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If you've ever been laying awake at three in the morning replaying something you said literally months ago, this show is for you. I'm Karla, the host of Don't Think, a podcast that will not fix you, but it will make you laugh, make you feel seen, and hopefully give you a break from the chaos of your own brain. New episodes every Thursday. This is Don't Think. A break for your brain. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.
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And I'm Harry Hamlin.
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And this is let's Not Talk about the Husband.
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We've been together for over 30 years and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.
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Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell, and on this podcast, we're gonna own it, baby.
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Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Oh, welcome, everybody. Thanks for checking in. One more time to let's not Talk about the Husband. It's the Halloween episode.
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It's the Halloween episode. I love Halloween.
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What's your favorite scary movie?
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I think Night of Living Dead is by far the scariest of all scary movies.
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We are on the same page, darling, because that is my scariest movie too. Without question. Terrifying Night of the Living Dead, which was probably the first of all of the zombie movies.
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By far the scariest.
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Okay. And. And I have a great story about that. So you. But if you want to tell, tell. Tell me about your first time seeing it, what you felt.
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Oh, I. I watched it with a babysitter. I'll never forget. The babysitter showed it to me, and I've never been the same since. I probably was 6, 7. I don't even know how old it was. Terrifying. And to this day, I haven't watched it in a few years. But there's nothing scarier.
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That's true. So I was living in Berkeley. It was the summer of 1972, and I was the member of a guerrilla theater group in Berkeley called the People of Berkeley. Workshops and improvisational groups. It was street theater. Like total street theater. Right. It was called Pub Wig.
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What does that mean? Street theater.
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Street theater. Well, in other words, we had no home and we did performance art, you know?
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Okay. Like in San Francisco.
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Like in Berkeley. So our first production that we did in the summer, that summer was a. An all nude production of Peer Gynt. Peer Gynt, Exactly.
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I can see it coming out of your mouth.
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An all nude production of Ibsen's Peer Gynt.
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And why all nude?
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Well, why not? It was Berkeley. It was 1971 or 72. It's like, you know, why not be? You know? And we had motorcycles at one point. There's a bunch of trolls in that. And the trolls were all nude, riding around on motorcycles. And we did it in a church, in the foyer of a big church in Berkeley. And all these old women would come, these dowagers would come. Cause they wanted to see Peer Gynt, you know. Cause it was this classic Ibsen play. And they all would leave immediately. There would be nobody in the audience. By the time we got to the troll scene, which is where everyone was naked, nobody in the audience, zero. I mean, just did it for ourselves. But anyway, that's not why the Night of the Living Dead story is different. So the director came to us. We have a group. There were like nine or ten of us in this theater. Group came to us one day and he said, listen, okay, this is what we're going to do. This is our big show, okay? He said, I want you all to go out tonight and watch Night of the Living Dead at the midnight show at this theater. And that was our assignment. So we all go out and we watch this. I mean, the scariest movie I've ever seen. And I didn't sleep for days. He said, this is like a Wednesday night. We saw the movie. And he said, okay, on Saturday night, we're gonna dress up as the ghouls. We're gonna dress up as the dead. And we're gonna go to butcher shops and we're gonna get bones and livers and all kinds of innards wherever we can find. And we're gonna put makeup on to make us look dead. We're gonna tear our clothes and put blood coming out of. As soon as the doors open at 1:30 in the morning as the movie finishes, the people are going to come out and we're going to be waiting for them when they come out.
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That's terrible.
