Cleetus McFarland, Westin Champlin, & Heavy D x CboysTV

Summary

Life Wide Open with CboysTV — Episode Summary

Cleetus McFarland, Westin Champlin, & Heavy D x CboysTV

Date: January 30, 2024

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Episode Overview

In this special episode, the CboysTV crew broadcast from a snowy Utah cabin, joined by three legendary YouTubers: Dave "Heavy D" Sparks (Diesel Brothers), Cleetus McFarland, and Westin Champlin. The conversation travels from wild YouTuber collaborations and behind-the-scenes mayhem, to business insights, parenting reflections, and hilarious misadventures with vehicles, snowcats, and monster trucks. The group dives deep into the realities of internet fame, the evolution of their channels, and what it truly means to chase your passion—on and off camera.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off: Snowed-In, Conspiracies & Collab Culture

• [00:45] The crew jokes about this being one of the coolest podcasts ever recorded, gathered in Utah for a "snowed-in weekend" at Heavy D's cabin.
• The podcast opens with wild banter and rapid-fire jokes, including the "Cornbread Mafia" Long John Silver conspiracy.
• Reflects on the uniqueness of a YouTuber mashup where collaborations feel organic, not forced.
  Heavy D: "It can't be forced. It's gotta be organic and natural. ...I wanted to collab, but let's wait till we do something awesome." [03:28]

2. YouTuber Dynamics & Breaking the Ice

• [04:13] Discussing how meeting personalities in real life is often better than expected, and “imaginary beef” between creators is usually fueled by fans. Heavy D: "You meet these dudes and ...there’s no imaginary beef and we all have similar interests. Content just flows." [04:55]
• Behind-the-scenes of video making: constant mechanical failures, chaos, and the reality that everyone struggles to make content happen.

3. Vehicle Carnage & Snow Adventures

• [05:43] Westin recounts the misadventures of bringing his Ranger monster truck, which promptly breaks down, much to everyone’s amusement.
• Cletus and Heavy D discuss vehicle recoveries, snowcat builds, and the creativity required to keep “the show on the road.”
• The group debates their favorite vehicles from the trip, ranging from Hellcat Jeeps to snowcats to retro buses.
  Favorite Vehicle Roundtable:
  • Ben: "The bus... PRP seats, sound system, it didn’t break." [10:45]
  • Westin: “I love that Jeep... things with Hellcat just tickle my heart.” [11:08]

4. YouTube vs. TV: The Business of Content Creation

• [13:51] Heavy D reflects on his unusual jump from YouTube (2013) to TV (Diesel Brothers, Discovery) and back to YouTube, unpacking the different expectations and experiences. Heavy D: "YouTube doesn't want anything planned, prepared, polished. They want what’s going to happen next... I hope the guy filming doesn’t even know." [15:31]
• Insights into doing business on YouTube vs. TV—freedom, pacing, financial swings.

5. The Giveaways Industry & Business Innovation

• [63:16] Deep dive into vehicle giveaway promotions—Heavy D details pioneering the giveaway model and how it became an industry standard.
• Westin and Cleetus discuss their own forays into merch and giveaways, and how the customer habits and saturation have evolved.
  Heavy D: "We pioneered an industry... for the last 10 years vehicle sweepstakes have been huge." [63:54]

6. Parenting, Fame, and Values

• [36:33] Reflections on raising kids while navigating internet fame and financial success.
  Heavy D: "The thing about kids... you see different parts of yourself in your kids... Sometimes you just wanna step in, but they need to figure it out themselves." [36:33]
• Challenges in keeping kids grounded when they're growing up around helicopters, travel, and luxury that's worlds apart from the creators' own origins.

7. Mormonism & Utah Culture

• [52:55] In-depth discussion on Utah, Salt Lake City, and heavy Mormon population.
  Cleetus: "Some of the greatest people I know are Mormon... just the values and pureness." [53:39]
• Heavy D describes the Mormon missionary experience and how it instills work ethic and shapes success.

