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Let's Not Talk About The Husband
Strike A Pose! New York Fashion Week, The Emmys, and Dancing with the Stars Injuries
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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.
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And I'm Harry Hamlin.
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And this is. Let's not talk about the Husband.
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We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.
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Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell, and on this podcast, we're going to own it, baby.
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Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to let's Now Talk about the Husband one more time with me and Lisa Rinna, who happens to be my wife and I'm her husband. So what should we talk about today? Okay, well, gee, you can talk about the Emmys, which we saw in the Emmys, you know.
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Yeah, we watched that last.
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I was not nominated. Neither were you this year. So what about.
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You were like 10 years ago I was nominated?
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Yeah.
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Do you know it's been 10 years?
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No.
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I hate to say that, but it.
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Has not 10 years.
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It's 10. Oh, well, let's not talk about how nine or 10. And you're nominated for Mad Men. Such a great role for you.
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Dan Bukatinsky won, and we saw him last party the night before last. And I. I said, I still haven't forgiven you.
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Well, that's what you're talking about. I couldn't figure out why you said that to him because it's been 10 years.
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10 years. But he won. He. He won the Emmy over me. And I got. So. So, yeah, I was like, are you kidding me? There's the guy who stole Miami. So, yeah, anyway, jeez, I'm glad I.
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Didn'T know what you were talking about. That was a fun party. So we went to this party called the Night Before. And what I love about this party, it's my favorite party because there's no press. There's no.
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There's no paparazzi, no press, no red carpet. You don't have to get dressed up. You can wear whatever you want. You can, like, you can roll out of bed and go to this party. But everybody is. There is in Hollywood. Everybody. Every star, every producer, every director, every wr. They're all there for one night at this party.
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Let's talk about some of the people we saw. It's so fun. I love this party because you get to see people from your past.
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We're gonna drop some names here. So every time a name drops, we're.
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Gonna drop a lot. So if you're doing like a game, they could do a tequila shot game.
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Okay. Every time the name drops, yeah. Get a bottle of tequila, put it in front of you with a little shot glass, and every time Lisa drops a name, because I probably won't drop.
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Any, but yeah, you could take a shot. Okay, so first, going back, because, you know, Derek Hough, we did Dancing with the Stars with. Did that 19 years ago.
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And I hear Derek is doing all these amazing things now.
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Yes, he is. He's gonna be the new host of Extra. Took over for Billy Boses.
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Really?
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He's the judge. He took over. I think he was saying that he is now where Len Goodman.
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Oh, that's right.
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He passed on Dancing with the Stars.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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Something that we both did. And I'll never forget that I had to actually leave my agent. I don't know if you remember this, but I don't. But I was the very first person who was ever asked to do Dancing with Stars.
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That's right.
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Season one. I was the number one person. And I thought, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. And I got. My agent called me and said, you were offered this stupid show where you get to dance. And I said, oh, I'll pass on that. That's ridiculous.
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Right? And then stupid 34.
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This is 34 seasons later. So then you did season two, and then they came back to me for season three.
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Well, remember they offered me season one also. But everyone said, you can't do it.
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Stupidest thing ever.
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So dumb. And. And I. My gut was like, wait, no, I want to do it. It's going to be really cool. And then they all talked me out of it, and I listened to them.
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So you didn't do season one?
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No, they came back.
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But then you saw season one and saw how amazing it was. Right. And what a challenge it is to have to do that. And you did it. And I watched you do it. Season two, and I saw what a change it brought in you. I mean, you opened up like a flower. It was kind of like you came out of your cocoon like a butterfly, you know, because it was so hard and it was such an amazing challenge. And you did so well that when they came back to me again for season three, I said, my man, if I could get a little bit of that. Whatever Lisa got when she did season.
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Two, I got my mojo back.
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She got your mojo. And I thought, well, maybe I can get a bit of that mojo back too.
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Did you get it?
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Yeah. No. I got everything out of doing it that I thought I was going to get, but I had to fire my agent or My agent fired me. He said he wouldn't represent me if I did that show.
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I sort of remember that. I don't remember the agent because sometimes they're not very memorable. That one wasn't.
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That one was. Yeah. Anyway, I don't remember, but. But I did do it and it was an amazing experience. I mean, life changing, Life changing experience. So, you know, anybody who does Dancing with the Stars, you have to know that anybody who takes that on is. Is a superhero. I mean, it. They. You have to be an Olympian. You have to be. Have won the super bowl, really, to win that contest. It's so hard.
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Which, by the way, neither of us are.
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No, that's why we didn't win. That's why I got kicked off after three weeks, you know, you were good, though.
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You did a great job. You were with Karina. She, like, that was.
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Karina was on tour. I was with Karina.
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Oh.
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Oh, no.
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You were with.
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Yeah, Ashley. I was with Ashley from Utah when I did the first one. Yeah.
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Then we went on the tour. We went on a 37 city tour, the first Dancing with a Star tour, which I guess they're still doing because Derek told us Saturday night. And we went on 37 cities on a tour bus with the kids. It was so. It was pretty.
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It was definitely amazing. And on. On New Year's, the day before New Year's, we were in Las Vegas because.
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It was the dead of winter, we.
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Did go, and Las Vegas was on. Is always on fire around New Year. So we were at the. Whatever stadium there is In Las Vegas, 17,000 people. And we were late going on stage. I remember that the audience was. They were. They were chanting and stomping their feet. And I had hurt my back that morning taking a suitcase out of the bus. I had a little hitch in my get along. And there was a chiropractor backstage and I said, hey, man, I gotta go out in five minutes. Can you fix me? And he said, oh, no problem. I'll fix you right up. And he ended up herniating my disc. L1 L5, whatever it is, disc. And the next day we went to Omaha, Nebraska.
