CboysTV on Leaving Cormorant, Kens Secret Life, & Tax Evasion

Summary

Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode: Leaving Cormorant, Ken’s Secret Life & Tax Evasion
Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Ken, Evan, Micah

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, the CboysTV crew pack in stories about their Thanksgiving, Ken’s surprising secret life, debate over laundry habits, business moves, and a deep-dive into the drama of automotive tax evasion (including WhistlinDiesel’s current legal debacle). They blend hilarious nostalgia, down-to-earth business talk, and candid takes on YouTube trends, all with their typical irreverent banter and Midwestern charm.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Recaps, Family Dynamics & Changing Traditions

• The crew shares how Thanksgiving has evolved, from wild story-sharing to family-focused events dominated by kids.
• Ryan: “Once you guys have little gremlins running around, like, the whole dynamic changes.” (07:18)
• Discussion about navigating double family meals and the challenge of overeating.
• Mike: “That’s a lot of food for me. I had to ration heavily.” (06:59)

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2. Laundry Wars & Clothing Habits

• Disagreement over the necessity of washing hoodies and pants after each wear.
• Ken: “Anytime you take it off, throw in the hamper, and then straight in the washer.” (03:16)
• Ryan: “That’s what big laundry has taught Ken.” (03:21)
• Anecdotes about partners insisting that new clothes be washed before wearing.

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3. CboysTV Gear Launch & Testing

• The team excitedly previews their new Life Wide Open Gear, including jackets and monosuits.
• CJ: “We’ve been working on this gear brand for the last two years… it’s fitting the Life Wide Open brand.” (23:54)
• They emphasize quality, real-world testing, and affordable pricing for ‘normal people’ who enjoy casual outdoor adventures over extreme sports.

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4. Addiction Swaps & Dangerous Fun

• Ken admits to conquering vaping, only to pick up online gambling.
• Ken: “I've kind of replaced vaping with online gambling, and it’s gotten a little destructive.” (10:40)
• The group teases about the slippery slope of online betting and the family dice games that ended in Ryan’s mom cleaning out his wallet.
• Ryan: “So, yeah, I got my mom addicted to gambling, so, you know, that’s not good.” (12:05)

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5. Nostalgia: Vinyl Records, Dad’s Car Stories & Early Cboys

• Unboxing a signed Rick Duff vinyl, reminiscing about the “Ford Ranger” track and music video production.
• Diving into the resurgence of vinyl, the charm of full-album listening, and the impracticality of old-school CD players in cars.
• Ben shares a story about his dad rolling a replica Cobra car:
  • Ryan: “That’s got to be not the ideal car to crash or roll.” (21:40)
• The gang recall how Ken received his nickname—by reluctantly drifting his Subaru and earning comparisons to Ken Block.
  • Ryan: “That’s how we became friends. Just, like, rip laps around the field.” (48:31)

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6. Tax Evasion Deep-Dive: The WhistlinDiesel Saga

• Hot take on YouTuber WhistlinDiesel’s run-in with Tennessee tax authorities for using a Montana LLC to dodge state sales tax.
• CJ: “He got jammed up for tax evasion, but he actually paid his taxes… it was basically just on the car sales tax end of things.” (30:07)
• Ryan: “If you’re going to be rich and play the system, you can’t also be publicizing that you’re playing the system.” (31:13)
• The group considers whether loopholes like these should be legal, and why the state chose to make an example of a high-profile figure.
• The consensus: Even legal loopholes can backfire when you go public, and the government always wins.

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7. Social Media & YouTube Updates: SteveWillDoIt Returns

• Speculation over SteveWillDoIt’s return to YouTube, doubts about his consistency, and whether flashy, cash-giveaway content still works.
• CJ: “He’s got a die hard audience, that’s for sure… I just don’t know if he’ll have as much reason to work as hard as he did back then.” (55:22)
• The hosts critique his controversial Impaulsive appearance and ponder public loyalty to internet personalities even after major scandals.
• CJ: “He was my favorite YouTuber back when he was posting.” (60:37)

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8. Wild YouTube Finds & Human Endurance

• The guys rave about a Red Bull athlete who skied down Everest without oxygen and a man walking around the world for nearly 28 years.
  • Ryan: “It’s a crazy, crazy video, dude. I’m gonna watch that… skiing down Everest takes that long.” (62:24)

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9. Changing Times: Black Friday, Deals, and Consumer Behavior

• Reminiscing about the chaos of old-school Black Friday store brawls, compared to today’s orderly (and mostly online) massive sales.
• CJ: “Dude, people used to, like, die on Black Friday… now it’s like, they’re running Black Friday deals in October.” (75:16)
• The group reacts to viral fight videos and discusses whether panic-buying is still a thing.

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10. Ken's Secret Life & Living Arrangements

• Ken reveals he keeps parts of his life compartmentalized—using his given name, Grant, in formal or business settings and Ken online.
  • Ken: “It's just nice being able to like, keep certain parts of the life separate.” (52:15)
• Talks about moving out of CJ’s basement, plans for his new house, and being “evicted” by a home renovation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ryan, on family gambling: “Yeah, I got my mom addicted to gambling, so that’s not good.” (12:05)
• Ken, on replacing vices: “I’ve kind of replaced vaping with online gambling, and it’s gotten a little destructive.” (10:40)
• CJ, on gear mission: “We wanted to make gear that represents those people 100—guys riding dirt bikes on the weekend, or hopping on your bike after work.” (25:24)
• Ben, on Black Friday rationale: “My mom has a famous Black Friday shopping line… ‘we saved more than we spent.’” (79:51)
• Ryan, on tax evasion: “If you’re going to be rich and play the system, you can’t also be publicizing that you’re playing the system.” (31:13)
• CJ, on Ken's alter ego: “Do you feel like this is kind of like an alter ego of yours that has just became your new personality?” (52:05)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:16 – Laundry/Daily Clothes Arguments
• 10:40 – Ken swaps vaping for gambling
• 12:05 – Ryan gets his mom hooked on dice games
• 22:34 – Launch announcement for new “Life Wide Open Gear”
• 30:07–34:49 – WhistlinDiesel’s tax evasion explained and debated
• 48:31 – Ken’s origin story as the group’s legendary drifter
• 55:22–56:54 – SteveWillDoIt’s return, internet loyalty, and Impaulsive fallout
• 62:24 – Red Bull Mount Everest ski descent video
• 75:16 – Remembering real Black Friday battles
• 52:15 – Ken on living dual lives (Grant vs Ken)
• 68:02 – Ken moving out, evicted by a basement remodel

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Tone, Style & Energy

The guys keep the tone light, self-deprecating, and packed with classic CboysTV camaraderie. It’s a fast-moving episode with plenty of inside jokes, raw honesty, and a subtle throughline about how both business and personal lives evolve—but never lose their ability to surprise. Whether talking gear launches, legal controversies, or sorting out who still washes their hoodie every night, the Cboys bring realness and contagious laughs.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary brings you the best of the banter, the business, and the behind-the-scenes that keep Life Wide Open so fun to watch—and even more fun to be a part of.

Transcript

[Ryan]

Yeah, we've always been buddies, Ken. Against Ken's will. I used to think that you were just a legend, Ryan.

[Ben]

Really?

[CJ]

He used to.

[Ben]

Used to think you guys just feel it coming. Thin ice.

[Mike]

Yeah, I can.

[Ryan]

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[CJ]

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[Ken]

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[Ken]

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[Ben]

Oh, come on. You gotta be kidding me. I'm all left out today, dude.

[Ken]

Brother.

[Ben]

Someone go give me some camo.

[Mike]

I was gonna wear that shirt, and then I was like, I'll dress up and wear it.

[Ken]

I was about to do the same.

[Ryan]

Yeah, this is pretty crazy.

[Mike]

If it's not any news to anyone that's listening, we love camo.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. Very nice.

[Ryan]

Oh, Mike, you look nice. Sweater.

[Mike]

Yeah, this is my thing.

[Ryan]

Straight out of Thanksgiving.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, I brought a second outfit, but I was like, I kind of want to, like, wear the nice outfit again. So here I am wearing the same clothes two days in a row just to look nice. Kind of an oxymoron.

[Ben]

You look nice.

[Mike]

Is it? Yeah, it's just like you. You're. Oh, you. You put your nice clothes on again. But they're dirty.

[CJ]

Are they actually dirty, though?

[Ken]

I don't know.

[CJ]

I mean, if you're just wearing them inside all day, I'd say they're not.

[Mike]

That's what I. That's kind of my thought, too.

[Ben]

Little pumpkin pie on them.

[Mike]

If I, like, sit in my office all day, my clothes, to me, are not dirty.

[CJ]

The T shirt maybe, but underwear, especially, like, pants. Like, pants are good.

[Mike]

Pants and a hoodie.

[CJ]

At least three days. At least. I guess it depends what you're doing.

[Ken]

I think you still gotta wash it every single day.

[Mike]

And that's fair.

[Ken]

You wear it straight in the washer.

[CJ]

Really?

[Mike]

And that's why Ken's hoodies. Remember, like his Milwaukee Duck camo hoodie?

[Ryan]

Oh, it's getting some washes.

[Mike]

You fire this thing in the wash and you're like, all of them. Every time?

[Ken]

Yeah, Every time you work, like, anytime you take it off, throw in the hamper, and then straight in the washer.

[Ben]

Not.

[Ken]

Not gonna.

[Ryan]

You know. But that's what big laundry has taught Ken.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[Mike]

True.

[Ryan]

You know Kansas Laundry systems.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. But it's like, wear out your washer and dryer.

[Ken]

I want to clean, Tony. When I put it on, I don't want a slightly marginally dirty one.

[Ben]

That's what he learned at the Hawaii Maytag.

[Ryan]

Yeah. When Ken went on that conference.

[Ben]

Yeah, that conference. Thank you. Always, always wash your clothes. Isn't this. Aren't we selling the appliances? Yes, but you need to wash and.

[Ryan]

Make sure whenever you have the chance to talk about it, make sure people know they need to wash after every wear.

[Mike]

I guess it would keep them buying more washers and dryers.

[Ken]

I just think it's gross.

[CJ]

It's like, I think your. Your T shirt and your underwear and your socks are for sure.

[Ben]

Well, that's the nice thing about your underwear is, like, they don't really get dirty because there's nothing that touches them on the outside.

[CJ]

So you're disagreeing that you think that.

[Ken]

You'Re going to rock two days in a row?

[Ben]

Yeah. No. Three, four. I mean, they're not getting dirty one way.

[Ryan]

Flip it one way, and then inside out and then flip it again. You get four good wears out of it.

[Mike]

You can do the same with condoms.

[Ben]

No, I'm just kidding. Siege. You're right. That. That is the way to do it, I would say.

[Mike]

What did you just Say, forget about it. Do you guys wash your clothes before? Like, if you buy a new sweatshirt, do you wash it, then wear it?

[Ryan]

No, I do because I'm a weird size, but.

[Ben]

Sorry.

[Ken]

I love. I love straight out of the bag.

[Mike]

Same.

[CJ]

I normally don't, but Alex normally does because she thinks that there's germs on them from when they were made.

[Mike]

That's what. That's what Sydney says too. Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Maybe it's just a girl thing. I love the, like. Yeah, that. Like, fresh department store. Fresh merch. More the smell, but love it. Smells good. Smells new.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

If you buy from cboy cv.com it might smell like burnt rubber quad a little bit, but that's because Ken's just running laps in the warehouse.