8. YouTuber Wisdom: Longevity, Balance, and Authenticity

• [40:47] Advice about the nature of success, authenticity, and embracing mistakes.
  Heavy D: "Now's the time to have those experiences... Real wealth and prosperity happens in your late 40s... Don’t worry about getting rich." [40:47]
• Candid stories about lawsuits, the downside of visibility, and why some millionaires keep a low profile.

9. Live Events, Freedom Factory, and Crowning Achievements

• [70:37] Cleetus recounts the creation of the Freedom Factory and the joy of hosting live events tailored to car and racing fans.
• Discussion on the complexities (and perils) of organizing live races, from Cletus & Cars to pay-per-view.
• Dreaming up future events: from races on lakes to snowed-in triathlons.

10. Hilarious Vehicle Stories & Law Enforcement Run-ins

• [108:00] Westin shares about driving his monster Ranger on public roads and getting pulled over by Bob, the local trooper. Westin: "Bob is a dick of justice in town, you know. He is very fair, but you are going to keep my road safe, damn it." [112:17]
• Spirited tales about building (and breaking) wild vehicles, surviving monster truck stunts, and creatively skirting the law.

11. Underrated YouTubers, Shout-Outs, and Camaraderie

• [115:26] Each guest shares an underrated YouTube channel worth checking out—ranging from burnout specialists to C90 Adventures.
• Universal appreciation for the unexpected chemistry, humility, and sheer fun of an unfiltered group hang at the cabin.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Heavy D ([15:31]): "YouTube doesn't want anything planned, prepared, polished. They want what’s going to happen next... I hope the guy filming doesn’t even know."
• Cleetus ([53:39]): "Some of the greatest people I know are Mormon. They just like the values that you guys have and the pureness."
• Westin ([112:17]): "Bob is a dick of justice in town, you know. He is very fair, but you are going to keep my road safe, damn it."
• Heavy D ([16:02]): "If I do something, I gotta be all in 100."
• Heavy D ([63:54]): "We pioneered an industry... for the last 10 years vehicle sweepstakes have been huge."
• Westin ([13:32]): "When we first started doing YouTube, my brother's like, don't pretend to be somebody else—it’s hard to remember how to pretend."
• Heavy D ([40:47]): "Now's the time to have those experiences... Real wealth and prosperity happens in your late 40s... Don’t worry about getting rich."
• Cleetus ([75:39]): "You made it super relatable. Anybody can go buy a two thousand dollar Crown Vic."
• Heavy D ([17:01]): "You go cast one bad show or you let a show get canceled early or whatever, you’re gone."
• Westin ([112:46]): "Bob was asleep. Bob don’t work night. It was nighttime. Bob was asleep."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:54] – Collab Culture, Organic Collaborations
• [13:51] – TV vs. YouTube: Transition Lessons
• [36:33] – Parenting as Influencers, Passing On Values
• [52:55] – Life in Utah & Mormon Mission Stories
• [63:16] – The Vehicle Giveaway Industry
• [70:37] – Creation of the Freedom Factory, Live Events
• [75:39] – Relatable Racing and Accessibility
• [92:48] – Annual Cabin Trip Reflections, Invitation for Future
• [100:01] – Favorite Vehicle Recap/Discussion
• [108:00] – Westin’s Monster Ranger Traffic Saga
• [115:26] – Underrated YouTuber Shout-Outs

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Closing Thoughts

The episode stands out for its open, unfiltered look at what it’s really like to be a top creator in the automotive world. Listeners get business insights, technical nerd-outs, stories of legal limbo, reflections on family and faith, and plenty of raw laughs. The episode's real strength is authenticity—just as each panelist preaches, it’s not about chasing trends but staying true to your roots, passions, and circle. Whether you tune in for wrench-turning tales or YouTube strategy, there are takeaways for creators and fans alike.

Final Word (Cleetus, [117:43]):
“Thank you guys for watching. Thank you guys for coming on the podcast. We love you and we'll see you in the next one. Hell yeah, brother.”

Transcript

[A]

All the people that watched our YouTube channels listen to this podcast.

[B]

This is.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I have zero ability to calculate risk. What do you want to do?

[A]

I imagine my kids will be sitting there like, yeah, see why dad was broke?

