Ask Lisa & Harry: Rumors & Real Housewives, My Partner Wants Kids But I Don't & Dating App Sleuths

Summary

Podcast Summary: Let's Not Talk About The Husband

Episode: Ask Lisa & Harry: Rumors & Real Housewives, My Partner Wants Kids But I Don't & Dating App Sleuths
Date: August 15, 2025
Hosts: Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin
Producer: Dear Media
Timestamps are approximate and may vary by several seconds due to mid-conversation transitions.

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Episode Overview

In this lively Q&A episode, Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin tackle listener voicemails about relationship dilemmas, rumors, and family. With their signature humor and candor, they share personal anecdotes, lessons learned from Hollywood, and a peek behind reality TV’s curtain. Topics range from the joys and headaches of lending things to their daughter, Harry’s journey with sobriety, confronting salacious rumors, and how their daughters found their career paths. The episode brims with warmth, teasing banter, and real-world advice, all delivered in the couple’s unmistakable style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Daughters, Fashion, and Family Dynamics

[00:45–06:50]

• Delilah "Borrowing" Lisa’s Things

  • Lisa recounts how Delilah, staying with them temporarily, has “stolen so many of my things” (01:00), from bags to shoes, which Lisa is now gleefully reclaiming.
  • Funny mother-daughter moment: Lisa and Delilah, both nude before showers, compare bodies. Delilah remarks, “Oh my God, look it. We have the same body. I’m going to look okay when I’m old!” (01:38).
  • Harry observes, “The thing about Delilah is she’s the same size. Her feet are the same size. Her body’s the same size.” (01:11).

• On Collecting and Enjoyment

  • Lisa revels in acquiring accessories, “I get such joy from buying shoes, sunglasses, regular glasses, and bags.” (04:51).
  • Harry philosophizes on status symbols—“Girls like status symbols…shoes are a status symbol, glasses are a status symbol…” (04:10).
  • They tease each other gently about favorite jeans and wardrobe staples.

2. Sobriety, Resilience, and Past Struggles

[06:03–12:02]

• Celebrating Harry’s One Year Sober
  • Lisa congratulates Harry: “One year today, you guys, one year back sober.” (06:07).
  • Harry reflects on past cycles with alcohol and Ambien, especially during tough times when they were being sued over their store (08:00–09:23).
  • He describes his four years in AA: “I did 90 meetings in 90 days. I said, if I’m going to do this, I’m going to go all in…Both of my brothers were major alcoholics. They both died.” (10:17–10:31).
  • Memorable Quote:

    “One of the greatest gifts that I ever got was doing that for that four year period.” – Harry Hamlin (11:05)

  • Both stress the importance and difficulty of “feeling your feelings” when sober.

3. Voicemail Q&A: Listener Advice

[13:28–44:49]

a. Dating App Sleuthing & Exclusivity

[13:31–18:56]

• Caller wonders if checking a partner’s dating app activity is a red flag.
  • Lisa and Harry, both not from the dating app era, deliberate on modern exclusivity.
  • Lisa: “I think they have to communicate…say, I’m just curious, are you on other dating apps? Are we exclusive?” (16:26)
  • Harry: “If you’re in a position of having to do [dating app sleuthing], things are already in trouble…that’s a red flag.” (16:35)
  • Harry’s Principle: “You always have to tell the truth, because it’ll always come back to bite you…that’s the postman ringing twice.” (17:27)
  • Lisa: “It’s just like a spider web that you just get entangled in.” (18:56)

b. Managing Rumors in the Spotlight / Real Housewives Backstory

[19:03–29:42]

• Listener asks how Lisa and Harry deal with rumors affecting their marriage.
  • Lisa lists rumors about Harry (“You are gay and you have affairs in Canada all the time with Patricia…” (20:07)), Harry cracks up.
  • The infamous Real Housewives moment when Kim Richards said, "Let's talk about the husband" is dissected. Lisa, in hindsight, sees it as a masterful producer move:

    “I had already had plenty of issues with her…this was three months in. So I was just mad. I was so mad that she would do that to you and that we would then have to deal with it.” (22:40)

  • Harry’s approach: “Water off a duck’s back is how I deal with all that stuff.” (21:32)
  • Lisa admits her “Mama Bear” instincts led to her famously breaking a wine glass in the show’s Amsterdam fight (20:53/22:40).
  • Notable Reflection: On reality TV:

    “If I had laughed in her face, which would have been evolved…I don’t think I would have been hired in the first place to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.” – Lisa (26:44)

  • Harry: “Those kind of shows…they depend on personality disorders.” (27:00, said with dark humor)
  • On Lisa’s reputation: “People ask me, is she a diva…? No, not really. She’s little Lisa Rinna from Medford, Oregon.” (29:18)

c. Core Conflict: My Partner Wants Kids But I Don’t

[29:48–34:42]

• A listener, Sarah, is in a long-distance relationship; he wants kids, she doesn’t.
  • Harry advises: “Take that relationship one moment at a time…not try to figure out what next year looks like, what next week looks like…Life unfolds one moment at a time.” (32:18)
  • Lisa: “I think you just answered it beautifully.” (33:12)
  • Harry: “I would put my love for my partner over any idea about having kids…let it change.” (34:35)
  • Both offer hope that things can evolve, and encourage openness to change.

d. On Daughters’ Careers: Modeling & Music

[34:47–44:49]

• Emma from the UK asks about Delilah and Amelia’s entry into modeling.
  • Lisa and Harry describe how both girls watched America’s Next Top Model as children and obsessed over it:

    “She saw it, and I decided that is what I want to do. And she put her mind to it, and she just made it happen.” – Lisa (36:19)

  • “She’s like a Stinger missile on modeling since she was eight or nine.” – Harry (36:37)
  • Delilah, while modeling, is most passionate about singing—her natural talent is celebrated.
  • Lisa credits Amelia’s decisiveness as her “superpower,” and the parents’ role as supportive, not pushy:

    “We encouraged them to do what they wanted to do…and we helped where we could…but it’s not our world either.” – Harry (44:04)

  • Harry notes, “It didn’t hurt that our next door neighbor…is Cindy Crawford,” who was a mentor for Amelia (43:38).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Lisa on Collecting:

  “I get such joy from buying shoes, sunglasses, regular glasses, and bags.”
  (04:51)

• Harry on Sobriety:

