Unbelievable Stories: Ice Storms, Endometriosis & Harry Hamlin's Goes to Jail

Summary

Podcast Summary

Let’s Not Talk About The Husband

Hosts: Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin

Episode: Unbelievable Stories: Ice Storms, Endometriosis & Harry Hamlin Goes to Jail

Date: December 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and humor-filled episode, iconic Hollywood couple Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin recount a series of extraordinary personal experiences, from Harry’s wild brush with the law as a college student, to the chaos wrought by a Canadian ice storm, and the family’s long and winding road to a diagnosis for their daughter Delilah’s health problems. The couple discuss serious topics—women’s health, drug laws, and family challenges—interspersed with their trademark banter, relatable domestic mishaps, and a dose of Hollywood gossip.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Great Canadian Ice Storm

[00:37–06:05]

• Harry recounts returning to their Canadian cabin after a catastrophic ice storm. The storm left the property strewn with massive broken branches and damaged trees; Harry spends days chainsawing and hauling the debris.
• “You couldn’t walk through the paths, you couldn’t get through the place… I had to get a new chainsaw, and I chainsawed through trees that were… about 12 inches in diameter.” – Harry [01:26]
• He describes the destruction, explaining how ice accumulates on tree branches, causing a domino effect in forests.
• “There’s a lot of dead branches and trees that were knocked over and stuff… some entire forests went over because it was like a domino effect.” – Harry [02:49]

2. Car Trouble & Domestic Snafus

[04:00–06:05]

• Light-hearted moment: Lisa accidentally smashes a garage light while unloading groceries. After some teasing, Harry offers to fix it.
• Lisa confesses, “It was one of those days yesterday where things just happen and you have to, like, take care of it, deal with it.” [05:34]

3. “Audio Ketamine”: Listener Feedback

[06:05–07:21]

• Lisa shares an unusual listener comment: “I love your podcast. It’s like audio ketamine.”
• Harry and Lisa riff on the comparison. Lisa muses, “Usually I am so loud and have a lot of energy. And so I thought to relate me to ketamine was kind of interesting, you know what I mean?” [06:42]

4. Harry Hamlin Goes to Jail: Wild College Story

[07:21–26:19]

• Harry reveals he was arrested at Berkeley in 1970 for carrying speed pills and a small amount of marijuana on a flight—unaware of the legal repercussions.
• “My upperclassmen had given me 25 pills and… about a 25th of an ounce of grass. That was my payment for taking these pills down…” – Harry [07:44]
• After a court deal goes awry, his judge is replaced by a much harsher one, who threatens three years in San Quentin prison, but through his lawyer’s quick thinking and some imaginative storytelling, Harry’s sentence becomes 18 days in county jail, served on weekends.
• “I would have gone to jail for three years…The judge finally… says, alright… I’m sentencing you to one year in the county jail…[but] I’m going to suspend all but 18 days.” – Harry [15:09–15:46]
• Harry describes surreal jail scenes: fellow inmates, high on PCP-laced tobacco, tear up the cell. He’s forced to smoke the joint and becomes paranoid as both guards and inmates suspect him of being an informant, resulting in small “revenge” acts for his entire stay.
• “I was forced to have to smoke PCP. Is PCP the same thing [as ketamine]?” – Harry [07:21]
• “That’s my PCP story… I highly recommend jail.” – Harry (very sarcastic) [26:23–26:25]

5. Delilah’s Health—A Journey to an Endometriosis Diagnosis

[26:38–41:21]

• Lisa shares the family’s emotional decade-long search for answers to daughter Delilah’s health issues, finally culminating in an endometriosis diagnosis and successful surgery.
• “Delilah has shared… she’s had some health issues… Her [modeling] agent said, I think you have endometriosis.” – Lisa [27:05–27:26]
• They explain endometriosis, its symptoms, and the difficulty of diagnosing it—often requiring nine to eleven years from the first symptoms to diagnosis and confirmation through laparoscopic surgery.
• “It causes lesions… There’s four stages… She had stage one, but the doctor said to me, stage one is more painful than stage four.” – Lisa [28:05–32:37]
• The doctor found blood pooled in Delilah’s pelvis during surgery and suggested she freeze her eggs as a precaution.
• “I have not heard her complain about anxiety, panic attacks, the seizures, amazing pain, headache, nausea. She has not complained of any of it in a week.” – Lisa [34:43]
• Lisa and Harry underscore the lack of attention to women’s health: “I think it’s so important to talk about women’s health because it is so down on the totem pole...” – Lisa [34:44]

Notable Quotes:

• “[Women’s health]… is so down on the totem pole…I saw a post… all the men on the board talking about women’s health… There’s not a woman on that panel.” – Lisa [34:44–35:15]
• “If we hadn’t done surgery now, in two years Delilah could have been infertile.” – Lisa [32:54]

6. Family & Heredity: Lisa’s Own Health Story

[36:04–37:43]

• Lisa recalls her own struggles with fibroid tumors, leading to major surgery; speculates about hereditary connections between her and her mother’s experiences and Delilah’s diagnosis.
• “When I was 21, I had the fibroid tumor… as big as a watermelon, big as a softball on my uterus… had to snip it off…” – Lisa [36:59–37:35]

7. On the House Husband Front: The Hardest Chores

[39:02–40:55]

• Lisa humorously recounts the “real” challenge: changing king-size bed sheets and duvet covers solo, after the dog vomited.
• Harry empathizes: “You know, when you alone, when you’re trying to pull those sheets on… and you get one corner and then the other corner flies out…” [39:52–40:08]

8. Sauce Success!

[41:00–43:59]

• The couple celebrates a major milestone: Harry’s sauce is now available in Gelson’s Markets in LA. They want to scale distribution but remain committed to clean, preservative-free food.
• “We’re an impact company. We want to change the whole food system in America by only providing the most clean food with absolutely no preservatives.” – Harry [42:07]
• They discuss a Housewives connection: Dorinda Medley recently made lasagna with their sauce on TikTok.

9. Housewives Lore & Gossip

[43:59–47:49]

• Lisa explains the cult status of the New York franchise (“the most iconic of all the Housewives”) and the drama surrounding its cancellation and possible reboot. She comments on how reality TV becomes part of zeitgeist.
• “Those women are so iconic. I mean, on just another level… That group is the most iconic of all the Housewife franchises.” – Lisa [45:22–45:36]
• Lisa recently dined with Erica and Dorit—teasers about show filming but no spoilers.

