CboysTV Talks New Gymkhana, GTA 6, & Their Take on Streamers VS Youtubers

Summary

Podcast Summary: Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode: CboysTV Talks New Gymkhana, GTA 6, & Their Take on Streamers VS YouTubers
Date: November 14, 2023
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Mike, Ken (with occasional mentions of Evan)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, the CboysTV crew dives into a wide-ranging discussion blending hilarious behind-the-scenes stories, hot takes on the business of content creation, gaming nostalgia, adrenaline sports, and their unique perspectives on streaming culture versus YouTube. The group shares memorable moments from their past, discusses evolving friendship traditions like Friendsgiving, the evolution of "brand identity" for creators, neighborhood bear encounters, and the ever-changing landscape of internet fame. Throughout, their trademark unfiltered humor and camaraderie keep the conversation engaging and relatable.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Brand Identity & YouTube Success

• Consistency and Comfort in Content:
  • The crew reflects on the value of recurring musical themes, style choices, and recognizable "traits" within their videos to foster familiarity and retention.
    • Ben: "There's something to be said about coming back to the same song, the same outfit, the same hat, the same glasses...people, they have an easier time [with] cartoon." (01:25)
    • CJ: "That's probably true to a point." (01:44)
• The “Cartoon Effect”:
  • Reference to characters like those in Bob's Burgers or Family Guy who never change outfits, paralleling recognizable creator brands.

Behind-the-Scenes Stories & Friendsgiving Evolution

• Old School Destruction:
  • The crew reminisces about how Friendsgiving celebrations used to be wild, involving breaking tables and chairs:
    • Ben: “We just paired Friendsgiving with like, cool, we can be drunk and destroy things.” (09:06)
    • CJ: “We broke a lot of stuff. We're kind of out of our destructive phase.” (09:16)
  • Memorable chaos from their 1-million-subscriber party, where even a celebratory cake turned into a projectile.
    • Mike: “We're degenerates. Always have been, always will be.” (11:09)
• Maturing Traditions:
  • Now, Friendsgiving is more about home-cooked meals and less mayhem:
    • Ryan: “I am proud to see that our Friendsgivings have really evolved. I think we have a real turkey tonight, right?” (13:07)
    • CJ: “Yeah, two of them.” (13:13)

Wildlife Encounters: The Neighborhood Bear

• Bear Sightings as Small Town Drama:
  • The group shares recent stories about a bear roaming their area, getting into garbage, and serving as local celebrity.
    • CJ: “He walks up to the bear statue. He's, like, checking out... He's like, no way. This thing looks like me.” (16:53)
  • Debate on how to deal with persistent bears (e.g., shooting vs. coexistence).
    • Mike: "Black bears aren't normally aggressive." (18:06)
    • Multiple funny stories about past encounters feeding bears, and a wild story of a bear locking itself in someone’s truck.
    • Mike: "This bear is stuck in there for like an hour or two...ripped [the truck] apart." (20:15)

Gymkhana, Stunt Driving, and Adrenaline Junkies

• Anticipation for New Ken Block Jimkhana:
  • Discussion of the legacy of Ken Block and the latest filmed Gymkhana set to be released posthumously (Electric Gymkhana out in December).
  • Ben: "It's just so cool they had it stacked up." (24:13)
• Admiration for Stuntmen:
  • Talks on stunt driver Jim York, calculated vs. wild stunt work, and how adrenaline shapes their tolerance for crazy experiences.
    • Ben: “I love me a good stunt. Also. A good stunt terrifies the out of me. And I... like to only do them every once in a while.” (28:48)
• Building Adrenaline Tolerance:
  • CJ: "It is interesting how much we get...how much adrenaline and how numb to it we probably are." (30:22)
  • Ben: "That when they say adrenaline is like a drug, that means it even more so...because you can build a tolerance to it." (30:36)

School, Growing Up, and Social Development

• Homeschooling and Socialization:
  • The guys riff on the pitfalls of homeschooling or child stardom depriving kids of real-world interactions.
    • Ryan: "Can you imagine the first time you get made fun of is in like college? That'd be hard." (34:34)
    • CJ: "I think it's good to be exposed to...varying levels of people. People that come from different environments than you... it just prepares you for the real world." (34:59)
• Teachers, Private vs. Public Education:
  • Lamenting teachers’ pay and reflecting on their own school experiences.
    • Mike: “Teachers are so underpaid for what they do.” (37:34)
    • Ryan: “I don't think [private school teachers] really [get paid more]. Ours were really... Where's the money going?” (38:28)

Growing Up Online: Facebook, Farmville, and Gaming

• Nostalgia for Early Social Media:
  • They reminisce about the glory days of Facebook, Farmville, and creatively using status updates for socializing.
    • Ryan: "I post on Facebook, directing parking is the most degrading job ever. All you do is get yelled at." (44:03)
• Video Game Memories and Parental Restrictions:
  • Funny stories about sneaking violent games like GTA, Call of Duty, and Smash Bros., and the “propaganda” around games and energy drinks.
    • Ryan: “My mom hid violent video games from me... That's why I turned out so much [better].” (48:53)
    • CJ: “Monsters for the devil? That's what it's like—666 in Hebrew...” (52:39)

Streamers vs. YouTubers: The Rise of Live Streaming

• The Streaming Boom:
  • The group compares live streaming (Twitch, Kick, etc.) to YouTube, noting the surge in popularity and the unique appeal of live, unedited content.
    • CJ: "Streaming seems to be more of the new thing...it's weird, not really doing anything, but you just kind of keep watching. The fact that it's live..." (57:15)
    • Ryan: “It's kind of like Live PD. Nothing happens for 90% of it, but if you catch the 1% of gold…” (57:41)
• Performance Pressure and Authenticity:
  • Ben: "You can lose your authenticism really fast because the more extra you are the more donations...low moments have no donations." (59:45)
  • CJ: "I'd be so uncomfortable on live stream...I don't want to bore people." (59:27)
• Payouts and Streamer Salaries:
  • Discussion of massive contracts for big streamers like Aiden Ross and the sustainability of donating to creators.
    • Mike: "Aiden Ross is making 10 million bucks a year from Kick." (60:30)
    • Ben: "They're getting paid more than pro athletes." (60:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Destroying Stuff as Celebration:
  • Mike: "We go, who broke all the tables? There's an outline of Evan on the tables with a tag that says Dis Evan." (12:47)
• On Becoming Outgoing:
  • Ben: "I truly became outgoing when we started this channel...to me, nothing matters besides just like, being the most best person, the best talker, the best listener that I can be." (65:01)
• On Streaming Culture:
  • CJ: "These streamers are entertaining. They're putting into like a production...they have things that are going to come in, that they're gonna do on the stream." (58:19)
• On Adrenaline and Success:
  • Mike: “If you’re constantly going up and up and up, like, I don’t think that's sustainable.” (32:08)
• On School Experiences:
  • Ben (about sneaking into another school): "I leave all of this stuff that I've ever uploaded on Facebook and Instagram...Wildly embarrassing." (41:36)
• On Omegle’s Downside and Wild West Internet:
  • CJ: "What's going on with these guys that are sitting there jerking off?...They get off because they're flashing themselves.” (62:56)
• On Fake Google Maps Listings:
  • CJ: "So some kid or multiple people have found the shop and they will create a location and they'll make a funny name as it. And then it's under their account...we can't seem to get rid of it." (67:32)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Theme | |------------|----------------------------------------------| | 00:47-02:33 | Consistency in branding/song use | | 09:01-13:13 | Friendsgiving & wild party stories | | 16:53-21:05 | Neighborhood bear encounters | | 23:39-28:13 | Gymkhana & stunt driving discussion | | 30:22-32:48 | Adrenaline, tolerance & comedown | | 34:34-37:38 | Homeschooling, teachers, education | | 38:28-41:08 | Private vs. public school funding | | 41:28-45:13 | Facebook nostalgia, childhood stories | | 48:07-52:24 | Video game restrictions & parent dynamics | | 55:15-58:19 | Streamers, live content vs. YouTube | | 59:27-60:39 | Streaming performance/art/authenticity | | 67:32-69:59 | Fake business listings on Google Maps |

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Final Thoughts

Throughout, the CboysTV crew blends signature irreverence with authentic insight—poking fun at themselves while touching on the deeper realities of creating content, handling success, and the pressure of always performing, whether online or off. Their stories of youthful destruction, YouTube success, local legend status, and evolving adult priorities provide a charming, relatable snapshot for fans and newcomers alike.

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For fans seeking laughs, nostalgia, and a real look into the lives of creators, this episode checks all the boxes—with just the right amount of Midwest chaos.

Transcript

[Mike]

There might actually be a business in that.

[Ben]

And this is the problem. Ben comes up with too many good ideas. We have a successful YouTube channel here.

[CJ]

Box up to the Bear station. He's like checking out.

[Ryan]

He's like, no way.

[CJ]

It looks like me.

[Mike]

We go, who broke all the tables? There's an outline of Evan on the tables with a tag that says dis Evan. All of our kids one day are gonna be like, daddy, am I a meme? So I got demoted to back over here then?

[Ben]

No, there's no such thing as demotion. I just like to switch it up.

[Mike]

Felt nice over there.

[Ryan]

So is this the best seat then? If the farther you go that way is a demotion.

[Mike]

Well, I don't know. Now that we got you two over there.

[Ben]

Well, I haven't sat next to Ryan in ages. I don't. Honestly, I don't know if I ever have.

[Ryan]

People get mad when we switch it up.

[Ben]

Really? Yeah.

[Ryan]

So get pissed.

[Mike]

Yeah, there's like a sense of, you know, coming back, normalcy.

[Ben]

It took me so long to come around to, but CJ was the first one to say it. He's like, listen, you've always been on top of it as far as YouTube content and how to edit videos and how to make them. The retention the best. And I was always like, use a new song every video. And then you're like, no, no, use a song that's really good and that people can recognize and then make it a part of. You know, Danny Duncan has this whatever.

[CJ]

You know, it's kind of like comforting.

[Ben]

And so you did that. And then I was like, yep, I see it.

[Ryan]

I like the Chinese the. Or the sorry, Japanese, the little with the mini trucks. That's my favorite one.

[CJ]

Well, there's a song for every like situation.

[Ben]

But then reusing it was just like, good. I was like, man, maybe I should just start like kind of. I should just like pick an outfit or a style and stick with it. And I was like, eh, that's probably not me. But there's something to be said about coming back to the same song. The same outfit, the same hat, the same glasses and people, they have an easier time cartoon.

[CJ]

That's probably true to a point.

[Ben]

Yeah, like, yeah, like you're a cartoon that like never changes outfits, you know, like, like in Bob's Burgers, they're wearing the same outfits every single day. And there's something to be said about that. Same for Family Guy, whatever.

[Mike]

I guess it's kind of different. But like this. The super wealthy, high net worth CEO Is like Mark Zuckerberg just wears the exact same thing every single day because he doesn't have to think about it.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Isn't it to like take a decision out of his day or something? Isn't that why he says like he doesn't want to spend any mental task.

[Mike]

But he also might be an alien? So that's hard to say, you know.

