doesn't matter. What you call is a refusal, not a conscious one. You're asking. You can't help but ask. The universe is yielding. I must yield. It's a big question. Folks, why aren't you letting it in? So basically, see, we've got your head spinning too.
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Who's this person talking to?
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It's Abraham Hicks.
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Oh, the Abraham files. Okay, so you're talking about blockages there. These are all energy blocks.
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So they're basically saying, if you're complaining, you always say the complaint department's closed.
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The complaint department has been closed in my life since I was born.
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If you're complaining, if you're justifying, if you're blaming, it's blocking you. If you're feeling guilty, it's blocking you from the very thing that you've been asking the universe for. I think that's quite an important message.
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Well, it is. There are probably easier ways to say it.
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Well, but I chose to send that. And you know what? I send one, I probably send three a day. So they're bombarded with pearls from me.
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That's a pretty good one.
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I think so too.
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You're talking about blocking energy.
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I think so too. And you're talking justifying, guilty and complaining, which we all do every single day.
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Our frequency to be higher and more positive. Vibrational frequency.
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Because what you put out, you get back. You put out positivity, you get back positivity. It's all energy. You put out depression, Depression and negativity, that's what's going to come back. It's all energy. It's all energy.
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The love you get is equal to the love you give. Is that not right?
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Love thy neighbor. We could go on.
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Okay, yes, you could go on.
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Let's start a religion. No, I mean, we can make a lot of money. No, no, seriously. No, I know, but reading this book about, you know, evangelicals and how, and how they've, they've made like gabillions and gabillions of dollars starting churches all over the country, you get these. We could create a mega church. You and I could sit up there and we could, we could not only do this and have people listen to us, then we could ask for money. Hey, everybody, send money.
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Then I could pay off my American Express bill.
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Well, I think we should start a religion. Why not?
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And then, well, it's either that or you get in the pet business, because I'm telling you what the margins. We should be in the fricking pet business and be making clothes and toys and food for pets because that's where freaking money is.
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You're not kidding.
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I'm not.
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No, I, I see it. I, I go, I walk.
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Why are we not in the pet business?
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Well, come on.
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Do you know how much money we spend at freaking petco?
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Well, yeah, I mean, it's true. Every time, every time I, I go to the pet store, I, I, I, I say the same thing. We are in the wrong business.
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We are.
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Every single time I go.
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So we either need to be evangelicals. I'm sure we're gonna get a lot of shit for that. But that's okay. I've gotten so much shit over my life.
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It doesn't have to be evangelical, but he started religion and like, look, L. Ron Hubbard started Scientology, you know, and got really rich, had a lot of boats and stuff like that.
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I mean, yeah, but they all die.
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We all are gonna die.
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They all die. Weirdly, though. Well, they all have endings that are not great. No, well, right.
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Well, there have been. I do remember back in the 80s and 90s, there were a lot of those big televangelists ended up, they found.
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Out they were like, they're having affairs. Little boys, they're doing weird shit and then they die weirdly. So I'm not sure that that is our calling. I would probably be very good at it because I can sell. I can sell, right?
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What kind of. If we made a religion, what would we call it? I don't know. We have to come up with something. Wisdom for dough. Like, penny for our thoughts, pennies for our thoughts. I don't know what we call it. We gotta figure out a way to monetize.
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Maybe stay in our lane. I don't know.
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I have no idea how we got onto that one, but.
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I don't know. But I will say that I do send some real good pearls of wisdom to those kids. There's times where they really like them and they always respond. And then there's other times where today we're like, you're being negative. You need to work on yourself.
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Well, I think you're doing okay. I'd love to get some pearls of wisdom myself from you from time to time.
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Well, you're not in Instagram. I would send them to you also if you were, but I'll now just maybe.
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Is there a reason for me to go on Instagram?
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Well, I do. I am very good at mining things from Instagram, but you have to be in my chain of thought. And then I. There's like a handful of people that I send things to. I will tell you. I send. Erika Jayne and I send each other old movie clips of, like, we have an Instagram language that we do. So Eric and I will send each other clips of, like, Marilyn Monroe, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis, like, old films stuff.
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And does each clip have some kind of meaning to it?
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Well, they're movie clips usually, or like beautiful pictures that you've never seen of Joan Crawford or Marilyn. They just.