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I mean, it was. Okay, so there's like 10 of us. There's two station wagons full of kids, all who are made up to look like we're dead. And in our laps, we have livers and we have, you know, innards, and we have bones and anything we got from the butcher shop. And we pulled up outside the theater in the red zone at like 1:15, waiting for the movie to come out. And this cop car came up behind us, and we were in the red zone. The cop car stopped, put his lights on. The guy gets out and he comes around the car with a flashlight, and he's looking Inside to see who's in the car. And here are all these people sitting there with, like, innards. Innards, bones and blood and stuff like that. And. And the cops, did they, like. They didn't know what to do with us because who were these people? So the director got out and he'd taken mescaline. So he was like, stoned out of his mind. It's now 1:30 in the morning. And he tells the cops, he says to the cops, listen, this is just a street theater. We're not gonna hurt anybody. And the cops said, okay, as long as you follow the rules and you cross the street during a green light and you get out of the red zone, you haven't broken any laws. So sure enough, we do this. We get out of the cars, we park, we stand outside. And as soon as the doors open, these people walk out of the theater and they see us and we're pretending to be the ghouls. It was mayhem. It was a riot. A guy came up to me with his girlfriend. He knocked me out.
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No, Cold cocked me.
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Knocked me right on the ground. I mean, they went crazy. They went insane. It was like these people came out of this movie theater 100% traumatized.
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Of course they did.
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Imagine if you had come out of that movie theater the first time you saw it, and you saw. And you ran into the girl with the little spade. Because we had this girl with a little spade and they went crazy.
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Oh, that's cool.
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One of the greatest pieces of theater art I've ever done.
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Well, good for you.
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But I was knocked out anyway.
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That's just really mean.
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What?
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It's really mean that you guys did that.
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It was unforgettable. But anyway, that's my Night of the Living Dead story.
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I love Halloween. You love Halloween, clearly, because you'll pretty much get yourself knocked out by dressing up.
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Well. And we always got pumpkins and the kids always. I have pictures of them every year growing up with their hands going into the pumpkin to pull out all the seeds.
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You guys did that every single year? We've done it every year. Except for maybe last year, year before.
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I did one last year.
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Yeah, but I mean.
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Yeah. At the very last minute with them. No, they weren't around. They don't come around really that much at Halloween time anymore.
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It was so sweet. And in my family growing up, we always had Halloween and. And always dressed up. I think the first year, I was a daisy. When I was one, my mom made me a daisy. And I have this cute little suit on with It. She probably made it with like a hood with daisies all over it. So I was so.
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Sweetie costume.
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I'm so cute.
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It's so. Not a pirate daisy. A daisy.
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I'm a daisy.
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Not a princess. A daisy.
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I had daisies all over.
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Well, that was actually very creative because, you know, normally people would go with like a pirate girl or a witch. A witch or a fairy or something like that. But you were a daisy.
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I was daisy with daisies.
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That's actually quite cool.
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It's really cute. I'll find a picture. And then I remember being a witch, of course, with my long wig, I have a witch. And then. And then I can't remember what else I was. But then with the kids, like Delilah, the first year, she was like a little kitty, like a little leopard. Remember we went out to Malibu.
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Right, right. They used to have that Malibu living.
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And you go up and down the street.
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The kids, they always loved Halloween. I. My birthday is the day before Halloween.
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That is Right.
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So Halloween was never. I mean, it was always a little bit kind of an afterthought.
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Yeah.
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Because I'd always have like a birthday party on that night.
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Did you ever have like Halloween themed birthdays?
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Not really. Because it's the next day. I mean, it's.
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Well, you could have combined it, but then that's kind of a bummer.
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That was always a little weird. It was always a little diluted Halloween. Because my birthday was the day before.
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Do you have a favorite costume that you have ever.
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Well, yeah, I mean, I always. I always loved when we. We. Because one of the things Lisa and I do when we are not getting ourselves in trouble doing it is we.
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Well, yeah, we've.
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Yeah, we don't want to go there.
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Yeah, we don't want to go there. But yeah, we really go for it. We do really go for it when we do Hallo. And become a character, don't we?
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We totally go for it.
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Go for it. We try to make it exact.
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And what we normally do is we find a couple, like a Hollywood couple or something, famous couple or infamous couple, and we try to recreate them at their most iconic moment.
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Yeah.
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And we've been really good at doing that. And we did it with Andy Warhol.
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Yeah, it was great. Edie said you.
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Warhol.
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That was a good one.
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That was really.
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That was Lucy and Desi. We did. Do you remember that one? That was a great one. Sonny and Cher.