[Ben]

But I'm saying like, yeah, I guess me picking an outfit, like again, you guys can probably tell no decisions. Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, just grab whatever. But I mean, no, I think there's something to be said about that. That repeat style, no matter what it is, people, they like to warm up to something and get used to it.

[Ryan]

Now that we're back to like car Hard season, you know, where you wear your layers.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Do you guys wear like a new T shirt? Obviously you do a new T shirt under your sweatshirt. Every day seems like a waste. You gotta wear a T shirt that nobody sees the entire day. And then your sweatshirt.

[CJ]

I feel like your T shirt's what gets stinky though. Like your sweatshirt, if you don't get it dirty on the outside, realistically it's probably fine.

[Ryan]

Could wear it.

[CJ]

You could run a sweatshirt for three, four days in a row.

[Ryan]

But do you ever rock just a sweatshirt? No T shirt.

[Ben]

No, barely, but that is.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I feel like I get sweaty sometimes.

[CJ]

Yeah, that's.

[Mike]

I think it's cuz your skin is straight on on the fabric of the sweatshirt, which is probably going to heat it up more versus like the shirts more regular. Regulates your temperature a little bit more maybe.

[Ryan]

Nice little science lesson here.

[CJ]

No, I don't.

[Mike]

I just pulled that out of nowhere. But I don't know because I know what you're saying. You almost get sweatier just wearing a sweatshirt.

[Ryan]

Okay. Yeah.

[Mike]

Which is less layered.

[Ben]

I have a little theory on this. When you wear the just a sweatshirt, your armpits are not being closed in.

[CJ]

Fabric so you're just like touching skin on.

[Ben]

So you find yourself sweating pretty bad and go like, why am I sweating so bad? I'm airing it out.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but then someone needs to make a sweatshirt that you can wear just like a, like a single layer garment. I don't need to double my laundry because I just like have to throw those.

[CJ]

They make those like tight fitting.

[Ben]

Yeah, it exists. But it's true.

[CJ]

Got a hood basically on a shirt.

[Ben]

Dude, I just got these cotton sheets a couple months back.

[Ryan]

Yeah, they're cotton.

[Ben]

Just full blown cotton. I'm like, oh, these are great. It's so Soft, and it's kind of different. And then I'm like, why do I sweat so bad? You know, not every night, but.

[CJ]

Is it.

[Ben]

No. I mean, maybe, but. No, no, no, no. I just sweat horrible. And it just reminds me of David being like, can't wear cotton while you're snowmobiling or doing anything for that matter.

[CJ]

I'm surprised you're not rocking silk sheets, Mike. I could see, for the record, own.

[Ben]

Some silk sheets to own some silk pillowcases. I will never not laugh at you talking about the silk sheets at the Airbnb.

[Ryan]

I was just remembering it when he was you.

[Ben]

Like, I hardly got any sleep last night. I couldn't even keep my head on the pillow.

[CJ]

I fucking hate silk sheets.

[Ryan]

We went in there, we all put.

[Ben]

Our heads on the pillow and we're like, what?

[Ryan]

Like, waiting for him to slide off. I mean, I know what you're saying.

[CJ]

I could not get comfortable. Yeah. For backstory on that, we have to stay in Airbnbs a lot when we, like, travel. And it had silk sheets, which I was like, oh, wow, that's pretty cool.

[Ben]

He's in the master bedroom.

[CJ]

I'm in the master bedroom. King size bed all myself. And I like, did silk sheets. I could not keep my head on the pillow. So I slept terrible. Real, like, it was like, you put your head on it and.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I've never. I've never heard of somebody complaining about so their head not staying on a pillow.

[CJ]

I couldn't.

[Ben]

It was the first time I've ever So annoying.

[CJ]

I felt like I was, like, working hard while I was sleeping, trying to keep my shit.

[Mike]

I'm a. I'm a pillow hugger. Like, I always throw an arm underneath the pillow and then I sleep on the arm and, like, I could just sleep on my arm. I don't even know if I need a dog.

[Ben]

I also could sleep just on my arm if my arm didn't then die about two hours in. Oh, dude.

[Mike]

Yeah. I wake up with a sore arm all the time.

[CJ]

I feel like I'm just cutting off. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Circulation.

[Ben]

And actually, yeah. If I'm cutting it off a little bit, I'm like, chilling. But whenever I wake up and the arm is just like, like fully gone, picture being awake and then cutting off the circulation to your arm until you cannot feel it.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Weird thing. But then when you're sleeping. Yeah. You, like, put it down. You're like, dude, how long. How much blood did I cut off from this?

[Mike]

I don't know. Maybe it's because I Like toss and turn so much. I'm switching up. I'm left arm to right arm. Wake up in the middle of the night and I'll full on like sit up and spin around and then go back down. Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, pretty acrobatic when I'm sleeping.

[Ryan]

You just start in your sleep a lot, dude.

[Mike]

Do I? Yeah.

[Ryan]

Vegas, dude. I mean, it was just you and I, so there's no one else to blame it on.

[CJ]

Well, that sounds about right.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

That's funny. You know, it is definitely gonna be me because I've never actually even heard you fart, Ryan. Which is more disturbing fact.

[CJ]

That is a little weird.

[Mike]

That is weird, dude. I don't know, it's just.

[CJ]

That is weird.

[Ryan]

It's never been my thing, farting fart.

[CJ]

Never.

[Ryan]

I mean, no, I fart. It's bad, but like, it. I just, I don't like, rip them out, make a bunch of noise. I like go in another room and like.

[CJ]

Yeah, that's polite. So polite of you. I appreciate that, cuz. Ben and Evan are terrible.

[Mike]

Don't wrote me into Evan. Do not rope me in with Evan.

[CJ]

We'll be sitting here having a meeting and you guys are just like, we got. We're all packed in like a tight space.

[Ben]

Just, I mean.

[Mike]

No, do not. I just think it's doing it. Evan's doing it. So I, I'm, I'm, I'm doing it to get back at him because he's doing it in like, he's doing it. I was like, dude, there's something going on with my.

[CJ]

That shit was reverberating off of. You know, we work in a tin building. Hot dang, dude. Like, the acoustics of these farts were insane.

[Mike]

Yeah, I was following a couple rooms.

[CJ]

You got to get some like, foam blocks on the walls and shit. Evans farts.

[Mike]

So the foam is for, for acoustics? No, no, it's just straight to absorb smell.

[CJ]

I was talking sound.

[Ben]

No, that is gonna dust.

[Ryan]

Exhaust fan.

[Ben]

He's onto something, though. He's on to something.

[Mike]

There might actually be a business in that.

[CJ]

These are the fart absorbers.

[Ben]

And this is the problem. Ben comes up with too many good ideas. We have a successful YouTube channel here, but we have all these great ideas. Yeah, I mean, like, I haven't even, I haven't even attempted to start. Um, keep in mind, it's all patented and the designs done, but I haven't even attempted to start selling the wiener belt because I know it's going to keep me too busy.

[Mike]

Yeah, that'll crush. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good idea though. Put it in your. In your underwear before you go to bed.

[Ben]

The pad or the.

[Ryan]

Yeah, like the pad that's just called a diaper, bro.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, I mean, you're shitting your pants.

[Ryan]

I mean, if you're going to wear a pad down there, you might as.

[Ben]

Well quite literally like a diaper just for the smell.

[CJ]

Picture Evan waking up in the middle of night to go get a snack and you just. You see him and he's wearing a diaper. He's like.

[Ryan]

It's like a quick game of pinball.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

For him.

[Ben]

You can see him kind of like do a little of this before he opens the fridge.

[Ryan]

The baby.

[Mike]

Well, what else is going on, guys?

[CJ]

I don't know.

[Ben]

Friendsgiving tonight.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben]

You guys do that? I would. I'm curious. I mean, like a lot of people do Friendsgiving. Of course. We have a pretty tight knit group. Yeah. We had to.

[Mike]

We had to cancel it for a couple years though.

[CJ]

She was.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. It got way too out of hand.

[Ben]

We. We just paired Friendsgiving with like, cool. We can be drunk and destroy things.

[Mike]

It's like a mosh pit. It's like a friends giving because it's fun.

[Ryan]

I mean.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's so fun.

[CJ]

It was pretty fun back then. We broke a lot of stuff. We're kind of out of our destructive phase.

[Ben]

You're right. It was actually after the one year basically we were doing our friendsgiving. We ate our food, we had our time, and then we were like, well, last year we destroyed a bunch of stuff. So we destroy stuff this year. And that's when it actually got out of hand because we planned to do it.

[Ryan]

Yeah. We even did it in Justin and Megan's house.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I believe someone jumped through a table.

[Mike]

I did, yes.

[Ben]

Yeah, I did.

[Mike]

I got yelled at for that one, actually. Well. Cause it was like Megan and Justin's table and apparently it's. It's not accepted to. To body slam through the table, I guess. Which is bullshit because the year before it totally was.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was.

[Mike]

I don't know what happened in that.

[CJ]

One year where we went from our shop to their house.

[Ben]

I mean, that's essentially happened. What happened?

[Ryan]

How sturdy is your dining room table?

[CJ]

Pretty sturdy. Honestly.

[Mike]

I was gonna say we about to find out.

[Ben]

Yeah. One try to break it to the old one. I would have been like, actually, please break it. But CJ purchased a new one and it. That ain't cheap.

[CJ]

Yeah. Good luck. I don't know if you guys probably hurt yourself. You tried body slamming through that thing.

[Ryan]

Dude, we do owe Randy a lot of plastic chairs still. So harder to buy than you would think.

[Mike]

Yeah, and then we got him a bunch of replacements and then he left them here and then they all got broken because we were like, well, I mean, there's these plastic chairs.

[Ryan]

To be fair, we did replace his nice plastic chairs with used we fest chairs. He looked at him, he's like, what the fuck are these? These are like 25 years old.

[Mike]

Yeah, we've probably broken like 100 plastic chairs. The craziest destruction night is when we hit a million subscribers.

[Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

All of our friends and family, like, threw us this party to like, celebrate it. And they got us this cake, said 1 million subscribers on it, had our logo on it and everything. Plastic chairs everywhere, tables everywhere, got wicked drunk.

[Ryan]

Big event the next day that we should have been in bed Brighton or early for.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, but we just. We were celebrating 1 million and we're degenerates. Always have been, always will be. What, what, what else are you going to expect when you're throw a party to celebrate being degenerates? We're gonna be degenerates at this party, right? And boy, did we trash the place.

[CJ]

Pop up a picture.

[Ryan]

Actually, no, I just picture the.

[Ben]

I gotta find the video and the three on video.

[CJ]

Dude. Yeah. Cake comes in. Who threw the cake at Ben?

[Mike]

I don't know, but that. It was so.

[CJ]

That was very funny. Ben gets hit with the cake.

[Ken]

I gotta keep it pretty tame until our parents left. And yeah, that's when all the destruction happens.

[Ben]

We could. And we could not have done that while they were there. They would have.

[Mike]

They.

[Ben]

They wouldn't have even tried to discipline. Obviously we're grown men here. But they would have tried to. Or they would have been traumatized.