[Ken]

You're gonna get that sometimes. We did it in the back area where there's all the clothing still, like, boxed up.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but you still did like seven laps back and forth.

[Ben]

You were burning rubber.

[Ryan]

Have you watched a new vid?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You have?

[Ryan]

You haven't, have you?

[Ken]

I was just doing quad guy stuff.

[Ben]

Oh, wow.

[Ryan]

I know that you haven't watched the new vid because you haven't said something about it.

[Ben]

Oh, no. What? What'd we do to me?

[Ryan]

Well, Ryan, we just didn't know that you're a. You're a full blown rock star now.

[Mike]

Rocks are the confusion.

[Ryan]

Yeah, like, we didn't know that you started a singing career.

[Ben]

Singing. Oh, no.

[Ryan]

Like this. It was news to us too.

[Ben]

I actually have no idea what like.

[Ryan]

Did you guys know Ryan started a singing career?

[Ben]

I do kind of look like a little K pop star.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Have you been getting these comments in your DMs or on your picks or anything?

[CJ]

Like, hey, could I get some singing lessons?

[Ken]

Or just, just, just give her a little refresh, see if anything pops up. Refresh?

[CJ]

Like, do you have any new covers coming out?

[Mike]

Christmas album. For sure.

[CJ]

Ryan's doing a Christmas album.

[Ryan]

I love that.

[Ben]

Man, I feel so lame for not watching the video. Came out at 7 o'.

[Ryan]

Clock.

[Ben]

I was. I was with family.

[Mike]

For the record, I haven't watched it yet either, which I feel bad about.

[Ben]

I have. I have.

[Ken]

Nothing late. Just went straight to bed.

[Mike]

What were you doing, Ken?

[Ken]

Thanksgiving.

[Ryan]

Oh, family Thanksgiving.

[Mike]

You're at Swannies or something?

[Ryan]

Or sw. No.

[CJ]

Yeah. That is Thanksgiving.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan]

His family.

[CJ]

I don't know what they were doing, but he was at Sauce.

[Mike]

Gave me balls.

[Ryan]

How was everyone's Thanksgiving with their fams?

[Mike]

I did a little double time. So two times the food.

[Ryan]

What do you Mean like you went to yours and then you went to sids. Yeah, I suppose you got to do that when you're married.

[Mike]

Yeah. But they're like, oh, it's so awesome. You get to eat all this good food twice. Which of course is. But also it's kind of of a.

[Ben]

Burden because you don't eat. You only eat once a day.

[Mike]

Yeah. So like that's a lot of food for me. I had to ration heavily.

[Ben]

How about you guys? What? Your families are the interesting ones. Our. Ours is like. Yeah, it was good. You know, nice cordial conversation.

[CJ]

Everybody was really too crazy with ours this year. I felt like it was pretty, pretty tame. I felt like it was. Well, it's different activity than normal.

[Ryan]

There's like four kids. Like my one sibling has three kids and the other one has won, but she's pregnant. So like once you guys have little gremlins running around, like the whole dynamic changes. Like it's like everything kind of just becomes about them and less about you. So annoying. So annoying. No, no, no, no. Yeah, like people's like attentions or priorities are like else elsewhere.

[Ben]

No kidding. Yeah.

[Ryan]

So we're not just sitting around just like shooting the. Or like telling stories. Older stories or. Yeah, like, which is pretty much what it used to be like. Like at the entire Thanksgiving table we'd be telling just like funny stories that should not be told at a Thanksgiving family dinner.

[CJ]

I got scolded because I said smoking was cool. That's when I knew I had to watch.

[Ryan]

Times have changed. Yeah.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Me, me and C.J. were going on this whole thing about how like smoking cigarettes is cool, vaping's lame. And cuz my brother's father in law still rips darts and me and CJ were giving him his flowers.

[Ben]

Yeah, like that's cool.

[CJ]

At least he stands for something, you know? Like I feel like vaping. Like it's just too practical and like everyone does it, you know, it's too easy. It's too easy.

[Ken]

Like if you smoke, cigarettes are slightly inconvenient.

[CJ]

They're more than like, you got to step outside, you're in the cold. Like you're actually about something.

[Ken]

No, you don't smoke cigarettes. You can do cigs inside.

[CJ]

Well, generally you can't.

[Mike]

I am picturing so you're like, you're, you're downtown, you're on the dance floor, there's people are passing around a vape that's been in 20 miles. But if you're like, hey, you want to go smoke a dart? It's just you and whoever.

[CJ]

Step outside. Whoever you smell like shit after.

[Ben]

Yeah, your mouth tastes like crap.

[CJ]

Like everyone knows they're bad for you. Like, there's no. There's no debate.

[Mike]

Smells like after.

[CJ]

Like no one really does them anymore. Yeah. It's just like, at least you stand for something.

[Ryan]

Yeah. It actually got sparked because they were asking about you if you would actually quit. Did you quit vaping?

[Ken]

I have, actually.

[CJ]

So you have. Yeah. I couldn't give him a straight answer.

[Ken]

I got a. I got a notification from my Apple watch today. It says my heart. My resting heart rate's been lower for the last week.

[Mike]

Wow.

[CJ]

I believe that.

[Mike]

I mean, I do, too.

[Ryan]

It's good. You're trending in the right direction.

[CJ]

What's your resting heart rate?

[Ken]

52, bro.

[CJ]

Ken is so healthy. I'm sure it is.

[Mike]

They're like.

[Ken]

And it was like. It was like 63 last week.

[Mike]

Nice.

[Ben]

Wow. 10, 11 or 10 in a week.

[CJ]

Ryan, what's your resting heart rate? I bet yours is high. Yours is probably 63 on a good day. That's what mine is.

[Mike]

I always just picture getting mine so low that I can, like, you know, go in, like, standby mode or something.

[CJ]

Mike's just. When. When Mike's sleeping, like, he is literally like 20. Like, he's like when you put your computer into fucking power save mode.

[Ryan]

Well, Mike doesn't exert a lot of energy because he's so fucking slow. He just operates at a slower rate.

[Ben]

Mine says daytime, lowest average. Is that. Is that the right thing?

[Ryan]

Sure.

[CJ]

Heart rate 70.

[Ben]

Yeah, classic.

[Mike]

Classic. I don't think that's bad, though.

[Ben]

That's what. That's what I'm at right now.

[Mike]

Oh, currently? Yeah.

[Ben]

You've been running this high stress environment anyways.

[CJ]

Ken's super healthy athlete, man, and only.

[Mike]

Getting more healthy by the day.

[Ken]

We're trying.

[Mike]

Look at that. He's got a body armor flash iv.

[CJ]

You're so healthy, maybe you don't even need to quit vaping.

[Ben]

Hey, get back on.

[Ken]

I might just do Zins.

[CJ]

Why start that if you haven't already?

[Ben]

That's like, maybe.

[Mike]

It.

[Ken]

It's probably. I've kind of replaced vaping with online gambling, and it. It's gotten a little destructive.

[CJ]

You've got to be so down, Ken. You've got to be so down.

[Ken]

Yeah, like 2000 this week.

[Ben]

Oh, this week?

[CJ]

This week, 2000. What were you doing last week?

[Ken]

Last weekend it was flat.

[CJ]

That's pretty good.

[Ben]

Well, next week you could be up.

[Ryan]

I will not download or, like, make an account for the online gambling, because I know it's slippery slope, but in other points of my life, like at deer camp, I was just rolling dice, just trying to get that thrill. Lost a ton of money to my brother. I might have told that story. Well, then when he's coming back up for Thanksgiving, I'm telling him, bring your money. I'm winning. Bring my money. I'm winning that shit back. Right. So we're at dinner last night or after dinner, and I'm like, all right, let's start rolling.

[Mike]

He didn't bring it.

[Ryan]

He did bring it. And we coerced my mom to also hop in and put some skin in the game. And my mom ended up, like, taking all my money.

[Ben]

No.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

How much money?

[Ryan]

I think she won, like, 200 bucks off me. But I brought. Only I brought 20s this time, like, because me and my brother were playing with hundreds.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan]

And I just. I lost a bunch of money, so I just brought twenties. Get a little bit more game out of it. And you gotta lose a lot of times to lose $200. Like, I don't know if I want any. And she was just, like, cleaning up, so. Well, yeah, no, I got my mom addicted to gambling, so, you know, that's not good.

[Ken]

But spreading the good word.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know, it's a real problem if next family event, she's like, let's run.

[Ben]

Yeah, come on, man.

[Ryan]

I mean, it ended with her just walking away with a, you know, a bunch of money. And she was like, are you happy? I see why this is kind of fun.

[CJ]

Yeah, this is great.

[Ryan]

And I go to Vegas. Mom, should we go. Yeah. Should we go to manoomin? Like the local. Like, that is not reservation casino.

[Ben]

Your family was running around, all drinking vitamin water and. But run in the casino like everybody else in there, smoking darts and having vodka Red Bulls.

[CJ]

It'd be the one time they'd be wearing their Covid masks so they're not inhaled. The.

[Ben]

All the fumes, the.

[CJ]

The secondhand smoke.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I don't know if anyone in my family owns a Covid mask, but they'd bring them out.

[CJ]

Then respirators.

[Ben]

They're wearing full blown respirators, like, for.

[CJ]

Painting, which, honestly, that's the other thing, man. Smoking, like, it's impractical for everyone around you even. But anyways, you got to stand on it. Like everyone's hating on you. Like this guy. Dude, it smells like in here, like, all this. But anyways, speaking of gambling, we got Vegas coming up, so you gotta Save your money, Ben.

[Ryan]

I know.

[Ken]

I heard a rumor you might be dipping out.

[Ryan]

It's to be decided.

[Ben]

What?

[Ryan]

It's in the air.

[Ben]

Come on.

[CJ]

You got rich coming. Probably. Gavin.

[Ken]

I got a really cool dinner reservation for the first night.

[CJ]

Do you need to hear any more?

[Ben]

Yeah, maybe if you're lucky, we'll go to one of those places that have doors without door handles.

[Ryan]

We run that house party back.

[Ben]

Run that house party back.

[Mike]

You can't run it back if you're never there.

[Ryan]

Yeah, if I miss this one, it's gonna be actually crazy. I'm gonna be three behind on you guys. I want to go on like a golf trip. Yeah, I think we gotta run a golf trip.

[Ken]

We can go to the Wynn golf course.

[Ryan]

Would you actually do that, Ken?

[CJ]

Of course he would. Are you kidding me?

[Ken]

When you golf.

[Ryan]

But keep this in mind.

[Ken]

When you golf the win, they have like a caddy with you.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan]

Cuz a caddy's going to make the world of difference for you.

[Ken]

I would make a fool of myself in front of this caddy. I don't think I could do it there.

[Mike]

Not to have a caddy, cuz.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I wouldn't want that.

[Ken]

It's also like 800 bucks for.

[Ben]

Oh my God.

[Ryan]

That's. That's why I ask. Would you actually go there? Cuz it's a lot of money. Like if you're a big golfer, that's a crazy amount to pay to go play around a golf. But if you love golf. Makes a little bit more sense than someone like you who doesn't like golf. Spending that much money.

[Ken]

Once I get a few more rounds under my belt, I think it'd be kind of fun.

[Ryan]

And maybe a year I could be.

[Mike]

So funny that you couldn't really put a price on it.

[CJ]

I think ken would go 100. If you just look at all the golf outings that he's gone on, it's always for special occasions. That's a special occasion. He doesn't really care to go for the love of the game. But if there's a good group of people going and they're. Yeah, they're drinking. Ken is out there and he's in.