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Sonny and Cher. That was a really good one.
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We used to go to Casamigos Halloween parties, which Were.
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They're pretty awesome.
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Legendary. Off the charts legendary. And fat Elvis and Priscilla.
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That's right.
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Remember, you had your fat Elvis costume with the wig, and I was Priscilla. That was good. Here's the thing. I have now gotten to the point where I enjoy watching other people dress up than myself dressing up. Because I feel like I dress up daily in my life. I become characters now. I do this, you know, whole fashion thing and all the things that I do. I feel like that is my Halloween. So when Halloween rolls around, I've already gotten it out of my system. Because for the whole year I've been all these different people.
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Do you know what I mean? On Halloween, if you were just Lisa Rinna, that would be your costume.
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Well, it would work now because that seems to be what people dress up as. A lot of people.
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That's true. People dress up as you now.
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They do.
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Yeah. That's right.
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It's so funny and it's so great and I love it so much. I love to see all the pictures and all the videos that people send me. But as of the last couple of years, they've been dressing up as Lisa Rinna, the Eminem. That's become the big moment.
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Yeah, the Eminem kind of has resurfaced.
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After 15 years, 16 years, it became this thing on TikTok. And now people like to dress up as Lisa Rinna, Eminem for Halloween, it seems, and Lisa Rinna. So if you're gonna dress up as Lisa Rinna as a costume, you have to wear a leopard dress. You have to wear your hair shorts. You gotta get a wig, maybe some aviator glasses and have a drink in your hand. It's pretty fucking simple.
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Yeah.
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Guys do it, girls do it. Doesn't matter. Dogs do it. I've had the gamut. Cats have been me, little kids, okay? The funniest thing, you put a toddler as me with a wig. Leopard and a drink wig. Raquel Welch sells my wig. I don't make money off.
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It's called the Lisa Rinna.
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No, but it's my wig. It is. It looks just like my hair. So you go to Raquel Welch, you buy the wig. Easy. You get some leopard and you get some aviators. Done.
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Why don't we sell a Lisa Rinner wig? Why don't you sell a wig of you?
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You know, we've talked about it so many times. I think it would happen. I'm not sure that you make money selling wigs. Otherwise, why wouldn't it have happened? Why wouldn't I have sold Wigs? I don't know. I probably could sell the out of it.
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Anybody out there. Would anybody out there buy a Lisa Rinna wig? I'm just curious.
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I don't know. I know Raquel has one, so if you really want one, you can get one on Raquel Welch's website. Anyway, it's an easy costume. And people are starting to dress as you now. Also like me.
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Why would they dress as me?
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Well, because they go as a couple, so.
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Oh. Oh, that's.
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You go as me.
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But how can you be me? Oh, you wear glasses.
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You wear glasses.
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Okay, I guess so.
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You wear those glasses.
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By the way, after the cataract surgery, I probably won't have glasses anymore. It'd be the thing of the past.
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What's that gonna be like, I wonder?
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I don't know. A good friend of mine just this morning said he had cataract surgery on one eye. Said it changed his life. And he's having cataract surgery on another eye on Monday.
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Well, when are you gonna do it?
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Not until I'm finished filming this season.
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Well, then when you come back, you do it.
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I know. Yeah. There's a bell.
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To dress as you for Halloween, you just put on those glasses, and then you kind of have to make your hair like that, too. Let me think if I have a favorite. I have two favorites. When I dressed up as Erika Jane, that is probably my most iconic costume, I think, because we really did it.
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You did exactly like her, too.
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I will say we did it really well. I had, like, four different wigs piled on my head. We got the exact shirt, the exact moschino shirt that she wore to her DJing. I had a microphone. I had the boots. Like, I. It was. That was good. And then I show up at the Halloween party. She doesn't know that I've dressed as her. That was a great moment. And then my second favorite was J. Lo. When I dressed up as J.
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Lo was that dress with a flowing Versace dress.
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I thought that was pretty good.
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You know, I'm not. I'm not big on. I'm not a horror guy. I've never seen Friday the 13th. I've never seen Halloween or any of the iterations of either of those.
