Our Wellness Secrets Revealed: The Skincare, Fitness & Nutrition Hacks Keeping Us Young

Summary

Let's Not Talk About The Husband

Episode: "Our Wellness Secrets Revealed: The Skincare, Fitness & Nutrition Hacks Keeping Us Young"

Hosts: Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin
Date: August 22, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Overview

In this candid, amusing, and deeply personal episode, Hollywood couple Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin pull back the curtain on their daily wellness routines, revealing their approaches to skincare, fitness, and nutrition. The conversation showcases their playful dynamic and philosophical differences: Lisa is a devotee of products and protocols, while Harry is proudly minimalist, relying on basic routines and a strong belief in the body’s natural intelligence. The couple trade stories about their upbringings, eating habits (and vices), generational quirks, and the keys to aging well in and out of Hollywood.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. A Battle of the Bathroom (00:40–03:43)

• Product Takeover: Lisa reflects on her overflowing collection of beauty products, contrasting it with Harry's modest stash.
  • "Your products are growing like a fungus all across the bathroom." — Harry, 00:59
• Harry's Perspective: He’s aware but not bothered, since Lisa “looks fabulous” (01:31).
• Minimalist vs. Maximalist: Harry marvels at how Lisa manages the chaos and asserts: “You’re definitely a hoarder. And it looks neat the way this stuff is organized.” (02:09)

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2. Skincare: Opposites Attract (03:44–08:10)

• Lisa’s Routine: Lisa shares how she transitioned Harry from baby oil to Dr. Perricone skincare 15 years ago. Her own approach is expansive, experimental, and product-heavy.
• Harry’s Philosophy: He hasn’t washed his face in “40 years” (04:27) and fundamentally believes in the body’s self-regulation.
  • “The human body is the greatest machine the universe has ever created.” — Harry, 04:50
• Addictions & Habits: Lisa admits to being “addicted to everything” — especially lip gloss. Harry abstains, believing once you start, you’ll never stop (06:01).
• Notable Quote:
  • “I’m addicted to absolutely everything, and I use absolutely everything. Harry uses nothing.” — Lisa, 06:13

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3. Food Philosophy: Processed Snacks vs. Clean Eating (07:01–09:00)

• Diet Differences: Harry avoids junk food and snacks (aside from his beloved Ralph’s oatmeal cookies), while Lisa loves her “snacks, her chips, her things” and grew up on processed treats.
• Cookie Showdown:
  • "One cookie for $5.99 at Erewhon, 12 cookies for $3.99 at Ralph's... the ones at Erewhon are shitty and don't taste good." — Harry, 07:27
• Perspective Shift: Lisa has become healthier over time, yet still holds a soft spot for processed foods, calling herself “the most unhealthy human.”

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4. Vitamins, Supplements & Peptides (09:28–12:17)

• Lisa’s Cabinet: Lisa is “big on vitamins and supplements,” taking a daily mix of adrenal support, B vitamins, multivitamin, D3, bone-building algae calcium, magnesium, and peptides.
• Harry’s Minimalism: “I haven't taken a vitamin pill since... in my memory...” (10:06)
• Lisa on Peptides: She takes NAD in the morning for metabolism, and a nightly supplement that “stimulates your human growth hormone.”
• Debate: Does any of this work? Lisa firmly believes “there is [a difference],” (12:04) while Harry is a skeptic.
• Energy Solution: Lisa teases, “Maybe if you took your peptides and vitamins, you wouldn’t have to take your Red Bull.” (12:38)

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5. Skincare Deep Dive: Lisa’s Miracle Products (15:41–22:37)

• Barbara Sturm: Lisa credits Dr. Barbara Sturm’s products for solving her lifelong acne and melasma issues (16:28), calling Sturm “one of the nicest human beings on the planet... such a hardworking businesswoman” (17:59).
• New Trends: Lisa explains exosomes (for anti-aging), peptides, and the ongoing importance of Retin-A and sunscreen in her daily routine (19:54–20:14).
• Expert Advice: Lisa shouts out esthetician Renee Rouleau (21:00) for crucial skincare tips, including “put sunscreen on when you wake up in the morning.”
• Lifespan Scenario: Harry jokes about Lisa’s fate without her products, referencing Dorian Gray: “You’d probably... turn gray... wrinkle up and look old.” (22:23)
• Generational Reflection: The couple discuss genetics, Lisa’s mother’s facelift, and how both their parents stayed youthful and active (23:13–24:13).

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6. Fitness & Daily Routines (26:07–49:01)

Harry’s Wellness Regimen (26:11–30:36)

• Exercise: Harry hikes “just under three miles” daily and lifts weights thrice weekly.

• Intermittent Fasting: He’s been fasting and skipping breakfast for 10 years, with a first meal around 2pm (26:49).

• Sleep, Nutrition & Relationships: Inspired by Peter Attia’s Outlive, he prioritizes exercise, sleep, nutrition, and positive relationships (29:01–30:36).

  “If you've got a good set of friends and a good spouse, good relationship, family situation... you eat well, you sleep well and you get lots of exercise, you live forever.” — Harry, 30:32

Lisa’s Fitness Story (39:00–49:01)

• Workout History: Lisa’s done every fitness protocol under the sun — from Jazzercise, aerobics, infomercial dance DVDs, Billy Blanks, to pole dancing and Pilates (41:08–43:11).
• Yoga as Foundation: She’s practiced yoga for 27 years, originally with Steve Ross, and credits it (along with stretching generally) as key to staying youthful and limber.
• Consistency: The real secret is simply showing up and staying consistent.
  • “I think the key to youth is stretching. Gotta keep your body limber.” — Lisa, 46:58
• Stretching Advocacy: Lisa demonstrates stretches live and asserts, “Everything you can do to stretch your body is the key to youth, I think.” (50:02)

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7. Family Quirks & The Mysterious Sneezing Habit (33:23–38:56)

• Quirky Genetics: Lisa, her dad, and siblings sneeze 8–14 times in a row after eating “rich” foods. Harry speculates it’s environmental, not genetic, and Lisa suspects GMOs.
• Seeking Answers: Lisa asks listeners with the same issue to call in with their stories (35:07).
• COVID Anecdote: Lisa recounts the challenges of sneezing in public during the pandemic (35:24).
• Paris Exception: She doesn’t sneeze much in Europe, reinforcing her GMO theory (37:25).