[Ryan]

A great mood there for the lore.

[CJ]

But if you're just going on a Tuesday night after work, he's like this. He plays four holes and he's especially like a scramble.

[Ken]

You're just playing best ball. It's way more fun doing it that way.

[CJ]

I think we gotta go. Ben, I don't think you can bail on this. 1.

[Ryan]

I mean, I agree, but you might have to. Yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

Damn. We got a package in the mail this week. I love getting packages and then bringing them on the podcast from our boy Rick Duff.

[Ryan]

Oh, let's go.

[Ben]

Sent us assigned vinyl mcds.

[Mike]

Who even knew he was pressing vinyls? I got to get one of those.

[CJ]

Yes, I think you're the only one.

[Ryan]

There you go.

[Ben]

Well, I know. That's what I was thinking.

[Mike]

We were gonna maybe hang it up.

[Ben]

Yeah, we probably put this in the pod.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

But maybe he'll send Mike another one so he can spin the vinyl.

[Mike]

I guess I could take the actual vinyl out. We could hang the artwork.

[Ben]

Oh, that's true. You could actually play it.

[Mike]

And it obviously has Ford Ranger on it.

[Ben]

Yeah, it does.

[Ryan]

Yeah. So this summer, our boy Rick Duff came up. Rick had made a song called Ford Ranger, and it's about our Ford Ranger. My Ford Ranger wants to be like.

[Ken]

Well, yeah, we did.

[Mike]

Found it here.

[Ryan]

TV engine. Close. Six wheels in a little hat to wear. I'm messing the lyrics up.

[Ken]

But track three on the side, a very good.

[CJ]

Yeah, he also sang it on, like, Canada's Got Talent.

[Ryan]

I think we had played it on the podcast.

[Ben]

Yeah, I had found it and popped.

[Ryan]

It up on the podcast probably a year and a half ago at this point. Well, Rick saw that we were giving it love, and we were stoked about it. So he hit us up and was like, yo, can I come out and film the music video with your guys's Ford Ranger and you, obviously. So we did that this summer. It went live this fall, and now Rick Duff's got a new album. So Rick's. Rick's our boy. Shout out to Rick.

[Mike]

Shout out to Rick. That was a fun day filming the music video.

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Damn, we heard you the first time.

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I'm like, no, sometimes this guy glitching right now.

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[CJ]

Did you hear that? I didn't know. Years of experience does to you.

[Mike]

That was incredible.

[Ryan]

That was amazing to watch.

[Ken]

Is a expert dude.

[CJ]

He's just flexing on us right now. It's kind of crazy how like vinyls are coming back.

[Mike]

It really is because they're. They will never be practical, I'll tell you that much.

[CJ]

Yeah, there's no way. So does it sound as good or off of this or is like the sound design not.

[Mike]

I'd imagine it's better.

[Ken]

Supposedly it's better.

[Mike]

Yeah, supposedly there's no.

[Ken]

There's no compression or anything cuz it's.

[Mike]

I will say that it sounds good.

[CJ]

It's amazing, man. It's weird that this came out before the other thing. Like, it just seems crazy that you just scrub it and it makes the noise.

[Ryan]

Makes no sense. Yeah. I don't get it.

[CJ]

Don't touch it.

[Mike]

Well, don't rub around on it.

[CJ]

Oh, okay. Sorry. I wasn't sure. It didn't look like it was, like, a CD where it could get scratched.

[Mike]

Like, all those. All those little grooves on the thing are, like, what actually makes the noise different. Yeah. So when the needle scratches over the groove.

[CJ]

Why do you like records so much, Mike?

[Mike]

Yeah, I think they do sound good. I think it is fun, like, putting an album on and, like, listening to.

[Ryan]

It all the way through.

[CJ]

Yeah. Like, you're not changing songs when you go through the work of putting that thing right. Like, you're just running the whole album.

[Mike]

It stemmed from over listening to podcasts. I just got to the point where I, like, would go to Spotify and be like, I don't even know what to play.

[Ryan]

So.

[Mike]

So then I was playing, like, top hits, and I just wasn't vibing with it.

[Ben]

So you have one of those in your car?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Can you imagine?

[Ben]

I think my dad told a story back in the day. He had some cool car, and he was reaching over to change the CD or something, like. Cause he had, like, the. You know, like, when you could put, like, six CDs in it or something like that. I think he crashed a car on the downer road, like, missed the ditch or something like that, and rolled.

[Mike]

I do believe that. Yeah. Most of those six CD changers, you're actually not supposed to operate while driving because you. You have six. You should be good.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he didn't have that, and he had just, like. Maybe he just had the binder.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Ben]

I. I'll have to ask him on that. We got to get him on here one day. He's got to tell stories. He's got a bunch of different stories.

[Ryan]

Did he roll one of the. The Cobra replica cars?

[Ben]

Yeah, he used to work for, like, they would build replica Cobras, and he says that they were the best because they were made in Fargo. Then they got sold out to a big company. Not as good anymore, but. But yeah, he was driving down the downer road, and I can't remember if it was during a photo shoot or after a photo shoot, but he basically, like, came up on a corner. It was going way too fast, and they just are light with no power, no traction. Control. Nothing like that. It just spun. Yeah. And it spun around and then it rolled down.

[CJ]

That's got to be not the ideal car to crash or roll.

[Ben]

There's literally no roof.

[CJ]

No roof.

[Ken]

There's like a little, little roll bar right behind you. And that's it.

[CJ]

So the, the little roll bar did its job.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Mike]

Wow. Dude.

[CJ]

So what is boss have to say that I would. Oh my gosh.

[Ben]

I think he said cuz he was fairly. He'd been working for the company like since it started. So I think, you know, you get like one gimme. Big mistake. Yeah. You know, like if you work here, you get like 10.

[Ryan]

Whoa. Once a week. I don't know if we want them to know that though.

[CJ]

I think they already do know that.

[Ben]

Yeah, they see, they've seen the repercussions of what happens. I mean, you know, you had your gimme and you get a few a week. Yeah, you get a few a week. So I think, I think he was okay. But yeah, the boss ended up selling the company later and then it.

[Ryan]

Oh, not because of that.

[Ben]

No, not because of that. But like after that it kind of went downhill on me. I mean not because of the crash.

[CJ]

And that's when Randy got out of the car business.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And that's when he started framing.

[CJ]

In other big news, we got our, our new gear brand dropping this week, which we've been working on for what? Yeah, we've been working on for a long time.

[Ryan]

The longest we've ever worked on something without it being.

[CJ]

And it's very, very nice stuff. I mean I was wearing one of our jackets in the Mega quad video and dude, I mean I love that. That's my favorite. Jack and I normally don't wear like a coat unless we're really in treacherous weather, which then I would wear like a mono suit. Oh, I love that jacket. It's lightweight, warm, comfortable. Looks good. But yeah, we got a bunch of good stuff.

[Mike]

Three jackets.

[CJ]

Yeah, we got. How many jackets do we got? We got three jackets, sick jackets and we got three mono suits and then we got some gloves, obviously. Hats.

[Mike]

Yeah. This is just kind of the beginning. Like we're, we're excited to launch this brand and we're coming into winter. We always wear mono suits. So why not release some life wide open gear monosuits to you guys?

[CJ]

Yeah, and they're nice quality. I mean they're debatably better than. Than other brands, I would say.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I'm very proud of them too. They look cool. And the durable, we wouldn't Obviously want to promote them or have you guys buy them if they weren't. And they've been tested by the entire crew and we love them and they're a very affordable price point, which is what we.

[Ben]

Yeah, we tried to find like a good medium ground quality. Good but not too expensive.

[Ryan]

But yeah, we're fired up. We've been working on this gear brand for the last two years like CJ said, and I think we're gonna just be continuing to add products to it. It's called Life Wide Open Gear and it's fitting the Life Wide Open brand and we're just continuing to add products to it. So excited to see what it turns into over the next couple of years, you know, as we hopefully get our foundation and people start getting the product and hopefully loving it. But yeah, we're fired up on it. So drops this Thursday at 7 o'.

[Ben]

Clock, hoping to wear it snowmobile and soon.

[Mike]

Let's go, dude.

[Ben]

I mean it's going to be awesome.

[CJ]

Which one's your guys's favorite mono suit?

[Ryan]

I like the duck camo. Red Classic.

[Mike]

Love the red.

[Ken]

Definitely the red.

[Ben]

Yeah, I was probably going to say the red too.

[CJ]

I think I like the black. Black is clean, man. It's got that digital camo underneath. Looks cool.

[Ryan]

Yeah, all of it feels like Seaboys branded, which is what we wanted. You know, obviously it's our brand so we want it to be feel like us and it does.

[Mike]

We're not trying to like make like racing gear and crazy stuff like this is coming from us and what we do. And like I said, we wear mono suits and, and the, the jackets that we wear when we film our videos. These are, we want to reproduce for you guys.

[CJ]

Like it doesn't even have to be riding gear with the mono suits. Like I would wear that ice fishing. I could really see the duck camo. Like the good old boys loving that and buying it. Even if they rarely go riding. Like just having that as like their ice fishing rig. It's just sweet, man. I'm excited to see see some people wearing it.

[Ryan]

We also realize that most people watching our videos, they're normal people, right? They're not like the extremist by any means of like all I do is ride mountains or all I do is ride trail. So I need it to be like the crazy warmth. Most people are just like, yeah, you know, I go out and ride on the weekends and whether I'm riding four wheeler when there's this much snow or snow in the ditches with my boys, like that's. That's the majority of the people that watch our videos. And because that's who we are, like that's what we do. We're not like extremists by any means. So we wanted to make gear that represents those people 100 and that's exactly what we're doing. So we're getting our, our toes wet or feet wet with the snow gear. And then this spring we'll have moto gear as well. And that's gonna follow the same mentality of like, you're not like the crazy extremist racers. You're the guys riding dirt bikes on the weekend or hopping on your bike after work and just ripping around.

[Mike]

So keep an eye out. This Thursday?

[CJ]

Yep.

[Ben]

Yeah, this Thursday. Seaboy tv.com or lifewood open gear.com are we launching on its own website. It's just on Seaboise.

[Ken]

Just going to start on Seaboz for now. Love it.

[Ryan]

Speaking of musicians, I saw something the other day that sparked a memory that I haven't thought about in a long time. Do you guys remember when we met Sean Kingston?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

So weird. But did you guys see he's in jail now?

[CJ]

No. Tax evasion.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Wire fraud. Yeah. I think he was just kind of using his clout to benefit him of like getting people's trust and then just not delivering on like the money end of.

[CJ]

A lot of rappers do that a lot.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

They have the money sent beforehand. They don't do that. They don't follow back up.

[Ben]

They don't do the thing.

[Ryan]

He seems a little act. Okay, so he got three and a half years in federal prison. Holy shit. Oh, and his mother went to jail as well. Defrauding luxury vendors of over $1,000,000 in Property Inc. Including bulletproof Escalade high end watches and a large tv.

[CJ]

Just one tv.

[Ben]

One damn tv.

[CJ]

What's Sean Kingston thinking he needs a bulletproof Escalade for?

[Mike]

I mean I could see a use for it in Miami.

[CJ]

Is he really that popping anymore? I guess he did. He did have some, some big hits.

[Ken]

Like he seemed washed up. Like, what was that?

[Ben]

He was washed up when I met him.

