Reacting to Your Pop Culture Hot Takes

Summary

Podcast Summary: Let's Not Talk About The Husband – "Reacting to Your Pop Culture Hot Takes"

Release Date: August 8, 2025
Hosts: Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin

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Introduction to Pop Culture Hot Takes

In this episode titled "Reacting to Your Pop Culture Hot Takes," hosts Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin delve into various contemporary pop culture phenomena, offering their unique perspectives with humor and candidness.

The Phenomenon of Labubus

[00:37] Lisa Rinna:
Lisa introduces the concept of "Labubus," describing them as "little furry animals" that have surged in popularity over the past decade. She humorously compares them to "a Barbie for grownups," emphasizing their versatility in accessorizing.

[01:40] Harry Hamlin:
Harry adds to the discussion by highlighting the staggering number of Labubus enthusiasts, mentioning a friend who owns "50 plus" Labubus adorned with designer outfits from brands like Prada. He remarks, "that's what we're told," expressing his amazement at the trend's rise.

Understanding Rage Baiting and Its Societal Impact

[04:07] Audience Question:
The hosts address a listener's question about their thoughts on celebrities using rage baiting to garner clicks.

[04:17] Lisa Rinna:
Lisa admits, "I do that without trying to do it," referencing moments from her time on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" where she may have inadvertently provoked strong reactions.

[04:30] Harry Hamlin:
Harry elaborates on the concept, stating, "This is all a product of the Internet and social media," and expresses deep concern over its potential to "destroy civilization."

[05:16] Lisa Rinna:
Agreeing with Harry, Lisa shares her personal struggle, saying, "I was horrified at myself for doing it," and emphasizes the negative feelings associated with intentional rage baiting.

The Dangers of Social Media and TikTok Addiction

[12:42] Harry Hamlin:
Transitioning to social media, Harry discusses his absence from TikTok, likening it to an elaborate distraction akin to an adversary's strategy to undermine America's creative prowess.

[13:08] Lisa Rinna:
Lisa concurs, describing TikTok as "a distraction" and "an addiction," highlighting its pervasive influence on daily life.

[14:39] Harry Hamlin:
Harry warns of TikTok's pervasive reach, stating, "you have to be free," while Lisa shares her contentment with staying off the platform, despite its integration into their businesses.

Favorite Shows: "The White Lotus" and "Real Housewives"

[29:46] Hot Takes Segment Begins:
The hosts move into a segment where they react to listeners' hot takes and unpopular opinions.

[33:00] "The White Lotus" Discussion:
A listener claims to dislike the first two seasons of "The White Lotus" but loves the third. Lisa vehemently disagrees, asserting, "I love every season of 'The White Lotus,' period," and praises its brilliance and unique storytelling.

[33:44] "Real Housewives" Insights:
Another hot take challenges the hype around "Friends" and "Grey's Anatomy." Lisa defends both shows, reminiscing about her interactions with cast members like Dorinda in "Real Housewives of New York City." She shares personal anecdotes, including her children's admiration for the show and her collaborations with cast members.

Personal Shopping Experiences and Family Influence

[22:05] Shopping as a Family Sport:
Lisa recounts her childhood experiences, describing shopping trips with her mother as a "sport." She shares memories of frequenting places like Macy's and her father's bargain hunting adventures, humorously noting, "that's me trying to find a bargain."

[25:22] Maintaining Independence:
Lisa reflects on her determination never to let others dictate her purchasing decisions, inspired by her mother's disciplined shopping habits. She passionately states, "I will never, ever in my life let a man tell me whether I can buy something or not."

Creative Projects and Future Plans

[05:25] Creating Positive Content:
Concerned about the prevalence of negativity in media, Harry and Lisa reveal their ambition to create a half-hour comedy show aimed at bringing joy and positivity. Harry shares his excitement about an upcoming project, "The Jewel of Minos," describing it as "a brand new way to make people happy in the theaters."

Closing Thoughts and Final Interactions

[42:43] Final Remarks:
As the episode winds down, Lisa and Harry encourage listeners to subscribe, leave reviews, and engage with their social media accounts. They reiterate their commitment to focusing on positive and joyful content, concluding with their signature line, "let's not talk about the husband."

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Notable Quotes

• Harry Hamlin:
  "[05:17] I think it's gonna destroy civilization. I think human civilization is at risk of being destroyed by this."

• Lisa Rinna:
  "[12:50] I just keep them in my purse. And I love the raspberry."
  "[22:02] I just think that's always gonna help everybody. Help buy my sauce, hit the jackpot somewhere."

• Harry Hamlin:
  "[14:06] TikTok is a waste of time."

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Conclusion

In this engaging episode, Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin navigate through a myriad of pop culture topics, from the whimsical trend of Labubus to the serious implications of rage baiting and social media addiction. Their blend of personal anecdotes, critical insights, and lighthearted banter offers listeners a comprehensive look into their perspectives on modern entertainment and societal trends.

Transcript

[Lisa Rinna]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.

[Harry Hamlin]

And I'm Harry Hamlin.

[Lisa Rinna]

And this is let's not Talk about the Husband.

[Harry Hamlin]

We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell. And on this podcast, we're gonna own it, baby.

