CboysTV Takes an IQ Test

Summary

Podcast Summary: Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode Title: CboysTV Takes an IQ Test
Release Date: August 29, 2023
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Ken, Evan, and Mike

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Episode Overview

This lively episode centers around the CboysTV crew taking a MENSA IQ test live on the podcast, comparing their results, and reflecting on what intelligence really means in their lives and work. The conversation meanders from facial hair mishaps and social media stories to deeper discussions about success, community, and the impact of their YouTube channel. The crew maintains their classic banter, revealing insecurities, roasting each other, and sharing candid behind-the-scenes moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. Facial Hair Disasters, TikTok Trends, and Team Roasts

• [00:00–05:20]
  • Mike returns to the podcast freshly shaved, prompting a chain of roasts and self-deprecating jokes. The crew debates the impact of facial hair on appearance and confidence.
  • “Oh. Your neck and your chin almost look like the same thing.” — Ben [00:22]
  • Discussions about weird TikTok trends (like “Jawsersizer” and “suck on your tongue for a better jawline”) lead to more playful teasing.

2. Behind-the-Scenes Antics and Stunts

• [05:20–10:40]
  • Recounting a montage of recent stunts and mishaps: Ken throwing out the trash (“Ken yeeting the garbage all over the yard” [05:40]) and motorcycle fails.
  • Evan’s risky high-speed motorcycle rides spark debates about wearing helmets.
  • The crew stresses the importance of safety:
    • “The last thing we need is to be sweeping you off the PA because you thought you would look cooler without a helmet.” — Ben [08:25]

3. Concussions, Wellness and Shop Life

• [11:15–16:23]
  • Ken describes recovering from a concussion after a golf cart accident and shares his experience with a hyperbaric oxygen chamber.
  • Insights into the Cboys’ workplace: dusty merch rooms, air purifiers, and folding shirts (with named “dust bunnies”).

4. Taking the MENSA IQ Test (Main Segment)

• [16:23–24:25]
  • The group receives laptops to take the MENSA IQ test. Spectators are encouraged to guess the outcome.
  • Predictions: Most think Ryan or Ken will get the highest score, Mike the lowest.
  • Tension rises during the timed test, culminating in the surprise reveal of scores:
    • Mike: 110
    • Ken: 102
    • Evan: 100
    • Ryan: 97
    • Ben: 97
  • “You guys are so, so lucky that I don’t talk shit.” — Mike [20:35]
  • Self-doubt and reflection after the revelation; Mike enjoys an unexpected victory. Ryan and Ben, both with college degrees, get the lowest scores.

5. Breaking Down IQ, Intelligence, and Success

• [24:25–25:28]
  • The crew debates what IQ really means, and stress that intelligence is multifaceted and not a predictor of real-world achievement.
    • “You don't have to be smart at all to be considered successful, you know.” — Ken [24:09]
    • “Not at all. I mean, look at Lil Pump.” — Mike [25:21] (on success not correlating directly with IQ)

6. Trick Questions and Comic Relief

• [25:28–27:44]
  • Ben fires off classic IQ “trick questions” for comic relief; the crew redeems themselves and lightens the mood.

7. Story Time: Legendary Snapchat Prank

• [27:44–44:28]
  • The group reminisces about a chaotic early CboysTV moment: Jake posts an explicit photo on Ken’s Snapchat, Ken panics, and the aftermath becomes a beloved inside joke.
  • Infamous quote:
    • “Ben, you are literally too stupid to even talk to right now.” — Ken [38:53]
  • This moment becomes canonical in the group’s dynamic and ongoing roast culture.

8. Mike’s New House and Neighborhood Life

• [44:28–48:00]
  • Mike discusses moving into his first home, meeting quirky neighbors, and kid-friendly street life.
  • Gentle warnings from neighbors not to bring Cboys shenanigans to the block, in the friendliest way possible.

9. Reflections on Positive Impact and Community

• [50:09–56:03]
  • Serious moment as the team reflects on the positive effect their videos and personalities have on fans facing difficult times.
  • Ken shares a heartwarming compliment from his dad about the group’s value beyond traditional careers:
    • “He was saying, like, what I've ... what we've done now ... I think you have done a lot better for the world than you would have as even a chiropractor... Because, like, you look at how many people you impact each and every week and ... bring joy to.” — Ken [51:17]
  • Fans and families regularly watch CboysTV together as a weekly ritual.

10. Spirituality, Purpose, and Fulfillment

• [58:50–66:18]
  • Ben recounts a touching encounter with a stranger and a pastor who offered to pray for his neck pain, which surprisingly gave him relief and comfort.
  • The guys discuss spirituality, finding “church” in nature and friendship, and the universal need for purpose:
    • “There's something beautiful about being, like, with our friend, snowmobiling or dirt biking or something like that, that, you know, those people, if you broke your leg right now, they will do everything they can to help you." — Ryan [63:10]
    • “I think what church gives a lot of people is like a purpose.” — Ben [64:13]

11. Critical Look at Mega Churches and Televised Pastors

• [67:25–73:10]
  • The group critiques televangelists and “prosperity gospel” preachers who accumulate vast wealth and display extreme extravagance, with special mention of Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen.
  • “He described flying commercial as a metal tube filled with demons.” — Evan [68:57]
  • They express skepticism about the motivations and ethical standing of such religious leaders.

12. Episode Wrap-Up: Personal Growth, Roasts, and Friendship

• [73:08–end]
  • The boys wrap up the rollercoaster conversation with appreciation for each other and their friendship.
  • “We found out who was dumb, who was smart. We dove deep into a story that Ken did not want us to do. We got soft. We talked about religion ... and you guys are my best friends. Appreciate you guys.” — Mike [73:08]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On helmet safety:
  “The last thing we need is to be sweeping you off the PA because you thought you would look cooler without a helmet.” — Ben [08:25]
• On achievement:
  “You don't have to be smart at all to be considered successful, you know.” — Ken [24:09]
• Legendary roast:
  “Ben, you are literally too stupid to even talk to right now.” — Ken [38:53]
• After IQ results:
  “You guys are so, so lucky that I don’t talk shit.” — Mike [20:35]
• On impact:
  “You bring a lot of joy to people ... you should be proud of that. Thanks. And you’re also not the dumbest out of all of us, Ken.” — Ryan [50:01]
• On spiritual community:
  “I think what church gives a lot of people is like a purpose.” — Ben [64:13]
• On finding purpose and gratitude:
  “I'm way more appreciative about a situation than I am anything else almost always. Or I guess I should say optimistic...” — Mike [65:04]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–05:20 — Shaving mishaps and playful roasts
• 05:20–10:40 — Weekend antics and helmet safety debate
• 11:15–16:23 — Injury talk, air purifiers, and workspace banter
• 16:23–24:25 — MENSA IQ test (setup, taking, reveal, reactions)
• 24:25–25:28 — What does IQ really mean?
• 25:28–27:44 — Trick questions and comic relief
• 27:44–44:28 — Infamous Snapchat prank and group lore
• 44:28–48:00 — Mike’s new house, neighborhood antics
• 50:09–56:03 — Reflections on YouTube’s positive impact
• 58:50–66:18 — Spiritual encounters, purpose, meaning
• 67:25–73:10 — Mega-churches and critiques of televangelists
• 73:08–end — Wrap-up, appreciation, jokes about intelligence

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

The episode is a blend of classic CboysTV humor—teasing, roasts, and outlandish stories—with moments of sincere vulnerability and self-reflection. The crew seamlessly shifts between hilarious anecdotes, heartfelt admissions, and meaningful philosophical discussions. Listeners are invited to question traditional definitions of intelligence and success while appreciating the unique impact of friendship, community, and their own passions.

CboysTV’s brand of camaraderie, honesty, and laughter shines, leaving both fans and newcomers with a sense of belonging—and probably a desire to take an IQ test of their own!

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For the full experience, listen on your favorite podcast platform and take the IQ test linked in their episode description!

Transcript

[Ryan]

Welcome back to the Life Wide Open podcast. Mike, what the hell's going on with your face?

[Mike]

Well, there was a little hiatus with the Jake podcast. Hope you guys enjoyed that. I shaved my face as I said I would. Didn't do it to the. To the grain or whatever.

[Ben]

This is crazy.

[Mike]

I hate it.

[Ben]

I haven't seen your face and I don't know how long.

[Ryan]

I'm not gonna lie, Mike.

[Mike]

I don't think I like it either.

[Ben]

Mike.

[Mike]

This is what I'm saying.

[Ben]

Oh. Your neck and your chin almost look like the same thing.

[Mike]

Well, just wait till I do this. Everybody get a good look at this because, well, you'll probably see me. Look at this.

[Ryan]

Oh, man.

[Ken]

Yeah, it's straight.

[Ben]

You know what's crazy is I didn't think that you even, like, put on any weight.

[Mike]

I didn't. I've always had this. I'm a relatively skinny fella. It's weird because as soon as we started talking about the podcast, started getting the ads for the. The Jaws are Sizer and started getting tiktoks about you, like, suck on your tongue, and then it brings this up.

[Ryan]

Really?

[Mike]

And then everyone's like, that's what all the models do on the red carpet and stuff.

[Ryan]

So you can work out your face. I thought they just did.

[Mike]

Neat.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I just like. I guess I knew that, but yeah, you could work out your face. Get rid of it. Wow. Suck on your tongue to the roof of your mouth and it brings this up and then it makes you look like. So for pictures. It makes sense, honestly. But doing it all the time, it.

[Ken]

Doesn'T seem to help me when I suck my tongue. Like, it doesn't lift it up.

[Ben]

Well, I think there's so much sucking. There's only so much sucking you can do. Like, at the end of the day, you might just be fat. Oh, I'm not saying you, but just in general. I'm just saying in general. Yeah.

[Ryan]

I don't know.

[Ben]

That I deal with every day to see exactly.

[Ryan]

I'm like, I don't know. I think you might have been better off going just full clean. I don't know if, like, this, like, three o' clock shadow is really the move.

[Mike]

Yeah, No, I agree with Mike.

[Ken]

Looks like.

[Mike]

The consensus is exactly how I expected. I mean, I look weird.

[Ryan]

Has Sidney seen it yet?

[Mike]

No.

[Ryan]

You think she's going to like it?

[Mike]

No, I don't think anyone's going to.

