Let's Not Talk About The Husband — "Unpacking Lisa's Last Year on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"

Host: Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin
Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast: Dear Media

Episode Overview

This episode centers on Lisa Rinna reflecting candidly on her final year with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) — the strain, personal revelations, therapy, and public reaction. Lisa and Harry also discuss career highlights past and present, pop culture moments, navigating fame, aging in Hollywood, wellness, and a dash of their signature marital banter. The tone is humorous, no-nonsense, occasionally irreverent, and introspective.

Key Themes & Segments

1. Merch, Sauce, & Shout-Outs (00:27–05:00)

• Lisa and Harry banter about studio life, Lisa’s new Rihanna T-shirt, and a playful critique of Lisa’s latest “Own It, Baby” merch (“The own it part kind of gets lost. Isn’t Own it the crux of the matter?” – Harry, 01:53).
• Lisa plugs upcoming merch, Harry’s pasta sauce (now at Gelson’s, Jade’s Market, and Amazon), and reflects on the pride of seeing their names “on the shelf with the sauces” (Lisa, 03:15).
• The couple celebrates being busy entrepreneurs: “You got your merch and my merch and Rihanna’s merch. What else do we have to push?” (Harry, 04:42).

2. Industry Chatter & Name-Dropping (05:00–09:14)

• Harry shares admiration for Vince Gilligan (Breaking Bad), especially that the “Hamlin and Hamlin” law firm was named for him, “but Vince, I love the fact…but how about naming a character, having me play a character on your show?” (Harry, 05:18).
• They attended the “Pluribus” premiere (Vince Gilligan’s new series), discussing its meaning (“E pluribus unum” explained at 06:40) and the star-studded event—Lisa was “a little starstruck” sitting next to Reba McEntire and seeing Carol Burnett: “Carol fucking Burnett. Sorry I had to say it like that.” (Lisa, 08:04).
• Lisa credits Carol Burnett and Sonny & Cher for inspiring her, leading into frank talk about ambition: “I just wanted to be famous.” (Lisa, 09:14).

3. The Mechanics & Meaning of Fame (09:14–11:38)

• Harry and Lisa talk about their divergent approaches to fame:
  • Lisa: “What feels great about [being famous]? Well, the best thing about it is I wanted to do it and I did it.” (09:25)
  • Harry: “I’ve spent my whole career trying not to be famous.” (09:50)
• Unique perks (restaurant tables, making fans happy, the shift from autographs to selfies).
• Lisa uses fame for creativity and good (charity, promoting products, activism). “I love to be creative and I love to express myself … That’s why I love Instagram and TikTok so much.” (Lisa, 10:59)

4. Social Media, Activism, and Public Critique (11:38–13:13)

• Lisa reflects on “reactionary” behavior during her last years on RHOBH, especially on Instagram: “I became quite reactionary for a year or two, could have been more.” (Lisa, 12:17)
• A fan encounter at an event affirms Lisa’s outspokenness, “Oh, I follow you because I really like how you stand up and speak your mind and express yourself.” (12:08)

5. Deep Dive: Lisa’s Last Year on Housewives (12:41–23:10)

Therapy & Self-Reflection (12:55–13:42, 16:52–20:23)

• Lisa is actively processing her RHOBH experience in therapy:
  • “I am literally breaking it down right now … so that I can really process it and see what I did and how I created it and what happened.” (Lisa, 12:55)
  • On becoming a scapegoat: “I became a really good scapegoat … it was very easy for me to be scapegoated in that situation” (19:05)
  • Her mother’s death made her more vulnerable, leading to “my downfall that year, because it became way too much. I couldn’t handle it anymore.” (Lisa, 20:08)

Cast Dynamics & Production Pressures (16:03–16:28, 17:00–17:42)

• A fan’s take: Lisa seemed “crazy” because “you were carrying the whole show on your back, of course.” (16:03)
• Harry recalls: “production would come… and say, ‘something’s got to happen here,’ … and you would always pick up that mantle and run with it.” (16:03)

Drinking, Comments, and Rules (17:42–18:52)

• Harry set ground rules for Lisa joining RHOBH: “I insist that you not look at the message boards… and you mustn’t drink. And you didn’t… for five years.” (Harry, 18:12)
• Lisa later loosened those boundaries but insists drinking wasn’t a major factor in her on-screen behavior.

