Spring Cleaning: Unpacking Our Family Legacy

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Spring Cleaning: Unpacking Our Family Legacy"

Let's Not Talk About The Husband
Hosts: Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin
Episode Release Date: May 23, 2025
Episode Title: Spring Cleaning: Unpacking Our Family Legacy

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Introduction

In this heartfelt and humorous episode of Let's Not Talk About The Husband, Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin delve into the complexities of managing their family legacy, the emotional attachments to their personal belongings, and the perennial struggle with storage spaces. Balancing tales from their extensive careers with intimate glimpses into their married life, the duo offers listeners a candid look into the challenges and joys of maintaining a shared history.

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1. Family Legacy and Personal Keepsakes

The episode opens with Harry showcasing some of his treasured items that symbolize his family's legacy:

• Family Photograph ([02:03]): A picture capturing a joyful family vacation, serving as a constant reminder of cherished memories.

• Saturn V Rocket Replica ([02:22]): This replica honors Harry's father, a pivotal thrust engineer for NASA during the Jupiter and Saturn V rocket programs. Harry explains the technical significance of the F1 engines and their evolution from the Jupiter program.

• Fighter Figure ([02:36]): A memorabilia piece from Harry's first movie, Movie Movie, despite its damaged state, symbolizes his enduring fighting spirit.

Lisa contrasts with her own legacy items:

• Designer Bags and Diamonds: Reflecting her bold and vibrant personality.

• Father’s Paintings ([04:36]): Watercolors and oils created by her father, now scattered throughout the house and garage, represent artistic legacy and familial bonds.

Notable Quote:
Harry Hamlin ([02:22]): "This is a copy of the Saturn V rocket... It reminds me to have a fighting spirit at all times."

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2. Emotional Attachment to Belongings

Both Lisa and Harry express deep emotional connections to their possessions:

• Handling Grief and Memories ([05:39]): Lisa discusses the overwhelming task of going through her parents' belongings, stored away since her mother's passing. The emotional weight makes it difficult to confront and organize these items.

• Digital vs. Physical Storage ([06:03]): They ponder the practicality of maintaining physical archives like VHS tapes and photo albums in an increasingly digital world. Harry questions the necessity of preserving items that are seldom revisited.

Notable Quote:
Lisa Rinna ([05:39]): "I was just in the garage and I saw my dad's paintings lined up... I have to go in there at some point."

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3. The Battle with Storage Space

A humorous yet poignant story illustrates their challenges with storage:

• The Supermodel Storage Takeover ([23:09]): Harry recounts how a supermodel, having been evicted, mistakenly used their storage space, filling it with magazines featuring herself. This incident underscores their ongoing struggle with managing excess possessions.

Notable Quote:
Harry Hamlin ([25:05]): "She said, 'Oh, well, you know, the truck had been driving down the street that day...' and she had taken over our storage space completely."

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4. Spring Cleaning and Letting Go

Determined to declutter, Lisa and Harry discuss actionable steps:

• Accountability Through the Podcast ([27:08]): By airing their storage woes, they aim to hold themselves accountable and motivate listeners to address similar issues.

• Charitable Garage Sale ([28:19]): They propose organizing a garage sale where proceeds would go to charity, such as the LA Fire Department. This approach not only helps them declutter but also benefits a worthy cause.

Notable Quote:
Lisa Rinna ([28:19]): "We can get rid of this shit. All the money... goes to a charity of our choice."

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5. Insights into Their Personal Lives

The conversation shifts to their children’s achievements:

• Children in the Spotlight ([32:01]): Lisa shares that their daughters are attending a Vogue Italia party in Milan, highlighting their successful careers in the fashion industry. They discuss the dynamics of sibling competition and mutual support.

Notable Quote:
Lisa Rinna ([32:07]): "Our kids are living the life. It's so true."

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6. Competition in Relationships

Lisa and Harry explore the concept of competition within relationships:

• Spousal Competition ([34:00]): They reflect on past experiences where one partner’s career success led to competition and tension, emphasizing the importance of mutual support and celebrating each other’s achievements.

Notable Quote:
Harry Hamlin ([35:07]): "It's a zero sum game. You can win, you can lose, it doesn't really matter."

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7. Superstitions and OCD

The hosts share their personal superstitions and discuss mental health:

• Superstitious Practices ([40:14]): Both Lisa and Harry reveal various superstitions, such as avoiding stepping on cracks and not walking under ladders. Harry humorously outlines specific rituals actors follow to avoid curses.

• Lisa’s OCD ([44:30]): Lisa opens up about her struggles with OCD, detailing how certain thoughts compel her to perform specific actions to avert perceived disasters. They highlight the importance of managing mental health through self-awareness and support.

Notable Quotes:
Harry Hamlin ([40:55]): "I have to stop them, put my hands on their shoulders, spit on their left foot, and then turn them around three times."
Lisa Rinna ([43:59]): "I have to throw this away before I leave, but I have to do it in the second trash can, not the first one."

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Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Lisa and Harry reaffirm their bond and commitment to navigating life's challenges together. They encourage listeners to reflect on their own lives, declutter both physically and emotionally, and support one another through mutual understanding and love.

Closing Thoughts:
Lisa Rinna ([38:07]): "Our biggest challenges can be our thoughts."
Harry Hamlin ([46:39]): "I learn every day from them [their daughters]."

Listeners are left with a blend of laughter, relatable struggles, and inspiring resolutions, encapsulating the essence of Lisa and Harry's enduring partnership.

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Connect with the Hosts:

• Lisa Rinna: Instagram | TikTok
• Harry Hamlin: Instagram

Subscribe to Let's Not Talk About The Husband for more candid conversations every Friday.

Transcript

[Lisa Rinna]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.

[Harry Hamlin]

And I'm Harry Hamlin.

[Lisa Rinna]

And this is let's Not Talk about the Husband.

[Harry Hamlin]

We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell, and on this podcast, we're going to own it, baby.

[Harry Hamlin]

Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hi, everybody, and thanks once again for checking into let's Not Talk about the Husband with me and Lisa.

[Lisa Rinna]

You have so much stuff here. It's making me nervous a little bit. It's getting a little bit.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, but it's good. Let me get the water out of the way, because you probably should, you know, my daddy's rocket, tell the people.