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We went the next day, right? Yes, I remember that.
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And I called up the neurosurgeon at the hospital in Omaha, and he saw me right away and he said, oh, man, you're in trouble. They did an MRI of my back. And he said, you'll never dance again. You'll never run again. You need surgery immediately. So he wanted a new Mercedes. I think this guy, you know, this surgeon. Because I said, no, I think I'll just. I'll wait and see how it goes. And the next day we went to Chicago and I went to this sports medicine place in Chicago and they stuck an epidural in my back and I ended up dancing in 30 more cities.
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I forgot that they shot you with one of those. Epidural.
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Epidural. Because my back, I was. I had a herniated disc for years. It's fine now, but it was messed up. It was messed up for a long time.
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That's right. We had chiropractors in every city. That's the one thing that was, I thought, very helpful.
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Well, that guy had been. He'd had a few drinks.
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He was just rough. Oh, had he?
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He had had a. He's there with his girlfriend and he'd had a few drinks. We were backstage.
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No, no, Moss. No chiropractor drinking.
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But anyway, so. But. But I'm okay now. And. And Dancing with the Stars. How many seasons?
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I think it's 34 or 35.
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Holy smokes.
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Crazy.
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And didn't we heard last night that survivors had like 70 seasons?
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50. 50 survivors at 50. So we were like, Jeff Probst has to be so freaking wealthy at this point. Think about that. Well, he's probably a pretty.
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He could probably do it in his sleep, that's for sure.
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He's been doing it for so long. Yeah, well. And speaking of Dancing with the Stars, I'll name drop some more. I met Dylan Ephron last night or Saturday night and I hadn't met Dylan, but you know when the people that win traitors. Because he won with Gavin.
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You gotta remind everybody that you were on Traders. You're on Traders in January when it debuts again. It won all of the Emmys it was nominated for last night. It won them all.
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It won directing, cinematography, editing, show. And Alan won his host.
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Host. Yeah.
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So very exciting. So to meet Dylan, who he won.
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He won last year, season three that won the Emmy.
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So he won with Gabby and Dolores, the housewife from New Jersey. And one more person. I think there was four of them. Lord Ivar. Lord I. Yes, Lord Ivar from Four People won. Yeah. It was really kind of fun to meet Dylan because I hadn't met him and he's doing Dancing with the Stars, so it was fun to meet him and talk to him. He's very tall. I was very surprised at how tall because we know Zach. We worked with Zach.
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Yeah, he's the taller younger brother, I suppose. Good looking guy and sweet and lovely. Very nice, very nice. And I'll never. We were talking about what it's like to go out for the first time on Dancing with the Stars when you know that 20 million in those days, live, 20 million people were watching live in those days. I don't know what the head count is now out there, but those days, in the first few seasons, it was like 20 million people. And I'll never forget that when they called my name and they said I was going out to do the cha cha, what the feeling was in my heart.
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Oh, my God. And you've done live theater over and over and over your whole life.
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But I've never danced before and I had to dance in front of 20 million people and apparently I never watched my dances, but apparently I did okay, you know.
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You were great.
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Yeah, I still won't watch it. You were great, but it was really scary. All I was hoping was to not vomit when I walked out on the stage because it was that terrifying.
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I was afraid of blacking out. You know, like when you go live or do stage, you forget. You're afraid you're gonna forget your lines. I am. So I was afraid that I would blank out my choreography.
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Well, and. Well, of course you always wonder if you're not a dancer, you have no idea whether you're gonna pull it off or not. You could get halfway through the dance and just tweak out completely and like fall down, you know, I'll never forget that Ted Danston and Mary's teen version were in the audience that first night and Ted came up to me afterwards and he goes, oh man, you got balls of steel. Y And I thought, I guess so. Because that was terrifying, terrifying, terrifying.
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I was terrified the whole time.
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The audience has, they don't really have any clue how terrified everybody is when they come out there for that first day. I mean, it's, it is nuts.
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The fact that Traders won all five of its nominations and the fact that you're going to be on that show in just a few months, that's got to be exciting.
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Well, I will say that, you know, who doesn't want to be part of an Emmy winning, you know, show?
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Well, yeah. And what was it like working with Alan?
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Alan's great. Alan is amazing.
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That's another name.
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And of course I can't talk much about traitors because they'll kill me. Right?
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Yeah, they'll kill the whole family.
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They'll kill the whole family. So yeah, what I can say is Alan is so professional and he stays in character and he does not mix with us. So he plays the character the whole time. So no Chitty Chatty, no like hanging out in between. None of that.
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Do you suppose that's why it's so good and why he wins the Emmy every year?
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No, he wins the Emmy because he's fucking great. Because he literally is. I mean.
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But is it because he stays in character? I'm saying.
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Well, I mean, he plays this Character that is amazing. And he's so good at it. And, you know, the outfits. I think the most fun is to see what Alan is going to wear.
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I know what he was wearing at the Emmys last night was fabulous.
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Fabulous. So, you know, you're at the breakfast table in the morning and that iconic table, you know, and he comes in, and it's just like when you're watching it on television, he comes in in these fantastical outfits, and, you know, he's just such a great spirit, and he's really filled with light, and he's really funny. So let's say, you know, he's in character, and let's say something happens, you know, kind of off camera. He will. He will respond to it in character. So he will talk to you, and he might say your name, and he's very quick, and he's very humorous, and so he will turn it into a joke or something. He really is the face of that show and really drives it well.