[Ben]

Like it, I don't think. You know what's nice, though, Mike, is you can grow out Your facial hair. And then you just don't have to deal with this. I cannot. And it's something that I just have to deal with for the rest of all. For the foreseeable future.

[Ryan]

I don't know.

[Ben]

Like, do people just all of a sudden start growing facial hair?

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I've heard of, like, you can, like, derma, roll it.

[Ben]

You don't try that shit.

[Mike]

Yeah, really.

[Ben]

But I also gave up on it. I don't like it. I didn't see immediate results, so I was like, fuck this.

[Ken]

I didn't grow in the next morning. I think you.

[Mike]

You.

[Ken]

I just can't imagine you would.

[Mike]

So that's kind of what I' getting at. It's mostly, I'd say, for me, it's. Let's say it's half the surprise. It's like, you see it, and half the reaction is like, the surprise. Then you're like, no, it doesn't look good. Now picture Ben walking in with a beard just like Ryan's or mine. 1. I think you'd look good. I don't think it'd be on the bad side of the spectrum, but the half of it would be like, whoa.

[Ben]

It's not like it would just come in overnight, like, I would like, but.

[Mike]

Let'S just say it did. Yeah, we'd be like, whoa, there's got.

[Ben]

To be some filter. Yeah, let's see what I look like with a beard.

[Mike]

Yeah, we'll. We'll pop that up.

[Ken]

Older. I think you'd look older, but, you.

[Mike]

Know, like, it's like when your favorite actor or whatever, he's never had a beard. And then in, like, some show or movie, he. He has a beard. You're kind of just like, whoa, he looks so different. Yeah, so same vibe, but just like, I. I won't be looking for any compliments.

[Ben]

You kind of look like I'm gonna.

[Mike]

Start wearing a mask again.

[Ken]

You kind of look like a caterpillar.

[Ryan]

I was thinking, you know, the little pink mole rat in Kim Possible?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Well, I'll take caterpillar. At least I'll turn into a beautiful butterfly in about two weeks.

[Ryan]

Yeah. When you go, how long do you think it's gonna take?

[Mike]

Not long.

[Ryan]

Like a week?

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like a week to be back to normal.

[Ken]

Oh, that's.

[Ryan]

That's not bad at all.

[Ben]

Then there's got to be some kind of remedy to, like, help it for the people out there maybe that have done something right.

[Ken]

I think fish oils maybe help, like, with Your hair growth?

[Ben]

Yeah. How's that going for supposedly?

[Ken]

No, I mean, I'm saying, like, it helps it grow faster, but then again, I don't know if it would, like, make your hair grow if you don't have any.

[Mike]

Wait, how funny would that be if, like, you start taking pills or treatments or fish oil for your hair and you. You keep losing hair, but you just grow fat beard.

[Ben]

His eyebrows come in more.

[Ryan]

Or you just get nasty back hair or something Like.

[Ken]

Ryan, you were supposed to shave your beard, and so was Ken. Ken. Both you two. I would love to see those two.

[Ben]

Ken shave it. Do it on the podcast.

[Ken]

You would.

[Ben]

This is kind of up, man.

[Evan]

We don't have any manscapes here.

[Mike]

I'll go.

[Ben]

Yeah, we do. I'm pretty sure we have one right here.

[Evan]

No trimmers.

[Ken]

I have two in my. In my office.

[Mike]

We got to hit Ken with.

[Ken]

I have two in my office.

[Mike]

We got to hit Ken. Brand new Norelco.

[Ben]

Get that close.

[Mike]

Close.

[Evan]

Those are all nose trimmers.

[Mike]

That's fine.

[Ken]

We can use that. No, Ken, we have one in. I have two brand new. Both you. No, I don't want to see this right near my desk. Well, we.

[Mike]

We could string this out. No, I want to see this next podcast. I know we got. We got a lot of good stuff for you guys.

[Ken]

Maybe we save it for next time.

[Mike]

That's kind of what I mean.

[Ken]

You guys aren't off the hook. I think you got it. Like, Mike did it.

[Mike]

Only because of all the things Ken. Whoa.

[Ken]

He's break it?

[Mike]

No, but, like, he ran off.

[Ben]

Like, he was like, you could break it as.

[Ken]

I mean, we'll just get another one.

[Ryan]

Not really how a guy with a knee injury runs, either. Yeah, pretty nimble, right?

[Ben]

Pretty nimble lately. Pop up the video of him throwing the garbage. Trying to throw the garbage into the garbage can. Dude, look like a ballerina out here. That was all the comments, too. Like. Like, after posting it on Instagram, everyone was just, like, pretty nimble for a guy with a knee brace.

[Mike]

Man, we did so much fun, fun stuff last week and this weekend. And that was my favorite clip. Ken yeeting the garbage all over the yard.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was funny. Right behind the one of him falling on the high boost.

[Ryan]

Oh, my gosh. Evan literally put his life on the line to keep that thing up when he was coming out of that burnout. And then Ken, two minutes later, hops on it and just kicks it forward and falls.

[Ken]

I just can't believe you thought the kickstand was going to hold you as you were, like, laying across.

[Evan]

I thought it was a lot more stable than it was.

[Mike]

Yeah. No, in your defense, I did the same. I didn't drop it, but, like, the thing, super heavy, and I, like, just rolled it forward enough. Kickstand pops up, and it goes over. I mean, it felt like picking up a whale.

[Ken]

Yeah. It's like the biggest freaking crotch rocket. And. And to believe that things are 2008, it looks like it's like a 1998. I don't think they've changed anything since. I think it's probably for aerodynamics, because that thing can go 200 miles per hour from the factory.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's exactly what Evan needed.

[Ryan]

Yeah. More power.

[Mike]

You know, he worries me because the guy, he's like, yep. When I bought it, the guy said he hit 202 or 205 because it's slightly modified. I'm just like, ah, dude. Well, how could you ever like. And then he's like, oh, I want to have that on my resume.

[Ken]

No, he did 170.

[Ryan]

What?

[Ken]

I mean, allegedly did 170. I watched it. He blew past me because I was riding a popio and, like, the wind and damn near knocked me over because of the wind as it was.

[Ben]

That's crazy, dude. I have no desire to go that fast. Yeah, I don't even want to ride a motorcycle. He was like, I just don't trust.

[Ken]

Mostly.

[Ben]

Mostly, like, others. Other people or just, like, the environment around you. A deer could run out. A raccoon, squirrel could run out. Like, literally anything if CJ hasn't driven.

[Ryan]

Down the road and move the turtles.

[Ken]

Off of it, you know, you hit a turtle. Well, he was saying, allegedly, when he was going that fast, he was wearing, like, just some normal. Like, his motocross helmet, and he had normal goggles. And he said his goggles. Glasses. Like, the lens pushed through.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like, the foam was like.

[Ken]

No. Like, the lens fucking popped through.

[Ryan]

Oh, my gosh. I guess they don't test them at that type of speed.

[Ben]

Dude, that is. That is just stupid. So, so stupid.

[Ken]

He did in a very. It was like 170 back to zero. I didn't even. I knew he was going fast, but, yeah, 170.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, at least on Hayabusa, he wears a helmet. I mean, I know we've talked about this, but, like, it's getting bad, you guys.

[Ben]

No, no, it's getting bad. He's like a resentful kid, like, just trying to rebel against his parents. Anytime I ask him to Just wear a helmet. Because I'm like, bro, I care too much about you to not tell you to wear a helmet for like riding your dirt bike down like the road. And I'm like, bro, just put on a helmet. You look equally as cool. And he's like, no, I don't. I look so stupid. It's not cool. I don't want to post a picture, a video of me on the gram doing a helmet or doing a wheelie wearing a helmet. Everyone's gonna think I'm lame. I'm like, no, they're not. Look at the comments of, of doing it without a helmet on. And everyone in the comments is like, put a helmet on. Put a helmet on, you're a national treasure. The last thing we need is to be sweeping you off the PA because you thought you would look cooler without a helmet.

[Mike]

No, the unfortunate part is not everyone in the comments is saying that. I would say about 60% are saying put on a helmet of majority. The other com. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Majority. Then the other comments are like, Evan doesn't need helmets. Helmets need him like all hyping him up. And I'm like, dude, this isn't a 5 stare at the skate park that you're trying to kick flip. Don't wear a helmet. Look cool. And he's, he's basically, he's taking.

[Ben]

This is the problem. It's like, like bad parent. Cool parent here.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, he's taking the skateboarding, BMX skiing aspect of it.

[Ryan]

Like you can get away helmets.

[Mike]

Yeah, most. Most do. But yeah, maybe BMX is a bad example, but in skateboarding it is considered lame to wear a helmet. He's taking that.

[Ben]

I think he's taking it from like.

[Ken]

The bike life of the street. Like in Philly and Baltimore, Florida, where like you got these gangs of people riding these dirt bikes that have never touched the dirt before in its life just doing wheelies because they not. I don't, they don't wear helmets either. Which I think maybe just because they.

[Ryan]

Some of them wear the.

[Ken]

Some of them wear the little popular helmet that we have, which I think those look cool.

[Ryan]

Yeah. But anyways, yeah, Spencer, the really good dirt biker, he competes and we were watching X Games where they were skateboarding and they're doing this like 20 foot drop and everybody's falling and all this stuff. And I go, why don't skateboarders wear helmets? It's literally the only action sport left that people don't wear helmets. People wear helmets for everything other than skateboarding Right.

[Ben]

I mean, like, they wear it on invert, but yeah.

[Ken]

I think in street skate, the idea of it is, like, it's just, like, part of the culture. Yeah. Like, in street skate, you're just actually riding and they're trying to emulate that. Like, you're just riding wherever you're going and you're doing stuff. But I agree, it is not worth it. I'm sure eventually it probably will change, but. But yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, and at the end of the day, we can't tell you what to do, but, like, why not wear a helmet? And also, helmets are cool.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I think that's the other thing is I, like, I know how many people probably look up to Evan and, like, not say, like. And I tell them that I'm just like, bro. I think a lot of people, like, look at you as, like, inspiration, and then obviously that's a slippery slope.

[Ryan]

Just tell Evan to wear a helmet. If you post a video of him now wearing helmet, tell him to wear a helmet because the kid needs. It needs a little good kid needs a little guidance.

[Ben]

Have you been doing C.J. with your concussion?