[E]

First minute of flying a helicopter. There's no way I could have controlled it and not crash in the first minute.

[D]

2016, 2019, where I was seeing a new lawsuit on my desk once a month.

[A]

This is weird.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, this is not.

[F]

This is your first podcast.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I've never been on one.

[F]

Oh, dude, what an honor.

[D]

It's so great talking to. Hearing yourself.

[A]

Is this how Joe Rogan feels?

[F]

Yeah, every.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Say Sunday. Sunday. Sunday.

[A]

Yeah. Bald and wisdomy.

[F]

You get on, you start talking about aliens.

[A]

Have you guys heard of the Cornbread Mafia?

[F]

No.

[A]

Like, seriously, I think it's a thing because, like, why is every Long John Silver still in business but no one's ever there?

[F]

A good question.

[A]

Because they think it's a money laundering for the Cornbread Mafia. That's a thing. That's like an actual, like, thing.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

Well, I think it's like a thing of everyone thinks there's like, a Cornbread Mafia, that they made a lot of money selling, you know, a certain, like, what's. It's not grass, but it's something like that, you know, and they dump all their money into Long John Silvers.

[F]

Are we getting into conspiracies already?

[E]

Talking about.

[A]

No, seriously, this is the thing.

[D]

No, I'm. I'm curious what's been going on?

[B]

And by the way, you can. You can say drugs.

[A]

Wait, you can say drugs?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so they sell drugs, right? And they take the money from the drugs, they put it into Long John Silvers.

[E]

George, what do you know about the Cornbread Mafia? Because he just brought that up. And that's your email, right? I thought you made that up.

[A]

Dude, he looks like. Like a. What do they call it? Like a capo or something.

[F]

Look at him.

[A]

Look at him. Oh, he is. He doesn't want to come sit down with us.

[E]

You just uncover something, dude.

[A]

George is real antsy right now. He walking back and forth.

[D]

The Cornbread Mafia is a homegrown syndicate's code of silence. And the biggest marijuana bust in history.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Okay, the biggest marijuana.

[D]

How many times do you think it was tons? Yeah.

[E]

12.

[B]

Okay, well, Monster Max weighs 15 tons, so I'm gonna guess that they sold.

[A]

A Monster Max worth of weed. That's a lot.

[F]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[A]

That's a lot of weed.

[D]

182.

[F]

182 tons.

[A]

Need like 10 cdls to move all that.

[C]

How? Yeah, how much volume is that?

[F]

Not 300.

[C]

And trying to be El Chapo here.

[A]

But think about the logistics. If you was doing it legally, £80,000 is. Hey, how. How many tons is that? I didn't pass math.

[D]

80,000 pounds? 40 tons.

[A]

40 tons. So two and a half truckloads.

[D]

Five truckloads. Each truck can gross 40 to 50,000 pounds.

[E]

Yeah, but it depends on the volume, like the size per weight, you know, ratio.

[A]

How much like room does that take up?

[C]

0.

[A]

That fit in like a 53 foot van.

[F]

Anyway. All right, all right, guys, this is, this is definitely probably the coolest podcast that we've ever filmed. We are currently in Utah. We got invited to a snowed in weekend at this cabin. You can kind of see it in the background of the cameras right now by our good friend Dave Heavy D. You guys know him on YouTube. And you might recognize the other guy sitting over here. Weston Champlin.

[A]

Hello.

[F]

And then the guy over here, Cletus McFarland.

[E]

What's up?

[F]

Quite the crew sitting here.

[E]

Yeah, we got a good crew.

[C]

I've heard that it's the cloud on this couch. Seriously.

[B]

And to think that it isn't everyone here.

[A]

Yeah, no more. There's way more down there.

[D]

Yeah, no, there's definitely some heavy hitters. And what's cool about this is I don't know if you guys see this on your channel, but we get it a lot. You should collab with Seaboys. You should do something with Weston. You should do like, you know, all the fans want something to happen, but at the same time, it can't be forced. It's got to be organic and natural. Because you see forced collabs and it's like you guys were scratching the bottom of the barrel coming up that idea with us. It's just like, hey, we're doing something really cool. And so I knew that we wanted to collab, but for me I was like, let's wait till we do something awesome.