[Harry Hamlin]

Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to let's not Talk about the Husband, even though I'm sitting right here.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, I like this pop culture question thing. So we're going to continue it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, the one we did last time?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, we're going to continue it because I have some more Labubu information.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, new Labubu information. Do we need to go back and explain what a Labubu is?

[Lisa Rinna]

Would you like to.

[Harry Hamlin]

I didn't know what a Labubu was. Would you like to explain who don't know what is.

[Lisa Rinna]

What it is?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, you explained to me last time that a labuba is a little furry animal about that big. And what I found out since then is that they actually were introduced in 2015, which is 10 years ago. So it took 10 years for these little creatures, these little things, to become the hottest thing in the world. And you explained to me the last time that there's some kind of pyramid of what's hot in the world. And the Labubus are even hotter than Hermes and Cartier and all that stuff. The hottest thing in the world. This little thing that costs 40 bucks, we think. We're not sure which probably cost a dollar to make. So it's got a huge markup, and it's a gigantically popular little useless item.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, I was.

[Harry Hamlin]

Am I wrong?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, I don't have one yet.

[Harry Hamlin]

What does it do?

[Lisa Rinna]

Nothing.

[Harry Hamlin]

Does nothing.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, but you can.

[Harry Hamlin]

Useless.

[Lisa Rinna]

You can buy clothes for it. You can dress it. So it's kind of like a Barbie for grownups.

[Harry Hamlin]

So they're all the same? They all look the same?

[Lisa Rinna]

They all kind of. No, no, no, no.

[Harry Hamlin]

Buy clothes for them.

[Lisa Rinna]

They look different.

[Harry Hamlin]

How can you buy clothes from one to another when one has legs and one doesn't?

[Lisa Rinna]

No, they all have the same body, but I think their faces change. Some of them are crybabies.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh. And things like that water thing in them. You can squeeze them and tears come out that.

[Lisa Rinna]

I've not gotten that far. I'm still learning. I'm still Labubu learning. But I did.

[Harry Hamlin]

What's the latest Labubu news?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, I Asked my friend Isaac, who is the one that kind of has been educating me on what these things are and who really probably has the biggest addiction of anybody in the Labubu world that I know. So I just texted Jeffrey, his husband, and Isaac, and I said, we're just curious. We're talking about Labubus on the podcast. And how many Labubus does Isaac have right now? Drumroll 50 plus.

[Harry Hamlin]

50 plus. Where do you put them?

[Lisa Rinna]

And just open two more. Three more. Jeffrey says I have outfits for all of them. He says he has two secret ones and needs one more. You can get secret ones. I don't know what it means, but he has 50 of them.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, what kind of outfits for all of them? Designing the outfits. A major designer, well, he's got a.

[Lisa Rinna]

Little Prada outfits for one. He's got, like, a Prada bucket hat.

[Harry Hamlin]

So Prada makes. Makes little Labubu clothes. All these big designers are starting to make clothes for these little creatures.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's what I'm told.

[Harry Hamlin]

You gotta be kidding me.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not.

[Harry Hamlin]

So are they doing Labubu couture?

[Lisa Rinna]

Labubu couture.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. All right.

[Lisa Rinna]

And Isaac is in the forefront of the Labubu couture. He said he has clothes for all of them, so that means he has dressed 50 Labubus.

[Harry Hamlin]

So 50 do we. So Prada is making some clothes for. Is Balenciaga making clothes for Booboo? Is Chanel making clothes?

[Lisa Rinna]

I mean, I know Prada is.

[Harry Hamlin]

I am now, like, thoroughly educated on the Labubu situation, but is there new Leboo news?

[Lisa Rinna]

That was it, really. So now we can move along.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, now we can move along. We can move past Leboo.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, yeah. We can go to more pop culture y things.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, well, I'm out of the loop on pop culture, so educate me.

[Lisa Rinna]

We're going to educate you. Okay, what's next?

[Unknown]

Okay, so we got a bunch of questions from your audience on pop culture topics, so how about this one?

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay.

[Unknown]

What are your thoughts on celebs? Rage baiting for clicks.

[Lisa Rinna]

What's rage baiting? Okay, I don't even know what rage baiting is.

[Unknown]

I have the definition here.

[Lisa Rinna]

What is rage baiting?

[Unknown]

Okay. Rage baiting is a manipulative online tactic where content creators intentionally provoke anger or outrage in their audience to increase engagement and views.

[Lisa Rinna]

What?

[Unknown]

This can involve posting inflammatory statements, sharing controversial opinions, or creating content designed to trigger strong reactions.

[Lisa Rinna]

See, I do that without trying to do it.

[Harry Hamlin]

This is all A product of the Internet and social media. And people finally realize that this whole idea of followers and popularity online, at first it was like if you did something real, if you created some content that was really cool. Yeah. You got followers and you got interested. And then people began to realize that you could get a lot more followers by just all saying something nasty. You don't have to say anything. You have to create anything real. All you gotta do is, like, challenge reality and say something stupid.

[Lisa Rinna]

So what do you think about it?

[Harry Hamlin]

I think it's horrible.

[Lisa Rinna]

I do, too.

[Harry Hamlin]

I think it's gonna destroy civilization. I think human civilization is at risk of being destroyed by this.