[Ken]

I'm getting better. I'd say you got a concussion. I mean, I've been, like, dealing with symptoms.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Since, like, getting freaking T boned in the golf cart.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Ken]

I mean, I'm getting better. Feel best today than I've felt in a long time.

[Ben]

Good. We haven't. We haven't talked at all about, I guess, post that. Right.

[Mike]

Well, we did a little bit. And this is right after it happened. And you were kind of like. It was crazy. Like, I landed on Ken. I was fine, and, you know, just.

[Ben]

Ken landed on him.

[Ken]

I don't really know what happened. It just happened.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

At the time you were like, thank goodness. I think I'm fine. And then.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I thought I went on.

[Ken]

But yeah, I just wasn't.

[Ryan]

Just progressively got worse.

[Ken]

Just been feeling like shit, but getting better. Been doing the hyperbaric chamber.

[Mike]

Just levitating your ass off, trying to.

[Ken]

Work out and do my typical things to make it feel better or make myself feel better.

[Ben]

Is the hyperbaric, like, the only thing that you notice helps you?

[Ken]

It's. I definitely. I mean, at this point, it's been, like, almost two months. I started, like, two weeks ago, and I'd say it definitely, like, has made the most improvement, which is weird because, like, I mean, not weird, but I've been trying a lot of stuff.

[Mike]

Right.

[Ben]

And what. It just puts more oxygen in your.

[Ken]

Yeah. It's just more Like. Like when you get in a hyperbaric chamber, it's like this pressurized tube, and it's like, really, like you're locked in that thing, but it's, like, clear. And they have a person there that can, like, watch you and hear you. It's almost like you're in a submarine and you're, like, going down the ocean. Obviously, the pressure gets more, but you're not actually going down. They just, like, turn up the pressure.

[Evan]

Oh, interesting.

[Ken]

And then there's, like, oxygen in there. So, like, your ears keep, like, you have to keep going and, like, popping your ears and stuff.

[Ryan]

But it's not like in a plane where you're going no up. Because then there's.

[Ken]

There's less oxygen. Yeah.

[Ryan]

So it's like going down, but you're just sitting there.

[Ken]

But yeah, they're pumping it in. So it's like 100 oxygen in there. Whereas, like, I'm pretty sure if you're walking around out in, like, open just, you know, in the world, it's like 21. So you're getting more oxygen. And then I'm not entirely sure what the pressure does, but, yeah, they do like, three different stops. Like, you go, like. I don't know exactly how far down you can feel the pressure. Then you go another one, and you can feel it increase. And you go like, the third one.

[Ryan]

I bet the oxygen level in the shops, like.

[Ken]

Yeah, I've been trying to, like, open it up because, like, between all the vehicles running in here and the fumes and. So bad for us to be breathing in.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. My office is in, like, the way back, actually. Right behind the wall behind CJ and Ryan right now. No airflow through.

[Ryan]

Really?

[Mike]

You.

[Ryan]

I mean, your air conditioner. CJ's office is probably the best with the air conditioner.

[Ken]

Well, I have an air purifier.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

In there. And anytime I'm in there, I'll just turn it on. But, like, that thing is constantly just working.

[Mike]

Yeah, I was a little bit. I mean, I wasn't actually. I wasn't skeptical. But anyway, took the. Took the air filter out of my air purifier in my office. Honestly, wasn't that dirty, you know, wasn't ready to replace. Went and took the one out of Evans room. Yeah. And keep in mind, he's on the lower level. More dirt, more dust, more fumes.

[Ryan]

Him.

[Ben]

This is.

[Mike]

This is true. Him. Dude. I might have taken a picture of it. Like, it was six times as dusty and dirty than mine. Wow. Like, just. I went, oh, this One's ready for a replacement. A month ago, I was just like, at least it's working.

[Ryan]

How does yours work in the back office, Ken?

[Evan]

I replace it every month.

[Ryan]

Really? And it, like, when you replace it. Flex dirty.

[Evan]

Yeah, it's like, black.

[Mike]

Oh. That's why. That's why I was surprised. I run mine. I try to run it a lot. Anyway. It wasn't bad.

[Ben]

Well, mine.

[Evan]

Mine is all just like the lint from the T shirts.

[Mike]

Oh. Back there in the merch bay. Okay. I did check that one. Yeah, that one gets a lot of dust on it.

[Evan]

Because you fold a T shirt, you know, lint just goes in the air and then collects onto that thing, and it's like, once a month, I have to swap it out.

[Ryan]

No, it.

[Mike]

The dust bunnies back there are crazy. I mean, think when you have a new shirt and you just lint roll a brand new shirt, you know, you pull off, like, a full sticky sheet of that and that. That shit just. Dust bunnies everywhere.

[Ryan]

And I do thousands of them.

[Mike]

Ken started naming them. I'm pretty sure.

[Evan]

Got Fred, George, Jose.

[Mike]

No women.

[Evan]

Jose Nita.

[Ben]

Dude, I crack up every time we have a merch drop. We'll have people come in and help fold and ship everything out. I swear, every single time I walk back there, there's someone new, and half the time, I don't recognize, like, any of them.

[Mike]

I do this, and.

[Ben]

And it's just silent. And Ken's just. Man.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, like, I walk. I walk in, I walk past. Just. Yeah, just the other day. Dog. Dude, I've never, ever seen in my life. And then he goes, hey, Micah. I go, what's up, buddy?

[Ryan]

Where you find these people?

[Evan]

I thought you knew that guy.

[Mike]

No, not that. It was a different guy. And then I. Yeah, I'll bring. I brought in a buddy that no one else had ever met. And everyone's like, you know him, right? Oh, you know him. But they're good help. They're good help. It's great. Otherwise you'd be drowning in there.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But, yeah, we get some good help. We just maybe don't all know them.

[Ryan]

So, you fellas feeling smart today?

[Ben]

Not usually.

[Mike]

I. I never.

[Ben]

Why do you ask?

[Mike]

I feel. Sometimes I feel like a smart ass, but I never feel smart.

[Ken]

You are always a smartest. Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryan]

Well, Ken, could you please bring in the laptops? I have a test for us today.

[Ken]

Oh, no, thank you.

[Mike]

Holy. You just. Ken just walks up with, holy crap.

[Ryan]

Sixteen grand worth of laptops is yours on the top.

[Ken]

I Believe it's got a dent in it. That's mine.

[Ryan]

Okay, Mike. Here you go, Benny.

[Mike]

Thank you.

[Ryan]

Nice. All right, I will send you guys a link to the MENSA IQ test. Today we're going to be taking an IQ test to figure out which one of us has the highest iq.

[Ken]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike]

I love this. I love this. Should we. What are the. What? It's like the cut. You know, they. They do like, the YouTube videos, like, rank people who you think is the smartest to dumbest, and then you take the test and then you re. Rank them after the test.

[Ken]

Oh, my God. We should have everyone comment down below who they think is going to. Yeah, it's smartest to the dumbest.

[Ryan]

Yeah, Ken's doing it, too.

[Ben]

So all five of us?

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

What do you. Who do you guys think? It's tough to, like, rank one through five, but who do you think is going to be the smartest and who you think is going to be the worst?

[Ben]

I think C.J. is going to think that he's going to be the smartest.

[Ken]

I don't think that at all right.

[Ben]

Now, but I think Ryan's going to be the smartest, and I think Mike's gonna be the worst. Or me.

[Ken]

Or keep in mind, I think Ken's gonna be the smartest.

[Ryan]

That's what I was thinking, too.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I got faith in Ken.

[Evan]

Oh, boy.

[Ken]

When it comes to standardized testing, I think Ken will be the best.

[Ben]

You know, and then I think Ryan. I think Ken is almost too smart for his own good. It almost kind of sets him back a little bit. Can't apply it.

[Evan]

Oh, God.

[Ben]

All right, dude, let's.

[Mike]

Let's do it.

[Ben]

Gosh, I have such a terrible feeling about this. Now the world's gonna know how smart.

[Ryan]

I am, how smart you are, how dumb you are.

[Ben]

Well, yeah, how little smart I am.

[Mike]

Ben, He's. He's just little smart. Start test.

[Ben]

Dude, this is literally hurting my brain, Dude. I. I want to throw up right now.

[Mike]

Do it. It'll make you feel better.

[Evan]

Okay.

[Mike]

I had to.

[Ken]

I might have just up.

[Mike]

I. Well, I had to guess on the last three. I got my results. I don't know if it's. Yeah, I mean.

[Ryan]

Alrighty, let's.

[Ken]

I probably got the worst.

[Mike]

How should we review?

[Ken]

How do we do it?

[Ryan]

I'm not very. Maybe to reveal. Can we. Can we cut this bit?

[Ben]

Ryan wants.

[Mike]

Can you imagine? They're like. You're. You're joking, right?

[Ben]

I guarantee I did worse.

[Ken]

All right, I'll go first.

[Mike]

All Right. All right.

[Ken]

Which I'm probably the worst. I got 102.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Ken]

Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was. Hey, I'm trying not to react right now.

[Ryan]

I know, because I don't want to give mine away, but your reaction.

[Ben]

97.

[Ryan]

I got a 97. It was a high stress environment.

[Ken]

I guessed on a bunch, which probably penalized mine. I would have been better off. I probably have, like, a 110.

[Ben]

Would you get Mike?

[Mike]

I got a 110.

[Ben]

No way.

[Ken]

Show me it. Let me see that.

[Ryan]

There ain't no way.

[Ken]

Let me see it.

[Ben]

Ken, what'd you get?

[Ken]

Let me see it.

[Evan]

I got 100.

[Mike]

Pulling it up.

[Ken]

I got. What?

[Ben]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. No way. Hey, I got a 102. Wait, you guys got the worst score.

[Evan]

Ryan got the worst score.

[Ken]

You're the only two with the actual college degree.

[Ben]

Mike got a 110.

[Mike]

You guys are so, so lucky that I don't talk shit.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Mike]

You know, like, I. I just. I'm not a rub it in your face type of fellow dude.

[Ben]

Mike cut a 110.

[Ryan]

Holy shit, you're right. My parents paid for private school, dude. They got to be fucking kicking themselves right now.

[Ken]

Yo, I.

[Ryan]

How did I do? So bad.

[Ken]

I'm honestly shocked. I am. I am shocked by these results.

[Ryan]

I had this whole thing planned to be like, yeah, well, just because your IQ is lower doesn't mean you don't have creative smarts and stuff like that. You completely blew it out of the water.