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They are so scary.
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After Night of the Living Dead, I kind of went, wow. I think I've had all the horror my body can take for the rest of its life.
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Well, and when you went out and dressed as ghouls and scared the shit out of those people.
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So horror is not really in my food chain. But I am doing Mayfair Witches right now. Anne Rice's Mayfair Witches. Witches, Horror, in a way. I mean, witches and intrigue and supernatural comings and goings. All of that is happening in the show.
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So you play a witch?
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No, no, I play the patriarch of a family of witches. But at the moment I have only immortality. I don't have any powers, but I do have immortality.
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Well, that's pretty good.
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I'd say. I would take immortality.
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That's pretty good.
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That's another question altogether. To talk about, you know, immortality and mortality and life and death and all that stuff.
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That's another episode because.
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Because there's a good friend of ours who has been working on trying to keep humans alive forever. Yeah, yeah. Who actually worked at Google trying to do that in their life sciences division. Trying to figure out a way to, you know, kind of avoid death. That's another story. I'd love to talk about it at some point. But that's also kind of a horror story as well. But anyway, so that's my, my relationship to horror is pretty thin now.
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No.
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And my friends Isaac and Jeffrey love horror. Watch it all the time. Can't get enough of it. It's a dopamine hit, isn't it?
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I guess so. It doesn't do anything for me anymore.
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I think it's a dopamine hit after.
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Another Living Dead that. That did it for me.
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Well, I'd like to do a horror movie. I haven't done a whole lot.
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Do you believe in ghosts? Do you believe in all that stuff?
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Yeah, I do.
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You do?
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Well, yes, I do. And of course, I was on Ghost Stories, remember?
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And I did too. I did Ghost stories as well.
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We both did it.
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We both did it.
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The truth of it is we had no money at the time. We were fucking broke and they came to us, remember? And you don't remember. I do.
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Tell me. Cause you couldn't shop for a while.
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Fuck you. No, it was not that. No one was working. And as actors, if we don't work, we don't get paid. And so it was one of those things that was like, well, I gotta do horror stories or not horror stories. I gotta do ghost stories. And then you were like, well, I guess I'll do it too.
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Well, we had good stories.
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We did have good stories.
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I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have a good story, but I.
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Don'T think normally we would have done. Let's be honest with the audience. I don't think we would have done celebrity ghost stories unless we were hard up. Don't mean to judge, but I like to keep it real. I'm keeping it real.
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Well, I'm gonna disagree.
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Well, maybe for you I was hard up.
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I have a ghost story. So if you have a good ghost story, that you don't have to make up. That's an actual thing that happened. Yeah, I mean, I, I'm, I gotta say I'm not that much of a believer in ghosts, but this story, this thing did happen. So I, you know, it is the thing that happened.
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Well, and I believed that we did have a ghost in our house growing up when the kids were little. Nancy, Nancy not there now.
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Well, Nancy did actually pass away in the house.
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I know.
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And it's kind of an interesting story because the way we found this, the way I found this house, I'd been looking at a house for two years, looking for houses for two years. I had a realtor that was taking me around and showing me everything with my ex wife, with Laura, and we saw nothing. We finally found a house that was okay. We put an offer on it, we was going to go, it was in escrow. I was going to close on a Thursday night. And on the weekend before it was going to close, I had a dream that it was not the right place to go to, not the right house to buy. And in my dream, the dream was get in your car and drive around where you want to live and see if you find something. And so I did that. I got in my car, I drove up to the Santa Monica mountains and Mulholland. I drove around and sure enough, there was this for sale sign at the end of this house. It was cul de sac and there was a guy pruning roses in the front. And I said, is this house for sale? Because I've never seen it before and I've been looking for two years. He said, yeah. I walk in and he says, walk around and you check it out. Just be careful of the poison oak. Poison oak? Why is there poison oak?
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Why is there poison oak at a house?