[CJ]

What year was it? No, they actually were pretty disappointed just because I guess they had worked hard on the cake. I was like, well, you're gonna either eat the cake or you're not. And then like, yeah, we broke the tables and the chairs, but I'm pretty sure most of those were ours. Yeah, like, we broke a bunch of our own. They were just like, but why? We're like, we're celebrating.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was a great, great cake. But if I were to make the cake, I would have been almost happier to see, you know, people getting enjoyment throwing it around the room versus eating it.

[CJ]

Yeah, cake's not that good for you. Like, realistically, we were Just trying to be healthy.

[Ryan]

Exactly.

[CJ]

You know?

[Mike]

Yeah. Dude, look at this place.

[Ryan]

Oh my God.

[CJ]

That's the next morning.

[Ryan]

That's right. Because our date came over there to like, they were gonna clean up for us because it was kind of their idea to have this party with all of our families and stuff like that. And then they were like, we'll go clean up the shop. And they walked in, it was destroyed.

[Mike]

And they turned around, left.

[Ryan]

They were like, this one's on them.

[Mike]

We go, who broke all the tables? There's an outline of Evan on the tables with the. With this little. This tag that says Dis Evan. Just so everyone knows.

[Ryan]

Oh my gosh.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was a rowdy night.

[CJ]

He was breaking our ship before he was even working with us. At least he's staying on brand.

[Ryan]

I am proud to see that our friends givings have really evolved. I think we have a real turkey tonight, right?

[CJ]

Yeah, two of them.

[Ryan]

We used to just go to our college house with as much takeout as we could.

[CJ]

Yeah, I don't like Chinese.

[Ryan]

Someone would get pizza. It was fun. Cuz none of us wanted to cook.

[CJ]

I mean, yeah, I didn't like it when we do Alex. Damn, she got two. Well, I bought two of them and then she's.

[Ryan]

Alondra's been practicing cooking anyway.

[CJ]

This is like.

[Ryan]

This is like our super bowl, dude. They like been like making test hits of like all the food. Like, all right, this is going to be the mashed potatoes. This is the rolls.

[CJ]

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Anyways, no, I didn't like it when we do that. Like just bring random stuff because everyone just brings something easy. And then it was just kind of like a bunch of like small things that you just kind of nibbled on a little this, little that, and then you're just like, I'm still hungry. But yeah, exactly. It's just a smorgasbord of shit.

[Ben]

Yeah, no, I get the vibe. I disagree with the being hungry thing. Like, I think we had plenty of food, but it's that. It's that like you're picking away. You're not getting like, you're not. The only thing of substance you're really getting is like the pizza that.

[CJ]

I mean, maybe like a slice of pizza or two and then like four wings.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Ben]

Two turkeys though. See, Just balling out on us.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

That is not that much money. It's like 60 bucks, I think. So maybe there should be.

[Ben]

I mean, I think you're putting up the most. I guess I I bought some Tito's and some stuff like that. And it was.

[CJ]

We actually got.

[Ben]

The sea store is damn near 60 bucks.

[CJ]

We have a shitload of beer and alcohol at the house, actually, because everyone would come over, bring a case to go out on the boat, and then they would go home and leave the case, and then I would put it in the fridge. So our garage fridge legit has. No way, like, it's fully. Like, no one needs to bring any beer. Oh, that's good to know. Yeah. Yeah. Because honestly, this. It's gonna go expired.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Like, there's no way that Ken are gonna drink all of it. Well, maybe put a dent into it.

[Ken]

Nothing substantial.

[Ryan]

Proud of you, Kenny.

[CJ]

Maybe. Maybe everyone bring your own beer. I don't want to get into Ken's stash now.

[Mike]

What are you bringing Ken?

[Ken]

I have put zero thought into it until about three minutes ago.

[CJ]

He's gonna bring some tequila.

[Mike]

Yeah, I haven't been thinking about it much either. Greta's been actually, like, on my balls about it.

[Ryan]

Who's bringing life stuff?

[Mike]

Apparently me and Greta.

[Ryan]

Okay, Is Greta gonna bring it? Because it doesn't seem like you are.

[Mike]

That's. I'm a little confused as to, you know, what this relationship between me and Greta bringing the food looks like now because apparently we can't bring takeout because C.J. is going to have our.

[CJ]

I don't care. I don't care.

[Ryan]

I think we're doing, like, a real meal.

[Mike]

I'm like, you can cook it. Am I cooking? Because you guys don't want to eat the food that I'm cooking?

[Ryan]

No. Like, a laundry is making some sides. We're making some stuffing. Alex has got the turkey and the mashed potatoes. Angela's bringing drink dessert.

[Mike]

I'm just figuring this out. Apparently, we can't smash tables anymore. Everyone's got to bring home cooked food.

[Ryan]

Times are.

[Mike]

What the hell is going on, dude?

[Ryan]

Well, that's only the first part of the night. We'll see what happens.

[Mike]

We'll stay tuned.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Launder was real nervous that her food wasn't being going to be good. I always said we could just feed it to the bear that's been roaming around.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude, that's a big bear.

[CJ]

It's a huge bear.

[Ryan]

I saw one this summer, but it was not that same bear. Mine was skinny and it was chilling. It waved at me. It was. It was a chiller.

[Ben]

Thought it maybe could be the same bear. And he's gearing up for the season.

[CJ]

He was over at the Cormont Pub, too.

[Ben]

Really? But keep in mind, guys.

[Ryan]

Rome.

[CJ]

Yeah, dude, he's, like, up in here. Like, he checked it out, and I.

[Ken]

Saw security cam footage of somebody's house on the south side of the lake, and he was, like, chilling in their front yard and really around.

[Ryan]

What was he doing in the yard?

[CJ]

Big boy, dude.

[Mike]

So then my hell is he eating?

[Ben]

So then my next question is to get that big.

[CJ]

I think what's funny about this video is he. They caught it on security cam. They have, like, a bear statue out front of their house. And he walks up to the bear statue. He's, like, checking out.

[Ryan]

He's like, no way.

[CJ]

He's like, what the. This thing looks like me.

[Ben]

My question is, is that, like. So he pulls up to one of the local bar and grills, and he's like, no joke. At the front door, at the front.

[Ryan]

During the day or night?

[Ben]

Night.

[Ryan]

But ham, dude, you got to watch out. Get attacked by a bear.

[CJ]

I know you.

[Ben]

So again, the guy. The bear doesn't seem all that, like, threatening, per se. Still is a bear. I'm just wondering, like, what's the next move I have. We live in. We live in an area where someone will. Some old dude just like, well, he was on my porch. I had to shoot him.

[Ryan]

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Ben]

I'm just saying I'm shot.

[CJ]

Yeah, it keeps roaming around like this. Yeah, I mean, that'd be a good mount.

[Mike]

My dad grew up in northern Minnesota. Ely's the town. He shot a bear that was going through his garbage when he was a kid.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And because it just, like, would always come back and, like, eat his garbage.

[Ben]

Right.

[Mike]

So it's like, maybe I should have outed him.

[Ben]

Like, no, but how often is that? How often can that happen before you're like, oh, that's funny. There's a bear there. But, like, if. If it's back, like, 10 nights over a couple months, you're like, all right, somebody's gonna get hurt eventually if the bear decides to be aggressive.

[Mike]

Black bears aren't normally aggressive.

[Ben]

Not normally.

[Mike]

Back when I was a kid, we used to go up to Ely a lot. And there was this little cabin on the river in the middle of the woods. And this guy, this old guy would put out big containers full of sunflower seeds at, like, the bottom of his yard. And then we would sit up on the deck. And then every single night, like clockwork. Seven o' clock would roll around. The sun's going down, and these huge black bears would come in and eat out of the Eat the sunflower seeds. Right.

[Ryan]

Damn.

[Mike]

And then pretty soon, there was this little cub that lived in the tree right next door to the cabin. So the cabins right here. And there's this big tree, and there was a cub that lived in the tree. And, like, the mom left or got shot or like, something happened to the mom to not be around anymore. So we named it Chucky. And you could feed Chucky Oreos. What if you stood at the bottom of the tree with an Oreo in your. In your palm, Chalky would come down the tree and, like, eat the Oreo out of your hand.

[Ryan]

Are Oreos good for bears?

[CJ]

I don't know.

[Ryan]

Was that. It probably wasn't a part of, like, the process.

[CJ]

I mean, they eat garbage, so that's. They're probably fine.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You remember?

[CJ]

Yeah, I remember. He swiped at your brother Sam's hand, probably.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Because he was feeding and he, like, swiped at it. I didn't, like, scratch or nothing, but then we were kind of like, all right, enough.

[Ryan]

Yeah, Enough fudgeing with the bear.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

That's pretty crazy. I mean, I. Probably a lot of places in the country, like our buddy Colin from Bemidji, which is more northern than here, he was like, bear sightings get on the news around you guys.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I mean, for us, it's not that common.

[CJ]

They're migrating down towards our area. Like, there's always been a few around here, but now there's, like, more and more and more taken over, which is kind of cool, I think.

[Mike]

Yeah. I have a friend that lives in Big Sky, Montana, and he was in his house, and all of a sudden his car alarm started going off. So he looks out the window, and there was a bear with the door open, like, snooping around in his. In his truck. Right. Somehow this bear shuts the door.

[CJ]

No.

[Mike]

And locks himself in this truck.

[Ryan]

What the fuck?

[Mike]

And he couldn't. His keys must have been in. In the truck, so he couldn't unlock it and open up the door. So this bear is stuck in there for like an hour or two.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God.

[Mike]

Ripping on everything. Ripped it apart. Was just like. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Can you imagine calling your insurance guy? You're like, hey, man, the inside of my car is totaled. Like, what about the outside? It's like, nope, Bear attacked it.

[CJ]

That have been a gnarly video.

[Mike]

I think he has a video of it all. I'll ask him if he can send it. Pretty crazy. Can you imagine how rattled the bear was?

[Ryan]

No. Probably.

[CJ]

I'm sure all the scared and aggressive. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I wouldn't really want to be like. You ever seen the video when you. They let the bear out of the cage and it runs forward and just attacks the camera. Like it was like a bear in captivity or they saved it and rescued it for a bit and it like comes out of the cage and just pulls a hard left and then attacks the camera.

[CJ]

Door may open without warning as friggin.

[Ryan]

Yeah, cuz they have like this automated. Yeah, this is the one. This is so funny.

[CJ]

Oh, pissed.

[Ben]

Okay. Thank the Lord. That was a guy. I'd be trying to like pull the door open with like a. I'm surprised.

[CJ]

So how'd they get it out?

[Mike]

If I remember correctly, he had to have like a locksmith coming.

[CJ]

Oh my gosh.

[Mike]

I think the locksmith is like shaking.

[CJ]

I would have just shot the window.

[Ben]

I would have broke the window.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm not sure. I can't remember how that got resolved or what ended up happening, but yeah, kind of destroyed the inside of his truck. Like when I was riding with him, he had like, like claw marks. Oh, door panels. I think there were some like marks.

[Ryan]

Oh, that's pretty cool.

[Mike]

You clean it up, like clean most dirty.

[Ben]

I was just picturing he actually destroyed it. Totaled the inside.