10. Generational Fandom

[49:16–50:10]

• Harry notes that fans who recognize him from Lisa’s Housewives fame are getting younger and younger.
• “The vast majority of them are like 15, 16, 17 years old. They’re children.” – Harry [49:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On legal disaster:
  “Young man, you’re pleading guilty to possession of these drugs… I’m going to make this a case study. And I’m sentencing you to three years in the federal penitentiary.”
  – Judge to Harry Hamlin [13:19]

• On surviving jail:
  “I was getting it from both sides. I got bad treatment from both the inmates and from the guards… for three more weekends.”
  – Harry [25:46]

• On finally finding answers for Delilah:
  “I have not heard her complain about anxiety… She has not complained of any of it in a week. This could be it. This could be the thing.”
  – Lisa [34:43–34:44]

• On women’s health:
  “I think it’s so important to talk about women’s health because it is so down on the totem pole…”
  – Lisa [34:44]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:37–06:05: Ice storm in Canada, Harry’s clean-up saga
• 06:05–07:21: Listener: “audio ketamine” feedback, the couple’s riff
• 07:21–26:25: Harry goes to jail: drug conviction, PCP episode, and lessons learned
• 26:38–41:21: Delilah's health journey, endometriosis diagnosis and surgery
• 41:00–43:59: Harry’s sauce in Gelson’s, food business talk
• 43:59–47:49: Housewives legacy, reality TV gossip, inside scoop on the New York franchise
• 47:49–51:06: Fan demographics, Lisa’s dinner with Housewives, teaser for future projects

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Tone & Style

The conversation is a blend of Lisa’s high-energy, honest, occasionally self-deprecating storytelling and Harry’s measured, detailed, dry-witted narrative. Their chemistry is equal parts affection, bickering, and mutual support—with quips, laughter, and plenty of asides that take the audience on a ride from Hollywood glam to truly relatable family moments.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers wild, humorous, and heartfelt stories, from Harry’s “criminal” past and brushes with disaster, to Lisa’s unwavering advocacy for women’s health and family. The takeaway? Survive your own ice storms, don’t take drugs from your frat brothers, talk about (and fight for) women’s health, and, above all—don’t ever underestimate changing a king-size bed solo.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production.

Hi, I'm Lisa Rinna.

[B]

And I'm Harry Hamlin.

[A]

And this is. Let's Not Talk about the Husband.

[B]

We've been together for over 30 years, and we've been working in this industry a lot longer.

[A]

Well, you know, we have some crazy stories to tell, and on this podcast, we're going to own it, baby.

[B]

Buckle up. Let's get into today's episode.

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of what? Let's Not Talk about the Husband.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

Hi. We're back.

[A]

We're back. You've been gone.

[B]

I've been gone.

[A]

On vacation.

[B]

Well, I guess it was a vacation. I went through our cabin in Canada, and we had a huge ice storm in March that definitely left its mark. I mean, the whole region was covered with ice for a long, like, more than a week. And it just. All my neighbors said that while they were there and the ice storm was going on, the sound was just the sound of thunder. Everywhere was just the sound of branches and trees breaking apart.

[A]

What is an ice storm exactly?

[B]

Okay, so what happens is it rains in the upper atmosphere. The water doesn't turn into snow, so it's not sleet.

[A]

I mean, it's not.

[B]

It's rain.

[A]

Hail. It's not hail. So what makes it an ice storm?

[B]

An ice storm is when it rains, but the ground is frozen. The trees are actually frozen.

[A]

So it's not.

[B]

As soon as the water hits the trees, it freezes on the branches. So it creates a coating around each branch of ice. As it rains more and more and more, it gets heavier and heavier and heavier and eventually breaks off all of the branches. And so our place was acres of just broken branches on the ground everywhere. You couldn't walk through the paths, you couldn't get through the place you couldn't get from one house to another. I had to go out and buy a new chain because the old chainsaw just went. Yeah, just kind of died. So I got a new chainsaw, and I chainsawed through trees that were. I don't know, the biggest one was about 12 inches in diameter. And then the smallest ones were, you know, a few inches in diameter. But I had to cut all this wood up. And then it was, you know, pretty far away from the lake. So I had to take it, put it in a wheelbarrow and build big stacks of freshly cut wood. None of it was burnable because it was all hemlock. There was one cedar tree that I had to cut down, but it was pretty major.

[A]

So where does it go?

[B]

Well, a lot of it I hauled into the deep forest. And some of it, about two or three tons of it, got taken off in barges.

[A]

Where's the deep forest? In the middle of the island.

[B]

In the middle? Yeah, in the middle of the property. I just dragged it in there. You'll never see it because we never go in there because it's the deep forest.

[A]

It's a 36 acre island. So people can kind of picture what.

[B]

Yeah, 36 acres. And so I dragged it into places where we never go. So you won't see it. But, you know, it's still kind of a drag. I mean, there's a, you know, a lot, a lot of dead branches and trees that were knocked over and stuff. And there was reports of some entire forests that went over because it was like a domino effect. And the trees got so covered with ice that they started falling over and they'd push over the tree next to them and a whole forest went over.

[A]

That's a trip. I wonder what that sounded like. Probably scary.

[B]

Well, they said that the sound of the forest was unimaginable because all you heard was the breaking of branches one after another after another.

[A]

That's freaky.

[B]

So that's what I dealt with most of the time. And we were fortunate because none of the trees fell on our home or any of the houses or outbuildings. It fell on the outdoor lights. And I called up my guys, who are the property managers there, and I said, you got to fix the outdoor lights. And they sent an electrician over and said, no, these lights are too old. We have to put in a whole new system. But it's not too old. I mean, they just wanted a bigger job, I think. So I did it myself. I fixed them all.

[A]

You did?

[B]

I did, yeah.

[A]

You're handy.

[B]

Well, I, you know, I mean, I've done all electrical stuff before.

[A]

Guess what? You're gonna have to fix the light that I hit yesterday on the garage.

[B]

I saw that. How did you hit that light? So it looks like that's impossible to hit that light because it's like way up on top of the garage.

[A]

So I had my car up top undoing the groceries because somebody was parked in the parking, you know, right for the garage. So I drove up undid, took out the groceries, and I guess I swore I had closed my trunk because I don't think my car would go backward if my trunk wasn't closed.

[B]

Well, usually we'd give you a signal, would go beep, beep, beep or something and tell You.

[A]

The truck's still open? No. So I thought that was odd, and I didn't think twice about it. So I drove down to go get in the garage. All of a sudden, I hear this bam. But it felt like I hit something on the ground. And I thought, oh, no. What did I just hit? Right in the garage.