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I know, but. So I go in the backyard and sure enough, there was poison oak and no view whatsoever. It was just a place was a dump. And. But I got down on my hands and knees and I crawled underneath all this, these shrubs and stuff and there was this view of like the view to die for in la. I mean the most beautiful view possible. And it was all covered up with trees and vines. Anyway, so this house that we live in now was sold to me by these two guys, two gay guys who lived there. The guy I actually bought the house from had been married to Nancy, who died in the house. Nancy had lived, been renting the house from John Rate because Bonnie Raitt grew up in that house with her two brothers. And John Rate had Been renting it out to various people and rented it out to this one girl who wanted to buy it. As soon as John said the house was coming up for sale, she called her father up and said, dad, would you help me this house? He said, well, if you settle down, maybe get married, have a family, I'd be happy to buy the house for you. And she was lesbian, so having family and settling down, not really in her future at that point, but she really wanted this house. So she went to her best gay friend and she said, hey, would you marry me? You can come and live here with your lover in the one wing of the house, and you marry me, and maybe if you can impregnate me and we can have a kid, my dad will buy this house. Sure enough, all of those things happened. She married this guy. He moved in to the other side of the house, had a hair salon in one side of the house. She got pregnant. She had a kid. This is 1980.
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Wow.
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When this happened, 81. Nobody knew about this scourge that was out there in the gay world.
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Aids.
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Aids.
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Right at that moment, both of these.
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Guys were infected with it without her knowing it. So when she was impregnated by one of them, the guy she married, she contracted HIV and then ultimately died of AIDS after giving birth to her daughter. So I came to the house when the daughter was three years old, and she had already died in the house. Nancy had of aids. So that's the ghost that we felt was walking around in the house was Nancy. When the kids. But why did Nancy leave?
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Because they grew up.
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So she was just there to harass the children?
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No, she was there in the beginning to watch over them and to talk to them. And she wanted to be around her child, I think. And so she was always around. Like, I'll never forget Amelia in her room, in her crib, looking up, like, laughing. And it wasn't at her mobile that was going around. It was.
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She was. Oh, Nancy was there in the room.
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Nancy was there, Yes. I always thought that. I always thought it. Nancy was there because she loved the kids. And then once they got older, she left.
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Oh, well, that. Really. When the kids heard that you had told this story, they heard somebody said, listen to the story about your mom. And the ghost that lives in your house.
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Freaked him out.
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I'll never forget. The kids came, said, dad, is there really a ghost living in the house? I. Mom said there was a ghost living here on this show on the. On the. On the tv.
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A
And we didn't sleep for like four months after that because they were, were so fucking freaked out. I really fucked them up with that. I did. And they were so scared. And remember, both of them have ghost stories. And there's the top hat man that.
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B
Comes and the tooth fairy who comes too. The top hat man. Who's the top hat man?
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A
Oh, the top hat man's the guy that wears the top hat that Amelia will see in the corner of her room.
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B
How often does she see the top hat man?
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A
Well, often enough that she still gets scared at the house every once in a while. First real story. Because she sees the top hat man.
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B
Well, I'll never forget when she lost a tooth.
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A
Oh, they were so scared of the tooth fairy.
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B
Terrified. The tooth fairy.
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A
Whose kids are scared of the tooth fairy?
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B
I know.
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A
Whose kids are scared. Remember, they were terrified. Terrified of the tooth fairy.
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B
Oh my God. I can't. My tooth can't come out. Because the tooth fairy will come and it's a tooth. Oh my God again.
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A
Oh, no. And remember, we had to write a note. We'd have him write a note and tell the tooth fairy, like not to come but to leave it like outside.
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B
That's right, we write a note.
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A
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B
So yeah, we did that show, what was it called?
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A
Called the show the Ghost Celebrity Ghost Stories.
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B
Celebrity Ghost Stories. Back in, in the early 80s I did this movie called Space where I played an astronaut and we shot down in San Diego. We stayed at the Coronado Hotel because we shot at Miramar a little bit, the naval base down there. I played an astronaut.
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A
It's supposed to be haunted, right?