[Lisa Rinna]

Really?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yes, I do. I do. I think this is gonna get out of control to the point where up until now, human beings have had outlets for their expression, and those outlets have been fairly static.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like what?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, painting, writing a book, writing a song, making a movie, creating a movie, creating a TV show, all those things that we used to have. Our way of expression took time, effort. And in order for it to be recognized as something worth looking at, it had to be good, had to be something that had some kind of resonance in the world. Right. It had to reflect our human condition in a way that was somehow positive, that gave us a boost in some way. And then people discovered that actually you can get more attention by being crass, by being relatively stupid, inane, crazy. The crazier the better. And so that has become the thing. And now we've got this way to communicate that is instantaneous and global.

[Lisa Rinna]

Global.

[Harry Hamlin]

And it's instantaneous and global.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

So the reach is global. I honestly feel.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, it's really dangerous. I agree.

[Harry Hamlin]

It is so dangerous that it could actually be the thing that takes down human civilization.

[Lisa Rinna]

Geez, Harry, that's a big, big, big statement.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, look where we are.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know.

[Harry Hamlin]

Look where we're headed. Look what's happening in the world.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know.

[Harry Hamlin]

Is this happening just because we've evolved to this place, or has technology helped it to evolve to this place?

[Lisa Rinna]

Technology has helped it to evolve.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. So there. There you go. That's my answer to that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, it's. You know, for me, you know, I had an experience with it that I didn't mean to do it. Like, I didn't rage bait. I just raged. Like when I was on Housewives, I had moments where I just did it because I felt that, but I would never. Like, I was horrified at myself for doing it. So I can't imagine doing it on purpose.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you remember any specifics of any specific Things that you did. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like just. I just would say. Well, I would say how I feel about Bravo. Or people. Or people I'm working with on my show.

[Harry Hamlin]

You were reacting to something that you felt.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

Rather than creating something out of whole cloth that you were just creating in order to get people to look at you.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes. This was not that. This was just to, like, react and get it.

[Harry Hamlin]

You were reacting. You weren't just creating a train wreck for train wrecks.

[Lisa Rinna]

I can't imagine. I was just a train wreck, period. But I wasn't creating the train wreck for train wreck's sake. So I can't imagine doing it on purpose.

[Harry Hamlin]

But that's what everybody's doing.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know, but that's what I'm saying. I can't imagine it because it was horrifying.

[Harry Hamlin]

The whole world has gone down that particular route.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know, but I don't understand it because it feels so bad. It feels bad.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, that's why the whole world's feeling bad. Right. That's why Labubus are so punished popular right now, because they're kind of. They're innocuous.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know. And they make you kind of feel good.

[Harry Hamlin]

You feel a little bit good. So they're popular. But meanwhile there's all this sludge out this sewer sludge that's being spread all.

[Lisa Rinna]

Around the world, and you cannot feel good. I felt so terrible when I was in that place reacting and. And having that happen. But imagine doing it on purpose. You must really feel bad.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, the world's in pretty weird shape right now, and people are capitalizing on this negativity and they're finding there's a revenue stream to be had through the negativity. And as soon as you find that out and people begin to explain, you're.

[Lisa Rinna]

Getting money from it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. I mean, people are making tremendous amounts of money by being completely and utterly negative and just yucky.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. It's not good. It's not good for the planet. It's not good for our psyches. It's not good for our souls.

[Harry Hamlin]

So that's why we're creating a half hour comedy show. We haven't told anybody really about it. We are creating a half hour comedy show because people need comedy.

[Lisa Rinna]

We need joy. We need some kind of form of an outlet of good instead of an outlet of negativity and shame and badness. That's why I like my dance videos so much.

[Harry Hamlin]

And that's why people love them. People love those things.

[Lisa Rinna]

They're stupid.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's a moment to look away from the train wreck.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know.

[Harry Hamlin]

You know, because basically if you look outside, it's a train wreck going on out there.

[Lisa Rinna]

So we're not for this. We don't really like this rage bait. I don't like this idea and I hope that it burns itself out because I don't think it's good for the people doing it and I don't think it's good for the people watching it.

[Harry Hamlin]

To it's a bigger danger than I think people realize.

[Lisa Rinna]

I agree. Because it's like you go down the rabbit hole and then how do you get out?

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[Harry Hamlin]

You know, since you had your castle experience, you haven't been on TikTok at all, right? Like, not at all.

[Lisa Rinna]

Not once. Okay, not once.

[Harry Hamlin]

So. And what does that feel like, not going on Tik Tok.

[Lisa Rinna]

Fine.

[Harry Hamlin]

And what did it feel like before when you're on TikTok? Was it like, oh, I'm on TikTok, and I can spend hours just drifting through this, like, place that they're setting up for me? Because that's what they're doing. The algorithm is setting up for you your experience, which you're going to enjoy because it knows what you like to look at.

[Lisa Rinna]

It just was a distraction that. It's like an addiction that happens that, you know, you just do it.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's like golf. Okay. I've always said that golf could be. If you could look at it as if there was some foreign adversary that wanted to take down America's specialness in terms of its technological hegemony. The ability for us to create and create new stuff and fill the world with the kind of stuff that the United States has filled it with for the last 60 or 70 years, which means the great technological, know how great movies, great books, or whatever we do in the United States, that makes us great. If you were an adversary and you wanted to slow us down, you would create something for humans to do that would distract them from the one thing that they love, that was creative, and that would be golf. I mean, golf takes up so much time, and all these smart people are out on the golf course. I mean, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Maybe, you know, TikTok is kind of the same thing.