[Lisa Rinna]

About it because it's like there.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. So one of the things I like to do when whenever I go on location, I always take a few bits and pieces from home and I surround myself with those things just to kind of bring a little home away from home. Right? Yep. So here, when we do the podcast, since we're not in our house, which we might be at some point, I like to bring a couple things that are very meaningful to me. The main one, of course, is the picture of our family when we were on vacation somewhere and we were having a jolly old time jumping up and down for the camera. And then I also like to bring, because this is a copy of the Saturn V rocket. This is a rocket that my father worked on. He was pivotal thrust engineer for NASA back in the 50s and 60s and helped develop the rocket engine for what was called the Jupiter program at that time, but then evolved into the Saturn V. And so the engines that are on the bottom of the Saturn V, see, there are five engines on the bottom. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1 in the middle. Those are the F1 engines. And those engines all evolved out of the Jupiter program over a period of time. And then I also keep this guy, this little fighter. Okay. So my first movie that I ever did was called Movie Movie, and I played a fighter in it. And so I got this during the filming of that movie. Or somebody, maybe the first AD gave it to me.

[Lisa Rinna]

But why is half of his face gone?

[Harry Hamlin]

Half of his face got. I don't know.

[Lisa Rinna]

Did a dog get it? I bet a dog got it.

[Harry Hamlin]

I think probably the dog got it.

[Lisa Rinna]

The dog ate it.

[Harry Hamlin]

You know, not necessarily me, but he's got red lips and stuff. But anyway, I keep that because it reminds me of. To have A fighting spirit at all times. And then, and then.

[Lisa Rinna]

Is this your. Oh, one more thing.

[Harry Hamlin]

So this is. Okay, so this is a little flying pig. And this is here because this company, Trialpha Energy or tae, as it's explained on the back of the pig was, is the most longest running privately funded fusion energy company in the world which I helped establish in 1998. And we are hoping over, we spend 27 years so far, but we are hoping to develop a whole new way to make electricity for the world that is completely pollution free and non toxic and inexpensive and ubiquitous and will last for hundreds of thousands of years and keep the lights on for that amount of time without polluting the environment. That's TAE usa.

[Lisa Rinna]

And they basically say it'll happen when pigs fly.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's right. They always say fusion will happen when pigs fly.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's part of it.

[Harry Hamlin]

This is our, our logo.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's also a really nice stress thing. So let me like if I was over here getting really stressed out and anxious, I would just go like that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Exactly.

[Lisa Rinna]

Squeeze it.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's a multifaceted dual use tool.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yep.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. And then one more thing, one more thing is. Okay, so this is the first sauce that Harry's Famous has made. So this is Harry's Famous, this is rosemary red wine sauce and the Open Food company, which I made with my niece. We put out these sauces and our whole go goal in life is to put out food, not just sauces, but eventually food that is completely clean, absolutely non toxic, without any chemicals and no preservatives and something that you can count on to be really, really scrumptious, really good and at the same time make you healthy. So that's the point of that.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's like a Harry Hamlin infomercial today.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I mean this is all right, it's us, it's your legacy, my legacy, the family's legacy altogether. So these are some of our legacy items.

[Lisa Rinna]

Legacy items, yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

Because these things are deep.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, my legacy items are like diamonds and bags and I mean, is that the same thing? If I brought like some of my prized bags here and put them up, like what the hell would my legacy items be?

[Harry Hamlin]

I don't know. Some of your dad's paintings perhaps, because.

[Lisa Rinna]

You'Re not so perhaps my dad's. Perhaps.

[Harry Hamlin]

His father was an amazing painter. Yeah, I mean, what an artist he was.

[Lisa Rinna]

He really was an amazing artist. He could sculpt watercolors, oil. He was a beautiful, beautiful artist and a great person.

[Harry Hamlin]

And he, we have a lot of his paintings.

[Lisa Rinna]

We do all over the house. And I have a bunch in the garage. You know, I still have, you know, when my mom passed. Once my mom passed, you get everything, you know, then everything. Like.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, the kids usually divvy everything up. There's usually that moment in time when everybody goes to the house and they go, oh, I want this. You want that. I'll take this. You have that, whatever.

[Lisa Rinna]

So then you end up with everything, and it's all in the garage. Because I could only bear to go through a box and take a couple things out. I haven't been able to face it yet. And I'm sure people that have lost their loved ones and lost their parents can relate that. I was just in the garage and I saw my dad's paintings lined up, and there's a whole. There's like, two cabinets filled with the boxes from my mom and dad's house. And I'm gonna have to. I'm just gonna have to go in there at some point.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you really think. Do you have to go in there? Is this something that you need to do? Because it's a little bit like. So one of the cabinets in our garage is filled with videotapes of our careers. Yeah, VHS and VHS and big Beta.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like, what the fuck are we gonna do with those? We have to digitalize them.

[Harry Hamlin]

I haven't even opened that cabinet in five or 10 years. And in that cabinet is stuff that goes back to the 70s.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know we really.

[Harry Hamlin]

And I'm sure it's all degraded by now. I mean, I've got the show. I did Space, a beautiful miniseries for NBC back in the day. I'm not sure whether if I tried to watch that stuff, because back from 1983 or 84, would that even be there? Is there anything there on the tapes anymore?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, I don't know, but I think what we need to do is get somebody who digitalizes that sort of thing and just go and take it all there, because it takes up a whole closet cabinet.

[Harry Hamlin]

This goes back to the boxes from your parents. Why do we keep that stuff? Are we really ever gonna go and look at it? I mean, do we have a picture in our mind that, oh, maybe when we're bedridden, when we're in our 90s, we'll ask somebody to bring that stuff to us, and we'll go through it and look through it all and go, oh, I did that. I did that.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, I have to do it before that. There are pictures. There are photo albums or things that I probably want closer to me in the house. But at the time, I couldn't bear it too much.

[Harry Hamlin]

But where are these things going to go ultimately? Are they going to end up in albums that are going in a display?

[Lisa Rinna]

There are albums. That's what I'm talking about.

[Harry Hamlin]

Where are they going to end up?

[Lisa Rinna]

I know they end up in the, in the, in the garage. They end up in the cabinet with the albums.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, but that cabinet gets opened once every 10 years. We don't actually look through. I mean, every once in a while someone will say, do you have a picture of Amelia or Delilah?

[Lisa Rinna]

And by the way, we do, because our nanny at the time, Emma, took 45 bajillion thousand photos of those kids.

[Harry Hamlin]

This is back when you actually developed pictures.

[Lisa Rinna]

And we have so many photo albums of those girls doing everything.