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B
Well, Hotel del Coronado has a haunted room, right? And everybody's always heard about this but I'd heard about it but I didn't know like what, what room, what was all about, whatever. But my, my soon to be wife who was also soon to be my ex wife Laura was, she was working on Falcon Crest while I was shooting this movie down in, in Coronado and she was going to come down and visit me for when she had some time off. And I thought well, this is a perfect time for me to ask her to marry me. And so I had called my jeweler in New York and I said please make a, a ring, an engagement ring. She's coming down here next week and on Thursday night I have rented a room in the hotel and I've, I've hired some violinists to play some pachelbel and I'm gonna ask my fiance to marry me. And he said okay, no problem, I'll have the ring to you by Wednesday. I'll FedEx it on Wednesday.
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A
All right?
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B
Because I said is that okay to FedEx a diamond ring? And he goes yeah, you know, we do it all the time. I said, yeah, but what happens if that never got lost? Yeah, it's perfect. I said, okay, the ring will be there Wednesday, you do the deed on Thursday and you'll live happily ever after. Wednesday comes along, she comes down to visit me and the ring doesn't arrive. And I call the guy up and he gives me the tracking number. He says, well it'll be there tomorrow for sure. The next day comes and no ring comes. I call the guy up, I say fedex tracking number. Well, you know they've lost it. It's never happened before. Can't find your ring. So I have to cancel the Violinist. I canceled the dinner. I canceled the whole nine yard.
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A
That should have been your first red flag. Harry, can I just say that as we're having this convo, did that just ring a bell for you at all or did you just.
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B
Of course. But you know, I was not thinking with my brain in those days. There was another organ in my body that I was thinking with like, if.
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A
That wasn't like a red flag for you.
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B
Okay, blame me all you want. That's okay. I'll take the blame. Okay.
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A
I was curious if, if that didn't just like kind of go h. Well, no, it didn't.
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B
It didn't because I, I, I was, I, I wanted to get married. So, no, I just, I thought, well, the ring will, will show up, right? What, what I didn't know is that my ex wife had gone to somebody at the front desk and paid them some money to find out what the room was that was haunted and why the room was haunted. And she paid somebody 100 bucks and they told her the story. I forget the room number, but she rented that room on Thursday night and I didn't know that she had rented it. As soon as she got there, she rented the room, but not without telling me. And so instead of having our dinner and inviting her to marry me, we went and spent the night in this room. And we got the story.
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A
Red flag number two.
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B
We got the story from the person behind the desk that a woman who lived in San Luis Obispo had come down to Miramar to marry a sailor who was her boyfriend. And a big wedding was planned at the Hotel Del Coronado on a certain day. And she came down from San Luis Obispo and he never showed up. He didn't show up at the altar. Left her hanging there, Right? And she went up into this room and found herself in the closet.
- [30:37]
A
Oh, God.
- [30:37]
B
Yeah. And so that's why the room was haunted because apparently that woman from San Luis Obispo would be seen walking the halls. You know, the ring doesn't show up. It doesn't show up on Friday. And Now I'm calling FedEx about every 10 minutes trying to find out where the fuck this ring is.
- [30:53]
A
Are you still in this room? The haunted room?
- [30:55]
B
No, we've left the haunted room.
- [30:56]
A
Oh, you spent the night in there?
- [30:58]
B
So, yeah, we stayed in the room that night. And Blair Brown was also my co star in space.
- [31:03]
A
Oh, I like her.
- [31:04]
B
And Blair Brown came up to the room room with us and we had a bottle of champagne and we talked about ghosts and we Talked about the woman who was, like, going through the halls at night, floating around. The woman who had been left by her husband, who left her standing at the altar. Anyway, it was Blair Brown. And she finally said, guys, we can't stay in this room all night. We'll end up being, like, killed by the ghosts.
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A
I wouldn't have been able to do that either.
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B
But the ring never came. So now it's Saturday, and I'm on the phone every 15 minutes, calling.
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A
But I thought it was lost.
- [31:37]
B
The ring is lost. The ring is nobody.