[B]

Like you ran over some socks.

[A]

Like I ran over a plastic, you know, bottle, but a big one. Something was.

[B]

So the trunk whacked the light.

[A]

The trunk was open in the back of my car. So I drove into the garage, and it whacked the light. And when I got out of the car, the trunk was up. I put it down. There's white paint all over the car. The car.

[B]

Oh, I haven't seen that. I have to look at that.

[A]

No, no dent. But I took the light out.

[B]

Yeah, so you did. I saw that.

[A]

Anyways, we'll fix it easily.

[B]

I can fix that light and probably.

[A]

You can buff out my white. Oh, my God.

[B]

Both of those things. Yeah, that is right. Without having to hire outside help.

[A]

Kind of funny. It was one of those moments where it was just. It was like one of those days yesterday where things just happen and you have to, like, take care of it, deal with it.

[B]

Well, there was a lot of dealing with stuff when I was away, too. And I never once put a hook in the water. I usually like to go fishing.

[A]

I know somebody asked me if you'd gone fishing, and I said, you know, I don't know.

[B]

I put a hook in the water. Didn't have time.

[A]

That's criminal.

[B]

Did not have fun, actually.

[A]

That's criminal.

[B]

Well, you know. Well, next year there'll be a few more fish left in the lake, because I didn't catch them this year. Right. So it'll be easier to catch them next year.

[A]

I was just thinking, somebody left a message on my Instagram and said, I love your podcast. It's like. It's like ketamine. It's like, what? It's like. What do they call it? They said. I couldn't figure out what they meant exactly. Something about, like, audio ketamine. Is that good or bad?

[B]

I don't know. Having never done ketamine, I don't know whether it's good or bad.

[A]

Podcast is like audio ketamine.

[B]

I do see signs along the highway that talk about ketamine treatment. Like, stuff like that. So I guess they're using ketamine, which is not. Is that. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but is that not, like an animal tranquilizer you know what?

[A]

All I know a couple things about it. I know that Eve, can you find.

[B]

Out what ketamine is?

[A]

Yeah, I think it's horse tranquilizer. It's a horse tranquil, but people use it medically now, usually I am so loud and have a lot of energy. And so I thought to relate me to ketamine was kind of interesting, you know what I mean?

[B]

Well, us, the ketamine.

[A]

Well, yeah, but I'm part of that. And you. I can understand ketamine.

[B]

What, you can understand I make people high?

[A]

No, no, no, I can understand because you're. You're very even, kind of keel like this. And so that makes sense for you, but for me, I was like, that's so interesting. I kind of like it because, you.

[B]

Know, I have another question for Eve. So I have never had ketamine, but I did have. In jail, I was forced to have to smoke pcp. Is pcp? What do you mean? What?

[A]

What do you mean? What do you mean? Well, okay, PCP is intense.

[B]

Is PCP the same thing?

[A]

No, I'm looking it up. No, no, no. PCP is like. Makes you crazy.

[B]

Well, I was put in, remember, I was arrested back in 1970 for, you know, my upper class. My upperclassmen had given me 25 pills and some. About a 25th of an ounce of grass. And that was my payment for taking these pills down to what pills? He gave me some speed that we take for exams. So we take, you know, speed. We used to take, like, white crosses for exams. It was exam season and I was at Berkeley, and my upperclassmen in the fraternity house I was living in came to me before I was going down to LA for Thanksgiving, which is right around exam time. And he said, take these pills down and give them to another house down at usc. They need these for their exams. So I take them down. And.

They didn't want the pills, they didn't take them. So I had to take them back.

[A]

What do you mean they didn't want them? Who doesn't want speed?

[B]

Well, I went to this house, the house I was told to go to. I knocked on the door and this guy came and he took the pills and he said, oh, yeah, we were waiting for these. And then he came back 10 minutes later. He said, we don't want them. Maybe they weren't what they were supposed to be. I don't know. But I was supposed to get paid 100 bucks for them. And I put him back in my guitar case and I took him back.

[A]

Up On a plane.

[B]

On a plane.

[A]

Do you think that was very smart?

[B]

Well, obviously not, because I ended up in jail.

[A]

I mean, I've never done anything like that. And I think if somebody said, would you take these pills on a plane? I would have said no.

[B]

Well, I mean, look, this is 1970. It was before.

[A]

Like, does that make you dumber in 1970? Well, nobody.

[B]

People were being arrested for drugs and stuff like that. But I didn't think this was anything.

[A]

It was like.

[B]

I thought it was. I'm just taking some stuff down to help people take exams. And so I had this tiny quantity of marijuana and then these 25 pills.

[A]

And then you couldn't have at all.

[B]

You couldn't have any marijuana. As a matter of fact, at the same. In 1970, we saw. My dad and I were driving through Nevada, and we saw a bus stop sign. You know, bus stop. In the back of a bus stop bench. It said, life sentence if caught with marijuana.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes. In Nevada in 1970. So people were treating it very harshly then. But anyway, so that's a. That's how I got into the situation. But I ended up, months and months later, being convicted. I think I've told this story already.

[A]

On the podcast, but you haven't told the PCP of it all. So that's what. Now people are like, what is that about?

[B]

I finally.

By mistake, I'm sentenced to jail. The first.

[A]

How do you mean by mistake?

[B]

Well, because the DA and my lawyer, who happened to be the most sophisticated drug lawyer in San Francisco, he was also David Crosby's lawyer of Crosby, Stills, and Nash. And I happened to find him.

[A]

That's the first thing by chance.

[B]

Boom. So my girlfriend at the time, she wasn't my girlfriend, but I wanted her to be my girlfriend. She was in the courtroom the morning I was being arraigned, and I had no money. She had no money. And so she was calling out to anybody in the lobby of the courtroom, I need a lawyer. I need a lawyer. Is there anybody who can help me? And this guy Stepanion, Michael Stepanion, who was like this incredible drug lawyer in San Francisco at the time. He said, oh, I'll help you. And so he took my case on. On pro bono, and he happened to be this huge drug lawyer. So he made a deal with the DA and with the judge, this woman, Judge Miller was her name. And the deal was that I would plead guilty to possession of prescription drugs without a prescription and get a slap on the wrist and maybe a year of probation, and I would go home.

[A]

I would not buy that. Well, I would think you would go to jail for that. No.

If you plead guilty, they're going to put you in jail.