[Lisa Rinna]

TikTok is definitely.

[Harry Hamlin]

TikTok is a waste of time. Well, so if you were an adversary and you wanted to waste Americans time, you would create this thing. Yeah. And by the way, TikTok is unavailable in China, just so you know.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's inaccessible to mainland China. I know that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Right.

[Lisa Rinna]

And it's filled with conspiracies and things that you see and you don't know are true. And now with AI, it, it's just. It's too much like you don't know what's real and what's not real. And I think it's fucking everybody up.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well. And yet it's one of the most popular things in the world.

[Lisa Rinna]

And listen, I think that people that have been able to grow their businesses and help support their families, I'm all for That. I think that's wonderful. But I have not ever been happier than not sitting there on my phone scrolling. I'm fine with it. Fine with it. Not going to go back probably for a while. I'm just not going to go back.

[Harry Hamlin]

You might go back.

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't know. I can never say never. I mean, I have somebody going there when I have to post for, like, business stuff. Because now when you do a job, they want TikTok as part of your job. They do.

[Harry Hamlin]

I know. And you know, I don't.

[Lisa Rinna]

They want TikTok.

[Harry Hamlin]

I don't have TikTok. I don't have followers. And so I'm one of these people on the outside, you know.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know you are.

[Harry Hamlin]

They want, they want, they want. They hire you for an actor. They hire you not for your talent anymore, but for how many followers you have.

[Lisa Rinna]

They hire you for your numbers. That's just the game.

[Harry Hamlin]

I know. So, okay, so I'm not going to be working much.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, you are working just fine. You know, Harry's one of the only people that does not have social media and does not go on it and does not look. And he's one of the happiest people when it comes to that.

[Harry Hamlin]

When it comes to that. Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Not everything else, but when it comes to that, he's really happy and blissful and naive because he has no idea. And we're all slave to it because, you know, for me and for the girls, it's very much part of our business. You know, like, I just launched the bump, the Bumble and Bumble campaign today. It's all social media.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Period.

[Harry Hamlin]

And, and this. And my business, Harry's Famous Sauce. I mean, we, we rely on tick tock and social media and all that. I mean, I don't do it. I. But you know, the company, the Open Food Company, does it. I, I refuse. I, I'm sorry.

[Lisa Rinna]

You should stick to that, Harry, because you are free and we are all slaves. So be free.

[Harry Hamlin]

I mean, I.

[Lisa Rinna]

Be free, Harry. Be free.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I have always chosen the freedom aisle, you know, whether it was signing a contract for this or that, I always. I have to be free. I have to be able to be. To manage my time the way I want to.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, guess what? You're the only one I know on the planet that has that. So enjoy it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, I'm going to enjoy that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Enjoy it. We'll fill you in when we need to. All right, what's next?

[Unknown]

Okay, Lisa, here's a question for you.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay.

[Unknown]

I need to hear your top Five Drag Race girls.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, well, that's pressure.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you have a top five Drag Race girl?

[Lisa Rinna]

I gotta.

[Harry Hamlin]

So.

[Lisa Rinna]

I mean, I love Bob the Drag Queen.

[Harry Hamlin]

And this is Bob the Drag Queen, who's on Traitors.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

I love Monet X Change. I love Jimbo. I love Sasha Colby. Love Jinx Monsoon. I love Angeria Paris Vacation. It's too hard to name five, really. But, you know, I love. I. I love Drag Race so much that I watch it for pure joy. And I've also learned a lot in how to do makeup. I learned from those queens how to do makeup. They know how to contour and beat the death out of your face. It's really good.

[Harry Hamlin]

Beat the death out of your face.

[Lisa Rinna]

Beat your face to death.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. I remember we talked about this on one podcast.

[Lisa Rinna]

Really good. Yeah, really good.

[Harry Hamlin]

Beating your face to death.

[Lisa Rinna]

You want to beat your face down. So you got really good makeup.

[Harry Hamlin]

I'm so happy. I know about that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. Anyway, okay, next.

[Unknown]

Okay, next question. Why is Hollywood so obsessed with making reboots and remakes? What are your thoughts?

[Harry Hamlin]

Money.

[Lisa Rinna]

Cash.

[Harry Hamlin]

Cash. It's like, no. I mean, they're so afraid of making something that doesn't work. You know, I mean, you've got the studios, which are now owned by conglomerates, and they have bottom lines, they've got boards of directors, and they've got shareholders, money. And those shareholders want to see money, money, money, money, money, money. And they don't want to take any risks. And they say, well, that movie made this much money when it came out, when it first came out, we can make at least maybe that much on the second one. So. Yeah, because of fear. That's why it's fear. They're afraid to do something that won't make money. Anything novel, anything new that doesn't have some kind of provenance, something that was successful before is too big of a risk for Hollywood to take.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. But then they slip through every once in a while and get those great movies that become Oscar winners and little movies. So they still have those.

