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The following podcast is A Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.
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And I'm Harry Hamlin.
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And this is. Let's not talk about the husband.
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We've been together for over 30 years and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.
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Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell. And on this podcast, we're going to own it, baby.
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Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hi, everybody, and thank you one more time for checking us out at who wants to talk? No, who doesn't want to talk? No, let's not talk about the husband. Just wanted to get that right.
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Oh, my God. Hilarious.
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Well, it is what it is, darling.
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So you got a haircut today.
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I did. I got a haircut today, but only a half. Well, it took half the amount of time, you know. Okay. So, I mean, Jonathan Anson, I love him.
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We love him. One of the masters.
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He's been cutting my hair for 30 years. He's the only person who's ever figured it out.
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He really gives one of the greatest haircuts.
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Yeah. Ever. And. And he's a master. I mean, he's an artist.
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Jonathan Anton at the Sally Hirschberger Salon.
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So.
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So you, if you want to go see him, he's the nicest guy.
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And he'll also cut your hair. He's a genius. But. Yeah, but over 30 years of him cutting my hair, he's figured out how to do it just perfectly in four and a half hours.
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No one on this planet is going to believe that.
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No, it takes me.
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Like, what?
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Normally, if. If we do a normal Jonathan cut, he'll come over at 10 o' clock in the morning.
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Pretty remarkable.
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Like before 30, maybe four. 30. Sometimes four and a half hours. Yeah, sometimes. Today he did it in two hours because I had an appointment that I had to get to at 1. I said, Jonathan, you know, whatever you do, I got to be out of here at quarter to one. I got to be in my car, out of here, quarter one. Oh, no problem. That's not a problem. Nope, nobody. We can do that. No problem. I mean, we get to 12:30, right? And I still got at least an hour to go. Oh, and got 15. I said, you got 11 minutes to finish. He's like trying to get him, and he'll go in and if there's one hair, just one hair, I know he'll spend like 10 minutes trying to find the one hair and just miraculous. Cut it just right.
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And it's a great haircut, but I could tell when I First saw you, I was like, he didn't cut it as short as he normally does, because I don't think he has.
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He didn't have the time. No. He owes me two hours.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Two hours.
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I think you should be happy that you got out of there in two hours.
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Four and a half hours is normally what I have to put for a haircut. I gotta say. Okay. The day is shot completely.
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Well. But he gives you such a magnificent haircut. You don't have to get your haircut as often as most people.
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That's true. I only get it cut a couple times a year.
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Yeah. Like it lasts.
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Yeah. Because it grows out beautifully from this. It'll grow out.
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And I make you go. Because nobody can give you a haircut like that, really. It's just the way it has to be. So you just have to suck it up and do it.
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Yeah. Well, anyway, he did a great job today, so here we are. I got a new haircut. You got a new hat.
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Yeah. A new hat.
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Yeah. What does it say? Don't hustle, don't hustle.
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Don't hustle the hustler.
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The hustler.
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Don't hustle the hustler.
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Okay, so that's implying that you're a hustler, I guess. Right.
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I implied that myself. Do you not remember this saying from the show?
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Of course I remember the saying for the show. But, you know, normally we don't give ourselves nicknames and call ourselves different things. I mean, you're calling yourself a housewife.
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I wasn't really calling.
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I can call you a housewife.
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But in. In the housewife world of, you know, interviews. It came out of my mouth, and then it worked.
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That's such a pretty mouth. It is.
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It was a tagline, too. It was one of my.
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Was don't hustle A hustler was a tagline.
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It was my tagline. Oh, of the year. Yeah.
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For this last. The last time you did.
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But in the beginning. Somewhere in the beginning, it was something about, da, da, da, da, don't hustle the hustler. I can't even remember Mike.
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That's right. You guys would have to figure out your taglines. They would come to you and they'd say, okay, it's time to figure out your tagline.
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And they'd bring you, like, 20 of them, and they all.
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They're all terrible and really, really bad.
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They're all so bad that I just started to come up with my own.
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Yeah.
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I think one of my best ones was. I don't have to buy it because I already own it. It's a good one.