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And that's probably why it's winning all the Emmys, because it's got somebody great like that at the helm.
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You know, he's so fantastic. I was. I mean, you're in awe of him. You know, you watch him come in and do his thing, and, you know, he knows his. He knows what he's gonna say. He's on time. He's amazing. So it was a thrill to watch him because he. He truly.
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Well, it's very unique, I would say. You know, that's a game show, right?
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Well, it's a game.
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It's a game.
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It is a game. You know, you're playing a game.
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Would you. He's the host of a. Of a challenge game. He's not a game show host.
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No, he's the host of this phenomenon.
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Is what I'm saying. So he's a host. Like, Jeff Probst is a host, but not like a game show host.
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I mean, he's the host of a show like that. Kind of more of a mix between RuPaul and Jeff Probst.
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Well, whatever it is, it's working, and I can't wait to see you, whatever you're gonna do, because whenever you do anything, you elevate it. So I can't wait to see. It's gonna be even better this year than it was last year. It's gonna win more Emmys this year.
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Well, from your mouth to God's ears. It was fun to see the group that. The production, the producers. It was fun to see them all dressed up and winning An Emmy. Because when you're working, you see people in a. You know, in a very different light. They're in their casual clothes. You're working with them.
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And there certainly were a lot of producers. I mean, I thought that was the whole cast. There were like 20 people up on the stage.
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It's a massive show, is what I can tell. It's massive. It's massive. And they just have it down to.
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The logistics of that. Oh, my God. To keep everybody apart from each other.
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It's truly remarkable. And Dina Katz, our friend who cast Dancing with the Stars, also cast Traitors. So to see her up on stage last night was really fun. So massive. Congrats to the Traitor production and studio, Lambert and everybody, because.
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And maybe next year you'll be at the Emmys. You never know if it gets nominated again. You'll probably go, yeah, you never know.
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We'll see. But it's exciting.
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So. So the Emmys happened and what other pop culture stuff. Our kids are in New York right now doing Fashion Week. You were doing Fashion Week, and you went to the Michael Kors show.
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To the Michael Kors, Michael Kors show, Which I love. I love, love, love, love, love. I get to see friends, I get to see family, get to see Amelia walk. Gorgeous. So fun. And then we went to a luncheon afterward for Michael Kors, which was really fun. And I had a great time in New York.
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Well, I remember when you got in the car to leave, I said, have the best time ever when you go. I did.
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I had a really good time.
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Yeah. And so when I get into the car tomorrow to go to the High Sierras, you know, want me to say.
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Have the best time ever. Don't break a leg.
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No, I don't want to break a leg, but I'm on a high Sierra hike. That's for sure.
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That's what I said. I. When I was saying goodbye to Dylan Efron, I said, good luck on Tuesday. I won't say break a leg. We're Dancing with the Stars.
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Yeah. People have broken legs doing that show, I think, haven't they?
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Well, I think ankles. I'm not sure. A leg. But, you know, if you injure yourself, you're effed.
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Yeah. It's over for you. Yeah.
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The one thing. Did you injure yourself? I'll tell you what I did.
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That was only during the tour. My back. I got herniated disc. But during the show, when I was doing it, I was not.
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Well, for me, what happened? Because I ended up going to the semifinals, which Was great. Was almost.
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Yeah, it's amazing. Who won that year?
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Drew Lachey.
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Drew Lachey.
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Drew Lachey and Cheryl won. Remember? It was like something a horse ride. Ride a. Ride a cowboy. Something a horse ride a cowboy or something like that. They won. That was like their big song that they won with. Anyway, my ribs, I didn't break them, but I probably.
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I mean, it felt from him holding.
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You, the way he, you know, Louis Van Amstel, most brilliant dancer and teacher. We would do these spins and he grabbed me, you know, like here. And you do that like 45,000 times. And oh my God, by the end of it, I could barely breathe. It was so painful.
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Well, I'll never forget seeing you walk across the room, the bedroom, toward the end. You would hobble, you would be bent over, you would like be. All of your legs weren't working, you would be limping. You were like an old 80 year old woman walking across the bedroom.
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Well, the truth is, I don't think I could do it now. I mean, it's almost 20. It was 20 years ago.
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Yeah, I'm sure I could do it.
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Oh, I could not do it. I would break. I mean, I'm old at this point.
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Well, yeah, we don't need to go there, but yeah, we are kind of old.
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I mean, compared to like.
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And that's what I'm thinking about when I go up in the High Sierras.
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How is that gonna be?
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I don't know, I haven't, you know. Yeah, a little bit.
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He goes in the High Sierra's by himself. No phone? No.
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Well, I'm gonna take a phone this time. There's no service. There's no phone service.
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Well then that doesn't really.
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I can listen to music on the.
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Phone, you know, but like, we don't. We kind of know where you are, but we don't.
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And I've never been to this place before. This is gonna be a new thing. Cause I'm going to a whole new place that I've never been to.
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I know.
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Which is gonna be great. I love it.
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I feel mixed about it. I think it's exciting for you. But also I just have to like give it to God. But let go.
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Let God because well, I'm gonna have a good time, you know.
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Are you looking forward to it?
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Yeah, I am looking forward to it. It's not like going to New York to Fashion Week. It's like it was your Fashion Week. I'm gonna be hanging out with marmots and deer and bears and stuff.
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Well, it's. It's kind of a walkabout. You know, for me, in Australia, how they. In Australia, not native. The indigenous people in Australia, they often go on walkabouts where they just go alone into the bout back for some time just to kind of reconnoiter and sort of.