[F]

No, this made sense. And honestly, dude, we are honored to be invited to this group. Like, thank you for letting us be a part of this because it is so cool. We watch YouTube, we're fans of you guys and everyone downstairs. So it's really cool to just be able to be in the same room and, and make videos and honestly just shoot the with everyone.

[D]

Well, Cletus and I were talking a little bit ago, running around in the snow cap and we're like, it's so cool to Meet the other personalities on YouTube and have them be cooler than you expected. Because you always. I don't know what it is about YouTube, but there's this thing where successful YouTubers have imaginary beef with other YouTubers.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

And, like, they don't even know why. The fans kind of create it and fuel it. So you don't know what to expect from people when you meet them. It's like, we could have grown up together. I could be a se. Boy. Yeah.

[E]

We were like. We were like, why did we not hang out with them sooner?

[F]

Hey, that's what we were talking. Take you in, bro. We will take you.

[D]

The town of Cormran. Cornbread.

[F]

Oh, man, the. The town of Cormorant. I don't know if they'd be ready for you, but we'll take you in, bro.

[D]

When you meet these dudes and you find out that they are cooler than you expected. Not douches. You know, there's no imaginary beef. And we all have similar interests. It's. Content just flows naturally. I mean, you don't have to plan anything. Nothing was really planned. We just kind of go out and do our thing and stuff just naturally falls. It's easy.

[F]

I think the coolest part about this weekend is seeing the. The process that everyone has to make these videos. We thought that we were a mess, but it's so nice to see that everyone is just struggling to just get through whatever's going on because everything breaks, everything goes wrong. We're just trying to make these videos, and it seems like most of the time, the world is not on our side. So it's nice to see that you guys kind of have the same process.

[A]

I kind of feel attacked here.

[E]

Yeah, everything has to break.

[F]

Yeah, everything does break. Yeah. So you brought your Ford Ranger monster truck.

[A]

Let's not talk about.

[F]

Yeah, how did that go?

[A]

You know, I. I might as well just built the thing here. I might as well. Like you did. I did. I did. I got here the first day, didn't work. Loaded on the trailer, took it to town, took it to a shop, put a starter on it, fix fuel leaks, all kinds of stuff. Still, I mean, it worked, I guess, but it kind. We're not going to talk about it. It's not great, but it. It made it a long ways. It got stuck. And the thing is, is I'm just, like, natural. I'm good for recovery videos because, like, I just got stuck, like, 14 times today.

[E]

Yeah, I saw Dave snatching the Ranger with the Jeep harder than I've ever seen A vehicle get snatched.

[A]

He was like mad at it. He's like this.

[D]

You kept it in park the whole time? No, I'd look back and I'm pulling you backwards and your front. Your wheels are turning forward.

[A]

Well, no.

[D]

And Roman. Roman just gives up. I saw Roman trying to warn you a couple times and he's just like, ah, whatever. We just snatched in the park, dude.

[F]

Honestly, I. I take back what I said about everyone because you haven't had anything go wrong because all of your stuff is so dialed.

[A]

Everything.

[F]

Everything that you have going on, dude, is so dialed.

[D]

I don't know about that, but I've got a good team.

[F]

You have a great team.

[D]

I like break one of his things even. I had a really proud dad moment, like in the shop a week or so ago when we were building Cletus. Sandra. Because originally we were like, we're gonna throw tracks on it.

[A]

Right?

[D]

Just whatever. Just. We throw tracks on everything, but we never throw them on for the purpose of actually doing anything crazy. We just go up in the mountain, do a video, bring him down with Cletus's. We knew that he was going to push the car hard. So I just told my guys, like, hey, just adapt these tracks. And they were set of Can Am tracks and timber sled skis, dude. Let my guys at it for a couple of days and came back and I was like, dude, these are full blown race parts.

[E]

Like, they killed it. Killed it.

[D]

I was so proud. And it.

[C]

I think you may have the most destructive tally for the weekend.

[D]

Thousand percent. Yeah. I break everything.