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Oh, would you like to hear your others?
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No, let's hear the other taglines.
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The secret to life. Dance like everyone is watching.
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See, I didn't like that one. They kind of forced me to do that one, but I did it anyway.
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In the game of life, it's Rinna Takes All.
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That was a good one.
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My lips are legendary and they will never gloss over the truth.
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That was okay. Not great.
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My advice to you, don't hustle the hustler.
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That's it. My advice to you, don't hustle the hustler.
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That was like season five, one of the best ones.
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You've heard a lot about me, but it's only true when it comes from my lips.
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That was season five. That was my first season.
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My lips were made for talking and that's just what they'll do.
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That was another good one. My lips were made for talking and that's just what they'll do. That was a great one.
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And the last one, I don't have to buy it because I already own it.
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I think that's my favorite.
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And that happens to be very true, because you just were saying to me yesterday that you've been going shopping in your closet and you already own it, Right? You don't have to go shopping because you already own it.
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Listen, at this point, and now I think you're finally understanding it. When I was on Melrose Place and I first came into money, now, remember, I grew up, shopping was our sport. Go back to that. In my family, shopping was a sport. Much like going to golf, going to bowl, going to watch a football game, we went shopping. So when I was on Melrose Place and I came into some money, for the first time in my life, I started to buy some things. And after you bought me the Alaia dress and that Versace, my fault.
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I created the monster.
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I'd like to put it on you so that you have to take a little responsibility.
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I mean, I'm very proud of my taste back then. I put you in some beautiful clothing and you looked fantastic. Little did I know I was creating fricking monster.
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You just were opening the window. It was already there. You just gave it a crack. You cracked it open and stuff.
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You cracked it open with Alaia.
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Just went whoosh right in the room. And so during that Melrose time, I bought quite a bit of Prada. Prada was, you know, new and fabulous to me, and I saved it all, of course. And recently you were in the garage and you opened up one of the cupboards and you were like, what is this stuff? Can we save it or we save it?
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I wanted to throw it away because it was in my camping.
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It was in your camping.
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In my camping closet with my camping stuff. Well, what the fuck is that? My camping closet.
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It turns out there were two really, three really great pairs of Prada pants that were from the 90s that I took to the dry cleaner, fixed up, and I can wear like I bought.
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So you don't have to buy any pants.
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I bought some really good stuff back.
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Then, and you got it still.
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I have a lot of good stuff.
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You don't have to buy anything.
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Sweaters. I.
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A lot of you already own it. That was the best tagline you've ever had. You don't have to buy anything because you already own it. I'm there with you 100%.
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Fashion changes four times a year. There are four.
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Which means that after a few years, everything comes back again. So you've got stuff that goes back 30 years, which means you're covered for every change that takes place over the next 30 years.
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Nice try, Harry. Nice try.
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It's true. Because it's all a revolving thing, and.
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You need new things. That's how the business works.
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What's new is old again. What's old is new again.
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I play with that. I have plenty of that.
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You've got enough stuff forever.
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You got to sprinkle in a few new things every now and again.
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Says who? Me. Oh.
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And consumerism, like the world will die if you don't have consumers.
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It is very true that the entire capitalist system in the United States is dependent upon you thinking that you need to buy something to feel better about yourself, because you don't feel good about charm. Only for the moment. For five minutes. For five minutes. The moment that you press the button and you buy the thing, you go, oh. A little dopamine goes into your brain. You go, oh, Oh, I feel better now. I just bought that pair of pants.
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Rather than like, going and get a hooker or some heroin. Yeah.
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You know, I just never made that connection that you. Maybe you. Instead of buying pants, you'd be going for a hooker or heroin.
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Yeah. Because all a dopamine receptor hit. So wouldn't you rather have me buy something than go, like, shoot heroin in my arm?
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It depends upon what you're buying. I mean, heroin's cheap, right? You can get heroin.
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It depends on. Once you become a heroin addict, though, you sell everything because you need Money. And then you start to have to sell.