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8. Attitude, Mindset & Final Insights (48:49–52:19)

• Positive Mindset: Lisa emphasizes the power of joy and positivity in staying youthful.
  • “I would say [I’m] a very positive, mindful, joyous person, and I think that also helps me.” — Lisa, 48:53
• Why Look Good: For Lisa, looking good contributes to feeling good, which translates into treating others better (51:02).
• Harry’s Take: Harry reiterates that lifestyle choices can be very personal: “You have your way and I have mine, which are totally different.” (52:16)
• Practical Advice: Always consult with your doctor before starting new routines (53:05).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Whatever those little bottles of shit have in them that you put on your body or your face or whatever it is, it’s working.” — Harry, 01:39
• “I'm addicted to absolutely everything... Harry uses nothing.” — Lisa, 06:13
• “If you put it [chapstick] on, you’re stuck — you gotta put it on again. You become addicted.” — Harry, 06:01
• “I haven’t taken a vitamin since… in my memory.” — Harry, 10:06
• “I really had bad, bad skin. So seven years ago, eight years ago, when I started her [Sturm’s] products, my skin stopped breaking out.” — Lisa, 16:47
• “If you started using all your stuff, would I get younger looking? Really? Should I try it?” — Harry, 20:14
• “The key to youth is stretching.” — Lisa, 46:58
• “The love you get is equal to the love you give. Isn’t that a great Beatles line?” — Harry, 51:37

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• The Great Bathroom Divide: 00:40–04:10
• Skincare Philosophies: 04:10–06:42
• Snacks and Diet Contrasts: 07:01–09:00
• Supplements & Debate on Efficacy: 09:28–13:00
• In-Depth Skincare: Barbara Sturm & Beyond: 15:41–22:37
• Family’s Sneezing Mystery: 33:23–38:56
• Fitness Routines (Harry & Lisa): 39:00–47:22
• Stretching & Youth: 46:49–50:02
• Attitude and Wrapping Up: 48:49–53:41

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Takeaways

• Lisa’s Recipe: Skincare + vitamins/supplements + diverse, rotating workouts (esp. yoga/stretching) + positive attitude + moderation with “fun” foods = her version of agelessness.
• Harry’s Recipe: Simplicity, clean unprocessed food, exercise, fasting, minimal products, rest — and belief in the body’s wisdom.
• Shared Principle: Consistency, joy, and staying engaged with life (and each other) are the real keys to thriving with age.

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For a detailed product breakdown, Lisa suggests checking her socials for an itemized list of her favorite skincare and wellness products.

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.

[B]

And I'm Harry Hamlin.

[A]

And this is let's Not Talk about the Husband.

[B]

We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.

[A]

Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell. And on this podcast, we're gonna own it, baby.

[B]

Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode.

[A]

Hi. I'm going to say hello this time. Welcome to let's Not Talk about the Husband podcast. Wow.

[B]

And here he is.

[A]

That's the first time I've ever done that, huh?

[B]

And the husband is sitting right here.

[A]

You are sitting right here.

[B]

So you can't talk about me.

[A]

Okay, I won't talk about you, but I do want to talk about, you know, what I thought we should talk about today. That'd be kind of cute. I'm sitting in the bathtub last night, and I was looking around at how many products are in my bathroom, our bathroom. You have a little tiny corner off to the right with, like, two trays.

[B]

Oh, trust me, I'm well aware of this. Your products are growing like a fungus all across the bathroom. I walk in there. No. And, you know, it starts off with one little thing on the. On the counter, this big, about a foot wide. And then a month later, there's another one, and then another one. I mean, did you count how many bottles of, like, of tinctures and things you have in there?

[A]

Yes, sir. As I was sitting in my bathtub, I looked around and I thought, you know, I'm blessed with a great amount of products that a lot of people send me as gifts.

[B]

By the way, I'm not complaining because you look fabulous. Okay. And your body is a great shape.

[A]

You know what? That is the right thing to say right now. Yes, it is.

[B]

I am not whatever. Whatever those little bottles of shit have in them that you put on your body or your face or whatever it is, it's working.

[A]

Well, we're going to talk about it today.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

We're going to talk about it. Because as I looked around, and it's true, it is a grotesque amount of things in our bathroom. And I don't know.

[B]

Really is something.

[A]

I actually don't know how I haven't gone completely claustrophobic crazy, because I'm pretty neat. But I also call myself, like, a neat hoarder in a way.

[B]

Well, you're definitely a hoarder. And it looks neat the way this stuff is organized. But if you were really, to break it down, if you were to look at it, you go, oh my God, there are hundreds of bottles and little things full of this and that. You can put a little drop of this here or there or whatever. I mean, what is all that stuff? Do I just, as, I mean, there's the end result. It looks good to me.

[A]

Well, as I was sitting in my bathtub, which I love, because you, you created that bathtub.

[B]

Oh, by the way, the bathtub that took me months to find that bathtub.

[A]

I'll tell you why it's so good.

[B]

A foot long bathtub.

[A]

It's a six and a half foot long bathtub and it is heavenly. It's the longest bathtub.

[B]

You'll never find another one. I mean, I wanted that bathtub and I searched high and low. I'm telling you, in Northern California.

[A]

Why did you want that?

[B]

Well, I'm not a big bath taker.

[A]

You never take a bath. So why did you want.

[B]

Well, because I, I, if I was going to take a bath, the one thing I didn't like about taking bath was those little bathtubs where you get into them and you're kind of like all scrunched up inside. I said, if you can take a bath, you want to be able to lie down the bathtub. Right.

[A]

My favorite thing.

[B]

And I'm six feet, so I.

[A]

My favorite thing. Yeah, so, so thank you for that. So as I'm in my favorite bathtub, really in the world, I look around and I go, wow, you know what we should talk about? We should talk about, because I get asked this a lot. How do you, you know, how do you look the way you do? How do you stay in shape? What do you do? What do you eat? What's your workout? What do you. And I thought, well, let's talk about it on the frickin podcast.

[B]

Cause you're 95 years old.

[A]

96 actually. Yeah. And holding.

[B]

But you look great. Thank you.

[A]

So do you, Harry.

[B]

Well, thank you for that.

[A]

And I wanted to talk about what you do too, because.

[B]

Well, I don't do anything.

[A]

Well, that's what we're going to talk about. Harry's got a little tiny corner in the bathroom with like, what, Mitchum Deodorant. Oh, I did put Harry on Dr. Perricone skin care, like years ago.

[B]

You.

[A]

15 years ago.

[B]

You saw that I kept a little bottle of baby oil next to the sink, and that's all I ever put on my face was baby oil. And you know, I see like Delilah and you and Amelia all washing your face like two or three times a day. I haven't washed my face in 40 years.

[A]

He doesn't wash his face, guys.

[B]

I know I've never washed my face.

[A]

And he puts baby oil on. And I remember thinking, you know what? I think it's time. I don't know why I thought this, but I was like, I think maybe baby oil, it's because it's really mineral oil. Maybe we should just get him like on a skincare routine of some kind. I don't know why I chose Dr. Perricone. She's a doctor. And I got you some cream and some like something else.

[B]

Well, I stopped using baby oil then and I started using a little dab of that stuff. But you know my feeling about the human body, and I don't think I'm wrong about this. I know the human body is the greatest machine the universe has ever created. And it's got like tons of redundancy and backups all over the human body, you know, if you let it do its own thing, it knows how to regulate your skin, it knows how to regulate your digestive tract, knows how to regulate your blood. It knows how to do all that stuff. That's why we're here. I know, because we evolved into these, like this, these unbelievably perfect machines. And if you start messing with it and you start like you're. Tell me about your lips, which I love. I love kissing your lips. I love everything about you, but if you.

[A]

I'm addicted to any you're lipstick or lip gloss, I can't not have it on you.

[B]

If you didn't, if you didn't have lip gloss on for like six hours, what would happen to you?