[Mike]

Okay, so this is just at a first Google search. I go, what Is an average IQ in general? An IQ is defined with a medium. Okay. Of 100 scores above one average. Scores above 130 are labeled as above average or very superior, while score is under 70.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Mike]

Be considered below average or labeled as borderline impaired. Most people have an average IQ between 85 and 115.

[Ben]

So, like mine said, I'm in the 55 percentile. So I'm just. I'm too smarter than average, which I'm stoked about.

[Mike]

I guess.

[Ryan]

I'm above average being slightly below average, Dude.

[Evan]

I'm just painfully average.

[Ken]

Ken, what the frick, man? I. I don't think we could have had literally the vice versa flipped around. What was yours again, Ken?

[Evan]

100.

[Ken]

You had 100?

[Ryan]

Yeah, right on the nuts.

[Evan]

That is exactly average. 50th percentile, dude.

[Ben]

I literally said, ryan's the smartest and Mike's the. The dumbest. No offense, Mike. I think the complete opposite.

[Evan]

I think Mike did good because it's all shapes and all he does is design.

[Ben]

What's that have to do with it?

[Ken]

You're just.

[Ryan]

I don't know. He stares at shapes.

[Mike]

Honestly, I. For the record, I don't want to take another IQ test. But. But there are other IQ tests that have nothing to do with shapes. There might be a few, but this one, like I said, is easy to. To do and not be able to cheat on. But there's a ton where they're like legit. Like you know, word questions, whatever you call those in math.

[Ben]

Dude, my body was like literally shaking. I was so anxious looking at the shapes. I felt so stupid.

[Ken]

It's interesting that we got the same because we did the same on the act. Like all that shit got to make.

[Ben]

You feel pretty bad.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

What is going to do the old shower, stare at the wall and just.

[Ken]

I mean I never thought I was smart.

[Ben]

We're the same intelligence level. Mean that I did not like the.

[Mike]

The ac. What do you guys get on the act? Like I didn't do super Well. I think 22 or 23.

[Ben]

I think I got a 23.

[Mike]

22.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ken]

I think mine was 23. Whatever Ben guy.

[Mike]

Hey, but that ish. Gets you into any college around.

[Ryan]

I think I need moments to go self reflect.

[Mike]

Right.

[Ben]

I'm shocked. Dude.

[Mike]

I.

[Ryan]

It's a bummer too. You had faith in.

[Mike]

I really did.

[Ken]

It's a bummer too because you're the one who came in like we're doing the IQ test today.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I think it was. I, I don't know. I don't even have any excuses.

[Ben]

Put the link to that IQ test down in the description of the video. And then if you guys have what was 25 minutes? If you guys have 25 minutes, go and take it and then comment your IQ.

[Ryan]

See if you're smarter than us.

[Ken]

Freaking hard.

[Ben]

It's very hard. And you'll understand how confusing it is and how you'll wonder how this has anything to do with your intelligence level. But I guess like you said, it is probably just problem solving.

[Ken]

Here's my point on the whole thing. I don't think it really matters. I think that like this is such a weird little niche thing. Like doesn't really show how smart you are. Although I'd like to think it does it. You know, you can be like smart in one category, you know, or also you don't have to be smart at all to be considered successful, you know.

[Mike]

No, but it, I mean and especially like I'm not saying that wasn't legit because you Said it's an immense IQ test. Like, I just remember some IQ test being like over a hundred questions and just insane. And I think there is, like, you could actually go into a university and take an IQ test, which. Who would want to do that? But. And really get to the bottom of it. I still don't really think it.

[Ken]

I'm just saying, like, you can be smart, and there's so many different ways to, like, define how someone's smart. Like, someone who doesn't even know how to read could be considered very smart in a certain, like, category. And because of that, they could be much more successful than someone who is the best in, like, the. The most book smart person or whatever, you know?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ken]

That's all I'm saying is, like, it doesn't really.

[Mike]

Which I think that's unique. Universally understood.

[Ken]

Yeah, I don't. I'm not. I'm just saying I don't think your smartness determines how successful you are or it's at least like, a score on something.

[Mike]

Not at all. I mean, look at Lil Pump.

[Ken]

He's doing better than us.

[Mike]

I mean, he's a. He's like a multi millionaire.

[Ben]

I. I thought that it was going to be questions that are, like, kind of supposed to trick you. Yeah, that was like, what I thought I fell into.

[Mike]

There is. Yeah. There's tricked. I.

[Ben]

Okay, I have a couple questions.

[Ken]

Test fault, Ryan, not yours.

[Ben]

I have a couple questions that are, like, your traditional, like, IQ type trick question. I want to see if you guys can answer.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Ben]

Which word in the dictionary is always spelled incorrectly?

[Ryan]

Incorrectly.

[Ben]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah, I like that.

[Ryan]

All right, give me another one. I'm feeling better.

[Ben]

All right, all right, let me. Let me find one. Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world?

[Mike]

Mount. Bachelor trivia.

[Ben]

Wait, what was the question before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world?

[Ryan]

Still Mount Everest.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. Damn right. Yeah, that was right. That was really good. You got the answers over there? No, this is crazy.

[Mike]

I keep forgetting that these are all trick questions. And when you curve your brain to think that way, like, you're killing it. Ryan's like, we took the wrong iq.

[Ryan]

Can we take another one?

[Ken]

Man tied for second as the smartest seaboy.

[Ben]

All right, that one's gonna feel good.

[Ken]

Right behind Mike. You should put that in your bio. Smartest Sea Boy.

[Mike]

Based on a 25 question, statistically, the smartest seaboy.

[Ben]

What gets bigger and bigger the more you take away from it?

[Ryan]

A negative number.

[Ben]

Stupid. Let me just find one more.

[Ryan]

What was the answer? A hole. Oh, that makes sense.

[Evan]

Sorry.

[Ben]

And how long is the answer to this question? Come on, cj.

[Mike]

The question is, what's the question?

[Ryan]

Dude.

[Ken]

I don't fucking know.

[Mike]

We're borderline incriminating ourselves on the Internet. Not incriminating.

[Ken]

I have no clue. And how. What?

[Ryan]

And how long is the answer to this question?

[Mike]

And it's also way fun knowing the answer to the trick question.

[Ben]

What's the answer to the question?

[Ryan]

I don't know.

[Ben]

And how long is the answer to this question?

[Mike]

How long?

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Okay. Whatever. Tests are stupid, man.

[Mike]

We're strong.

[Ben]

That was fun.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was good.

[Ben]

Honestly, I feel pretty good about that second.

[Ken]

I'm just glad I'm not the dumbest. Honestly.

[Ryan]

Same.

[Ken]

I hate to same. Or statistically, look at Ken.

[Ben]

Dude, Ken went in. Ken was silent.

[Ken]

Because from now on, whenever Ken or Ryan tries to tell us something.

[Ben]

They.

[Ken]

Don'T really know much.

[Evan]

Mike.

[Ben]

What? What do you think, Mike? We look at Mike like the. Like the know all.

[Ken]

Whatever Mike says goes.

[Mike]

Now, from this point on, I'll take it. We gotta. We gotta make Ev and Big Wrench take one. Just for business purposes.

[Ken]

I bet you Big Wrench would be pretty good. I feel like he would be probably the smartest engineer.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Who knows? At this rate, he might be freaking.

[Ben]

In the 130 by the time this podcast is live. We're going to have those two take it as well. And then the top comment on this podcast will be their scores.

[Ryan]

Got it.

[Ken]

So, Mike, you're. You've been. You just finally moved into your. To your first house.

[Mike]

I did.

[Ben]

Yep.

[Ken]

Your first own house.

[Mike]

Yeah. First own house. It is. In the city.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So that's different. That's new. I've been going back and forth to Fargo to see Sydney and 45 minute commute now. Yeah.

[Ken]

Which.

[Mike]

Which we have talked about. I don't enjoy that commute very much, but everyone else doesn't seem to mind it. I'm starting not to mind it, but yeah, dude, it's. It's a. There's only one way to describe this house. And it's. It's cute. It's adorable. Really nice.

[Ken]

You gotta come see it. Were you worried at all that there's gonna be a prank when you walked in?

[Mike]

No, but we did talk to.

[Ben]

I didn't think of that.

[Ken]

I did, but I was like, I'm not trying to really with this person.

[Mike]

I would have actually. No.

[Ben]

Oh. I mean, I just.

[Ryan]

I just figured he's had it done to him.

[Ken]

If there was also, like, Sydney's ball pumped about it. I didn't want to just turn into this.

[Mike]

Well, that's what I'm getting at. If there was a day to catch us most off guard, it would absolutely been like the day we moved in or. Or today. But yeah, I'm not putting it past you guys.

[Ken]

Maybe we'll do it later.

[Mike]

But yeah, I met. I met, like, you know, handful neighbors. One. One guy. His name's Mike. He's super dope, super fun.

[Ken]

About right? Is he smart, too?

[Mike]

Just.

[Ben]

Just a big dude.

[Mike]

He comes up wearing, like, the striped Dickies overalls. He's got, like, gauges. He's wearing pit vipers. And he pulls up and, like, it.

[Ken]

Sounds like you're kind of friend Diesel.

[Mike]

Yeah. And he's just like, yeah, dude, I grew up on this spot. He went to Oak Grove. He knows your family. What the fuck? Wendy's like, this is Mike. Then I was like, who? What?

[Ken]

I. Mike Hawk.

[Mike]

He's.

[Ryan]

So.

[Mike]

His dad. His dad was the one that. That, like, taught Randy like, everything. You know, when he was young. Like, when Randy was 24, he was like, like 12. I don't know. Anyway, met him and he's like, so you guys aren't gonna be, like, filming here, are you? Like, I really enjoy your videos. I just don't think this is the neighborhood to be causing any shenanigans. I mean, no one's gonna care about your loud cars or anything, but. But yeah, you know, keep it civil.

[Ken]

We should go over there today.

[Ben]

Yeah, just ride bikes.

[Mike]

It really is crazy. The. The neighborhood is full of, like. You know how there's a bunch of neighborhoods where you would not send your kid out on the bike on their bike by themselves?

[Ken]

But it's just kids crawling through the neighborhood.

[Mike]

It's crazy. Like, they're like, you know, people are just out and about mowing lawns and. And this and that. And there's just kids, and they're just doing their own thing. But you never would really see, like, little kids just rolling around the block. And we, like, drive over.