[Harry Hamlin]

Most of the time, they're trying to just make something that they think worked before. So, yeah, that's why. But my movie is going to be different. The Jewel of Minos. It's a brand new way to make people happy in the theaters.

[Lisa Rinna]

There you go.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. Just something that I've been working on for a long time.

[Lisa Rinna]

For, like, how many years?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I'm not going to say exactly how many, but I can say that I did have a reading, a stage reading of this movie. Several weeks ago. And the ovation was so long at the end that I had to stand up and stop it.

[Lisa Rinna]

Are you kidding?

[Harry Hamlin]

I'm not kidding.

[Lisa Rinna]

You didn't tell me that. Yeah, I wasn't here, otherwise I would have been there.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, well, it was really special. It was great. So, yeah, it's coming up. Everybody.

[Lisa Rinna]

You know, you never know. We said this the other day. You know how you, like, think one thing's gonna be the thing? Or, like, if I do this, this could be the thing, or if I do that, this could be the thing that really hits. It's usually the thing that you would never expect. I think that usually hits in one's.

[Harry Hamlin]

You never know. Career, right?

[Lisa Rinna]

I think so.

[Harry Hamlin]

We're just. We're creative, so we can't stop. We just creating stuff. Whether it's movies or books or songs.

[Lisa Rinna]

Or lip gloss or sauce or whatever.

[Harry Hamlin]

It is, we just keep creating. I know. We can't have qvc.

[Lisa Rinna]

We just keep cranking it out.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, well, in this day and age, you got to diversify. Well, anyway, so we used to. We used to be able to make a living as an actor, but I was looking at the inflation charts. Okay, so what I was being paid on la.

[Lisa Rinna]

Is there an inflation chart?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, sure. You can. You can see how much a dollar was. How much a dollar would be worth today. It was worth in another year. So in 1986, I was paid X number of dollars to do LA Law. Yeah, right. Okay. Now I'm doing a new show on AMC and I'm paying Fair Witches. I'm paying X number of dollars for that. But it's, it's, it's. It's.

[Lisa Rinna]

You're not paying for it, they're paying you.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's five times more than I was being paid in 1986 when I did LA Law. But it's less money because of inflation. Because of inflation. It's less money by value than it was then. So I'm being paid less 40 years later in a show for AMC than I was being paid in 1986.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, there's something wrong with that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, it just means you can't live as. Make a living as an actor anymore. So. Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Anyway, we're not gonna. We're not gonna play our little violins because we are very blessed and very grateful.

[Harry Hamlin]

No, it's just for having our careers this long, you know, reality of inflation is pretty amazing.

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't like to look at that, and I don't want to really know, actually. So I'll let you handle that I'll stay oblivious to that you can stay oblivious to social media. I don't wanna know that stuff. I wanna think that I'm more valuable than I am.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. Okay. So that means you spend more money than you actually have.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, that's always gonna be the truth, I think, for me.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

I just think that's always gonna help everybody. Help buy my sauce, hit the jackpot somewhere. It's in my DNA. My mother taught me how to shop. It was the sport in our family.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's right. You have told me that it was a sport.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm telling you. The joy that we got with, like, six, we'd leave Medford, Oregon, and we'd go visit my grandmother in San Francisco. She lived in Albany.

[Harry Hamlin]

The big city.

[Lisa Rinna]

The big city. We would go the next day to shop. My whole life was built around the joy of shopping. I swear to God, that's what we did as a family, as a sport. Now, I didn't know it at the time. I just was like, cool. This is what we do. Like, my mom and I would go to Imagin and go to Union Square and shop around, and my dad would, like, try to find a Kmart and go bargain hunting.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's me. Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's me trying to find a bargain.

[Lisa Rinna]

And then we'd go have lunch. We'd split up. My mom and I might go have lunch, and then my dad would meet us back up, like, three hours later. We did that my whole entire childhood.

[Harry Hamlin]

And what would you do with all this stuff?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, we didn't really ever buy that much. It was, like, about hunting and looking because we weren't super wealthy. We. We were middle class. My mother always bought something and returned it the next day. That was the sport.

[Harry Hamlin]

She did that till the day she died, by the way.

[Lisa Rinna]

Did that till the day.

[Harry Hamlin]

She wasn't supposed to drive. She lived in that home in Medford, Oregon, and she wasn't supposed to drive, but she kept her car in the basement and she would sneak out even during the pandemic.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, that's when she wasn't supposed to leave.

[Harry Hamlin]

She wasn't supposed to even leave the building. She would sneak down in the middle of the night and get in her car and drive out. And then she would somehow make it to Macy's the next day.

[Lisa Rinna]

Go to Macy's. She buys something and then inevitably take it back the next day. I think it was the way she was social because she would get to know the salespeople and she'd get to go out. It Was her joy. My mother loved to shop more than even I do.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I've been to a few stores where the storekeeper said, oh, hi, Lisa. Welcome back. So. So I know that you've done the same thing.

[Lisa Rinna]

Of course, I was taught by the greatest shopper of all time. And my mom, Remember, I've told you this. I haven't told them this. My mom would never buy anything unless my dad okayed it. So she would have to, like. Let's say we went shopping and remember, he went his own way to go get something.

[Harry Hamlin]

He would like to look at galleries, at art galleries and paintings and stuff like that.