  “One of the greatest gifts that I ever got was doing that for that four year period.”
  (11:05)

• Lisa on Rumors:

  “I was more mad at her because she would do that to you in that moment…”
  (22:40)

• Harry on TV Production:

  “Those kind of shows…they depend on personality disorders.”
  (27:00)

• Lisa, Self-awareness:

  “If I had laughed in her face, which would have been evolved…I don’t think I would have been hired in the first place…”
  (26:44)

• Harry’s Honesty Rule:

  “You always have to tell the truth, because it’ll always come back to bite you…that’s the postman ringing twice.”
  (17:27)

• Harry’s Relationship Wisdom:

  “Take that relationship one moment at a time…”
  (32:18)

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Episode Flow & Tone

• The episode is heartfelt and comedic, with Lisa’s “bold, larger-than-life” energy and Harry’s laid-back, thoughtful responses. Their interplay is warm and familiar, blending vulnerability with playful ribbing. Even as they discuss heavy subjects (addiction, relationship crises, rumors), they maintain a hopeful, slightly irreverent outlook.

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Quick Topical Guide (Timestamps)

• Stuff Delilah took / Mother-daughter similarities: 00:45–03:40
• Harry’s sobriety journey: 06:03–12:02
• Voicemails begin: 13:28
  • Dating app sleuthing, Truth & Relationships: 13:31–18:56
  • Rumors & Real Housewives Behind-the-Scenes: 19:03–29:42
  • Relationship/Children Dilemma: 29:48–34:42
  • Daughters' modeling/music careers: 34:47–44:49

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Closing Takeaways

• Honesty, communication, and living in the moment are recurring themes in Lisa and Harry’s advice to listeners.
• Rumors and external drama are treated with humor and a thick skin, but not without reflection on the cost of living in the public eye.
• Family pride is palpable, especially when sharing their daughters’ self-driven successes.
• Above all, the episode is a testament to enduring partnership—a balance between laughter, candor, and unconditional support.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.

[B]

And I'm Harry Hamlin.

[A]

And this is. Let's not talk about the Husband.

[B]

We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.

[A]

Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell. And on this podcast, we're gonna own it, baby.

[B]

Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hey, everybody. Thanks for checking in. One more time to let's not talk about the Husband, who's sitting right here. And there's a good chance we might talk about me, right? Or. No, not today.

[A]

You never know. You never know what's going to come out of my mouth, that's for sure. Well, Right.

[B]

No, I don't know what's going to come out of your mouth, and nor do I. Surprise.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is she going to say next? Oh, my God.

[A]

Well, I was just telling you as we were walking up that Delilah has been staying at the house because she was moving into a new house.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

So she's been staying at our house in the interim. And I just said to you as we were walking in, I said that Delilah has stolen so many of my things.

[B]

Oh, that's right.

[A]

That I found them. I found a bunch of them at the house and I've stolen them back.

[B]

As well you should.

[A]

I mean, can you imagine how much more there is, though, at her house?

[B]

The thing about Delilah is she's the same size.

[A]

I know.

[B]

So her feet are the same size.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Her body's the same size.

[A]

Yep. You know what we did the other day? This is so cute. It was such a cute moment that I treasure it now forever. We were in the bathroom and she was going to take a shower, and she was naked. It's probably going to gross people out, but that's okay. And I was naked. And even better, she said, so we looked. She goes, look in the mirror. I. I'm going to have. We have the same body. We have the same body. She goes, oh, my God. I'm going to look. Okay. When I'm old. She goes, oh, my God, look it. We have the same body. And I. It was just such a cute moment. I will treasure that moment actually forever, because she was.

[B]

Was it the word old that triggered you?

[A]

No, no, no. It was a great moment that she.

[B]

Well, but it was. It's funny, right?

[A]

It's hilarious. Because she's like, I have something to look forward to. Because you're. You don't look like you actually look good, mom.

[B]

Well, you do look great. I. I walked in on you this morning. When? After you taken a shower. You were completely naked as a jaybird when I walked in. And what did I say? I said, there's my naked wife. My beautiful naked wife.

[A]

Yeah, I was listening to Sunset Boulevard on my Siri speaker that I just put in the bathroom. I don't know why I've waited all this time to put.

[B]

What did you put in the bathroom?

[A]

My apple Siri speaker. You know, one of those big speakers. Oh, really? So I can play my music.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I was listening to Sunset Boulevard because that's kind of my jam right now. I'm listening to the soundtrack. You know, they just closed on Broadway.

[B]

I did not know that. They just.

[A]

Yeah, they just had their final performance and you know, it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen on Broadway.

[B]

So anyway, you've been playing it at home. I've heard you listening to it before. Yeah. So anyway, sounds amazing.

[A]

Anyway, I've stolen back quite a few things, but I would imagine she has quite a few more at her house because this is just stuff that she's got at our house right now. Shoes, two bags and some clothes.

[B]

So it's a little bit like getting a brand new wardrobe. These are. Now, these are things that you've never worn before.

[A]

This bag I stole back. It was brand new when I got it and I never used it. She's had it for years.

[B]

Looks very fancy. That's very fancy.

[A]

It's a very fancy. And I have stolen it back. I had to clean it out because it was somewhat dirty. I had to take some wipes and you know, girls use their purses. Like she's really used it, which is great. And then I stole back a leopard Fendi. You know, I love my vintage bags. It's a leopard Fendi vintage bag.

[B]

And girls and your shoes in your bags, you know, I mean, what's that about?

[A]

I know that you men can't.

[B]

Guys are like into watches and stuff. I mean, I know a couple of guys who. I'm not into watches. This is a 25 watch. That's all I want.

[A]

You do have your spent. You have a nice.

[B]

I have watches, but.

[A]

But you don't wear them.

[B]

No, I'm not a collector watch. I mean, girls like to collect like handbags.

[A]

Why do you think we like that?

[B]

Celine handbags and Balenciaga handbags and Hermes handbags.

[A]

Why do you think we like to do that so much?

[B]

Girls like status symbols. I Think. I don't know. Shoes are a status symbol. Glasses are a status symbol. Hats could be a status symbol. I don't know.

[A]

I love things so much.

[B]

You like things. I know. So what's up with that?

[A]

I, I. Let's try to break down. I love bags and shoes and accessories. Bags, shoes, and glasses.

[B]

Is it a form of expression or is it something you need to feel whole?