[A]

I would pick my lips. I would chew them and pick them and they'd be bloody. True story. Yeah. I would be so chapped. And my mother had the same habit. My mother never did not have lipstick on, so she didn't use lip gloss, but she always had her lipstick. So it's something that kind of runs in the family.

[B]

I won't even use chapstick. I won't put it on because once you put it on, you're stuck. I mean, you gotta put it on again because you become addicted.

[A]

Well, it's same with body lotion.

[B]

It's just that's why I don't use any body lotion because, yeah, I get addicted to it.

[A]

So I'm addicted to absolutely everything and I use absolutely everything. Harry uses nothing. He's got a little tiny, tiny, tiny corner in her bathroom with, like, nothing on it. Truly, Dr. Perricone Mitchum. Some athlete foot spray.

[B]

Yeah, that's about it.

[A]

Your mouth guard for your When I sleep at night.

[B]

And some toenail fungus stuff. A little bottle of toenail fungus. I don't use eye stuff. I don't use that.

[A]

No eye drops. Like, he is the most low maintenance, well, person. Truly.

[B]

But you don't have. You don't need. Your body can do it all. I mean, that's what I. I tell to Delilah all the time, you know, because she's always complaining of upset songs and she takes antacids. And I say, but if you take the antacids, your body doesn't know what to do, doesn't know how to regulate itself because this thing comes in and goes, well, you don't need me anymore. Just take this pill.

[A]

I mean, it's true. You are in such great shape at your age. You look so great. Thank you. You eat really well. Harry does eat really well. You know, no junk food. Not even dessert. Really.

[B]

Well, I have a cookie.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you have your oatmeal cookies. Harry gets these oatmeal cookies from Ralph's. And I'm sorry, but they're ratchet. They are not like the Erewhon. I like the Erewhon oatmeal cookies that.

[B]

Are $5.99 for $5.95 at Erewhon, 12 cookies for 3.99 at Ralph's. Okay, that is great. Why don't you say it again? One cookie for $5.99 at Erewhon, 12 cookies for $3.99 at Ralph's.

[A]

This is amazing.

[B]

And the ones at Erewhon are shitty and don't taste good. The ones from Ralph's taste fantastic. I mean, I'm sorry. Ratchet.

[A]

No, ratchet. They're full of sugar. They're not good. I don't like them at all. You keep them in the freezer because I started to keep my erwhon cookies in the freezer because they do taste better. But I'm so sorry, that's the juxtaposition of us. Ralph's oatmeal cookies. Erewhon oatmeal cookie. Right here. Right there. Right there. I much rather have the Erewhon cookie.

[B]

I've had one cookies.

[A]

I don't like yours.

[B]

Well, that's why they're for me.

[A]

How many do you have? Two. I have two, maybe three.

[B]

I know I have two. So very occasionally three, but, you know. Yeah, that's my. My one Vice is. Is having an oatmeal cookie.

[A]

It's truly amazing. I love that you eat so clean. No chips, no junk food at all. Like, I love my snacks.

[B]

There's a good reason for that, because snacks make me feel terrible.

[A]

I love my snacks. I love my chips. I love my things. The girls, we all, like, have bags and bags of, like, cheese puffy things and.

[B]

Oh, God, those orange things. Yeah. I'm sorry.

[A]

I mean, I grew up on Twinkies and Hostess Ding Dongs and cupcakes and, like, Cheez Its. And I'm surprised. I really am Wheat Thins and I mean, my. I don't think I had lettuce until I was 19 years old. I'm not kidding.

[B]

I use jello for salad. Right?

[A]

Yes. I am the most unhealthy human. I have got processed food in my veins. Like, I have. I've changed. I'm healthier now than I've ever been. But I love a snack. I love a treat.

[B]

Slim Jim. And we mentioned Slim Jim.

[A]

Don't send me any more, though. Please don't send me huge boxes. Oh, my God. Okay, so. But I do look pretty fabulous, and I am in pretty good shape. So.

[B]

So as we were leaving the house today, I. I saw you. We have a cabinet in the kitchen that has a lot of. So you've got a lot of products up in the bathroom for yourself and your body, but you've got more products and supplements in the. In the kitchen.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And as we were walking out the doors that were open to the cabinet, and I saw you with a bottle of this, and you're putting a little bit of this in. And then you said, I'm gonna have a little bit of that and a little of this. I'll take a little of these. And what are you. What were you taking?

[A]

I will tell you exactly. So we'll go back to the bathroom after this because people will want to know, like, what I use.

[B]

I want to know what's in and what you use.

[A]

But okay. In the cabinet. I'm big on vitamins and supplements. I am.

[B]

And I haven't taken a vitamin pill since I'm. In my memory. I don't remember ever taking a vitamin pill.

[A]

So we are truly, completely different every side of the way.

[B]

I've got supplements here.

[A]

So as I was going, because I've been working so much lately, I believe my cortisol level is through the roof and my adrenals are shot. So you saw me take an adrenal pill. B vitamin a, multivitamin. Vitamin D5000. I take that every day because I think that really helps in many ways.

[B]

Vitamin D, that's this you get from the sun, right?

[A]

Yes. Then I took a bone building calcium algae pill because I have.

[B]

So we're up to like, how many pills now? Four.

[A]

That's what I took. Okay, that's not everything.

[B]

I was on a daily basis. How many pills do you take?

[A]

Well, I'll take magnesium tonight.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's about it. But I also started taking some peptides, which I think really have been helpful now.

[B]

Okay, what is a peptide?

[A]

A peptide is like something called nad I take in the morning. That's supposed to help your metabolism. You know, when you get to be my age, everything slows down. And even if I looked at a cookie, you know, if I eat it, you gain weight, like literally.

[B]

So do you think these things keep. They're keeping you thin, these things?

[A]

I think they're keeping my muscle tone a bit more and keeping my metabolism higher. Yes. So I take that in the morning and then at night I take something that I put under my tongue. That is. It stimulates your human growth hormone. It's not taking human growth hormone, but it stimulates it.

[B]

So. But if you stopped any of these things, nothing bad would happen, right? No, I mean, you could just, you could go cold turkey on all this stuff and you wouldn't feel it.

[A]

You pee it out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like you pee it out after.

[B]

Do you think honestly that there's a difference that you can feel from taking supplements?

[A]

I know there is.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Why would I waste my time taking.

[B]

It if I don't know Some people take supplements just because they're there.

[A]

Oh, no, no.

[B]

Do you think they have a real difference?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really? So if I took these, would I feel, like, better?

[A]

Well, yeah, you'd have more energy.

[B]

I have tons of energy.

[A]

Well, I don't know, it's a personal thing.

[B]

I'd be like, bounce one off the wall.

[A]

Well, you don't really have that much energy. I hate to tell you. You could probably have more.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

You do drink a Red Bull every day.

[B]

Well, that's a little energy.

[A]

That's not a vitamin, that's a Red Bull.

[B]

Well, that's true. That's not supposed to be very good for you. So I do have that as a.

[A]

You have two a day or one?

[B]

Depends.

[A]

Okay. Maybe if you took your peptides and your vitamins, you wouldn't have to take your Red Bull.

[B]

Well, I have to take my Red bones become kind of a thing.