[Lisa Rinna]

But he also tried to find Bargain Hunt. So then three hours later, we'd meet, and she would have found, let's say, a jacket. So we would have to go show him the jacket. If he didn't like it, she wouldn't buy it.

[Harry Hamlin]

How often would he say, I don't like that?

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm going to say 50. 50.

[Harry Hamlin]

Really? So he had a voice.

[Lisa Rinna]

And I'll never forget sitting there going, I will never, ever in my life let a man tell me whether I can buy something or not. I won't ever do it. I mean, it was such a. Yeah, you've.

[Harry Hamlin]

You've kept to that one. Absolutely.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's a very strong reaction I have because I watched my mom never, ever say, you know what? I'm just gonna get this because I love it. I mean, you can see I get a physical reaction.

[Harry Hamlin]

But wait, when you up and now, you know, stylists are bringing you clothes now, but before, I always ask you the stone. You always ask me before you.

[Lisa Rinna]

But I would never listen to you.

[Harry Hamlin]

If you said, yes, you did.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, I do. I know it's true.

[Harry Hamlin]

No, of course you did. There were times when you'd have a choice between three.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, yes.

[Harry Hamlin]

It was only when you were getting, like, the big dresses, like you were going out, and like, we were going out, and we were going to be on a red carpet. So when you say, hey, does this one work? And you always listen to it.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, but you can see where my reaction comes when I go shopping. I do not need to ask anybody, should I get this or not?

[Harry Hamlin]

You've never been shopping with me. We have never been shopping together as far as I know.

[Lisa Rinna]

I would not put you through that torture. Really? I've been shopping with you for your stuff, but I would never.

[Harry Hamlin]

You've never invited me to go along shopping for your stuff, ever.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, it's because of my PTSD from growing up. I Think, okay.

[Harry Hamlin]

And also, I. I would be sitting there watching you spending money, and I.

[Lisa Rinna]

Go, you would hate that. It would be horrible for our marriage. So anyway, that's. You got some of my history of shopping's a sport. And that's where we got joy going shopping. So that's where that goes back to.

[Harry Hamlin]

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[Unknown]

Next, let's move on to sort of a new topic, which is we had people submit their hot takes and unpopular opinions.

[Lisa Rinna]

Great. I love that.

[Unknown]

So I'm gonna read some of them and you guys can react. Let me know. Do you agree? Do you disagree?

[Lisa Rinna]

Some. I love this.

[Unknown]

Okay, first one. I'm so over Prince Harry and Meghan. Like, over.

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't have any feelings about them other than they don't bother me. What about you?

[Harry Hamlin]

I don't think about them. I've thought about them a little bit. Because they used to live not far from us. That's correct.

[Lisa Rinna]

When they first came to town.

[Harry Hamlin]

When they first came to town, they rented a house adjacent to our property, and they lived there for some time. And I. I'll never forget. During COVID It was during COVID and. And there was one day, all of a sudden, there were all these helicopters in the sky near our house. And I'm going, why are those helicopters hovering over that house? And it was because they had been found out.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. That was.

[Harry Hamlin]

They'd been discovered.

[Lisa Rinna]

So I. I thought Tyler Perry let them stay at that house. It was his house.

[Harry Hamlin]

At his house?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes.

[Harry Hamlin]

Up in the. Oh, that's that property. Yeah. Where? Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yep. Don't say where it is, but.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, but owned by Tyler Perry.

[Lisa Rinna]

And he let them come and stay in it. Yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

So. Yeah. And then also she had a cooking show, and since I have a cooking show, people were sending me comments about her cooking show, which apparently didn't go over too well.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm not sure why people are so mad about her, to be honest. They're mad about her.

[Harry Hamlin]

I never saw Suits, so I don't know much about her other than the fact that she's now married to Harry and she was on this show, Suits, which was a law show. Right. I mean, some of them.

[Lisa Rinna]

She was on for, like, a while too. She's an actor. I don't know. I personally don't follow that much. And I don't quite understand, I guess more than anything is why she gets under people's skin so much. Cause she does.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I'll tell you, if I think about Harry and Meghan, I have a sensation of empathy or sympathy toward them. The first thing that comes up is, oh, I'm sorry that they're going through this.

[Lisa Rinna]

Me, too.

[Harry Hamlin]

That this is happening to them. And where that comes from, I don't really know. But that's the first sensation I get is, oh, it's too bad they're having to go through that. Whatever.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. Because it really suck, you know, like, they get a lot of shit thrown at them for. I'm just not sure quite why. I mean, I know, you know, when the King abdicated.

[Harry Hamlin]

You're talking about the abdication. Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Of course.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

That was a huge, scandalous moment.

[Harry Hamlin]

Right. So it was.

[Lisa Rinna]

They were basically. They had to go live in the Bahamas for a while. I remember, like, they were, like, shunned. This reminds me of that. Because Harry didn't want to, you know, participate anymore.

[Harry Hamlin]

Far down the line in the chain. That's why he wrote the book called Spare. Because he's the spare.

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't know. I just. I wouldn't.

[Harry Hamlin]

I read his book.

[Lisa Rinna]

You did?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. And it was interesting. I listened to it. It was interesting to listen to him speak about his life. Yeah. But there's nothing there that I would. There's no take home from.