[Harry Hamlin]

At least 50 photo. I've been. I went through them last year because somebody asked if they could if we had a picture of the kids with like spaghetti sauce on.

[Lisa Rinna]

And you did, because you found them. I saw.

[Harry Hamlin]

I found a couple of pictures. But the only reason I would ever go back and look at those things is because somebody said, or I said, I've gotta find a certain specific picture.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Harry Hamlin]

So why do we have them?

[Lisa Rinna]

I used to do that as a kid. Now this is before social media and before everything. I. My mom kept the albums in a closet and I went to them all the time as a kid. As a kid to look at my life and my childhood.

[Harry Hamlin]

But would you do it now?

[Lisa Rinna]

No.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

Because I have the stupid phone.

[Harry Hamlin]

We have the phone. It's not a stupid phone.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's a stupid phone.

[Harry Hamlin]

We don't. We don't actually publish pictures anymore.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, we don't print them out.

[Harry Hamlin]

So they sit in a digital file somewhere forever. Every once in a while they live there. And then when someone says, hey, remember that time you go, oh, yeah, I got a picture of that.

[Lisa Rinna]

And I got to go through 6,000.

[Harry Hamlin]

Photos you've got to go through. Unless you put them in albums, but still, the albums, there's so many albums, so almost impossible to go through them. And then Apple changes the interface and you go, wait a minute, how do I find my pictures? I mean, it's a little bit frustrating, but not so much. But my question is, why do we have all these things in boxes, in the storage and in the garage and all that when we're never really going to go through them? Shouldn't we just take it all and go, bye, bye, see you later?

[Lisa Rinna]

Throw it away? Yeah, but I can't yeah, that's the thing.

[Harry Hamlin]

You can't do it.

[Lisa Rinna]

Can't do it. It's my legacy of my family, and I can't do it. It has to have a place. And I only took certain. I took a few things that are in the house that mean so much to me, and I think it's kind of okay. It's like, you don't have to have a lot, but I have my touchstones that every day I look at and I think of my mom or my dad or. And it's enough.

[Harry Hamlin]

And we have those in the house.

[Lisa Rinna]

We do.

[Harry Hamlin]

Our house is filled with touchstones now, which you love to move around a little bit. And that's great because you get it just right.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's very good for my ocd.

[Harry Hamlin]

It really does.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's so helpful for me.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's the one thing where we can always guarantee that you've got some kind of focus for your ocd.

[Lisa Rinna]

I just need to move it a little tiny bit, and then it's. And everything is okay in the world. Like, if I am talking to you and I see that my little baccarat butterfly is a little tiny bit off on the shelf, I get up and I move it just a tiny bit. Fucking fixes everything, does it, really?

[Harry Hamlin]

If you could bottle that and sell it and we could make a fortune, you know. No more Xanax. You just gotta move a little butterfly and the world is good.

[Lisa Rinna]

Everything works out. I just need to move it. And as long as everything's in its.

[Harry Hamlin]

Place, I know we'll be having a conversation. And I'll see your eyes fixate on something up on a shelf somewhere across the room, and I'll be talking to you, and you're fixating more, and all of a sudden, you'll get up and walk across the room while I'm talking to you. Happens, you're back to me, and you'll move the little picture frame, whatever it is, maybe just a tiny bit, an eighth of an inch, and I'll say, oh, that's better.

[Lisa Rinna]

And I want to kill you when you say that. When you say that to me, like, I just want to murder you. Because it's. It's like, shut fucking up. I know what I'm doing.

[Harry Hamlin]

I want a conversation. And up you get. And you walk over and you move it the slightest little, but it makes.

[Lisa Rinna]

Such a difference for me. Why wouldn't you just, like, go, oh, that's so nice, because it helps her so much. Instead you go, oh, that's better. And I want to murder you.

[Harry Hamlin]

But until you just met, until you described it just now, I didn't have any idea of how great a psychological impact that has on you.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's very big.

[Harry Hamlin]

Now I know. Now I know how big that is. And I will, from now on, I will never say, oh, that's better again.

[Lisa Rinna]

I would appreciate that because you've said it so many times that you're lucky I didn't have, like, a big fat knife sitting next to me. Okay, we'll go back, we'll deal with the grief and the boxes in the garage. At some point, people now know they're there. So we'll figure it out.

[Harry Hamlin]

And they're not worth anything, by the way.

[Lisa Rinna]

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[Harry Hamlin]

Talking about, you know, storage spaces and all the, you know, like, for example, those, the. The videotapes that we have in our stor storage locker in the garage. Like, I, I now know that there's a. There's a good chance I will never, ever, ever look at any of those things. And there's no reason to have them anymore because everything's digitized now that we would ever have to look at.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, that stuff goes wrong, but here's the problem. Here's our. Our problem is we have lived in this house for 32 years and not moved. Now, most people move, and when you move, you have to get rid of things. Our biggest issue is that we have lived. It's a great issue to have, but our biggest problem is that we have so much shit because we have not ever moved.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, that's true. We haven't moved. And speaking of moving, okay, so I was on a hike the other day, and who did I run into on the hike?

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't know who?

[Harry Hamlin]

Corbin Bernstein and Amanda, his wife, and then invited Corbin over for dinner and he came over for dinner.

[Lisa Rinna]

Who you did LA Law with?

[Harry Hamlin]

I did LA Law with Corbin for five years.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yep.

[Harry Hamlin]

Corbin and Amanda have moved 28 times since we did that show.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes. They're really good house flippers.

[Harry Hamlin]

They're house flippers and they have flipped houses 28 times.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay. And so we, on contrast, have lived in the same house and not moved for 32 years. So here's my new idea. Here's my new idea as I'm hiking today. Now, this would be a very ballsy, risky thing for us to do, but I kind of like ballsy, risky things now. You'll never go for it, but I'm gonna present it. So when I'm walking down the hill and I walk by Alex Trebek's old house that they have sold and they're building this massive compact.

[Harry Hamlin]

Right?

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, so what if. Because I think we could do this, it might end our marriage, but I think we could do it if we literally tore everything down at our house and created a compound like we're watching build, do it our way, however we want to do it. It doesn't have to look like that. We could then turn around and sell our house for $25 million easily on our property. And I kind of love the idea because I have never gotten to do that. I moved into your home, which I was fine with.

[Harry Hamlin]

So you want to build a house?