[Ryan]

Like Talladega Night style.

[Mike]

Oh, with the cougar? Yeah.

[Ryan]

Or no lion in the hangover.

[Ken]

Run by. Check cameras. What were you trying to mean by that?

[Ryan]

The cameras that are filming this podcast picture make sure that they look good and you know, none of us are too far out of them recording and everything.

[CJ]

Good, good deal.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[CJ]

Three cameras. Ken's behind the ones you check all the.

[Mike]

Check the cameras.

[CJ]

What cameras are you trying to get checked? It's like a Patrick star.

[Ken]

I was looking through a security camera to see if the bear was at the farm.

[Ben]

Ken's like, yep, no bear.

[CJ]

Sorry.

[Ryan]

Very specific around here.

[CJ]

Yeah, I mean, scan through 14 hours of footage and see if you can see a little black bear.

[Mike]

Greta's family just built a house on this mountain and her mom was staying there for like the first time, like alone. And she got like, no notified that there was activity outside, like on the security cameras, and there was a bunch of bears running around the driveway trying to get into the garbage. No way. So like, it's so known that like bears are gonna try and get into the garbage out there that they have to have like a cover on the big dumpster. So like when you're building the house, you have like a dumpster out front.

[Ben]

You lock it, but they have to.

[Mike]

Straight up have this big locking cage on it. But sure enough, the bears are, like, crawling over the cage trying to find, like, a way in. She's like, oh, my gosh, Mark, look, there's bears running around.

[Ryan]

What do I do?

[CJ]

Is there rules against shooting a bear? Like, if, like, let's say that bear was in your yard here, apparently you.

[Ken]

Have to have, like a bear tag, I'd imagine.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Did you guys see they're releasing another gymkhana with Ken Block?

[CJ]

Oh, they were that filmed ahead? Correct.

[Ben]

It just caught me off guard because everyone's like, them, like, having one more stacked in there. It's, it's, it's.

[CJ]

Wait, it's out right now?

[Ben]

Not yet. Oh, in December. It's an electric honor too. So if you're looking for some internal combustion, you won't have it. But if you're looking for extremely high horsepower ripping, I assume it will have that.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Where is it?

[Ben]

I'm just so excited. I was like, no way. It reminded me of, like, when they released. It's completely different, but when they released, like, Mac Miller songs, they're still releasing music, but with. With Jim Khanna and with footage of Ken Block. Like, you either have it or you don't. Like, no one wants to watch, like, a cgi, no created version of that. So it's just so cool they had it stacked up.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

They would have been filmed out, like, over a year in advance.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah.

[CJ]

That'd be weird being like, yeah, this is going to come out in a year and a half.

[Ryan]

I gained a lot of respect for. Obviously it's cool, but when I watch the, like, Amazon series on it, dude, they. That is a filming thing. They just don't go out there and close down a couple of roads and, like, do some drifts. It's pretty wild. Pretty wild how much they put into it. I wonder if Travis will continue to keep doing them.

[CJ]

I'm sure.

[Ben]

I think the next one will be Leah.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

His daughter for sure. But yeah, she was ripping the hoonicorn at Sema. Sema and it was, like, pretty cool. Like, the car in itself is cool, but she's a great driver and, like, she has a lot of years to learn to become the best driver, but I think the next one will be with her.

[Ryan]

Hooligan knocked it out of the park this year with cmac. Like, all the.

[Ben]

All this.

[Ryan]

They had, like, celebrities and stuff, like come and do ride alongs and it.

[Ben]

Was T Pain was there.

[Ryan]

T Pain was.

[CJ]

T Pain is really into cars, though.

[Ryan]

I didn't Realize that.

[Ben]

But he's still a celebrity.

[CJ]

Big, big car guy.

[Ben]

And then they had obviously Jim York doing the limo jump. Dude, like, did you jump?

[CJ]

Yeah, but he barely freaking.

[Ben]

Yeah. I have nothing, like, bad to say about it, but the whole, like, can.

[Mike]

You pop that up?

[Ben]

Ending of the jump, there was just like, no, nothing to it. He's just sideways and he hits the limo and then lands upside down in.

[Mike]

What was up with that?

[CJ]

Dude loves the limos and just crashing cards. It's amazing how he's just always okay. I know he landed right on his roof.

[Ben]

And then when he's. And then when he's not crashing stunting limos and cars, he's like, crashing and stunting mopeds and shit around the compound.

[Mike]

I think the wildest one that I've seen him do, if this is what I'm thinking, is pretty crazy. But the one where he just wagon. The one where he just jumped the wagon straight to flat. Like, there was. Oh, there was, like, nothing good that could come of it.

[CJ]

Yeah, the frame bends. Like, I'm like, it doesn't make any sense due to your spine.

[Ryan]

Like, I get. Yeah, you have a roll cage. You've got all the good, like, Hans devices and stuff like that, but still the impact is still there.

[Mike]

Insane impact.

[Ryan]

Give him the props.

[CJ]

He just built for it.

[Mike]

Clearly you had to be built for.

[CJ]

It to continue being able to do this. I remember when he did the freaking limo jump with us through the rv. That was still one of the most insane things.

[Ryan]

And that's, like, level for him.

[Ben]

Just another weekend, you know?

[Ryan]

Yeah. Compared to what he's doing now, he's really, like, continued to level up, amped it up. But I hope. I mean, you know, there is. Guys are just built like this, but I hope it doesn't just continue him. Doesn't just continue to be him flailing at things and then eventually getting hurt. Like, nobody wants to see that.

[Mike]

Yeah. He kind of reminds me of the one guy that. That did the jump at Cletus's.

[CJ]

That guy's got.

[Mike]

Where he jumped the crown.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Jump the Crown Vic.

[CJ]

His is more calculated, I think. Like, they have, like, more gear and.

[Ben]

Like, I think more lame, but way more calculated.

[Ken]

That dude was out of the car.

[CJ]

But, like, I think Jim's is way crazier, just for the record. But, yeah, that guy was like, yeah.

[Mike]

I've done this a thousand times. Yeah.

[CJ]

But that guy's car. So his seat is, like, attached to, like, almost bunchies within the car. So he doesn't have as much of like a jar. I'm sure it's still extremely jarring. But like, Jim York is just sitting in this thing, maybe with some harnesses roll.

[Ryan]

This clip of this barrel roll.

[CJ]

When he did the first one, like.

[Ryan]

He overshot the rv. Oh, think about how bad.

[Ben]

Way farther.

[CJ]

Yeah, I think he was supposed to hit the rv.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I think he was going too fast. But think about how bad it hurt with Micah falling off that rail. Yeah, that was just a fall. He jumped from that high straight to concrete.

[Mike]

So was it supposed to completely barrel roll?

[Ben]

I mean, I'd assume I'm.

[CJ]

Yeah, they had to have had some good.

[Ben]

Best case scenario, he kick flips the whole thing.

[CJ]

And they probably have a video of that on YouTube because they have a channel now. It's like, it's the 199 channel with. It's like Travis Pastrana. He's got a whole crew of guys with him, and Jim York's one of them.

[Mike]

Yeah. Dude. I just wondered, like, how. How can you be okay after that?

[Ryan]

I know.

[Mike]

And then go, go and do that again, like, the next week. I swear, I'm always seeing clips of Jim York just getting ragdoll.

[Ben]

That's what I mean, since we did. Since we were in Utah and he jumped the limo through the RV. I mean, he's on like 30 stunts since then.

[Mike]

Okay. That guy's a stuntman.

[CJ]

Yeah, he truly is.

[Mike]

That guy has. He's something special. And he's got the name built different.

[CJ]

Jim York.

[Ryan]

If his name was, like, Peter Anderson, it wouldn't really work.

[CJ]

No, no.

[Ken]

Search Jim York on YouTube. Our video is the. The second one.

[Ben]

But if your name's Ryan Anderson, then you're a legend, bro. I still. I'm just enthralled. We've talked about Monster Jam a million times, but I. I can't get over these guys that do this. Yeah. Basically do stuff like this weekend and week out. Like, it's their job. Like, I love me a good stunt. Also. A good stunt terrifies the out of me. And I. I like to only do them every once in a while. But when it's your. Quite literally your job, they're just built different.

[Ryan]

Alondra and I were talking about that because I did a cold tub last night, which I assume has to kick in some type of adrenaline, and I.

[Mike]

You're pretty much cold tub or cold.

[CJ]

Like, did you do the one at the shop? Here at the shop. Okay. Yeah.

[Mike]

So cold.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

That's like max cold.

[Mike]

33 degrees. Yeah.

[Ryan]

And anyway, she Was like, there's no way I could do that and then fall asleep. And I think the same thing about caffeine. Like, I could have an energy drink, lay down in bed, and probably fall asleep if I was ready. And I think it's probably just the adrenaline we're subjected to, you know, might be it, like, you could drive around and drive super fast in your car and you wouldn't even get, like, your heart racing. But if you took your mom with damn heart attack first pole. That's weird.

[Mike]

That's kind of how it was when we were in. In, like, Disney World on, like, the craziest rides. And everyone around us is like, oh, my God, that was insane. And then our whole crew was like, yeah, that was.

[CJ]

That was fun.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was. That was fun. That was fun. We're with the. The CEO Bugatti, who's literally driving the fastest production cars every single day.

[Ryan]

He's like, coffee in the morning.

[Mike]

Yeah, that.

[CJ]

That was fun.

[Mike]

That was fun.

[Ryan]

They're bragging about the 0 to 60 in, like, three seconds. He's like, yeah, I could do that in my driveway probably. You know, it is interesting how much we get, you know, how much adrenaline and how numb to it we probably.

[Ben]

Are that when they say adrenaline is like a drug, that means it even more so Is like a drug because you can build a tolerance to it.

[Ryan]

Like, anyone.

[Ben]

It's kind of scary, which is, like, unfortunate. But also, I don't know, maybe a good thing. But, like, I would. It would suck running our adrenaline up, like, to our mom's levels every day of the stuff we do. Like, it's. It's probably a good thing. We have a little bit of a tolerance to it.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And anyone in the scene, I think there.

[Mike]

There is good to have a tolerance to it. But also just, like, with anything that you go up, you have it down. So if you're super stoked, you're going to have a crash, and then that crash sucks even more. So if you don't get up, then you can't crash as hard down with adrenaline. You got to, like, you know, you can't just be, like, all balls to the walls 24 7. Yeah. You can't add some gas to the fire.

[CJ]

Gasifier. Gasifier. Eventually you gotta come down.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And when it. When. When you, you know, continue to do, like, crazier and crazier, crazier things to hit that adrenaline peaks, like, everyone. Well, you still gotta come back down from that. And it's gonna suck a lot more.

[Ben]

I'm A big advocate for. I don't believe that there's a, you know, there's. There's a high for every low or low for every high. I don't believe in that. But I think kind of what you just said, there is still a low and there will be a low.

[Ryan]

Like it's an ever action at least.

[Ben]

Yeah. You know, as in like there can be like 10 highs, but there'll still be a low that's just. Is equal to those highs. But I don't think there's a high. Low to every high.