[E]

I mean, let's not even get into that. That's a whole. That's a whole podcast. We get into the. The Dave Sparks annual tally up on damage to vehicles. It's incredible.

[F]

It is. It really is. Yeah, you back it up. He's been saying that. And then you just continue to back it up. But it's not with your stuff, which is amazing. Well, it's like everything that you have keeps just working flawlessly.

[D]

It's weird. It goes back to stuff being dialed.

[E]

Right.

[D]

It's not operator error. It's just the stuff's got to be dialed.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Rail seemed like it was working real good, dude.

[D]

Yeah. I did not.

[A]

Operator errors.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That rev limiter. Oh, God. It sounded good, though.

[D]

I don't think we were hitting the limiter. I think we were hitting the. We were getting super lean.

[E]

That was 100. The rev limiter that you were hitting non stop. Yeah.

[D]

That's just probably get hit early. Well, like the car Was missing a little bit. There's all sorts of problems with that car. There's no wonder.

[F]

I mean, it's a Sandra.

[A]

We're in the mountains. He's like, I don't like the color. It's ugly, dude.

[E]

He's running like junk. That's why the tracks ripped off 100.

[D]

If it was running better, it wouldn't have done that.

[F]

I was driving the. The Hellcat Jeep. On tracks.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Eight tracks.

[D]

Yep.

[F]

I'll be honest, dude. I was mobbing that thing.

[D]

That thing.

[E]

Everybody was.

[F]

It was.

[A]

You can just hold on. Run, run. Jump over.

[F]

Yeah, we're kind of blocking the way. I'm sorry. Yeah. But that thing was incredible.

[D]

I've never driven anything. I have driven everything there is to drive in the snow. Nothing compares to that Jeep.

[F]

And it just kept going. Like, I wasn't concerned about it getting stuck.

[D]

Nope. And it doesn't. It never overheats. Like, AMW 4x4 is the company that does that. They're building my Jeep right now. They're doing the demon engine with the big Whipple blower. So it's. I think it dynoed, like, 1100 horse or 1200 horse, something like that. So this one that we're driving has 700. It's just kind of a stock Hellcat motor. Probably a pulley and some tunes. But anyways, amw.

[E]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[D]

Got snowed in.

[B]

For those of you that are just listening, don't you dare.

[A]

I will. I will unsubscribe. Subscribe to Seaboys right now.

[E]

That wasn't.

[B]

All right. Was that our idea? Was that Evan who did that?

[E]

No, that was not Roman. I saw Roman.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[F]

Get up here.

[A]

Hey, which one's his bedroom? Get up here, you boomer.

[F]

Oh, no.

[A]

Isn't that his bedroom over there? Go throw it in his bed.

[F]

Gonna make a mess. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Should we be concerned about the electricity on the floor?

[D]

No, I say we just.

[E]

Don't worry about.

[A]

Everybody just kicked their feet.

[F]

Yeah, this is gonna be wet back up here. You're good.

[E]

Damn you, Roman.

[D]

Oh, Haley. You were in on it. You filmed it. You dirty little.

[C]

She actually grab a bucket and get rid of it?

[F]

I'd have to agree.

[E]

That's a significant amount of snow.

[A]

That is. Yeah.

[D]

We explained to the listeners, right?

[A]

That's above average.

[B]

I don't know.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

For those of you that were listening, they just got the middle couch. Got snow dumped all over Dave, Garrett, and Ryan.

[D]

There's snow everywhere right now. There's. There's a solid 12 inches of snow on the floor. No, I. I have a question, though. Out of all the vehicles, let's go around. Everybody give me your favorite and why, starting with you.

[B]

I'd say my favorite is the bus. I'm not trying to pump your tires. I know you just asked, but I, I climbed up inside, you know, it was a whole feat to do that in itself. And the PRP seats and the sound system and everything and. And the fact that it didn't break. That's my favorite.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Fo show.

[D]

Thank you. How about you?

[A]

Weston 1992 Ford Ranger.

[F]

No, no, I mean, you can't go wrong.