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And you'll be a great heroin addict because you've got so much stuff to sell. I mean, you've got. You've got a whole, like, supermarket. You have an entire. You have Macy's in your closet. You do. You've got, you know, Bloomingdale's right there.
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He's not wrong. He's not wrong. Okay. But the good news is I can go back to it. I saved a lot of it, so I now am going back to it. Like Daniel Brown has said, my closet is sometimes better to pull shoes from than a showroom.
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I get it. I'm right there with Daniel Brown, 100%.
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I'm glad about that.
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Yeah. You don't ever have to shop again for the rest of your life. Seriously. You're done.
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I'm not gonna go with that at all. Because I like fashion, and sometimes I need a new pair of jeans or a new pair of shoes.
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You get really creative. And you. Because I know that you've got at least three or four hundred pairs of jeans. So you could figure out how to take those jeans and, like, take the seam, undo the seams. And, like, you. And you could make a whole new line. With the amount of denim that you have in our home, you could make an entire line of jeans.
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Listen, I just got rid of at least 20 pair. I gave them all to Lorena. Rather than taking them to sell somewhere, I just gave them to Lorena and.
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Said, no, she's got 20 pair of jeans. What the fuck am I going to do with these?
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I say give them to your daughter. Give them to whomever. Pass them along. I don't make her take them. I just say, if you want them, here they are.
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Yeah. And she'll go out and she'll sell them.
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Well, she can sell them.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to deal with it. So I feel like I'm being generous. And maybe I am sometimes. And maybe I'm lazy sometimes, too. I don't know.
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Which do you think is more appropriate, the laziness or the generosity?
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The generosity. I do. I think that I do come from a generous spirit.
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Okay.
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But I can be very selfish because I'm an only child. I can be totally selfish.
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Are only children selfish?
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Is that something they never had to share with anybody? So we don't know how to share necessarily. Necessarily. Because we were never really. We never really were taught because we didn't have to.
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And also, I was thinking about this today, you know, because we have two daughters who Are best friends right now.
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Right now.
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Seem to be going through a best friend moment. And I had a brother that I was never friends with my ever once. One. Never one point in my life. You were an only child, and you never had the opportunity to have.
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Yeah.
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To have a friend like that. But, you know, Amelia sent you a beautiful saying about how you're her best friend and stuff like that, and that's within the family. It's not often that siblings get along so well that they're their best friend forever or whatever. But you didn't grow up with a sibling, and I didn't grow up with a sibling, even though I had one.
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I have a half sister, so if anyone's going, oh, she has a sister.
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But you were never close.
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But I never lived with her. We never lived together.
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And that's the thing, is if you have somebody, either a friend or a family member that you can be as close to as you are with Amelia, it's, you know, that's an amazing gift to have that in your life. I don't think I have anybody without. Except you. That I know well enough in my life where I could say, you know, you're my best friend, and I can say whatever I need to say in front of you, and I'm going to be okay, you know, you're. You're not going to run for the hills by finding out some secret about me. Or maybe you will. I don't know. When you. I haven't said, you know, I've got fungus on my big toe.
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That I do know.
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And you're still sleeping with me.
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I have fungus on my big toe.
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Too, so maybe that's why.
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But my fungus is in a good place right now. I've got it way down. How about you?
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You can have fungus. Can be in a good place.
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Oh, yeah. I went to have my nails done the other day, and the nail lady said, oh, your nails look great. I hadn't seen her for a while. She said, oh, they're in really good shape. I was like, great.
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Okay, this is Linda.
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This was tan.
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Oh, Thanh.
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Thanh and Linda do my feet because I ingrowns. And if I have anybody else do them.
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Yeah, I've heard this story before.
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So anyway, anyway, Linda or Ton and Thanh said, oh, I hadn't seen her in a while. She was like, oh, my God, your toenails look great. I felt good about it because they. They were gnarly at a time.
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Well, it's one thing that we. We know that we. That we still love each other, even though we're. We're fungoid.
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Oh, that's what I was going to talk about. There have been some breakups over the last week that just are so sad to me because, you know, you get to a point in your marriage, we're at it right now, 28 years. You've been married.