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What does reconnoiter mean?
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Well, to kind of recharge. To recharge. To reset. You know, it's a reset moment.
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You don't talk to anybody because you're alone.
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Normally, I don't see anybody when I go, but this time I'm going to place where I think there will be people because it's somewhat of a popular place. Places I've been going to before are so far in the wilderness that no one would want to go there. I mean, so I never see a soul there. But this time I'm going to this place because it's supposed to be really, really beautiful. Very challenging. It's a 41 mile hike. It's quite challenging. It's gained 7,000ft while I'm doing it.
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A
7,000?
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B
Yeah, I'll be gaining 7,000ft. So I might start at five and go to 12.
- [24:22]
A
So you have to acclimate?
- [24:27]
B
Well, I'll acclimate first night I'm going to stay in. Yeah, I'm going to stay in a lodge and acclimate. Night one and then night, you know, night two, I'll be up at 10,000ft.
- [24:37]
A
Do you get sick at all?
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B
Do you get, you know, thank goodness I do not get altitude sickness, but a lot of people do. You never know. I mean, I could get it this time. I've never had it before.
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A
Is this higher than the other one or.
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B
It's a little bit higher. I guess at one point I'm at 12,000ft.
- [24:56]
A
Oh, that's high.
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B
Just going over one of the peaks. I'll be at 12,000ft.
- [25:02]
A
And you take a 50 pound backpack?
- [25:04]
B
Well, no, I said this pack. Actually I got it to £27 this time.
- [25:10]
A
Oh, God, that's light.
- [25:11]
B
Well, compared, it's still heavy. But then, you know, then if you take water, each liter of water is about six point something pounds. So if you take two liters of water, if I'm going over a peak or something like that, I've got an extra 12 pounds of water that I'm taking with me that you gradually get rid of as you drink it. But you know, it adds a lot of weight going over the higher peaks.
- [25:33]
A
Do you drink the water and put the iodine in it if you don't have any water?
- [25:37]
B
No, I have a filter so I can get really, really gnarly, nasty water and I can filter it and it becomes clear.
- [25:45]
A
Remember when the girls used to go every year they would go on nola, right. What were they called?
- [25:51]
B
It was called nola.
- [25:53]
A
And they would take a week and they would make them go out in the wilderness.
- [25:56]
B
Yeah. And backpack.
- [25:57]
A
Backpack for a week. Right. When school would start. It's probably the greatest thing that happened for them because they had to like literally be out in the middle of nowhere. They had to get the gnarly water with the filter.
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B
I know.
- [26:10]
A
They had to.
- [26:10]
B
Good for them. It was good for them.
- [26:12]
A
Go to the bathroom in the wood. They hated it. They were so mad at us every year.
- [26:16]
B
And they will never. I've asked you, I've asked them to come along with me on my side. They will never. Because of that experience they had, they will never ever go camping again. I'm sure it's over for them.
- [26:26]
A
They were so mad at us every year they were like, I'm not going to Spirit Week or something. It was called some fancy name. And they were so mad.
- [26:34]
B
But then there was. Amelia learned after doing it the first time because she had pretty long hair. And the first time she went, her hair got all matted. She was out in the wilderness for.
- [26:42]
A
A week because they don't have a shower.
- [26:44]
B
They didn't have a brush or a shower like that. So, yeah, her hair was all messed up when she got back. So the second time she went out, she said, I know what I'm going to do. And she put her hair in cornrows so that her hair wouldn't get messed up on the trip.
- [26:56]
A
Well, it wasn't even cornrows. It was like French braids and braids. Just two.
- [27:01]
B
It was two French braids and it looked a little bit like cornrows. But it wasn't.
- [27:05]
A
But it wasn't.
- [27:06]
B
But then when she got back after the camping trip, she got hit with cultural appropriation at the school, as though she had somehow misappropriated the hairstyles of another cultural group. And she. One of the reasons why I took her out of that school in the.
- [27:24]
A
Middle of the week, it was problematic for us. That school, we've had two. We had a great experience at Westland with the kids. They went to Westland, which is a progressive town.
- [27:37]
B
Westland was fantastic. The other school, which we won't mention.
- [27:40]
A
We'Re not going to say the name.
- [27:41]
B
But yeah, it was not good.
- [27:44]
A
We had to pull them out at what Delilah was. Delilah was a senior and she was a senior. So imagine getting pulled out of the.
- [27:52]
B
School on a Wednesday in the middle of the week. I called.
- [27:56]
A
You guys have no idea what everyone's been through. It might look rosy and gray, but times like that, that was traumatic.
- [28:05]
B
It was traumatic. And it was really, really bad for Delilah because Delilah's self esteem was tricky at that point because of middle school and middle school. Remember, there was somebody who called us up, another person who will rem. But called us up in the middle of the year when Delilah was at Buckley, which was a school a lot of kids go to, not the school that we pulled him out of. But when Delilah was at that school, we got a call from a friend of ours whose child was at Curtis, which is another elementary school not far. And he said, oh my, there's so much. I'm not drawing up. No. And so the person said, there's so much bullying going on at Curtis, you guys are at Buckley. Can you maybe help us get our daughter transferred into Buckley? And I said, sure, of course we will. No problem. So I called up the headmaster. Maybe you did. Of Buckley. And sure enough, they were able to make that transition really smoothly. But then we found out that the girl who we helped leave Curtis was actually the bully of Delilah. Of Delilah. Well, she was the bully. She was the bully at the school. And the reason she had to leave that was because she was the bully, not that she was being bullied, which is what I thought. And then she went on to really severely bullied Delilah. So Delilah's self esteem was not good. And then she was at this school, and for the very first time, they got into the national competition for the a cappella group because Delilah's solo was so great and she. And her solo was so spectacular that it got them into the finals, into the nationals. But then, because she had sibo, remember.