[A]

I'll be honest. That Jeep I love. I like, I just. Things with Hellcat just tickle my heart the right way and I just love it. And I gotta be honest, I. I did hit Hans with it earlier and I'm not going to tell you about that, but that thing is absolutely epic. I love that thing so much. It's got so much power and it's just like, we used it like, like probably 10 times to recover the Ranger today.

[D]

Cool thing is it has usable power. It's got a good range. There's no, like, you're not afraid to get it in any situation because you know, it's got the response and all the power.

[A]

Hey, that's what 6.2 L Hami will do for you.

[D]

You know, machine, dude, they kill it.

[A]

You just lean into it, go.

[E]

Wait.

[A]

It just winds itself away.

[F]

You're just whining, why you couldn't hear anything but the wine.

[C]

I love that there's two sides of Hellcat culture. Like, there's two different sides of the worlds that like hellcats. And I love how you hold it down.

[D]

There's the Atlanta crowd and there's a Kansas crowd.

[C]

Kansas crowd.

[F]

Sexy Red. Sexy Red loves hellcats. You should do something with her.

[E]

Have a song.

[F]

Oh, you don't know who Sexy Red is?

[A]

I'm not.

[F]

I'm not going to show him. Dude, CJ would be so fun.

[A]

My girlfriend's going to get mad about or what?

[F]

I don't know if she's going to be too worried about Sexy Red.

[E]

It's a hitter of a song. Hellcats. Srt. I mean it. Really? Really.

[A]

I'll tell you what, you know what's the coolest thing? Like for a long time I did like a lot of stuff and I never really leave my town that often.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Right. So, like, I live in a town of 12,000, so everybody already knows who I am before. Like, I did YouTube or anything. And then I leave. I'm like, wait, am I famous? Like what's going on right now? Because everybody's walking up to me like Buc EE's and Texas and stuff. And this guy like he is six. Yeah, it's Bucky. You know, this guy's like six foot six, dreads, walks up to like, dude, you that with the hellcat, ain't you? Give me a big bear hug. I'm like, hell yeah. Yeah, that's cool. So yeah, I don't know, it was just weird because like I started like doing videos like right around Covid thing, like covet happened. So everybody was staying at home. Nobody's going anywhere.

[F]

You've only been doing it for that long.

[A]

I don't know, like 20, 20.

[F]

I don't know, like three years. Like three, three. Going on four years.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah. Dude, you had like a really fast blow up, dude.

[E]

Yeah, you killed it.

[A]

I it, it ain't me. I had a really good team behind me, my brother.

[F]

It is you, dude. Like, I mean the team helps obviously, but like you just, you just have that personality that like everyone is attracted. I always say that. I wink at you.

[A]

Why'd you wink? That's made it weird.

[F]

Yeah, no, people just call me later. Love that personality.

[A]

That's the thing is like when we first started doing YouTube, my brother's like, don't ever try to pretend to be somebody else because it's hard to remember how to pretend to somebody else's. Be yourself. And I'm like, what happens if myself ain't funny? It's like, well then, you know, to be, you know.

[B]

Bright side is that's one thing you.

[F]

Don'T have to worry about.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm funny looking.

[D]

I'll be all right.

[F]

Dave, I feel like you've been famous for dude as long as I can remember.

[D]

Yeah, we've had a ride, man. We actually. I don't know if you guys even know this. Most people don't know that we started on YouTube. That's how we got our start, 2013.

[A]

And then it was at the Bathroom Prank.

[D]

We uploaded like three videos. The second or the third was the Bathroom Prank. That's one went, oh, the diesel one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What's the Bathroom Prank?

[D]

We had a buddy who was in the bathroom and we had a super duper smoky diesel pickup and we opened the bathroom window cuz he was in there taking a dump and backed the truck up with a garden or like a big 5, 6 inch flexible hose, pumped it in the window and then just hammered down. It smoked him out. So, like, he. He was black for days, like, couldn't get it off. So Jay Leno saw it, had us down on his show, and then we went down and. And then the rest is history with Discovery. So we only got to go maybe five or six videos deep on YouTube before we had to shift all of our attention to Diesel Brothers. In 2015, we didn't have any regular content, and. And the channel wasn't really even anything. My. My Heavy D Sparks channel didn't. I don't know if it existed or if it had, like, two followers or whatever, but in October 2020 is when we started doing YouTube. So.

