CboysTV Rates YouTubers Cars

Summary

Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode: "CboysTV Rates YouTubers Cars"

Release Date: January 10, 2023

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, the CboysTV crew—CJ, Micah, Ryan, Ben, Ken, and Evan—dive into the world of YouTuber cars, giving frank ratings and opinions on some of the most iconic and outlandish rides in the influencer car scene. Along the way, they share business and customer service stories, real-life email and scam anecdotes, and classic friendship banter. From telemarketer calls and customer service woes to a breakdown of SEMA builds and questionable Alibaba bike deals, the episode is packed with automotive passion, humor, and unfiltered group dynamics.

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Main Discussion Segments & Timestamps

1. Telemarketers, Business Calls, and Customer Service Hell

[00:00 – 12:28]

• The group opens by venting about the annoyance of telemarketer calls and how Ben, in particular, seems to attract them.
  • Ben: “They see a sucker coming from a mile away.” [00:15]
• Discussion on whether asking to be taken off lists actually works—it doesn’t, per their experience.
• Ken explains his real issue: his phone gets 100+ calls a day, mostly from fans (kids) or customer service queries.
  • Ken: "One kid called me 15 times last night." [03:22]
• The Cboys discuss the inevitable trade-offs between being responsive and being overwhelmed—and how texts and voicemails are sometimes managed (or ignored).
  • Micah: "It weighs on me more when I respond to them right away, and then they respond right away, and then I'm like, here we are again." [04:58]
• Customer Service Insights: Ken's role as the team's front line for customer orders, with comments on how crucial good service is for return business.
  • Ben: "You're running the customer service of at least a three man team." [09:07]
• Customer service issues—lack of detail in DMs, the importance of communication, and the high stakes of making drop sales work.

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2. YouTuber Car Ratings – Deep Dive

[12:53 – 33:17]

A. Stradman’s Lamborghini Aventador (Liberty Walk, Pink, Widebody)

[13:16 – 16:12]

• Background: Liberty Walk widebody, custom interior, pink/white, built as a tribute to Stradman's dad.
  • CJ: "I'd have to say ten." [13:55]
  • Micah: "9.9." [13:53]
  • Ryan: "I'm going to play Devil's Avocado, 8.2…it's very loud, and I think it works." [13:58]
• Discusses how wild and over-the-top it is—perfect “YouTuber car” energy.
• Downsides: Outdated Lambo interior tech, white dash glare.
• Micah: “Everything about it is perfect...only reason I took the one tick off was because it, it's pink.” [15:01]

B. WhistlinDiesel’s AMG G63 "G-Wagon"

[16:15 – 18:54]

• 1,000 hp, lifted, heavily modified, capable, but retains luxury.
  • CJ: "10. This is the coolest G wagon I've ever seen." [16:37]
  • Ryan: "I'd give it like in the nines...he nailed it." [16:54]
• The group especially appreciates that it’s still usable and capable—WhistlinDiesel jumped it at the dunes.
  • Ken: "99% of people who own G Wagons will never take that thing off the pavement, and he's just full sending it." [18:54]
• Memorable moment: They marvel at the cost—$300K for a G-Wagon.

C. TJ Hunt’s 2020 C8 Corvette (Twin Turbo, Widebody)

[19:06 – 24:10]

• Fully custom, 1,500 hp, widebody kit (his own brand).
  • Micah: "9.9 for me." [19:33]
  • CJ: "I'm giving this a seven, dude. Maybe a seven and a half…the rear is too wide. It's not proportionate." [19:38]
• The crew criticizes the proportions and the rear fenders, but like the lack of bolt-on appearance.
• Side discussion: Is anyone paying $250k for a non-Z06 C8 Corvette just because a YouTuber owned it?
  • CJ: "I don't think anybody with that type of money is buying a car like that." [23:16]
  • Preference: Most would take a Z06 for the same price.

D. CboysTV’s Own SEMA Truck (2019 F350, Show Build)

[24:10 – 33:41]

• Huge SEMA build, 26” rims, 40” tires, extensively built, black/red.
  • Micah: "I got to give this thing a 9.5. I really love this truck." [24:47]
  • CJ: "I'd have to give it like a 9 actually. Maybe a little higher…” [25:00]
  • Ryan: "It’s the perfect mix of how overstated and loud it is, but yet it's still not ridiculous." [25:26]
• Major praise for build quality, but Ben, who received a slew of violations and tickets, is jaded:
  • Ben: “With that being said, I just personally do not like anything about the truck for usability wise. It just sucks if you actually want to drive it.” [27:53]
• Debate about whether “show” builds should be actually used or are just for display.
  • Ben: "It is a work of art, but sometimes works of art need to just stay on the wall." [29:58]

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3. Scams, Alibaba & the Surron Fiasco

[35:41 – 48:19]

• Micah recounts a convoluted, real-time scam involving trying to buy a Sur-Ron e-bike directly from China via Alibaba.
  • Initial deal: $2,000 + $500 shipping. Then hits with “customs fees” ($990 to a random Venmo named Jason Lawrence).
  • Micah: "Okay, then they were like, sweet. Send the receipt. I did. And then they were like, cool. Now do you want to pay the customs charge for the other 10?" [38:26]
• The group collectively facepalms as the red flags stack up: payment via Venmo, shipment stuck in Mexican customs, the “11-bikes-in-a-shipment” surprise.
  • CJ: "You lost me at Venmoing for the customs. That ain't coming." [39:44]
  • Ken: "You, you Venmoed the mob? Basically, yeah." [40:32]
• The group laughs reading through the Venmo account history—Jason Lawrence is just a normal guy getting money marked as “pet supplies” and “prescription meds."
  • Memorable moment: Micah’s memo on Venmo payment: "Who the hell is Jason Lawrence?" [46:30]
• Lessons about Chinese manufacturing, identical products, and knockoffs versus originals.
  • Micah: "At the end of the day, it's still up to the shipping company because they took..." [47:12]
• Ben tries to console Micah: "Life kicks you in the nuts sometimes." [49:35]
• Micah holds hope for an 11-bike windfall but the group is unconvinced.

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4. Jewelry, Flexing, and NFL Sidetracks

[51:09 – 56:00]

• The crew debates fake vs. real jewelry, especially ShopGLD Cuban link chains, and the culture around flexing: “It's obviously fake, at least to me.” [53:02]
• Discussion segues to the NFL—Justin Jefferson’s grills and chains (“$200,000 for his grills and he plays with them in.” [54:36]), on-field player flex culture, and questions about jewelry rules in pro sports.

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5. Minnesota Vikings, Hopes, and Philosophy of Winning

[56:06 – 62:43]

• The Vikings playoff run: Is this the year? (Skepticism vs. hope.)
  • Ben: "I don't cry much, but I will actually cry [if the Vikes win the Super Bowl]." [58:11]
  • CJ: "It's like a movie every time...most entertaining team for sure." [56:27]
  • Micah: "The whole team just continues to stay positive." [60:14]
  • Ryan: Reflects on how the new head coach has meaningfully turned the team around, stressing the value of attitude and team chemistry.
• Life lesson: The group concludes: “Attitude is everything...literally with everything you do in life.” [60:56]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On telemarketers:
  • "They see a sucker coming from a mile away." - Ben [00:15]
• On customer messages:
  • "I've never met someone who hates dealing and talking to people more than Ken, but who's in customer service." - Ben [09:12]
• On Stradman's Lambo:
  • "It's such a YouTuber car. It's so over the top. It's ridiculous." - Ben [15:28]
• On Micah’s Alibaba debacle:
  • "You lost me at Venmoing for the customs. That ain't coming." - CJ [39:44]
  • "Who the hell is Jason Lawrence?" - Micah [46:30]
• Vikings loyalty:
  • "If the Vikes win the Super Bowl, I will cry." - Ben [58:11]

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Key Episode Takeaways

• The YouTuber car scene is about standing out; loud, unique builds (Stradman, WhistlinDiesel) get the most respect—when they’re both showy and functional.
• Sharing behind-the-scenes YouTube business provides equal parts entertainment and insight—balancing fan outreach, legit business, and time management is a daily struggle.
• Getting scammed on international purchases is all too easy—Venmo “customs payments” and extra shipments are red flags to run from.
• NFL sidetracks and Vikings talk exemplify hope, resilience, and the camaderie of the group—translating football lessons into life lessons.
• At the heart, the CboysTV mantra rings clear: do it big, have fun, and keep it real (even if you get scammed sometimes).

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For the best moments, listen in around:

• [13:15] – Stradman's Lambo debate kicks off the car ratings.
• [16:15] – WhistlinDiesel's G-Wagon admiration.
• [24:10] – SEMA truck deep-dive and debate about its practicality.
• [35:41] – Hilarious Alibaba scam breakdown.
• [56:00] – Raw Minnesota Vikings optimism and life reflections.

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This episode is a snapshot of CboysTV at their best: brutally honest, hilariously self-deprecating, and completely immersed in YouTuber car culture.

