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March 25, 2025. On March 25, 1911, Frances Perkins was visiting with a friend who lived near Washington Square in New York City when they heard fire engines and screams. They rushed out to the street to see what the trouble was. A fire had broken out in a garment factory on the upper floors of a building on Washington Square, and the blaze ripped through the lint in the the only way out was down the elevator, which had been abandoned at the base of its shaft, or through an exit to the roof. But the factory owner had locked the roof exit that day because, he later testified, he was worried some of his workers might steal some of the blouses they were making. The people had just begun to jump when we got there, Perkins later recalled. They had been holding until that time, standing in the window sills being crowded by others behind them, the fire pressing closer and closer, the smoke closer and closer. Finally, the men were trying to get out this thing that the firemen carry with them, a net to catch people if they do jump. They were trying to get that out, and they couldn't wait any longer. They began to jump. The weight of the bodies was so great at the speed at which they were traveling that they broke through the net. Every one of them was killed. Everybody who jumped was killed. It was a horrifying spectacle. By the time the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire was out, 147 young people were dead, either from their fall from the factory windows or from smoke inhalation. Perkins had few illusions about industrial America. She had worked in a settlement house in an impoverished immigrant neighborhood in Chicago and was the head of the New York office of the National Consumers League, urging consumers to use their buying power to demand better conditions and wages for workers. But even she was shocked by the scene she witnessed on March 25. By the next day, New Yorkers were gathering to talk about what had happened on their watch. I can't begin to tell you how disturbed the people were everywhere, Perkins said. It was as though we had all done something wrong. It shouldn't have been. We were sorry. We didn't want it that way. We hadn't intended to have 147 girls and boys killed in a factory. It was a terrible thing for the people of the city of New York and the state of New York to face the Democratic majority leader in the New York legislature. Al Smith, who would a few years later go on to four terms as New York governor and become the Democratic presidential nominee in 1924, went to visit the families of the dead to express his sympathy and his grief. It was a human, decent, natural thing to do, Perkins said. And it was a sight. He never forgot. It burned it into his mind. He also got to the morgue. I remember just at the time when the survivors were being allowed to sort out the dead and see who was theirs and who could be recognized. He went along with a number of others to the morgue to support and help. You know, the old father or the sorrowing sister do her terrible picking out. This was the kind of shock that we all had, Perkins remembered. The next Sunday, concerned New Yorkers met at the metropolitan opera house with the conviction that something must be done. We've got to turn this into some kind of victory, some kind of constructive action. One man contributed 25,000 to fund citizens action to make sure this kind of thing can never happen again. The gathering appointed a committee which asked the legislature to create a bipartisan commission to figure out how to improve fire safety in factories. For four years, Frances Perkins was their chief investigator. She later explained that although their mission was to stop factory fires, we went on and kept expanding the function of the commission till it came to be the report on sanitary conditions and to provide for their removal and to report all kinds of unsafe conditions and then to report all kinds of human conditions that were unfavorable to the employees, including long hours, including low wages, including the labor of children, including the overwork of women, including homework put out by the factories to be taken home by the women. It included almost everything you could think of that had been in agitation for years. We were authorized to investigate and report and recommend action on all of these subjects, and they did. Al Smith was the speaker of the house when they published their report and soon would become governor. Much of what the commission recommended became law. Perkins later mused that perhaps the new legislation to protect workers had in some way paid the debt society owed to the young people who died in the triangle shirtwaist fire. The extent to which this legislation in New York marked a change in American political attitudes and policies towards social responsibility can scarcely be overrated, she said. It was, I am convinced, a turning point. But she was not done. In 1919, over the fervent objections of men, Governor Smith appointed Perkins to the New York state industrial commission to help weed out the corruption that was weakening the new laws. She continued to be one of his closest advisors on labor issues. In 1929, when Franklin Delano Roosevelt replaced Smith as New York governor, he appointed Perkins to oversee the state's labor department. As the depression worsened, when president Herbert Hoover claimed that unemployment was ending. Perkins made national news when she repeatedly called him out with figures proving the opposite and said his misleading statements were cruel and irresponsible. She began to work with leaders from other states to figure out how to protect workers and promote employment by working together. In 1933, after the people had rejected Hoover's plan to let the depression burn itself out, President elect Roosevelt asked Perkins to serve as secretary of labor in his administration. She accepted only on the condition that he back her goals. Unemployment insurance, health insurance, old age insurance, a 40 hour workweek, a minimum wage, an abolition of child labor, she later recalled. I remember he looked so startled and he said, well, do you think it can be done? She promised to find out. Once in office, Perkins was a driving force behind the administration's massive investment in public works projects. To get people back to work. She urged the government to spend $3.3 billion on schools, roads, housing and post offices. Those projects employed more than a million people in 1934. In 1935, FDR signed the Social Security act, providing ordinary Americans with unemployment insurance, aid to homeless, dependent and neglected children, funds to promote maternal and child welfare, and public health services. In 1938, Congress passed the Fair Labor Standards act, which established a minimum wage and maximum hours. It banned child labor. Frances Perkins and all those who worked with her transformed the horror of the Triangle shirtwaist fire into the heart of our nation's basic social safety net. There is always a large horizon. There is much to be done, perkins said. It is up to you to contribute some small part of to a program of human betterment for all time.