[Ken]

We drive over to go, like, see Mike one day, and he's out on his bike riding around with the kids. He's got, like, a ramp rigged up in this, like, driveway. None of the other parents would let him do it there, but he's like, we could do it at my house, guys.

[Ben]

Mike moves in. They send Mike Hawk over. Mike Hawk to, like, kind of give him, like, a shakedown. And like, all the kids are like, pretend. Like, when they drive by Mike's place, they're like. And as soon as they're on the other side, like, what'd you see? What you. What kind of intel you got here? And there's like, this whole, like, ecosystem going on, like, that. Mike doesn't know about that.

[Mike]

I, like, see it happening.

[Ben]

Mike, what'd you get? Did you tell them not to pull any of those shenanigans? Any of those videos here?

[Ken]

We should bring fireworks over tonight, man.

[Mike]

That'd be awesome.

[Ken]

Firework party at Mike's.

[Ben]

So that guy really told you, like, don't be pulling any shenanigans in my neighborhood?

[Mike]

Yeah, but definitely not in that tone. And like, obviously you didn't say. He didn't say those words, but it was like the friendliest you could possibly be. Like, dude was like, dude, if you need anything, just like, call me. If you want to meet any of the neighbors on the block, just let me know. Like, I know everyone.

[Ryan]

He's kind of the guy.

[Mike]

Yeah, I was like, he's the guy. But yeah, he was like, he's driving a Cummins and he's like, you got. You still got your wrx. And I'm like, yep. He's like, yeah, I had one too. And then he's just like, yeah, I figured it was going to blow up, so I sold it. And I was like, oh, was it right?

[Ben]

Was it silver or blue? And. And did we happen to buy it? It did blow up within three minutes.

[Mike]

But my favorite thing, basically, when we were like, first thing, we pull in this. This little girls on the. The deck. Just like we. I share a driveway, which in my opinion is super annoying. Like, one cement driveway for both houses, and then you kind of pull off, which I. Yeah, I just. I think that's going to be an issue.

[Ben]

Well, I mean, at least they can snow blow it.

[Mike]

Yeah, true. We can kind of go hand in hand. But anyway, the little girl goes, are you guys the new neighbors? She's like 7. And we're like, yep, yeah, we're the new neighbors. She's like, I'm Maya. And then points to her dog. This is Joey. And I'm like, oh, nice to meet you. How long have you guys lived here? Not very long. And then she comes riding her bike up as we're unloading, and she goes with her friend, these are the new neighbors. I already forgot their names. But anyway, I was like, people seem.

[Ken]

Pretty friendly around, dude. Sounds like a happening place.

[Mike]

Then her and her dad, like, brought over some Skittles and a candle and a flower.

[Ken]

That's pretty nice. My kids that kind didn't give us when we went over to our place.

[Ben]

You should do a wine night at your house and invite all the neighbors.

[Ken]

And then trash your place in front of them. Get like, really drunk and just be like, break the table.

[Ben]

Come out wearing all white and just like. Like, as you're walking out the door, smash.

[Ken]

Party. Go in. It will.

[Mike]

Oh, man, how. I mean, it would probably be one of the most legendary prank videos we've ever done if, you know, cameras all over inside and then turns out my house.

[Ken]

All just for one video.

[Mike]

Stone cold Steve Austin. Wine glasses and everything.

[Ben]

But, yeah, they would look at this guy and go, man, he really is smart. He's always working a play on something.

[Mike]

But it's mine that did go to.

[Ken]

What he's up to.

[Ben]

Smartest seaboy that went through my.

[Ken]

Actually, the smartest Seaboy.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I don't know what I'm watching right now, but obviously he's got a place something insanely smart and creative, calculated.

[Ryan]

And if it looks dumb, it's just because it's above your intelligence level.

[Mike]

You know, it's just like, I'm gonna play that card. No, I. I know nothing. Going back to the IQ test. I know nothing's gonna change. We're all gonna treat each other exactly how we did before, with some jokes, that is.

[Ben]

But, man, I don't know. Ever gonna be able to. Yeah, I don't know if I'm ever gonna be able to. Look at Ryan the same.

[Ryan]

I'm not gonna lie. Every time I think about opening my mouth, I go, maybe I'm too stupid.

[Ben]

To open my mouth. Ryan, you. You might be too stupid to talk.

[Ken]

Dude, that is the worst. You. You want to know the worst part about dumb people? They don't know they're dumb.

[Ben]

Literally self aware.

[Ryan]

Dude, you want a monkey who saw himself in the mirror.

[Mike]

You want to know about the best part about the line Ben just said that you're literally too stupid to talk to is. That is a real quote spoken by the great Ken Matthews.

[Ben]

What was the context of that?

[Mike]

I think it was when, like, him and Jake were wrestling or something and you were trying.

[Ben]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a great story, actually. This is an amazing story. It was right when we started making videos, so we started getting a couple followers. But, like, not nothing much. Nothing much. Right? But we had a couple followers on Snapchat, right? And. And Jake. Jake. Ken's phone. And he Posted a picture package on Ken's story.

[Ken]

He was, like, stretching.

[Mike]

It was an abstract.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, he was stretching. He posted it on Ken's story, right?

[Ryan]

What a savage move.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was extremely bad.

[Ken]

Didn't he, like, put a caption like, what's up?

[Mike]

It's very juvenile of him, but how could you not laugh?

[Ben]

It was so funny. And then. So he does tears. He does that, right? And then he comes out the bathroom and Ken, like, takes his phone back and, like, sees what's going on. And Ken starts, like, malfunctioning. Like, he started, like, malfunctioning, not knowing what to do. He was like, jake, that's on my story. That's on my story. And.

[Ken]

And I have it all on video, guys.

[Ben]

Well, why don't you just delete it then if you're so worked up? But his fingers weren't working because it's so mad hot.

[Evan]

No.

[Ben]

And he locked himself out of his Snapchat.

[Ken]

No, I heard that.

[Mike]

You.

[Evan]

You missed a whole lot. I. I deleted it. But back then, snaps, like, wouldn't delete off the story right away. So I did delete my Snapchat account to get it to go away.

[Ben]

But it stayed up on his story. It stayed up on his story. Sup, dude? The capture was.

[Ken]

On his story.

[Ben]

And I got videos of it, though, right here. Ken just deleted. Just delete it. And he goes, oh, yeah, my mom on Snapchat. And we're like, well, just. She probably won't see it. It's 11 o'. Clock. And she goes, she said, sore, boys, right now.

[Evan]

It was 6 o'.

[Ben]

Clock.

[Ken]

You guys were on snap.

[Ryan]

We were out to eat, weren't we?

[Ken]

No, you're a Ben's base right here.

[Ben]

And so.

[Ken]

So Ken was fucking pissed, but Jake whoops his ass. Can we put this up on.

[Ryan]

Oh, my gosh. We got to put this up on the TV. Once you get your GoPro going again, you want to.

[Ken]

As funny as I was filming all this, I was like, this is going to be a great video bit. And then I was like, no, you can't put that on the Internet. I wasn't going to put his dick on there. And I thought just the context of it was hilarious.

[Evan]

And now it's coming out, going to shut off again.

[Ben]

So he posted on his story. Ken starts malfunctioning trying to delete it. He has to delete his Snapchat. It's still up on his story.

[Ken]

No, what happened was he deleted his story, but it didn't delete off his story. So it showed it was delete on his phone. But then we'd like, go, like, still up.

[Ben]

Freak out.

[Ken]

So he deletes his whole Snapchat, but then it was still up.

[Ben]

So then he was just like, didn't have a Snapchat, didn't have anything, and it was just still up.

[Ken]

Like, the one time that Snapchat decides to glitch is when he's got a dick pic on it. Story saying, sup, dudes?

[Ben]

While this is all going down, though.

[Ken]

Everyone thinks it's his.

[Ben]

Ken is freaking out. I was living still one of the most mad I've ever seen, Ken. But I. I, in a very reasonable tone, go, ken, why don't you take a picture of Jake and say to everyone that just saw that story, that was Jake Sherbrooke. Yeah, I am so sorry we got the video. And then post that secondly. And he literally, like, steaming out the ears, red face, stares at me in the eyes and goes, ben.

[Ken]

You are.

[Ben]

Literally too stupid to even talk to right now. And then storms out. I was like, okay, I thought it was a good idea. And then after that, we were like that. That was the funniest thing Ken's ever said. And then for the next seven years to this day, we're still saying, you are literally too stupid to even talk to right now.

[Ken]

Okay, I gotta pull this video.

[Evan]

That was not the tone you said.

[Ken]

Oh, you always got the video.

[Evan]

You always.

[Ryan]

There we go. We'll pull up the video we got.

[Ken]

No, no, go to the other one. The other one. Sorry, that was second. You got to go to the first one where you guys initially are wrestling.

[Ben]

Turn it up, too. Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up. Some burner.

[Ken]

Yep. So that's the first one. You guys start fighting. I pull my phone out.

[Ben]

It's fine.

[Ken]

You guys are mad, but Jake gets kind of mad.

[Ben]

Oh, not only did Ken. Ken's got a dick on his.

[Ken]

Get his ass kicked.

[Ben]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. That actually hurt. Like, wait, Ken. No. Ken, no, no.

[Ken]

Kenny, go.

[Ben]

Go back.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Ken]

You actually start pulling it back together.

[Mike]

After that.

[Ken]

It does straighten out for you, you get revenge.

[Evan]

I'm sorry.

[Ben]

That' wwe move right there. My parents are sleeping, Ken.

[Ken]

My parents are sleeping.

[Ben]

What he gets.

[Mike]

We got the merch, Ken's phone, and.

[Ken]

He took a picture of his dick and put it on his Snapchat story.

[Ben]

Ken. Checking if he's still there. Hey, Ken, if anything, you have a.

[Evan]

Bunch of girls you up now.

[Ben]

Why did you delete it? You let it Post you posted. You haven't deleted it yet?

[Evan]

I did.

[Ben]

Wait, so it's still up? Did people see it?

[Evan]

Jake's an idiot.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I just wanted the. It's too.

[Mike]

Oh yeah. You took his phone and went to the bathroom.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah. We still don't know what he did with that thing in there.

[Ken]

Picture of his dick up now.