[A]

Well, we're talking about what we do today so we won't judge. No judging.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Bathroom and we'll talk about the bathroom. Yeah. What? Okay. Barbara Sturm. I know there's a lot of Sturm stuff. One of the. One of your trays is nothing but Sturm. Like those little potions, those little drops. And would you drop them in your.

[A]

Mouth or on your skin, on your face? You know, if you were on social media or TikTok, the girls take it and, like, draw it. Like, they drip it on their face. I don't do that. I put it in my hand and then do this. I met Dr. Barbara Sturm, like, seven years ago. She came to town during the Oscars, and she is a doctor from Germany, and she had a free, like, facial clinic, and I was invited, and I went and she did a facial, and then she put me on her products. And I've always had problem skin. I've always had breakups since I was.

[B]

A teenager when we first met. You were on your skin. Always a huge issue. I remember huge. This is like 30.

[A]

Some huge issue. I've been on Accutane twice. Like, I've had really bad, bad skin. So seven years ago, eight years ago, when I started her. Her products, my skin start. Stopped breaking out.

[B]

Oh, no, I haven't seen. You haven't broken out at all. And that's. That's Barbara's term, really?

[A]

And I had. I really had really problem skin.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[A]

So not only did it help that it helped my melasma. I had very bad melasma after I got pregnant with the kids. Which is like, brown mask on your face. You probably didn't notice it much.

[B]

Oh, I noticed it a little bit, but it wasn't to me, it wasn't that big of a deal.

[A]

But it. It's a big deal to us women because it's hard to cover with makeup. And, you know, so I've always had issues with my skin. So not until I met Dr. Sturm did my skin calm down. Got rid of my melasma. She has, like, a darker skin formula that cleared my melasma, cleared my acne.

[B]

And so how long did it take?

[A]

A couple months.

[B]

Only a couple months. How many bottles of Barbara Sturm stuff do you think you have on the counter?

[A]

Oh, geez. A lot. Everything she makes, I have, really. Okay.

[B]

And you have travel bottles, too, because she sends travel stuff.

[A]

I use it. I won't go without it. I will not go without it.

[B]

Well, I have to say thank you, Barbara Stern, because I wake up in the morning and I look over and I see this next to me. In the morning. And.

[A]

Yeah, and I love her. She's one of the nicest human beings on the planet. She's such a hardworking businesswoman and she's created a phenomenal business. Not only how great it is, but she is an amazing businesswoman. Like, so smart. And I just applaud her every step of the way because she's built her business. When I first met her, it was brand new. She's built it into really a multi, multi million dollar company. And I'm so impressed by that. So I love her. I love. I love you, Barbara Sturm.

[B]

So what else is up there besides the Barbara Sturm stuff? Because you got tons and tons and tons of tinctures and bottles of this and that. But that's just. She's the tip of the iceberg.

[A]

She's the tip. But she's the. She's definitely the, The. The base. Right? So, you know, as you age, you add things. And she came out with exomes, which is another thing that's very important right now. Peptides and exomes for your face. You know, I'm very into.

[B]

What the heck is an exome?

[A]

Well, exactly. You need to do it.

[B]

Sounds like something that the QANON people are after.

[A]

I mean, I don't think so. I put it on my face and it's anti aging. And it's like the next. The next frontier in anti aging. And so I think it's great. I use it. She makes it.

[B]

Does it cure wrinkles and stuff or what does it do?

[A]

It somehow makes you look younger. I don't know if it cures wrinkles, but it helps your skin products.

[B]

Whenever they're having an ad, the way they say it makes your skin look.

[A]

Glowy or younger, makes it look.

[B]

Makes it feel younger. But they never say it makes it younger. It makes it feel or look younger.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

You can't really say it actually does anything. I mean.

[A]

Well, I think they do, though. I think all these products and listen, I have plenty of them. And I try new things. People send me things, love to try new things. I also use Retin A, which is.

[B]

I remember when that came out. It was a big deal.

[A]

A big deal.

[B]

In the 90s.

[A]

It came out right, I think earlier.

[B]

Really? Okay.

[A]

But I've used that for a long time because my mom used to use it. And I think that that is very, very, very anti aging. And it also helped with my pimples. But now I always, always use Retin A.

[B]

So do you if I started using all of your stuff Would I get younger looking? Really? Should I try it and see what happens?

[A]

It's right there in front of you. You could try a bajillion different things. Plus, a lot of it smells good. A lot of it feels yummy. I now have oils. I have, like.

[B]

You've got everything.

[A]

I have Augustine Bader. I love elta tinted sunscreen. 46. Another thing. I never go without sunscreen. I always wear sunscreen when I wake up in the morning. Is this boring for you?

[B]

Am I yawning?

[A]

No, but I. Just checking. I put sunscreen on before I go downstairs. Renee Rouleau, who's a fabulous esthetician that I met in Dallas. I'd say 17. No, 19 years ago because I was doing Chicago.

[B]

We did Chicago 19 years ago.

[A]

No, 2007. I'm sorry. I did Dancing with Stars 2006. So 2007. So 18 years ago.

[B]

Who's counting? 18 years. Holy.

[A]

So let's give Renee her shout out. Brilliant esthetician. You can get her products online. Amazing. I use all her stuff. She said to me, you got to put sunscreen on when you wake up in the morning the minute you hit the window.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yep. I was like, okay. So she really taught me about sunscreen.

[B]

Like coming through the window, especially because.

[A]

I had melasma, remember?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Heat causes melasma. So going in a sauna, working out in a fricking hot yoga class can cause melasma. I didn't know any of that. She taught me all that. We love her. Okay, you gotta treat your chest. You gotta go from all the way down to your boobs with the sunscreen, with. With cream, with. With moisturizer. A lot of times we just stop here. Gotta do the back of your neck. You gotta do all the way to your boobs.

[B]

Really? Yeah, but. But once again, your body becomes addicted to the moisturizer.

[A]

Yeah, but it looks good, doesn't it?

[B]

Well, it does look good. What would happen to you if all of a sudden you did nothing? Well, no. If we all of a sudden got ejected out of an airplane or somehow we landed on a desert island and you had no products, no lip gloss, no anything, and you just had. We just had to just exist. What would happen to you?

[A]

I would turn gray. Like if I went to prison. That's like going to prison. So if I went to prison, that's what would happen to me. My hair would turn gray and then.

[B]

And you wouldn't get any lip gloss. You'd be. You. You'd be probably.

[A]

I would have no botox. No, nothing. I would wrinkle up and look old.

[B]

Really? So it's like there's a Dorian Gray picture somewhere. Are you kidding?

[A]

We both have one. Honey, you know that. We both have a picture up there. I walked into Dr. Sugarman's office the other day and he goes, secret Dorian grape painting in your room. He always does that with me. I was like, aw. My mom always looked very young. I mean, I think genetically, you and I both are lust. Yeah, No, I like, it's not that hard to keep.

[B]

Our weight came out okay. We were stamped really well when we.

[A]

Came out, my dad and mom were very, you know, in shape. My mom never gained any weight. Like, she always weighed the same, like, between 110 and 113 her whole life.