[A]

I don't need it to feel whole, but it, it is very helpful in.

[B]

To feel better about yourself.

[A]

Well, I just like it. So is that feeling better about yourself or you get a real. I get such joy from buying shoes, sunglasses, regular glasses and bags.

[B]

Let me ask you this question. Do you get joy from having them or buying them?

[A]

Both.

[B]

Would you get more joy from the moment you buy them as when they're sitting in the closet and you haven't worn them?

[A]

I still have joy.

[B]

You still have joy. They give you joy, These things. These.

[A]

I love them.

[B]

Okay. You do?

[A]

I do. I, it makes me so happy. And I just, I like guys who.

[B]

Collect cars, watches, and have, you know, I have no thing that, that turns me on.

[A]

You like what, what, what do you.

[B]

What do you see me obsessed about?

[A]

What did I just say about your pants? What did I just say in the elevator? We have to say it because it's funny.

[B]

You said, what are you going to do if you didn't have those particular, that particular pair of jeans?

[A]

What would you wear? I said, what would you wear if all of a sudden they're dirty, by the way, I'm just going to say they're dirty right there.

[B]

Oh. Oh, they got.

[A]

So I said to Harry, you guys, I said to Harry in the elevator, I said, what would you wear if you didn't have those pants?

[B]

Well, I have lots of different jeans and lots of these happen to fit really well.

[A]

You are just wearing those right now. So my question was, what would you do? What would you wear if you didn't, like, all of a sudden. Those were missing.

[B]

Okay, so here's the thing. All right? So since I've been intermittent fasting and since I haven't been using alcohol, which.

[A]

By the way, yeah, you can tell is a year. Today is one year, you guys, One year back sober.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wasn't. It wasn't that big of a deal, but, yeah, I decided to not use alcohol again. So I have lost a considerable amount of weight and there are very few pants that I own today that fit me the way these do because these were too small when I got them, and now they're sort of. They fit perfectly. Because I've lost, you know, 15 pounds.

[A]

Well, cheers to you. Because you should get a cake today because a year. A year sober is a good thing. And you get a cake, don't you get a chip or a cake if you want.

[B]

I mean, if you're. If you're. Yeah. If you're in the program, they give you a cake.

[A]

I think that's amazing. Good for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I know it's hard. I know it's not an easy. It's not easy.

[B]

Did you see it being difficult for me?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When was it hard for me?

[A]

Well, no, I. Mentally, I think it's hard.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah, I think it's challenging.

[B]

It was not difficult for me at all to quit.

[A]

No, it's difficult for me. No, no. But no, it's.

[B]

I think first year, I'm very happy not, you know, I was always tempted to have a glass of wine in the evening, have some lunch, liquor to go, sleep.

[A]

Well, let's. Let's tell them four years. It was four years that you back.

[B]

And you mean when I first did stop.

[A]

Yes. We should talk about it, because I think that's what this is for. Yeah.

[B]

Because. Well. Well, yeah. So back in the day, when I first stopped using alcohol, that was back. Well, many times I've stopped in my.

[A]

Life, but this one.

[B]

One time, we were being sued by two different people. We were being sued by our landlords, who shall, for the moment, remain nameless. But maybe we'll bring that up at some point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it was pretty gnarly.

[A]

Being sued by what?

[B]

We were being sued by both of our landlords.

[A]

Oh, so same thing.

[B]

We had these stores, Bel Gray, and they were doing great back in the early aughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, really great. I mean, unbelievably great.

[A]

We've talked about it.

[B]

And then. And then 2008 happened, and so we got sued. So life.

[A]

We've talked a little bit.

[B]

Life was a little intense back in 2010.

[A]

And I tell them that you were taking Ambien.

[B]

Well, of course. I mean, I was trying to sleep because we. We were being sued by two different people and. And it looked like we were going to be in deep trouble.

[A]

Well, we were being sued for like $500,000 more. Were we?

[B]

Yeah, if you add them all up, we're being sued for more. So we were just a mom and pop company. We didn't have huge backers.

[A]

We had no backers.

[B]

So there was no way for us to keep that going. And it was Very difficult time. So I decided to stop. Back then, in 2010, I stopped using alcohol. And you went into the program, but I stopped first. I stopped for a few months.

[A]

Before you went into the program?

[B]

Before I went in the program. But, you know, thinking that, well, if I stop, you know, having wine in the evening or whatever, then, you know, maybe I'll get my shit together. Maybe I won't feel so bad. And I didn't work because I kept taking the sleeping pills to go to sleep, you know, and it's like, I.

[A]

Can be a vicious, vicious, vicious, vicious cycle, you know?

[B]

No, for me, Ambien is like a deadly drug.

[A]

It can be very deadly. I can't take it for more than five days. That's it. Five days.

[B]

And by the way, we have several friends who committed or died, I know, accidentally from falling off of things, I know, buildings, etcetera, While taking Ambien. So ambient can be very, very dangerous drug. I'm not a doctor, I'm not an expert, but just for me, right? Ambien can be same with me. So I stopped taking, using the alcohol, just was using the Ambien, and I was. I was fucked up. So I went into the program, and that helped a lot.

[A]

Four years.

[B]

Four years. Yeah. And I have to say that having. Because when I went into it, I'll never forget I told you, I said, lisa, I've decided to go into the program. And I said, I'm going to go up into our bedroom with this big book, because it's a big, fat blue book. And I said, imagine that I've gotten the flu and that I'm in bed and I'm not going to come out of the bedroom for a couple of days because. Because I went in there and just read that book.

[A]

I don't remember this. I don't remember this.

[B]

And I read the book for three days straight and read all the way through it, and I annotated, I underlined places that I thought were amazing. Read the entire thing. I did 90 meetings.

[A]

That's right. I do remember this.

[B]

90 meetings in 90 days. I said, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to go all in and find out why my brothers. Because both of my brothers were deep, deep, deep. They were major alcoholics.

[A]

Well, they both died.

[B]

And they both died. Alcoholism, holism, and smoking cigarettes and all that. So. So I said to myself, self, you know, got to figure this out, because I don't want to. I don't want to go down the same road that they've Gone.

[A]

And your parents were.