Transcript

[A]

You know what's the most annoying thing in the world?

[B]

What's that?

[A]

Right when you get a call from a telemarketer. Have you all gotten calls from a telemarketer?

[C]

Of course.

[B]

Almost every day.

[A]

Ben gets a lot, and I don't really know why Ben gets so many for some reason. I think it was an insurance thing that you did.

[D]

I do get a lot.

[C]

They see a sucker coming from a.

[A]

Mile away, and you always are so kind to them. You're like, hello? And you're like, yep. Nope. Okay. And then you would sometimes even hear them out. You used to, like, listen to their spiel and go, no, no, no, I'm good. I'm good.

[D]

Yes. Kind of at the end of the day, most of these people are just telemarketers just doing their job. They're not scam, like, call call centers.

[A]

Totally agree with that.

[D]

So I'm not going to just be like, hey, yo, how about you piss off, mate?

[C]

He's not going to turn Australian on him.

[D]

No, no, no. So the reason that I'm on this calling list of its insurance telemarketers.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Is because I must have gotten, like, a Facebook or an Instagram ad of, like, looking for insurance, because I was looking for insurance at the time. And then I was like, I'm looking for insurance. And then I give them all of my information willingly.

[B]

Now you have to.

[D]

But no, that did get me really good insurance rates, though. So it's like, it's kind of worth. I got a good rate, but I also have to deal with this now. And it goes in waves where I'll get like 10 to 20 different calls in the span of, like, five days. And then it'll just go like a week of nothing.

[B]

And.

[D]

And then I'm like, oh, I'm off the list finally. And then I get another call from another, like, North Dakota address, and I'm like, oh. And it just goes silent. I'm like, damn it, I'm back on the list.

[B]

Oh, okay. Well, when you say that they're from, like, an ND area code, that's why they're still a little scammy, because they'll use your area code to call you so that you think that it's coming from your area.

[D]

And every single time I look at the number and I go, is this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Is this the insurance number or not? And I'm like, I better just answer just in case.

[A]

My thought on it is every time you do it, my dad does it. He goes, yep. Please, please take me off Your list. Do you think that they even take you off a list? Or do you think you just like, is it even worth saying that? Or are you just better off going like, no, I'm good.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

Have a nice day. Because you don't want to be a dick.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

They're doing their job.

[D]

They keep calling you.

[A]

But do they like, obviously the. The message was across that you do not want what they want. So do you think.

[D]

In my experience, they keep calling.

[A]

Do you think. Yeah, saying please take me off your list actually gets you off the list?

[D]

No, but neither does the other one. And it seems like that one's a little bit more effective where it'll get. Buy you like two weeks span versus five days.

[E]

I've got a solution for you.

[D]

Block the numbers.

[A]

No.

[E]

You can set your iPhone so it blocks any number that you don't have in your contact.

[B]

Yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, I can't do that.

[D]

Dude, you have no idea how terrible that is for business of, like, everyone else trying to get a hold of you that then thinks that you ignore them for months on end, which you might actually. They aren't blocked. And then they finally come to us. Hey, I've been trying to get a hold of Ken for the last six months. I have this really good opportunity for you guys, and Ken's just been straight up ignoring me.

[E]

The problem is I get at least 100 calls a day from kids asking, say, hey, what's up? So I was just like, I can't take all those calls, so I just have to go.

[D]

That's 100 calls a day.

[E]

Yes. One kid called me 15 times last night.

[C]

Okay, that's.

[D]

If that is the case. That is super annoying.

[B]

He does. Dude, I've seen it. Like, we think we get a lot. Ken gets so many. And he gets the persistent ones too.

[A]

And that actually, if they want to.

[E]

Get ahold of me, they'll shoot me a text or I'll already have them on my contacts list.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, our voicemail's dead. Because I still want people to leave me a voicemail. If you need to get a hold of me, leave me a voicemail.

[D]

I think it's tough text with you, though, because even if you do get the message, you don't respond for weeks.

[B]

On end unless it's important.

[D]

Yeah, but how many times do you respond to a message or a call, like, four weeks later?

[B]

Often. How.

[A]

How can you not just, like, do it right off the bat?

[B]

I respond to some right away, some a day later. Some a week later, some two weeks later, some three weeks.

[A]

Yeah, but why. Obviously, you do that. But why do you choose to respond to some four weeks later?

[B]

I don't. Well, because I put it on my to do list, and then I still got to. I have a reading.

[A]

Do you think it takes more time to physically go, I need to text Stevie Wonder back about his thing? And then you go, call Stevie Wonder back? Or is it easier to just go, hey, Stevie, let's.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

But then get that Wonder Bread done?

[B]

I have to, like, sometimes mentally tax myself with whatever that person is potentially requesting.

[A]

That. That's true.

[B]

Don't you feel, like, valid both ways?

[D]

If you ignore somebody or you're not responding to a certain thing that you have to deal with for a set amount of time, doesn't that weigh on you?

[B]

Yeah, a little.

[D]

When you just want to get it.

[B]

Out of the way. No, it weighs on me more. Honestly. It weighs on me more when I, like, respond to them right away, and then they respond right away, and then I'm like, here we are again. If. If they're requesting something, we're being productive. I mean, not necessarily, because, like, you. It's like, maybe. Let's say it's a buddy who want. Like, now I just tell them, like, I can't do it. But if it's a buddy that's like, hey, can you do something for me? And then I'm like, maybe. And then they'll be like, can you design me a wrap for my dirt bike? And then I. And now I just be like, ah, dude, no way. I don't have time. I'd love to, but. And it's stuff like that. Like, when they're trying to get something out of you, it's so hard to just, like, drag them along.

[D]

Was that a subtweet that felt like that was directed directly at me?

[B]

At you?

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

You know how many times I've asked Micah to make me a rap for something like, that was so specific.

[B]

It's funny, because. No, it's not at you at all, because creating a rap for you is, like, on. It's like being on payroll.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Yeah. All right.

[D]

Never mind. I felt a little attacked there for a second.

[C]

I have a question. How do you respond to telemarketers, Ryan?

[A]

I've gotten them because my numbers on some of the Shopify stuff. So, like, some guy from some company will be like, hey, I can get you text marketing. And I just go, hey, we're good. Like, no, thank you. And then you hang up.

[C]

So you don't yell at them or nothing.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

Psycho.

[A]

You don't need the. Like, I used to do the whole thing where you listen to the spiel. Then you're like, yeah, maybe we'll let me talk to the guys. And then they keep calling you back. And that's a little more specific to a. A business decision. But, like, it's pretty easy to just be like, I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm not interested. Bye.

[D]

You know what? You have more than telemarketers, Ryan Financial Advisors.

[A]

Yeah, I do. I have a lot of them. And. And that.

[B]

And credit card offers.

[A]

Yeah. For those guys, it's tough because you know them.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you're just like, ah, I'm sorry. I already got a guy. He's taken care of it and it's done. So at least now that I have it taken care of, it's way easier. But when I didn't, I'd be like, ah, yeah, I'll hear you out.

[D]

That is a tough position too, because usually when you tell them like, oh, I've got a guy, they're always like, I can beat him.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then it's like, ah, man, you feel bad too.

[A]

Like, now that my sister has graduated or her friends have, like, they're getting into that. So then they'll start calling me and I'll be like, hey, listen, dude, you can do this. I'm sorry that I'm shutting you down, but, like, good luck with your career.

[B]

So that you're talking about. Those are people you personally know?

[A]

Yeah. There's like, hey, Sydney gave me your number and we went to college together, and I'm just starting out selling insurance. I always feel bad, you know, you're just chopping down some kid's dream.

[D]

But yeah, I had one where the guy gave me this feeling everything. And I was like, look, man, I'm not interested. I've got a guy. And to be completely honest, I get one of these calls at least once a week, especially around this age, because we have so many friends that are now graduating and doing it. And I was like, dude, I'm not interested. And he was like, well, how about we grab lunch? And I was like. I was like, man, I'm really busy. Yeah, I'm really busy. And you could tell, you could just hear it in my voice. And he was like, all good, man.

[A]

Yeah, but it's gotta be cold calling people like that and, like, actually getting a hundred no's to one. Yes. Like that. That's gotta be tough. Good for them. If you're doing it, keep doing it, dude.

[D]

Some people are just meant for that with sales, like, they're just like relentless. And those are the guys that make the big bucks. Like, like they can just constantly be shut down and rejected and then finally it just clicks and next thing you know you're into a hundred thousand dollars in penny stocks.

[A]

Right. Jordan Belfort. Back to Ken, though. I think it's tough for him because he gets so many customer service things. Like all day he is bombarded with personal requests for like little jobs for him to do. And he's pretty damn good at it. I don't know how many emails he gets a day, but he probably takes care of 99.5% of them. But occasionally one person will slip through the cracks and then they send the dm. Like, Ken's been ignoring me for three months and my shirt sucks and all this. And we're like, Ken, can you take care of this? Or like, Ken, what the fuck? You need to respond to people. But I think in general he does a pretty good job.