- [29:47]
A
Well, I was gonna say we have to talk about her health issues at the time. She had pandas.
- [29:51]
B
She had Pandas before that, which is pediatric autoimmune neuropsychologic disorder, which causes a.
- [29:59]
A
Lot of things and OCD and stomach issues. And now, if you follow pandas on Instagram, the panda. I forget the. The exact.
- [30:14]
B
Anyway, there's a pan. Pandas.
- [30:16]
A
Pandas. We will. We'll put it up for you guys, because I know a lot of 10%.
- [30:20]
B
Of kids get pandas, I mean, and some severely. Delilah had it severely, but the faculty.
- [30:27]
A
Didn'T have any way of dealing with it or knowing what it was. So there were no provisions made. Now there are provisions made at schools.
- [30:37]
B
I think now they kind of know what pandas is.
- [30:39]
A
Yes. Like, they get longer on their tests and, you know, their attention spans a little bit different. And she.
- [30:46]
B
But she developed sibo, which is a small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, which is something that happens. Can happen from endometriosis, as we know now, because Delilah has had surgery for that. But, you know, it's very debilitating. Sibo. And she would. If she got hit with a SIBO attack, she would double over, like in a fetal position on the ground. And she couldn't move well, she couldn't go to school. And she. But if she was at school and she got an attack, I'll never forget the reason that we ended up taking her out of that school is because the headmaster of that school, in conjunction with the head of the acapella group, took her out of the a cappella group before the finals because she missed a Rehearsal.
- [31:29]
A
I know.
- [31:29]
B
And she missed a rehearsal because she was in a fetal position on the floor of the girl's bathroom for about an hour and a half and couldn't even move. And they said, oh, you can't miss a rehearsal. If you miss a rehearsal, you're out of it.
- [31:41]
A
But she also had another moment where she got a job. She got a modeling job, and she was going to have to miss something for that. And the school was very proactive in it's so important to, you know, work and grit and all this. And they penalized her for that.
- [32:02]
B
Well, because it was modeling, because they wanted to have these girls come up and become CEOs of corporations also on.
- [32:10]
A
A reality show at the time. And they were a little snooty about that, if you remember.
- [32:14]
B
That's true.
- [32:15]
A
I was a Real Housewife of Beverly Hills. And let's just face it, we went to a private school that had an attitude about that. They did well.
- [32:24]
B
They had an attitude. So we took them out. Anyway, they did great. They both got into the colleges they wanted to go to and all.
- [32:30]
A
They didn't go. But Delilah got into nyu. Amelia got into the new School. Amelia went for like a week.
- [32:38]
B
And she only applied to one school. And not only did she get into that school, the only one school that she applied to, she also got a full ride.
- [32:44]
A
She did.
- [32:45]
B
She got a scholarship.
- [32:46]
A
She got a scholarship. I forgot about that. Well, then Covid hit and there. So there's a whole story, you know, with that, unfortunately. But, you know, they turned out the.
- [32:55]
B
Decision they had to make, because whether you start in the fall semester or the winter semester at those schools, they both would start at the same time as Fashion Week. So the question was, do I go to history 101 on a Thursday afternoon or I make 10k, didn't make a bunch of money walking in a show. And so.
- [33:15]
A
So, yeah, it was a conundrum.
- [33:17]
B
Yeah, they can always go back to school. They got. They got into the schools they wanted to. But I think, you know, in this day and age, because of the Internet and because of the ability to basically find anything you want in two seconds, you know, college education is not the same as used to be. It used to be kind of a necessity if you wanted to grease the wheels going into life. And now those wheels are greased very easily by your cell phone.
- [33:42]
A
I do think it's very good for them to kind of learn how to live on their own for the first time. I think that's what college is. Great.
- [33:50]
B
Yeah. No there's no replacement for college, but you can certainly get by today without it, as our kids have. Have seemingly done so far.
- [33:59]
A
But we are college proponents because I do think it's a good transfer. Trans transition from high school to life.
- [34:06]
B
Well, you know, they will be. They're the first kids in our family to not go to college. Well, for generations and generations and generations.
- [34:16]
A
I'm not sure you count me as going to college.
- [34:19]
B
Well, you went though for a while, but three months in the Hamlin family. There's definitely in your family. In my family, yeah. They're the first to not go to college. People say, oh, they're the first ones who ever went to college. Well, they're the first that didn't go to college.
- [34:32]
A
They're also the first ones to make that kind of money that they're making.
- [34:35]
B
So I'm off tomorrow to the High Sierras into a brand new location I've never been to before. My pack is 27 pounds, which is the lightest it's ever been.
- [34:44]
A
Amazing. And you set up a tent every night you do that. And.
- [34:48]
B
Well, if it's really nice, I mean, if the weather's perfect, you can just sleep under the stars too.
- [34:54]
A
It sounds like the worst fucking nightmare for me of my life. I can't imagine that's where we're so different. Like, I just. My brain explodes listening to it going, oh, why?
- [35:05]
B
Because it's. You're outside. Because you're. There's no air conditioning or something to sleep outside.
- [35:11]
A
I would think that a mass murderer would come or a serial killer would come and slice my throat or something. I would never sleep.
- [35:18]
B
But you're not afraid of the bears then. You're afraid of a serial killer. I'm afraid.