[Lisa Rinna]

No, not necessarily. But I built Belgrade with you, but I've never gotten to build a space with you. I moved into the house in LA and the house in Canada. All yours. I think there's still something in me that needs to do a house. I know there is. So whether we do it at our house or we buy a house and we do it and we flip it, I think I need to have that experience.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, well, it almost killed me to do that to build that house 30 years ago. 32 years ago.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, that's really great.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, building a house is challenging, but.

[Lisa Rinna]

I mean, I think people will also be curious. I'm curious if people go, oh, no, she. You need to create a house. You have to. I mean, I've only been able to, like, do a few tweaky little things at our house.

[Harry Hamlin]

And they've been brilliant. The tweaky things that you have done.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes. But listen, I. Here's the thing that I think keeps us together. I don't push that. I could, at most women would push. I'm not living in this fucking 1980s kitchen anymore. They'd push it, and they would fucking push you. I let you have your fucking 1980s kitchen. It's not that I'm mad about it at all.

[Harry Hamlin]

What? Listen to her.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's a fucking old kitchen. I am itching. But how to reduce.

[Harry Hamlin]

How much do you cook?

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't cook.

[Harry Hamlin]

So who cooks in the kitchen?

[Lisa Rinna]

That's why I let you have it. But here's the thing.

[Harry Hamlin]

You let me have it.

[Lisa Rinna]

I do.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

I let you have it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Thank you.

[Lisa Rinna]

Because I could really throw a fucking fit if I wanted to. I really could. Most women would be like, you know what? You know what? I am not living in this kitchen anymore. I want a new sink. I want a new. For refrigerator. I want to update it. And I have fought with you about this for what, since the show aired? So, 10 years.

[Harry Hamlin]

And my. And my standard thing is, well, are you cooking? Who's. I'm the one who's cooking. But also, it's not a 1980s kitchen. It's more like a. It's a. It's a forever kitchen. I built it using Pierre du.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's a 1980s kitchen. Folks.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, what's. What's 1980s about it?

[Lisa Rinna]

It. The tile. Go look at the tile. It's 1980s. Now, listen, I have been able to deal with it, and I go through it, and I'm in that kitchen as much as you are every day. Do I cook? No. So that is the argument that wins for you. Because I can't very well say, well, I want this kitchen redone, but I don't cook. It doesn't kind of work, but there you go.

[Harry Hamlin]

I need you to know you just satisfied your own argument right there.

[Lisa Rinna]

I need you guys all to be witnessed that I'm itching to redo this home in some way. Now, I love our home. I think it is so cozy and yummy. But I'm itching. I'm itching. You gotta give me, like, a room or two.

[Harry Hamlin]

I'm giving you some calamine lotion for your itch. That's what I'm gonna do.

[Lisa Rinna]

Just give me, like, a room. Like, give me. Give me the family room. And then maybe.

[Harry Hamlin]

But you got the. You did it already. You did the family room. So you guys do it again. You want to do it again? You can do it again.

[Lisa Rinna]

I already have ideas.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, good. Okay, let's do it.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm just itching to do a couple rooms, and I need. It's almost like I need permission, and that's not right. But see, that's why I need my own home. I think that's why I need.

[Harry Hamlin]

You didn't have your own home. You bought your own house. Remember that?

[Lisa Rinna]

I had it for fucking two weeks. My own house.

[Harry Hamlin]

Did you ever spend a night in that house?

[Lisa Rinna]

Five days. That house was a problem. Okay, here's the thing. I bought this house, my first house.

[Harry Hamlin]

And the reason you bought it was really because you were. The same. Kind of argument was going on. It's not my house. I don't want to move in with you. And necessarily.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, I needed to. I needed to go through that and buy a house because we weren't only just starting.

[Harry Hamlin]

Is it the same kind of need? You have, like, itch. You had to buy a house. You have an itch now to, like.

[Lisa Rinna]

This is a much bigger itch.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, this is a bigger itch.

[Lisa Rinna]

Much bigger. That I just. I. I had money, so I knew that you had to buy a house with your money. I had money for the first time. Anyway. What we didn't know is that house had a bad leak in it, and the bedroom was wet and smelled like mold. It's not good.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

I would have really gotten sick.

[Harry Hamlin]

And it was a particularly wet year that year, as I recall.

[Lisa Rinna]

It was awful.

[Harry Hamlin]

And the house was in a. On a. At the end of a street, kind of on a hillside. And it was dark, didn't get a lot of sunlight.

[Lisa Rinna]

It was depressing. It was cold, it was moldy and. Anyway, so that was your house experience.

[Harry Hamlin]

We had that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, but Harry, that was 32 years ago. I'm just saying I think it's time. We're gonna have to do something to where, like we redo something. I need to do that somehow. So we're gonna have to figure that out.

[Harry Hamlin]

We'll figure that out. In the meantime, we've got a storage space full of stuff that we never look at.

[Lisa Rinna]

And why do we still have that?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, that's a very good question.

[Lisa Rinna]

And why are we paying for that?

[Harry Hamlin]

Let's talk about storage spaces. Because people have these storage spaces. We have a friend, you know, I'm a billion.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm actually going to get in the storage space business because that is where you just.

[Harry Hamlin]

I mean, we have a friend who owns public storage, right?

[Lisa Rinna]

We do.

[Harry Hamlin]

And. And they're billionaires, right?

[Lisa Rinna]

So.

[Harry Hamlin]

So. And that's because we're pack rats, essentially human beings. We can't throw shit away.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know. I mean, there's nothing in that storage space that we will ever use again.

[Harry Hamlin]

But there's stuff in there that's valuable. So you go, do I just throw this stuff away? I mean, there are paintings in there that are worth a lot of money.

[Lisa Rinna]

There's a time thing too. So who are you going to do it? You going to go in there and do it?

[Harry Hamlin]

No, I know, but that's why these guys who own storage space companies may have billions of dollars because that they know the whole thing. So the way it goes in our. In our life is we go out, we buy shit.

[Lisa Rinna]

It goes.

[Harry Hamlin]

Or the basement goes in after we're done with it. It goes in the basement of the garage and then it sits in there for a few years and we go, oh, man, the basement's too full of stuff. Let's put it in the garage. Oh, the garage is too full of stuff. Let's put it in the storage space. And now the storage space is too big. We better get another one. So then you've got, then you've got two storage spaces.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, we got to tell. We have to tell the storage space story now that we' it so good. So we had a neighbor on our street for a while. We have to tell this because now we're going into storage space territory.

[Harry Hamlin]

Dovetails with the modeling world as well.