[B]

Well, not if you make a deal. You make a deal with the DA that's the district attorney. Deal with the judge. That's the judge. Once the deal is made, you know that when you walk in and you stand up and you say, I'm guilty, they're gonna say, oh, bad boy. Here's a slap on the wrist. Go home and don't do it again. So I get to the courthouse on the morning, I'm gonna have to face the judge, right? And I find out that it's not the same judge. Judge Miller, this woman who had made the deal with the DA had gotten sick, and she wasn't there. And there was a guy named Delarios who was sitting the judge on the Gaius that day. And I kept waiting for my lawyer, Michael Stab, Companion, to come in. And I waited and I waited and I waited. And this other judge was sitting up there, and I'm all alone. I'm waiting for my name to be called. And suddenly this young kid comes in and he's all sweaty, and he's trying to get his tie all straightened. And he sits down next to me, and he says, are you Harry Hamlin? I go, yeah. He goes, okay. He said, I'm so really sorry, but Mr. Stepanion got called to Alaska last night because David Crosby got arrested yesterday in Alaska. So he flew up to Anchorage, and he's dealing with that. He said, I'm here in his place. And I go, so do you know what's going on? He goes, ye, yeah, he told me all about it. So it comes to my name. The judge asked me to stand up, and he says, how do you plead?

And I said, guilty, you, Honor, because that's the deal that we've made. And the kid says, oh, no, that's Judge Delarios. He's the hanging judge. And now I'm thinking, what's up with that, right? And so the judge looks at me and he says, young man, you're pleading guilty to possession of these drugs. And I said, yes, sir. And he goes, well, I'm looking at your history here. It looks to me like you've had all the privileges of anybody and you've thrown them away. You've tossed away all these great privileges. You said, I'm going to make a case out of this. I'm going to make this a case study. And I'm sentencing you to three years in the federal penitentiary.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes. That would have been San Quentin. Okay, so I did.

[A]

Well, you would have been in there with David Carpenter, my mom. Serial killer guy.

[B]

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, and neither could the kids. Who was next to me? The young clerk from Stepanion's office. Right. Sure.

[A]

He couldn't.

[B]

So I'm looking at the judge. The judge is looking at me, and I'm thinking, did I hear that right? Am I going to jail for three years? And the kid next to me says, yeah, you heard that right. And then the kid. Okay, this is why this kid. I gotta find him. If I could only find. I actually called Michael Stepanian a few years ago. I think he's died since then. But I asked him if he remembered who the clerk was or. He said he didn't remember the case at all. He remembered nothing about it. But this kid then looks up at the judge and. And lies through his teeth. He says, you, Honor, you can't send Mr. Hamlin to three years in the federal penitentiary because he's an asset to his community. He teaches math and English to underprivileged children twice a week. And I'm listening to this kid, and he's spinning this tale about how great I am as a citizen. And then the judge. I'm still standing up, and the judge says, Is this true, Mr. Hamlin? And the kid is, like, kicking my feet under the table because we haven't communicated about this at all. He's come up with this on the fly. Totally. And so I said, yes, you, Honor, it's true. And I'm spinning around thinking, now what? I said, I'm digging myself a big hole here. And the judge says, well, where do you do this, Mr. Hamlin? And I figured there must be an Episcopal church in Claremont, California, called All Saints, because All Episcopal Church are called All Saints. And I said, you, Honor, at the Episcopal Church in All Saints. And the kid's kicking me under the table.

[A]

Look at you two lying away.

[B]

Well, I mean, I would have gone to jail for three years. And so the judge finally takes a long time, and he thinks about it. He looks at me, and he looks at the kid, and he says, all right. He says, I understand. Okay. If you're an asset to your community, then it would be unfair to sentence you to deprive those kids of your services for three years. He said, I'm sentencing you to one year in the county jail.

[A]

Oh, still.

[B]

And then the kid says, but, your Honor, three, twice a week, these kids. And judge Goes well. Okay. All right. One year in the county jail. I'm going to suspend all but 18 days. So I had to go to jail for 18 days.

[A]

You were in jail for 18 days?

[B]

Yeah. But he managed to get it down to only on weekends because I had to be available during the week to teach the underprivileged kids math and English. Right? So I had to spend, like, four weekends in jail. And on the very first weekend that I went, because I. This gets quite complicated, but I certainly does. The warden of the jail, his brother was an actor in the acting school at Berkeley. He was playing Cyrano de Bergerac at the time. And I was being a member of the drama department at Berkeley. I knew all about him and all about Cyrano and all about the play, and I was even being considered to be an understudy for that play. So the DA and my lawyer who finally got back into town, called me up and apologized profusely for the fact the judge wasn't there, the deal wasn't honored, and I had to go through all this kasrai. And they said, listen, we want you to sit down and have a hamburger with the warden, because, you know, his brother. His brother's name was Boyd. So the guy last name was Boyd. The.

So I go to have a burger with the warden, the warden of the jail, before I go for the first time.

[A]

That's so weird. It's weird, is it not?

[B]

So I sit down with his brother, the kid who's the actor who's playing Cyrano. I sit down with the warden, and I sit down with the lawyer, and we all have a cheeseburger together. And the warden says, listen, when you get there, don't worry about anything. I'll make sure that you're okay. This is a big mistake. It never should have happened. I'll take care of you in jail. You've got to go. But I will make sure that you. Your experience is really great.

[A]

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[B]

I get to jail the first time. It's a Friday night. I get there, I show up on time. I'm put in a holding cell. And there's a kid in the holding cell who's wearing real preppy clothes, like a blue oxford cloth shirt and slacks and penny loafers. And he's crying his eyes out. And just the two of us are in there, and I kind of take pity on the kid and I say, what's going on with you? He's about my age. He goes, oh, my God. I got. I was arrested. And they found what they say is LSD in my car, and I don't know what to do. And he was being arrested for felony possession of psychedelics. So I was trying to calm the guy down. He was really freaked out. And so the guy behind the counter calls me up and he says, Mr. Hamlin, oh, I see that the warden has given you special privileges. You don't have to be strip searched. And. And then I said, well, you know, could I be put in the same cell with this kid over here who's crying? Because it turned out that that kid had gone to the rival school of mine. He went to Lawrenceville. I went to the Hill School. We were rivals on the east coast as boarding schools. So the guy said, okay, sure, because he had this note from the warden that said, take care of Mr. Hamlin. So he put me in the same cell with the kid. The only difference is that I was being convicted For a misdemeanor. The kid was being arrested for a felony. So they put cell. They didn't put him into my cell. I went into the felony cell where I was, you know, one of 12 people in the cell. And then at about 1:00 clock in the morning, the kid from Lawrenceville was bailed out.