- [35:22]
A
I would be afraid of everything, but I would be mostly afraid of some serial killer.
- [35:28]
B
Yeah, or like, you know, when you're up in the High Sierras and you have to go to 12,000ft to get to where you're going. Very few serial killers would do that. I doubt very few would go to that extreme to get somewhere to kill somebody. No. Not when they could just walk out on the street and do it.
- [35:47]
A
It just, you know, I would be cold, I would be uncomfortable. I would not like the bugs. I don't like to go out in the woods and, you know, go to the bathroom. I don't see anything cute about it. I think it's great that you love it. I prefer to go to Fashion Week or the Four Seasons or to Paris.
- [36:11]
B
I know that your idea of camping Is any floor below the 10th floor of the Four Seasons? Yeah, but you know, if you saw the views and the vistas and smell the smells and, and took in what I see when I'm out there, what I feel, you would have a different sensation of it because you would say it's worth it to poop in the woods if I get to see this. It's worth it to sleep alone in the middle of the woods if I get to see this and smell this and taste this. No, it's an amazing thing to be out there, particularly alone because the animals deal with you in a whole different way when you're alone. They come right up to you.
- [36:46]
A
They do?
- [36:47]
B
Oh yeah. The deer and the marmots and all the little creatures, if you're solo, they're not freaked out, they come out at you.
- [36:55]
A
So maybe you just like to go hang out with the creatures.
- [36:59]
B
Well, I'm very happy if I get to hang out with the creatures. It doesn't happen all the time, but.
- [37:05]
A
Well, we'll see what creatures comes.
- [37:08]
B
I'll take some pictures and then.
- [37:09]
A
Do you eat? Like what do you eat? I know you will cook a steak the first time, but like, like do you have that food that you mix up with water like the astronauts, the dried food?
- [37:21]
B
Yeah, I'm an astronaut.
- [37:23]
A
I don't know, I mean I'm not.
- [37:25]
B
Going to the moon. I'm going to the Sierra.
- [37:27]
A
It seems like you're going to the moon, Harry, to me. You're going to the moon.
- [37:32]
B
Oh no, I take dried fruit. I don't do the steak thing anymore.
- [37:37]
A
Oh, you don't?
- [37:37]
B
That adds another few pounds to the first day of hiking.
- [37:41]
A
So what's in your freeze dried food? What are you going to have?
- [37:43]
B
Well, I got bistrogonoff and I've got, I got. Oh, I got Bolognese. I have for the first time I found some Bolognese, you know, some dried Bolognese. Yeah. So there you go.
- [37:59]
A
Yum, yum, yum.
- [38:00]
B
No, it's actually not bad. You'd like it. It's all worth. Because you know if you just went and saw it, you'd go, I get it. Now I understand why you go there.
- [38:09]
A
I would be happy to go with a helicopter. In a helicopter, take me up, drop me off and then I'm there and I could be like, hi, waiting for you. Let's go, let's breathe it in, let's see it. And then I could get back on the helicopter when it's nighttime and go back.
- [38:27]
B
I know you can have your heater and your air conditioning and your dogs and stuff like that. I know. I get it. You want a magic carpet basically to take you there.
- [38:36]
A
I feel like I want to live. Live on a magic carpet. That's my life now. I'm to a point where I want things nice and comfortable and everything for you. No, not necessarily. It doesn't have to be done for me, but I. I am set in my waves at this point, and I feel that life is too short to sacrifice anything like that. I just. I want to have my life a certain way. If it doesn't go that way, I don't have. Have a fit about it. I'm like, okay, well, we need to tweak this a little bit. But I have ideas of how I want to live my life, and I'm.
- [39:12]
B
And one of them is not going into the mountains.
- [39:15]
A
I'm so okay with it. I'm so. I'm so in owning of the fact that I like to live my life a certain way.
- [39:22]
B
And you like room service.
- [39:25]
A
I like. I like to be pampered. Let's just get right to it. I like a certain pamperization. I don't know if that's a word.
- [39:32]
B
I like the word pamperization. So you could be pamperized, but not in the mountains. You could be pamperized at the four season for sure.
- [39:40]
A
I just have a certain way. I like to live my life right now. And I just don't want to sacrifice anything if I don't have to. Like, I will if I have to, you know, but if I don't have to, I won't.
- [39:53]
B
Okay, well, you'll be staying here. You'll be going to the four seasons and I'll be in the mountains.
- [39:57]
A
No, I'm staying in our house, which is better than the four seasons with the dogs, which people loved. I mean, don't you love to just stay home with your dogs? I do. I love that.
- [40:07]
B
Well, I've been home with the dogs while you were in New York for sure. Love that. Very busy, by the way, with the dog. They keep you very busy. You're gonna be very busy while I'm gone.
- [40:14]
A
No, I know. Trust me. I don't get lonely at all.
- [40:20]
B
Well, good. I'm so glad.
- [40:24]
A
How about the fashion at the Emmys? Did you see any of it?
- [40:27]
B
I saw a little bit of it. Okay, let's talk about that. I remarked on Colman Domingo outfit.
- [40:33]
A
Yes. Who? He always dresses fabulously. We love him. Name drop. Ding.
- [40:38]
B
I know. I remember. I went when he was doing the Met Ball. I was. For some reason, I found myself in.
- [40:44]
A
Well, you went to see Emilia's billboard at Or. Yes, billboard.
- [40:48]
B
I went to see. I went to the store in New York to see Amelia, and I met. Yeah, I met the designer.
- [40:55]
A
Alessandro.