[B]

You're running the customer service of at least a three man team.

[D]

I've never met somebody who hates dealing and talking to people more than Ken, but who's in customer service?

[E]

Dude, the problem is so many people, they're like, where is they? They, they give you like this little morsel of information, but it's not like all the information you need to figure something out of what's going on. And it's. The other thing is a lot of people will send it to our Instagram account and nobody goes through every little DM that we get in our Instagram account.

[A]

Little minute.

[E]

So it might go like, nobody might see that forever.

[B]

Yeah. And that one's tough. Cause like, if they're actually missing their order, but they just give you like almost no information, that means you need to follow up with them and then wait for their response back with more information to yet still figure out what the issue is.

[D]

Yeah, it's so nitpicky and annoying to deal with, but it's so important because I think our returning customer rate is like 65%, like crazy drop after drop. 65% of the people that order are going to come back. And if they had a bad experience, then they're not going to. And I do that all the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

When I'm ordering something and if it's a pain in the butt to ship it back or if they don't give me the option or there's no communication at all. I'm just like, dude, I'm never ordering.

[C]

Or it's like a bad shirt. Like I've ordered other YouTubers, merchants, merch and like it was garbage. Like ours is, ours is nice. Like we make sure it's good.

[B]

Definitely do. And also, like, people have a tendency to speak out loud to their peers and friends. You could have like three good experiences and then one bad experience. And then if the experience was bad enough, you'd bring it up to your friends and then they'd probably be like, I'm probably not going to order either.

[D]

I've heard both sides of things where they're like, Ken's been ignoring me for six months. But I've also heard the complete opposite of Ken is so on top of it.

[C]

He's.

[D]

He responds to my emails at 9pm at night and got my order fixed right away. So I'll give you some credit there, Ken. You do great with the customers and maybe not so great with, with our immediate friends that are trying to get ahold of you.

[E]

I'm gonna go through my, my recent calls list. Just look at all the red ones. The red ones are people not in my contact list and that just get auto blocked.

[D]

Oh my God.

[E]

They're more than 50 phone number.

[C]

Dude, for your personal phone, I need.

[E]

A business phone and I was considering setting up my a new phone number.

[B]

I don't think it'd be that crazy for Ken to have a business.

[C]

I don't either. I think it'd be worth it for that matter.

[A]

He could have his government name phone and then his, his Ken phone.

[B]

But I'm also thinking.

[A]

Walking around with like, you know, the people that like set their phones down. There's two of them, they're walking around holding two phones, pulling them both out. Be a real businessman.

[D]

It's pretty ball, but I'm scrolling on both hands.

[B]

I'm thinking even if we have Reddit.

[A]

Accounts for everything, even if we have.

[B]

This second phone where the number is semi public, you know, we're not going to like post it everywhere, but it's something you reach. Ken can't carry that phone on him. It's going to be buzzing all over.

[E]

Two SIM cards.

[B]

No, dude, you got to flex and get two.

[C]

You imagine Ken akimbo scrolling.

[D]

Yeah, Ken, I can see it.

[A]

He's got Twitter up on one and read it up on the other.

[B]

Taking in all the information.

[A]

Ken like starts getting like the lizard eyes where they go out because he' looking at both of Them taking trolls.

[D]

To a whole another level.

[A]

But I did want to give you credit, Ken. You do a damn good job with customer service. And if you have ever ordered something, you've dealt with Ken personally, and I hope you've had a good experience. And Also, speaking of 60% of returning customers, only 50% of the people are subscribed to this podcast. So if you're listening now and you are not subscribed, please do.

[D]

I'm cracking up again.

[C]

Having lizard eyes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Going cockeyed to scroll on Vito.

[D]

All right, I want to do a bit where I pop up. Youtubers cars. Now, we've all watched the videos of them being built or them doing anything with them on the Internet and then ask you guys what you rate them. 1 to 10. All right. Also, I want to say when I was going through and trying to narrow down just a couple of cars to do, bro, so many YouTubers have so many unique and cool cars these days, and it was really difficult.

[B]

But.

[D]

All right, first one up, Stradman's Lamborghini Aventador Pirelli edition with Liberty Walk wide body kit, Rosa Cantus paint, and white pinstriping. The paint job is one of three painted in this color in the world, and it's got a custom all white and pink interior. The story behind it was it was in an accident with a police car before he bought it, and now it's a salvage title that he completely rebuilt.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

So pretty cool.

[C]

But with his dad, I think, too.

[D]

Or he finished it on the day that his dad passed away. So he kind of. It's in memory of his dad, but.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Okay, Mike. One out of ten.

[B]

9.9.

[D]

CJ?

[C]

I'd have to say ten.

[B]

Right.

[A]

See, I think you can put a kit in that color in that wing on a heavy modified Lambo like that. So I think it all works together pretty well. But it seems to be a bit overstayed for me. I'm going to play Devil's Avocado 8.2. So still, it's very loud, and I think it works.

[C]

For a YouTuber, it looks amazing. I guess the only bad part about Aventadors in general is the interior is very outdated. Like the screen and all that. Have you noticed that?

[D]

Yeah, I think. Why is that? Most Lambos are. I think most.

[C]

It's even worse.

[D]

Like.

[C]

And that's a more expensive Lamborghini.

[B]

If I had to guess, it would just be. I remember when I saw a Bugatti interior and someone explained that they try to keep it timeless.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say they're playing in on that.

[C]

Which is if you look at it, it's not just oh it, I don't know. But they just haven't changed it.

[A]

I don't think of all the things. My favorite part is the full custom interior. Like that's what makes, that's what to me sets it apart.

[C]

His white dash, I guess is like problematic because it reflects onto the, the windshield.

[D]

Windshield. So angle so.

[C]

And I guess it's kind of hard to see.

[B]

Everything about it is perfect. So loud. It looks like one of the fastest cars you'd ever see on the road. The only reason I took it, the one tick off was because it, it's pink. I, I love that it's painted, but I would do it like any other color besides pink. But it still looks beautiful.

[D]

I mean you're really never going to see a wide body Aventador like this, but you're really never going to see a pink wide body with white wheels, white interior, big ass wing.

[A]

Very true.

[D]

I think loud exhaust, everything about it.

[B]

One of a kind for sure.

[D]

It's. It's such a YouTuber car. It's so over the top. It's ridiculous. I think he absolutely killed it on it. Here's like a side shot of it that I think is really shows like the angles of it, how sharp it is. I love that it's such a big convertible. The Spider, I'm actually not sure. I think it's on static suspension. It's got a front lift on it, I believe. But a lot of these cars are on airbags. But people that have airbags or install shops that install a lot of airbags or, or static suspension on cars, they always say that airbags are kind of a pain in the butt and they never are as good as you would want them to be.

[A]

Doesn't work very well on my Hummer.

[D]

Ryan knows firsthand. Such a beautiful car. I'd give this a 9.5.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

I love that car.

[C]

I gotta stay with 10.

[D]

All right, the next one, shaking it up a little bit here. Whistle and Diesel's 2022AMG G63, otherwise known as a G wagon. This thing, it's got bigger turbos on it, pushing 1,000 horsepower, Akrapovic exhaust, lift kit and 33 inch tires.

[B]

I'd give this one a 9.5.

[C]

Dude, I hate to say it, but 10.

[D]

I love it.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah, I like that a lot because this is the coolest G wagon I've ever seen.

[D]

This is more of like a more Of a stock car. You know, obviously it's got the little cosmetic changes to it and it's faster, but overall you're going to look at it and it mostly looks stock.

[C]

I think it's beautiful.

[D]

Ryan.

[A]

Well, it's sweet because he modified it, but it still works like he's jumping it right there. Like you could have went and you could have modified it either lower or put such a big lift on it that it becomes unfunctional. So where he nailed it was it's fast AF and it sounds pretty solid but yet you can do stuff like that with it. So I mean, yeah, I, I'd give it like in the nines.

[D]

It really is a great looking car. And I think the coolest part about it is that he really showed how capable it is.

[A]

My only beef is the exhaust sounds kind of tinny, which I know people are eh on, But I think it.

[D]

It just for a nine, $9,000 exhaust.

[A]

Exactly. I would have expected to, but it's loud and it's sweet.

[B]

I guess what I find most interesting is that after he uploaded this video, I like G wagons. But then a video of whistle and diesel basically destroying this thing made me like them 10 times more. I went, wow. I mean obviously tested it and showed what, what it can do. But I was like, I want one.

[C]

That'S a nice ass car and it's.

[A]

Badass what it can do.

[B]

I mean the suspension, I don't even know. It's got to weigh a bunch. Whatever. Whoever built the suspension for that deserves an award.

[C]

I feel like it's hard to have a luxury vehicle that's a luxury like bougie vehicle, but it's still badass in my opinion. And that's because of like maybe the red, but also just the overall look of it. It's just a badass vehicle. I like it a lot.