[F]

Oh, man, can you imagine if you would have just stuck with it at, like, 2013.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

And. And not done the TV show?

[D]

You know, I think about that a lot. And the TV show took us down a road that I loved. There was a lot of really fun stuff, but I also didn't like it enough to keep doing it, which is why I went back to YouTube. But it was a good. Because it really helped us polish our skills on camera. Because you have to. You're repeating yourself over and over again. That was my biggest issue when we came back to YouTube was I was doing the TV show guys thing. And I still do, but I try to dial it back because I found that YouTube doesn't want anything planned, prepared, polished. They want what's going to happen next. I hope the guy filming doesn't even know. You know what I mean?

[E]

Like, that's.

[D]

That's the way that they. I found our viewers like it. So it's just worked better that way to be able to start in TV and move back to this, because now we can polish up our ads. Everything can be dialed in that way. But, yeah, we've been kind of on the radar since 2013, so you guys have killed 10 years.

[A]

It's done really, really well.

[D]

Thanks.

[A]

Like, the thing is, like, I remember you, like, started posting videos. I'm like, oh, that's cool. And then, like, I didn't pay attention for, like, two weeks. I look paid attention again. I'm like, oh, damn. Yeah, you getting after it, boy.

[D]

Yeah, we got. Once we got, I didn't want to do YouTube again until I could be consistent. So we had a ton of opportunities to do a video here, video there. I was just like, no, I'm not worth it, because if I do something, I got to be all in 100. So when we finally go all in, it was kind of like a Middle finger to Discovery, because I went to them first because they wanted to keep doing Diesel Brothers forever. And I just got tired of building trucks on the TV show. It's the worst. And so I was like, hey, these are other things that we do. Recoveries. And it's still Diesel Brothers stuff. And same vibe, same people. We're just out of the shop doing other stuff. Was like, nope, not going to work. We don't want to do it. It doesn't work. Stick with trucks. And so I was just like, oh.

[F]

They didn't think it was going to work, huh?

[D]

I don't know if they didn't think it was going to work. Discovery is just terrified to make any decisions because they have their box that they have to follow. It's like a format, right? This, this, this drama, pay high payoff, high stakes, blah, blah, blah. Every episode has to be the same and to break away from that. I think individually, all the people at Discovery know, but collectively, they can't make a decision to save their lives. And everybody's so afraid of getting fired because it just happens. That industry.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

You go cast one bad show or you let a show get canceled early or whatever, you're gone. Yeah. And so people are just too afraid to make decisions.

[F]

Dude, we had this guy come in and. And basically made us a pilot episode and like, pitched it to, like, Discovery, the Science Network. All these different.

[C]

Discovery.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

But anyway, so we have been doing YouTube for a couple of years there, like maybe three years at that point. So, I mean, nothing like big, maybe at a couple hundred thousand subscribers, but enough for, like, people to know what our personality was. And then we filmed the TV show and, you know, they just kind of script things and they tell you what to say, and it pretty soon turns into not your true personality.

[D]

Not at all.

[F]

And after, like, the pilot was filmed and edited, we were watching it back and we're like, this isn't us at all. And people are gonna know that it's not us, you know, versus you going from TV to YouTube, you know, but I think it'd be much harder to go from YouTube to TV because it's two completely different styles.

[D]

Yeah, it's going from YouTube to TV. Luckily, we didn't have enough time to get real situated on YouTube. We were just kind of. Dude, back in 12, 2013, nobody really knew what going viral was and nobody knew how to do it for sure. So we were. Didn't get too ingrained in that, because if we had, because we were already super reluctant to do the TV Show. I told Discovery no for six months. Like, no, not. We thought it was the guy at the mall with the card, you know, the talent scout. Hey, I'll make you famous. I'll make you a model. We thought it was like that, like just a scam. Said, no forever. And then finally they came in and said, all right, we guarantee you eight episodes at a minimum. Like, we're not just going to do a pilot and then leave you guys hanging because we had to invest quite a bit. That's what people don't realize. Anybody who does a TV show, their business becomes a TV show. It's no longer the house decorators, the house flippers, the truck builders. It's a TV studio.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

These small businesses have to put in a ton of money because Discovery doesn't pay very well at all. We started off at $3,000 an episode for our first season.