- [31:39]
A
We're trying to find it.
- [31:40]
B
Well, I'm calling up FedEx to see if. Has FedEx found the ring? Okay, where is it? So. But I'm having to go and find a payphone every 15 minutes.
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A
Oh, right, because there are no cell phones.
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B
There's no cell phones then. And in our room. I didn't want to use the phone in the room because I didn't want her to know that I was calling about an engagement ring that had been lost. So I had to do the whole thing in secret, right? I was. I was running off every few minutes to make phone calls. And she sees me running off, and she follows me, and she sees me getting on a painful payphone, right? And so we go to a jazz concert that night. And she's already seen me run off to these payphones a couple of times. And we're in the middle of the jazz concert on Saturday night, and I said, excuse me, and I went down and I went to. I found a payphone.
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A
Do it again.
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B
She followed me down, right? And she catches me on the payphone. I'm talking to FedEx, but she doesn't know that. She thinks I'm talking to my lover. She totally flips out, right? Has a huge fight with me, throws at me, gets in her car, goes home, takes all of her stuff out of my house and moves out.
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A
No.
- [32:43]
B
Yeah. It's over. Because I'm.
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A
I would say that's red flag number three in a very, very big way.
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B
Well, there were a few more red flags after that.
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A
Oh, my God.
- [32:53]
B
So she. She goes home, she takes all her shit. She. It's done. She's over with me. She's completely done.
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A
Like, moves out, moves out.
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B
I'm stuck shooting Dan, Hotel del Coronado. I have not told her that. Anything about the ring because I still want to pop the question, get this ring.
- [33:08]
A
You do? Even after she's moved out?
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B
Well, I mean, it wasn't her fault, right? She thought that I. I was trying.
- [33:15]
A
To rationalize didn't you think maybe she was crazy?
- [33:19]
B
Well, look, that's another story. And. And that's probably the reason why I'm not. I'm sitting here with you.
- [33:24]
A
I mean, you're still gonna. You're still gonna ask this girl to marry you after she's flipped out over thinking that you're having an affair because you're going to.
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B
She has positive qualities.
- [33:33]
A
I mean, I'm just kind of playing wife number three, devil's advocate, you know what I mean? Like, sitting here listening to your marriage stories. I gotta go. Harry. What the.
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B
Okay, well, you know, she was cute. Can I tell you?
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A
Well, I mean, you gotta be pretty. She must have been real cute.
- [33:53]
B
We were young, we were in love. It was, you know, it was a mistake. But.
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A
Okay, fine, keep going.
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B
So she goes home, she moves out of the house. It's over. She's moved on. And I'm sitting there all alone in Coronado and I'm freaking out. And I get this call from FedEx in the room. We found the ring. The ring had been lost and kept in the FedEx office in San Luis Obispo.
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A
No way.
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B
Yes. That's where they found it.
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A
Shut up. Where that woman was.
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B
Where the woman had been from whose husband ditched her. Which is why she. And she must have been so angry that we were going to get married, that I was going to have this relationship that was going to sort of work out, that she fucked it up from inside her closet where she lives in that room.
- [34:45]
A
So she had the ring sent to.
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B
San Luis, she had the ring diverted to San Luis Obispo and our relationship blown into smithereens because she couldn't handle the fact that another couple was staying in that room who was going to get married. I guess that's my ghost story. And, you know, I mean, I still don't really believe in ghosts, but that did happen.
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A
And did you believe it was her at the time? Kind of.
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B
What do you think?
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A
I think it was a big fat sign for you not to get married. Well, if I may say.
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B
Yeah, but it all led to you. I mean, all the mistakes that I've made led to you. And so here we are, and I get to take you home at night.
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A
Everything has to happen.
- [35:25]
B
And last night you were saying, sleeping so soundly. Look. And you were so beautiful.
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A
Was I sleep?
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B
And I just looked at you for a while.
- [35:30]
A
My God. Did you really?
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B
I did. Yeah, I did.
- [35:34]
A
That's kind of creepy but sweet at the same time. You were, like, watching me sleep.