[Lisa Rinna]

It does dovetail with the modeling world. So we had a supermodel, actually, the first supermodel. We won't say the name yet. We had the first supermodel living on our street, renting one of the houses, Right. And we were taking stuff to storage for whatever reason at that point. I don't remember.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, we had. We were moving stuff, furniture. I had hired a moving company. We were taking stuff from one place and putting it in storage. And so there was a moving truck.

[Lisa Rinna]

Where were we moving it from?

[Harry Hamlin]

I think we. Maybe. We didn't have a lot of stuff. It might have been the store, but it was furniture. I remember it was some furniture. So I had to rent a truck. I had to hire these guys who had a truck, and they had to come to the house, and the truck was empty. It was only, like, one piece of furniture. But it was such a big piece of furniture that I had to hire.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like, a big oak table or something. I want to say, okay, so they.

[Harry Hamlin]

Came and they got the table. And, you know, I liked these guys. I had used them before. They were kind of friendly. And. And we. I remember packing the table into the back of the truck and then saying goodbye to them as they drove down the street.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

And that was that. And I. And I said. I gave them the combination to the storage space. I said, put this thing in the storage space. And they said, no problem. We'll be gone. And.

[Lisa Rinna]

But so over that was that.

[Harry Hamlin]

And. And then, like, maybe six, seven months later, I had to go to the storage space for some reason, because I don't go very often. So what do I do? I go down and I unlock the door, and I open the door to the storage space, and it is completely filled. I couldn't even put my finger into the sports storage space. It is 100% filled all the way.

[Lisa Rinna]

To the top with, like, furniture and all kinds of stuff, Right.

[Harry Hamlin]

Boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and furniture and everything. I mean, it was filled to the absolute rafters. And I go, that couldn't be my storage space, because I only have a few things in my storage space, you know, And. And I look at the lock, and, yeah, that's my lock. Yeah, that was my combination. And then I look down, and I see that these boxes are all filled with magazines. And I start pulling the magazines out, and there I see on the COVID of every magazine, this supermodel.

[Lisa Rinna]

Like, they're Vogue after Vogue after Vogue. After Vogue. And I remember you calling me and asking me if I knew who person was on the COVID of this magazine.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I mean I. I actually magazine was.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes.

[Harry Hamlin]

She had been on living on our street.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, yeah, but you weren't quite sure because this was a few years earlier in her life.

[Harry Hamlin]

I wasn't totally sure and. But I was now it began to all come together and I. I went back and I confronted her about it. I think she was either still living in the house or had left her dogs in the house. And she had been in.

[Lisa Rinna]

Evicted, I think. I think she moved.

[Harry Hamlin]

But she had left her dog.

[Lisa Rinna]

She left her dog. She had like big.

[Harry Hamlin]

So she had called retrievers to get her dogs who had pooped all over the floors in the house because they just been in there for a while and, and I, I confronted her and I said, excuse me, but why is.

[Lisa Rinna]

Your stuff in my storage space?

[Harry Hamlin]

She. She said, oh, well, you know, the truck had been driving down the street that day and she'd been like evicted from her house and she had to move out that day. And she told the guys who truck that I had given her permission to put her stuff in my storage space. And they never checked with me Smarter.

[Lisa Rinna]

Her, I gotta say. Like, we had no clue for six or seven months.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. That she was just. Had taken over our storage space completely.

[Lisa Rinna]

And gone on with her life and having just no problem whatsoever.

[Harry Hamlin]

So yeah, big, big supermodel, very, very.

[Lisa Rinna]

Famous supermodel coined herself the first supermodel.

[Harry Hamlin]

Is that right?

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

We can figure out who it is. Everybody but came up with the word.

[Lisa Rinna]

I am the first supermodel.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay.

[Lisa Rinna]

So we' Anyway, she's quite clever, I'll give her that. I'll never. I was always like, damn, girl, that was pretty fucking smart. You needed to get your shit moved.

[Harry Hamlin]

But she did take it out.

[Lisa Rinna]

She took, she took it right out.

[Harry Hamlin]

She's taking it right. So I have to give her that much time.

[Lisa Rinna]

She took it right out. She was like, I'm so sorry. Oopsie, oopsie doopsie.

[Harry Hamlin]

And I never charged her for the storage space or anything like that. Oh, listen, no point in doing that. But yeah, I mean that was, that was an interesting moment. But so we have these storage spaces and they, they, they keep kind of growing like a fungus. And so we gotta. That's something we must for spring cleaning this year. How about we get rid of all that junk?

[Lisa Rinna]

Let's do it. I mean, now we, we almost are putting ourselves. What I kind of like about this Podcast is you. You holding yourself accountable when you say this stuff in front of people. Like the five people that are. Are listening to us.

[Harry Hamlin]

Six.

[Lisa Rinna]

Six or seven or eight, maybe even 10. Now all of a sudden, I feel like we're holding ourselves accountable, which I think is good, because other times we'll talk about this, but we never do anything about it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Should we set a date and check back in at a certain date and say we cleaned out our closets? Well, we cleaned out our stuff.

[Lisa Rinna]

That for you would be difficult.

[Harry Hamlin]

You know, there's so much cool shit in there that I think.

[Lisa Rinna]

In where?

[Harry Hamlin]

In the storage space in the garage, everywhere. We could have a great garage sale, but we don't have any place to do it. We'd have to rent a house.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, you can't have a garage sale at your house. Like, you can have people come anymore to your house.

[Harry Hamlin]

No, we couldn't do that.

[Lisa Rinna]

You just can't do that.

[Harry Hamlin]

And plus, where we live, you couldn't.

[Lisa Rinna]

My mom and dad used to have a garage sale at least twice a year. Like, I worked them.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, if there's anybody out there who wants to come and help us with.

[Lisa Rinna]

A garage sale or maybe we'll do it for us. I'm big on that. Like, just come get all the shit, put it somewhere, tag it, and we'll. And. And all the money goes to charity that we pick.

[Harry Hamlin]

Of course.

[Lisa Rinna]

How about that?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. Because I'll.

[Lisa Rinna]

The LA Fire.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, give it to the LA Fire people. I would be happy to do that in a second. I just. I don't have time to organize.

[Lisa Rinna]

Let's do this. If somebody wants to call us, leave us a voice message on our.

[Harry Hamlin]

We need to get rid of some shit.