And how come? Because somebody bailed him out, you know, his father or something bailed him out of jail. So I'm sitting in the cell with all the felons, with all the murderers, and they were murderers. And, you know, this was a bad, bad group of people. And they were all sitting around as the kid was being murdered let out. They're all sitting around in a circle around a portable television, smoking a joint, passing a joint around, right? And I thought, that's really weird. I'm in jail and they're passing a joint around. That's really bizarre. But you couldn't smell any pot or anything like that.

[A]

And the fact that you're in there.

[B]

Because of pot and I was in there because of. And I'm saying, how could they be smoking anything in jail, right? Well, pretty soon the audio level, they started screaming and it just got louder and louder and louder among these guys in the cell. And they were just being really raucous and they actually ripped the shower off the wall. There's sort of a fiberglass shower that was against the wall and they ripped it off. And I thought, where are the guards? These people are obviously like really fucked up, right? They're really stoned. There's no guards anywhere. And so finally, about 3:00 clock in the morning, I drifted off to sleep and was awakened at about 7:30am when the kid who was sleeping above me got out of his bunk and put on a suit and then left to go to court. I guess I didn't know, right? Well. And so we wake up in the morning, right? And I'm sitting at this bench and they're serving breakfast. And this guy comes over to me and he's got a joint in his hand and he says, hey, man, have some of this. I said, I'm really okay. I don't really. He's no, man, have some of this. I said, I'm really fine. I really don't want. He says, man, listen to me. As he said, have some of this. So that's how I was forced to have the pcp. Because what it was was somebody had brought in a little sack of tobacco, of rolling tobacco, and they had soaked it in pcp.

[A]

So it wasn't even marijuana?

[B]

No, it was tobacco soaked in pcp. So they were smoking it, so there was no odor, but they were highest.

[A]

And it makes you crazy. Doesn't it make you like, I was.

[B]

So stoned because the guy forced me to take three or four hits of it. Right. And I was completely messed up after I had that. So that's my PCP story. And I can't imagine if ketamine is anything like pcp, why anybody would use it to get better. It would seem like.

[A]

Well, I think it calms you down. I think ketamine is like a calming. It's a tranquilizer. So I mean, if it's a horse tranquilizer, it's a big old tranquilizer.

[B]

Oh, well, I got messed up. Eve, did we find that? Was PCP related to ketamine in any way?

[A]

They're in a similar category, but they are different. So PCP is a dissociative anesthetic, and it's known for its mind altering effects, hallucinations, distorted perceptions of sound, and psychotic behavior. So that aspect is not present with ketamine. As far as I understand. Ketamine is more of a tranquilizer, as Lisa said, it's used for depression and medical. Yeah, a lot of they're using it now. Like, therapists are using it in a controlled way to help people that are. That have depression and such.

[B]

So that could be an answer for people who have depression and stuff. Just to finish off that story. Okay. A few minutes after I was forced to smoke the PCP and got completely messed up, a phalanx of officers came in front of the cell with their batons in their fists and they said, shake down. And everybody had to. We had to leave the cell and line up against the wall with our hands against the wall. And they went in and they turned over everything in the cell. Just totally ripped everything apart. And then the warden saw me standing there and he comes over and he goes, harry, what are you doing in this cell? And I tried to explain him. I asked to go in there because the kid from Lawrenceville was there and he says, come with me. Get out of here. So he took me away and put me into a cell with minor criminals, which is where I should have been to begin with. But because he took me away, all of the guards, because I was the only person who was brought in the day before and not strip searched, you had to be. They all thought that I was the one who brought it in. I was the only person who hadn't been strip searched who Came in, Right. So all of the guards thought that the warden had given me a favor and I brought the drugs in. The warden was suspended because of this. Because all of a sudden they. So all the guards thought that I had brought it in, but because the warden came over, took me away from the lineup, all the inmates thought that I was working with the warden to get them busted. So I was like. I was getting it from both sides. I got bad treatment from both the inmates and from the guards for the rest of the time I was in jail, which is three more weekends.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It was like, weird.

[A]

Nightmare.

[B]

Yeah. They would do stuff. Like if I wanted a book, they would give me a book. I think one of the books I had was by John Fowles, and it was called the Collector or something. It was about a guy who was incarcerated. Right.

And they took out the last chapter. They gave me the book, but they tore out the last chapter. If I wanted cards, they'd give me 50 cards instead of 51 cards, 52 cards. So.

They did all kinds of stuff. Like they would drop the coffee, hand me a cup of coffee. Oh, oops. And it would fall on the ground.

[A]

It's hard for me to relate to this, but it's crazy.

[B]

Well, I highly recommend jail.

[A]

I'm. No, thanks. I'm good. You know what? I can live my life without ever being arrested and ever going to jail, thank you very much. I'll just hit lights and things, you know, with my car and, you know, silly things like that.

[B]

Anyway, no, thanks.

[A]

I'm gonna pass on that. No, I've been busy being a nurse. That's what I've been doing. I've been.

[B]

That's right. Let's talk about Delilah. Because we think. We think. We hope. We think we might have found the reason why she's had all of her health issues for the last 14 years. 10, 12, 14. Yeah.

[A]

So you know Delilah, and she has shared. I mean, I don't think we're speaking out of school. That she's had some health issues.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

What? A couple months ago, she has a modeling agent who had witnessed and been around her in different situations. And she said to her, you know what? I'm going to take you to my OBGYN because I think you have endometriosis.

[B]

Let's explain what that is. Because when I heard the word endometriosis, I did not know what it was.

[A]

Do you know what it is now?

[B]

I do know what it is, so.

[A]

Why don't you explain it?

[B]

Well, look, I'm not A doctor. From what I understand, the uterine wall has specific cells that are designed to be part of the uterine wall. They slough off once a month when you have your period and all that. And from what I understand, in some girls, a certain percentage when they get their first period, sometimes those cells have a tendency to move outside of the uterine wall and actually start replicating outside of the uterus. And then that is what is endometriosis. But maybe you can fill the endometriosis.

[A]

Well, sort of. It causes lesions, so you get these endometriosis lesions. And there's four stages of it. So you could have stage one up to stage four, which is quite advanced. And you can't really tell if you have endometriosis for real unless they go in laparoscopically.

[B]

So they can kind of see it with ultrasound, though?

[A]

No, I don't know if they can even kind of see it. They can assess by your symptoms if they think there's a really good chance that you might have it. When I finally got to talk to the doctor, she said it takes nine to 11 years, usually for someone to.

[B]

Get diagnosed and that from the moment of their first period. Yeah, okay.