[B]

I think that your mom was right about your age. When I met her. I think she was.

[A]

She had a facelift at 61. I remember that. I'll never forget that. She had such a good facelift in Medford, Oregon. Yeah. So at 61. So you met her?

[B]

No, she was. She would have been a little older. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But I'll never forget that my mom never took to bed right. Like, she. My mother just went like you, kind of all the time. Never slowed down. She. I remember she had her eyes done at one point, and then she had her face lift. And that was the only time I ever remember her in bed.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And she had a hysterectomy, but I was too young.

[B]

Your mom and dad were so great. You're the mom they had, the mom and dad that I wish I had.

[A]

You know, such great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was so lucky. That's where I was raised. Really lucky.

[B]

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[A]

Okay, now let's talk about fitness. Just get it over with.

[B]

Okay. So fitness. So what I do and eat?

[A]

What do you eat and how do you work out?

[B]

Okay, I walk every day.

[A]

You hike? It's a hike.

[B]

It's a hike.

[A]

It's an hour long hike. Yeah, up and down hills.

[B]

Hour and 15 minutes up and down. It's just under three miles. Do it every day and work up a sweat every day doing that. And then come back and then three days a week I'll go into a little home gym that we have at home and I'll lift some weights for a while and then that's kind of it for my physical routine, I guess. But I intermittent fast, so I haven't eaten breakfast in 10 years. That's true. I started about 10 years ago with the intermittent fasting and I don't eat.

[A]

Until 2pm I would kill somebody if I did that. Like I literally would murder somebody. I can't do that. Like I would literally.

[B]

Well, if you tried it probably kill you. Because I'm never hungry, you know, so I know. I just, I've never had. My energy is never low and do have some tea in the morning and some caffeine in the morning. I probably don't need that. I mean it's kind of more of routine now.

[A]

I like that habit. Yeah, we don't drink coffee. We don't drink coffee. Coffee is not good for me.

[B]

Coffee's not good.

[A]

It does not make it terrible for my stomach. So I stopped drinking coffee. I drink yerba mate tea, which drives me crazy.

[B]

I can't drink yerba mate. I get all jittery from yerba mate.

[A]

Oh, it's my, it's my happy drink.

[B]

You know, you're. You're Able to tolerate that. I can't tolerate yerba mate. Really makes me really crazy.

[A]

Makes me so happy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I have it every day. I love it so much. And then what do you have for what is your food? Tell em what your food's like.

[B]

Well, lately I've been eating granola for.

[A]

My first meal, which is odd actually because you have very high hypoglycemia.

[B]

I do, but if I don't, if I eat it too, by then my body has somehow regulated itself glucose wise. If I had the granola at 9 or 10 in the morning, I would definitely have a hypoglycemia event. Like around one or two you get.

[A]

Dizzy and like want to pass out kind of thing.

[B]

Yeah. Your legs start to sweat. Yeah. You get very shaky. You have to have carbs and protein right away.

[A]

But it doesn't work. It doesn't happen at 2.

[B]

It doesn't happen at 2.

[A]

Fascinating.

[B]

I know. Well, I think it's just as the day progresses, your body regulates itself. So I've been having that 2pm with, with some berries. I don't need fruit. Fruit is not in my diet. I know, but berries, I'll have some of those.

[A]

Yeah, we're kind of into berries right now.

[B]

Yeah, in the summertime berries are tasty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But fruit, no. I mean, I read that book by Peter Attia called Outlive, which I highly recommend for anybody who's in our age group who's trying to figure out.

[A]

There you go guys.

[B]

Live your best last few decades.

[A]

Again, we're not experts, but Peter Attia.

[B]

Is really smart and he came up with, he has four main things, a lot of things in the book, but I, I came away with four major takeaways.

[A]

I need to read this book.

[B]

There are four things that you can do that enhance your life and you know, and give you a boost up physically and mentally. And the first one, and the one that's by far and away the most important he says, is exercise. So it's like exercise is way up here. As you get older, you got to do more of it.

[A]

Got it. And you got to do weight bearing.

[B]

And then, and then oddly enough, the next one down is sleep.

[A]

I believe it.

[B]

You know, and you gotta get, you gotta get seven to eight hours of sleep. It's gotta be good sleep. And then the next one down is nutrition. And you think nutrition would be way up there in terms of what you put in your body. Because you know, many, many years ago they came up with that slogan, you are what you eat and I took that to heart, you know, and I.

[A]

And your body keeps score. I have to say that out loud too. Well, your body keeps the score.

[B]

It was like number one this week on the bestseller list right now.

[A]

Yes, it's been number one a long, long time.

[B]

Well, it's been on the best for years, but that's number one.

[A]

This, That's a great book, by the way.

[B]

So. Peter T. So, and then number four. And you would think that somewhere in there would be mental acuity, like doing crossword puzzles and stuff like that as you get, but that's not. Not part of it. What's more, it's so exercise, sleep, sleep, nutrition, nutrition, and then having a good relationship, good friendships and, and a home life. These are the things that give you the best boost up as you get older in life. So if you got a good set of friends and a good spouse, good relationship, family situation going on, you eat well, you sleep well and you get lots of exercise, you live forever.

[A]

Well, I don't know about living forever, but you live probably longer and better.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. I think I agree with that totally.

[B]

So that's what I do. I intermittent fast and when I eat, I cook all my own food.

[A]

You like steak, you like fish?

[B]

Well, I tried being vegan.

[A]

We Both did, for two years. About.

[B]

I tried for one year.

[A]

Killed us.

[B]

360 years.

[A]

Killed me.

[B]

It killed me too.

[A]

That killed me.

[B]

I read this book called the China Study. I actually read it twice.

[A]

That killed us.

[B]

That's true. We're not.

[A]

We love you vegans and we think it's awesome, but.

[B]

Well, I would, I would, I would love it if it worked for me.

[A]

I know, me too.

[B]

Because I think there's a whole lot of reasons why.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

The, the beef industry, the meat industry is like destroying the planet for a whole lot of things. I mean, there's a. The rainforest in Brazil are getting cut.

[A]

Down, but we could go on and on. We could.

[B]

So I would much prefer to be vegan if I could do it and, and feel good. But I'm also much too selfish to feel bad for the sake of veganism, you know.

[A]

Well, there you have it, folks.

[B]

But anyway, so I cook. I don't need any processed foods or I try to avoid processed foods. I mean, every once in a while.

[A]

Except for your cookies. That's all I'm gonna say. Except for those Ralph cookies.

[B]

But I mean, that'.

[A]

Counting.

[B]

Somebody made those by hand in a bowl, though.

[A]

I mean, please.

[B]

They're not. Have you looked at the Industrial cookies.

[A]

But have you looked at the ingredients?

[B]

Yeah, they have some sugar in them. True. And, but I don't eat them a lot, so. Yeah. Oh my God.

[A]

Well, I'm just stating, you know, we have to state the obvious. I mean, very small, what you do badly. Yeah, that's the. If that's bad, you're okay. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

That's my advice. Yeah. And how about you, what do you eat? You eat Slim Jims and stuff?