[Mike]

Well, I. I don't know if there's like every single good thing you have a bad thing.

[Ben]

Right. I'm not saying that you, like you're saying that. I'm just kind of making that clear. I was like.

[Mike]

I'm just saying like, if. If you're constantly going up and up and up, like, I don't think that's sustainable.

[Ben]

Not at all.

[Mike]

Especially a way to live. And eventually it's, it's. Things aren't going to be going up and up and up. And as soon as things aren't going up and you feel like things are crashing down and getting worse, like. Well, you haven't experienced things that. That aren't that way for a while. If things have been going so good. So it's going to feel a lot shittier like coming down.

[Ben]

So maybe the.

[Mike]

It's not like every up you have it down, but it's. It's like.

[Ben]

I'm not saying that you thought that I was just making that clear. But that does make sense. Is like the less downs you have, the more it's going to hurt when.

[Mike]

It is a down well, like anything.

[Ben]

Yeah. Like massive success. And then all of a sudden, like it was going so well and then now I don't have any money or whatever. You know, like big classic.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, classic.

[Ben]

Like you get.

[Mike]

I don't know what happened.

[CJ]

You get really. His voice.

[Mike]

That's what I thought was funny about it.

[Ben]

You know, you're a child actor and then you like have a million and a half dollars and then like by the time you're 21, you're like broke and addicted to drugs. Now that's a. That's a low.

[Mike]

You were probably going up and up and up as a child actor. There's the balance.

[Ryan]

If you were a child actor, would you go to school?

[Ben]

Not. Not today's age.

[Mike]

You have to go to school.

[Ben]

No, no, no.

[Mike]

You have to have some kind of education. You can't just be a Child, would.

[Ben]

You go to school?

[Ryan]

School?

[Ben]

Nah, I'd be on online school, like in today's age.

[Ryan]

But like, if your parents had like one of those fancy YouTube channels where they like hyped you up when you were a baby and then, you know, like, you already could be theoretically rolling in dough doing toy reviews. Like, how are you supposed to freaking nowadays?

[CJ]

It's probably easier than ever to not go to school. You just do this online homeschooling thing and I think anything, I think I.

[Ryan]

Heard a tik tok clip about somebody was a child actor. Maybe it was Josh, like Drake and Josh. And he said they went and made them get their GEDs, like right away. Because when you're in high school, you can only work so much, but if you have like a high school education, they can work you more. So they wanted to do it to make them work more. I'm not certain it was him, but somebody like him.

[Mike]

Yeah. I don't know about the whole like homeschooling thing because you, you miss a lot. I think that just comes with going to school. Like, getting educated is one thing, but getting like the social education is another.

[Ryan]

Can you imagine the first time you get made fun of is in like college. That'd be hard.

[CJ]

I think it's good to be exposed. I agree, like 100%. Like, I look at like, I think it's good to be exposed to like varying levels of like people. People that come from different environments than you. Because then like, I don't know, it just prepares you for the real world. You know, you've dealt with someone that, you know, just a little bit rougher around the edges or, you know, and just, I don't know, I think it's.

[Ben]

Gets you acclimated comments on the Internet. Like you could probably even if there's.

[Ryan]

A whole bunch of now.

[Ben]

Well, no, but I'm saying, like, you can take those as you will. They can be really mean or whatever. Something to be said about just some good old exposure to, to people in the real world.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Maybe not agreeing with you or maybe just straight up being mean.

[CJ]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I didn't really like going to school and getting bullied, so I'm doing my bullying remote.

[Ben]

Like, yeah, now I do all my bullying remote.

[Ryan]

So much easier. I can affect so many more people.

[Mike]

There is something about like having a liberal ass teacher that clearly has a certain way of thinking, whether that's the way that you want your kids raised or not. But like, even, even a super conservative teacher that's like pushing Their views on these students, though, it's kind of crazy. It is crazy because, I mean, you see plenty of kids go off to college and that's when they're like, formed by, like, their professors.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I think college is probably worse. I think college professors go like, these kids are adults. I can tell them things that I feel. But I feel like if you're a fourth grade teacher, like, your fourth grade teacher isn't like you should vote for.

[Mike]

They are now. I think they are now. I think they're like, you're not a male, you're not female.

[Ken]

There's more like accountability in like your local elementary school where a lot of those college teachers, they're tenured, they can say damn near anything and they can't get fired.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

But I mean, I. I think that teachers of younger kids are probably a little more focused on school. They have to enable kids to be whatever they want to be. Apache helicopters and like that, because they can.

[Ben]

The younger it gets. Like, teachers are just. They should just stick to making sure they know how that kids have a smile on their face and that they can read.

[Mike]

You know, among other things, they messed up on. On teaching me that never quite figured out that whole reading thing.

[CJ]

You're still terrible. You were stupid.

[Mike]

Definitely didn't help what Ken said, though. Like, with these professors that are tenured, I'm pretty sure that teachers for like elementary school are. And middle school and high school, I'm sure are too, though, to a point after a couple years, because they need them so bad.

[Ken]

Yeah, there's more like accountability. Like, you can go to your school board, you can compare plane and you can have like, have them reprimanded.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Like there. There's more accountability in the community aspect of like a local public school or even like a. Just your local school than sending your kids off to some college where you basically have zero input in that.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

[CJ]

Dude.

[Mike]

I think that teachers are like, actually so underpaid.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

For what they do. And obviously everyone would say that, but like, if they were paid more, which would just obviously increase taxes and everything that goes with that. But the kids would probably turn out better because the teachers that actually want to be there or might attract. Yeah, they, you know, better, more suited teachers.

[Ben]

The basis of it, no one's ever expected to go above and beyond of what you're paid. You really. You're not. You're expected to do your job. I don't know, like, no one's going above and beyond because why would you add 50k a year?

[Ryan]

But I think the crazy thing is a lot of teachers do. I think I. Oh yeah. And they were like, I don't do it for the money. I do it because like I had a good teacher. I want to influence kids and stuff like that and God bless them, because a lot of people aren't like that.

[Mike]

So I guess that is the benefit sending your kid to a private school though, because the teachers are probably paid more.

[CJ]

Huh?

[Ryan]

Actually, I don't think really. Ours were really. It was easier.

[Mike]

Where's the money going?

[Ryan]

Fucking new performing arts centers.

[Ben]

I guess essentially the money is the.

[Ken]

Same amount of money. It's just you're paying that out of pocket instead of your tax dollars paying it out of pocket and everyone else's tax dollars.

[Mike]

Damn. How much was your school, Ryan?

[Ben]

I am curious. I mean, are you?

[Ryan]

I think it was a lot.

[Ben]

Disclosing that like what a. A year was.

[CJ]

It's probably cheaper going to college.

[Ryan]

It was really. Oh, I was thinking not with room and board and. But yeah, college tuition was cheaper and I went to cheap college.

[Mike]

20 grand a year?

[Ryan]

I don't think it was that much.

[Ben]

I was thinking it was like 11 grand a year.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Yeah. So what are you going to do, Mike? Is Sydney going to want to.

[Ben]

I don't know. That's. That's good question. I mean, as long as there's couple more steps. Thankfully. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Until they get to there.

[Ben]

Yeah. But no, I. I'm not opposed to.

[Mike]

I got excited there for a second.

[CJ]

Yeah, we still got quite a bit. No, seriously, dude.

[Ryan]

Mike, I went down a rabbit hole on your Facebook looking for some picture. I think it was you wearing weird pants and you had like a Facebook folder and it was like going to Lake park for a day or something like that. And you'd like turn on the camera, just taking photos.

[CJ]

You went to Lake park for the day? Mm. That's a neighboring school.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

What do you mean the day?

[Ben]

We've talked about this before.

[Mike]

This is so.

[Ben]

No, I mean kind of like the way you brought it up is different. Anyway. I just remember you guys thinking it was so insane that students could visit other schools when they had like the day off.

[Mike]

Yeah, but why you would want.

[Ben]

Correct, Correct.

[Ryan]

So go to the Galding skate park or something.

[Mike]

The fuck were you doing? Sitting in classes for a day.

[Ben]

Hanging with my homies.

[Ryan]

Probably being a nuisance.

[Mike]

There's clearly a reason that there's no way that you can still do that.

[Ben]

Not really. I'd say my. The friends that Went to Lake park, were being the nuisance, and I was just a part of it, instigator. But, yeah, it's just like. So you have to go to school five days a week pretty much for your entire life, what it feels like till you're 18, and then. So it's like, what's one day at a school where you don't have to do anything all day? Like, how is that. How is that going to.

[Ryan]

Check it out. You need to hang out with other friends.

[Ben]

Yeah. I was like, how is that. Like, that insane?

[Mike]

Were you doing it to see, like, the. The guys are, like, going for the chicks, like, oh, it's who. It's like the new kid in school, like, the new kid. All the chicks that were like, the guys are like, just for the day, you know, kind of sizing them up. And the girls are like, oh, he's kind of cute.

[Ben]

A little bit of both. Mostly for the homies.

[Ryan]

But I can tell his mom doesn't dress him because he's wearing a ridiculous outfit.

[Mike]

Oh, it's something about those purple skinny jeans.

[Ben]

No, I knew most of the girls there, too. I mean, keep in mind, I live like seven miles from this school, and this school only has, like, 50 people per grade, so.

[Mike]

Were you kind of a legend walking around there for the day?

[Ryan]

Oh, I'd say so, yeah, dude, I.

[Ben]

Was a legend snapping pictures. The principal. What were you doing with the camera? For the record, like, that's not. I didn't. I didn't bring, like, a DSLR to that. I brought to the. The basketball game later on. And, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely. You guys are already gonna dig in my Facebook. I leave all this.

[Mike]

I always.

[Ben]

I have been curious about this question. I leave all of this stuff that I've ever uploaded on Facebook and Instagram. I think that's part of my life.

[Mike]

I appreciate that.

[Ben]

I do.

[CJ]

I agree.

[Ben]

Wildly embarrassing. Like, this stuff that I put up is just. You're going to look at it and go, what? I wonder if you have to be my friend or not to see the pictures.

[Mike]

Well, pop it up. Can pop it up.

[Ben]

It's just so much wax stuff in there. But, yeah, I just leave it because it was part of my life. But, yeah, the principal kicked me out that day that I.

[CJ]

Why? How long?

[Ben]

Here's the crazy part. Why? I mean, half the day I made it to lunch, and then he's like, yeah, you got to pay for lunch. I'm like, that's fine. I have one of the guys punching their number he's like, no, you got to pay for it. And I was like, okay, I can figure it out. Then I can pay cash or something. And then I was like, yeah, whatever. And then I, like, went up and grabbed a peanut butter sandwich. And he's like, you have to pay for that. Then he's like, you got.

[CJ]

You need to leave.

[Ben]

And then I didn't. And I, like, tried to sneak into the next class with, you know, the homies. And then you can hear him, Micah Sandman. They're like, oh, dude, you. And then we're all walking in the school, and he's like, they're crowding around me, trying to, like, cover me up, and it's the weirdest thing. And then he, like, ends up, like, grabbing me from the stairs and was like, you need to leave. So I kicked me out.

[CJ]

Wait, so were you stealing the peanut butter and jelly then?