[Ryan]

The story behind him is, is he came to a music festival. One of our boys was putting the music festival on and we were like kind of like acting as like promoters for this music festival. It was crazy. Jake got up on stage and threw $10,000 out in fake badge. One of the wildest things I think, like looking back at that was crazy that he did that. But yeah, we got to meet Sean Kingston, who was, like, the headliner for this thing, but, like, he had, like, three layers of security that we had to get through just to meet him in, like, this room.

[Ben]

In a locker room.

[Ryan]

In a locker room of him.

[CJ]

He, like.

[Ryan]

We finally get through all of his security, and he just, like, daps us up.

[CJ]

So take one picture and that was it.

[Ben]

Yeah, the worst picture ever, too. It's so grainy. Like, literally off a big reno took it on his phone, and they were just. It was just a garbage picture. It's funny because I had, like, been in that locker room playing C squad basketball, you know, a lot of good memories. It was pretty sweet, you know, Just knew I was never going to touch the court.

[CJ]

The coach come in, Ryan. We're going to have you sitting on the bench here for the second half.

[Ben]

I actually had a no dribble rule.

[Mike]

That's where I sat on the first half.

[Ben]

I had a no dribble rule in C squad basketball. When I caught the ball, I was allowed to pass it or to shoot it.

[CJ]

They didn't even give you the option to dribble?

[Ben]

No, I had a no dribble rule.

[CJ]

Are you the only one with that?

[Ben]

No, I think there was maybe other kids, but it was. It was publicized.

[CJ]

Just nobody's dribbling.

[Ryan]

How bad were you at dribbling? Like, how do they just say, all.

[Ben]

Right, I wasn't that bad at dribbling? I just think that, like, I probably wanted to be better than I was, so I, like, would try to make a move, and that never really worked. And so he was like, just do the play. Just catch the ball or shoot it.

[Ryan]

So, yeah, you couldn't dribble the ball.

[Ben]

Yeah. It did get me in some pickles sometimes, because then they would, like, double team me, and I couldn't do anything. I would just stand there, throw it away. So, yeah, my JV C squad basketball stories wasn't exactly a highlight in my athletic career. Who would have thought?

[CJ]

So speaking about tax evasion, you guys see whistling? What do you think on that?

[Mike]

If you listen to the Doug Demero podcast, like, Doug's a huge fan of whistling. He kind of dives into exactly why it happened, why it should still be a law, why people are abusing it. I mean, like, the Montana.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Registration thing. He's like, people with supercars have just been, like, using it to register supercars and whatever in Montana, and they're making an example out of him, I'd assume.

[CJ]

Yeah. So basically, he got jammed up for tax evasion, but he actually paid his taxes. It was basically just on the car sales tax end of things. He had an LLC in Montana where you don't have to pay sales tax, and then had the car owned by that LLC so he could work around the sales tax. And I guess they went after him, which a lot of, you know, supercar owners do that. But I definitely could see like the gray area in where they're like, oh, we're going to try and make an example out of them. Because it is like a loophole. But it's a, it's currently a legal.

[Mike]

Loophole and it's, it's state by state. So that's what I found out too. Some states don't even.

[CJ]

They don't care. It's not worth it.

[Mike]

It sounds like Tennessee and probably other states have finally got enough cameras that are always scanning license plates that they can actually prove a vehicle has been in the state for 30 days.

[CJ]

Which normally I think either way, he's online, like, yeah.

[Ryan]

I think if you're going to be rich and play the system, you can't also be publicizing that you're playing the system. Like, everyone knows that's obviously, you see a Montana.

[CJ]

It's a known loophole.

[Ryan]

Yeah. The issue with it though is like, for Tennessee sake, I'm sure they had like a flood of people from, say, California coming in with money, moving in, moving in.

[CJ]

There was quite a few, like, supercars around there with Montana plates when Ryan and I were there.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, there was.

[Ryan]

And they're just like, all right, this is clearly becoming more and more of a thing because more and more people are learning about this said loophole. How do we go after one guy and make the biggest impact?

[Ben]

Because he's gonna.

[Ryan]

Wow. Did it work for him?

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Everybody, every headline is just like, Montana llc, whistling diesel tax evasion, two million dollar bond. Like all these things. And then everyone is probably just like.

[CJ]

Apparently there was like a typo in the two million dollar bond.

[Ben]

It wasn't actually 20 commas and 20,000.

[Ryan]

Or whatever, but far off, either way, I think it got what they wanted. The, the job done.

[Ben]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ryan]

And I'm sure most people that were either on the fence about doing it are probably not going to do it now. And I'm imagining a lot of people that did do it are probably like, let's maybe just register that car in Tennessee.

[Ben]

Yeah, like, I'm already spending 400 grand.

[Ryan]

What's going to jail.

[Ben]

And especially that they just came on his property, took him away, you know, like no letter that said, hey, you got to fix this. You know, they were definitely trying to make a statement. Tennessee actually has the second highest combined sales tax in the country.

[Mike]

Oh, wow.

[Ben]

At 9.61% is their average combined rate. The statewide is 7.

[CJ]

So that sucks, dude. I don't know why everyone likes Tennessee so much.

[Ben]

9.61% is heavy, and that's coming from a Mission resident.

[Ken]

Does Tennessee, we're seven and a quarter. So it's.

[Ben]

Tennessee does not have state individual income tax.

[Ken]

Okay. So that, that's where they're getting it, where it's like they're taxing. Your sales tax is heavy, but your income tax is nothing. So I mean, you got to play one.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. I, it is weird that they're really only going after like, what, 4,050 grand. That's a lot of money, but also like a lot of bigger, bigger fish.

[Ken]

But you take down one big person and you're going to get 50 other people that don't, you know, they don't have nearly the online presence, but they're going to pay the tax.

[Ben]

But they also pick the one guy who's never going to lay down and just take a fine.

[Ryan]

But that might also be, that's kind of what they wanted of okay, how do we go after somebody who's clearly going to make this public?

[CJ]

They don't lose, man. You like when it's you versus you versus the government or the government or the federal whatever, they always win. I, I, if I was him, I would honestly just pay the thing, move on, not do it again. That's my two cents because, like, it's just gonna be a pain. It's gonna be an uphill battle. And I don't think you're gonna win. I think you're gonna waste a lot of time and energy, just pay the thing, go back to making your videos, register your cars in, in Tennessee and just move on. That's my two cents. I don't know. What do you guys think fighting it?

[Ryan]

Dude, you.

[CJ]

I just don't think it's gonna, it's.

[Ryan]

So tough because it's kind of in a win win situation with it honestly, like on the side of like say he fights it. It's going to be so publicized and.

[CJ]

In the ultimately doesn't have too much to lose.

[Ryan]

Like he's probably that he's in like more publicity the better. And he's going to get a. Yeah.

[Ken]

I mean, content out of fighting it. But I'm assuming The government crossed their T's and dotted their eyes to make sure what they were doing was fully like their investigation. Everything was fully complete. Yeah, fully vetted before they even touched his property.

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Thanks. Harry's all right.

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[CJ]

Let him cook.

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Let him cook. Masters at work here.

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[CJ]

You've got it. Okay, yeah, to my point, I don't think he's going to win it. To your point, you're right. Realistically, it's not like he's going to prison for a few years or anything. If he. When he loses, he'll just pay the fine and he's basically just adding some more money on top. But he's going to make a big splash and everyone's gonna hear about it.

[Ryan]

And I'd imagine it's the original fee that he didn't pay, plus interest, plus.

[Ken]

A fine, plus court fees and all that stuff.

[Ryan]

No doubt it's still gonna be a ton of money lost and a bunch of a headache. But, like, I don't know, that's the crazy part about being a YouTubers. You can kind of turn lemons into lemonade.

[CJ]

Yeah, exactly. So promo.

[Ryan]

It's definitely doing what they wanted, though, of like, he's making it a big deal. Whereas if they were to go after a big dog, that is like, I don't want one the headache and I don't want the bad publicity. Pay it. Make it go away. Do whatever you have to do to not make this go, like, grand, where he's just like, I'm going to fight this. Make it as big as possible. Everyone in the world's going to know about this. And Tennessee's like, great. Hopefully people know that we don't mess around.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[CJ]

Yeah. Whatever happened with that whole Jet Ski case that he was fighting, like, there's really a conclusion.

[Ryan]

They dropped the charges. I don't know. Surprise.

[Ben]

There wasn't.

[Ryan]

Like, it's gonna be interesting, though. But I've always thought that from day one, the Montana LLC thing, you can't do that and be public about it. Like, it's just one thing. It's just, like, publicizing, like, tax evasion, essentially.

[Mike]

There's a.

[CJ]

There's a really rich guy around here that was doing that, and he got in trouble, too, and had to, like, switch it all back. And you just paid the, you know, whatever. Just.

[Mike]

I imagine most cases are like, all right, yep, I'll pay it.

[Ken]

And then they had to pay the sales tax plus interest for the time period that the vehicle was in Minnesota.

[Mike]

I mean, who knows? Maybe they'll just nix the whole thing altogether. That'll probably take a while. But, like, I don't know. If you live in California and you, like, imported a car from China and, like, it wouldn't pass emissions, even though it's, like, totally fine. It's just like some collector car, that would be a reason to register it in Montana just so you can drive the thing. You're not trying to.

[Ken]

No, that doesn't work that way. You wouldn't be able to get it.

[Ryan]

Past customs or whatever.

[Mike]

Let's say it was a car that was made in the US and it was a collector's car, but it wouldn't pass emissions in the state.

[Ben]

Like having a Skyline that wouldn't pass California emissions.

[Mike]

Correct. And then you'd register. You're not doing it to save money on taxes. You're doing it so you can drive the car.

[Ben]

Well, that's Jay Leno's law. But they shut that shit down. It got. Made it all the way to the end, and they shut it down at the end.

[Ryan]

What's that?

[Ben]

It was that collectors cars that were driven below a certain mileage and were of a certain rarity could be registered in California as, like, a collector car, and they didn't have to pass smog and have different things that California is super hard about. And it got all the way to whatever court. I'll. I'll look it up here. But, I mean, made it all the way to the end, and then they shut it down.

[CJ]

Jay Leno's law is kind of like your no dribble rule. Ryan's Law. That's probably what they talk about. And, like, for still years to come, the Ryan rule.

[Mike]

Half the squad over here. Ryan's Law.

[CJ]

No dribbling.

[Ryan]

No dribbling allowed.

[Ben]

Leno's law refers to a proposed bill. Exempt classic cars 35 years or older from smog checks, provided they have historical plates and are insured as a collector vehicle. Passed California Senate, but it was killed by state lawmakers. Same California.

[Ken]

Doing California anyway.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, though.

[CJ]

Yeah, no kidding. It'll be interesting if he. If he loses. If he'll stay in Tennessee. Like, I could see him being salty and just, like, moving to Montana just to, like. Like, that's what I would do about Sam. Like, just, like, just move to Montana and end up all right. Well, I guess now I can do it, but then it's a lot of work. You got to pick up shop. Like, a lot of work. Like, we realistically think how much work it'd be to pick up. Like, we just can't move. I mean, we could, but it would be such a pain.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ken]

He's got such a cool property out there. Like, what you're going to spend trying to find that Montana in a good location is absurd.

[Ben]

It's true. Yeah.

[CJ]

He probably could make quite a bit of money, though, if he bought that thing back in, like, 20. 20, 20, 21. I'm sure it's gone up quite a bit.

[Ryan]

Yeah. So many people are moving and so.

[CJ]

Many people are moving.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You got lucky in that. Now there's this huge wave of people.

[Ryan]

Sick, though.

[CJ]

I don't know if it is.