[A]

I don't eat them all the time. Okay, so what? Beef jerky, I just eat all over the place. But it just, I'm consistent in what I want to eat in the moment. So, like I'm eating a lot of Greek yogurt right now. A lot of berries, bananas. I will eat fruit. I will have apples and I like apples and peanut butter and I like apples with string cheese as snacks. I like eggs right now. Hard boiled eggs. I love a poached egg.

[B]

When I was, when you were pregnant.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I had to take you down to the all night diner to do poached eggs at one o' clock in the morning.

[A]

I was with Amelia. Amelia had to have. I had to have poached eggs every day. And Delilah had to have Taco Bell.

[B]

You had to have Taco Bell. So I had to find Taco Bells that were open at all hours when you were pregnant with Delilah. Because I'd have to. You'd say, harry, I gotta have, I gotta have a Taco Bell. Burrito, Burrito, burrito. I go, where is there a Taco Bell open? I would drive miles.

[A]

And that thing that was in the dish, it was like an enchilada and a burrito. Oh God, I haven't had that in a while. So yes, I have my moments of changing around my diet. I will eat cake if I want it. I love pasta, I love pizza.

[B]

You're sneezing thing. Okay, okay, so Lisa's got this thing, right?

[A]

And so my dad and my dad has it.

[B]

And her sister has it too, doesn't she?

[A]

My half sister. So we don't know where it's coming from, in what part of the family.

[B]

Lisa will eat something like, let's say it's ice cream or cake or pretty much anything.

[A]

As my dad would say, something rich, it's. Something rich would make him sneeze.

[B]

And she sneezes not once, not twice, not three times, not four times. Five, six or seven times. Eight to 14, at least 12, maybe 14 times.

[A]

I can do it with tequila. I can do it with vodka. I can do it with cake, cookies. It has to be something that is.

[B]

But it's almost daily, right? I mean, you'll sneeze pretty much.

[A]

Well, how about this? I almost sneezed today, and I got a soy green tea matcha latte at Starbucks, so the soy milk was gonna make me sneeze, and I only drank half of it. If I had had all of it, I'd have sneezed. I think it has something to do with GMOs. I do think that's what I think.

[B]

I think it has to do, but.

[A]

You can't nail it down.

[B]

But the weird thing is that you were born in Southern California and Newport Beach. You spent some time in Newport beach when you were a child.

[A]

Seven years.

[B]

Seven years. And were you sneezing when you were seven or eight?

[A]

I don't remember.

[B]

Yeah, but we all.

[A]

We all were there. My sister was there. She came to live with us for a year and a half. My mom and dad. Maybe that's where we were.

[B]

Maybe you were exposed to something because it can't be genetic, because your. Your mother and your father, who are not related by blood, both had it. So it has to be something environmental that you guys were exposed to that causes you to have this vulnerability to whatever it is that causes you to sneeze. 10, 12, 13 times.

[A]

If anybody has this, would you guys please call in our voicemail line and tell me about it? And if you've had it your whole life, what makes you sneeze? I would love to hear this.

[B]

Because you've got to get up and leave a restaurant. You have to go walk outside, because.

[A]

Especially during COVID How about that?

[B]

That's right. And people heard somebody sneeze during COVID It was like, oh, my God, that person's spreading the disease all over the place. So you would have to get up and walk outside and sneeze. And it takes what, five, ten minutes sometimes?

[A]

Well, and then it also completely wipes me out.

[B]

That's right. You're. You are wiped. You're done for the day after a sneezing attack.

[A]

So especially at night, usually when it happens, I go to bed, basically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there are very few times I've ever let it happen at work because I would be out. It happened one time, I think on Housewives.

[B]

You were shooting something.

[A]

Oh, on Housewives one time. You know where it was? I know exactly. We were at Kathy Hilton's house having that dinner, that, like, horribly awkward dinner with Sutton and Erica. Like, totally, like, getting into it, like, horribly. And I was drunk. That's when I started to drink on the show, Remember?

[B]

Yeah. I didn't drink the beginning of the end. Starting to drink on the show. But there you go. Yeah, but it was because I had told her when she took the show, two things she couldn't do. One, she can't drink. Two, can't. Look at the comments.

[A]

But I didn't drink for five years. And then I was like, I'm just going to try it. So this was during that time, I was drunk at this party, like, literally drunk. Sitting there with this little tiny dog in my lap, like, just drunk. So one of those Vanderpump dogs, a smaller one. Paris Hilton. Little dog things, like this little tiny thing. I was having such a fun time, just cracking myself up. Whatever I ate or drank, I had to sneeze. And I got up and went to the bathroom and sneezed probably 14 times.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's the only time that it happened. You get whacked Totally.

[A]

I was drunk anyway, so I was whacked and drunk and. Oh, my God, now everyone's gonna go back and watch that scene. Go watch it. I was drunk.

[B]

There just doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason, though, because you can, You. You can go to a restaurant. You could have cheesecake one night and never sneeze. And ice cream, not sneeze. You could have pasta not sneeze. And the next night you have asparagus and you sneeze 14 times.

[A]

But wait, I will say, when I'm in Europe, when I'm in Paris, I don't sneeze that much.

[B]

No GMO over there. That's right.

[A]

I do not sneeze much when I'm traveling, guys. That's why I think it has to do with GMOs or something. But if you have this issue, call into our voicemail line and tell me about it, please, because we can't figure it out.

[B]

I think there's some GMO thing going on. Because, you know, 15, 20 years ago, before GMO was everywhere, before they were using genetic, you know, modifications, there was no gluten free aisle in the grocery store. Nobody had even heard the word gluten.

[A]

Not even really much of a health.

[B]

Food, who nobody even knew what about gluten was an unknown commodity 20 years ago. And now everybody knows what gluten is.

[A]

What they've done to our wheat.

[B]

I think it has to do with the wheat. I don't know. Look, I'm not a nutritionist. I do have, you know, products that are on the market that don't use gmo. We are non gmo.

[A]

There you go. And what is it else? You got a couple of those markers.

[B]

All our certifications where we are fully woman owned. We're non gmo. Several of the products are vegan. They would all be vegan, but we have a little tiny bit of honey in the original product and Honey.

[A]

And what about the vegetables? Something about the vegetables are. There's no processed.

[B]

Well, the vegetables are non gmo.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[B]

Yeah. So. And we're getting all these.

[A]

I've ever sneezed with your product. Let's point that out.

[B]

You had that last night. You had.

[A]

I have not sneezed. Eating your sauce. No, I think it's GMOs.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

All right, so now we'll get to my workout just so we can be done with it.

[B]

Okay. You what? You work out, Plural. I mean, you've done every workout known to man.

[A]

I have done, by the way, every workout.

[B]

I've been with Lisa for almost 30 years.

[A]

No, 33.

[B]

33.

[A]

Excuse me, 33.

[B]

Okay. I've been with 33. And everywhere we go, every year counts people. People come up to us and they say, oh, Lisa, gosh, I haven't seen you forever. Remember, we were in that class together? And it was some funky class. 25 years.

[A]

Billy Blanks. Yeah, Billy Blanks. You name it. Jazzercise. I started with Jazzercise. So first of all, I. My mom had me. My mom, dad had me play tennis. So I played competitive tennis. I was never very good at it. I started with my right hand. I wasn't very good, so they put the tennis racket in my left hand because I'm left handed. And then I started to play better. That's the truth.