[Ben]

Essentially, yeah.

[Mike]

Well, yeah.

[CJ]

No. You got kicked out?

[Ben]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I was like, that's the pettiest of that.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, but still funded, you know? Yeah.

[CJ]

You've stolen. You used to steal a lot back then, didn't you?

[Ben]

No, no, we gotta be a little more specific. I used to steal a lot of treats from the school lunch.

[Mike]

That's stealing from the taxpayers.

[Ben]

The only time I've ever stolen, that's a federal crime.

[Ryan]

Nice.

[Ben]

Nice. That's pretty bad example to set my times. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[CJ]

Oh, they say he's not a very good role model, Ben, so I think he's okay.

[Ben]

Yeah, I've never claimed to be a good role model. I'll shoot you straight, though.

[Ryan]

You will.

[Mike]

No, I do appreciate that. Also, I appreciate you keeping your old pictures and every decision that you ever made public, because my buddy Ryan over here has wiped the Internet clean of all pictures of him wearing transition.

[Ben]

Did he? No, No, I was like, I don't think he actually did that, though.

[Mike]

Can we find any pictures? I can't find any pictures of you.

[CJ]

Had them all saved on your iPad. If you could find your old iPad to scroll. Really?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I remember sometimes you have to go to, like, Justin's page and then find the pictures that he uploaded that he forgot to take Ryan in or something 12 years ago.

[Ryan]

I post on Facebook, directing parking is the most degrading job ever. All you do is get yelled at. Who the fuck let me have a keyboard?

[Mike]

Well, who lets you direct parking?

[Ryan]

I don't think I. I don't know. It's probably something. Two people liked it, right? And one Other guy.

[Ben]

I'm picturing you.

[CJ]

Are you just driving past someone directing parking? That's degrade.

[Ryan]

What a fucking.

[Ben]

No, that's very similar to something I could see myself, I guess, uploading my status or whatever.

[Mike]

Ryan. Facebook as Twitter. Before Twitter was Twitter. And then you kind of use Twitter as Twitter too. And you always had fire tweets.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I used to be good at social media and I kind of fell off.

[Mike]

Do you guys remember playing farmville? Anyone play farmville? Yeah, that was the best. Dude, that was like the golden age.

[Ben]

Of Facebook when, like, you get invited to play a Facebook game.

[Ryan]

Here's a picture of me in transition.

[Ben]

From a girl in your school. I'll play with you.

[Mike]

Or when, like, everyone comments like happy birthday on your page and you feel like extra love.

[Ben]

How many walls? Yeah. How many posts on your wall did you get?

[Ryan]

Yeah, I used to go off on Twitter. Dude, that's some guy tweeted at me. I have no idea who the you are, but all the girls in my high school are wishing you happy birthday. Peak.

[Ben]

Oh, that's a man.

[Mike]

Had to have felt pretty good. Can we pull up some of Ryan's old tweets? I remember them being pretty good, but I'd like to. Yeah, maybe they weren't Come back to it and see.

[Ryan]

I did take a scroll down my old Instagram captions because I used to be good at that too. And I was like, oh, these were actually.

[CJ]

I feel like back then it was like more about the caption.

[Ken]

I gotta sign up for Twitter.

[Ben]

Unbelievable.

[CJ]

You don't have Twitter.

[Ryan]

No. Well, it's X now.

[Ken]

I deleted it.

[Ben]

Why?

[Ken]

Because I never used it.

[CJ]

Yeah, too many insensitive tweets back since deleting.

[Ben]

Yeah, he. He didn't delete the app off his phone. He deleted.

[Ryan]

Delete the whole damn account.

[Mike]

I actually go on Twitter quite a bit now.

[CJ]

It's way different now.

[Mike]

It's way different.

[CJ]

Yeah. X obviously, with Elon taking it over.

[Ben]

Dude, I feel like it's just.

[CJ]

Oh, it's way different.

[Ben]

Fine. But it doesn't feel different to me at all.

[CJ]

Like, when you're scrolling, I notice I don't go on it much, but, like, I'm getting way, way more like fights.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah. The one thing that's changed is that Twitter adopted the same thing that every other social media platform has is curated.

[CJ]

Yeah, but they don't also like and have that. They don't really seem to hide violent or.

[Ben]

They never have normally.

[Mike]

What?

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Like, a lot of like, you know, pretty bad stuff that you really shouldn't be watching. You see on Twitter, at least I do. I don't know what the frick's wrong with mine.

[Ryan]

Oh, I have you watch one dud and then it gets.

[Ben]

I don't agree with it either. Especially like the high school or younger age. I don't know. Like, I just don't agree with seeing that you see some like, high school fight and then it gets like 3 million views on Twitter. And then like, all I gotta do is sucker punch this kid six times.

[Ryan]

And then he was talking about this too. It's just like, it's not bad for your brain.

[Ben]

Yeah, I agree. It's like, it's not bad or you're saying it's bad.

[Ryan]

Sorry, it's bad for your brain.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's like, it just doesn't. It seems detrimental to your entire, like, morale.

[CJ]

Get like, way too used and comfortable to it. Yeah, I remember when I was like a kid, that's when like, violent video games were kind of starting to actually become, like, more realistic and whatever. And. And there was all this big debate because then the school shootings seem to start happening more and more and more. And like, honestly, there probably is a correlation between it all.

[Ryan]

You know that one Call of Duty mission where you like, walk into the airport and take everybody out?

[CJ]

MW2.

[Ryan]

You know, you can win that mission without firing a single shot.

[Ben]

Oh, that's interesting. I wonder if they have.

[Ryan]

Everybody just goes in there and lights up a whole airport.

[CJ]

Yeah, that.

[Ryan]

In the video game. I remember my TSA pre check status.

[CJ]

It got like way snow.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I know.

[CJ]

And then you had to pick whether you were going to play that mission or not. Really?

[Ryan]

Yeah, there's like, oh, damn it would.

[Ben]

A little consent thing on it.

[CJ]

Dude, I wouldn't mind hopping on some Call of Duty. I haven't done it in years, but, like, I just feel like it'd be fun.

[Ryan]

I was just walking through the mall and I was like, Damn, GTA 6 is coming out. I wish I had the time. I just picked up a new Xbox. Sit down and play it. Never gonna.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Why would I do that?

[Ryan]

I. Alondra would be pissed if I worked for 12 hours and got home at 8 o' clock at night. And then I went, hey, babe, I'm gonna go play Xbox till 2am and then leave in the morning.

[Mike]

You should be playing we.

[Ryan]

You're right. Stay active.

[Ben]

I mean, yeah, I agree. Definitely ain't gonna have any time to play it, but like, we bowling I'm pretty excited for GTA 6.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's gonna be sick.

[Ben]

I saw this. Like, this is the dumbest meme ever. It was like, GTA 5 comes out. Do you have a responsible adult that's above 18 that can purchase this or whatever? And now it's just like cash.

[CJ]

A card over the age of. Yeah.

[Ben]

I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I was like, I get that. But also. Yeah, okay. GTA 5 came out when most of us weren't 18. But then. Yeah, if you're gonna wait 35 years to make another game.

[Ryan]

My mom hid violent video games for me.

[Mike]

Really?

[Ryan]

Yeah. That's why I turned out so much.

[Ben]

She still bought him for him, but just hit him, Hit him.

[Ryan]

No, no. Because, like, when I got my gamecube that I talked about, it came with Super Smash Bros. But apparently that was too violent.

[CJ]

What?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

So I never got to play it.

[CJ]

And that's crazy.

[Ryan]

Mom.

[Ben]

I'll play with Kirby One.

[Ryan]

And I still have it sealed somewhere. Like six bucks.

[Ben]

No.

[Ryan]

Every. Every single GameCube. It's like having a sealed copy.

[Ben]

But here's my opinion real quick. GameCube and Smash Bros. Like, if there's any game that should ever. Let's say you had one game for GameCube, it should be that.

[CJ]

Yeah, for sure. I agree.

[Mike]

I never played those games either, Ryan. Not because I wasn't allowed to. I just never did.

[CJ]

Didn't like him.

[Ben]

I don't know if that's.

[CJ]

He was too cool for video games.

[Ryan]

I remember I was always surprised that you had an Xbox. You seem kind of like the type to, like, not have one.

[Mike]

I always loved coming over to your place and playing Xbox, though.

[Ryan]

We would, dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, we would.

[Ryan]

Just.

[Mike]

It was nice out, and we're like, let's just sit in the basement for eight hours and play Xbox.

[Ryan]

You know, we were. We were pretty good outside guys, but there would hit a point, It'd be like July 28th on a Saturday, and we're like, we're gonna play COD Zombies all day in the basement. Our dad would be like, what the are you guys doing, Dude, I kind.

[Mike]

Of want to do that again.

[Ryan]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mike]

Fun. Like, that's just also something that. It was, like, very short lived in my life, but I had a good time doing it and I kind of wanted being like, you know, somewhat, one might call an adult now. Yeah, I kind of want to fire that up again.

[Ben]

But, like, what better night to do it on than friends giving.

[Ryan]

Me call up all the girls. Yeah, we would have them gotta work tonight.

[Mike]

No, no, Justin would be stole.

[Ben]

They can be there. They can be there. But they would just like we would be so having the best time ever, like trading off.

[Ryan]

We could all carry around our own TVs in there.

[Mike]

Yeah, everyone bring their own TV to CJ's house.

[Ben]

I mean, it's not even that hard anymore.

[Ryan]

13 year old me is like vibrating electric.

[Ben]

And the Internet, that's the best part too. You know, we're. We're not in any sort of city area by any means. But now the Internet could probably handle six Xboxes, no problem for sure. Like where back in the day, one is pushing.

[CJ]

Mike, did your parents let you play violent video games? I feel like they wouldn't have let that.

[Ben]

No, they didn't. They didn't. And then I was just like, all right, just Call of Duty, it's all I want. And then they're like, all right, fair enough. And I'm like, I just play online. It's nothing crazy. There's like, it's not tainting me.

[Mike]

It's just like I just bullied online.

[Ben]

I didn't even get a part of that. I was actually, I would. Dude, I was scared to talk to people.

[Ken]

Like, how did you even play online? You had like dial up your house.

[CJ]

For the longest time.

[Ben]

Barely. If I was playing online, like no one could do anything. It wasn't actually dial up at that point. You're just like, yeah, I mean it was bad. But GTA was definitely behind closed doors type of.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I wasn't allowed to play GTA because you shot. I mean, I was allowed to shoot other army members.

[Ben]

It's as soon as. And then it's like the worst part is, okay, oh yeah, you, you play gta. Yeah, you can like drive cars, shoot guns and stuff. But then everyone's favorite thing to do ever was, yeah, you can get a hooker and then you can just kill them afterwards and then take their money. That was like, that was like the go to line. I'm like, that's so aggressive.

[CJ]

That's how you explain the game.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's how someone explains.

[CJ]

So like, what's, what's Grand Theft Auto? Like, oh, you go and get a hooker, you kill them and take their money.

[Ben]

I mean, they, they preface that you can drive cars and that's like, you.

[Ryan]

Know that the mom. It's awesome.

