Let's Not Talk About The Husband

Episode: Let's Talk About POLITICS! The Epstein Files, Donald Trump, & More

Hosts: Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin
Date: September 12, 2025

Brief Overview

Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin, celebrated Hollywood couple, take a candid, humorous, and occasionally sobering deep dive into the world of politics, centered on current headlines about the Epstein files, the Trump administration, media bias, and the broader trends in American democracy. They blend insightful speculation, personal anecdotes, and unfiltered discussion to examine corruption, manipulation, and threats to democratic institutions—while never losing their signature banter and authenticity.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Updates & Banter

• The episode starts with Lisa and Harry's trademark playful back-and-forth about their dog troubles, setting a relatable and lighthearted tone before diving into heavier topics. (00:26–08:04)
  • “We need the dog training... So is it like therapy that we need, like canine therapy?” – Harry (05:32)
• They touch on how talking together weekly has strengthened their 30-year relationship.

2. Transition to Current Affairs & Out-of-Balance World

• Conversation moves from personal anecdotes to a reflection on how "out of balance" the world feels lately.
  • Harry references the film "Koyaanisqatsi," meaning "life out of balance," as a lens for recent events. (08:11–08:35)
    • “There’s a tremendous amount of Kiwanisquotsy going on in the world.” – Harry (08:24)

3. The Epstein Files Scandal

Media Coverage & Political Manipulation

• Both express concern about the selective media coverage of the Epstein files and survivor testimonies, noting Fox News’ silence:

  • “I looked at CNN... MSNBC, they were showing it. And then I went to Fox and they were not showing it... Isn't it odd?” – Harry (11:43–12:00)
  • Lisa highlights media manipulation and the dangerous role of propaganda, drawing parallels to historical examples.

• Recalling the Capitol press conference with Epstein survivors, they discuss claims of military jets (possibly sent to distract from the survivors' statements) as circulated on social media, questioning official motives. (13:04–13:19)

Speculation on What’s Being Hidden

• Lisa and Harry speculate about the reasons for the secrecy around the files, discussing Trump's campaign promises to release them and what might be so damaging within (13:26–16:10):
  • “These kinds of scandals, oftentimes they rest on the money... follow the money.” – Harry (14:02)
  • They ponder the real source of Epstein’s wealth and suspect the trafficking operation is much larger than reported.

Survivor Voices and the Question of Justice

• Both hosts underscore the importance of centering the survivors, advocating for releasing files—at least to the people harmed so they can see what’s said about them:
  • “If the victims, if the survivors want it to come out, wouldn’t you want to do that for them so they could have some form of healing?” – Lisa (22:43)
  • They are shocked at the young ages (13–14) of many survivors, challenging misleading public narratives. (23:19–23:25)
• Ghislaine Maxwell’s recent claims of innocence and improved prison status are called out as "obvious quid pro quo." (44:32–44:50)

4. Trump, Authoritarianism, and the Climate of Fear

• Harry recounts how fear, intimidation, and leveraging governmental power for personal protection are hallmarks of the current administration (19:07–19:52).

  • “Most people would go, I don’t want the IRS to come after me... So I’m going to be quiet.” – Harry (19:19)

• They discuss tactics reminiscent of authoritarian regimes—using tax rules, criminal investigations, and threats to silence dissent (especially referencing Russia and Soviet Union tactics). (20:09–20:44)

On Trump’s Leadership, Empathy, and Values

• Lisa and Harry express disbelief at the administration’s apparent lack of empathy, especially given Trump’s having daughters (18:22–18:31).
  • “You would think that there would be some empathy there, but there does seem to be a lot of empathy in general in that administration.” – Harry (18:31)
• Lisa critiques the normalization of cruelty and lack of compassion.
  • “Compassion and empathy have become dirty words.” – Lisa (48:16–48:25)
• They discuss the chilling effect on public dissent and the dangers of a leader who says, “I can do whatever I want.” (31:37–31:42)

5. Erosion of Institutions & Project 2025

• Harry warns that Project 2025 is about dismantling checks and balances to move toward authoritarianism (28:24–29:07).
  • “The last thing we’ve got are the courts. And whether or not the courts ultimately hold up the rule of law remains to be seen.” – Harry (29:09)
• They highlight the increasingly critical role of the Supreme Court amid a weakening democracy.

6. Media, Misinformation, and the Danger of Losing Truth

• Lisa discusses the demise of local news and the rise of misinformation via TikTok and Instagram (35:07-36:41).
  • “People are going to TikTok and Instagram and, you know, there’s a lot of misinformation... That fear grows.” – Lisa (36:10)
• They lament the end of the Fairness Doctrine, leading to unbalanced, ideology-driven news. (51:41–51:55)
• Economic impacts like rising tariffs and inflation are discussed as everyday evidence of broader dysfunction. (41:24–42:26)

7. Personal Responsibility, Cultural Values, and Future Hopes

• Emphasize personal and civic responsibility; question how current events are shaping children's values and empathy. (46:15–48:25)
• Both underline the dangers of “no filter” honesty from those in power and its impact on social norms.

8. Hope, Karma, and Long-term Perspective

• End on a note of guarded optimism, with faith in "the good intentions of good people" eventually prevailing over cruelty and corruption. (50:19–50:28)
  • “I believe that the good intentions of good people in this country will ultimately win the day.” – Harry (50:19)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On media manipulation:
  “Isn’t that so surprising that a news channel could actually, like, manipulate the public?”
  – Lisa, 12:14

• On fear and authoritarianism:
  “He’s created this ring of fear around him that it’s quite possible he could get away with this one, too...”
  – Harry, 25:41

• On the lost values of empathy and compassion:
  “Compassion and empathy have become dirty words.”
  – Lisa, 48:25

• On karma and justice:
  “I have faith that the truth always prevails... you can never get away with it. After a while, the boogeyman’s gonna come for you.”
  – Lisa, 45:45

• On hope and closing optimism:
  “I’m an optimist, and I believe that the good intentions of good people in this country will ultimately win the day.”
  – Harry, 50:19

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening banter / dog talk – 00:26–08:04
• World out of balance; setting up political talk – 08:11–08:35
• Epstein files media coverage, jets story – 11:42–13:19
• Why are files hidden? Follow the money / scale of scandal – 13:26–15:45
• Will we learn the truth? Elon vs Trump – 15:46–17:14
• Empathy, survivors' needs, ages revealed – 22:43–23:25
• Ghislaine Maxwell, quid pro quo, and prison privileges – 44:32–44:50
• Trump, intimidation, and Project 2025 – 19:07–29:47
• Supreme Court’s role and risk of autocracy – 29:47–31:16
• Misinformation and decline of local news – 35:07–36:41
• Tariffs, inflation, and relatable impacts – 41:24–42:26
• End of Fairness Doctrine & media bias – 51:41–51:55
• Closing hope & optimism – 50:19–50:28

Final Thoughts

“Let’s Not Talk About The Husband” turns its lens from entertainment and marriage to the urgent threats facing American democracy and social trust in 2025. Lisa and Harry’s candor, wit, and willingness to ask uncomfortable questions make for an episode that’s as thought-provoking as it is entertaining, offering a necessary reminder of the need for compassion, vigilance, and belief in justice.

This summary is structured to provide a self-contained, engaging, and informative overview. Listeners and non-listeners alike will find it useful for understanding both the substance and the spirit of the episode.