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They're not apropos of something that happens to be going on at that moment. Just random clips.
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No, it's all random. But that's. We have this language that we share on Instagram. I do the same with Isaac Boots. His are usually Joan Crawford or Bette Davis. So we share that. The girls. I share pearls of wisdom. Nene and Monique. It's the. You know, the gossip stuff, like what's going on in the housewife world or what's going on with this person? Like, then I get that here.
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So you have all these people that you send aphorisms to on a daily basis.
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How do you have a whole world? I have a whole world that I have on.
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This is a world that I don't know anything about.
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I have a whole life there.
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I don't know this world.
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I have a whole life There is that, right? It's. It's with your friends. I mean, you know, the kids have like a little thing called Close Friends. Or like, it's like a secret Instagram that only their close friends see. So they send each other, like, weird shit. I don't have that. Like mine.
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But you can get into real trouble with that.
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I don't want it. Yeah, I don't want that. But they send each other things that I don't think they should. Like. I don't agree with that. Because that shit gets out, period. Close Friends.
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That's what I'm saying.
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For now.
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Exactly.
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Close Friends.
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Close Friends. Yesterday, perhaps.
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Yeah, no, but I do have my little group that we communicate in this way that I think is fun. It's fun. I got my gossip group. I got my Pearls of Wisdom group with the girls. I got my movie TL, TCM movie. 40s, 30s stardom. I got my Broadways. I got life there. It's fun. You're missing out that part. You miss.
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Do I miss that?
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Oh, well, no, actually, you're not. But it's really fun for me. And then yesterday, you know, I haven't felt much like doing a dance video. I haven't. It just hasn't come through me.
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Well, it's gotta be authentic, right? You gotta feel it.
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I was just not, you know, I hadn't been in that place, but yesterday I was like, you know what? I gotta put it out there. I gotta put out some kind of a dance video. I didn't feel like doing one, but I have some saved up. Cause sometimes I just film them and I just save them. Cause why not?
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You have a dance bank? Dance video bank. Okay. All right.
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Very small one, but I have it.
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B
So you've made some deposits in the dance video bank, and now you want to make a withdrawal.
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A
So I went through to see if there was anything appropriate. Cause I felt the need that the people needed a joyful moment.
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B
The people.
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A
The people needed a joyful moment.
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B
The people.
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A
I needed a joyful moment. Okay, how about that? The world is pretty dark right now, and that's not always the appropriate time to do it. But I felt in my gut that was seven o' clock at night, which is not even a very good time to post. That's not popular time to post. But my gut said, you know what? The world needs a little bit of joy. So let's see if I can find a dance video in my bank. So go through. And, you know, I usually like to dance to the, you know, songs of the moment. So the song that I was dancing to was, like, six months ago, eight months ago.
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B
It was the hit that's, like, forever in pop. Pop world, right? Yeah.
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A
But I liked the message of it somehow. And I'm gonna tell you what it was called. It's a song by Dua Lipa called Houdini. Now, this is how my weird brain works. I don't know why, but I was like, oh, I like it. The lyrics are something about, you come, you come and then you go, and nobody really knows what you're gonna be doing. And I did. I wrote out Houdini. And then there's like a magic wand that you can put on. And that just moved me. I was like, I like that message. I come, I go. You never know what I'm gonna be doing. You never know. And I sent it out into the universe, and it seemed to work. People liked it.
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B
How do you know?
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A
Because I read some comments, which you're told. You always tell me not to do.
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B
I don't read comics. Cause you can read 10 good ones and you get one bad one and you want to commit suicide.
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A
Oh, I'm over that now. I've had so many bad ones that now I just kind of giggle. And sometimes I.
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B
Well, that's good. I'm glad you giggle at the bad ones because.
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A
Anyway, I did do that because it just felt like sometimes you just need a little distraction from the darkness of what's going on in the world right now. Cause it's pretty dark.
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B
So you'll show this video to me at some point. I'll see it and will I be charmed by it?
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A
It's pretty quick. I mean, they're silly, you know, the backyard. You see the backyard? I like doing it. When you can see the. I love. There's one person's comment actually made me smile. They said, oh, that's where the ugly leather pants comment happened.
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B
I remember that. That was the day I cooked the sauce. Right? Yeah. Okay.
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A
And that made me chuckle.
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B
Huh?