[CJ]

It's so fun.

[Ryan]

Like of, of propaganda of mom stuff. It was like, don't let your kids drink monster. It's for the devils and from the devil and then gta, you kill hookers and. Yeah, one other thing. There wasn't like smoking or any like, actually bad things.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

What's up with that? Monsters for the devil.

[Mike]

That's what it's like 666 in Hebrew. Like the monster logo.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

That kind of lady came up with something.

[Ben]

Surprised me. I don't know if she came up with it. Had to be, I think, I think like that once I like looked a little more into it. I'm like, maybe it is. And maybe they did do that. I hope they're not devil worshipers. I like the brand, but yeah, I did look that up.

[Ryan]

Like, so I drink Celsius now.

[Mike]

When I was growing up, anything that I couldn't do, I just had to go over to CJ's house and I could, you know, he's the older cousin. Pop Pop Tarts.

[CJ]

Candy.

[Mike]

Candy.

[Ryan]

Pop Rocks.

[Mike]

Pop Rocks. And then just like aggressive video games, right? So CJ introduced me to live. And so I sit down in his bedroom. Because you had a TV in your bedroom?

[CJ]

Too bad.

[Mike]

Which I also, like couldn't have. I sit down and. And he puts the headset on and he goes, all right, tell me what they're saying. They're saying this, this. Okay, now say this back. Just something so aggressive and vulgar. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, what am I doing right now? And he goes, talking.

[CJ]

That's what I mean.

[Ben]

I was okay.

[Mike]

What they say back? What they say back? Oh, this is what they said back. Oh, oh, go after their mom. Go out, say this, say this about their mom. Or like.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And then they would go, you sound like a 12 year old boy whose balls haven't dropped yet. And I'm like, okay, he's on to me. He's on me. He said, I'm a 12, I'm 10.

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah, it's good times.

[Ben]

I feel like either people can just like, they can do that or they not like they can talk on games or they can't. I just was like too non confrontational, dude. I follow some, some pretty funny streamers on that that do that. There's like this one guy who he pitches up his voice and then, you know, the way he speaks, he sounds like a kid, but also like he knows all the, he knows all the lingo. So he's like. Or roasting guys. Yeah. And it's so funny because he like sounds like a kid. They're like, Damn, dude, this 10 year old is like roasting you right now. And then there's this other Call of Duty dj, he's got this crazy soundboard, and so whenever anyone says anything, he has the best meme response to every single one. Like, he's. He's pretending to have, like, a big stream. He's just like, yo, guys, this. This guy's literally trying to, like, you know me, chat. Are you seeing this right now? And the guy's like, are you streaming? Like, oh, thanks for the hundred dollars here. A hundred dollars for ten meows. Does ten of them. And the people that are playing are like, dude, stop. People are making a good living. Twitch. Streaming. Trolling people on Call of Duty. It's insane. Like, dude, that's.

[Ryan]

I want to get one of those streaming race setups here. It basically as an excuse to play.

[Ben]

Video games because then I can work 100. Like, we need.

[Mike]

Let's get one.

[Ryan]

Like, would people watch a stream, you think?

[CJ]

No, no, but I think we would use it.

[Ben]

I think we would play it. No.

[Mike]

Four days, 100. Watch it. But I don't know if we should be. Oh, yeah, I don't think we should. Streaming. Well, I don't know. I don't. It's hard to say. What would. I don't know.

[Ben]

No, I don't.

[Ken]

Evan. Got Evan in one of those before he took him to Bristol.

[Mike]

Yeah, it wouldn't help.

[Ryan]

No, we should have just told him.

[CJ]

Where the right pedal was.

[Ben]

Dude, we should have put Micah in one of those before he spent 30k on a drift car. That's why I'm trying to get one. I'm like, people. I talked to some people that have, like, a true drift setup, and they're like, yeah, like, saved a lot of money with one of those, because then I, like, learned how to drive.

[Ryan]

But you already spent the money, so you might as well drive.

[Ken]

Here you go. You could have bought this instead.

[CJ]

Oh, $30,000.

[Ben]

I'd assume that one moves. Yeah. Full motion.

[Ryan]

Full motion. Stage five. Wow.

[Ben]

That's crazy. And I'm not talking. I'm not trying to buy a simulator at the same price of the drift car in place of the drift car, but.

[Ryan]

Well, I mean, you haven't driven your drift car just sitting out there in a snowb.

[Ben]

Yeah, true. Wait, we have banks of snow outside.

[Mike]

Mike, I think you should buy that.

[Ben]

Hell yeah, I'm not.

[Mike]

Send Mike the link. Send Mike the link just so he has that. Tonight at Friendsgiving, after a couple drinky.

[Ben]

Poos, I accidentally buy a $30,000.

[Mike]

I don't think it'd be on accident. I Think you got the space for it?

[Ben]

I'm not worried about the space. Hell yeah. I got the space for it just in Micah's office. I got space for it going, oh, that would be bad.

[CJ]

I was thinking you put at its house, but yeah, you can put it.

[Ryan]

In your other room at your other house.

[Ben]

Correct.

[CJ]

That's true.

[Ryan]

At the lake.

[CJ]

Then I'll use it. That'd be great.

[Ben]

Yeah, that'll be. I only go hop it in the sim, boys.

[Mike]

Dude, I. I have so much respect for these streamers. Like Kai. So good.

[Ryan]

They're so good. I always thought it was kind of a gimmick, but a lot of them.

[Ben]

Actually, it's not a lot of his name.

[Ryan]

Like, some of them are fantastic.

[Ben]

Yeah, I am. I show speed. Yeah. Jinxy I really like. He's kind of weird.

[CJ]

It's kind of on the come up. Yeah, I mean, like, streaming seems to be more of the new thing. I actually watched Nelk. They were doing like a live stream and I tuned into it and it's like, weird, not really doing anything, but you just kind of keep watching. It's really weird. You're like, something's gonna happen. There's something to it. The fact that it's live. I don't know. But. But if you were to tune into a YouTube video of someone doing nothing, you'd be like, yeah, not watching this.

[Ryan]

I'm kind of like live pd when they flip around to the cameras and nothing happens for 90% of it. But if you catch the 1% of gold.

[Ben]

And that's probably a big reason why people watch. I'm like, in. In between. Like, I think that if you're streaming, you don't have to have this big plan, you know, like, even our podcast isn't like that. You don't need to have this big, like, list of. All right, here's what I'm going to do. But you also. I remember when, like Andy Millinakis, he just is like, I'm going to stream all the hours. I'm awake. Just gonna stream the whole time. And it was really boring.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I mean, and even on the highlights.

[CJ]

It was too much.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. The whole, like, just stream everything all the time.

[CJ]

You gotta do stuff too. Like, these streamers are entertaining. They're putting into like a production. Like, they're planning their streams. Like it's a video grant. It's live. But, like, they have things that are going to come in that like they're gonna do on the stream. Like Kaisen out just did like a seven Days and he called it and they went to like I think it was an abandoned jail and he had like Drew Ski with them like Christian rock whatever name is like a bunch of just like other and like they're in their jumpsuits and they're living like they're in prison. Except it's live streamed and it's like pretty.

[Ryan]

Do they live stream 24 hours a day for seven pretty sure. That is.

[CJ]

I don't know, I didn't tune in.

[Ryan]

Like I say I don't have the time to do it but that is cool.

[CJ]

A dude that I actually I guess we all know him from the neighboring town that moved to la. Got in on that private school fella. Yeah, he was from private school but his tattoos all over his face now so he fit in perfectly as like I'm sure they did the casting and oh this guy's great. He's a nice guy too. So I'm sure it's perfect. He's got the look. Yeah, you got the look for that kind of like production I guess.

[Mike]

I wonder what it is like to stream and having that constant like I need to be entertaining feeling because the.

[CJ]

More you are so uncomfortable on live stream I'd be like this is boring. Like I don't want to bore people.

[Ben]

Wonder like you can lose your authenticism really fast because.

[Ryan]

Authenticism?

[Ben]

Yeah, authentism.

[Mike]

I think you have authenticism.

[Ben]

I think I do too when you, you can lose that really fast because the more extra you are the more donations. I mean it's like the more entertaining you are the more donations. So your low moments have no donations. And then you're doing something, you're like I don't even know what I was doing. It wasn't even like something I normally do but I got a bunch of.

[CJ]

Dumb like this height.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[CJ]

It's kind of like like when we film with someone who's not used to being on camera like they're ready to like ride a dirt bike off a cliff. Like I don't care, I'll do anything. Because you get all jacked up from the camera. Yeah, it's like kind of that same I'm sure in like even more so because now you have people watching live so you're like I don't even have a chance to think about. I think it's, it's a big, big thing that is only going to get bigger though. We got to do it.

[Mike]

Aiden ross is making 10 million bucks a year from Kick.

[Ben]

Oh but he's a Kick. I'M pretty sure he's a punk, though.

[Mike]

Aiden Ross. Yeah, I think they all are, man.

[CJ]

Oh, is that just a salary? Because they do like deals with them. So you're not even getting paid for like, like, I'm sure obviously you have like how many streams you have to do, but they'll like pay you up front. I mean, they're getting paid more than.

[Ben]

Like pro athletes making more than like movie stars.

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah. Live streaming. But they're pretty entertaining. They know how to do it. There's art to the craft for sure.

[Ryan]

It does surprise me. I'm sure it's once you get your credit card info in and stuff like that, it's a lot easier and you're paying for like a shout out, stuff like that. But I just, I could not see watching television or a video and being like, I want to just throw in a dollar here. I just want to throw in a dollar here.

[CJ]

I could see Mike doing it though.

[Ben]

Throwing in a dollar.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Or live streaming.

[CJ]

No, like when you're watching a live streamer and you start donating for some.

[Ben]

I never have.

[Mike]

But if you were watching none of that.

[CJ]

You're watching though.

[Ryan]

But I think, I think David did it for that Harry Mack guy who's a rapper. And then he got a song with like the things that he suggested. So that's kind of cool. I think he was freestyling, bro.

[Ben]

I forgot that's kind of a lot.

[Ryan]

Pay five bucks for that.

[Ben]

A lot of Omegle streamers as well. So again, they're streaming or streaming on whatever platform they choose. Omegle, as far as I know, just shut down. My boy Harry Matt.

[Mike]

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

[Ben]

So my boy Harry Mack, he's always on there. He makes Omegle bars. He just came out with his number, right? Omegle, I don't know. I've heard. I've heard both.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Ben]

But they. That's like one of his bigger things. Like he does a bunch of stuff but just no longer. Just can't do anymore. Someone will come out with another thing.

[Mike]

But thing that would. You'd pop up random people and then like half the time they were like.

[Ben]

A lot of Jack.

[Mike]

Super like perverted guys.

[Ryan]

90 dicks.

[Ben]

That's the other crazy part is I just saw like. Yeah, like a tweet or something that was just like the amount of. The amount of underage people who've been flashed on Omegle.