- [40:56]
B
Alessandro. And one of the guys said, let me show you around the store. I'm walking around the store and he says, do you know Colman Domingo? I said, yeah, I know Coleman. Not a lot. And he says, well, come in here. Takes me into the room, and there's Coleman, like, half naked, getting. Getting his outfit pinned for the next day for the Met Ball.
- [41:14]
A
And he had a bunch of people in there, I remember.
- [41:16]
B
And I was like, what am I doing in this room? You know? But he was very nice.
- [41:20]
A
Because you're Harry Hamlin.
- [41:21]
B
He was very sweet.
- [41:22]
A
Because you were brought to him. No, so the fashion. Okay, my favorite drop was this Louis Vuitton that. The girl that was on. Oh, my God, here we go.
- [41:38]
B
Okay.
- [41:39]
A
The one that won with the boy one camera, which.
- [41:43]
B
Oh, I mean, adolescence.
- [41:44]
A
Adolescence. What is happening? Adolescence.
- [41:46]
B
Okay.
- [41:47]
A
The actress that won for Adolescence, I don't know her name, so I can't say it, but she had the dress that I love, a gorgeous black Louis Vuitton that was custom designed for her. Fabulous.
- [41:59]
B
Aaron Doherty.
- [42:00]
A
Thank you. Aaron Doherty. See, that's why.
- [42:03]
B
Okay, thank you so much.
- [42:04]
A
Thank you.
- [42:06]
B
We'd be lost. Thank you.
- [42:07]
A
My God, Aaron looked amazing. Loved it, loved it, loved it. And I thought Seth Rogen. I liked his tux by Etro, because I posted it. I thought it was so good.
- [42:19]
B
This sort of a purple thing, right?
- [42:20]
A
No, actually rust color.
- [42:22]
B
Rust color.
- [42:25]
A
The studio won a lot. The Pit. How about that? The Pit one.
- [42:30]
B
Yeah.
- [42:30]
A
You know, the studio, the Pit and Adolescence, those were the three big.
- [42:35]
B
I've worked with John Wells, you know, because he did Shameless. That's great.
- [42:39]
A
And you saw the actor from Shameless.
- [42:42]
B
See if you remember Stephen. Yeah, Stephen was there. Tall, very tall. And. Yeah, and he's working a lot.
- [42:50]
A
He said he's doing two shows at once.
- [42:51]
B
Two shows at once. That's amazing. Yeah. But John Wells was there, and I'll never forget my first day on Shameless. And I always wanted to work with John Wells because he had done ER and he was so well known as being this great. He was sort of the Steven Bochko of his day. And I'll never forget, I was in. In the car going from the trailer to set, from makeup to inherit a set, and Emmy Rossum was in the car. With me. And I said, you know, I was looking around through my trailer for the sides this morning. I didn't. Didn't see any sides.
- [43:23]
A
Now, sides are little things.
- [43:24]
B
Just sides are. Okay, so what sides are is if you're shooting four scenes that day, the four scenes are printed out in a small version.
- [43:33]
A
It's like this big.
- [43:34]
B
So you can take them around, you can put them in your pocket and walk around. So if you don't know your lines completely, you forget them. You can always pull that out and look at it. It. And I said to Emmy Ross, I was looking around for my sides. I couldn't find him. And she said, sides, Harry, Sides are. You're not allowed to have sides. This is a John Wells show. And John Wells, you. You have to know your lines before you get on the set. You can't ask anybody for what your lines are. You can't look at a cheat sheet.
- [43:59]
A
What if you don't? What if you go up?
- [44:02]
B
Well, yeah, you're kind of screwed.
- [44:04]
A
Oh.
- [44:05]
B
So, yeah. So, yeah, I'll never forget that. I mean. And then I played a doctor on that. I played a doctor on Shameless.
- [44:14]
A
You were a plastic surgeon.
- [44:16]
B
I think whatever I was, I was a doctor. And I had to say some doctor stuff. Like, I had one little sentence where I had to say some of those words that you only see in medical books and shit like that. And it was so hard to memorize those words because they make no sense. It's just like the thoracic dita da dick and this and that, you know? And I went up to John Wells and I said, now, okay, I said, after playing this doctor, I said, I have the greatest respect for everybody who was on ER because, however, they managed to memorize those weird words, those strange medical terms that they had to come up with in the spur of the moment. It was like, nuts. And I said, john, I now have the deepest respect for you and all of the actors who ever worked on ER because that stuff is crazy hard to memorize.
- [44:59]
A
Yeah. And I think, as Laura has it, I think George Clooney wrote his really hard lines on his hand.
- [45:06]
B
Oh, really?
- [45:07]
A
Yeah. I think that's out there that he would look at his hand because, well, how would you remember all those?
- [45:11]
B
It's almost impossible to memorize that stuff. And so, you know, Noah won the Emmy last night, and I'm sure he has to say that stuff all the time.
- [45:19]
A
Well, yeah, because it's basically, you know.
- [45:22]
B
Well, he said he. In his speech, he said he brought the a. His A game to it. And you would have to bring your A game. You have to be your A plus game game to say those words and, and to do that and not lose any time.
- [45:34]
A
You know, I'm not sure that I would be hirable for that. I'm not sure.
- [45:38]
B
Well, at this point, with your memory the way.
- [45:41]
A
Forget that I can't even remember, like simple things.
- [45:45]
B
What's my name? Okay, so we'll move on from there.
- [45:49]
A
Okay, let's see. So. Yes. Emmys last night. Okay. The one thing I didn't love about the Emmys, I try to be positive, but I didn't love the time and the money situation where if you.