[B]

I remember when we first met, your reputation was that you were a great tennis player and a great skier. I got that. You were on the ski team and you're on the tennis team in high school and stuff.

[A]

Yes, I was playing tennis.

[B]

And I was playing tennis back then.

[A]

And I just didn't want to go near it.

[B]

And I said, let's play tennis. And you would say, no, I don't feel like it.

[A]

Do that. I was so burned out. I played competitively. I was number one on the tennis team.

[B]

I wanted to play so badly because I. I didn't learn how to play tennis until I was in my 30s because my father only had one hand.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So he was not. He didn't know how. He never taught us how to ski or play tennis, any sports like that, because he couldn't throw a ball up. So I never learned any.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

I never learned any of those sports.

[A]

That's right. Skiing or tennis. And I did it my whole entire life.

[B]

And so by the time I met you, I was just getting into skiing and tennis. And I'd say, let's go skiing and play tennis together. And say, no, done, done. Don't want to do anymore.

[A]

I have ski. We did ski. We ski a lot. But tennis, I was so burned out. Shot my knees out. It just. I couldn't do it anymore. My parents played it. Everybody played it. I like. I couldn't even. It's too bad because I am good at it, but.

[B]

So all of these work. You started out and by the way, you had your own. What do they call those things? They don't do them anymore. On tv, where you have a. An infomercial. Infomercial.

[A]

No, I had those DVDs with Lily.

[B]

Do they do infomercials anymore?

[A]

Yeah, but I had those DVDs. Those dance DVDs.

[B]

We did. Yeah.

[A]

You've been Dance Body Beautiful.

[B]

Dance Body Beautiful by Lisa Rinna. That's right. And you have been inspired by Jane. Right? By Jane Fonda. Because didn't you do her workout early on?

[A]

When I first moved to la. Let's go back. So I started jazzercise at the church in Medford. Greatest thing ever. When I discovered aerobics, I thought I'd just died and gotten to heaven.

[B]

That's right. Aerobic. Aerobics.

[A]

It was a big deal. I did step aerobics. I did all of it. It was joy, pure joy to me. Cause I'd played tennis competitively and it was not fun at that point. And I'd skied competitively and wasn't fun anymore. So I discover jazzercise and aerobics. And I just think, oh, my God. So starts there. And then when I moved to San Francisco, not many people know this. I got a job at Richard Simmons. He had like a workout place.

[B]

He had franchises all over the country.

[A]

In Daly City, California. And I taught aerobics at Richard Simmons. It looked like a discotheque. It was red carpet, mirrors all over the wall. And I also taught aerobics. We gotta go back at the racquetball court in Medford at 6am had my own musical tape that I made. Probably had two people in my class. And I taught aerobics.

[B]

You were aerobics instructor for five minutes.

[A]

I was.

[B]

I did not know this about you.

[A]

No, it's true. So I did it at the racket club. Six in the morning. Like, who. Who am I? Like, what is that?

[B]

Did you have a class of people who would show up at 6 in the morning?

[A]

Two, maybe.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I did have it. And I had, like, Cool in the Gang and Gap Band on my little tape that I made. And then when I moved to Daly City, I worked at Richard Simmons and taught a class there. I barely remember this, but I did it. So I know that that started my passion of working out. Okay, then what did I do after that? Like, you name it. Any workout that's been.

[B]

Oh, you've done everything under the sun.

[A]

I remember Billy Blanks, aerobics, private trainers, which I don't love. What other classes are there? Pilates.

[B]

Oh, you did pole dancing. Pole dancing was this thing with kickballs when you were throwing balls at each other too. Was that. Did that ever happen?

[A]

No. What else did I do? I've done every workout under the sun. I've met all my friends.

[B]

Like the pole dancing one, you got. You got really strong in doing the pole dancing.

[A]

That was hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Pole dancing is one of the hardest things.

[B]

And, you know, we still have somebody who. Somebody gave us a pole.

[A]

There's a pole in the garage.

[B]

Somebody gave us a pole that we could set up in the living room. And you could, like, do your pole thing on it.

[A]

You could set it up. Amelia's now taking a class.

[B]

No, really? She's taking a pole dancing class.

[A]

I think Delilah has too. It's a hard workout. I mean, to lift yourself up on that pole. Anyway, I've done every workout. I've met so many people in all my classes, as you said. Oh, when I first moved to Los Angeles, what did I do? I went straight to Jane Fonda Workout. It was on Robertson. I'll never forget. I'm like starstruck, right? I walk in.

[B]

Was she there?

[A]

She was there a lot of the time.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Oh, yeah. But not this time. I walk in. Demi Moore is there. She just had her baby, Rumer. And Rumer was sitting with the nanny or somebody on the bench because there was a cute little courtyard. And I go, and I took class with Demi. I still have friends from to this day that I met at Jane Fonda workout. 36. Seven years ago. 37 years ago.

[B]

So Demi Moore is your first name drop of the day.

[A]

That's true. I've been very good today.

[B]

No But. But that. I didn't know that you had had this experience with Demi.

[A]

Saw a little baby rumor. She was probably six weeks old. I told her that one day I saw her somewhere and I told her that story. It was really cute. She was the cutest little baby. Anyway, who else? There was always lots of people. And I went to this class every single day. I drove from Marina Del Rey to class.

[B]

Isn't yoga your biggest thing now?

[A]

Now we got to get to. I got into yoga 27 years ago with Steve. Steve Ross.

[B]

That was the first time you did yoga. When we did it together with Steve Ross.

[A]

My first yoga class.

[B]

Oh, really? He's the one who introduced us to Eckhart Tolle.

[A]

That's correct.

[B]

That's right. He's good friends with Eckhart Tolle.

[A]

Oh, he loves Steve Ross. So Steve Ross at Maha Yoga in Brentwood. So we used to drive.

[B]

That's another name drop, by the way.

[A]

A good one, though. And Steve Ross was. He played music, like a yoga class with, like, the best music. Woody Harrelson would be in class. You name it. We love that class. Changed my life when I gave birth to Delilah that night. I went to Steve's class that day. Pregnant hour and a half.

[B]

Nine months pregnant. You went to really?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I remember we would get so sweaty in that class. I would have a couple of towels in the car. We always took different cars. I would meet you there and you would go, busy. We were busy. And I'd get into. I had that Porsche at the time, and I used to have to put two big dowels in the bucket seat because it would. I would soak right through it.

[A]

Greatest thing ever. We used to go do the stairs.

[B]

In Santa Monica every day.

[A]

Up and down those stairs, walk up.

[B]

And down these stairs. Just walk up and down and up and down. And to this day, we drive out there and we still. People see people walking up and down those stairs. Yeah.

[A]

I would say the thing about me, because I've done everything is I'm just consistent. I pick something or pick a few things. Spin class, yoga, Pilates, you name it, I'll just do it. I'll just consistently do it. I do it, what, four or five times a week. It's like brushing my teeth.

[B]

You do it every day, don't you?

[A]

Not really. Not every single day, but almost.