[Lisa Rinna]

We can get rid of this shit. All the money. I mean, they can take their own little percentage, but all the money that we make goes to a charity of our choice. LA Fire or some kind of. I like that idea and it's motivating to do that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. And there's some stuff in there that could make some dough. A sale orchestrated correctly priced right could make a lot of money.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, let's work on that. But I'm not sure we should put a date. How about before the end of the year? Anyway, I like this idea because then we give the money to charity, we get rid of the shit. Some people end up with some good shit that they wanted and we stop spending. Like, I don't. If we add it up, how much money we spend on that storage space for 32 years, I don't think it would be cute. I don't think it would be.

[Harry Hamlin]

You try not to actually do that because yeah, that would probably, you know, that would be another Xanax or something like that.

[Lisa Rinna]

I just don't think that's a cute idea. But I like this idea. And then it holds us accountable. And then we're gonna figure out like my redoing a couple rooms, which gets me creative and gets me doing things. And I like that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, we like you doing things. We like you creative because when you get creative, great stuff happens.

[Lisa Rinna]

You know, I know when anyone's creative, when anyone follows their passion, great stuff happens. So I like this idea.

[Harry Hamlin]

Your passion at the moment happens to be redoing the kitchen or a family room.

[Lisa Rinna]

I would like to redo the entire house.

[Harry Hamlin]

Your passion is to redo the entire house.

[Lisa Rinna]

House.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay. Well, that's the big nut to declare thing.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, don't you kind of love the idea if we redid it and even, I mean, the kids wouldn't let us sell it. But what if we redid it and flipped it like. And flipped it for $25 million?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yes, but the kids, they do like it there. I know they do. Would like to stay there. They would like us to keep that. They would like that to be a family thing.

[Lisa Rinna]

See, that's another thing going back to like, you know what happens when you're empty nesters and everyone's gone and you're living in a big house and yes, it was lovely to grow up in, but maybe, maybe it's time that you move on.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, the good news about that house is that it's not that big. It's like. It's not a huge, like 12,000 square foot mansion.

[Lisa Rinna]

No, it's cozy.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's cozy and it's doable. It's not one of those houses that when you're an empty nest, you gotta move out of cause it's just way too big.

[Lisa Rinna]

But if we redid that whole thing and made a compound $25 million, well, it could.

[Harry Hamlin]

We easily could make some dough. I'm not. They have to look at the neighborhood. You got to look at the comps. You can't really.

[Lisa Rinna]

15 to 25 million.

[Harry Hamlin]

We'll see. We shall see. Anyway, it's never gonna happen.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's never gonna happen. But I really thought about it as I was coming down the hill today and I looked over at this Alex Trebek compound being built.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, it's quite a.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's a freaking huge.

[Harry Hamlin]

Those people must have a lot of kids because That's a huge house, you.

[Lisa Rinna]

Know, and a lot of money. I think of the money, not so much the kids.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, the square footage per person.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, there's a lot of that buildings in this house. And it's not a huge property, but it's a compound. It's massive. Anyway, I'm fascinated by it. I almost hike by it every day. The kids are both in Milan right now.

[Harry Hamlin]

Whoa. Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

At a party together. How cute. They're at a Vogue Italia party together.

[Harry Hamlin]

Right now as we speak. Yeah, the kids are in.

[Lisa Rinna]

In Milan at a Vogue Italia party.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, wow. That's amazing. Our kids are living the life, aren't they?

[Lisa Rinna]

Our kids are really living the life. It's so true. I luckily, because I like it, I get cc'd on all the emails, so, you know, I still wear my momager hat, but I'm not. I'm not really that much of a momager.

[Harry Hamlin]

She's the latest from them.

[Lisa Rinna]

I just watch. I see everything that's happening, so I know exactly. And every once in a while I'll pipe in. Like, the other day, they got it. They both got the same audition for the same role. For the same role. We can't say what it is exactly, but they both got the same audition. And I literally reached out to both and said, said somebody needs to get this role. They're both reading for the same part.

[Harry Hamlin]

Same part. So does that cause any kind of competition issues between them?

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, I think it will if and when somebody gets the part and the other one doesn't.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, that's gonna happen, Right? It's gonna happen in the fashion world too. One of them's gonna get to walk in a show.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, that's already happened.

[Harry Hamlin]

One of them's gonna get to.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's already happened.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. So how are they doing?

[Lisa Rinna]

They dealt with that nicely.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah.

[Lisa Rinna]

At first it was a little rocky. They've dealt with that quite well. But I think this is a really interesting moment. When I saw they both got the same audition and one of them if. I mean, you know, it's such a numbers game, but what if one of them gets it and the other one doesn't? How's that gonna go over? I think it's gonna be interesting to deal with and figure out.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you think it will inspire them to be more aggressive somehow? Have more ambition? Do you think it will make them disqualify them?

[Lisa Rinna]

No, I think they'll. It'll piss them off that the other one got it. So will that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Will that light a fire under the under the one who didn't get it and make them work harder or make them angry and resentful.

[Lisa Rinna]

Angry and resentful? No, I don't know. I don't think there's much you can do. If somebody's right for a part, they get the part. It's just. It'll be interesting if that were to happen. How we deal with that.

[Harry Hamlin]

The competition thing is very interesting. Not only between siblings, but between couples.

[Lisa Rinna]

You know, I mean, I don't feel any competition with you. Well, do you feel it with me?

[Harry Hamlin]

No, I don't, but I like none. But I have been in a relationship where there was competition before.

[Lisa Rinna]

See, I've never had competition where I.

[Harry Hamlin]

Got jobs and my ex wife didn't.

[Lisa Rinna]

Get jobs and there was competition. Did she get up bent out of shape? Yeah.

[Harry Hamlin]

I'm not gonna say which one, but one of them because I have the note.

[Lisa Rinna]

See, I don't have that issue at all. So I don't ever have to think back. Which husband was it? Was it my first one or my second? For fuck's sake, Harry. Gee, I'm not gonna say which one.

[Harry Hamlin]

Three's a charm, right? You know, you gotta go through a couple things. You have to make some mistakes.

[Lisa Rinna]

I have never ever felt competition with you, ever.

[Harry Hamlin]

Nor should you.

[Lisa Rinna]

How could I?

[Harry Hamlin]

Nor would I with you.

[Lisa Rinna]

But I think that's so weird that your wife felt competitive with you.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, I. Look, I mean, we've. We've kind of sensed it with our kids and their boyfriends and girlfriends, whatever.

[Lisa Rinna]

You know, a little bit, you know.