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A
That made me laugh and go, yep. I said, that is exactly where the. That happened. Yes. Anyway, I do have some joy over there at times with my little groups and my. You know.
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B
Well, I'm glad we've covered all that now. Eve, do we have any stuff we're going to do today?
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A
We have some more questions.
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B
We have questions.
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A
Yes. We have voicemails from. Oh, we have voicemails.
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B
A voicemail. All right. Okay. Got the headphones on. Very.
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A
You know that I found this shirt in my closet, and it still had a tag on it.
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B
I'm not surprised at all.
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A
It was really exciting. It's really soft. I didn't even know I had it.
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B
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of clothes that you don't know you have in there. Yep.
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A
I will say, my closet. It's pretty spectacular.
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B
Yeah. Okay.
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A
But my American Express bill is very high right now. Shit. It's very high right now.
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B
I know. I'm well aware of it.
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A
I didn't realize how high it was.
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B
I've told you in the past, but.
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A
No, but it's like high.
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B
Yeah. All right.
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A
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C
My husband once asked me, what are your happy hobbies? And I had nothing. Somewhere between motherhood, marriage, and the mess of life, I lost me. I'm Suzanne Hendricks, and this is I'm Fun Now, a podcast for women who feel the same. Ready to laugh again, dream again, and feel joy right right where you are. Every week, we'll share real stories, messy moments, and the hope God is already writing in your life. If you've been craving more play, more purpose and more fun, welcome home.
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A
Okay, you guys ready? Yeah. Okay.
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D
Hi, Lisa.
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A
Hi, Harry.
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D
Hi, everyone. Okay. My husband and I are also very opposite personalities and everything. I use you guys as an example constantly of how we're gonna work out.
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B
God.
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D
But we have a very different idea and definition of quality time. My thought is it's like Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant in Notting Hill. We're lying in a park, we're reading a book to each other. It's just like beautiful, romantic, chill alone time. His is more like we're in a noisy coffee shop with a little whiteboard talking about numbers and our future and our five year plan and our ten year plan. And so we really struggle to meet each other's needs when it comes to quality time. So I would love to know what is each of your definitions of quality time? Do they match and if not, what's a good compromise and what do you.
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A
Do to figure that out? Thank you. A great question. What a great question.
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B
Yeah. Quality time.
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A
I have answers.
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B
Well, I mean, certainly I'm hearing her talk about the coffee shop and the whiteboard and the numbers.
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A
We have all of that.
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B
Well, but I've never had a plan. I've never made a five year plan or a ten year plan.
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A
Oh, but we have the opposites going on. For sure.
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B
We definitely have the opposites going on. But the plan thing is sitting around and planning about numbers, that makes me nervous.
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A
That would make me nervous.
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B
It kind of makes me nervous too. And I have a lot of friends who swear by the five year plan idea. And the thing about with us, and particularly with me anyway, is that I'm interested in so many different things. I don't have just one direction that I go in.
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A
Same.
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B
And so if I were to pin myself down to a five year plan, it would probably narrow my focus to the point where I would only be doing that one thing for the five years or whatever. But I like to leave a lot of room for accidents to happen, for experiments and new things to come along that I didn't even know existed and then get on whatever bandwagon that presents itself to me rather than I'm going to just stay in this lane for five years and I'm going to accomplish this and get this achieved. Now, oftentimes, had I not made the five year plan, I still have achieved whatever I would have achieved if I had made the five year plan.
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A
But the question really is their idea of quality time is different. She likes the park and Reading a book. He likes the noisy coffee shop with the five year plan.
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B
You're right. That's really the question.
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A
So the question is, how do you come together? And the answer to me is like, I think what we do well. Cause we are that we both have completely different interests. But what we tend to do is like, we'll say, let's go to the deli for breakfast. And we have that moment where we go and we both enjoy the same thing and we have quality. It's our quality time. Or we go to the movies or we go to dinner. But I flash on the deli right now because that seems to be our routine in this moment where we go on a Sunday at like 12:30 after we've hiked or whatever and have our quality time, which seems to bring us together. Would you agree?
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B
No, I think absolutely. I mean, and this restaurant which we call the Deli is a deli. But it's where our kids both had their first jobs.
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A
And we've grown up. Everyone's grown up going there.
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B
Grew up going to this.
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A
We know the owners.