[B]

I only take one day off that Saturday when I go to acting class on Saturdays, I take. I don't hike on that day.

[A]

Well, for me, it depends. But I try to. I think the key And I've been telling people this lately. I think the key to youth is stretching. Gotta keep your body limber. And that's why number y, number one is yoga for me. I like Pilates very much because I also believe at this age you got to do, you got to do some strength training. And so I do do weights to keep my bones from breaking.

[B]

Says weights for sure. You know, got to do weights, got to do weights, you got to do the aerobics, you got to get the, you know, keep yourself going. Walking is a great.

[A]

I walk with my five pound vest.

[B]

Oh, you do?

[A]

I walk with my five pound best. I'll go hike. I walk with my five pound best. And I. What I will say because, you know, I can't talk about traders too much, but what helped me was my fitness level. I'm not sure I could have done it if I hadn't been consistent in my fitness my whole life.

[B]

Well, everyone else was much younger, weren't they?

[A]

Yes, they were, Harry.

[B]

Like in their 20s and 20s.

[A]

20 years.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, by 40 years.

[B]

By 40 years. Okay.

[A]

Yes, two of us were, the three of us were the oldest and you.

[B]

Were quite a bit older than the other two.

[A]

Well, we were 20 years older. Dorinda and I were 20 years older than the oldest other person which was 41.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So anyway, what I can say is my consistency to my fitness was real helpful.

[B]

So you think all these things combined, your workouts, your barbersterm, all these tinctures and all the salves and balms and stuff that you put on your body and then your diet, you combine all those things and you get Lisa rinna at age 60 something and you look like you're 30 something, so.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I mean I do, I think it's a combination of all of it and I do get myself.

[B]

What about attitude? Where does attitude come in high?

[A]

I am, I would say, a very positive, mindful, joyous person.

[B]

There you go. Okay, so.

[A]

And I think that also helps me, but I also think stretching your body and being limber has a lot to do with youth. Keeping yourself young to do that more.

[B]

Because I. The one thing I don't do, which I see you stretching and I've said to you on numerous occasions, my God, if I did that I would have to be hospitalized or they'd have to put me in an ambulance and take.

[A]

Guys, I'm telling you, even if you just little baby like.

[B]

Okay, she's got standing up right now and she's doing.

[A]

A. I literally stretch my body constantly.

[B]

I Gotta do that. I gotta get more into it. Because when I got the herniated disc, when we were doing the tour of Dancing with the Stars, the neurosurgeon said, you'll never touch your toes again. And so for the last 15 years, how long ago did we do Dancing with the stars?

[A]

2006.

[B]

The tour.

[A]

2006 or seven.

[B]

Okay. So anyway, so.

[A]

Long time ago, Harry.

[B]

A long time ago. So I had a herniated disc. I couldn't. I haven't tried to touch my toes in that number of years.

[A]

Everyone, if you can do one thing right now, if you can go to yoga class, run. If you can just get on your floor while you're watching TV and stretch your body, try to touch your toes, spread your legs and try to stretch forward. Everything you can do to stretch your body is the key to youth, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, and I'm not an expert, but.

[B]

And when you're working out, you got to work out. I mean, it's no pain, no gain is something we've always heard. But there's this thing they're selling on TV right now where they say it's the easiest workout you've ever.

[A]

Oh, that little thing with your feet.

[B]

With your feet where you're sitting at your desk pedaling something on the ground. Oh, you don't have to really work at this. Did you get a great workout? No. You don't.

[A]

I'm sorry. Listen, we work hard. This doesn't just happen. I think we both work to keep ourselves, you know, for me, it's like, I just want to feel good.

[B]

Me, too. That's the whole point.

[A]

If I look good, it also makes you feel good.

[B]

It's a bonus. They're looking good. Is a bonus. Because you were talking about me not eating chips and stuff like that. If I eat chips, I feel terrible, so.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So I don't want to walk around feeling terrible. I want to walk around being positive and light and feeling good. So everything that I do is really for that. Because, as I said, if I'm nice, you're going to be nicer to me. Remember that? When I said that Oprah thing, it was like, listen, if I feel good, I'm going to be nice. And then if I'm nice, you're going to be nicer to me. I don't even know how I said it, but it was poignant. Well, you got to feel good. Well, you got to feel good.

[B]

The love you get is equal to the love you give. Isn't that a great Beatles Line. Yes, I think it is, and it's very true.

[A]

Because if you feel like shit, you're going to be pissed off and depressed and angry, and if you look like, you're not going to be happy either. So I think it's a combo. I do as. As superficials that might be. It makes me happy to look good. If I think I look good, I feel good. And if I feel good, then I'm going to be nicer.

[B]

Okay, so these are all the little tips you have out there for how to feel good and look great.

[A]

We just gave it to you and there it is. There's no secret potion. There's no secret, like.

[B]

Well, you have your way and I have mine, which are kind of. Really.

[A]

Which are totally different.

[B]

Yeah. Because I don't eat any supplements. And your life is all about stuff you put on and put in. And I'm about not putting anything on. Anything in.

[A]

And wearing the same jeans every single day.

[B]

I wear the same jeans. Yeah. A lot. Because they fit really nicely. Yeah.

[A]

And I can't wait to buy new jeans constantly, which. These are so cool. I love.

[B]

I know. You just like to buy stuff.

[A]

No, I just love. I love fashion and I love creating. And when I see something cool, I can't help myself. So that's why I have to continue to work.

[B]

Yes, you have to continue to work.

[A]

I have to continue to work because.

[B]

That'S one way to deal with it. Yeah. Okay. That's one way to deal with it. Yeah. Make more money so you can spend more money. Well, that's one way to deal with it. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Why not? Anyway, thanks, guys. I mean, I hope that helps. We're not experts, so if you're going to start something, you know, you should always check with your doctor first. I've heard that many times. Like, if you're going to try something, check with your doctor first.

[B]

I don't think you need to check with your doctor about eating healthy food.

[A]

Well, no, but like, maybe if. Doing yoga or stretching. If it. If maybe something you shouldn't do.

[B]

Oh, you mean physically. Maybe you should check with your doctor.

[A]

Check with your doctor before you do anything. You know, if you think that you shouldn't ask your doctor first because again, I'm not an expert, but I. We're sharing with you what works for us.

[B]

There you go. Yeah.

[A]

And I do have a lot of products. And then Eve can post, like, what's in my bathroom. How about that? That's what I'll do. Eve.

[B]

Even better.

[A]

And then people can go and buy whatever they want.

[B]

Yeah, and if you buy this, if you buy Harry's Famous sauce, by the way, the. The ingredients are all completely.

[A]

Is that like a bad omen that just happened? What just happened? I don't know. I don't like that, though. Or maybe it's Lois. Lois is just like. Okay, you guys, shut up. Time to go.

[B]

Anyway, Harry's Famous. It'll, you know. Eat this. You'll be fine.

[A]

There you go. Bye.

[B]

Bye, everybody.

[A]

Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.

[B]

And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss anything.

[A]

Yeah, and if you liked what you.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

And I'm HarryRhamlin on Instagram.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So see. See you next week.

[A]

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