[Ryan]

I think it's got good weather, it's got good landscape. I like Tennessee. Like the Smoky Hills vibe.

[Mike]

I could agree with that.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

I think it's.

[Ryan]

I think it's a good place.

[CJ]

I don't quite understand the hype.

[Ben]

Have you explored more, like, other than just Nashville?

[CJ]

Me? No, I don't think so. I don't know. Have we gone there and drove around someplace for a video? So I always forget where we've gone. I feel like we've been there.

[Ben]

Bristol.

[CJ]

Bristol.

[Ryan]

We've been to the. The east side of Tennessee.

[Mike]

To the hill.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Yeah. I feel like we were driving around. They had, like, really narrow roads, if I remember.

[Ben]

They did have narrow roads. That's right.

[CJ]

I don't Know, I think Florida, if I was going to move anywhere, like, Florida got the ocean. Like, I see a draw there.

[Mike]

Number one benefit. Cletus lives there.

[Ryan]

We used to be, like, so hot on finding a place in Florida, and we just. It just kind of fizzled out of, like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, a lot would go into it. We'd have to essentially just build what we have here.

[Mike]

But there.

[Ryan]

And it's taken us eight years to build what we have here.

[Mike]

I think, realistically, we just need, like, a shop.

[CJ]

I just don't foresee us using it that much realistically nowadays. Like, there's only realist, like, three months out of the year that you'd probably want to use it, but you're not going to be there all three months.

[Ken]

And then we still got to pay to maintain it and, you know, keep up on everything, make it an Airbnb.

[CJ]

Once you have, like, a family, like, you're not going to be leaving two weeks at a time. So it's like, realistically just. I don't know. And, like, we got buddies down there now, like, thanks to Cletus. Like, realistically, if we need to, like, ship something, have it sit in there for a week, he would probably say yes, and then we can still go about whatever we're doing.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Makes it a lot easier.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

It's nice having friends and more places, too.

[Mike]

That's for sure.

[CJ]

We are getting to that time of the year, though, where, like, filming is getting harder with the snow and the weather, but I don't know. I feel like we're making it work, as always.

[Ben]

You guys just feel it coming. Thin ice.

[Mike]

Yeah, I can.

[Ryan]

I saw it iced over this morning, like, the smaller lakes, the ponds, and I was like, oh, I saw it, dude. My parents pond. I was leaving their house this morning, and I was. It was iced over the OG spot where we used to go, and I was just like, I want to go walk on it right now. I know. It's like. I know it's, like 2 inches thick. It's some real thin ice. And I was just like, I want to go walk on it and jump on it and see how much it flexes.

[Mike]

I did, too. We really lucked out this year with. I mean, we had nice weather legitimately up until, like, Monday of last week. So basically, beginning of December, we had nice weather. There's a couple cold days, and it was the best. We filmed and we filmed and we filmed, and whenever we had something to film, we go outside and we film it. You Know.

[Ben]

Yeah. Now, like, you couldn't.

[Mike]

And then. Now that snow rolled in and then the wind followed and it's just. It is what it is. But I did take it for granted.

[Ryan]

Being nice. Yeah, it's cool in winter now.

[Mike]

It was nice so long into the year and I'm just like, this is the best. We are just rolling. And that winter just hit me like a right hook to the face.

[Ryan]

Yeah. We filmed the video like a week and a half ago, snowmobiling on our moto track. It's coming out this Thursday. Like off road snowmobiling. And we were like, all right, we don't have any snow. And yeah, it's crazy how fast that changed. And now it's. We still barely have any snow. It snowed just like a little bit and then it just blew around.

[CJ]

And what's the verdict on those snowmobiles? Like, they honestly handled it pretty well. Besides the one that big wrench didn't put any coolant in because obviously.

[Ryan]

Yeah, no, I think they're good. Like they're 100 fine, dude.

[CJ]

I swear. Well, race sleds especially are just tough as nails, but turns out you don't need snow, honestly.

[Mike]

Yeah, they just had a couple extra, like, wheels on the skid, on the. The bogey wheels, and that was it. I'm sure the hx, the skid slides.

[CJ]

They weren't even that, dude. They weren't like, they still had life in them.

[Ryan]

Dude. I'm fired up for snowmobiling this winter, though.

[Ken]

Same.

[Ben]

Me too.

[Ryan]

I hope we get snow. But even if we don't get snow, we got to go find it.

[Ken]

Just go bang bang some ditches on lake.

[Ryan]

I'm actually fired up to bang ditches. Yeah.

[Ben]

It's been two.

[Ryan]

The most Minnesota thing ever. So fun.

[Ken]

It is.

[CJ]

It is fun. Just hopping on the sleds on like a Saturday and just cruising around, get going to like some burger spots, whatever.

[Mike]

I went once last year.

[Ken]

I think the only time I wrote a sled last year was at Snowden.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, And Snowden.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You're kind of a rider now though, Ken, after last video. So I'd imagine you're probably gonna ride one to work every day.

[Ken]

Probably not.

[Ryan]

Are you back into it now?

[Ken]

By. By into it.

[Mike]

Buy into it. Your new nickname is going to be Boondocking Ken.

[Ken]

Probably not.

[Ryan]

I think we gotta get Ken back on a quad, though.

[CJ]

He was back on a quad like his own.

[Ryan]

You know, we messed up by giving Ryan a quad because he hasn't rode it. Yeah.

[CJ]

You haven't even rode the thing.

[Ben]

We should have filmed any more quad videos.

[CJ]

A real quad rider would be out running laps whether we're filming or not.

[Ben]

Take it out to the track sometimes, but not to ride.

[Mike]

Look at.

[Ben]

Yeah, no, you just, like, take it out there. A little ripper device to go take it out there.

[Ken]

Go take some pictures and then come back.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ryan]

No, I think we need to get Ken back on a quad. Like, did you see these picks?

[Mike]

Renegade. Eight hundred or a thousand.

[Ken]

Now they make that 800 is the sweet spot.

[Mike]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ken]

Perfect power to weight.

[Mike]

Yeah. Look at literally any kid with a quad ever.

[Ben]

Dude, Ken and I were out, like, every weekend. I would have a whole Facebook post about, like, Ken and I ripping.

[Mike]

I know.

[Ryan]

That's how we became friends.

[Ken]

Just, like, rip laps around the field.

[CJ]

You're ripping jet skis. It was four wheels and then snowmobiles.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Ken needs to get back on riders on the jet ski. To the most classic thing ever. Ken and Ryan pull up on jet skis. We had just met. CJ goes, hey, Ryan, can I ride your jet ski? Of course. Yeah, hop on it, bro. Take it. Ken sitting there. Hey, Ken.

[CJ]

Grant.

[Ryan]

Grant, can I ride your jet ski? Oh, I don't think so.

[CJ]

I think you're a little young. That's what he said. He said he thinks, and that sets a precedent.

[Ken]

You were like. You were like, 10 at that point.

[Ryan]

No, I was not. I was probably 15 years old.

[Ken]

You were way.

[Mike]

I was probably.

[Ryan]

Then you look 10 years old.

[CJ]

I would have been probably. Yeah. No, you'd have been.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Not that you'd have been, like, 16. I was.

[CJ]

You'd have been plenty old.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Old enough to ride a jet ski, kid.

[Ken]

A lot longer go than that.

[CJ]

It was funny if you just hopped on it and just ran into the dock or something. I knew it.

[Mike]

That still reminds me. I've told this before, but when I thought you and Ken were, like, the dynamic when I first met you guys and I was snowmobiling with you, and then we, like, ran out of gas, and you're like, ken, I'll just take your sled. And I was like, dang, he just can hop on Grant's at the time, his brand new articat, like M8, and just like, take it. And then you were kind of hesitant to let him take it. I'm like, oh, they're probably really close.

[Ryan]

Yeah, we've always been buddies, kid.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Against Ken's will.

[Ken]

Did you. What did you do that day? Like, you.

[Ryan]

I Don't know. Broke it.

[Ben]

What was the day that we met? Was it on the jet skis? No.

[Ryan]

Yeah, dude.

[Ben]

First time we ever met.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Ben]

Pulled up to your guys's dock. I remember it.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Ben]

Ken and I were just on the prowl looking for friends, because we were.

[Ken]

I think we met up with Matt and then you guys were there.

[Ryan]

It was so crazy, too, because I used to think that you were just a legend, Ryan.

[Ben]

Really?

[CJ]

He used to.

[Ben]

Well, let's go back to my legendary days. Why was I a legend?

[Ryan]

I didn't know about this old no dribble.

[Mike]

That's also how Jake explained you too. Because I met Jake first, and he's like, he. You came by in the TC past Zorbas, and he's like, oh, that's Ryan Iworks. You gotta meet him. His dad does construction, and he has so many sick toys.

[Ryan]

Like two snowmobiles at the time.

[Ben]

Yeah. 600 XRS and a snowmobile. It was pretty lit.

[Ryan]

Yeah. And then Ken pulled up in his Subaru Impreza, and we were like, this thing's a rally car. We kind of did from day one. Just bullied Ken into drifting against his will.

[Ken]

It was fun. And then kind of got boring.

[Mike]

You said drift in the Holly parking lot.

[Ben]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah, dude.

[Ryan]

It's crazy to think, though, Ken got his name because we were like, dude, you gotta drift this Subaru Impreza. And he mobbed it around three corners. And we were like, he's the greatest drifter of all time. He's just like, Ken Block. Let's start calling him Ken.

[Mike]

I don't.

[Ken]

In retrospect, that was like, how crazy. Some of the lamest drifts. But in. In the moment, it was pretty cool.

[Ryan]

Like, you probably went around three corners, and we were like, this dude is just like Ken Block.

[Ken]

I think it was around Dave's shot. Yeah. It wasn't even around corn. It was just around, like, Dave's buildings with all that, like, expensive stuff we could have hit, but the sharp stuff to hit.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Never did think about how different it would be if you were Grant.

[Ken]

Be weird.

[Ben]

Yeah. What do you life would be like?

[Ken]

It'd be so weird.

[Ryan]

Really?

[Mike]

I don't think it'd be that different. I'd be. I'm super bummed that we wouldn't have the whole no can do branding. I love. No, Grant, I love. Yeah. I wouldn't work.

[Ken]

Doesn't work as good. Doesn't work at all, actually.

[Mike]

But I think you'd still be just as big of a savage.

[Ken]

I'd Hope.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but it's hard to say. Yeah. Do you feel like this is kind of like an alter ego of yours that has just became your new personality?

[Ken]

No, it's just nice being able to like, keep certain parts of the life separate so, like, you can. The life, you know? You know, where I meet people, like, where it's based on how they. How they address me.

[Ryan]

Do people call you Grant, though?

[Ken]

Yeah, like, anyone from the bank calls me Grant.

[Ryan]

Okay. Outside of like a legal setting.

[Ken]

Anyone in a legal setting calls me by my. My government name.

[CJ]

CJ.

[Ken]

Anyone? Anyone else calls me by the. The YouTube name?

[Ryan]

Do you still introduce yourself as CJ?

[Ken]

No. That was just like total, total blackout.

[Ben]

One time.

[Ken]

It was one time. Never live it down.

[CJ]

What's crazy, dude? I was sitting right next to you. I didn't know what to say. Who am I now? Like, if you're cj, who am I? I guess I'm Grant.

[Ben]

Gosh, I have it again.

[CJ]

Where.

[Ken]

Where were we?

[Mike]

She's just. Heydays.

[Ryan]

How hard do you have to block to introduce Arctic Cat.