[A]

Nobody really checks for it because you have to literally go in laparoscopically to prove whether you have it or not.

[B]

Are there any statistics about how many people out of like a hundred get it or out of a thousand?

[A]

There are, but I don't have them at my fingertips right now. But there definitely are. And it's more than think. And, you know, it's really interesting because during, you know, Delilah's had health issues since she was 11, and during this time, it was really interesting a couple of years ago when Delilah was really having some. Some problems. Lena Dunham, the actress, reached out to me on Instagram. That's one of the beauties of Instagram. People can DM you. You can DM people. And she DMed me and said, I think that Delilah could have endometriosis. But I was so. And she's had her. Who whole journey that she's been very. Lena's been very open about her as.

[B]

Long as she's been open about. We can talk.

[A]

Yes, of course. That's why I'm. I'm talking about it. And so is Amy Schumer, another person, and Bindi Irwin, Bindi Irwin, another person who's had endometriosis. So there's a lot of actresses and a lot of people that have come out, but of course, I didn't know that until now, really, all the symptoms.

[B]

That Delilah had were in line with the symptoms that endometriosis gives.

[A]

Well, we didn't know that at the time, but yes. And so when Lena reached out to me, I didn't pay attention. I didn't really hear her because there were other issues going on that didn't allow me to go, oh, we should check for endometriosis.

[B]

We thought we checked for so many different things.

[A]

She did have pandas.

[B]

She had pandas. We know that. But the pandas very well may be in. Somehow related to this, you know, because it's just around. Around 11 is when the hormones start working well.

[A]

And she had her. Started her period at sort of period at 14.

[B]

But there's some hormonal activity going on before that, is there not?

[A]

I believe so, probably, yes.

[B]

As your uterus is developing and you're developing those cells, who knows? We'd have to look into that more. But she had the pandas, which is pediatric autoimmune neuropsychologic disorder related to streptococcus.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And she had that when she was 11. She had it really badly. And then she developed Sibo, which is small int bacterial overgrowth. I guess your small intestine is supposed to have only a certain kind of number of bacteria. And so that was very painful for her. And she was very. That would take her offline completely. She would be bent over in a fetal position on the ground with the pain from that.

[A]

And her periods were so excruciating.

[B]

She had horrible headaches too.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This is all before she started to have her mini seizures, which were not. They were not grand mal seizures, but seizures nevertheless.

[A]

So this doctor says, I get on the phone with her and she says, I think also that her seizures have to do with endometriosis.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I'm like. And SIBO is caused most of the time by endometriosis. So all these things that had been going on that we could not find answers for.

She goes in and has the surgery finally. You know, we've been waiting for like six weeks. She gets a date. She goes in last week to have the surgery. Sure enough, she has stage one. The doctor had thought she had stage four endometriosis, but she had stage one. But the doctor said to me, stage one is more painful than stage four.

[B]

It can make you infertile too, can it?

[A]

That she wants her to freeze her egg.

[B]

Eggs, huh?

[A]

She. I mean, I haven't. We haven't discussed it since. Now that it's stage one instead of stage Four. But she had suggested that she freeze her eggs after this.

[B]

So stage four people can actually.

[A]

Well, yes, the ability. She said, if we hadn't done surgery now in two years, Delilah could have been infertile.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So cut to have the laprop laparoscopic surgery last week, and this doctor is a magician in this. She does at least four to seven a day on Friday of these endometriosis laparoscopic surgeries. Delilah goes in, she finds out it's stage one. They're lesions. And Delilah got to see what they look like. It's like canker sores. They look like.

[B]

How many did she have?

[A]

You know, I don't know, but it was. It was a lot. It was a. It was a bunch that she.

[B]

And did they say that this is a cure? Like, once you get it out, you get it out?

[A]

Hopefully, she cuts them out. And then here's another gross statistic of it, though. She had blood pooled in her pelvis. Just sitting there. Like a cup of it or more of blood sitting in her pelvis.

[B]

Where does it come from?

[A]

From the endometriosis, not from her period. So there's nowhere for it to go. If I'm correct. I'm not a doctor, but I'm trying to, you know, tell you what the.

[B]

Doctor said to Zion, and she's been feeling, like, much better. Right?

[A]

Well, she had the surgery a week ago, and I'm telling you, she's like a different person. I mean, you've seen her, but you just got back, so.

[B]

I just got back. Only seen her for a day.

[A]

I have not heard her complain about anxiety. It caused great anxiety, panic attacks, the seizures, amazing pain, headache, nausea. She has not complained of any of it in a week.

[B]

This could be it.

[A]

This could be the thing. Well, it's just, you know, I think that the subject really is. And I think it's so important to talk about women's health because it is so down on the totem pole. You know, I saw a post last week of all the men on the board talking about women's health that, you know, the president has put together. There's not a woman on that panel.

[B]

Of course not.

[A]

Women's health. There's not a woman dealing with it at all at the White House.

[B]

No. Because would there have been any women in the Handmaid's Tale in Gilead running those at? I mean.

[A]

Exactly. So, I mean, I think that now that I've, you know, really researched it, read up on what Amy Schumer's gone through. Bindi, Irwin, Lena Dunham. It's truly unbelievable what these women have gone through and how much pain and suffering and how women's health is just not a priority. I think it's so interesting that, you know, so many women probably suffer from this. And PCOS is another part of what is the pcos. PCOS is. Is like cystic things that happen on your ovaries. I think if I'm, you know, cystic.

[B]

Things that have, like, a cyst.

[A]

Like a cyst will come on your ovary, and it can burst and it can, you know, make you very bloated. And I know that a lot of women suffer from that. And it was so interesting. I was talking the other day to somebody, you know, when we were growing up, my era, that sort of thing didn't seem to be an issue.

[B]

Well, didn't. If I'm not wrong, you had some stuff removed.

[A]

Well, I had a fibroid.

[B]

Fibroid tumor.

[A]

I had a big fibroid tumor, as did my mom. So again, it's probably all very hereditary. So my mom had a fibroid tumor, and she ended up having a hysterectomy at 35 after she had me because.

[B]

Of the fibroid tumor.

[A]

The doctor was just like, well, are you gonna have any more kids? And she was like, I don't know. I don't think so. And he goes, well, let's just take it out. Oh, go that. Let's just take that uterus out.

[B]

How old were you when you had your last child? You were 39?