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Well, long enough. And we've raised two kids, and the kids are gone, and we've got dogs, and we've got a bigger house than we need.
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It seems that, you know, some of our friends and some people we know at this point, they decide to divorce. They split. And I just read Lori and Mossimo. Lori Loughlin and Mossimo are separated, allegedly. And, you know, they had that whole college scandal issue. They both went to prison for a minute, and they didn't make.
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Both go to prison.
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They both went to prison.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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And they. It didn't. They weren't able to get through it. And then Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban.
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That's really happening.
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Yeah, that one is out in the press for sure.
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Well, that's too bad.
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And it's so sad because you're like, it's such a fine line. It could easily go south.
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Never understood why Nicole always needed to tower over her men. Well, she's tall, but she always towered over Tom, and she always towered over.
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Maybe that was a sex thing. They liked it.
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I don't know.
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Maybe it was like a thing because they liked it.
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Maybe, Maybe, maybe. He. Both of them said, I would really like you to be 6 inches taller than me when we go out tonight. It would really make me feel a lot better. When we're on the red carpet, I have to look up at you. I mean, I suppose. I mean, it could be a kinky thing that they had going on.
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I don't know.
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I don't know. I mean, I. I like Nicole. I met her before she became. I met her in Australia when. When she had just. She had just been hired to do.
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Dead Calm, so she hadn't even done.
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She hadn't done it yet. No. But Philip Noyce, who directed Dead Calm, introduced me to her and said, she's going to be a big star in America, so.
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Well, he was right.
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He was right. Yeah.
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Huge start.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't think anybody works as much as Nicole Kidman.
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No, she's, you know, she is a hustler.
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She also lost her mother recently, and I think, you know, it's very difficult, that period of grief when you lose your mother.
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I remember that you were very grief stricken when you lost your mother. I. I was not when I lost my mother, just because she and I never really got along that much. So. Yeah, well.
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Well, you know, we've been talking about it lately because, you know, I mean, in my therapy right now, I'm talking about, you know, my growing up and parenting and all kinds of things and. And you know, we all tend to, I think, have to self parent ourselves at some point. Of course, you know, because our parents only knew what they knew and certainly when we grew up. I mean, you know, if you talk about your mom and what your dad, what they went through, you know, they. It wasn't real easy for them to be present because they had a lot of substances in their body.
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They had substances and they also, you know, this is back before therapy was a thing. You know, they were, they were married in the.
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Well, no.
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Late 40s. Yeah. And you didn't go there. You know, and for example, if. If some, A candidate for president, if it was discovered that they had ever had therapy, immediately they were, you know, not a candidate.
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That's right.
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You know, you couldn't. You couldn't.
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Right. Is that still the case, do you think?
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Well, I mean, the people who are president now, you can do whatever the.
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You want, you know, they're not in therapy and never happened. Yes, I said it. Don't even know what it is.
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You can kill people. You can. Yeah, you can be totally corrupt. It doesn't matter anymore. So.
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Yeah. You whistled, didn't you, when your mom died?
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My brother. Yeah, my brother called me. I was up in Canada. I was washing dishes in the kitchen. It was after dinner, and he called me to say that she just passed away. And I. That's really too bad. He just kind of described the moment that he hung up. And then I went back to washing the dishes and I looked up and I was whistling oh, what a Beautiful Morning from Oklahoma as I was washing the dishes.
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That is sad.
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Yeah. When I realized I was whistling after I just found out that my mom died, I realized that there was probably some issues that I had to deal with. With that.
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You think?
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Yeah, probably so maybe I'll get around to dealing with him at some point.
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You're dealing with them.
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We'll see what happens.
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Yeah, I mean, you talked about it, so you deal with it if you're talking.
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I guess so. Yeah. Moving along.
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Yes.
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That got dark, didn't it?
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Well, I want to talk about a moment that just broke the Internet for the two of you. Halloween isn't the only October observance to acknowledge your 15th anniversary of your appearance on the Today show. Somebody tweeted about the time you were being interviewed by Kathie Lee Gifford and Hoda Kotbury while being robbed live on television. You were promoting your TV show as well as your new books. And right as the cameras went up, so did the red flag.