[B]

Both my parents both drank. My probably, I would say alcoholic is a big term to use, but they probably were. But my brothers were like, you couldn't go out to dinner with them at night. They'd be. Have to be carried out at the end of the night. Night. So I was like, what the. So I. I just decided that I was not going to go down that road. And. Yeah. And. And I. I would say that everybody should do the program.

[A]

You've said that.

[B]

Everybody. One of the greatest gifts that I ever got was doing that for that four year period.

[A]

I know I got to live with.

[B]

And then the pandemic happened and bada boom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I, you know, it's. It's a whole new world when you don't use anything to, you know, numb yourself. Numb yourself out and.

[A]

Yeah, it's challenging.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because then you got to feel your feelings.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah. It's brave. Congratulations.

[B]

Well, thank you. One year today.

[A]

One year. I think it's so good.

[B]

Well, you know, it is what it is. It's not a. It's not that big a deal in my life, by the way. For a lot of people. Stopping drinking is a huge deal for me. It's like something I'm happy about doing.

[A]

I've watched you stop a few times. You know, when I first met you, you were not drinking.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't drink for a few years back then, back in the.

[A]

You did not drink?

[B]

When I would go to Broadway and work on Broadway, when I would go and do a play. I never drank when I was doing a play, you know, so. Yeah.

[A]

Well, good for you.

[B]

Well, thank you.

[A]

I think it's a big thing and I think it's great.

[B]

Well, there you.

[C]

Hey, guys. I'm Whitney Port, and this is With Wit. A lot of you may know me from reality tv, and the reality is a lot's happened since the Hills. With Wit is dedicated to having real, raw and occasionally ridiculous conversations with the people who have had a profound impact on me. Because on With Wit, very little is off limits. Subscribe so you don't miss any of the amazing conversations to come. New episodes of With Wit are available every Tuesday on all platforms.

[B]

So, Eve, do we have any kind of, like, thing to lean on?

[A]

We do. We do. Always. Yeah. So we. We haven't done a voicemail episode. Oh, I love a voicemail. I just love it, you know, I love it. Yeah. So let's get into some of your listener voicemails. We have a whole bunch for you okay, let's get a cake, too. The reason to get a cake. I love cake. You know I do.

[B]

You do love cake.

[A]

Anytime I can get cake. And by the way, I didn't get to eat my birthday cake that you got me so lovingly because I was so damn sick that. We need to get a cake so I can have a bite for my belated birthday.

[B]

Okay, we'll get a cake. It'll cover both things. Okay, cool.

[A]

Okay, great. Let me know whenever you guys are ready. I'm ready.

[D]

Hi, Lisa. Hi, Harry. Look, I'm in a bit of a pickle. I've been seeing a guy for two months. Things have been really good, and we've discussed being exclusive, but we haven't become exclusive yet. I was wondering if he was still using his hookup apps. So I made a burner account to check, and he has been. He's been active. So what do you guys think? Should I drop him or is that fine because we haven't technically become exclusive yet?

[A]

What kind of account did he start? Like, he started, like, a burner account to go on basically, like a fake account so he could see if his person was also on the apps on, like, dating apps. Yeah. And he is. Yeah. What do you think? I mean, I don't.

[B]

I don't know much about dating apps myself.

[A]

I don't either, since we haven't had.

[B]

To do it, but they were invented after we were married.

[A]

But they're not exclusive. They haven't decided to be exclusive, so.

[B]

Well, I'm learning about this from our kids. I know, because we watch our kids have their. You know, they're dating different people, and there's this whole thing about whether you're boyfriend, girlfriend, whether you're. You're exclusive or not. What do they call it when you're. When they're exclusive with each other?

[A]

It's just exclusive.

[B]

Well, it's like, no. When somebody says, do you want to meet my boyfriend? Do you want to be my girlfriend? That's all they have to say. I mean, we used to say, do you want to go steady?

[A]

Or pinned, wasn't it? Well, pinned was, like, my mom's era.

[B]

What kind of a pin would that be? A pin from your fraternity or something. But what kind of a pin is it? I remember the term being pinned, but that would require a pin to be pinned.

[A]

That's what they used to do, though. So they would physically.

[B]

But whose pin was it? Where did the pin come from?

[A]

Like a sorority or something? Or maybe they had pins in high school. They would physically pin you. And so you were. You were. You had a physical. Remember this pinning.

[B]

Yeah, but what I remember. I don't know, but you brought it up. You said, you get pinned. So what does that mean?

[A]

It just means, like, you're going steady, but physically you get pinned.

[B]

Okay, so that must be some kind of, like, a sorority pin or a.

[A]

Anyway, that was the thing, and now it's going steady. Now it's exclusive. That's what the kids say.

[B]

This fellow, he's doing research to find out if his significant other is, like, cheating on him. Is that what's going on?

[A]

Well, he said, should I ditch him or should I be done with him? If he's, like, dating around, I think he should just talk to him.

[B]

Wait a sec. What's this burner thing? So that's a burner phone?

[A]

No. So he made a burner, like, Tinder account, or maybe it was Grindr or fake account. If the person he was seeing was also on the apps, and then he saw that he was. I think they have to communicate, and they have. He has to talk to him about it and say, I'm just curious. Are you on other dating apps? Are we exclusive? How do you want to do it? I think you just have to communicate absolutely.

[B]

You know, and. And this whole idea of going kind of getting a burner account and having to do that kind of.

[A]

I don't think that's a good thing.

[B]

No, I mean, if you have. If you're in a position of having to do that, things are already in trouble.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I agree, because you got to be.

[B]

You got to be completely above board. And we were just talking about this this morning because we know somebody who's had a sort of a disaster happen in their life, and. And I go, well, let's look at the person who had the disaster happened. Did they live where their. Was their life clean, or were they trying to get away with stuff?

[A]

Well, you said the postman always rings twice.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So explain that to people. Okay, so in your opinion.

[B]

In my. In my opinion, in my experience, you know, there is this thing called karma out there, and karma is. I mean, it's an ephemeral thing. God knows if it's even real. However, there just seems to be karma and people who act badly and.

[A]

Or do things illegally or try to skirt the system.

[B]

Exactly. Whatever that system is. The system. If you're talking about a system of being just good and kind and truthful. And I always say to our kids, you always have to tell the truth. You just you have to, because it'll always come back to bite you.

[A]

Always.

[B]

If you don't. And that's the postman ringing twice. So if you're. If you're living a straight life and you're living a moral and, I don't know, a straight life, then you can live an honest life. If you're honest and truthful in your.