[Ryan]

Dude, that's okay.

[Ben]

It doesn't make me mad how sweaty Jake was. I don't care. Can I at least see it for the video?

[Ken]

All right, go to the next one. Yeah, that's the one. So you come out and then you're saying like, Jake, my mom.

[Ryan]

Yeah, my mom.

[Ben]

Oh, she spit the deal. Jake, you're a idiot. God, my mom is so pissed at me right now. Get up in the loft. Those are dogs. I'm filming this whole thing. Don't do that, you idiot.

[Ken]

Okay, now go to the next one. You. Then you show his phone. All right, he shows his phone.

[Ryan]

I love this too. That we're just in Ben's parents basement just causing.

[Ken]

It's like midnight, dude. It was like midnight, I think. So now Jake shows.

[Ben]

What are people responding? None of them are. I want them to just to see.

[Ken]

So yeah, you sent a picture. Ken then took Jake's phone, took a dick pic, and sent it to like five girls.

[Evan]

Oh, Jake. CJ, that was like 30.

[Ken]

It. I think it's even.

[Evan]

Yeah, Jake, I'm getting more.

[Ben]

Dead dead. Oh my gosh.

[Mike]

Hilarious. Dude.

[Ben]

Put up your story. Be like it was this kid.

[Mike]

Yeah, and then finally came to your.

[Ben]

Senses why People.

[Mike]

Story.

[Ben]

I can say it now. Put me on your story.

[Evan]

This idiot stole my phone.

[Mike]

Beat his ass on camera.

[Ben]

This idiot. You have no idea how legendary that is.

[Mike]

You don't want.

[Ben]

They know it's not he.

[Mike]

You.

[Ben]

You know how much of a idiot you are?

[Evan]

Dude, my parents, my aunt and uncle follow me on Snapchat.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Do you know who they are right now?

[Ryan]

They're absorbent.

[Mike]

Snapchat. Why is that so funny? I. I don't know.

[Ben]

Let's go ride.

[Ken]

Jake goes siege. Let's go ride.

[Ben]

Yeah, right now.

[Mike]

Midnight. Let's go ride.

[Ben]

This is definitely when we're like 30. This is lost Dave and Ken the porn star.

[Evan]

You're actually a idiot. Like I. I'm seriously so pissed at you right now. Don't do that.

[Ben]

We already did.

[Mike]

The silence, dude.

[Ryan]

I mean, in defense. In Ken's defense, I would probably be pretty upset too. I don't really know how I'd handle the whole thing. And obviously hindsight's 20 20. It's hard to watch a video of yourself, you know, eight, five years ago.

[Ben]

What did. What did Jake say in there, though? When we're 30, this is gonna be hilarious.

[Ken]

Almost 30 now it's funny. It was hilarious. At the time, I had tears in my eyes, man.

[Mike]

All right, But I gotta say something. As far as, like, eight years ago, I remember as it happened, and I still feel the same way about it now. Like, I. The. The dick pic thing was hilarious and mean.

[Ryan]

Here's.

[Mike]

Here's where I started feeling really bad, was when Ken, you know, starts, like, fucking shoving him, shoving Jake. And then Jake's like, all right, dude, if we're gonna, like, do this, like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull my dude, just like that. That's when I. When Jake just bodies him to the ground. I'm like, all right.

[Ken]

Pour into the stick two times.

[Mike]

You don't have to fight him. Like, like, nothing actually happened. And that's when I felt really bad. Was like, when Jake starts putting you in an arm bar. And I was like, dude, you just tortured the guy on social media, and now you're torturing real life.

[Ben]

Dude, when he put him in this.

[Ken]

Arm bar, he should have just took in a beating because he did it.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

I mean, yeah, I thought, he's gonna break his arm for a second. I think I even say, I think he's gonna break his arm.

[Ryan]

I don't think I was there that night, but, man, that got chaotic. How many friend. Like, how many people you think you had back then? But the problem was, is then it was all people you knew.

[Ken]

He had active people.

[Evan]

Everyone on your Snapchat back then was, like, your actual friends and people you see every day.

[Ben]

Hold on, hold on.

[Ken]

Story.

[Ben]

What's up, dudes?

[Ken]

That's the.

[Ryan]

That only happens back then. Nobody does that anymore because now life's too. Too cut and dry. You can't get away with, like, that. That.

[Ben]

I don't know, man. I wouldn't be surprised if Jake still did that.

[Ken]

I remember Ken was really mad after that, and rightfully so. And then he went to Zorbas, and then I went over to Zorbas and Bottom. Like, the biggest Corona they had is, like, this giant thing. Because I was, like, trying to, like, just call.

[Mike]

Like.

[Ken]

I mean, I really didn't do. I was just filming it after it already happened, but I felt bad, so I was like, God, I just gotta do something to cheer this guy up. And I, like, got him, and he was like, like, oh, thanks, dude.

[Ben]

I really appreciate it. Didn't you walk into Zorbas and everyone, like, was, like, clapping or, like, saying something about it, though? Like, word had traveled that fast.

[Ken]

Oh, I mean, everyone has seen it all. Fifteen people we know.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude, the dudes. Yeah.

[Ken]

You're just looking on. Back then when Snapchat wasn't even, like, a commercialized thing, it was just, like.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it was just communicating.

[Mike]

Yeah, I. I mean, I definitely won't incriminate the guy, but I have, like, Pro. Yeah. Probably 10 other videos and scenarios of Jake doing equally savage, if not more savage things. And I mean, that's what.

[Ben]

I mean, the guys. We just aired it.

[Mike]

No, no, I. I won't tell anyone.

[Ken]

I don't want to tell anything.

[Ben]

Hey, you say a guy's name, use your imagination.

[Mike]

But, dude, I mean, just some of the stuff. And you guys heard it last week. Like, you know, he's a changed man, but he was like, ain't give a care about anything as long as it's for a good laugh. And. But I'm not calling him a dick. Like, all the. All this stuff was, like, just dudes being savage and funny.

[Ken]

I think I. If he would have done that to me, I don't think I would have gotten as hot about it.

[Mike]

I would have been laughing.

[Ken]

I probably would have been like, that was him. And then that was it.

[Mike]

Well, what have we ever done. What have we ever done to Ken that you would get as hot about? Like, literally nothing. Yeah.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

It's all. It's just different.

[Ken]

Different time, different, you know, different pokes.

[Evan]

There gets to be a point where a lot of pokes get to be a lot of pokes, and they kind of.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And you had to deal with a lot of pokes back then.

[Ben]

To be fair, that was kind of the first, like, public poke.

[Ken]

Maybe Jake was a bully.

[Ben]

Would you say that you were more.

[Mike]

Of a victim and I thought I was incriminating.

[Ken]

They clip that Jake Sherbrooke was a bully. Jake Sherbrooke used to bully Ken.

[Mike]

It's just you saying maybe Jake was a bully.

[Ben]

It's just a clip of him putting.

[Ken]

Him in an arm that was physically and mentally.

[Ryan]

That was a heavy arm bar. I'm not gonna lie.

[Ben]

Ken, would you rather have the world.

[Mike]

No.

[Ben]

Would you rather. Would you rather have the world know that you're a vapist and your face on a billboard or one of your friends.

[Evan]

How about neither?

[Ben]

Posted on your story?

[Evan]

How about neither?

[Ben]

No. You have to pick.

[Mike]

No.

[Ben]

Have to Pick neither.

[Evan]

There's always a third option.

[Ben]

Okay. All right, let me thank.

[Evan]

There's always a fourth option.

[Mike]

Now, dude, I talked to a classmate of Ken's at Zorba's the other day, and kind of mine, too. Great. Above me. But he spoke very highly of you.

[Ryan]

He's a great kid.

[Mike]

And it was like. He's like, yeah, dude, the people in my grade were dicks. They weren't very nice to him. I've watched the channel since kind of the beginning, and the dude's flourishing, and I really enjoy it because I've always thought he was really nice and a good soul, and it was, like, pretty refreshing here, which he's not the only one to say that the comments have taken it.

[Ryan]

Exactly.

[Mike]

And my favorite thing is when you're smiling in a video, which lately has been like, every video, you know, like wine night, wet bike, every. Like, all kinds of stuff people do. The amount of comments that are, like, so good to see Ken smiling.

[Ken]

It's the most commented thing is it's like always if you scroll through the comments, it's about Evan or Ken.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

And they're all positive.

[Mike]

Yeah. Or, yeah. If people are name dropping, it's like. Like Evan or Ken.

[Ryan]

Yeah, yeah. Can you bring a lot of joy to people? And I don't think you should. You should be proud of that. Thanks. And you're also not the dumbest out.

[Ben]

Of all of us, Ken. That's always nice.

[Evan]

I'm only the second. So true.

[Mike]

I'm so excited for Evan and Big Ranch to take this.

[Ken]

My dad actually told me that the other day. I don't know why, but it was, you know, I was just, like, freaking kind of down on the dumps, and I got. I don't want to, like, edit this vid, you know, I just had a lot going on, it felt like. And he was saying, like, how he thinks, how it's crazy because, you know, like, I wanted to be a chiropractor when I grew up and all that. And then he was saying, like, what I've, you know, all of us, but, you know, you what. What we've done now. But even just if you individualize each. Each and every one of us, he was like, I think you have done a lot better for the world than you would have as even a chiropractor. And, like, a whole. Because, like, you look at how many people you impact each and every week and, like, you know, bring joy to. So that's something that all of us really, you know, not to Toot our own horn and, and any creator, you know, because if you're bringing joy and laughter or whatever, just giving someone something to take their mind away from, you know, real life for a short bit of time just to get away, I think you're doing a, you know, a service to the world and a positive service. I think.

[Ben]

Damn, that's like a health compliment.

[Ken]

Yeah, yeah, it was a really nice compliment, I thought.

[Mike]

And I think like, let's say just back in the day I, you know, when someone would be like, I'm in the hospital and you guys videos are getting me through the day. Those ones are pretty cut and dry. You're like, yeah, if I was in the hospital I'd be stoked. And that makes me the most stoked. But I used to just be like, when people are like, you're, you guys know, have no idea how much your videos mean to me. I'm like, dude, they're just like, you know, we're just vlogging, like, you know, I still very entertaining. We're just like making videos, like, glad you like them.

[Ken]

No, but people love it.