[A]

37. 37, but who's counting?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, I was 37 when I had Amelia. So when I was 21, I had the fibroid tumor that was this big, as big as a watermelon, big as a softball on my uterus. And so my doctor was Connie Chin at the time, I remember, and she said, I just snipped it off. But, you know, it was like having a. Having a C section. I have a C section scar. So at 21, I had that. My mom, Lois, had the fibroids and had the uterus taken out. So I'm sure it's hereditary and just, like, morphed into endometriosis.

[B]

Oh, you think they're two related?

[A]

Maybe. I don't know. I'm not a doctor again, we'll have the doctor on. I'd love to have her on. She also has a podcast.

[B]

Oh, yeah, let's have her on.

[A]

Let's have her on. So we talk about it because, you know, I love to mention it, but Again, again, I can't give you all the facts.

[B]

Let's have Delilah and the doctor on be great, right?

[A]

So great. So great. So anyway, Amelia's gonna go next week to get checked because she evidently has some cystic pcos. You didn't know that? But now she's gonna go to this doctor and get checked.

[B]

Oh, so, so better safe than sorry.

[A]

Get checked. Like if you're having really horrible periods.

[B]

But I mean, this Delilah's horrible peers. Her pain was off the charts. I mean, she would have to sleep with a heating pad every night to counteract the pain.

And her stomach was so messed up, she was taking acids all the time. She carried Peptol Bismol with her wherever she went. Yeah, very weird.

[A]

And it's really debilitating. You know, I really. Now that we've been through this with our own daughter and, and I've read these stories of all these other women that have gone through it, it is extremely debilitating and painful. So anyway, I've been a nurse. I was quite a good nurse. I will say I'm quite a good nurse.

[B]

I'm sure you are. And I always wish I had been here for the surgery thing, but I had this ice storm to deal with.

[A]

I know it's very difficult. I would say the hardest thing I had to deal with with as a nurse.

Was the dog vomited all over the bed and I had to change the sheets. And I'm going to be honest about it, changing a king size bed sheets and a duvet cover. And a duvet is not for the faint of heart. It's very difficult. It's not easy. I'm going to tell you, it is not an easy thing.

[B]

You have a duvet cover by yourself and a big king sized bed that you have to change.

[A]

Very difficult. Maybe as hard as you dealing with your ice storm tree that you.

[B]

Okay. Did it involve like electronic saws and equipment to do that?

[A]

No. But I will say that for me, it's challenging to get that stuff on. Right. The sheets.

[B]

Well, I've actually been there. You know when you alone, when you're trying to pull those sheets on, depending on who makes them, and you get one corner and then the other corner flies out and you go, but wait, wait, I just did that corner. And then you go back and you do it again and then the other corner flies out. I've been down that route.

[A]

I know people are relating. It took me like 45 minutes, minutes to literally change an entire king sized bed. I had to wash the sheets Two, wash them, dry them, then put them all back on.

[B]

Come to being a housewife and a mother. Okay, There you go. Housewife Lisa. Okay.

[A]

It was comical. And if I'd had a camera on it, you could have seen the visuals and laughed.

[B]

But I think you screaming, like, screaming at the sheets.

[A]

I was laughing. I was actually laughing about it because it was like a Chinese puzzle at times. You know, you'd get the sheet off wrong, so you're not putting it on, so you have to turn it around. I mean, it was comical. Me changing sheet, changing a bed. That was my hardest thing. Everything else I handled fine.

[B]

Well, I'm glad to hear that. Okay, so she's. Hopefully she's on the mend, I think so.

[A]

She's out driving.

[B]

She's out. She's out, yeah.

[A]

So I don't want Cheers to that. I'm so happy about it. It's so nice to see you that, that. I think this is going to take care of a lot of things. I do.

[B]

Oh, let's hope so.

[A]

I'm very hopeful about it, but we just got to find a way to focus on women's health and support that more.

[B]

Well, I think we need to bring Delil in and the doctor who, by the way, when I looked up the top endometriosis doctors in Los Angeles, her name was at the very top.

[A]

I'm very grateful to her.

[B]

You got two. Two. Two patients of ours. So there you go. Well, it's, you know, it's been an interesting month. Month for a lot of things, too. I mean, how about the fact that the sauce is now in Gelson's?

[A]

Yes. Congratulations. That's my favorite market, by the way.

[B]

That's your favorite market?

[A]

I love Gelson's. I go. That's where I'll go.

[B]

I love my Gelson's. Our first congrats, big retail deal was with Gelson's, which is like the best store to go to in la. I love Gelson's, Gelson's, Whole Foods, and Bristol Farms. They're the top of the heap in la.

[A]

I know. I shop at all of them, Harry.

[B]

I know you do. Believe me, I see the bill. We want to be in thousands of stores within a couple of years. Why not? Because we're an impact company. We want to change the whole food system in America by only providing the most clean food with absolutely no preservatives. And you can make all the stuff at home. We give you the recipe, how you cook it and stuff like that. So it's really exciting.

[A]

I know it is. That's a hard business, that food business. It's not easy.

[B]

Yeah, Well, I mean, when you make a product that tastes like ours was so good, it's so clean, doesn't have any stuff in it.

[A]

Delish. And you saw Dorinda Medley.

[B]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

Did a live TikTok. Making lasagna with your sauce, with the marinara sauce.

[B]

The marinara number seven, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, that's an amazing sauce because it has seven vegetables in it.

[A]

Delicious.

[B]

And then tomatoes are a fruit. So it says seven vegetables plus, plus tomatoes or fruit.

[A]

Yeah. So that was cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was one of the first things she said to me when we were.

[B]

In the castle doing Traders, Right.

[A]

She said, I need to get that sauce and make my lasagna. And I said, I will make sure you have that sauce by the time you get home.

[B]

She liked it?

[A]

I think so, yeah.

[B]

I hope so.

[A]

I hope so, too. I actually didn't see the final because it was live.

[B]

Oh, well, it's damn good sauce, so I'm sure she liked it.

[A]

She did, too. She was at Bluestone Manor, which is this house she had with her second husband, who passed away, and it's in New York or something back east in the Berkshires. Massachusetts. The Berkshires. It's really cool. I mean, I've only seen it on tv, but now that I. Now that I know and have worked with Dorinda, all my gays, all they want is to go to Bluestone Manor.

[B]

Oh. Because what?

[A]

They just want to go.

[B]

It's just a beautiful place. Gorgeous spot.

[A]

It's iconic, too. Like, it's. It's iconic in housewife history land. And so all the gays are calling me, saying, I. Please. And then my publicist, Jeffrey, who just got married, congrats to Jeffrey and Kyle, he's like, oh, my God, if I. If we could have that as our wedding gift.