[A]

Life and legal, I think all those things. Right.

[B]

Then you can sleep at night. And also the chances of karma coming back to bite you years in the future, it goes away. So I think for. For this fellow who's going out and getting a burner account, just the very idea of having to live in that way isn't red flag. It's a red flag.

[A]

I agree. I agree. So that's, I think, a very.

[B]

I would say for you. You didn't say your name, but yeah, I would say take a really good look at this relationship because it sounds a little funky.

[A]

Yeah. And be really. Next time around, even this time, be very communicative and just be honest, because at the end of the day, you get a lot more being honest than telling little white lies and skirting it because it just comes back to you.

[B]

That's so true. Because you have. If you start telling lies, then you got to, like, write them down.

[A]

You got to cover them. You got to remember them.

[B]

What really happened. I don't remember. You know, it's just. It's crazy.

[A]

It's just like a spider web that you just get entangled in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So there you go. All right.

[E]

Hi, Lisa and Harry. I just want to say that I love your podcast. I think it's so cute, and I think you guys are doing such a great job. Kudos to you both.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

My question really just focuses on rumors. So I know that because both of you have been in the business for so long, there have been rumors on Lisa's end, on Harry's end, and I want to understand, what do you do about those rumors? Like, when you hear those rumors, how does it affect you? Does it affect your marriage? Do you just not play into them? Do you play into them?

[A]

Great question.

[E]

How do you guys actually work through that together? Do you guys check in together? Do you guys just laugh about. Would be great if you can talk a little bit about that.

[A]

Oh, I love this question.

[B]

No, that's a really good question.

[A]

What a great question.

[B]

But I wish I knew what the rumors were.

[A]

You know them. You are gay and you have affairs in Canada all the time with Patricia and somebody else. Those are. Those Are two big ones?

[B]

Are those. There aren't more. I mean, what about the dog thing?

[A]

Oh, that. You started that one. You started the dog one. Let's be honest. You started your own dog. We joked about it, and then we told Kathy Griffin at her dinner party, and then she talked about it on a podcast. We started the dog one. You. You did. You started it. So let's go back to. Let's go back to Kim Richards. Like. Like, why not? Because that's when it kind of ignited, when Kim Richards sat across from me and decided to accuse you of something.

[B]

And is that when she said, let's talk about the husband? Yeah, it wasn't. Let's not talk about the husband, which is what the name of the podcast is. It's let's. She said, let's talk about the husband.

[A]

Let's talk about what you don't want out there.

[B]

Let's talk about the husband. Yeah.

[A]

And so that's when it was thrown down, and that's when I basically flew across the table, and then I broke the wine glass. And so you. The way you reacted to it is. You laughed. You thought it was funny, right?

[B]

Yeah, because it is. It's hysterical. I mean, and. But look, I've been in the tabloids going way, way back to way, way.

[A]

Way, way before that.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, when. When.

[A]

What's your first rumor that you can remember of yourself? How about that? That's a good. We'll start there.

[B]

Well, a rumor, I mean, whatever. Have always been there. You know, that's. That's been since.

[A]

Well, you did a gay movie, so.

[B]

Movie. So of course that's going to be there. But, you know, I don't pay attention to them. I mean, there may be rumors out there, and. And, you know, water off a duck's back is how I deal with all that stuff. You know, I just, you know, if it'll get sticky if you react to it, if you don't react to it, just keep doing your life, then it goes away instantly. Know. But that's why I don't do social media. I don't look at comments. What's the point? Yeah, you know, what's the point of looking at. Because, hey, as far as reviews go, and I don't read reviews, and I've gotten. I've heard almost all good reviews in my life. Maybe I've gotten a few bad ones, but I don't read them nevertheless. But if you do get a bad one, you might get, you know, 30 good ones where they say you're Better than the best actor in the history of the world. But you get one bad one where it says, you know, he kind of messed up here, here and here, and you go, oh, that's all you think about, the bad one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So as a result, I don't look at him at all. But as far as the rumors go, I'm just going to let it always go off my back like water off.

[A]

You always have. You know, for me, in that moment, I was more mad at her. Because she would do that to you in that moment, because I knew what she was doing.

[B]

Well, you. I was so proud of you for protecting your husband.

[A]

So, yeah, I would never have known I would do that. But, you know, I had already had, you know, plenty of issues with her for four months. This was the. At that. Towards the end, this was three months in. So I was just mad. I was so mad that she would do that to you and that we would then have to deal with it. I mean, I didn't worry about it because I knew there was nothing true to it, but I knew she did it to do what she did, and that made me really mad.

[B]

Do you think she was produced to do that? Do you think that some producer came to her and said, why don't you bring up.

[A]

Really, I do. Because. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. When you do your interviews for shows like that, you do it for, like, the whole time you're filming and after. So for about 10 months. So if I did that show for a period of time, even the first year, after a while, you can start to figure out by answering questions and what they're asking you, like, what's happening, What. Okay, it's hard to break down, but this is what I'm going to say as you're getting to know me as a character on this show. The first year, okay, you're. I'm saying things, and I'm talking about how I feel. I knew that I said very strong things about my family. You and my family, like, hot button issues. If you listen to me for long enough, you'd know that if you. If anybody came after you or the girls, that would be, like, pushing a big button in me.

[B]

Oh, so they knew that was a soft spot for you?

[A]

Yes, I. That's my opinion, because I'd been talking. You're getting to know me. They're asking me questions. I think by that point, which was three months in, everybody knew my button to press.

[B]

Did you think the producers went to her and said, hey, when you guys are sitting down in the restaurant in Amsterdam, I want you to bring up her husband.

[A]

Well, I mean, I actually know that she has since come to me and said I was produced.

[B]

Oh. They made me do it. Really?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that. Of course.

[A]

I mean, whether that's true or not, but that's how she dealt with it. You know, when we made up, in a sense, she said that. So I can only take her at face value, but I can say that if you are a smart producer and you're producing this show and you've been listening to me for three months in my interviews, you'd be pretty stupid if you didn't have somebody come after me about the kids or. Or you.

[B]

Because they want, like, conflict. They want.

[A]

And look how beautifully it worked. It looked. Worked like a fricking charm.

[B]

Well, that's true. You did fall for that. You fell for it hook, line and.