[CJ]

Big guy at Articad? And they're like, hey, I've heard about you guys, you know, introducing Ken. Cj.

[Ken]

I don't know, I must. I think I was looking at you, cj and I said, cj.

[CJ]

And then I'm like, okay, Ken.

[Mike]

I keep forgetting to run that back. Cuz think of all the people we meet as a group. So easy for the last eight years or whatever. Now I just want to remember to do that just right before you're about to shake their hand. Are you guys excited for Steve will do it to be back on YouTube?

[CJ]

Yeah, I will be. Interesting to see his return. You know, I don't know. Is he actually going to post when he says he's going to post?

[Mike]

I was wondering the same thing.

[CJ]

It seems like he's just got so much money that I feel like just running a regular YouTube schedule is going to be way too much of an inconvenience for him. Like after he posts a video, why is he going to, like, immediately start working on another one?

[Ryan]

Like, it's.

[CJ]

It's a lot of work and I feel like he's just going to be like, yeah, I'll do it. And then I think it's going to be sporadic. I don't think think it's gonna be so he's. He's like his last.

[Mike]

So Steve will do it.

[CJ]

I like him, but I just don't think it's gonna be like his last.

[Mike]

He got banned from YouTube. And now he is. He's back on. He got the go ahead from YouTube.

[CJ]

Yeah. He had to start a new channel though. So he doesn't have his old channel back.

[Mike]

Anybody starts coming back with a Christmas Eve special and a Christmas special, whatever that means. And then he said he's gonna be posting every week after that. And being that we post every week. Yeah, we know what goes in.

[CJ]

I don't think he's gonna do that. I don't think he's gonna post every week. He's got way too much money to.

[Ken]

Be going to do it for six weeks and then it'll get a lot more infrequent.

[Ben]

Unfortunate to start. Not that needs of money, but start in January.

[Ryan]

He made great videos because of like what he was doing. But I think like the landscape has changed. Like.

[Ben]

I agree.

[Ryan]

When you would see him give somebody like $100,000, it was crazy. And now, I mean, he's going to have to be giving people like $1 million and how sustainable is that? And also like his editor was so good.

[Ben]

So good.

[CJ]

He still was his editor.

[Ryan]

Is he okay? Because I was gonna say, like, if he doesn't have that editor anymore, like that.

[CJ]

I think no, he still.

[Ryan]

That was like a major, major part of what made his videos good.

[Ben]

So that editor stuck with him, huh?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

That's cool.

[CJ]

I'm sure he just kept paying him.

[Mike]

I'd like to have. His format will be different, but I.

[CJ]

Think it's gonna be the same. I think it's gonna be the same. And I think that he's got a die hard audience, that's for sure. That has not left him. And I think he's gonna get a lot of views. I just, I don't know if he'll have as much reason to work as hard as he did back then and like stay as consistent. I think he'll. I, you know, post.

[Ryan]

But I wonder why they let him back on.

[CJ]

Well, they re enabled a bunch of people like kind of across the board. Yeah, I don't know.

[Ryan]

I'm glad they did.

[CJ]

Yeah, it's.

[Ryan]

It's good for everyone.

[CJ]

Like Sneako got put back on.

[Mike]

You guys listen to him on the Logan the impulsive.

[CJ]

Yeah, I did listen to that. That was rough.

[Mike]

It was rough.

[Ken]

I couldn't watch it.

[Mike]

Just to your point of like, he's got a die hard following. I scrolled on the comments.

[Ben]

Yeah, everybody.

[CJ]

Not one comment was like, yeah.

[Mike]

Regardless of how you thought the podcast went, like, who, who you think maybe like was overstepping? Everyone's like, common. Steve W. Yeah.

[CJ]

I didn't think it was a Steve W. I hate to say.

[Mike]

I hate to say it too.

[Ben]

So if.

[Ken]

If you went from, like, top comments, then you could see more of, like, a little on the negative side. But still, it was like the vast majority, even on the. The latest ones were always, like, positive.

[CJ]

And that's. And that's where I'm going back to. He just has a core, die hard audience. I will stand next to him literally through whatever he seems to do and say. So I think he's gonna. I think he's gonna be popping still. Like, people love him and. And he's done a lot of things that he has given a lot of reason to love him. But yeah, I think that was a rough pot, dude. He was on drugs or drunk or something.

[Ben]

He posted for sure, right?

[CJ]

For sure drunk.

[Ben]

He posted on. His story was like, I was blacked out for that pod. Big Mike told me that he would let me review it. I was blacked out. I would have never done that if I was black.

[CJ]

It was a bad look for. Honestly, kind of all parties involved.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Probably should have just not posted that one.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Then they got to the end, they're like, should we not post it? And Mike was like, no, dude, we did it. Like, it's not. It's not that bad. Let's post it. Which, I mean, luckily we've. I mean, I guess we did the podcast with Dave, but that was different. There wasn't any. There wasn't any, like, beef there.

[Ryan]

Well, that was straight up because Dave said, you can't. You can't use that. You can't use that. You can't use that. We're like, well, all right, we don't have anything, Dave.

[Mike]

But yeah, it'd be interesting to, like, get a guest on here like that and then have, like, have it not go well at all. Like, kind of well, remember tensions.

[CJ]

I like Frankie Lepena, but when Frankie Le Pen was on here, he wanted to talk about a bunch of, like, really crazy conspiracy stories that I'd love to talk about off camera, but I don't think that it's something you should have on YouTube. So, like, we. To keep, like, trying to steer him back to, like, all right, let's talk about something that we can actually use here. And you just kept going.

[Ryan]

He was like, to get off the conspiracy.

[CJ]

Fighting it. And I'm sure that's what it felt like for them on Impulsive, except a hundred times worse when Steve's basically saying the N word. Like, you know, you just can't say that, dude.

[Ryan]

I don't think. Basically, I think just, yeah, literally, yeah.

[CJ]

It wasn't crazy what that. That's. You just can't do.

[Ryan]

So that's what I, I wonder is he gets reinstated on YouTube and he says, like, he got knocked or kicked off because he used, like, links and he opened up a new channel after the other one got deleted. I think that there was someone that just didn't like him.

[CJ]

Well, when you're, when you're saying stuff like that, you're gonna rub people the wrong way, right?

[Ryan]

And I think he got kicked off and I was like, okay, well, now that he's reinstated, I wonder if that's going to change what he publicly says. After listening to this podcast, I was like, oh, no, no, it's. It has not changed one bit. So then. And he talks all the time about how depressed he was getting kicked off YouTube and that's the only thing he wants. And like, he'd give all of his money away if he could just be a YouTuber again.

[CJ]

Yeah, it seems like.

[Ryan]

It seems sabotaging does not seem like, like you're biting the hand that feeds you essentially of like, dude, you kind of got to play by the rules a little bit. And now he, like, everything he stands for is like, I'm gonna just say what I want. Yes, you can be a YouTuber and like, push the boundaries of that, but you can't just jump the fence of like, I'm gonna just say, like, the most outlandish dude and somebody pissed if I get kicked off again.

[CJ]

Evan was saying this. One day he calls when someone self sabotaging himself as Aaron Hernandez syndrome. Or like, basically, like, you get something good going for yourself and then you self sabotage. I almost wonder. I did, I did think about this when I was watching it. I was like, okay, why. Why is this guy acting like this? He's finally getting back on YouTube and now he's acting worse than ever before. And I was like, I wonder if he's almost thinking he's not going to be able to live up to what he once was and just like acting crazy and maybe he'll get. I don't know, you know, maybe he's not even thinking about it all.

[Ryan]

If he's that self aware.

[CJ]

No, he's not that self aware, but it's almost like in the back of his mind, he's just doing that without even thinking about it. But I thought that same thing. I go, dude, you finally got what you've been complaining about for the last three years coming back to you, and now you're doing this on like a huge podcast. It's crazy style, but at the same time, dude, yes. It's nuts to see that. When I went to the comments, I was like, pro. Like, it's pretty tough to stand by that, but people were standing on it. They love him. And I don't know, dude, he was my favorite YouTuber back when he was posting it.

[Ben]

100 by far.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

It was unbelievable.

[Ryan]

So entertaining.

[CJ]

It was unbelievable. Like, he was. He was so entertaining. I still think he's super entertaining. Like watching his stories on Instagram, like, he's nuts.

[Mike]

He did a really good job of staying relevant. And I. I mean, I know that's not that hard when Instagram and all that exists, but like, he was posting his videos on X. He was trying and I'd watch some of them and. And clearly he's finding out that YouTube is like the best to post long form content. Yeah, yeah, he was posting on X and like, people were still watching his stuff. So I don't know. We'll see.

[CJ]

Yeah, man.

[Mike]

See how it goes on Christmas Eve for Steve.

[CJ]

I hope the best for him.

[Ryan]

Dude, I watched an insane YouTube video last night. This Red Bull athlete hiked up Mount Everest with no oxygen and then ski down, down.

[Mike]

I got to watch that.

[Ryan]

It's like a 35 minute video. Essentially the entire thing is him just skiing down. So that kind of puts in context of like how, how long skiing down Mount Everest take.

[Ben]

Like, aren't you not supposed to drop that much in elevation? Like, isn't there?

[Ryan]

So like the death zone. So like Camp 4 to Camp 5.

[Mike]

Is like a big change.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I want to say maybe 2,000 meters. Maybe an elevation change so you like get out of the death zone. You can only be in the death zone for like 16 hours. And he was in it for like 18. So he was like pushing it.

[Ken]

Did he make it to the summit?

[Ryan]

Yeah, like from the summit.

[Ken]

And he did that without oxygen?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Ken]

That is insane.

[Ben]

Which people have dumb. But yeah, I mean.

[Ryan]

And dude, he's skiing down and he's stopping like every 30 seconds tops and like trying to breathe and can barely breathe.

[Ben]

I know.

[Ryan]

That's 33%. Yeah, yeah, you had it. Yeah, but it's 33% of the oxygen that you get at sea level when you're that high.

[Ben]

That's so bananas. Eight, almost 9,000 meters.

[Ryan]

It's a crazy. It's a crazy video, dude. I'm gonna watch that you guys gotta.

[Ben]

Watch it so you can descend really fast, like if you.

[Ryan]

And then water. No, he had to camp at Camp 2 or something like that.

[Ben]

Got it. So he was able to go down some and then he had to stop it. Yeah, because I was wondering, like, you know, when you're diving, like, you can't just shoot up, otherwise you get the bends or whatever it's called.

[Ryan]

Yep.

[CJ]

You know, I saw that guy that we were talking about a while ago that's walking across the world. Is almost done or did he just finish? I don't know.

[Ryan]

I think he's still going.

[CJ]

He's like, almost almost done.

[Ryan]

I don't think he's that close. I think he's still like six months away.

[Ben]

He was just on the news, right?

[CJ]

Yeah, he was just on the news.

[Ryan]

Let's get a little tracker on this guy. So essentially this Guy started walking 28 years ago.

[CJ]

Yeah, something like that.

[Ryan]

From the southernmost point, I believe, in Chile. And he walked all the way up North America, through Canada, Alaska, across the barren strait, into Russia, and then all the way across Russia, Asia.

[CJ]

He's walking across the whole world, ending all alone.

[Ryan]

And the uk.

[CJ]

Think how much the world has changed. And he's just been walking every day. Like, that's the same dude.

[Mike]

So he started 28 years ago. Let's say he goes back to where he started. Like, how different it was from when he started.

[CJ]

And it's amazing. I wonder how he has money to do that.