[D]

$300,000 vehicle and that's obviously with dealer markup and I think he bought it in the worst possible time. But that is a lot of money for basically a glorified jeep. But as he proved, it's a lot. It's a lot better than a jeep. I just want to play the clip of him jumping it for anyone that hasn't seen it. God, that is such a 91ft.

[C]

Imagine if you would have rolled that thing, dude.

[B]

No one there that day was expecting to see that much of a boot. Dude.

[A]

I have been to those sand dunes and I have tried to jump them. Well, I have jumped them in a side by side with side by side bog and we probably went not even that far. And it was terrifying. So I can't imagine doing it in like an 8,000 pound car.

[E]

I think the thing about that video that really makes it stand out is 99% of people who own G wagons will never take that thing off the pavement. And he's just full sending it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it actually held up, which is cool.

[D]

All right. The next car is TJ Hunt's 2020 C8 Corvette. Twin turbo, 1500 horsepower, with a fully custom Street Hunter widebody kit, which is his own wide body kit. So the. The thing is like completely one of one insanely fast. And personally, I think it looks amazing. This is my favorite wide body kit on any of the C8s. What do you guys think? 1 out of 10?

[B]

9.9 for me.

[A]

I hope you picked uglier YouTuber cars because I feel like we're giving all these.

[C]

I'm giving this a seven, dude.

[D]

Okay, seven.

[C]

Maybe a seven and a half. Reason why I'm saying that I honestly don't think it looks like it with the widebody kit. The rear is too wide. Compared to the front. It looks too wide. It's not proportionate. And there's oftentimes where I see a wide body kit get thrown on a vehicle and it's just like too much like Stratman's look good. This is too wide, in my personal opinion. And I don't really like the wing either. Just kind of looks. Doesn't look right to me. I'd rather just have a factory one.

[A]

The thing I do like about it is it isn't a bolt on kit. You know, it doesn't have the bolts holding it on. I don't know how it's fastened. It probably has bolts.

[D]

But I like it from the backside.

[A]

Yeah, from.

[D]

You don't. You don't see the rivets.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Because I think. I think that's the one thing that can sometimes make body kits look cheesy, is it looks like they are bolted onto the outside of a car, which they are.

[D]

I agree that it does look a little bit cheaper. This one looks a little bit more factory.

[C]

When I saw it at sema, I thought it looked kind of homemade, personally. Really, I got nothing against D.J.

[B]

Hunt.

[C]

I'm just saying I thought it seemed kind of homemade. Like it just. It looks wonky to me.

[B]

I think one thing that it could maybe change. Let's say the rear fenders weren't as wide and this was a Z06. I know that would change a lot but the fenders are already wider on that. I think that would look tasteful, but I think it looks incredible. I. The color is like amazing for me, but still would change it. The wheels though, the silver, like three piece, whatever. Hre wheels, unreal. That's my favorite part of the car.

[A]

I love that silver wheels are coming back. My like dream is a black. Either matte black or just black car. And then get some really nice polished wheels. Kind of like Mike has on a Subaru, the same color.

[D]

We already kind of got that with your Homer Ryan.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah, kind of. But I mean, yeah, just I think that's such a cool look that went away for a while that I think now should come back.

[C]

I agree with that.

[D]

I think that TJ ran into a lot of problems with the twin turbo kit on this because the ECU is so hard to unlock or do anything.

[B]

Or actually maybe like a.

[D]

Maybe they didn't even unlock it. But it's so hard to do Anything with the C8 platform.

[C]

You want to know what's even crazier though is Amelia Hartford. She already twin turboed her. Her fucking Z06.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

How.

[D]

How does it work?

[C]

They don't have a tune yet, but she slapped them on, started it up, revved it. I was like, mind blowing that. That'll be a crazy car. A Z06C8 twin turbo.

[B]

Unreal.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it sounds like a Ferrari. Yeah, a twin turbo Ferrari. But yeah.

[D]

The only turn off to this car is it's now for sale and it is for sale for $250,000 for a Corvette.

[C]

That's not even a Z06.

[D]

It's a lot of money. No way. A lot of money.

[C]

No one's going to buy that for 250.

[D]

Yeah. I don't know somebody who's maybe a big TJ fan and watch the whole build.

[A]

I've thought about that and I've always wondered like, do people buy people's cars because of whose they were? God knows they are not buying mine because of I owned it. But, you know, do you want a car? You're like, oh, T.J. hunt owned that. That's really cool. Like, even if the Rock owned a car, I don't think it would make me pay a significant markup to be like, this is the Rock's car. Granted, he has some really cool cars and I love his.

[C]

I don't think anybody that has 250 grand to spend on a C8 Stingray Corvette is going to buy pay extra because a youtuber Such as TJ Hunt. Owned it prior.

[A]

Also the Rock.

[C]

Maybe that's cooler. That's a lot cooler. Or like a music artist. But I don't think anybody that's got money like that gives a fuck of a YouTuber. Owned it prior.

[A]

Also, do you think anybody with that type of money is buying a car like that? Like that looks like what a 20 year old would.

[B]

So it would sign a car.

[A]

And I still think it looks good, but I think like it looks like Stradman's Ventador.

[C]

Yeah, it's a vendor I think looks better proportionate. But I've already said that.

[D]

So would you rather have this or a Z06 at the same price?

[A]

By far, 100% it had.

[B]

It's a stock Z06. Yeah, probably that.

[D]

Yeah, I would go with that too.

[B]

Really? You get to.

[D]

Yeah. You drive that way cooler.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's stock Z06.

[B]

Yeah. And keep in mind 1500 horse.

[A]

Yeah, I did kind of forget about that when I said the Z06. But still, I still think I'd take a Z06 with the different motor. If it was the standard Z06 upgrade where they just supercharged the current engine, it would be closer.

[D]

Gotcha. I'd give this thing eight, eight. And the only reason I would give it anything more if it was red.

[B]

I like red.

[D]

Obviously because I had a red C8. But if it was a red one, I'd probably give it a nine.

[C]

Five.

[D]

All right. Last one. Had to throw into the mix one of our own vehicles. So I did our SEMA truck. It's a 2019 F350 built by Banker at Custom Offsets specifically for SEMA as a SEMA build. It's on 26 inch rims with 40 inch tires around them, 8 inch coilover lift kit, custom front and rear bumper powder coated and paint matched. Pretty much everything underneath it. It's deleted 5% all around. Allegedly. And of course train horns. Oh, and the drop hitch. Pretty amazing.

[B]

I got to give this thing a 9.5. I really love this truck. It's not perfect, but it is everything you could ask for out of a show lifted truck. And my favorite colors to black and red.

[C]

Yeah, I think I'd have to give it like a 9 actually. Maybe a little higher, I don't know. But it's tough. I wouldn't give it a perfect 10 just because it's not a limited or a platinum. But I think it is. I mean it doesn't really get any better in my personal opinion when it comes to lifting up, you know, big lifted trucks.

[B]

Bigger isn't all.

[C]

They're all relatively the same after a certain point. Rides like not that great, but drives really good. Just rides rough. Probably time to send it down the road soon. Sooner rather than later.

[D]

Ryan.

[A]

I. Yeah, I think it's the perfect mix of like how overstated and loud it is, but yet it's still not ridiculous. Like it doesn't have pinstriping all over it. It's not like a weird color. The black and red is a really nice accent, especially with all the red underneath. I think there's actually spacers on those tires and I think if you took the spacers out and pulled the wheels in a little more, it would look a little less. When you see it down the road, it's got like this really big like it looks like you put a smaller truck on top of it because the wheels are so far out. I think it would look a little more proportional from the back or the front.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And I think it would also make it not a walking by or driving violation constantly. It would help in that truck. Really surprised me because I did not like it from the start, but I came around to it.

[D]

How about knowing how it drives? What do you guys think about like the driving?

[B]

I don't mind that. You don't mind it at all.

[A]

I don't mind it either.

[C]

I don't. I don't mind the drive. I just don't like how rough it is. Like it starts to get a little bit jarring after a while. At least for me.

[E]

I hate how it drives. I absolutely hate.

[C]

It doesn't drive itself. Ken. That's probably.

[E]

I don't like how loose the front end is. Like it feels like I'm driving a 20 year old truck. It's not what I like.

[A]

As a guy who drives a 20 year old vehicle. That thing seems pretty. Pretty in line.

[B]

Yeah. It's like it's your outlook coming into it. Because I know it has two steering stabilizers on the front. Like what more can you really do? I'm sure there's a little bit more. But like for. For how it is and how it's set up, I mean it's all pulled out, all the stops for it. So I think it drives okay.