[A]

Sinker in a hot second to me. I mean, looking back on it, I go, that's really good producing. Because you knew that that was my. Those are my buttons, Mama bear, about the kids and husband. Don't go near it. What did they do? They just went like this. I'm jet lagged. I'm exhausted. It's the end of the season. Boom.

[B]

Yeah. You've got a little cut and it's starting to bleed. And they take some lemon juice and just squeeze it right into the cut.

[A]

It happened the first five minutes we sat down. We hadn't even drank yet.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

So to me, if I look back on it and I can laugh about it, because it was quite emotional in the moment. It. It really was for everyone. I look back on it and I go, wow. Yeah, they found my button and they pushed it.

[B]

So if.

[A]

Bingo.

[B]

An answer to the question.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I let these rumors and shit fall off my back like water off a duck's back. I don't pay any attention to it. On the other hand, my wife. Here's a rumor like that, and she goes ballistic, wants to kill somebody.

[A]

Well, but only because I knew what she was throwing out into the universe, and I thought it was really reckless to even throw that out.

[B]

What if you had laughed?

[A]

I wish.

[B]

Really? Do you think laughing would have been a better response than trying to kill her? What? I'm just. Just curious.

[A]

Well, I wouldn't have made a very good housewife though, would I, if I just laughed? Think about it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Think about it. If I had laughed in her face, which would have been evolved. I Was not evolved at that point. And I became. I became a very good housewife because I wasn't evolved and I was reactionary.

[B]

So those kind of shows that evolved people don't make those shows, like, highly rated, I'm sorry to say, but they depend on personality disorders. They depend on, yeah, schizophrenia, like that.

[A]

I don't have schizophrenia. But I will say that if I had laughed in that moment, I would have been an evolved creature. And I don't think I would have been hired in the first place to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[B]

That's probably true. Would have been a very evolved response.

[A]

But wouldn't it have been great?

[B]

Would have been boring as shit.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I was so raring to go. All they needed to do was, like, kind of go like that to me, and I was just like, okay, well, so good producing Chris Cullen.

[B]

That worked out.

[A]

Cheers to that. Because it's iconic now, I mean, it's like.

[B]

So in answer to the question, yeah, we. Rumors will persist. We will get them for the rest.

[A]

Have there been any rumors about me? I don't know.

[B]

Oh, I don't do social media, so I don't know.

[A]

You know what? People. People think I'm crazy. So whether that's a rumor or not, my hair dresser the other day, Greg said, people always ask me, is she crazy? And he's like, no, she's really down to earth, and she's really nice and she's really, really. He goes. It's the first question out of everybody's mouth, is she.

[B]

Are you crazy?

[A]

Is she crazy? And I was like, oh, I thought they would say, is she a.

[B]

That's why I married you, because you're crazy. No.

[A]

Yeah, but I'm good crazy. Am I good crazy?

[B]

You're good crazy.

[A]

But what rumors have you heard about me other than like, oh, she's villain, she's nasty, she's a. She's crazy. I mean, I don't know if.

[B]

Just diva stuff, you know, there are rumors about you being a diva.

[A]

There are?

[B]

Yeah, sure. I mean.

[A]

Oh, I hope so, because I really am not a diva. Right.

[B]

You're not.

[A]

I'm not a diva. So there really are rumors about me being a diva. I mean, people.

[B]

People ask me, you know, and ask me, yeah, point blank, is she a diva?

[A]

No.

[B]

Who? You know, just people around. But I mean, nothing serious, but I wouldn't say that. It's in the press. These rumors. These are just people, you know, I.

[A]

Run into, they say, is your wife.

[B]

I really, you know, I love your wife, but she's like, tough, right? I mean, she's like a. I mean. So I go, no, not really.

[A]

I love that because I'm so not that. I kind of love that people think I am. Wow.

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean, I think that was the reputation you got from the show as being a little bit of a ball breaker. And no, she's not. She's little Lisa Rinna from Medford, Oregon.

[A]

God. But I kind of love that because I'm so not that. So, yeah, I'm good. Crazy. Not bad.

[B]

You got the clothes for it, though. You have diva clothes.

[A]

Do I?

[B]

You have a diva closet. Yeah, you could definitely. You could do the diva thing if you wanted to. There you go.

[A]

Got it. I could smell.

[B]

Okay, Eve, let's move on.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

Rinna. Harry, thanks for taking my call. This is exciting, so I'll just dive right into it. I've been dating a man for two and a half years. It's been a long distance relationship the entire time. It's been lovely. We've been able to make it work. For two and a half years. He's known I don't want kids, and unfortunately he does. Last year, he bought a house with the intention of me coming over and moving my two dogs, my two cats, my whole life, over to Ireland. And very recently, things aligned at work that I'd be able to leave my job, get a good sum of money from that job, and figure out what comes next. And so I made it clear with work that I did intend to leave and take that offer. And we've had the baby conversation off and on, but it really came to a head about two weeks ago when he said he does want them, and I said, I don't. And he's like, I don't think you should leave your job. Then we discussed two days later, and I thought we'd broken up. And he was like, we've never broken up. I just. I just don't know what to do. But I know I can't be without you. And he's like, I just need to come to terms with not having kids. And I feel like that's something very unfair for him. We are sort of in this purgatory of sorts where we don't know where we're going next. I feel like the answer is we let each other go. But at the same time, we've never had love like this, either of us. So I really don't know what to do. And I'm looking for advice.

[A]

Oh, Jesus.

[B]

Holy Moses. That's a long story.

[A]

That's a freaking hard one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I have pain in my stomach from that. I'm not kidding.

[B]

Oh, God. So I'm not sure what your name is, but I. Okay, so it's Sarah. Sarah.

[A]

Sarah.

[B]

So, Sarah, all right, you got two cats and two dogs. Now, Sarah, if you have two cats and two dogs, then you are definitely. There's sort of a mother thing going on there. No kids, but two cats and two dogs. That's a lot of stuff to take care of. It's almost. If you combine all that, it's almost like taking care of a kid. I'm not sure why you don't want to have kids, but my advice and to anybody who's in a relationship, regardless of what the situation is, is to take that relationship one moment at a time and not fix, like, what it's going to look like in the future, whether they're going to be kids or not kids or whether you're going to live here or there or whatever. You know, this sounds. It's a long distance relationship that's gone on for two and a half years. You've been doing something right to keep it together for that long.