[Mike]

I need much to do.

[CJ]

You really don't. But obviously you still need to eat, you need to sleep somewhere.

[Ryan]

So he would. He would make it, like as far as he could, say on a visa, you can be in the country for 90 days or whatever it is. And then he would go back to, like, Mexico. He would work until he could, like, rebuild a little bit more time to then get back in the country.

[CJ]

It wasn't straight.

[Ryan]

It wasn't straight. And that's why it's taken so long. Like, I don't know how many days he's been walking, but, like, there was little breaks here and there.

[Ben]

Imagine, dude, you frickin. You're doing all the walking, you stop. And he's an Istanbul now, and he stops. He just picks a point. Like I assume on a street corner goes, I'm done here. And then you fly back and then. Can you imagine that to get back, you go back to your life, you get back on the plane, you load up all your stuff and you walk back there and you stand back on that corner like, here we go.

[Mike]

It's like logging back into gta. Yeah. Dropping back. All right, where am I walking out of the hospital. All right, start this back up.

[Ben]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, he probably has a different outlook on it. He's not dreading it. He's probably looking forward to the next time he can walk, but, like, pretty crazy. Mental game 100.

[CJ]

It's not as cool that I thought that he was like, oh, he is, obviously. But, yeah, I thought it was just.

[Ben]

The last 29 years.

[CJ]

Literally just been on the road because I thought it said that he hadn't been home.

[Ryan]

He hasn't. He hasn't gone home.

[Mike]

He just goes to.

[Ryan]

Cannot go home work until he finishes the trip.

[CJ]

Yeah. CBS just did an article on him or thing seven days ago. Man prepares to finish walk around the world. That took 27 years.

[Ben]

I saw this ad on Facebook. Geoswarm drones. It's a drone that flies over your house to have a security camera from the air, and it senses anything that moves on your property and then goes over to it, films it from there.

[CJ]

And it just stays flying all day.

[Ben]

Yep. It operates under the FAA registration hassles, but it, like, knows when it's going to die, and it comes down, it lands charges, and then it takes back up.

[CJ]

How long can it really fly for, though?

[Ben]

I don't know. I can't be up there for that long.

[CJ]

Yeah, I mean, our drone lasts, like, 15 minutes.

[Ben]

And it looks like just a DJI, but I mean, they use a lot less battery when they're hovering versus zooming.

[CJ]

Around but still sleeping at night with your window open, your.

[Mike]

I'd imagine they're making them as quiet as possible, and they're like. They're pushing technology for drone blades to not make sound when they cut through the air. But can you imagine if, like, even half the houses in a neighborhood had them?

[Ben]

Bro, the whole neighborhood.

[Mike]

You wouldn't even be able to hear yourself think.

[Ken]

How much are they charging for one of those?

[CJ]

Ken's gonna have three.

[Ben]

A bunch of them flying around. I'm not sure. I'll have to look it up. You can secure it?

[Ryan]

One person and one person only. He's gonna just program it to recognize me and CJ's face.

[Mike]

He's just gonna program it to follow you guys around.

[Ben]

And it's gonna have. It's gonna have a little explosive charge in it. It's coming.

[Ryan]

I look out my window in the morning. Ken, is your drone over here? Like, Harry?

[Ken]

Just trying to make. Make sure my place is secure.

[Ben]

They Marked the neighbor's house on Google. I've been reporting it every day just for his sake.

[Mike]

That was a tough look.

[Ben]

I just, I. I know you guys think you're really funny putting things everywhere, and it's semi funny on ours, but like, you got. You had to put the angry neighbor at this guy's house every. Every day.

[CJ]

Pulls into his house, he's never gonna live it.

[Ken]

Yeah, CarPlay pops up. Just Google Maps. Angry neighbor.

[Ben]

Yeah, I want to try to park my car there.

[CJ]

Hey, what's your address? He sends. It just says angry neighbor.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And like one of the reviews says he called me slurs.

[Mike]

What?

[CJ]

I drove by and he yelled.

[Ben]

To be fair, the guy's name is Brady. Is there really any kind of slurs? So, yeah. Don't. Don't fucking do that.

[Ryan]

I'm excited for your house to be done, Ken.

[Ken]

Excited. The drywall's up. It's. It's really starting to take shape. And hopefully get out of CJ's basement soon. Actually, regardless, I do have to get out of CJ's basement by Monday. So.

[Mike]

Are we having a housewarming party by Monday?

[Ben]

Where are you gonna live?

[CJ]

I'm moving them upstairs. You're not out?

[Ken]

Yeah, I was considering.

[Ben]

I got promoted.

[Ken]

I was considering moving back in my parents until I went home for Thanksgiving. I think I'm just gonna stay here.

[Mike]

No, that's no promotion. Ken's. Ken's bedroom was huge down there.

[Ken]

CJ's remodeling the basement now, so I gotta sense take everything.

[Ryan]

The landlord's evicting you.

[CJ]

I didn't just evicted from the.

[Ben]

Just relocated him.

[CJ]

I tried actually. Having. I figured you'd be able to stay in your room. I thought they'd just like cut the carpet, leave your room, redo all the other shit and then do yours last. But they want to do it all at once, so. Which makes sense. So, yeah, I feel a little bad about that, but I mean, ultimately, you show up at like 10pm every night and then you leave by 7. Like you nobody. He goes straight to bed, gets up early, he's gone.

[Ben]

A glass of water?

[CJ]

No, he doesn't have anything. Dude, it's insane.

[Ken]

Brush my teeth.

[Mike]

He water next to your bed so quick.

[CJ]

Like, if you don't catch him on his way in, he's already in bed.

[Ken]

If I. If I drink anything before I go to bed, then I have to wake up, go pee, and then I can't fall back asleep.

[Ben]

Man, can. You are going to change so much when you have your Own house.

[CJ]

Optimize.

[Ben]

Like, you're going to be like, oh, I can eat a snack now. I can watch tv.

[CJ]

Yeah, because he's not allowed to eat a snack or watch TV at my house.

[Ben]

I just don't think he feels, like, comfortable doing that.

[Mike]

He can do it.

[Ken]

I just. I just don't.

[CJ]

Do you have. He goes out to eat every meal.

[Ken]

No, I'll eat the shop.

[Ryan]

Yeah, Ken, you got to get one of those robot maids at your house to cook you dinner, comes home.

[Ben]

Hello, honey.

[Mike]

I guess if you had a smart oven and the robot didn't actually have to, like, manually, like, turn the oven on. If it could just use your oven.

[Ben]

Will have.

[Mike]

It'll be like, AI It'll just know as soon as the chicken's done to cut the power. I just wouldn't trust a robot trying to manually turn my oven on.

[Ken]

Get one of those. Like, what are those? Like, X, AI whatever. What are those things called? Ryan, you showed it once.

[Ben]

The robot that we're talking, whatever the.

[Ken]

Robot thing is, he tries to take something out and just starts itself on fire.

[Ryan]

Speaking of start stuff on fire, cj, I saw your story the other day of that flashlight that started that piece of paper on fire.

[CJ]

Pretty sweet, huh?

[Ryan]

That's insane. Yeah, that's a high power flashlight.

[Ben]

It is. It is.

[Mike]

That.

[Ryan]

It is. Where did you even get that?

[CJ]

It was like, Amazon.

[Ryan]

It was the brightest flashlight I've ever seen.

[CJ]

It is. It is one of the brightest flashlights. And actually, it's not even that much money.

[Ryan]

Are you trying to gatekeep this thing or what?

[Ben]

Kind of put it on your Amazon?

[CJ]

It's only like 60 bucks, dude. It's insane. Or maybe it's seven.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[CJ]

It was like, for how nice a flashlight is, I cannot believe how cheap.

[Mike]

It came a long way from mag lights, you know, like, mag lights were like the flashlight to have and you stuff it with. They were probably $60, but they were not good.

[CJ]

No, it's just nice, dude, because, like, you can literally shine that thing. C.R. lake. Like, you can scope it so it's like super tight and condensed. Or you can have it wide. Like, I just use it for shining, seeing if there's any deer or what's making what. What's making noise out in the woods?

[Mike]

What's all that noise?

[CJ]

But else.

[Mike]

Do you hear that?

[CJ]

I got a pistol. I'm like. I go like, cop mode. I'm like, oh, it's just a squirrel. But then I. What is he doing now? What is he Doing now you can.

[Ryan]

Light up houses across the lake with that? Oh, yeah.

[CJ]

It's insane. I mean, you can light a piece of paper on fire if you hold it right next to it. Isn't that cool? I mean, it's just. It's unbelievable.

[Ben]

What lights it on fire? The be beams.

[CJ]

That's so hot. It's not actually. It actually doesn't light a piece of paper. I. I said that wrong. It'll light a match on fire.

[Ben]

Oh, still. Yeah.

[Ryan]

How crazy have lasers gotten, too? Like, I remember when Ryan got that laser that you could, like, damn near hit the moon with.

[Ben]

Yeah, that was pretty lit.

[Mike]

And also, laser is, like, now you can, if you want to, like, DJ in your living room and you wanted to, you could, like, build out the laser on your wall and then have it project, like, whatever you want. It's crazy.

[Ryan]

Is that what you have at your house?

[Mike]

No, I know.

[Ryan]

You got to get a little at home. DJ set.

[Mike]

Maybe when I learned.

[Ben]

Sometimes I wonder. I feel like we should use some of our discretionary money around here, just. And just do things like that, like have a little laser wall.

[Ryan]

Do we have discretionary money?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Instead of blowing money on one thing, we can blow money on something else.

[Ben]

Think of all the money we've saved this month, not having to buy a new drone.

[Ryan]

We did have to buy a new drone.

[Ben]

No, that was last month.

[Ken]

No, we bought the drone last month. Dalton crashed it, and then I used our insurance to get a new one.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah, they're gonna get rid of that insurance program. That was unbelievable, losing so much money.

[Ken]

It was incredible. Yeah, Dalton destroyed it beyond repair, and they just sent a new one. It was great.

[Ben]

It's pretty awesome, actually.

[Ryan]

That's how it'd be like if. If Ken had drones hovering over his house, those things would be getting crashed. They would crash into each other, knowing.

[CJ]

This guy's history, and shoot him like clay pigeons. That's what we'll do before we go to prank you. Ken's got his drones. All right, move in. We only got 15 minutes till he's here.

[Ryan]

You know, we need to get. Is one of those net shotguns.

[CJ]

Yeah, we net it down.

[Ryan]

Yeah, net gun. We need one of those.

[Mike]

We. We could do.

[Ken]

See, there's our discretionary spending for the month. Yeah, that shotgun.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but that we would actually use for. For something. Yeah, we would.

[CJ]

A net gun we could actually use.

[Ken]

Exactly. That's our discretionary spending for the month.

[Ryan]

Well, if that's the case, then everything we buy around here is discretionary.

[Ken]

Now. Now you're starting to get the picture.

[Ben]

This is why ken became a YouTuber.

[Ryan]

This guy.

[Ken]

Buy something weird, make a video profit.

[CJ]

Wow. Ken was good idea. Strategical in the way he drew this all.

[Ryan]

Yeah, Ken. We're still playing out Ken's 10 year vision.

[Ben]

Get nickname make video disappear.

[Mike]

Abstract products. And it's Black Friday, so I'm gonna go spend some money.

[Ryan]

Yeah. What are you buying, Mike?

[Mike]

I don't know. What should we get asking Sydney?

[Ryan]

You already spent all of our money. That's what she's thinking. Did you just buy a bunch of last week?