[D]

I think. Looks wise. Incredible. One of my favorite looking trucks. Even seeing all the ones at sema, I think this one is well sized where you can actually still drive it. Everything. Not a single expense was spared on the vehicle. Which is the coolest part about a company like custom offsets they got the budget to ball out on it and to make the content. And I'm sure they got a bunch of things for free. So not a single corner was cut, which is really nice because we looked at a couple other big SEMA trucks, big lifted trucks before we bought this one. And like you can tell like people that build it try and just maybe cheap out on certain things that they probably shouldn't. Where banker building it was just like, fuck it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

140 grand I think is what he said was into this truck.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

So you can tell it's, it's really high quality. But with that being said, I just personally do not like anything about the truck for usability wise. It just sucks if you actually want to drive it. And you guys must think something else or maybe I've just driven it more than you guys. But like you can't drive it in a city. You can't like parallel park this thing anywhere. You can barely drive it down the road without worrying about running somebody over. Every single time that I drove it, I got tickets up the wazoo. I think I had like 15 violations just throughout like a three month span of it getting pulled over three times. Five violations each time. I don't know, I guess I'm just not that into like massive trucks.

[C]

I think you just got the tickets.

[D]

And then you just didn't like it. It definitely tainted my thoughts on it.

[A]

I. For me, it's just like, it's kind of what you're driving. It's almost like driving our Ram. Our Ram is inconvenient to drive comparatively to your Raptors. Like those, the Raptor you whip right in any parking spot, stuff like that. You go drive around, you'd be like, holy, this thing's huge. I have to do five point turn. Like diesel trucks are difficult to drive. And I just understand that one as to be a more difficult truck to drive. You know, you're not getting the close spot spot at Walmart. You're gonna have to park at the end where nobody is on either side of you because the tires take up the whole parking spot. You know, like, it's just kind of part of it. And I think that it doesn't suck driving. So that's what makes up for it.

[D]

It is completely part of it. And I realize that it's just not really worth it for you. Yeah, yeah. And. And we don't even use it really anymore.

[A]

I would take it to town. I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna take the SEMA truck to town. I'm going to go run errands in it. But I'm so nervous about getting pulled over. Like, I. It's not worth it to me to get a $500 set of tickets just for driving that instead of one of our other legal trucks.

[C]

That's kind of where it's at.

[D]

It is a work of art, but sometimes works of art need to just stay on the wall.

[B]

I don't know. I just. I really don't think we should actually hang it on the wall. I know you were talking about that.

[D]

But we hang it on the wall just like the shifter cart.

[A]

One hook.

[D]

Hang it by one hook. I would actually probably do that if you guys gave me the okay with. Now this truck is going to go to the grave. Like most of the other vehicles in our possession, we're like, all right, let's destroy it or do something like that. I would actually be okay with the company taking the hit for all the money into it if that was where the truck was going to end up on the wall. No hot take, but, like, we just run that thing into the ground.

[B]

How.

[A]

How, though?

[D]

I don't know. Just, like, doing reckless shit with it.

[A]

I don't do it, unfortunately. It's just like whistling Diesel. He wrecked that platinum. You can't wreck a truck now without being.

[D]

No. And I don't think we. I don't think. I think we should ever should because obviously he's done that. But, like, you're just.

[B]

You'd have a good time.

[D]

I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have any. Any remorse doing it to that vehicle is what I'm saying.

[A]

Got it. Eight, five years ago, you could get a Lambo drive in the snow title. Lambo driving in the snow. 5 million views blows up. You do that. Now, people, like, even people that watch your videos wouldn't click on because they're like, great. Another guy driving a Lambo. Been done before.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's what he's now done.

[D]

To destruction.

[A]

Destruction. Senseless destruction. But there's obviously always a reason.

[D]

I think with that being said, though, we have been throwing around the idea after I just got done talking it. It's a great truck. You want to buy it? We are gonna.

[B]

Well, I mean, you were outnumbered as far as people that like it.

[A]

As long as you don't have a lot of state troopers in your area, you'll be fine. Or if you're not in Minnesota, you're literally golden.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that Ben would like the truck a ton if he just didn't get pulled over the two, three times in it. If you would have never gotten pulled over, you would love it.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[C]

You just, like, are, like, terrified of getting pulled over.

[D]

Well, bro, you know how many equipment violations that I have on my record because of that truck?

[A]

15. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like, as far as, like, you won't even tint your raptors because you. You took your exhaust off your Corvette. You just are, like, scared. You didn't put an exhaust on the WRX because of it. And I understand, like, you seem to keep getting pulled over, but, like, I don't know, it just seems to me like you would have really liked the truck if you would have just never gotten pulled over in it. You would never say a bad thing about. You'd be like, this truck is awesome.

[D]

Maybe. Probably not, though, because.

[C]

Because you change as soon as you got pulled over.

[D]

Things still super, like, inconvenient.

[C]

Yeah, no, 100%. I'm just saying that's where most of your disdain for it is, because of the getting pulled over. And I think that you are. Out of everyone, you're the most scared by 10 times of getting pulled over.

[D]

Yeah, I don't like being pulled over.

[C]

Well, yeah, I know, but, like, you're, like, scared of it.

[D]

I don't know. Yeah, I definitely just have a terrible record, and I just don't want it to keep getting worse.

[C]

As long as you don't got nothing in the car you shouldn't have, which I don't know why you ever would. They just give you the ticket and you fucking move on.

[A]

You do kind of get a little tweaked out about getting pulled over.

[C]

Yeah, he's really scared of getting tickets.

[D]

I just get so many of them. I'm just sick of them.

[A]

I mean, understandable, but it's just a ticket, I guess.

[C]

Just.

[D]

It's not problem.

[C]

They're not going to take you to jail as long as you're not doing anything you shouldn't be doing.

[D]

Well, that was with my Corvette. I was. They said next time I get pulled over, they're going to impound my car for his exhaust.

[A]

For exhaust, yeah. In the state of Minnesota. I guess that's what I mean. I feel. I didn't. I feel like going to get impounded for the headlights or something.

[C]

I think it's.

[D]

I think it's more along the lines of me. I think I'm the problem in there.

[C]

You drive the slowest of all of us.

[A]

That's what I mean.

[D]

You know, you're driving.

[A]

You are Always getting pulled over doing legal things, but it's for some weird thing, like getting pulled over for not turning off your high beams early enough in your Lambo. And then all of a sudden, you're.

[C]

Going to get this thing towed.

[A]

Yeah. Then it's. Then it's like, oh, I got to disconnect every aftermarket thing, and I'm going to untint the windows that are this big in the front.

[D]

And, like, there's certain things that just aren't worth, like, the fight and the headache.

[C]

No, I. I agree. Like, if I kept getting, you know, whatever like that. That, you know, you got to change it if they're gonna keep writing you tickets for it. But, like, you just are, like, scared.

[D]

It seems like any little thing that I push the boundaries on, then I immediately get, like, in trouble for. And then they threaten to tow my. My car, and I'm like, well, I. I don't give a if my window tin is 5% more or less like.

[A]

Or 0 or 100 less, because you didn't have any.

[B]

I guess, Ben, you are the only one to get threatened.

[C]

Yeah, it's true. I guess that's threatened.

[A]

On getting tickets, though. I remember getting a lot of them when I was younger, and it was literally like, you know, they were 200 tickets, and I was like, if I get any more of these, like, this is. My whole week's paycheck is gone now to this ticket. And, like, this really sucks. And that's where. When I took all my tint off, where I sold the car with the tin, I was like, I can't. I can literally not afford to spend my entire week's pay on a ticket because of window tint. You know, like, there is points like that where it's really bullshit, and I think it's messed up if I got.

[C]

Pulled over going over 100, which I don't go over 100, but if I was going over 100, I'd be fucking scared.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'd be like, I did something wrong here, whatever. But, like, if I'm just cruising and they whip around, get me for window tin, I'm not really scared. I'm just like, all right, well, here we go again. Pay the ticket. Get on.

[B]

All right, I gotta. I got a story.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. So speaking of scams, Ryan kind of started this podcast. I was scams. I will make this brief because it's kind of a long winded story, but I. I ordered if you guys know what a surron is. It's like an E bike. It's a dirt bike. That kind of big wave coming through of surrounds and, like, telerias. So I didn't want to buy a surron from, like, a dealer. They're like 4,500 bucks. You know, they get them shipped over from China, but probably a bunch of them, and I didn't want to spend that much, so I was like, I'll just go on alibaba, which I'm somewhat familiar with. And I. There's a whole bunch of vendors, and I picked one, and I was like, I just want to buy one. And then if the one is good, comes to my door and it checks out and it's real, then I'll buy, like, five or six more for the whole crew.

[A]

So they're advertising them as real surrounds, not an Alibaba version of a surron, like, not a knockoff. They're advertising as real.

[B]

Yep. And I had made that very clear in the. In the messages. I was like, just making sure this is real. I want it to be real, because I've heard of people getting not real ones, and nobody wants to pay half price for a not real one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I got it going, and I, like, tried to have all my checks and just made sure it was real, Made sure the battery was authentic Panasonic. And then they said two grand for the bike, 500 for shipping. Shipping is 10 days. Oh, man, 10 days. That's awesome.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Wire them the money, they ship it. Okay, cool. And then after about a month, I'm like, hey. And they're like, you got to check with the shipping company. It's in customs in Mexico.