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B
Well, I couldn't go to sleep. And you were so peaceful and serene.
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A
I slept.
- [35:43]
B
Sleeping like a baby last night.
- [35:44]
A
Well, last night I don't know what it was. It was like 9 o'. Clock. I was out.
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B
I know.
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A
Cold.
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B
I finally went out about 3:30.
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A
I know you're having sleep problems. If anyone out there. Okay, I'm gonna put it out there. If anyone is a sleep expert. We gotta have a sleep expert. Come on here. Harry needs a sleep expert. We need somebody who deals in sleep only. We have to. You have to sit with a sleep expert. You cannot go to sleep. You're having a really hard time.
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B
I'm about to use. I'm gonna go to the ball peen hammer technique.
- [36:14]
A
No, we need an expert who deals in sleep.
- [36:17]
B
You don't think a ball peen hammer. Just like a few good.
- [36:21]
A
You know, like I don't know if your judgment's that good. So if you know of a good sleep expert or somebody that can help Harry sleep. Because Harry has issues.
- [36:30]
B
Ever since I saw Night of the Living Dead.
- [36:32]
A
No, it's not necessarily that, but maybe so we gotta get Harry to sleep. Sleeping pills are not great for you. They're not great for anybody. But they're not great for you. And you can't sleep. And we need to figure it out. And I really want you to go to like a sleep clinic to where they do like a whole thing. They put things all over your head and they figure out what is your issue. We have to do it.
- [36:56]
B
That's when they figure that out. While you're sleeping. The problem for me is going to sleep. I tried hypnosis.
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A
How do you stay asleep? There's a real issue going on here. Poor guy. So we're gonna either have a sleep expert. Come on. Or we're just gonna send you to a sleep expert and figure it out. Cause we need to fix this.
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B
I'm leaving that up to you. Figure out my sleep problem.
- [37:16]
A
We need to fix this. Because the truth is you used alcohol to sleep.
- [37:20]
B
It looked like a charm. Yeah, you did a couple of drinks.
- [37:24]
A
And now that you're not drinking, you can't use that. So you have a little bit of a conundrum. And when there's a conundrum, I like to figure out how to fix it.
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B
Then this is a perfect wifely thing for you.
- [37:35]
A
I just did it like nationwide. So you're gonna have. Okay, here's the thing. I want a voicemail and I want people that have sleep issues. You have sleep experts, whatever. Call in, tell us what to do. I need a really good sleep doctor. Or if you guys have special things that you do, we're gonna do a whole episode on it.
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B
Okay.
- [37:57]
A
We gotta figure it out.
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B
I'm all in.
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A
Okay.
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B
All in. Yeah.
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A
That's your biggest issue, I would say, right now. But you can sleep during the day. You can take a nap that quick. So something terrifies you at night where you're like. And you get into your head and once you're in your head like, oh, my God, I'm not going to go to sleep. Then you psych yourself out.
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B
Same thing happened to our daughter.
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A
I know. Recently.
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B
Yeah. So, I mean, it runs in the family.
- [38:23]
A
Lots of people are going to leave voicemails now on our voicemail.
- [38:28]
B
So what we're hoping then is that you talk about the husband. Because we need sleep stuff.
- [38:34]
A
Yeah.
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B
But thank you. Thank you for checking in one more time to. Let's not talk about me, the husband.
- [38:42]
A
Oh, brother. Woo. Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.
- [38:52]
B
And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss anything.
- [38:55]
A
Yeah. And if you liked what you heard.
- [38:56]
B
Consider leaving us a rating or review. And make sure to tell all your friends too. I mean, like, everyone you know and their mother.
- [39:03]
A
If you have a question for us or you need advice, God help you. Leave a voicemail using the link in our show notes. We might just answer your question in a future episode. Now you can find us on social media, Lisarina on Instagram, and then I'm sarinaofficial on TikTok.
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B
And I'm harryrhamlin on Instagram.
- [39:26]
A
That's right.
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B
So see you next week.
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A
Until then, let's not talk about the husband. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.