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Yeah, live tv.
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And people thought that we orchestrated that somehow to make. To make.
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It was the same people who said, we're in foreclosure and bankruptcy.
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Probably. Probably the same people. But so, yeah, we were standing backstage. We had walked downstairs. It's live. We're standing. We walked into the studio. We're standing backstage. And suddenly my phone began to vibrate, and I looked down, and it was adt.
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Now, normally, which is a security service if you're.
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It's a big security. It's all over the country. But a lot of people know adt. And. And I looked at. I go, I'm about to walk. They're about to call us on live. But it's adt.
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And you're like, I gotta take this.
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I gotta answer the call because we have stores and adt, we could be being robbed. And sure enough, I answer the phone, and the woman says, you know, we're getting an alarm from your store as we speak. It's being robbed right now. And so then they called us on and they said, you're up.
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And you were like, I'm so sorry.
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I had to walk on stage with the phone up to my ear, and.
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You'Re talking to them while I'm like, you know, doing a soft shoe.
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B
We got out there, and Hoda said, so you're on the phone. I said, yeah, we're getting robbed as we speak. And ADT Was supposed to have sent the. Called the police, and they didn't call the police, and. And it became a thing. And the head of adt, I guess, was watching the show. Like the CEO of ADT was watching the show that morning and saw me talking about the fact that adt, that the company should have done, had called the police, but didn't. So now, as a result of that, we have ADT Gold service for the rest of our lives. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. Because here's my question. Was that the second time the store was robbed?
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B
Third time.
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A
It was. It was the third.
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B
Third time.
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A
So just so the people know, we had a store called Belgrade in the Valley, in San Fernando Valley for 10 years, which is a long time to have a clothing business. And towards the end is when they started doing.
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B
We started to get robbed. Yeah. 2007.
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A
Well, the first time we were robbed, we had that Christmas window with the big, huge TV that Heidi Blair had done, like a video, and we had it playing in the window. And I remember we were in Mexico and we got the call that somebody had broken in, smashed the front window, and did they steal the tv? I don't remember.
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B
I don't remember. But I. I do know that. That we replaced the windows and then they got smashed again.
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A
That's right.
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B
And then we replaced them with unbreakable glass, so.
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A
That's right.
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B
You know, which. Which costs a fortune, but you could take. You could basically shoot a bazooka and it would repel the. The she. Yeah.
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A
Well, I think it was the third time we were robbed that I said, you know what? I think maybe the universe is trying to tell us something, and maybe it's time for us to be done with this clothing business. And that's when we decided to.
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B
Well, yeah, I mean, people stop shopping, too. That was part also, I think the reason. The reason we ended that business is because of the downturn of 2008, 9 and 10, which, you know, people stopped buying anything.
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A
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
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B
We went from doing $1200 a square foot to doing $20 a square foot overnight. I mean, it was.
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A
Yeah, it was a curve of learning. Learning curve. That was good for us, though, I think.
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B
I guess so. I mean. Yeah, I mean, I'll take that as a positive.
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A
I think it was, you know, we did it ourselves. We didn't.
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B
Well, we were a mom and pop most of the. As a matter of fact, all of the clothing stores and other retail shops that survived that time had backers, people who were willing to, you know, get stretch Them through that moment in terms of the economy. And we didn't have that because we were just mom and Pop. And it was like all of a sudden we were just writing checks every month to keep the store open. It's like, you can't do that.
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A
That was a rough moment. But anyway, that was the third. The third time was the charm.
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B
And it was so much. It was so funny that we got the call as we were going on live television and I had to take the call.
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A
I couldn't because we had been robbed twice already. So we were kind of like. I was on edge and gun shy when ADT would call.
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B
That's right.
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A
Yeah, it happened a lot.
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C
Do you want to talk about Lisa Loves Harry, the show that you were promoting at the time?
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A
Oh, right. Harry Loves Lisa, which we wanted it to be I Love Lisa because we really wanted to do somewhat of a send off of I Love Lucy, but it didn't really happen that way.