[A]

Mexico now.

[B]

So went from, like, it went from China to Mexico. I'm like, why didn't it just go to a port in the United States? So you don't want your stuff to be in customs in Mexico because they can do whatever they want. And so that's kind of where it started. I was like, well, why is this not shipping? And they're like, you need to pay customs. Okay, that makes sense. So I hit them up, and they're like, yeah, here's. And it's like, fee, fee, fee, fee, charge, charge, charge, charge, charge to 990 bucks to clear it from Customs. Nine.

[C]

Nine.

[B]

Man. I just paid 500 bucks to ship this thing on top of the two grand. So I'm already 3,500 in if I decide to pay this. I'm just still trying to feel this out. Okay, you can cash app or Venmo.

[A]

And so now they're taking you out of Like a legit.

[B]

Still wired it if I wanted, but I didn't want.

[A]

So it's not through Alibaba or anything like that.

[B]

This is a shipping company now. And so I still toyed with the idea for a while and messaged the vendor back and forth. I'm just like, I think if I just pay this customs charge, they'll send it. And then I paid this Venmo to just like a random dude. And. Yeah, and then. Okay, then they were like, sweet. Send the receipt. I did. And then they were like, cool. Now do you want to pay the customs charge for the other 10?

[A]

You're like, other 10?

[B]

And I'm like, what? And they're like, yeah, 9900 for the other 10. There's 11 total in the shipment. And I'm like, What?

[A]

I ordered one.

[B]

I ordered one. Can you just ship it? No, this shipment has 11. So if you want to pay customs for the rest, then we'll ship it.

[A]

But do you want to it. Could you just be like, no, I just want my one bike then?

[B]

That's what I said. And then they were like, okay, well, the shipments 11, so. So you have to still back and try to them on that. And then I'm like, why? Why is there 11? 11 surrons. I wanted one. So I go to the vendor and I'm just like, hey, why there? Why is there 11? And they're like, oh, well, we normally don't just ship one. We normally, like. I could read the messages, but essentially what they said, we don't Normally just ship one. We usually ship 11.

[C]

What?

[B]

Okay.

[D]

To who, though?

[B]

And that's what I'm like, because why.

[D]

They should pay 11 to.

[B]

Yeah, they're like, we usually only do bulk shipment.

[C]

You sure you're not getting hustled?

[B]

No, I'm not sure at all. That's the whole point of this.

[D]

All right, so if you pay the. The shipping, then for the other 10, do you get them for free? Probably they ship. Are they shipping 11 to you then.

[B]

Or are you just.

[D]

Are you just releasing? Right, that's the one. And then they're like, sweet, thanks for paying for all of them.

[C]

You lost me at Venmoing for the customs. That ain't coming.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's where I usually.

[D]

I don't know if that's a normal. No, you're. You're a normal, Ken.

[C]

Like when you're venmoing for customs. Yes, that shit ain't coming.

[B]

That's what I mean. They gave me, like, their wire information But I just didn't want to call my bank and start a whole wire. And since it was under a thousand dollars, I just did on Venmo.

[A]

But yeah, was the wire. Can you Venmo. Like, was it the shipping company or was it like, I've. I've made customs payment for us when we have stuff come across. And it will be like two United States customs. Like it's a payment to them. It's not even going.

[B]

Not that.

[A]

Okay, so it's, it's a payment to Joe Schmo.

[B]

Yeah, pretty much.

[E]

So you've been Pedro in Mexico and.

[B]

And nothing's happening.

[E]

Okay, so you, you wired, you Venmoed the mob? Basically, yeah.

[B]

And that's. So that is where I lose most people with it because that is where I fucked up. However, then that's why it got juicier. So it could just be like, yeah, I got scammed. I literally, like, so stupid. Like, I'm not getting my bike. But then they interject this 11 and so I asked the shipping company to send me a picture of it. And they're like, normally we don't send pictures of our shipment, but they sent me some grainy ass picture of a bunch of suron boxes. That's it. That's all I got. I asked for more. That's all I got. So I'm like, okay, if I release this, will they all be shipped to my house? And they're like, yeah, it's like, this is your shipment. Okay. And then I was like, well, if these end up at my house or at the shop, they're mine. But I still can't take a risk on they. They came up with like $7,500 to release it all. I'm not going to take that risk. However, then the vendor says, pay the customs charges, the bikes will get to you, and then we'll negotiate a price, a discounted price for the bikes.

[A]

And I'm like, what do you mean? I'd be like, yeah, the negotiation is now they are mine.

[D]

Yeah, no kidding. That'd be us. That'd be like us sending somebody five shirts. And then as soon as they get them, being like, sweet. You gonna pay for the other four then?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much.

[A]

And whack.

[B]

Exactly like that. And then they'd be like, well, I just ordered the one. And they were like, well, you probably order more later though.

[A]

So you paid for the shipping on all of them? That makes like no sense.

[B]

So I don't know anything.

[D]

I am, I don't know.

[C]

Are you paying for this with your own money or company money?

[B]

You take a guess.

[C]

Company money. No, thank God.

[B]

You guessed wrong.

[D]

My question really from the start is how are you buying knockoff Suron? But it's not a knockoff version.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's.

[D]

That's what I don't understand.

[B]

It's like it's not a knockoff. Yeah.

[D]

How do these. No, no, it's branded.

[B]

No, right, like, right, you're saying it's.

[D]

Like saying Siron on the box and all that. Yeah.

[B]

So basically Sirons are made in China.

[D]

Isn't Siron a like a company though?

[B]

Yeah, it's a Chinese company.

[D]

Oh, it's a Chinese company.

[B]

Yeah, like a Chinese.

[A]

But still it doesn't seem to me that like they would have a ton of extras laying around where you could just buy one from a different company that was not surron. I see.

[B]

I don't think there's just a Suron factory in China. That's where I'm.

[C]

I think what's going on is it's just like everything else with like Chinese products or most people's merch or like we could even use a tripod, for example. They all get made in the same place. And then yeah, you might be the company that initially, like, this is our thing, but they're making them in China. And then those, the like, vendor and those factories in China are not loyal to anybody. Like, like, let's say you wanted to make your own Ethica style underwear. Yeah. So we tried making our own Ethica style underwear one time and we talked to these people on Alibaba, whatever and they had pictures of Ethica and we sent, you know, to get a sample and they literally sent us Ethica underwear.

[D]

So you.

[B]

And they gave me get template and then they were like, don't tell that we're. That these are Ethica.

[A]

Yeah. And more than one company would say, yeah, we make ethical underwear.

[C]

Our beer bongs. Same exact as Full sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like is most of the stuff is made in China and it's all come from the same place or like it's just a different name on it. Especially with like shirts too. Like, obviously you can get some really shitty shirts, but like for the most part, like, like I'll be in shields and I'll see the same exact garment that we're printing our stuff on.

[A]

Yeah. What you get from a whole set.

[C]

Which means that we're using some good, good shit. But oftentimes I feel like everything's the same. Like you see People wearing that exact hat, just a different thing on it.

[D]

So what are you gonna do at this point?

[B]

Kind of just in limbo. I can't dump any more money into it. I don't think that'd be smart. I think we could all agree on that.

[C]

But how much is a Venmoing? I'm gonna, like, keep Venmoing. They'll send them.

[D]

Yeah. So how much is a Surron if you were to buy it? Like.

[B]

Like, if we were to. When we were in Washington, that dealership that they ordered a crate of them from China, I'd maybe have to talk to them more about how that is. But they were selling them. I think they said they'd sell them to us for four grand. So at this point, I'm only 500 off from that.

[C]

Can you get a refund?

[B]

No, I'm sure I can't get a refund.

[D]

You imagine, though, Mike gets this and he's like, holy shit, these are, like, legit. All of a sudden, he just becomes a surround dealer.

[B]

And that's what would happen if. If the one got to me and it was legit. I would take the other 10 and.

[D]

We was an opportunity for sure.

[C]

Yeah. Because then you selling them for, you know, a thousand bucks more or whatever the hell it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The missing variable in all this is that I don't know if they're legit also, but then there is still that. I don't know if they'd even come to my door if I paid that charge, but if they weren't legit and I had 11 of them, I'd be like. Like, this is so stupid.

[C]

I really wouldn't be surprised, though, if it shows up. And it's just a Surron that doesn't have Surron branded on it.

[B]

But, yeah, so we'll see. I'm just going to keep pushing to get the one. Lots of people have been asking us to ride them on the channel, and so if this all blows over and just turns to nothing, then I guess we'll just have to buy some at full price.

[C]

But I don't know if I'd ever be able to ride it. Let me see the fucking electric.

[B]

Dude.