[B]

But to go to Bluestone Manor to have your wedding at Bluestone Manor.

[A]

No, they want to go there. And I'm like, well, I can't really give you that. Exactly. Unless Dorinda says, yeah, come on for the weekend.

[B]

Sort of like Downton Abbey or something.

[A]

Yeah, kind of.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

I mean, it looks like that. Like, it's big and has a bunch of rooms. Like, there's a shark room that I think Countess Luann stayed in. Like, a lot of drama happens. As a student, they'd go there, so.

[B]

They would take the cast all the way to the Berkshires for that.

[A]

Of course, it's free. It's her house. They're so fucking cheap. They'll go anywhere. That's. I can say that they're so fucking cheap, they'll use anything that you have. And it's cool. So she'd have everybody go and stay there and, you know, drama would ensue. You know, I think the New York cast, and I'm gonna say this is the most iconic of all of the Housewives wives. Those first few years on, I've never seen.

[B]

Did you see them all?

[A]

I've seen a bunch. And Amelia's watching it now. It's so icon. Those women are so iconic. I mean, on just another level, I have to say. So that group is the most iconic of all the Housewife franchises.

[B]

You're the only iconic one.

[A]

Well, thank you, Harry. I appreciate that you're a little biased, but I will say, coming from. From another franchise, that, to me, is the OG OG franchise of the entire thing. It's true. And I'm not just saying that, you know, I wouldn't say that if I didn't feel it.

[B]

No, of course. Because you would say that. You're. The Beverly Hills one was the best.

[A]

They are.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We come a close. We come a close second, I think, in Atlanta, probably all together. But New York takes it. Takes it for sure.

[B]

I let them have it.

[A]

Amelia's watching it now, and I'll walk in and I'll see certain moments that are iconic. You know, they're just moments in Zeitgeist history that are like, oh, my God. And they just live. They'll live forever. It's true. And so the Shark room is one of her rooms at Bluestone.

[B]

That's a very good plug for the New York franchise.

[A]

Well, it's gone.

There's no such thing anymore, Harry. They got rid of it. You know, they had some issues, you know, issues that go on. They had a little issue thing happen and they decided to reboot it. You know what that means?

[B]

Yeah, of course. I.

[A]

They reboot it and they. They get a whole new cast sometimes. That's didn't work. No.

[B]

Oh, really? So they canceled it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

New York is canceled?

[A]

Well, no. Is it officially canceled? Cindy Cohen would say no, it's not. They're. They're. They're recasting it again or they're rebooting again. Listen, everybody has their own drama from House, clearly. I have mine, they have theirs, but they went bye bye. Like, it's bye bye. But I think because it's so iconic, they'll try To, I personally think. Which is probably too expensive, but they should just get that iconic group back.

[B]

Do. Oh, really? Is they have the all star group come back. Yeah. Wouldn't they have to pay them through the nose to bring them back, though? They have to have a Brinks truck drive.

[A]

I don't know. Everyone's so desperate at certain times. They. They would probably all go back.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Well, we're not desperate. Thank God you're not desperate. Man, do we have so many projects going right now.

[A]

I know. I wish we could talk about them. We have some exciting things that we're working on because we're just worker bees like that. And we hustle.

[B]

We're creators. We're creators.

[A]

And we have some things in the hopper that are very out of the ordinary and exciting that I wish we could talk about right now. We can't. So we're gonna give you a little tease of it.

[B]

We're just teasing you a little bit. But when these things happen, they are. Are going to become iconic for sure.

[A]

Oh, I had dinner, by the way, with Erica and Dorit while you were gone.

[B]

Oh, really? And. And what was the subject?

[A]

Well, I mean, you know, all that gets talked. They're filming right now, so all that really gets talked about is the show. The show. But, you know, I love those girls. And it was. It was fun. We went to Funk Funky Funke in Beverly Hills. I think it's F u n k E. It's a very happening, like, Italian restaurant. It has a rooftop bar. And it was. It was some kind of like, full moon thing or something. Anyway, we're up there on the deck. There's like an outdoor deck in Beverly Hills. You can sit up there and have a drink. And anyway, so it's Erica, myself and Dorit, and we were sitting across the other because there's a couch area outside and we're having a cocktail and these girls across from us wanted to, like, celebrate this, you know, full moon thing. So we had a cute little moment with them and then they were fans. Yeah, they were young, though. They were like 20. They were like the girls age.

[B]

I mean, I have to tell you that when I run into people who recognize me from your show, the vast majority of them are like 15, 16, 17 years old. They're children.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes. I mean, I don't understand that, but the children come up to me and they go, oh, my God, you're Ariel. You're Lisa, Rinna's husband. Oh, my God. God, let's not talk about you.

[A]

Anyway, what does that feel like?

[B]

Well, I mean, I'm just very pleased that they're kids.

[A]

Yeah. There is a young demographic out there. Kids were like. They were like 22, 23.

[B]

Yeah. And these kids that they're coming through are even younger. Oh, my God. Yeah. And they're like 15.

[A]

Crazy, isn't it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was fun to see the girls, though. They were just about ready to go on their trip. They went to Ibiza, right? No, they went to Florence. Oh, no, our kids went to Ibiza. Ibiza.

[B]

Which kids went to Florence?

[A]

No, the housewives. Oh, the housewives. Dorit and Erica.

[B]

You called them kids. It was so fun to see the kids. Did she not say that?

[A]

I think you were saying the kids who joined you. Right. Because you met the girls, the kid. The girls across from us were nice, but I wouldn't call Dorit and Erica kids. No, I don't think she.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

No, they were going to Florida, Florence, as their trip. I'm trying to think if there's anything I can say about that dinner, because people are like, what happened at the dinner?

Well.

[B]

Oh, is there something about to come out? You're about to let a cat out of the bag.

[A]

No, I have to be careful about that kind of thing.

[B]

Out of the bag.

[A]

I have to be careful about that sort of thing. Yeah.

[B]

Once again, everybody, thanks for checking in. Let's not talk about me. I'm the husband.

[A]

And don't smoke pcp. That's the lesson here. Don't take a joint laced with pcp.

[B]

Don't go to jail. And don't take. Don't carry anything for an upperclassman when you're in a fraternity.

[A]

No drugs on a plane, guys. No.

[B]

Anyway, thanks for checking in.

[A]

Woo. Thanks for listening to our show. You can catch new episodes every Friday.

[B]

And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss anything.

[A]

Yeah. And if you liked what you heard.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

And I'm Harry R. Hamlin on Instagram.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So see you next week.

[A]

Until then, let's not talk about the husband.

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