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B
Well, that's. There was a reason for that. I mean, we came up with the idea to do I Love Lisa and you know, basically leveraging some of the domestic challenges that we both have. We both have, certainly. But we wanted to leverage that and make a funny send up of reality tv of a reality TV show about a couple. And it was going to be called I Love Lisa and it was going to be a comedy. But it just so happened that the network that bought it was called TV Land and they were showing reruns of I Love Lucy and they came back and they said, I'm sorry, you can't call the show I Love Lisa because the fans will get confused. And so they changed.
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A
You're smarter than that, by the way.
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B
Yeah, it was ridiculous to say that. And we ended up calling it Harry Loves Lisa. And it was. The premise was horrible and it was like one season. It was like this sucked.
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A
It sucked. It was scripted.
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B
Yeah. It was nothing like what we wanted to do to begin with.
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A
Nothing. But I mean, it wasn't a horrible experience, but it wasn't a great. It wasn't what we wanted. And that happens in life. You know, you take these risks, you do these things and it just didn't. It didn't materialize.
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B
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Remember, no pain, no gain.
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A
All.
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B
There's all kinds of little aphorisms like that and. Yeah, but nothing ventured, nothing gained, I think is the big one because we are setting out on different ventures all the time. I mean, the next one is going to be this poop scoop thing, which, you know, it was Another episode where we talked about the pooper scooper opportunity. But we did see recently that there is a company out there you can call in LA and they'll come to your house and they'll scoop up the dog.
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A
Clean up all your dog.
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B
Yeah. And maybe cat, too. And maybe they'll get rid of rats. Who knows? And. But certainly I never thought of being able to hire a pooper scooper person.
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A
People that would come maybe daily and.
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B
Maybe, maybe Elon will make some robots, some pooper scooper robots and be able to get a, you know, an electric pooper scooper that looks like a humanoid and comes out every morning and first gets your coffee for you and you know, maybe lights your cigarette, maybe wipes your butt and then goes out and gets the. Gets the dog off the lawn. Yeah.
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A
I personally think it's quite humbling and grounding to be a poop scooper in your own home.
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B
You're good at it. By the way, I. Today I walked out. I'm not joking. I am not joking. Today you walk. Before we came down here to do this, you walked out on the lawn and you grabbed that pooper scooper and you were wearing sort of a long flowing robe thing this morning.
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A
That's my cashmere robe. Cashmere robe, by the way. Cashmere.
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B
So.
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A
So picture me, I'm in my cashmere.
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B
Robe and you've got your pooper scoopers. And the way you. The way the sweep of your hand as you went up and you brought that scoop. Pooper scooper down and you scooped up that poop. It was delightful. I mean, it was really.
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A
It was like, no idea. My skills have been, have, you know, come to this level.
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B
So fluid. I mean, if you had had that to music, it would have been an extraordinary moment because you were good at it, I gotta tell you.
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A
Glad to hear that. And wow. I had no idea. Well, I did have to move. You know, we have different size poop scoopers at the house and I ordered one and it just. It's so large that it's down. It's daunting.
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B
That was a bust for buffalo.
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A
It is literally. Okay, you guys.
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B
It is like it's a foot wide.
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A
This big, and then you've got the scoop thing and it's just a little too much for an everyday poop skull.
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B
I wonder what kind of dog that was made for, you know, the large one. Irish wolfhound maybe, or. I don't know, what's the biggest dog you can get is like a Saint Bernard or something.
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A
Like a great Dane or a saint.
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B
And then they have, like, five pounds of Newfoundlands. Whatever it is. That scooper is the biggest scooper I've ever seen. Yeah.
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A
So it makes me a slight bit nervous, so I move that down to another part.
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B
I gotta tell you, the scooper you're working with today is just perfect for you.
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A
It's the right one for me.
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B
Perfect scoop.
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A
That's why I have it there. Because, you know, your scoops have to be close by, because the problem was we only had one. And so what if you go down to the other part of. We have nice, big property. So you go down to the other part. You have to go back up and get that poop scoop. Take it all the way down. No, you have to have one there. And then I move the big one down to the, you know, past 40 down there.