[Mike]

But now, now that, you know, we've been putting blood, sweat and tears into these things and they're, they're full blown productions and when people say that, that's still my favorite comments by far. People are like, dude, you actually like help me through hard times. I won't get into it, but I like, for real.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Mike]

That is like the best part of our, my job. At least I'll speak for myself.

[Ken]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mike]

I mean to be able to help someone that is like their parents are, are fighting or they're, you know, they're sick or their sister's sick or anything.

[Ken]

Take your mind off it for a little bit, you know, and I never.

[Mike]

Want, you know, people need to focus on reality too. But that.

[Ken]

Same with this podcast though. Like people say like, oh, like, like this just made my day at work go so much. Yeah, even that faster, you know, or whatever.

[Mike]

But for some reason I wasn't so good at really bringing that home before. But now I'm like, I, I love doing this because of that.

[Ken]

After he told me that compliment, I was like, God, you know, because I didn't want to go and like freaking edit and, and you know, whatever that day. But I was like, God, I gotta just go and do this because I was thinking like, there's so many people that wanna, you know, are like waiting on this, you know, and they're relying on this to not. Obviously it's not Life or death thing, but it's just gonna give them a little bit of joy. I was like, yeah, you know, I thought about that and then I just freaking, you know, when did it charge? Gave me. It gave me a little bit of a pet. My step.

[Ben]

I was talking to a couple kids and their dad today, and they were like, yeah, every single Thursday, we sit down on the couch as a family and watch the video. And. And a lot of people tell us that. And I was like, what happens if we post it late? And they're like, oh, we just, like, sit on Instagram and just constantly refresh until. Until new video pops up. But I was just like, man, so many families, guys sit down at 7 o' clock and be like, all right, let's see how on it they were this week.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

No, but that is cool. That is really cool. And it fires me up reading the comments, especially after, like. Like after we do something that's like, kind of out there, but, like, turned out to be really funny. Like the boat ramp bit in the last video, like, just reading all of the comments because, like, doing things like that is, like, it's. It's uncomfortable and it's like you're putting. Intimidating. It's intimidating. You're putting yourself out there. And it could either be, like, really funny or really not. And it's kind of just like your attitude in the moment and then, like, editing it and how it all comes together afterwards. It's really cool to see, like, just a little bit of, like, a creative idea like that that we think is funny and then, like, the world, like, that was their favorite part of the entire video and it's received and. And there's so many positive comments on it. Like, that's the shit that just, like, fires me up. To, like, continue to want to, like, come up with ideas like that.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And then, like, go out and do it even though they're uncomfortable in the moment.

[Mike]

Well, that's the. The best part is, like, the execution is the hardest part. But also, you know, like, at the end of the day, that that idea is like. Like, many of our ideas is pretty simple, but it's like going out and doing it, bringing the cameras, bringing the people, bringing the hype, bringing the confidence.

[Ken]

I think it's also just committing to.

[Mike]

It that's bringing the commitment, bringing the creativity when you're editing, bringing. Yeah, there's a lot of pieces that gotta fall together and. Yeah, and I think a lot of people do understand that, but. Oh, man, I agree. Like, you brought that Bit to life. We walked out of there and they're like, yeah, it was. That was fun.

[Ken]

I mean.

[Mike]

Mad, happy, sad, mad.

[Ken]

But only had one pissed off person. Yeah.

[Ben]

Which was amazing. Which in a sense added so much to that.

[Mike]

Yeah. I was just gonna say she kind of made it, dude.

[Ben]

So good.

[Ken]

But.

[Ben]

But how this all started is like, Ken, you and your. Your character and your character development and your reactions and just like, the overall dynamic between each member of the group add so much value and entertainment to, like, people's lives that need it in that moment, you know, so if you're, you know, so sick of this or that, I get that. But, like, at the end of the day, we're just entertainers and. Yeah, you know, we. You provide a lot of entertainment to these people.

[Ken]

Yeah, everyone does. Yeah.

[Mike]

I think we really heated them up with that last bit. That was nice of you, but we didn't even get a thank you.

[Ken]

I don't even think I've watched that.

[Mike]

I haven't.

[Ken]

I don't know if I ever had.

[Mike]

I come across that in my camera roll. Especially the one where, like, Jake's wrapping his waist up. Like, that's a screen grab of it. I, like, don't even watch it just because it's like. Well, it's kind of savage.

[Ben]

Dude, I forgot about that. That just sparked it off of Too Stupid Attack. That's so fun.

[Ryan]

Iconic line.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So iconic. I was out to breakfast this morning with Greta, and we're sitting there and this guy comes up to me and goes, hey, what's. What's Life Wide Open? He's on my back. And then Greta was wearing, like, the Girls Life Wide Open shirt.

[Mike]

The Daisy one.

[Ken]

Yep.

[Ben]

And I was like, oh, it's. It's just like my slogan with me and my friends have a YouTube channel, and it's like our slogan that we put on merch and everything. And he was like, oh, cool. Cool. And, like, started asking me about, like, the YouTube channel and was like, super. Just, like, not inquisitive, but like, like, just wanted to, like. No more. Like, I could tell you, like, actually, like, cared and was genuine. And he was like, oh, yeah, I'm friends with, like, the dude perfect guys. And like, it was just like, oh, like a kind of like an instant re. Yeah, yeah. And so we had a couple. Couple, you know, cups of coffee. Nobody's standing there.

[Ken]

And then they needed a pamper after that.

[Ben]

Oh, we're talking about YouTube. And he's asking me, like, all these questions about YouTube and ask him, like, about you guys. And then, like, I don't know, probably talk for, like, 10, 15 minutes. It was like a really. It was a good conversation that was just, like, sparked off of, like, asking about, like, life wide open. And then he was like, yeah, like, my friend over here is a pastor. And did I say that right? Pastor.

[Ryan]

Pastor.

[Ben]

Pastor.

[Ken]

It's a pastor.

[Ben]

I think I fucked that up.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I know.

[Ben]

What was he.

[Mike]

Was he a field of grass or was he a preacher?

[Ben]

Let me rephrase that. He was like. So he was like, yeah, my friend over here is a pastor at a local church, and, like, I'm pretty involved.

[Ken]

What? No, I just said, leave that in that first part. Not getting that cut.

[Ben]

Yeah, and I was thinking the same thing.

[Mike]

Third.

[Ben]

Smartest pasture. Second.

[Ken]

I'm putting you at third after that.

[Ben]

No, no, no. Anyway, he. He was, like, talking about how his sister passed away from cancer a couple years ago, and he was like, ever since then, I've tried to be better about seeing people and getting to know them and asking. Asking them a little bit more about their life and if they're struggling and if I can help in any way. And, you know, he was, like, pretty religious, but he was like, is there anything I can pray for you about?

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Ben]

And I've never had somebody just like.

[Ryan]

Like.

[Ben]

Like a random person I've talked to for 5, 10 minutes and then, like, ask, can I pray? Like, can I. Can I pray for anything in your life that, like, isn't going well. I was like, oh, man. I'll be honest. Like, my neck isn't very good. Like, I got X rayed last week, and, like, I sprained my neck. So that's. That's. I've been struggling with that lately. And. And Greta was like, yeah, my grandpa is not doing well. And he was just like, well, I. I'd love to just pray for you guys. And he, like, literally, like, put his hand on, like, my shoulder and was like, I want to pray for you right now. And like, God, you know, you made him help his neck. Like, if he can, like, help his neck feel better right now.

[Mike]

Like.

[Ben]

Like, I felt my neck, like, like, instantly, like, feel better. Like, I was really. Dude, I was, like, feeling better. It was just, like, such a moment. It was so powerful. Just we're just sitting there feeling. And this guy, like, became my best friend in 10 minutes and then started praying over me and was, like, praying for Greta's grandpa. And it was like, quite possibly, like, the most wholesome moment.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Ben]

I've ever had. Like, spiritually like that, with, like, a. Like a random person. And then he just, like, was like, by the way, man, love your car. Keep doing what you're doing. I know it's a grind. I know it's. It's hard. You have bad days, but, like, like, you mean a lot to a lot of people.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Ben]

And, like, just.

[Mike]

You knew all the right things to say.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Genuine, but.

[Ben]

And then just, like, walked away, man. I was, like, crazy. I was like, oh, I feel better about, you know, the stress of. Of everything that we deal with, you know, because he was like, I. I get that it's not easy, and the world probably just sees it as, like, fun. Like, he was like, the same. That, too. I was like, dude, yeah, exactly. He was like, you know, I get that you're. You're not feeling good right now, and you're probably like, man. And if. If he was literally, like, I'd tell you to get a new job, but I know that's not even in the cards, so, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

And I was like, yeah, 100.

[Ben]

I just got to deal with it. And, yeah, he's, like, said all the right things and then just, like, walked away. And I was literally just sitting there with Greta, like, wow, that was. That was such a moment. Like, I was. She was like, what do you. Like, how are you feeling? Right? Like, what do you think of that? Because I'm not, like, super religious, and Greta knows that. And I was like, that was such a moment. He's like, I don't even know what to say right now. And he just walked away. I was like, now that's a guy making the world a better place.

[Ken]

100%. Holy smokes.

[Ryan]

Kind of got, like, chills thinking about. I mean, like, yeah, you just don't get moments like that. Thousands of people you interact with just on a daily basis. Whether it's like, literally someone you wave at, someone when you drive by. Like, not many times do you get someone who seems that. That invested and just means, well, just that genuine. That genuine.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, that's even. That's, like, exactly how I feel or anyone maybe feels like when I go and visit my home church. Yeah, like, I've said this before, but if you want to, like, ever feel good or feel nice or. Or have someone genuinely be interested in you or what you're doing or make you feel better, it's always at church. It just always is. There's no two ways around it. But, like, it's crazy that. That he was able to like, you know, if you came about it the wrong way, you'd be like, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.

[Ben]

If it was like, imposing and like, pushy.

[Mike]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ben]

But it felt like, you know, very genuine and. And it wasn't just like walking up to a stranger and like saying that immediately, but we had like a connection talking about this or that.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You know, for a little.

[Mike]

Who knows, Maybe he wouldn't have done that if he didn't feel connection. Yeah, like, there's that too.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I thought it was just. It was a cool moment. Yeah, you know, it was. It felt. Felt good.