[A]

Together for that long.

[B]

That person's in Ireland and you're in the United States is what it sounds like. Yeah, but, you know, I think any and all relationships need, in my opinion, to just take themselves one moment at a time. In other words, not try to figure out what the future looks like. Not try to figure out what next year looks like, what next week looks like. You just take it one day at a time. With everything in life, in my opinion, everything that life unfolds one moment at a time. And you can stay in the moment and not project that into the future. I don't want kids. Maybe, who knows? Life is weird. You could change your mind, Sarah. Like next year you could say, I really want kids. I mean, it's the never say never thing is, I think that's where we get into trouble.

[A]

Go for it. I don't have anything to say to that. I think you just answered that so beautifully. I mean, I had a stomach ache over that because that sounded really intense. And I think you just answered it beautifully.

[B]

Well, it sounds like they really love each other. That's the important thing is the connection that they have as two human beings who. Who are trying to navigate their life through this, you know, their lifetime in this. On this little planet that's floating around this rock and that's this rock floating around the sun and this Little tiny galaxy in the middle of nowhere. There's trillions of galaxies out there. You know, we're. But it. What we're here for is to enjoy our lives. And it sounds to me like you found a great partner and a great person that you can enjoy your life with. And all this other stuff is really just noise, you know?

[A]

Yeah. And, you know, maybe let. How about this? How about let the universe decide or let God or whatever you believe in decide if you're supposed to re procreate or not. Maybe don't make the decision.

[B]

Well, I mean, I don't know. It will reveal itself as you go along. If, you know, if you're truly in love and you and you and your partner have a real relationship that evolves, truthfully and honestly, then who knows what'll happen?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you might say a year from now, oh, my God, I love this man so much. I want to have his children.

[A]

Yeah. Because it is really fun to have kids. It really is. And if you have cats and dogs, not that they're like kids, two cats and two dogs.

[B]

It's a lot. That's a lot.

[A]

It's a lot.

[B]

Got any houseplants?

[A]

It's a lot of responsibility that you'd probably be fine with a kid. Well, yeah, like you're already set up, you know, I don't know. I think it's good advice.

[B]

I would put my love for my partner over any. Any idea about having kids or anything like that and just let it change.

[A]

Harry Hamlin, everyone. That's a really good answer. Okay, cheers.

[G]

Hi, Lisa and Harry. My name's Emma. I'm sending this note today from Sheffield in the uk, a big time fan of the Real Housewives. So I absolutely loved watching the show and seeing the girls obviously start modeling, which was a really cool thing. Now, you talk about it a little bit on the show, but when they were younger, was that discussed at all? Did you guys always like, oh, my gosh, yeah, our girls are going to get into modeling because again, they're so gorgeous, so natural, that type of thing? Or did it really just kind of play out like it did on the show, where the girls just were a bit intrigued and wanted to give it a go and that type of thing? If that wasn't the case, was there any other conversations about what the girls wanted to do in the future that you guys all had any other career aspirations? Anyway, loving the podcast. Have a great day.

[B]

Bye, Emma. That's such a nice question. So sweet.

[A]

I know where it started.

[B]

Well, I remember the Kids, you know, walking by, the kids watching TV, they're, they're, you know, in the playroom watching TV. This is like when they're 10, 11, 12 watching America's Next Tech, Next Top Model, I guess.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And they were obsessed by that.

[A]

That's where it all began, right? America's Next Top Model.

[B]

They were totally obsessed. And I'll never forget Amelia asking me. And she. She couldn't have been more than eight or nine.

[A]

I swear, she was maybe five even.

[B]

Could we do that? Is that something we could actually do? And I, I, we, Of course, we said we could do whatever you want. You know, we'll support you whenever what you want to do. And, and certainly they. They did it.

[A]

I'm telling you. It all started from that show that if you talk to Amelia now, she will say, I saw it, and I decided that is what I want to do. And she put her mind to it, and she just made it happen.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, she's been, I think, obsessed and like a Stinger missile on modeling since she was.

[A]

Since she saw that show. Harry.

[B]

She's like eight. Eight or nine years old. Yeah.

[A]

And she just decided, like, the thing that, I think the power that Amelia has, that is truly remarkable to witness is she doesn't second guess herself. She just goes. Because she's very smart, and her brain literally goes, okay, so it's like picking. Do I want an apple or do I want an orange? She goes, you know, I'm hungry. I'm gonna have an apple. So she goes, you know what? I see that show, and I want to do that, and I'm going to be a model, period. And she just programs herself to do.

[B]

That without saying, how does the apple come into this? I'm just curious.

[A]

Well, because it's like a choice. It's like, it's a strong choice. Do I want an apple? Do I want an orange? She goes, I'm going to have the apple. And she goes and gets it.

[B]

So every time she makes a choice of any kind, she's like a Stinger missile. She'll go for it.

[A]

She just does it without second guessing. And that's the beauty of her manifestation. She doesn't go, oh, gee, am I good enough? Oh, am I pretty enough? Oh, you know, can I. Whatever. She just goes, I'm gonna do that. I'm do that. And that is truly remarkable to watch.

[B]

That is her. Her superpower is. Yeah. Nothing will stand in her.

[A]

Nothing like when she was little. It's so fun to tell these stories because, for instance, if she wanted something, pick an age. I don't care if she's three, she's five. She would always get whatever she wanted, she wanted and set her mind to. Now there were times when she would throw a fit and finally we would be strong and be like, sorry. And she'd be screaming and yelling and crying and then she'd go like this. Oh, fine.

[B]

Oh, fine. That's right.

[A]

Oh, fine. And she'd walk away.

[B]

She'd be so stubborn, stubborn, stubborn, stubborn, stubborn. Till the last minute she'd go, oh, okay, whatever.

[A]

Oh fine. And she would turn on those tears like somebody had literally been hit by a car and she was crying her eyes out. And you would like, put your foot down or. I would.

[B]

I think she and I are very similar in this because, because we were talking on the way here about what I got my parents to give me for my 13th birthday and what Amelia got us to give her for her 13th birthday.

[A]

13Th birthday.

[B]

This didn't, I didn't occur to me until I was talking about this. We were driving down Sunset Boulevard on the way here today and we passed by where, where there was an old TV show back in the old, old, old called 77 Sunset Strip. And we passed by where the doorway to 77 Sunset Strip on the street. We drove by. Lisa, as we were driving, I said, you know, when I was 13, I said for my 13th birthday, I had to go to Dino's restaurant. That Dean Martin had a restaurant called Dino's right next to where 77.