- [46:05]
B
Oh, for the boys and girls club.
- [46:06]
A
Yeah, I didn't love that.
- [46:08]
B
That was, that was a terrible idea. Who's ever came up with that idea? I was like, I know that CBS is trying to finish on time, right. Because they. All those things always go over and they must lose a lot of money when they go over. But.
- [46:18]
A
But they do so much silly, ridiculous stuff that takes up most of the time that they could use that time for the people.
- [46:26]
B
Exactly. If they had never mentioned anything about the problem of time. If they'd never spent all the time discussing this time code thing that they had all of that time that they spent on that could have been used by the people to thank their producers and their people on the set.
- [46:43]
A
Exactly. So I kind of wanted to slap them all and I. I kind of wanted to slap the host. I did. I'm just gonna be honest about it. I wanted to just be like, okay, snap out of it. Move along. It was a cute idea for two seconds. Be done with it.
- [46:58]
B
Yeah, it didn't work anyway. Cause they ended up being negative territory.
- [47:02]
A
Well, he knew it didn't work, and then he like made CBS come in with some money. And I mean, it was a cute idea for two seconds. It was.
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B
I thought, oh, how about when Stephen Colbert got the biggest ovation of the night?
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A
Okay, that's the best part of the whole night. Let's talk about that for a second. We can go there. So Stephen Colbert's been canceled. His show canceled, Right, Canceled. CBS canceled.
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B
But why do we suppose his show is canceled?
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A
Well, we think his show is canceled because he talks about someone that doesn't want them to talk about them negatively, if you know what I mean.
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B
I think that's probably true.
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A
I think that's why they.
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B
And so CBS then basically, with their knees bent, fired Stephen Colbert.
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A
Didn't they sue CBS and Paramount for Bajillions of dollars settled.
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B
Well, because CBS and Skydance, Paramount wanted to merge, and in order to get the concession to merge, they had to concede.
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A
But didn't they have. Doesn't somebody in the big house have to. Okay, it's. I know I'm talking in code, but you'll figure it out. You know what I mean? Like, there was a. There was a.
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B
Of course it was all leveraged. It was all bullshit where they had to. Yeah, it was all bullshit. It was all, you know, and it's all political bullshit. And yet, you know, it works if, you know, if you have the leverage and if you can scare somebody enough. Yeah, that kind of. Those tactics can work. And they have seemed to work with cbs, even though Stephen Colbert will go on, I'm sure, to do amazing things.
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A
Well, he won the Emmy last night, and he won the Emmy, which is so. I mean, I love those moments. It's like, you cancel his show, he wins the Emmy. He actually, I think, is the winner in all of it. Because he's gonna go on. He'll probably work for Netflix for four times the amount of money, and he'll.
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B
Draw whatever audience is there for CBS won't have an audience anymore. So. Yeah, I mean, CBS has taken a really strange turn, if you ask me. But, you know.
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A
Well, listen, it's.
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B
There's a lot of big business there. Big business.
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A
Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. Big, big money. So he's gonna go on. I thought that was my favorite moment when he won first, when he came out, he got the standing ovation. And then when he won, after your show's been canceled, it's such a good fuck you. I mean, I would have just stood there like this, but he's way classier than I am. Cbs, which I can learn from.
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B
Well, I mean, yeah, he could have gone the other direction, but, you know, he's a pretty smart guy, and he's. He's pretty evolved. And I think he knew that to go down that particular rabbit hole would have been a mistake. And he just was very classy about it.
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A
So classy. And, you know, he. He spoke about loss. And what I love about him is I listened to him on Anderson Cooper's podcast about grief, and he was telling a story about, you know, losing his mom or his. I forget. Exactly.
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B
You're forgetting stuff these days.
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A
I forget, but I just remember being so moved, listening to this podcast with Anderson and him talking. If you haven't heard it, go listen to it. It's really moving. And you really get to know Stephen Colbert in a different way and Anderson, of course. But you know, because Stephen is a comic and he, you know, does a late night show, this was a more real moment of him.
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B
And I thought so, yeah, it was.
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A
It's great. So if you get a chance to go listen to the Anderson Stephen Colbert podcast. I forget the name, of course I forget the name of Anderson's podcast, but it's on grief. It's, it's amazing. I remember I listened to it.
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B
So it was inspired by his mom passing.
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A
Yes.
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B
Okay. Yeah.
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A
So I remember listening, listening to it after we lost Lois and crying, crying, crying. You know, Andy, Andy Cohen told me to listen to it and I was like, I'm not sure I'm ready to listen to it. And then I did and I was like, wow, so moving, so moving. So anyway, there's that. So what else? Is our time up? Did we talk enough? We chitty chatted again. What did they say? We're like, we're like audio ketamine. Oh, audio. You're like, listen.
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B
Who's ever lips to God's ear that.
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A
Whoever said that on my Instagram, I thought it was so cool. I love your podcast. It's like audio ketamine.
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B
What is ketamine like? If.
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A
What's a tranquilizer, honey?
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B
So we're putting people to sleep.
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A
Well, I don't know. She said it in a positive way. It wasn't like, I hate your.
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B
Well, for all those of you who are still awake, thank you so much for once again joining us on let's not talk about. About the husband. Did you forget?
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A
Woo. Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.
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B
And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss anything.
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A
Yeah. And if you liked what you heard.
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B
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A
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B
On TikTok and I'm HarryRhamlin on Instagram.
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A
That's right.
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B
So see you next week.
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A
Until then, let's not talk about the husband.
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C
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