[CJ]

Yeah. Saying they've been around a long time. I remember going on Omegle back before, like computers Had a camera. So like I had a buddy who had a frickin actual webcam. Oh, $30 webcam you get from Best Buy and plug in the usb. And like he was who introduced me to it and it was like funny. You know, we'd like play pranks and shit.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

People. I do remember that. Like buying a separate webcam just so you could go on it.

[Mike]

So what's going on with these guys that are sitting there jerking off?

[CJ]

Like something they got a weird kink about.

[Ben]

We don't talk about them like what?

[Ryan]

What do you want?

[Mike]

But no but like what are they hoping like what's going on?

[CJ]

What are they get off because they're flashing themselves.

[Ryan]

We were all like. When I did it, it was probably like, oh, we might see a girl on here that we can.

[CJ]

That too. Yeah. Like when you go on, you're like hoping to like get like a chick.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

As a kid. Yeah.

[Mike]

Mike. But I mean we don't talk about.

[Ben]

No, no, that was the thing ever. Because everyone was always like what's up with the 80% of people on there just with their dicks out?

[Mike]

Is it that much?

[Ben]

Not at the time. Like if you were to like not now at the time. And why would you even take that risk to go. And we were all. It was just like a very normal thing. Yeah, you're just like just skip.

[CJ]

Yeah, you get used to it.

[Ben]

You would get used to. Yeah, that's the thing. It's fun to troll people on there. You would never stop on the guy with his dick out and be like, let's troll this guy.

[Mike]

Really?

[Ryan]

You wouldn't react, dude, Funny.

[Ben]

No, cuz they also.

[Mike]

You just kill that guy's boner.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[Mike]

Like if you did it right. So then it's like fun.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ken]

And then just out of. Have you accidentally click skip on the one chick, right?

[Ben]

No, but it was fun when you like met like another group of people on there. Like, oh yeah, we're just. We just got home from the football game.

[Mike]

Dude, I love socializing, bro.

[Ben]

I do always love it. And the craziest part, me and random people that when I was a kid, I mean that's not what I love. But when I was a kid I was so shy, dude. I was so shy. I was like, grab my mom's leg, hide behind it. Shy. And then when I was like too old to do that. Still just do the same thing. But I was just.

[CJ]

Just bigger.

[Ben]

Don't want to talk. I don't want to talk to anyone.

[Ryan]

Interesting.

[Ben]

Just bigger.

[CJ]

I Do the same thing, just bigger. Mom's leg.

[Ben]

Yeah. No, once your head gets butt level, you can't do that.

[Mike]

So then what? Does she, like, start punting you off or what?

[Ben]

No, she just said you need to not be so shy.

[Mike]

Oh, really?

[Ben]

No one wants.

[Ryan]

And you were like, nice. Okay, cool. Yeah.

[Mike]

So then what?

[CJ]

So wearing purple pants.

[Mike]

I don't know. I mean, you're wearing purple pants, you don't have a chance, or you don't have a choice but to be outgoing.

[Ben]

I don't know, but I really, truly became outgoing when we started this channel, the YouTube channel. I was like, super sociable before, but now with the YouTube channel, now it's like to me, I like nothing matters besides just like, being the most best person, the best talker, the best listener that I can be.

[Mike]

Why? Because more people come.

[Ben]

Because of the experience? Yeah. Yeah, because of the experiences. And like the. I mean, like I said, you know, heydays, we talk to a thousand people in one day. Who does that on the average?

[Ryan]

Incredible gift.

[Ben]

So I've chalked a lot of life experiences up, especially us being like, Midwest nice to awkward scenarios where it just takes someone to have some initiative. A lot of situations in life, like, you're being a little nice saying something to me, and then I'm being a little nice, and it ends up getting twisted. And then no one gets anywhere because we were being too polite or like, not speaking our mind in fear of being slightly rude.

[CJ]

The less that you can care about what people think about you, probably the happier you'll be. But everybody cares about what people think of them in, to some degree.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

A tough battle.

[Mike]

What else we got? Anything? One more.

[Ben]

Someone renamed our shop.

[Ryan]

I guess I asked some of the suspects around here because. Ken, weren't you convinced that someone was rumaging through our mail?

[CJ]

I got a theory.

[Mike]

No chance.

[Ken]

Verify a Google business location. Google mails a card to the address of that location.

[CJ]

So you think every day someone would come by and. And hopefully find that.

[Ken]

So the only thing that makes me think that is last week I got a. A mailer from Google that said, thank you for verifying your Google business location.

[Ben]

Are we going to say the new business?

[Ken]

That's the only reason why I think somebody, like, rummaged through our mail for a couple days. Or it's somebody in this room.

[CJ]

It's not any of us. What if it's your. What if it's. What if it's one of the mail guys?

[Ken]

Could be him too, but I don't think so.

[Ben]

That and it always confuses me too because I remember one day we got a stack of them. Let's say we got nine. And. And it said like Big Ken's Barbecue and Faux Massage. The Sore Nipple Boys. A bunch of like I can't remember.

[Ken]

Dirt Bike Daycare.

[Ben]

Daycare, two stroke mics, two stroke Repair, you know, just random stuff. And I got a whole stack of them. And that's what it is Google saying verify that this is your business. And then I throw them all in the trash because obviously none of them actually are. I'm not going to verify but just.

[CJ]

Just to like be clear to the listener what this is, is so in on Google I guess you can go to like an unclaimed business or just in general you can create a location and name the location. So some kid or multiple people have found the shop and they will create a location and they'll make a funny name as it. And then it's under their account or whatever and we can't seem to get rid of it.

[Ben]

Weird.

[CJ]

So anyways, there's a new one and it is called Ken's Male Strip Club and Vape Therapy. And it's pretty aggressive. Prior to that it was Ken's Barbecue and Foot Massage. Which is hilarious. You know, little taste.

[Ben]

Which is. That's funny to play on an old me.

[CJ]

It's funny the male strip club part, a little tough man. And the vaping.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Because people gotta drive by, you know, and like local people see that, local.

[CJ]

People and they probably think like oh, they did that. Yeah, that's the only thing that I really care about. But like I don't really care about the other stuff.

[Ben]

But that is the most insane part that for somehow it's like the wild wild west of Wikipedia back in the day when you could just go on Wikipedia and stuff. That was only for a small moment, but that's how it is. Someone adds whatever they want, I guess to the business. I don't know if you, I don't think you can do this anymore. But they do. And then it just upload updates on all of Google Maps and Apple Maps across the crazy world.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ken]

You know also you can put any phone number in there. They don't verify that really.

[Ryan]

A problem.

[Ken]

That somebody put like some random person I think must been their friend. And I get emails from that kid occasionally. Like these people keep calling.

[Ryan]

That's funny.

[CJ]

Damn. Backfired.

[Ken]

Sorry.

[CJ]

Listen man, I'm. I'm an innocent bystander in this too.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

But I did talk with Google. I didn't talk with them. I emailed with them. Brian's tight with Google and they have like a legal department that's a third party. And that third party legal department is working on getting our shop address verified as a verified location. So nobody else can alter it other than our account.

[CJ]

Wow. How long take?

[Ryan]

Hopefully not too long. And then when you do it, it will like trigger a notification that someone's trying to falsify in a location. And then your account from Google could get suspended.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Ryan]

So don't. Unless you have. Then maybe just change it to something a little don't mess around Clubby and vapey.

[CJ]

Yeah. Or you could just change it back to big guns, barbecue and foot massage. That's funny.

[Ben]

I think that's the one we would take. Cuz other than that I was like, well, once we get a hold of it, it probably may just go seaboise tv. Yeah, it makes the most sense. Just put her at T Boys TV hq. Not very funny, but makes the most sense.

[Ryan]

Most sense, yeah.

[Mike]

You think it's one of us though, Ken?

[Ben]

That was funny when you.

[Ken]

This camera just died.

[Ben]

But the way you darted your eyes around and pointed, I was like, whoa.

[Ken]

You know other people. There's been other instances where people have denied claims and then they suspiciously a little bit later they're like, oh, that was actually me.

[Mike]

Oh, like stealing the camera?

[Ken]

No, like, you know, moving the limo. Like, people denied that.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, I got you guys good with that one?

[CJ]

Dude, I just tell Ken you're the one who made the list.

[Mike]

Change it back.

[Ben]

Sorry.

[CJ]

Yeah, Come on, dude.

[Ken]

You know you can never be too trusting around here.

[Ryan]

I guess I'll give them that.

[CJ]

You can't be too trusting in anything.

[Ryan]

That's true.

[CJ]

In life.

[Ryan]

That's true.

[Ken]

You always got to be. You always got to be suspicious.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Keep your always close enemies closer. And your YouTube business partners always stay suspicious.

[Ken]

Your car keys are the closest as you possibly can.

[CJ]

Matthews, he's like teaching his kids one day. Now remember, kids always be dropping them off at school.

[Ben]

Okay, dad, we will.

[CJ]

Teachers telling them, I don't trust him.

[Ben]

The teacher's like, what got into you, Davis? And he's like, I'm extra sus today.

[CJ]

You say Davis.

[Ben]

Davis.

[Mike]

Davis Matthews.

[CJ]

That's pretty good.

[Ryan]

Top of your head. First child's name go. Tyler. Yes.

[Ben]

Let's go, dude.

[Ryan]

Tyler Matthews.

[Ben]

Tyler Matthews.

[CJ]

Not bad. Pretty good name.

[Ryan]

I like it.

[Mike]

Pretty white name right there.

[Ryan]

There.

[Ben]

All right, Ben.

[Mike]

Go Dylan.

[CJ]

Jonah.

[Ryan]

I got Hugo, bro.

[Ben]

You're Sailor.

[CJ]

You really thought about this, huh? Mike?

[Ben]

I thought about it once. Once. Ken said, tyler, sailor, growing up and wearing purple pants. Sailor.

[CJ]

Wait.

[Ryan]

Sailor.

[Ben]

Ryan, go.

[Ryan]

How do you spell it?

[Ben]

Either one.

[CJ]

Is that a girl or a guy?

[Ben]

S, A Y, L, O, R.

[Mike]

You.

[CJ]

Could have heard a pin drop after Mike said his name.

[Ben]

I said both. It could be both. It could be either.

[CJ]

Is that a name?

[Mike]

That's like calling somebody like yacht.

[Ben]

No, that's. That's like calling somebody like August or like Sunday, but you got to spell it weird.

[Mike]

Is Sunday a name now?

[Ben]

Probably. Dude, everything's a name at the worst.

[CJ]

Day of the week. You're going to name your kid after that. Sunday. No, it's not Sunday.

[Ben]

You like Mondays better than Sunday.

[CJ]

That's true, that's true, that's true, that's true. Very true, very true.

[Mike]

Sunday. All right, Ryan, you go like.

[Ben]

All right.

[Mike]

I'm feeling that one out.

[CJ]

Yeah, he like had that and him and Sydney were planning that name.

[Ben]

Yeah, Lucky was first thing that came to mind. Not what you actually want to do.

[Ryan]

Brian.

[CJ]

Brian's son, Brian. Great. All right guys, thanks for listening.

[Ben]

Shout out to all the Brian's out there.

[CJ]

We'll see you next week.

[Mike]

All of our kids one day are going to be like, daddy, am I a meme?

[CJ]

Yes.