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B
Yeah. And. Well, we know the owners because our kids worked there and they, you know, they made toast.
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A
I made them work there. I made them work there.
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B
Did you?
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A
I did. They did. Nobody wanted to work there. I said, guess what, guys, you're gonna work. And you agreed with me, but I was really the driving force because I really felt like that was super important.
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B
But when Delilah got her second job at Brandy Melville, you didn't say she had to do that.
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A
No, she really wanted to do that.
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B
Yeah, so, but so she was working two jobs. So the first job you insisted that she get. I did not know you insisted. I thought they said, let's get a job and go to the deli.
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A
No, sweetie, I said, you guys are gonna work at the deli. No, mom, our friends don't have to work. Why do we have to work? I said, because you have to work. If you want to buy your car, you're going to work, because that's what we do. So no one was happy about that. They had to go on a Saturday morning and they went out the night before. Do you know how many times Delilah tried to get out of it? I'm like, nope, sorry. Had to be at work at 9am.
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B
I do remember trying to get out of it a few times, but yeah.
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A
Oh, they were so mad at me.
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B
But then when she got her first paycheck, I think she saw how grand is this? Because she went out and got another job.
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A
Greatest thing we ever did is make those kids work because none of their friends had to work. And I obviously had to work. And my first job was at Lerner's at 14 and a half.
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B
Yeah, I sold Christmas trees every Christmas starting at, like, 13, all through my teenage years. And in the summer, I would put an ad in the paper, which you could do in those days. The ad, and it just said, Handyman for hire, $5 an hour. Have car, will travel. And my friend Charlie and I made loads of money every summer doing that.
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A
And I set up my lemonade stand at the golf tournament. I made $300 when I was like, 12.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. Pay taxes on it and probably got cash. Yeah, that was a lot back then. So, you know, I knew that if we didn't make those kids work, it'd be a problem.
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B
Well, thank you for doing. Thank you. Forcing. I didn't realize that you were forcing them to work there, but I threatened them. Okay, well, then good for you. Because now they have worked a work ethic.
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A
They do.
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B
They probably wouldn't have had.
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A
Of course they wouldn't. You know, it's a little too easy in the world that we live in in Hollywood. It is. It's too easy. It's too easy. And they were so mad at me because, you know, their friends that they went to school with were from, you know, higher echelon families and they didn't have to work. And I was like, well, you do. Sorry. You want to buy something, you have to. And then Jim and Robin down the street had the two girls, and they also made those girls pay for everything that they bought.
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B
Yeah. Did they have jobs too, somewhere when they were kids?
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A
No, but they got an allowance, and Robin made them pay for what they wanted. Like, if they wanted something, she made them use their allowance. So I also see how well they turned out.
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B
Well, I have to say that I am very proud of our kids, and I'm very proud that they have this work ethic that they do have. And. And I think that making them work probably was a big part of that.
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A
Like, they literally had to answer the phone and butter bagels in the back, and they were so mad about it.
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B
But wait a minute. At one point, Delilah did something. She was working in some capacity where she got some tips, because I'll never.
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A
Forget, at the deli, she got tips.
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B
She got tips, and she had a special envelope, and she was so excited to get tips. Tips were like. I mean, I. She was.
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A
They gave her, like, 20 bucks.
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B
She would light up on f. Oh, my God, I. I made this money.
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A
On tips because they were nice on the phone and, you know, they would take the to go orders and somebody would come in and pick up their order and they'd give them a tip. That was the best thing we did for those kids, I'm telling you.
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B
Yeah, well. So getting back to quality time. Okay.
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A
Whoa. Bring us back.
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B
Well, I would, I would. The quality time. I would love to somehow get you to come with me on one of my camping trips. That would be quality time for me. That would be like if you could experience the views, the vistas, just the breathtaking place that you get yourself to. It's hard to get there.
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A
I know. Could I helicopter there? Is there any way you could drop me at the top? I would do that.
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B
I'm sure you would.
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A
I just don't think physically I could make it. That's why I've never been able to. I've never tried to do it because your friend, who's very in shape, couldn't do it because of the altitude sickness. You can't forget that.
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B
Well, that's one thing. Altitude is one thing. And it's also just really, really, really, really hard climb.