[Lisa Rinna]

But I don't really understand the hate machine towards them. I will say that I don't quite understand.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's why I feel sympathy toward them. And that's the only sensation I have is little sympathies.

[Lisa Rinna]

I just. I don't quite understand.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you think you guys are okay?

[Lisa Rinna]

I hope so, too. I think they're happy in their life in Santa Barbara. I think, you know, as long as they're happy, that's all that matters. With your kids, be happy.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

All right.

[Harry Hamlin]

I wish them all the best.

[Lisa Rinna]

Me, too.

[Unknown]

Okay, next hot take. I did not like season one and season two of the White Lotus, but I loved season three.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, well, I disagree because I love every season of the White Lotus, period. I love season one. I love season two, and I love season two.

[Harry Hamlin]

How could you not like season one and season two? Season three was fine, but it was, you know, season one was amazing.

[Lisa Rinna]

They're all so brilliant and different. I do not agree with that and never will.

[Unknown]

So do you have a favorite season of the three?

[Lisa Rinna]

You work with Alexandria.

[Harry Hamlin]

So I, of Course, like season one, because Alexandria is my daughter.

[Lisa Rinna]

I like them all. I like them all in their own way, like my own children. Like one's like Amelia, one's like Delilah. I just love every single piece of dialogue that comes out of their mouths that Mike White writes.

[Harry Hamlin]

How do you feel about it?

[Lisa Rinna]

Directs. And I fricking die for that show.

[Harry Hamlin]

Really? Okay, so she dies for White Lotus.

[Lisa Rinna]

Die for it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Die for every season of it. Think it's fucking brilliant. Think the music is amazing. I've danced to two of the songs. I haven't danced to the new one yet, so maybe I need to. I just think they're.

[Harry Hamlin]

You'll have to find me on doing something somewhere.

[Lisa Rinna]

We haven't done that in a while. You know, I thought of that today. I had this weird dream last night that I told you somebody took my purse. And I was so distraught because, you know, you have to get all your credit cards and your license. But I was so mad because I have this wallet that I bought in Hong Kong that I really love. And I have this little mini, tiny Louis Vuitton bag that I got in Hong Kong that I love. And I was heartsick in my dream that I had this purse stolen and couldn't find my wallet and my freaking Louis Vuitton bag. Oh, that was my dream.

[Harry Hamlin]

But that little, tiny Louis Vuitton bag. My pill bag is airtagged.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, it's not.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, it is.

[Lisa Rinna]

This one is not.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, the Louis Vuitton bag.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, this is what I lost in my dream. This little tiny. This is where my pills are.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, you got another small bag.

[Lisa Rinna]

And then this was my wallet that I got in Hong Kong. Okay, wait, this is a good story. We went to Hong Kong for housewives. Both of these items. I don't remember getting either one because I had taken a Restoril and woke up and went.

[Harry Hamlin]

And you went shopping while you were under the influence.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. I don't remember buying either one of them, but they are my pride and joy. Both of them.

[Harry Hamlin]

Their pride and joy.

[Lisa Rinna]

I love these things. Yeah, Yeah. I hardly remember it because I was jet lagged and took Restoril and. Well, anyway, don't take them. Please don't steal my bag. I just, like, gave it up. I'm like, now I can't carry it anymore. Now I have to hide it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. Do you think somebody's going to come for you on the street and steal the bag maybe? No, I think you're okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Anyway, what was I saying? I went down a path. I don't know what I was saying before that.

[Harry Hamlin]

I'm talking about White Lotus.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, right.

[Harry Hamlin]

You know.

[Lisa Rinna]

But why did I go to my purse? I don't know.

[Harry Hamlin]

I don't remember why you went to purse, but you clearly you would like to be on I Would Die.

[Lisa Rinna]

Are you kidding me? Please. Yeah, I would just go serve coffee or something. I don't know. I just want to be around. I don't know. I don't want to feel desperate and be desperate, though. But I would love to do a show like that. Yeah. Yes, I would.

[Harry Hamlin]

But you know, remember you go to an island where it's really, really hot somewhere for like eight months. For eight months for no money. It's hard, you know? Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

So how do you know it's for no money?

[Harry Hamlin]

Because it's, it's.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know everybody gets paid the same.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's favored nations and it's.

[Lisa Rinna]

I hate favored nations.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

Favored nations means everyone gets paid the exact same.

[Harry Hamlin]

And it's not enough to live on.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's never that much.

[Harry Hamlin]

You know, I, they. Maybe they pay for your room service or something.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, I'm sure they cover. Yeah. Anyway. Okay, what's next?

[Unknown]

Next hot take. The TV show Friends is not worth the hype. And neither is Grey's Anatomy.

[Harry Hamlin]

I never saw Friends. I've never seen one episode of Friends.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know Harry's never seen one episode of Friends. I think Friends does live up to the hype. And I never watched Grey's Anatomy enough.

[Harry Hamlin]

We watched the first season of Grey's.

[Lisa Rinna]

Anatomy, which was great.

[Harry Hamlin]

And that was years and years and years and years.

[Lisa Rinna]

And I filmed across the studio from them when I filmed Soap Talk.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's right.