[Mike]

I. I think it's worth a stroll, like through the mall. Here's the tough thing. You go into Best Buy, you think that all. All these great deals, like Best Buy at one of many stores. That was a great place to be on Black Friday. Right.

[Ben]

It's not the same anymore.

[Mike]

All of that shit's online, so why would you even go?

[Ken]

I went to the gym this morning, drove by all the, like, retail stores in the area, which are small town stores. And I have never seen these stores busier. Like every single good, like, people were parked on the street, they were so busy.

[Mike]

For the record, how it's always been. And so I'm glad to see that it's. It's still.

[Ben]

It's not even small business Saturday.

[Ken]

It was L and M. Fleet had like cars on the side of the highway trying to get in there.

[Mike]

Everybody loves a good deal, a good deal, good deal.

[Ben]

People need to start fighting and selling.

[Mike]

Fleet is a good example of like, they don't. Do they have an online store?

[Ken]

Maybe.

[Mike]

Maybe they do, but their presence isn't crazy there. Like, that's like, go to the store and buy the pallet of monsters for 10 bucks and some tools.

[Ken]

Aldi had a line when I went to the gym this morning.

[Ryan]

Wow, that seems crazy. People at a grocery store, like, how.

[Mike]

How much money are you going to be saving? You're like, I went.

[Ryan]

Grocery stores are running Black Friday deals, though.

[Mike]

Let's say they are, though. You save.

[Ben]

Yeah. As Aldi, running Black Friday deals.

[Mike]

40 bucks on your grocery.

[CJ]

I don't see why they wouldn't. I feel like you can't be a business and not be running a Black Friday sale, you know? You know what I wish had a Black Friday sale? The stock market and bitcoin, like, how awesome would that be? Get a little bit of a discount.

[Ken]

It was Black Friday sales last week when everything dipped.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it was on sale. Ryan, you brought up a good point. People need to start Fighting in stores again. Yeah, people just don't have this, you know, ferocious.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Deal hunting mentality anymore.

[CJ]

Well, they run it differently.

[Mike]

They've learned from their computer.

[CJ]

Dude, people used to, like, die on Black Friday, like, trying to go into Walmart and there'd be like a stampede and they get just trampled over trying to get like a. A tv.

[Ryan]

That's because Walmart and these big retail stores wouldn't be open until midnight. Like, people. But now they're running these sales like, oh, Black Tuesday, dude, it was.

[CJ]

It was way more lit when they do it. Yeah. At midnight on Black Friday, right after Thanksgiving. But then it's like people started cheating the system and they start doing it a little bit earlier because they're trying to beat the other person. Now it's like they're running Black Friday deals in October. It's just like. Like pointless. But, dude, I remember in high school, me and my boys, we didn't need anything, but we just were like, we.

[Ryan]

Gotta get in on.

[CJ]

So we just. We just went to places and, like, stood around and then, like, got in there and then we just like, grabbed something, like just something stupid, like a toaster. I got it.

[Mike]

We used to do that. No, it used to be like early Friday morning. Like, so. Yeah, you'd wake up, Target were open at 7. They would open at 5 for those doorbuster deals. Okay, cool, we'll go. And then it was like midnight and we would go and just. Okay, I guess we're not sleeping.

[CJ]

Look at this.

[Ben]

Look at that guy running around the GoPro too.

[CJ]

Oh, get up, get up.

[Ben]

You do not want to be at.

[Ryan]

The bottom of the pile, dude.

[CJ]

That's insane. Dude.

[Ben]

The lady with the car.

[CJ]

Oh, my gosh, bro. Oh, my gosh, dude. And it's like, dude, this is like watching the Travis Scott festival when people were in.

[Ryan]

Yeah, Astro World.

[Ben]

I would go there and buy a microwave. I don't even need a microwave, but I'd come home with one also.

[Mike]

Screw.

[CJ]

Like, what is they going on, dude?

[Mike]

Like, it's one thing.

[Ben]

Look at him fighting lady. Dude, she was pink hair. Lady before pink hair.

[Ryan]

I got it.

[CJ]

That guy got it, threw it to their friend at the castle.

[Ben]

Someone else threw it back.

[Mike]

They don't care, dude.

[CJ]

They're fighting over these TVs, dude. Like, how? Like, this was fun.

[Ken]

They're fighting over vacuums.

[Mike]

This is insane. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. It's insane.

[CJ]

Like, no, but that is insane. Dude, you're gonna save.

[Mike]

How much Screw being during this time.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

For real, to just have to check a bunch of people out and. And get a bunch of people going, that's one thing. But another thing to have to, like.

[CJ]

Be a security guard when you're crying.

[Mike]

You didn't sign up for this.

[Ryan]

Fighting over things.

[CJ]

We missed out on some opportunity, guys, we should have been filming this. But it's not like this anymore. They've figured out how to set it up so.

[Ken]

Well, there's just too many. There's. You just buy stuff online. There's half as many people that are actually going.

[CJ]

They have, like, ticket items, too. Like, so when you're standing in line, it's like, okay, you're. We have a hundred of these TVs. Who's in line for the TV? I am. Here's your ticket. Here's this, that. So then it's like, they prevent that.

[Mike]

I've even seen that, like, online, you know, if. If you are, you get this insane deal on a tv. But there's only a hundred deals to be had. And who knows that sometimes could be a lie, sometimes not. They're just running Black Friday deals. Like, maybe an exaggeration, but like CJ said in October, like, they're running Black Friday deals from last week on Amazon. Right?

[Ben]

Amazon started November 20, which was eight days ago.

[Mike]

So then here I open up Amazon today, thinking that they're at least gonna have, like, the best deals today. They're all the same. There's all the same. Maybe they're a little better, but all the stuff I looked at, same price.

[CJ]

All right, here we go.

[Ryan]

What do we got here?

[CJ]

So the thing about this, though, two TVs.

[Ryan]

The thing about this is you're capitalizing on panic buyers. So people go in, they do not need a TV, but they see all these TVs flying off the shelves, and they're like, you know what? I do need a tv.

[Ben]

Oh, look at this guy. He snuck on the escalator to grab him. Yeah, you're right, Ben. They're just like, all right, I guess I just gotta get it.

[Ryan]

Dude, panic buying is a real thing, dude.

[CJ]

They're just fighting over it.

[Ben]

Look like that guy grabbed.

[CJ]

Dude, the elderly are just a Samsung, bro. I feel like TVs used to be, like, such a premium item.

[Ryan]

I mean, Sean Kingston was willing to go to jail over it.

[CJ]

I mean, like, Like. But especially, like, back in the day. Remember, like, that really big TV that I broke at Grandpa's with. With the pool cue?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

It's like a tv. Like, that was just, like, such a Luxury item. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you have one of those, you're big balling.

[Mike]

I remember when we got a big screen tv. It was like getting a new car.

[CJ]

Like, yeah, it's like you spent. You spent. You were researching. You're doing all this stuff now. It's like, TVs are so cheap and so easy to just, like, buy. Like, you don't have to, like, you know, think about moving that thing, dude. Like, it's just. It's unbelievable.

[Ben]

They used to take three people to get the TV downstairs.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude, they're almost. They're just a disposable product. You know, if, like, if you were in a pickle and you're like, oh, my TV broke. Does anyone have a TV I could, like, have or, like, buy? And someone's like, yeah, I got one. I got one in, like, a room I don't use.

[Ben]

My mom has a famous Black Friday shopping line. I used to hear say her and all her aunts when they returned from shopping, we saved more than we spent. And that was their rationale as to spending probably thou. I mean, you know, they were grabbing Christmas gifts for everybody, but it was, you know, collectively as a crew, I'm sure they spent thousands of dollars, but we saved more than we spent.

[CJ]

Dude, if you're saving more than you spent, you did a really good job.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Also, if you're only buying it because it's on sale, no, you shouldn't be buying it in the first place.

[Ben]

They were. They were buying stuff they needed.

[Ryan]

He's getting. Trying to get punched in the face by Mike.

[Mike]

Well, no, I completely agree.

[Ken]

If that's the only reason you're buying something is because it's on sale.

[Mike]

I think to your point, like, the panic buying is totally a thing. But, like, if I was going and I was getting through trying to grab a tv, it's because, like, I. I waited for Black Friday to buy a tv. Maybe not now, because I have, you know, a little more money to work with, but, like, before, if I was, like, waiting outside of Best Buy because I wanted the GoPro that I knew would be on sale for Black Friday.

[Ben]

Yeah. Can't argue with that.

[Mike]

Kind of what I was getting at. I might. We might go out shopping today, and I just want there to be, like, actually good deals. I don't want there to just be, like, a waste of my time.

[Ben]

This is so crazy, dude.

[Ryan]

I tried firing up my Xbox. Yeah, dude. Can't figure it out. That thing's just giving me a hard Time. Honestly, it's like everything about gaming just doesn't work for me.

[Mike]

Ben's like, I'm just bad at.

[Ryan]

I'm bad at even turning the Xbox on.

[Mike]

I'm trying to think. Did you get into a game last night?

[Ryan]

No, it straight up wouldn't let me sign in. It was crazy.

[Mike]

Just got the red ring and just.

[Ryan]

DJ was even there watching it.

[Mike]

It was.

[Ryan]

It was crazy.

[Mike]

Oh, if he could.

[Ben]

If he could figure it out then.

[Mike]

Your Xbox is broken.

[CJ]

Yeah, no, it's just had the bad wifa. But James, your. Your brother in law had a great idea. Since you're so bad at playing Xbox, he thinks you should twitch stream it. And I was like, that's actually a genius idea. I love that idea because you are so bad at Xbox. That would be the draw. Like people be like, I can't believe how bad he is comment. Like, dude, they'd have to keep watching. Like there's no way he's actually this. But like, they'd be like, what is this guy blind? Like, is there a blind? With the controller you'd be doing some shit. Then you'd look down like, okay, a's right there. Like, it would be insane to watch.

[Ryan]

I don't know.

[CJ]

I think you should do it. I think you should do it. Twitch stream it. I mean, you know, eventually I'm sure you'd start to get good. So it'd be a short run.

[Ryan]

Yeah, be a short run, but like.

[CJ]

You'D be that guy. You could be the top streamer for.

[Ryan]

Probably a week or two until I got good enough to not be getting murked by eight year olds every second. Yeah, no, I do agree. I do agree. It's just not my. It's not my thing. Not my thing, apparently. I don't even know how to. I don't even know how to turn it on.

[Ben]

Good for you, bud. You can go read a book or something, you know.

[Ryan]

I don't know how to read either.

[Ben]

You're right, that's my bad. I forgot.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's.

[Ken]

Go listen to a book.

[Ben]

Go listen to a book.

[Mike]

We'll get you in some VR goggles. You know how to use your hands.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I mean, I would like to think, but it's still. It's still kind of leaning on like the video game walk into Ben's house.

[CJ]

Ben's in VRs.

[Mike]

What's up guys?

[Ryan]

Are you use the front door?

[Mike]

Yeah, I can see you being good at VR.

[Ben]

Well, good stuff, fellas. Thanks for being here. Thank you guys for watching. We got a couple more podcasts. We're going strong through the end of the year.

[Mike]

So yeah, we got the Yukon Denali and the 2500 Denali Ultimate Truck Giveaway going right now. So head on over. So much sick stuff on the website. Like for real. Probably the most sick stuff we've ever had. So just go check it out and see bestevis.combaby.com grab something or just subscribe if you can't. Thanks guys.

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