[A]

Your grandparents would know about this, kids.

[B]

Or your great grandparents, your grandparents. Dean Martin had this restaurant and it was like he was a Rat Packer and it was like really cool. And I was 13 and it was like this 60s and it's like, mom, dad, I gotta go to Dino's for dinner. And Amelia did the same thing. Mom, dad, I have to go to the Eiffel tower for my 13th birthday. Now Dinos was across LA, we lived in Pasadena, so we just had to drive over to West Hollywood, you know, to take me to Dino's. We had to fly to Paris to take her to the Eiffel Tower.

[A]

Well, luckily we had a free trip for like, we had a free trip to Paris. Let's like, let's like walk it back. I had gotten QVC in Paris and Mark Locks flew us all. That's right, to Paris and put us up the peninsula in like a freaking two bedroom suite.

[B]

Was he the person who got us the reservation at the Lander Cast restaurant in the top of the Eiffel Tower.

[A]

I don't remember that part, but. So someone got us a reservation for our 13 year old to eat for her birthday at the Eiffel Tower.

[B]

She had heard that the food was so good. And she. And it was the Eiffel Tower. And it's.

[A]

She's 13.

[B]

She's 13 years old.

[A]

She.

[B]

She got it. She got us to take her to the Alanducast restaurant. Up like halfway up the Eiffel Tower.

[A]

The sun was coming in, remember at sunset, it was so gorgeous. So gorgeous.

[B]

And then there was all these like pigeons flying around. Because it's the Eiffel Tower, there are pigeons flying around. And so then the menu comes, right?

[A]

Well, you're halfway up.

[B]

We're halfway up the Eiffel Tower.

[A]

So no pigeons were flying around up there, but yeah, they were pigeons all over the place.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, that's where they live. They live. They fly around the tower.

[A]

That far. That far up.

[B]

Of course. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, well, I don't remember that part.

[B]

But anyway, I remember looking outside and seeing all these pigeons flying around. Then the menu comes and what's on the menu?

[A]

There was nothing to eat. I'm so sorry.

[B]

Was on the menu. Pigeon.

[A]

Pigeon and snails.

[B]

Pigeon and snails and maybe some Ve. So she's looking out at the birds flying around. She said, we're eating those for dinner tonight. And she ate nothing.

[A]

We ate bread. We ate bread and butter.

[B]

She ate bread and butter. It's the only thing she. And the bill was price fix where there were three of us. Three of the four of us.

[A]

Talala was there four of us.

[B]

Four of us for price fixed dinner.

[A]

How much was it? Do you remember?

[B]

It was thousands of dollars. And I'm the only person who ate anything.

[A]

We ate bread.

[B]

I had your order of escar Go. Her order. You guys just had bread and butter. It's all you ate.

[A]

We'll never forget it. Because there was nothing for us to eat. No, God bless. God bless all of it. But we didn't eat.

[B]

Well, you guys didn't eat. I've. I feast. I love.

[A]

You had snails, you had pigeon, you had. You know, I had everything. Stripe, gripe, whatever. I don't know what. It's tripe.

[B]

Oh, I forget what we ate at Dino's for my 13th birthday, but I probably would have asked for chateaubriand because that's what I did.

[A]

Right? That was fancy. Or surf and turf. Wasn't that expensive, like lobster and steak.

[B]

Yeah. I was hoping to see Ephraim Zimbalist Jr. From 77 Sunset Strip, but I didn't see him. But anyway, this going back to Amelia, she gets everything that she wants. So she wanted to become a model when she was 8, and she did it, and I think she wanted to become the world's top model.

[A]

And guess what? She's doing it. Yeah, and she's doing it. And Delilah, she wants to be a model, but she really wants to sing. Singing for Delilah is where her heart is, and so she is doing that. But she also, I think, enjoys modeling because, you know, the money's good and it's fun to express yourself that way. So she likes both, but her heart is a great model, and she's a beautiful singer. Amazing singer.

[B]

Well, her voice. Singing voice, she's always had this. She's been pitched since she was 2, and she's been singing since she was 2, and it's. She's got one of those voices that without it being trained, it's just magnificent.

[A]

Magnificent. So that's gonna happen for her, I believe. It's just a little bit. It's a longer road. Music is a very hard business. And, you know, we. We don't know anything about music, so to speak. Like, we know acting.

[B]

We're not in that world. No.

[A]

Kind of. No. Modeling a little bit, but not a whole lot. But I do, since I followed it my whole life. You know, I was such a fan of the supermodel since I was younger. I have a. I have a focus on it, so I can help them in that way. But singing, I don't really.

[B]

Well, for Amelia, I think it didn't hurt that our next door neighbor, where our cabin is, is Cindy Crawford, and she got to know Cindy Crawford when she was quite young.

[A]

I. I think that also showed her that, you know, you could be a.

[B]

Supermodel and be, like, a human. And be human.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I know.

[A]

No, Cindy's been really great with Amelia, you know, and. And talking to her and just, like, really helpful. Like, really mentor. A really good mentor for her, I think.

[B]

No, I think so, too. So, anyway, I hope that answers your question. We helped her as much as we could, but it was really her decision to become a model and the same thing with Delilah. And we encouraged them to do what they wanted to do, and we helped where we could. But it's not our world either. I mean, we don't know anybody in the modeling world, so they had to figure it out the way. Same way I figured out acting. Because no one in my life had anything to do with Hollywood. When I was growing up. So it's like I had to figure that out myself and she had to figure out modeling herself.

[A]

So did I. And I think that, you know, it's all about passion. It really comes down. I always say this to passion. And if you are passionate about something and you follow through with it, you'll get it. You just will. Somehow, some way, you'll get it.

[B]

She got it. And she's having fun too.

[A]

She sure is. Boy. Wow. Living the life.

[B]

And we are living vicariously.

[A]

It's fun.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay, Done. That's enough for this one.

[B]

I know. Is it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, then, hello.

[A]

Goodbye. Hello. Goodbye. See you soon.

[B]

Thanks so much. Peace out for tuning in one more time. But let's not talk about the husband.

[A]

Peace out. Woo. Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

That's right.

[B]

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[A]

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