[Harry Hamlin]

So I mean, it's not. What I'm speaking about is not something totally unusual. I mean, couples do have competition and so do siblings have competition.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, siblings do for sure. I don't think couples should.

[Harry Hamlin]

They should is an interesting word, but I don't doesn't indicate whether it happens or not because it does happen.

[Lisa Rinna]

I think it's weird couples having competition. To me that sounds weird.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah, but it does happen.

[Lisa Rinna]

It does happen. Because you had it with one of those wives ears.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, you know that. Yeah, they were not happy that I kept getting, you know, I was getting lots of work and I was getting lots and lots of attention for the work that I was doing. And there was not so much attention going to that.

[Lisa Rinna]

If you were like getting all that attention. I mean, I love it when you get all the stuff. I'm your biggest cheerleader. I'm the kid's biggest cheerleader. I love my friends when they get jobs. I think it is the greatest Thing I don't understand when people are like, oh, but I didn't get it. Oh, it's not happening to me. Because there's plenty to go around.

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, that's true. There's plenty to go around. I'm not sure that everybody understands that to a lot of people, life is a zero sum game. You know, it's like a. It's, if I get a job, then someone else doesn't get a job. You know, there's only so many jobs to go around. Yeah. And that's. And we have never come from that place and we've taught the kids there's plenty to go around, that they don't have to be competitive with the people out there because there's plenty to go around. It's not a. This is, that is ambition in a career is not a zero sum game. You know, you can win, you can lose, it doesn't really matter.

[Lisa Rinna]

And you do win and you lose and you win and you lose constantly.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. You know, life is filled with ups and downs and that's just the way it is. And careers are filled with ups and downs. We love, look, our career as actors. I mean, you gotta know going in, if you're an actor, you're going to be on top for a few months or a few years, you're going to be on the bottom for a few months. In a few years, you're going to be back on top for a few months. In a few years, you're going to be on the bottom then back. And the top, I mean, just keeps going like that.

[Lisa Rinna]

It's really, you know, I have learned, it's just about tenacity. It's the ones who hang in there the longest that wins. You can't give up. And as much as you get beat down, you just keep going. That's. I mean, people are always like, I.

[Harry Hamlin]

Mean, look at Demi Moore. I mean, Demi Moore, she's much younger than I am, but I remember when she started out and she was hotter than a pistol.

[Lisa Rinna]

19 when she got her role on General Hospital. Yeah, she was 19.

[Harry Hamlin]

And then since then, I mean, she's done amazing things, but then she's done.

[Lisa Rinna]

But disappeared for a while. Downs and ups and downs and now backwards.

[Harry Hamlin]

And Pam Anderson is the same way. You know, you hang in there and something comes along and all of a sudden you're back on top again.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's actually very good advice. Sometimes we can give advice that we have lived and that.

[Harry Hamlin]

You mean here on this podcast?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah, like, we're certainly not podcast Advice. Yeah, it's good podcast advice.

[Harry Hamlin]

Let's not talk about the husband advice.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. Because we're not experts, but we are kind of experts when it comes to that surviving.

[Harry Hamlin]

We're not experts, but we are experts.

[Lisa Rinna]

We're experts at surviving this acting business in this world. We've survived the ups and downs and ups and downs, but we do have a 1980s kitchen.

[Harry Hamlin]

We have a 1980s kitchen that works like gangbusters. And it's beautiful, and it works like a charm. And I know you want a new sink, but the new sink would just look old in a year. So you want a new stainless steel sink. It's gonna look the same in a year. One year. It's exactly the same as the one that's there now. It's been there for 30 years.

[Lisa Rinna]

See what I'm dealing with, you guys? I can't win this one, and I am a winner, and I like to win, and I can't win this, and I have to figure out a way.

[Harry Hamlin]

You just have to relax.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm just not.

[Harry Hamlin]

What? You have to relax and let go. Let go.

[Lisa Rinna]

A possibility, because I can't win it.

[Harry Hamlin]

Let go. Just let go.

[Lisa Rinna]

But my little fighter in me comes up and goes, but why can't you win it? You're Lisa Rinna. You can win anything.

[Harry Hamlin]

You don't cook. I cook. Let go. Let go. Let God, let go. Sat Nam. Satnam. Namaste. Namaste. Let go. Namaste. Harry's in the kitchen doing the cooking. He loves the kitchen.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm going to start twitching. My eyes going to start twitching and my.

[Harry Hamlin]

You're a winner, Lisa. You are.

[Lisa Rinna]

I can't win this one, though. This one I can't win.

[Harry Hamlin]

And I guess we have a game to play, I think. So we get off this and have a game, please, Eve, let's play a game.

[Eve]

Let's do it.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay, that was a good one.

[Eve]

Let's play our trusty old game of Harry's Wheel of Wild Cards.

[Harry Hamlin]

Oh, the wheel.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm gonna get my own Wheel of Wild Cards next, too. All you gotta do is give them mine next.

[Eve]

Let's do it. You know where to find me, Lisa.

[Lisa Rinna]

I do. All right.

[Eve]

I'm gonna spin the wheel.

[Lisa Rinna]

Okay.

[Harry Hamlin]

Spinning.

[Eve]

Spinning. Okay, I have a question for you guys. Are you superstitious?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes.

[Eve]

Okay. What are some of your superstitions?

[Harry Hamlin]

I will not walk under ladders. I will not do that. And other superstitions. Okay, so in the theater in England, there are a lot of theater superstitions. A lot and the latter is still one of them. Even in England, you don't want.

[Lisa Rinna]

And that light. What about the light that they put on the stage?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, you got to put the light on the stage, but I'm not sure. Is that a superstition? That's a safety thing. But it's also just a tradition. It's a tradition that you put the stage light, which is just one pillar with one big light bulb on it, and that goes out on the stage at night after everybody's finished. That's the stage light. And that's every. Every stage does that.

[Lisa Rinna]

Every stage does that.

[Harry Hamlin]

But there's. There's a. A couple of. For one thing, if you whistle in the theater and you get caught whistling in theater, and I'm not sure whether it's. You whistle and get caught. If you just whistle and don't get caught, what the deal is. But if I ever catch myself whistling and I'm in a theater, I've got to stop, spit on my left shoe, and spin around to the left three times.

[Lisa Rinna]

Is that right?

[Harry Hamlin]

That is right. Okay. And if I find somebody else has whistled, I stopped them, put my hands on their shoulders, spit on their left foot, and then turned them around three times.