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B
Well, whether you're doing it in the up near the house or down by the back 40, it's. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
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A
I'm so glad to hear that. Well, then we know that I have another level of work if I need to do that, and I could call that company and see if they needed another pooper scooper.
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B
Well, I mean, if you were to wear the right, you know, to go into your closet and find the right.
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A
Some of my gems, some of my Prada out there.
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B
So, Malaya, how streamlined would that be? Your pooper scooper, sweeping it up in the air, and then dad just put that scoop right up. That's. That's good.
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A
I'm sorry, you guys, that we go down these tangents and we can't get out, but that's just what happens. And hopefully you think it's funny because it's stupid beyond, but it's sort of funny. You got a real kick out of it because the picturing of me getting poop. And I'm good at it. Don't you love that? You love talking, but you are good at it.
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B
You're like. You're an expert.
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A
I like a clean lawn. I want to be able to go. Everyone has seen. Not everyone, but a lot of people have seen our backyard. They see our lawn. I've done lawn stories for years about when the lawn looks terrible. I've never done lawn poop stories, but clearly I could even gopher stories.
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B
A lot of gophers.
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A
A lot of gopher stories. Which, by the way, is still happening.
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B
I know there are three spots where the gophers are making an appearance, and I haven't been able to get them.
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A
No, it's Tricky situation.
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B
It's a tricky situation. But, you know, the gopher snakes are probably still out now. In the wintertime, the gopher snakes go dormant. That's when all the gophers come out, when they're here. Yeah.
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A
So I'm noticing that. But I don't deal with that. I only deal with the poop.
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B
Okay.
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A
And the bird feeder. You know, we have a bird bath that I need to have that filled all the time. That's something that I feel not right about. If it's empty. I went out there today. It was, you know, the water goes quick. I don't know why it does in that.
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B
And so it evaporates.
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A
It evaporates.
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B
The sun comes out and it gets. Well, because the sun is hot and it warms up the water and the water evaporates out of the.
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A
So I have to go fill it because my birds like to have a bird bath. I have birds out there. I'm thinking about getting a feeder too.
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B
So you see, the first person you said, I have birds out there.
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A
Well, I.
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B
These are your birds.
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A
I. I feel like they could be yours too. But I. In talking about them right now, the birds, we can call them the birds.
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B
Like my birds are the birds.
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A
Birds that live out there. They're woodpeckers. The black and white ones are.
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B
The woodpeckers go in the bird bath.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Oh, really?
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A
And they literally take a bath in there.
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B
They.
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A
They rely on it. So I feel like it needs to.
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B
Be full all the time because otherwise we'll have some really stinky woodpeckers.
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A
Well, I don't know. I just. Those are the things I take care of out there. That's about it.
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B
That's true. You do take care of the water poop. Yeah. I think that's probably a good place.
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A
Is that it? Yeah. Oh, my God, we did it. Go buy these hats. They're probably going to be on the Deer media website or something.
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B
I didn't bring my glasses today. So what does it say? Hustle the hustler.
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A
Hustler. And the other ones Own it. And we're working on bucket hats. So if you know of a good company that makes good quality bucket hats, call in, leave a voicemail and we'll get on it. Because we gotta have bucket hats. Right? Got to.
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B
From your lips to God's ear.
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A
That's right.
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B
We've got to have bucket hats because.
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A
People need to consume honey.
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B
Yeah. Because without consumption, the capitalism dies. The whole civilization goes away. Imagine if we were all like Buddhists and We didn't have desire for anything. The economy would shrivel up and we'd be, you know, living in grass huts again.
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A
So I feel it's my duty to save the world. My shopping is duty for me to save the world. So I feel good about that.
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B
You're saving civilization.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay. Thank you so much, everybody, for checking in. One more time, let's not talk about the husband.
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A
Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.
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B
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A
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B
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A
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B
And I'm HarryRhamlin on Instagram.
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A
That's right.
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B
So see you next week.
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A
Until then, let's not talk about the husband.
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