[C]

Bikes and me, they don't go together.

[D]

No, that would not be good. I'd fucking. Mike. Let me see the Venmo. I want to see what.

[B]

That's pretty funny.

[A]

Yeah. So your transactions, the first transaction, was that made through Alibaba?

[B]

That was a wire transfer. Have all the receipts, but if it's not through Alibaba, if the invoice is not paid through Alibaba, which they usually try not to do, it's not protected.

[A]

Yeah, that's why, like, people always try to get me into WhatsApp and all this other stuff, but then you're not protected. So there is a slight little bit of protection doing it through the app.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

His name's Jason Lawrence, and it's just a big Mexican dude in a tuxedo.

[D]

No.

[C]

At least he's wearing tuxedo. He's got class, and I love that picture.

[A]

Looks like he's like, okay, Jason.

[D]

Wait, Mike, why did you Venmo him and say, who the hell is Jason Lawrence?

[B]

That was my memo. I just said, who the hell is Jason Lawrence?

[D]

All right, so Jason Lawrence, who received the Venmo for $990 from Micah. Here are his last Venmo transactions. Cindy Lawrence paid him for breakfast.

[B]

I haven't even.

[D]

On October 9th.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Cindy Lawrence paid him for prescription meds on September 30th. Cindy Lawrence also paid him September 28th for groceries.

[C]

You ain't getting that money back.

[D]

Car tags, new kitty supplies, pet supplies and food, dinner, Disney. Chores, chores, chores. I'm sure he.

[C]

I'm sure his Venmo hooks up with Customs. Yeah.

[A]

He fucking asked Siri and goes, what do people do on Venmo, dude?

[B]

I think, yeah. No, I'm definitely not getting the money back. But, like, I guess at the end of the day, it's still up to the shipping company because they took.

[A]

There is no shipping company. It's Jason Lawrence, who is a fucking idiot.

[C]

He got scammed.

[D]

Hold up, Mike. Who did you pay the original $2,000 to?

[B]

To Hearsale.in which is the vendor of the Suron. Okay.

[A]

Hearsale.in they all have weird names, so that's fine.

[D]

Yeah, we should get Coffeezilla involved in this one. Have we ever had any of our shipments be held in customs in Mexico?

[A]

No, they always go direct to the U.S. right, because. And when you get the message, it's like it is stamped like US Customs and Border Patrol. Like, it's a legit document that you fill in all the stuff from the company there. Your company here. Like, it's a pretty legit transaction. My concern. I mean, I feel bad that you lost the 900 bucks to Jason Lawrence, but I hope that you can get the 2500 that you paid to hear Sail Inc. Back. I hope there's enough, you know, data there that you're able to retract that wire.

[B]

Yeah. At this point, that would be great.

[A]

Because, I mean, otherwise, that's a. That's a $3,500 thing. That's a suron.

[D]

So, Mike, what did Jason Lawrence say to convince you to just Venmo him a thousand bucks?

[B]

I have actually never spoken with Jason Lawrence.

[D]

What was the. The transaction or what was like the communication between you and somebody that was like, yes, you just venmoed Jason Lawrence. 990 bucks.

[A]

He'll take care of it.

[B]

It was basically me just asking if I can pay through Venmo because they said cash app. I'm like, well, I don't use. No one uses cash App, dude.

[A]

You know, they were sitting in some stoked. They were sitting somewhere and they go, this guy's dumber than we thought. And they high fived. Yes, quick, go make a Venmo. I'll be Cindy, you be whatever the other guy.

[C]

I don't think it matters whether it.

[D]

Is real Venmo or not.

[A]

That's what I mean. It is.

[E]

So I did just. Look, it is impossible to cancel or retract a wire fund once the funds have left your account.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I was like, I already knew that. Like, that's pretty cut and dry information.

[D]

Well, Mike, if it makes you feel any better, I lost 2,500 bucks in Vegas, and you lost just a little bit more than that on a surround.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So life kicks you in the nuts sometimes.

[A]

Next time you should just drive down Main Street DL and start throwing hundred dollar bills out the window.

[B]

I feel like.

[D]

Yeah. At least go to some good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Possibly the.

[B]

Down the drain.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, honestly. Yeah. You could. You could literally light those dollar bills on fire and at least you would get a little bit of heat out of it, you know?

[B]

Yeah, that's true, but there's no. I mean, come on, guys, this is still a little bit of a gamble here.

[D]

Mike, I'm really rooting for you. Honestly, I am.

[A]

I am too. For sure.

[D]

It's gonna be a great story if they do show up one day. If we show up to the shop and there's 11 boxes out front and Mike is just sitting there laughing. Dude, he's gonna be cashing in on all his surrons hand up.

[A]

If that happens. I'm an idiot. Yeah, Micah was right.

[B]

But as of right now, it is.

[A]

It is not looking so hot for you right now. And I. I feel bad. I'm. I'm trying to make an interesting conversation for the podcast, but I feel bad, but I feel like there was some red flags.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

That's.

[B]

I was proceeding too quickly.

[A]

Mm.

[D]

And you're just doing the work of the people, bro.

[B]

Getting scammed.

[D]

Mike, what's that thing around your neck here?

[B]

Dude, I put the necklace on for the pod. That's pretty ball lightning bolt. Also one of my favorite things, if you guys haven't noticed. I put lightning bolts on, like, what, every.

[C]

Okay. I do like the lightning bolt. I feel like it fits the brand. But when I look at you and just being that I know you, I can't say I would pick your emblem to be a lightning bolt.

[B]

Speed.

[A]

It kind of looks like.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Speed.

[A]

It looks like you're a Running Strikes quick.

[C]

Strikes fast.

[B]

That's such a running back.

[A]

That's like a running back. I mean, it kind of looks like a chargers or. Yeah, chargers logo, but when I saw you wearing that, I was like, it looks like you're like a D3 off brand running back.

[D]

What is it?

[C]

I feel like I would pick your logo to be a moon.

[B]

A moon?

[D]

Yeah, you know, is it diamonds? Up at night? What's on it? Let me see. Up all night.

[A]

Up all night bike.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, they're not real, but.

[D]

Yeah, backwards. CJ, where'd you get it?

[B]

They're not real GLD. It was, like, 150 bucks.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the G. Like, the one that everyone gets Instagram ads for.

[D]

It's pretty. I have always wondered what the, like, the quality of it seems products are.

[B]

I think, like, the quality is there, but, like, nothing's real.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know.

[A]

You know how CJ's got his little ATM side business. My new side business is going to be making Alibaba shipping sites and just advertising just things that Maika wants.

[C]

And then maybe Jason Lawrence.

[B]

And there. There's just, like, a steady decrease in, like, my cash flow and a majorly steady increase in Ryan's. I start driving Lambo, I start driving Ranger.

[D]

The problem with those, like, the Shop.

[C]

Gld, I think it's cool. I like it. But, like, it's very. To me at least I can tell it's, like, fake just from looking, you know? And, like, I've been me.

[B]

You always know it's fake.

[E]

Right.

[C]

But, like, I've also, like, been in bars and stuff, and. And some of you, like, I've just seen people and I can tell when they're wearing the Shop GLD chain.

[A]

And I think for some things, it's fine. It does its purpose. Like, almost. That chain without the lighting bolt is just fine to be a fake chain. You don't need to go to Tiffany and Company and spend $15,000 on that chain. Get the. Get the 80 chain. Totally fine. But sometimes when you get bigger jewelry.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're trying to make it look like a flex.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Then I.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I don't have to do an accent piece. Just fine. But if you're, like, trying to be.

[D]

Really styled out, I don't think there's.

[C]

Anything wrong with having fake jewelry. I'm just saying it's, like, obviously fake, at least to me. So, like, if you were somebody who's like, I'm gonna go to shop gld, wear this chain around and try to, like, flex on people, it ain't gonna work, in my opinion.

[A]

There goes that sponsor. Yeah.

[D]

Me and C.J. went into a jewelry store just to see what they had. And CJ puts on one of these Cuban link necklaces. Yeah. Kind of looked like a bulldog in it. It was like a smaller one. It was pretty cool. And he goes, how much is this guy? Goes, that one's 55. He's 5,500. No, 55,000.

[C]

Yeah. Each other.

[D]

And he's like, I might just take this off. I don't know what he was thinking, letting me just try it on that easily.

[C]

Do we look like. We look like a couple of idiot goons walking in there? Yeah. I legit thought it was 10k max.

[D]

And that I was not. I was not expecting it to be 50. I figured it was going to be expensive, but not 55.

[C]

I think that was not worth 55. And it was pretty small, too.

[D]

It, like, wasn't even one that.

[C]

So that's what really gets me thinking. Ever since that moment, whenever I see, like, Jake Paul or rappers or whoever with these big. These big diamond chains, assuming that they are real, how much? They've got to have a hundred racks in those things, if not more.

[A]

How about Justin Jefferson, since we got him up there?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like those chains.