[Lisa Rinna]

They were there and they've been on for 20 some odd years. So something's good about it, right?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, it has to be good because it was on for so long. We watched the first season and then that was it.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. I don't know why. We had kids then. We had kids.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's right.

[Lisa Rinna]

So when you have kids, you miss a chunk of life.

[Harry Hamlin]

A big chunk of life.

[Lisa Rinna]

And tv.

[Harry Hamlin]

But Friends, the girls watch. Our kids have watched. Even though it was off the air before they were born.

[Lisa Rinna]

The kids watch. You know what the kids watch now? I think this is always interesting to talk about. Like what the, what the. Are they? Gen Zers. Gen Xers? Gen.

[Unknown]

I think Gen Z.

[Lisa Rinna]

You know what they watch right now? Delilah and Amelia watch Love Island.

[Harry Hamlin]

But everybody watches Love Island. It's like the biggest thing ever, right?

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't. Neither do you but neither one of.

[Harry Hamlin]

Us love watches it. But I'm reading in the paper that.

[Lisa Rinna]

It'S, like, number one.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's like. It's like. It's adventure TV again. It's like people are, like, gathering around.

[Lisa Rinna]

And there's a US version and a British version.

[Harry Hamlin]

Right.

[Lisa Rinna]

So they love it. And then you know what else they're watching? You know what Amelia's watching?

[Harry Hamlin]

I have no clue.

[Lisa Rinna]

The OG seasons of Real Housewives of New York City. She's watching the early days back in the day.

[Harry Hamlin]

Really? You're kidding.

[Lisa Rinna]

She can almost quote them. Oh, yeah, she.

[Harry Hamlin]

She loves it, like, season one, like, 20 years ago.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, like all the. The very. Like, all the beginning. Like, she's so in love with Jarinda right now. And, you know, I just got to work with Dorinda, and we were in so funny. Delilah was packing to go to Ibiza, and she goes, look what I got Emelia for her birthday. And she literally holds up a T shirt with Ramona's face on it when she's walking down the Runway at her fashion show. It's all this iconic stuff. So there's a T shirt in our house, Ramona, with your face on it. And they were dying over it. They. They die. And I go, well, you know, if you guys ever want to meet them, I can. You know, Luann, we can go have a drink with her or something and whatever. Anyway, I'm very cool right now because I know them.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, God. Really? Okay. So who knew that the Real Housewives would rear its ugly head again years and years later?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well. And These are the OG's OGs. They were good.

[Harry Hamlin]

When I say ugly, I don't mean ugly. No, I mean, it was.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, it's a challenging show to do.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's challenging. Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's what you can say. It's a challenging show, but the girls are watching it. Well, Amelia especially loves it. Loves it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Who knew that that would happen?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. And now that I've worked with Dorinda, you know, Dorinda has a place in the Berkshires. Berkshires. Anyway, Dorinda has this place, a castle. It sounds like that she lives. She has, like, a big home that she had with her husband. You know, her husband passed away.

[Harry Hamlin]

Did not know that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Maybe he was a speechwriter for Bush or Obama.

[Harry Hamlin]

One of those presidents. One of them.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, don't fact check me is all I can say. Just, you know what? Go along with our podcast. But I don't think it should be fact checked. That's all I'm going to say. But anyway, she has this house that every. They've filmed at it a lot. Everyone that now knows that I have worked with Dorinda says, do you think we could ever go there? Everybody wants to go to Bluestone Manor now that they know that I worked with Dorinda.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, well, maybe we can get an invite.

[Lisa Rinna]

I mean, my publicist, Jeffrey, was like, you could get us that for our wedding gift. I'm like, I'm not sure that I can make that happen for you for your wedding gift. Go to Bluestone Manor, but.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, you mean for like a weekend or something?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. And you know what?

[Harry Hamlin]

Adrinda move out for a weekend because.

[Lisa Rinna]

Jeffrey, she'd love to have him. She is a hostess.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, she'd love it. Oh, I literally could go anytime I want now. Like, if we want to go, she's the one that said to me, lisa, please, would you send me Harry's sauce so I can make lasagna with it? And I said, absolutely. So the minute.

[Harry Hamlin]

So she's gotten the sauce.

[Lisa Rinna]

She's got the sauce.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, so she's gonna make. We don't have any feedback yet on it.

[Lisa Rinna]

No. Cause she just got it. She posted that it was on its way. That's the first thing she said to me when. When I. Well, not the first thing. Maybe the third thing. When I met her, you know, when we were in the castle and she wanted your sauce, and I said, I will get you his sauce and you can make lasagna. She's a real cook and she loves to entertain. She loves to serve. And so if we wanted to go to Bluestone Manor, we could.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, tell her I'll cook.

[Lisa Rinna]

I love her. You guys would cook away and have the best time.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, good. Okay. Well, here we go. Hey, everybody. Thanks.

[Lisa Rinna]

That was fun. Yeah, don't fact check me, though.

[Harry Hamlin]

Thanks for coming by.

[Lisa Rinna]

Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.

[Harry Hamlin]

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[Lisa Rinna]

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[Harry Hamlin]

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[Lisa Rinna]

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[Harry Hamlin]

And I'm HarryRhamlin on Instagram.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's right.

[Harry Hamlin]

So see you next week.

[Lisa Rinna]

Until then, let's not talk about the husband.

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