Key Moments & Exit from RHOBH (20:23–23:10)

• Lisa shares the emotional final reunion:
  • Erica Girardi's intervention: “You can never come back to this show. You must leave and not come back. … You can’t do this anymore. I want you to go, and I don’t want to see you back.” (Lisa, 21:02–21:18)
  • Lisa immediately quit via email to the network head that night (“Bada bing, bada bing, bada boom.” – Harry, 20:49).
• Personal symbolism: Lisa brought a ceramic bird from her late mother to the reunion; it accidentally broke, which she took as “a sign from the universe. It is done.” (Lisa, 23:10)

6. Careers Now, Getting Older, and Thriving (24:41–34:41)

• Harry is filming “Mayfair Witches” season 3, may have his first love scene in decades (“I haven’t had any love scenes in, like, 25 years” – Harry, 26:15), discusses the “intimacy coordinator” industry shift post-MeToo.
• Lisa notes she's thriving more with endorsements and opportunities in her 60s than ever (“It is pretty phenomenal and I think it’s so great for the kids to see it.” – Lisa, 29:33).
• Both reflect on the baby boomer generation’s impact on the entertainment industry’s demographics: “Our audience is still the biggest audience.” (Harry, 31:01)
• Lisa: “When I was growing up, if you were in your 60s, you were old… now it’s such an exciting time to… look good and thrive.” (31:08)

7. Health and Longevity (32:04–34:41)

• The couple discusses Dr. Peter Attia’s Outlive and takeaways on aging well:
  • “The top one…by far, is exercise. Below that…is sleep…then nutrition… and then the last one is to have a great family, friendship, life.” (Harry, 32:35)
  • “At 75 is where it drops off the cliff…” (Lisa, 34:00)
• Lisa describes her own fitness efforts and hiking routines; Harry jokes about bursitis and getting older.

8. Personal Updates & Housewives Connections (35:02–37:04)

• Lisa’s joyful run-in with RHOBH co-stars Kyle and Teddy on a hiking trail: “We’re jumping up and down, seeing each other for, like, a minute.” (35:31)
• Updates on Teddy’s health: “Her cancer is undetectable right now. That’s amazing.” (Lisa, 35:38)
• Recent dinner with Erica, Teddy, and Kyle at Craig’s.

9. Home, Appliances, & Playful Marital Banter (37:13–42:36)

• Ongoing saga with a new refrigerator; Lisa’s adventures at a high-end appliance store (“Snyder Diamond”) and negotiating for discounts.
• Lisa is offered but refuses a $25,000 toilet as a gift: “No, I’d rather have a Hermes bag than a fancy toilet.” (Lisa, 38:56)
• Harry teases her about her new love of home stores (“What happened to you, Lisa, the appliance store’s now getting you off?” – Harry, 38:42).
• Lisa refrains from buying a new sink to avoid “send[ing] him over the edge.” (40:41)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fame:

  • Lisa: “I just wanted to be famous. It’s true.” (09:14)
  • Harry: “I’ve spent my whole career trying not to be famous.” (09:50)

• On Housewives & Accountability:

  • Lisa: “I am literally breaking it down right now [in therapy]…what I did and how I created it and what happened. And it’s very valuable.” (12:55)
  • Harry: “That last year you were walking on hot coals most of the time.” (12:41)
  • Lisa: “You can never come back to this show. You must leave and not come back.” (quoting Erica, 21:02)

• On Career Longevity:

  • Lisa: “I’m getting more work and endorsements in my career right now than I ever have at this age. It is pretty phenomenal…” (29:33)
  • Harry: “Our audience is still the biggest audience.” (31:01)

• On Health:

  • Harry: “The top one…by far, is exercise. Below that…is sleep…then nutrition…[finally] have a great family, friendship, life.” (32:35)
  • Lisa: “At 75 it drops off the cliff. So you have to really…Oh, no, really.” (34:00)

• On Marital Banter:

  • Lisa (appliance shopping): “No, I don’t want that. No…I’d rather have a Hermes bag than a fancy toilet.” (38:56)
  • Harry: “Well, that refrigerator is not cheap.” (38:12)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Merch & Sauce Chat: 00:27–05:00
• “Pluribus” Premiere & Name-Dropping: 05:00–09:14
• Fame, Creativity, & Social Media: 09:14–13:13
• Housewives Therapy & Breakdown: 13:13–23:10
• Careers & Aging in Hollywood: 24:41–34:41
• Health & Wellness Talk: 32:04–34:41
• Housewives Connections: 35:02–37:04
• Home Talk & Marital Banter: 37:13–42:36

Tone & Style

Throughout the episode, Lisa’s openness about her struggles and triumphs is balanced by Harry’s good-natured skepticism and playful support. There’s warmth, wit, a willingness to “own it,” and the unfiltered honesty that defines both their marriage and public personas.

Summary Usefulness:
Perfect for listeners eager to understand Lisa’s RHOBH exit, the realities of reality TV, and how this Hollywood couple navigates fame, aging, and reinvention — all with humor, vulnerability, and mutual support.