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A
Like, I don't think I could do it. There's no trail, you guys. It's just up a mountain with rocks. I mean, I'd like to. If you could drop me there in a helicopter, that's like me in a noisy coffee shop. You given me your five year plan. I'm like, I'll die before I get up there. So what's the point anyway? Could you make it a little easier?
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B
That would be quality time for me. Well, you know, we've tried a lot of different things in our lives. We have. And of all of those different things that we've done, of all the recreational things that we've done, which one would be the one you'd like to repeat?
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A
Like, give me some examples.
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B
We've been scuba diving.
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A
I do like that.
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B
We've been, you know, skiing. We've been snowboarding.
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A
We've didn't like that. Yeah, that was hard.
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B
You didn't like the snowboarding?
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A
No.
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B
But you're a good skier. You like to ski.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know the thing, when you're skiing, you're not together. You're just.
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A
I love to ski that. Love to ski. That's fun. We've done so many fun things. What I would like to do now is go to Egypt and go down the Nile.
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B
We will do that. We will do that.
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A
I want to do that.
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B
Having done that I can tell you that it is absolutely amazing to see, has to be seen, and I haven't.
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A
So that's what I. You know, that would be quality time that I would like to do with you.
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B
And maybe. And maybe now in our twilight years, we can travel, you know, like. And everybody's always. You see these ads about the old. I want to go on those boats, like the Viking boats going down the river.
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A
On the river.
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B
When the old guy is saying, yeah, you know, the best thing in life is to remember great, you know, and.
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A
Yeah, that's the owner of Viking.
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B
Okay.
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A
I would do that because, you know, I'm not big on cruises, but I went on that goop cruise with Isaac, and it was good. And we went to Taormina and, you know, where they filmed White Lotus.
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B
Okay. Yeah.
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A
We went to the Four Seasons and had lunch, and that was a fun trip. Like, we'd go on the boat. It was a small boat, so it wasn't cuckoo crazy.
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B
But wait a sec. So you. You were on this boat?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Going. Were you on. You were on. On the Mediterranean? Where? Where. Where were you?
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A
Well, where's Taormina? In Italy? That's the Mediterranean, I think.
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B
So it's the. Either the Adriatic or the Mediterranean. One of those. So. So were you accosted by people who recognized you on that trip at all?
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A
I mean, not really. A little bit, but not really, no. It was a goop cruise. So Gwyneth showed up and gave a speech to the ladies, mostly ladies, for, like, 30 minutes. And then you'd go to a port. Taormina was the most fun. Went to a couple of them. It was a fun trip. I had my own room and I enjoyed it. So I think a boat, like a small boat like that, like those Viking boats on the river. I like that idea. It was so easy. You don't have to take your luggage. You just get off for the day and you come back. We'd have a car you would rent, like a van, drive us up to Taormina, walked all through the streets, went to the Four Seasons, had lunch. This was before the show filmed there.
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B
Oh, really?
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A
Before? So then the show filmed there, and.
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D
We were like, oh, my God, we were there.
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A
That was really fun. So I like to do that with you.
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B
Well, let's do it.
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A
I love that. I just. We need to travel more now.
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B
We're just busy.
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A
I know that's the thing. But that is quality time to me with you. If we get to go travel. Not sitting on a beach in Mexico Because I feel like we've done that so much.
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B
Like, we did that with the kids. That was more of a. That was a family thing.
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A
Yeah.
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B
When you and I were. We traveled before the kids, we would go to Hawaii time. We. We did go to Mexico a couple of times.
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A
Now I want to, like, experience places that I've never been with you. Quality time.
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B
Well, then that will be our quality time. No coffee shops with numbers and so.
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A
What I think the answer to this question should be, or could be, is find something. Because you can't really. You can go do the other things with each other, but find something like we do. Going to the deli. That's quality time that you can come.
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B
Together on a weekly basis.
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A
On a weekly basis and do it to where you're both happy about it.
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B
Yeah. And then go off and do that other stuff, too, once in a while to have that kind of quality time. Yeah. It's. You know, marriages are interesting, Difficult, fun, amazing joy rides, but also challenging, you know. Yeah. Being married and staying married and being reasonably happy in your. And loving your spouse and not wanting.
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A
To kill them and.
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B
Yeah. And still wanting to travel with them. Still wanting to hang out with them after all these years. I mean. I mean, there's probably nothing about you or I that you or I don't know about already and haven't already discussed and talked about, and we've been down that road over and over again, and yet we're still happy to hang out.