[Lisa Rinna]

Oh, wow.

[Harry Hamlin]

That's what you have to do to get the curse of the.

[Lisa Rinna]

Have you ever had to do it?

[Harry Hamlin]

Yes, I have. Oh, of course. And also in England, if somebody walks up behind you and you're on a soundstage, you're at the theater and they see. They pick off your back like a long string. The length of the string is how big your next job is going to be.

[Lisa Rinna]

This is so fascinating. I learned something new. Every time we sit here, it's craz.

[Harry Hamlin]

So if somebody comes up and says, oh, you got a little lint on your back, and they pull it off, and it's a long string. That's how big your next job is going to be. And if it's a little tiny thing like that, you go, shit, that's too bad. Well, anyway.

[Lisa Rinna]

But wow, those are good ones.

[Harry Hamlin]

And there's a few more. Actually, you're not supposed to ever say the name of the Scottish play, but that goes at all times.

[Lisa Rinna]

At all times.

[Harry Hamlin]

Not just in the theater, but an actor can never mention the Scottish play. And for those of you out there, he's a Scottish king who has a wife who becomes a murderous wife and induces him. Starts with an M and induces him to have to become murderous king. Yeah. Anyway, so that's the Scottish king.

[Lisa Rinna]

I've always Been superstitious? My mom was very superstitious. So, like, you don't step on the crack because you break your mother's back on the sidewalk.

[Harry Hamlin]

On the sidewalk. Really? Do you still not step on the cracks?

[Lisa Rinna]

No.

[Harry Hamlin]

Really? You always avoid the cracks?

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. Because if you step on the crack, you'll break your mother's back.

[Harry Hamlin]

But your mother's gone.

[Lisa Rinna]

I know that, but it's instilled in me. She's gone, but she's still around. I see her all the time.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, so you're still not stepping on crack?

[Lisa Rinna]

No.

[Harry Hamlin]

Anything else?

[Lisa Rinna]

I won't walk under a ladder.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, that's a good one, I think.

[Lisa Rinna]

Anytime a black cat crosses my car, I don't like that. I don't like a black cat crossing in front of me.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you think that's a bad omen?

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't think that's a good omen.

[Harry Hamlin]

Yeah. So you believe in omens?

[Lisa Rinna]

What's the difference between an omen and a superstition?

[Harry Hamlin]

Well, how about the hummingbirds are a good omen? Well, that's your mom.

[Lisa Rinna]

I see my mom all the time. Okay, yes. That's different. That's a whole different.

[Harry Hamlin]

But isn't that superstition?

[Lisa Rinna]

No, no, no. Oh, no, that's just.

[Harry Hamlin]

So the hummingbird being your mom is not superstition? No, it's reality.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yeah. Yeah. That's just a. Okay, it's a fact thing. Well, I mean, I don't think you could prove it in a science lab, but it's in my mind.

[Harry Hamlin]

But it's not superstition.

[Lisa Rinna]

That's not superstitious. No, superstitious is something that you have to do. Like, if you don't do it, something bad's gonna happen. Now I can go down the superstitious rabbit hole with my ocd, and I try not to do that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Like, give me an example.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, if you were in my brain, you really want to get out of it? But I'll share a little bit. Like, if I get, like, a tweaky thing in my head and I'm like, I have to turn that light off before I leave or something bad's gonna happen. Like, I'll say that to myself, and I'll have to go back in the room, turn the light off and leave. Why? Who knows? Or I have to throw this away before I leave, but I have to do it in the second trash can, not the first one.

[Harry Hamlin]

Do you ever have things like, well, if the light doesn't turn green at a certain time, then I know I'M not supposed to do this. Or you look around and if something doesn't happen, or if something does, you say, I can't do this because that happened. No, I've heard about that happening before. You know, where people like look around and they see certain things happening around them and if one thing happens and they, they know they're not supposed to do this other thing or whatever. I don't have anything like that in my life.

[Lisa Rinna]

I don't either, but I have this other, you know, the weird OCD thing that is like, if you don't take care of this right now, something bad could happen that I don't care for. I'd like that to go away.

[Harry Hamlin]

When was the last time that happened to you?

[Lisa Rinna]

Probably yesterday. It happens frequently.

[Harry Hamlin]

Uh huh. Okay. But you're still breathing, so you're alive. Whatever you've done, you've mitigated whatever the problem was.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm as fucked up as they get. But I'm a managing, you know, I am a manageable, fucked up human.

[Harry Hamlin]

Say that it one more time.

[Lisa Rinna]

I'm a manageable, fucked up human.

[Harry Hamlin]

Okay, and is that right?

[Lisa Rinna]

It's manageable. But I mean, like, if you lived in my head, you'd be like, oh my God, no, no, no, She's a fucking whack job. Like, I mean, seriously, if you, I mean, if you really broke down your own thoughts and you really think it's not good, we're not good thinking our own thoughts as humans.

[Harry Hamlin]

It's not good. There's a whole school of thought, by the way, about changing your thoughts and being able to think whatever you want.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yes. And I very much do that.

[Harry Hamlin]

Rewire your brain so that you can think only great thoughts about your life and what's about to come.

[Lisa Rinna]

Well, that's the work I do on a daily basis, the rewiring.

[Harry Hamlin]

There you go.

[Lisa Rinna]

But I think that our biggest challenges can be our thoughts.

[Harry Hamlin]

Without question, we can think ourselves into a real pile of trouble. That is true. And I see it happening around us all the time. And I see it happening.

[Lisa Rinna]

And we have to remind each other always to flip the switch, start, go down the rabbit hole, you know, what time to change. Positive, positive. Manifest, Manifest daily basis.

[Harry Hamlin]

I look at our youngest daughter, both of our daughters, and I see how they've manifested in their lives. And I can only hope that I will have the same manifesting abilities that they have.

[Lisa Rinna]

They have some good ones.

[Harry Hamlin]

They do.

[Lisa Rinna]

They really do, man.

[Harry Hamlin]

I learn every day from them.

[Lisa Rinna]

Yep, me too.

[Harry Hamlin]

Anyway, hey guys, thank you so much. For checking out. Let's Not Talk about the Husband.

[Lisa Rinna]

Bye. Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.

[Harry Hamlin]

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[Lisa Rinna]

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[Harry Hamlin]

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[Lisa Rinna]

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[Harry Hamlin]

So see you next week.

[Lisa Rinna]

Until then, let's not talk about the husband. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.