[Ryan]

You know, Mike, it's interesting. You say, like, yeah, you go to church and you feel this connection with the people and stuff like that, which is something that I kind of, like, know about you. You're probably the most church going. I mean, granted, Ken and I basically became friends at church when we were younger, but as I've grown older, although I still believe in God and all that stuff, it's interesting where I've found that I, like, find God or whatever in a different place. Like, I don't really go to church anymore, which to some may be a bad thing. But even just yesterday I was driving, listening to the new Zach Bryan album, and I was just content driving to go see my friends and looking at the fields and all that. And I was like, man, you know, life is good. I see the, you know, workings and like, I. I can just see how the beauty of life and things. And I always say that my church is coming over the hill to my house, and you can see the lake. And I'm like, that is where I gain, like, this feeling from God or the universe or whatever, or especially in the mountains. And you talked about how you feel a connection with people. There's something beautiful about being, like, with our friend, snowmobiling or dirt biking or something like that, that, you know, those people, if you broke your leg right now, they will do everything they can to help you. And you're sitting there eating the Snickers, like, looking at the mountains that are insanely beautiful. And you know that, like, everybody is just there to be together. And that's where I've kind of like, found that. Yeah, like, it's interesting.

[Ben]

It's a very similar feeling that you get with, like, the people that you're with at church. It's. It's like a similar passion.

[Ken]

Exactly.

[Ben]

And I think, think. I think what church gives a lot of people is like a purpose. Like they. They look at, you know, their God as, as he Gives them purpose in life. I think that's the most important thing for anyone.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

To make it through, you know, the hardship that everyone goes through. If you can find like that purpose. And, and for a lot of people it's, it's like God and their religion. Then it's like, who is anyone to like knock them for, for what they believe in or something like that, you know, there's like a lot of religions out there, but like everyone kind of looks at their religion to get the same thing out of it. Yeah, I guess.

[Ryan]

And probably a community too. Yeah, a lot of people aren't blessed with such a large group of friends or a sport that takes them to something. But I mean, yeah, if you want to meet like minded people, sometimes it can be there, you know, and people to support you.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's, it's easy to be optimistic when things are going well, of course, but, but that's what like I'm an extremely optimistic person, but I think sometimes maybe that even I confuse myself with that like at the end, the purpose and the appreciation, like, I just am like really, I'm way more appreciative about a situation than I am anything else almost always. Or I guess I should say optimistic. But. And that really helped, like, I mean, just driving around the lakes, like we, I mean we've been driving around these roads for like kind of, you're saying the beauty of the earth and it really comes down to like, won't get too in depth with it, but it comes down to like, if you're, if you believe in creation or if you believe in evolution, there's other things to believe in. That's kind of a cut and dry thing. So if you don't believe in creation, it's kind of hard to appreciate. But yeah, I mean we drive around these lakes for the last 20 years and I still am just like just gorgeous, just beautiful. How could you beat it? How could you beat it?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

These animals, our bodies, our systems, everything is created, in my opinion.

[Ryan]

Yeah. And no matter what you believe, it's just like, damn, it's there.

[Mike]

Yeah. Well, yeah, either way, take it in for sure. Take it in and meet people. I mean, that's why.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

It's. At the end of the day, the only thing that sucks about what we do is like how busy we are. I honestly, I can't see myself ever stopping to talk to someone and genuinely sound interested for let's say 20 minutes because I don't have the time. And that's really selfish, but that's Interesting.

[Ryan]

Because you're a certified chiller. Sit down and talk to anyone.

[Mike]

Well, yeah, but they. The conversations are shallow compared to what you experience. But yeah, maybe that. Maybe I'm just scared.

[Ryan]

Exceptional.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

There's something to be said about people that can just go up and strike a conversation with anyone. You know, I'm sure he was like, oh, that I had my. I would to like, like had my Lambo out front and it was just like me there. I'm sure he was like that kid's car. I'd like to maybe know what he does or who he is. And he went up and he saw. Oh, let me ask him about his T shirt.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Saw a cool slogan. Something that makes sense.

[Ben]

Yeah. And you look for an in and then you strike up from there. Which is I think probably like the hardest part about like just starting a conversation is like finding like common grounds.

[Ryan]

You guys seen the Tick Tocks? I just got on it about like they're like telepasters or whatever. But they're like the televised like giant stadium church pastors.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And it's hilarious.

[Ryan]

Whatever you think about whatever. Those guys are scamming a system for sure.

[Ben]

What are they doing, bro?

[Mike]

I'll.

[Ryan]

I'll pull one up here. But in like this case.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

The guy preaches in like literally a Fargodome sized stadium every week, but he has like four private jets.

[Mike]

And his thing will be like, like Joel Osteen.

[Ryan]

He's among many different guy.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

But he'll be like, the reason I need a jet is so I can spread the word farther and faster. And then he already has three. And he's like, I am asking you, the congregation to pull together $25 million so I can get a new gulf. So I can get a new Gulf Stream G8.

[Ben]

He says that?

[Ryan]

Yeah, like that. It's nuts. And since it's a religion, it's all tax deductible. There's no thing lives for free. Lives in like a 30, 000 square foot mansion. It's up.

[Ben]

Yeah. It is weird to think about certain churches being more businesses than.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

For like public service.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Kenneth Copeland.

[Mike]

Holy.

[Ben]

Oh, I've seen a video.

[Mike]

This guy straight up is evil. Yeah.

[Ryan]

He's got the look. He's gonna be a thousand square foot house.

[Ben]

Why do you say that?

[Mike]

Just from what I've seen about him.

[Evan]

He described flying commercial as a metal tube filled with demons.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.

[Evan]

65 million dollar PJ.

[Mike]

Yeah. What I've seen like, and Just videos where he just like, he. Certain things. He says it just look, it's. It's almost not even like he's lying. He just looks most devious.

[Ken]

How do you get into something like this?

[Ryan]

Look at him, dude.

[Mike]

You know, addiction. You know, he starts in one way, realizes that there's money to be made, and then he becomes so addicted to it and so addicted to.

[Ben]

It's like crazy.

[Ken]

Like, over the top. Like, it's one thing to like, understand. You got to be comfortable. But. Yeah, but like, that is so exuberant. He's getting this money through donations.

[Evan]

He's just a glorified salesman. That's all he is.

[Ben]

He's getting through donations. You have his own private airport there.

[Ryan]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a state near a private airport.

[Ben]

Hey.

[Ryan]

Owned by the church. Owned by the church.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. Of course, it's all written off, like, for. But that's the other crazy part, is that he's making all that money and then he writes everything off, like, again.

[Ryan]

100 tax deductible because it's a religion.

[Ben]

Or just like, I can't believe people.

[Ken]

Are, like, giving him more money.

[Mike]

I know.

[Ken]

Like, I. I think he should live in a nice place, but I don't.

[Ben]

Think he needs a.

[Ken]

That big.

[Ben]

What is that? That was like 30, 000 square feet.

[Mike]

Right? So then, so then you gotta wonder, like, are the people that are in a sense following him at least looking up to him and his whatever he's preaching, Are they that dense?

[Ken]

Like, shouldn't that, shouldn't that money for that house be going to, like, starving children in Africa?

[Mike]

Because.

[Ken]

Yeah, and all these other things. Like, because after a certain point, I.

[Mike]

Mean, dude, I just remember. That's why, like, on a realistic note, like, in a small town that we started in a really old church and then we finally, finally, finally moved to a new church, built it, it was pretty small. And then it's like, after we talk about it in services after, like years and years and years. Okay, we get to add on. We're gonna add on like the second.

[Ryan]

Whatever sense is for people to congregate.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

You're not putting the pastor up in a 10 million lake house.

[Ben]

I'm not joking.

[Mike]

The whole church, because they're very transparent about it, which I love. The whole church costs like $2.2 million. It's huge. I mean, now, as in like the youth, you center, whatever, all this stuff. That's it. So, like, think how many churches you could build with 30, what, $5 million?

[Ben]

What religion is this guy. Or why does he have such a following? Yeah.

[Ken]

What is his religion? I'm wondering, like, what is it? Because obviously there's certain.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, I don't know the denomination, but I know for a fact. I think he claims to be Christian, I guess.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Non denominational evangelical in Texas.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I did. See, he preaches the prosperity gospel, which means God wants you to be rich.

[Ben]

Huh.

[Ryan]

And the reason he's so rich is because he has done so much for God.

[Ben]

Interesting.

[Mike]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ken]

This video.

[Ben]

This video. Watch this dude.

[Evan]

Send the link to me, man.

[Ken]

He's mad.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's getting thrilled by this. What I've seen.

[Ken]

Do you really believe that human beings are demons?

[Evan]

No, I do not.

[Ben]

And don't you ever say I did.

[Ryan]

Yeah, we wrestle.

[Ken]

Not with flesh.

[Mike]

Smiles.

[Ken]

That's.

[Ben]

I mean, this guy, this thing is just like when people are like pressed and they get so angry. It doesn't help his cause for anything.

[Ken]

It doesn't help either, though. Not defending him, but. Yeah, like, I'm sure you got ran up on and it's like you're kind of already getting set at this disadvantage and you're like. And you already know kind of how they're setting you up. And then it's like. Then you're kind of getting frustrated because you're trying to, like, clarify. But they're, you know. Yeah, but I'm not defending them, but yeah.

[Ryan]

Interesting.

[Ben]

Yeah. No, he must be obvious to get. Get crowds together like that. He must be extremely good at powerful, motivating people or like rallying people. Marketing. Marketing genius.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Ken]

Interesting. Or maybe he's really good at preaching. I guess we should maybe listen to him.

[Ben]

Yeah, maybe. I guess. Didn't speak on it just from that.

[Ken]

But true does seem a little bit exuberant.

[Ben]

What a roller coaster. What a roller coaster.

[Mike]

I mean, we went through so much. We found out who was dumb, who was smart. We dove deep into a story that Ken did not want us to do. We got soft. We talked about religion, which we don't really ever do. And you guys are my best friends. Appreciate you guys.

[Ben]

Good stuff.

[Ryan]

Love you, Mike.

[Ken]

Good stuff, even.

[Ben]

Good stuff. Yeah, Mike, I'm sure you do love us, Mike. Stupid friends.

[Ken]

Hey, these are my buddies.

[Ben]

Hey, guys. Even though you guys are all good guys, I love you.

[Mike]

Imagine I'm just like, yeah, these are my buddies. I'm all smarter than them.

[Ben]

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