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A
So it's kind of a miracle.
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B
It is kind of a miracle. Yeah. So whatever we did, I guess we did it right. Maybe you can, I don't know, follow, take an example, whatever.
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A
Yeah. All right, what's the next thing?
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D
Okay, next question.
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E
Hi, Harry and Lisa. I just listened to your first voicemail episode. I've been listening since the beginning, and I just want to say thank you for making this podcast. I always listen to it while walking my dog, Dorothy, and it brings me a lot of comfort. So my question for you is, how do you make the big jump to go after Your dream? I'm 23 years old, and I didn't know how difficult the early 20s would be. I thought there would be a time of great freedom, but it turns out they're more a time of great stress. I'd like to get a PhD in history, which sounds really scary to say out loud, but history and research are really my passions. And, you know, it's not one of those things that a lot of people encourage you to go after. So I imagine you Know, acting is a similar thing. So how did you guys take that big leap to go after, you know, a career that many people don't succeed in? And that can seem quite scary as a young person. Thanks. Bye.
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A
I love these questions. They're so thoughtful, you know, they really are.
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B
I, I'm very appreciative of this question. And there's a key word in there. I, I, you know what the key word is?
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A
Passion.
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B
Passion, exactly. So you follow your passion period and period. That is what will drive you, get you everywhere you need to go. And if you have a passion, you are so fortunate because a lot of people struggle to find it. And if history is your passion, if getting a PhD in history, which sounds like I would love to do that.
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A
Too, I was like, that sounds so interesting to me.
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B
You pick an era, pick a time, and you go in and delve into that time in human history and try to figure out what happened. And can we avoid any mistakes that were made? Can we follow some, some of the successes that happen and figure out how to have successes? I mean, it would be an amazing thing to do a PhD experience in history. So I would encourage you to do it for sure. It sounds fascinating, but the main thing is that you have passion, because if you don't have passion for something, you can be basically in the dark for your whole life.
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A
You're so lucky to be 23 years old and be passionate about something and you sound very clear about it. You know exactly what you want. You're just a bit scared, which is completely understandable. And I always say, feel the fear and do it anyway. I love that book. It's a great book. You're so lucky to have the passion. Just don't try to, try not to think about it too much. I think we get in our own way by thinking too much.
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B
I don't know if there are other academics in your family or not, whether that's something you've grown up in and around. Certainly I grew up in a household that had absolutely nothing to do with acting or the theater same or anything like that. So. But I did develop this passion quite actually late in my early life because a lot of people have passion for one thing or another when they're quite young. And I wanted to be an architect. That was where my passion lay at first. But then when I realized that I could do this and I kind of fell into it, then I developed a great deal of passion for it. And that's what kept me going and why I'm still here today. Because I still feel the same amount of passion around understanding this craft of acting. And I still go to acting class every week. I still put up scenes. I still.
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A
Which is amazing.
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B
New characters all the time. And that's because there's passion there. So you're way ahead of the game if you've got that passion going on.
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A
Yeah. Because, you know, I never feel like I'm working. It doesn't feel like a job where it's like, oh, God, I gotta go to work tonight.
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B
No, I can't wait to retire. You know, when can I, like, stop doing this?
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A
You know, I never, you know, we're very fortunate in that. That doesn't. I don't feel like my passion and my work is work.
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B
No. Some people have asked me, how long have you been working? And I would say I've never worked a day in my life. So if you can say that about what you're doing, then you know that you're being. Whatever you're doing is coming from a place of passion and a place of pure energy that's authentic. And you're not going to manufacture some interest in something. You actually have interest in it. And so, yeah, way ahead of the game.
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A
Go for it. Yeah, that's what I have to say. Run, don't walk. Go for it.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. You can do it. I love that.
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A
That's a great question.
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B
We hope we've answered some questions.
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A
So fun. I love your keep leaving voicemails because they're just. It's so great to. They're so thoughtful and it's so great to talk about it because it spurs us on to talk about our stuff.
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B
Yeah, we can engage that way, so it's great.
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A
Love it.
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B
Keep them coming. And once again, thank you everybody for tuning in to let's not talk about the Husband.
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Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.
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So see you next week.
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Until then let's not talk about the husband. Please note that this episode may contain.
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