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Letters from an American was written and read by Heather Cox Richardson. It was produced at Soundscape Productions, Dedham, MA. Recorded with music composed by Michael Moss, it.
Letters from an American: March 25, 2025 – Episode Summary
In the March 25, 2025 episode of Letters from an American, host Heather Cox Richardson delves into a pivotal moment in American labor history—the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire of 1911—and explores the enduring legacy of Frances Perkins, a key figure in shaping the nation's social safety net. This episode intricately weaves historical narration with insightful analysis, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of how a tragic event catalyzed significant political and social reforms.
The episode opens with a gripping recount of the catastrophic Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire that erupted on March 25, 1911, in New York City. Frances Perkins, who would later become the first female U.S. Secretary of Labor, was present near Washington Square when the disaster occurred. Richardson narrates:
[00:07] “A fire had broken out in a garment factory on the upper floors of a building on Washington Square... The only way out was down the elevator, which had been abandoned at the base of its shaft, or through an exit to the roof.”
Perkins witnessed firsthand the chaos and desperation as workers attempted to escape the flames. The tragedy was compounded by the factory owner's decision to lock the roof exits, leading to the heartbreaking loss of 147 lives, either from the fall or smoke inhalation.
Richardson highlights Perkins' immediate response to the disaster, noting her deep shock despite her prior involvement in labor advocacy:
[00:07] “By the time the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire was out, 147 young people were dead... Perkins had few illusions about industrial America.”
Perkins' background as the head of the New York office of the National Consumers League had already positioned her as a formidable advocate for workers' rights, but the Triangle fire profoundly impacted her commitment to enacting systemic change. Her firsthand experience underscored the urgent need for improved workplace safety and labor conditions.
The following day, New Yorkers were galvanized by the fire, leading to widespread public mourning and demands for accountability. Governor Al Smith, then Democratic majority leader in the New York legislature, took a compassionate and proactive stance in the aftermath:
[00:07] “He went along with a number of others to the morgue to support and help... It was a human, decent, natural thing to do, Perkins said.”
Smith's empathy and leadership spurred the creation of a bipartisan commission tasked with improving fire safety in factories. Frances Perkins served as the chief investigator for this commission, which initially aimed to prevent future fires but rapidly expanded its scope to include broader sanitary and labor conditions:
[00:07] “We went on and kept expanding the function of the commission till it came to be the report on sanitary conditions and to provide for their removal... It included almost everything you could think of that had been in agitation for years.”
The commission's comprehensive recommendations laid the groundwork for significant labor reforms, many of which were subsequently enacted into law. Perkins reflected on the monumental impact of these changes:
“Perhaps the new legislation to protect workers had in some way paid the debt society owed to the young people who died in the Triangle Shirtwaist fire... It was, I am convinced, a turning point.”
Frances Perkins' dedication did not end with the initial reforms. In 1919, despite resistance, Governor Smith appointed her to the New York State Industrial Commission to combat corruption undermining the new laws. Her close advisory role continued as she served under Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt in overseeing the state's labor department.
As the Great Depression unfolded, Perkins emerged as a critical voice against President Herbert Hoover's ineffective policies. Her persistent advocacy for honest reporting and substantial measures to alleviate unemployment highlighted her unwavering commitment to labor rights:
[00:07] “She began to work with leaders from other states to figure out how to protect workers and promote employment by working together.”
In 1933, President-elect Roosevelt recognized her invaluable expertise and appointed her as Secretary of Labor, a position she accepted on the condition that Roosevelt support her ambitious agenda, which included:
Richardson recounts a pivotal moment when Perkins secured Roosevelt's backing:
[00:07] “I remember he looked so startled and he said, well, do you think it can be done? She promised to find out.”
Under Perkins' leadership, the Department of Labor spearheaded substantial public works projects, employing over a million people by 1934. Her efforts culminated in the passage of landmark legislation:
These foundational laws transformed the American workforce and established the social safety nets that protect millions to this day.
The episode concludes by emphasizing how Frances Perkins turned the tragedy of the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire into a catalyst for enduring social reform. Her relentless pursuit of workers' rights and social justice not only honored the memory of those lost but also fundamentally reshaped American political attitudes and policies towards social responsibility.
Perkins' legacy, as portrayed by Richardson, serves as a testament to the profound impact one dedicated individual can have on society. Her work laid the foundation for modern labor laws and social welfare programs, ensuring that the sacrifices of the past continue to benefit future generations.
[00:07] “There is always a large horizon. There is much to be done... contribute some small part to a program of human betterment for all time.”
Heather Cox Richardson's narration brings to life the historical events and personal dedication of Frances Perkins, offering listeners both an informative and inspiring account of a critical chapter in American history.
Production Credits:
Letters from an American was written and read by Heather Cox Richardson. The episode was produced at Soundscape Productions in Dedham, MA, and features music composed by Michael Moss.