[A]

He's wearing them during the game.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That's such a flex.

[C]

And so I'm pretty sure his teeth are.

[D]

Yeah, he, like.

[C]

His grills are, like, 200 grand.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

And he plays with them in.

[D]

So what's up with that?

[C]

Because, like, if they have grills in, that counts as a mouthpiece, too, does it?

[A]

Actually, no.

[B]

I think he still wears a mouthguard for that.

[A]

I know somebody asked me, like, why would he play in that? And I was like, this is his TV moment. Like, this is when he's on TV's mud. This is when he should be wearing it.

[C]

I think he's cooler because of it.

[D]

Yeah, because it works. Because Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver in the NFL and it's pretty cool that he's wearing grills and chains and. And like, I don't know. He's got this look to him. Right. But it wouldn't be that cool. Yeah, but it wouldn't be that cool if he wasn't making catches and. And making plays. There is a lot of guys that.

[C]

That wear chains though, and grills. I remember Marshawn lynch played with a.

[A]

Grilling, but also was really good.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

$200,000 for his grills.

[C]

And is that wears like three chains too. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's. Wow. I feel like if you got hit and like or your things rubbing, wouldn't diamonds fall out of that?

[C]

I'm sure that thing's got to be built.

[D]

Well.

[C]

Diamonds are tough, dude. They're like one of the toughest. That's true.

[B]

You know, but the only as tough is how well they're held in there.

[C]

But that's true.

[B]

Assuming they're well made.

[D]

When did the NFL pass that you could wear jewelry? I don't know. I think it's got five years ago because I remember Odell Beckham Jr. Was wearing a Richard Millie watch for a game and he got fined like $50,000 for wearing a watch. It's a watch.

[C]

$250,000 watch.

[D]

All right, Ryan, I know this is going to trigger you.

[A]

Oh, great.

[D]

Okay, so here we come.

[C]

Here comes intro.

[D]

Dude, I don't think it's out of the question. The bikes win the super bowl, bro. They're the luckiest team in the NFL. They have won eight games this season by coming back and winning on the last drive of the game.

[C]

They're the most entertaining team for.

[D]

You're telling me that a Super bowl is out of the question?

[C]

It's like a movie, dude.

[D]

Go ahead, Ryan.

[C]

Sorry.

[D]

Say it.

[A]

I.

[C]

Say it, dream buster.

[B]

Say it.

[D]

Ruin my hopes and dreams, bro.

[A]

I like the Vikings. Just one time we beat a team, we beat a team like three weeks ago. And you're like, oh yeah, they suck. And I was like, no, actually they had a lot of hurt players and we barely beat them. It's gonna be interesting to see how they play in the playoffs, which might come true. Well, okay. What did I say?

[E]

I don't.

[D]

I hate the Vikings. Justin Jefferson sucks. Kirk Cousins can kiss my ass and I hope Adam Thielen falls down the stairs.

[A]

I never said any of those things. And actually I first before any of you guys got into it, said on this very podcast, I said, vikings year, super bowl bound. Let's go, baby. School bikes.

[D]

I don't remember that.

[A]

Yep, I did. I can pull it up. It's in one of the other ones I've got in my group chat. I text it every time they want. I got receipts, dude.

[D]

Straight up, though, like, the Vikes have just been basically disappointing us since we were born, right?

[A]

I think since they were.

[D]

Ever since they were invented, they've been disappointed.

[A]

Soda.

[D]

What they've managed to do this season.

[A]

It'S been a hell of a turnaround.

[D]

It's been a hell of a turnaround. And like, I just. I trust them. All of a sudden, really, I'm like, dude, they're going to clinch this because they continue to do it.

[C]

It's like a movie every time. Like, like imagine the end of the movie. That's how they do every. It's just like a different way for the movie to end in this fantastic win, bro.

[D]

It's such a fairy tale story. Exactly.

[C]

Every time.

[D]

The super bowl isn't out of the question, bro. If anyone's going to do it, it's going to be the Vikes, bro.

[A]

I love your enthusiasm.

[C]

I do.

[D]

Going to have it. If.

[B]

If the Vikes win the Super Bowl, I will cry. If the Vikings. I don't cry much, but I will actually cry.

[C]

That will buy two Rolexes, one for each wrist.

[D]

Hey, if the Vikes. If the Vikes win the super bowl or go to the super bowl, though, we. We gotta go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, where is it?

[C]

I don't think we'll be able to get there, dude. They already sold tickets, I believe.

[D]

Let's just figure it out, bro.

[B]

I mean, tell them we're influencers.

[C]

Oh, great. Yeah.

[D]

We got influencers.

[B]

We're like, I think they're gonna film the game.

[E]

I hate to crush hopes and dreams, but I inquired about super bowl tickets. It's in Phoenix.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

The cheapest seats. The highest nosebleed you can get is $10,000.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like in its thousands of night for a hotel.

[D]

Let's just up Ryan's podcast brand deals. I'm just saying, if it does happen, we got to figure out a way to go.

[A]

I agree and I'm with you and I'm positive on the Vikings. I love them, but this is not uncharted territory. We have been here before. I'm just being realistic.

[D]

Here it goes. Here goes. No, but don't let me get in Your way.

[A]

Right. What I do want to say is. And I've.

[C]

He's way smarter than you.

[B]

It's so hard. You're too stupid to talk to.

[C]

No, that's what he's trying to tell you.

[A]

And now the new coach is really, really damn good. And if there's anything about the Vikings season team, the whole thing, obviously Kirk and Justin Jefferson are really good, but they've been there before. The new coach, it is amazing how much he has turned that program around. And every week when they win, which has been a lot lately, they post the video of his locker room speech, and you can tell that the players respect him. He loves and respects the players, and, like, his energy and drive for that team has completely turned it around. And that's the most extraordinary thing I think about it. Whether they win because they got lucky or because they played well or whatever, I. That coach is amazing.

[D]

I think the biggest thing, the reason that they can just continue to get these dubs is like, the whole team seems to just like, just continue to stay positive.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And like, that sounds so cliche to say, but when they do, like, the mic'd up Adam Thielen or like, miked up any of the athletes, like when they were down 0 to 33 at halftime, they're still just like, hey, we're going to turn it around. We're going to turn around. If anyone's going to do, it's going to be us. And, like, you just continue to see, like, those little bits inside.

[C]

Pretty cool. Yeah.

[D]

They have, like, a certain chemistry that is clearly special and makes them able to pull these things off. They're.

[B]

They're playing like they don't know what quarter it is. Like, it's. That's what it always seems like. Like, that can mean sucking and doing.

[D]

Good, too, but I don't know, man.

[C]

I just think attitude is everything with, like, literally with everything you do in life, it all just comes down to your attitude.

[A]

Yeah. When you go into it and that that team has shown it because God damn, has it been a season. I think it's been harder that they're winning because before you just go, ah, the Vikings, they suck. And then you turned off the game, but now until the last minute of the game or in overtime, you're sitting there on the edge of your seat, like, hoping they win. It's like, it's very enthralling.

[D]

Yeah, dude, it's straight up. Every game they play is like a movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Every game.

[C]

Most entertaining team in the league.

[D]

They gotta be, bro. Everyone's gotta just be excited to watch the Vikes at this point because like, like, who knows what they're gonna do.

[A]

It is funny because every announcer every week, they've had their doubts about the team and all that. And after last week, too, they were just like, I don't know what to say. There's nothing more we can say about them. They have continued to prove themselves and they continue to win.

[D]

Running on hopes and dreams, baby. Yeah, dude.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

We could plug the year end recap since that's.

[E]

Oh, Micah.

[A]

It would have been two weeks, maybe just three weeks prior post.

[C]

Maybe just mention. Just when is this one taking a week?

[A]

January 10th.

[D]

Oh, this one isn't going for a while. Oh, fuck. I hope the Vikings are still good at this point.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, I didn't even think of that. Okay, all right. What's the date? All right, all right. December 27th is when we're filming this right now. So if the Vikings have managed to mess everything up and I look like a total idiot right now, they lose.

[A]

First round of the playoffs. No, I. I think they're gonna keep doing good and I'm. I'm excited for it. And when you guys are watching this, it'll seem real time. We ended up taking some time off to go off to Florida, which was really fun. Thanks for waiting and coming back and watching us every podcast every Tuesday for the foreseeable future.

[D]

I guess so. Damn. So this is the first podcast of the year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Number 60.

[D]

Oh, man, we didn't even really close out last year. Well, thanks for watching us last year and I hope you enjoy what you see this year.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you guys listening to the podcast as we continue to grow it. And the year end recap video from 2022 is on our main channel. So if you're looking for something to watch there, that has all the goodies from the whole year and it's pretty fun to watch. So give it a. Give it a look.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Good stuff. All right, thanks, guys.

[B]

Peace.

[E]

Mike, you sent me that tracking number for your surron. Yeah, they shipped it air, which I highly doubt they would ever ship a lithium battery via air.