[E]

Really?

[D]

And the contract said you only get a 5% annual bump. That's what they put in there. But when the time comes to actually renew contracts and they go to give you that 5% bump, and if the show is successful, you just say, I'm good. I don't do it anymore. And then they're like, okay, what's your price? And so we did that every season. I got my. My rate up to. I think it was like 30 grand an episode for a while, which was decent, but the problem is you can only. We were only able to film eight episodes a year, so. Because it just takes so long to build these trucks.

[E]

How long did it take to film one episode?

[D]

Way too long. Originally, they had planned on filming an episode every three to five days. Found out it takes us about six weeks to do one. You have to build a truck? Yeah, you have to build a truck and trucks. You can't build it faster than you can build it. We were already hauling ass, and our quality in the first couple seasons was dog, because we're just rushing to get stuff done. Every truck that we built in the first three seasons, we brought back into the shop and rebuilt after the fact. Yeah. So it's. Tv was fun. I'm glad we did it. I wouldn't do it again.

[F]

Yeah, that's.

[D]

That's not true. Sorry. We have a spin off that we're working on, but it's with a difference with Netflix, and we have control.

[F]

I think. I think that you really, like, pioneered an industry, though, you know, And I think a lot of YouTubers right now have. Have you to thank for doing a lot of that, too. So that's Awesome.

[D]

I appreciate that. I would never view it that way, but I. I'm always the guy that was looking up towards other people that paved the way for me. And I'm now getting to that point in my life where I can kind of see both directions because I can see the progress. I can see how far I've come. Time. Time gives you results, no matter what, whether they're good or bad. Time doesn't lie. So I look back at the last 10 years, and I'm pretty proud of it. There's a lot of things I wish I could have done differently, and I probably would have, but for the most part, we got. We got out really lucky. Most TV people don't make it out alive. They go bankrupt and the show gets canceled or ran to the ground. We made it out alive and. And thriving. We're way happier on YouTube. Way happier. And we've grown like crazy. We got the best freaking viewers and followers. And my God, I was so traumatized being stuck building trucks that I didn't want to get stuck in that, you know, little niche again. So we went to YouTube. I made it very obvious that my content was going to be.

[F]

Was not that.

[D]

Yeah, all over the place. And you guys have seen it. It's literally one day we're buying an abandoned storage unit. Next day we're recovering a dead body. Next day we're. I mean, dude, it's just. It's just real.

[E]

Well, I thought it was interesting when you came to YouTube full swing.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You had, like, helicopters, insane trucks. It was like all of our YouTube channels started from, like, one vehicle. And, like, we were. We work on that. And, like, that was, like, our content. And you came in full swing because obviously you're already an established. You know, you're. And you already knew the recipe, so that was kind of a strange thing to watch. Like, you just came in full swing. And I see, like, there's rich guys who try and do this. Like, rich guys, they, like, have the best, coolest cars, toys ever. They're like, I'm a start a YouTube channel, and it just never works. But here comes Dave Sparks. Like, you knew the recipe, you had the toys, and yours worked.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, I remember the first snow trip. Was that four months after you started? Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was, huh? Yeah. Yeah. That's wild.

[E]

Yeah, it's just new to YouTube.

[D]

It was fun, and it still is fun.

[B]

I love it.

[D]

It's like we were doing last night, and we're, like, staring at thumbnails trying to Figure out what's going to get more eyes. Like, it has such an immediate payoff. It also has a terrible downside. You guys know the nines out of tens, ten out of ten videos? That's like a. Yeah, that's a kick in the dick.

[A]

Listen, dude, that's a bad system. I don't like that because, you know, it just gives you depression. Yeah, you gotta call your therapist. Oh, God. It does 100, but then it gets to number one. They have the little. Like the little confetti.

[F]

It makes it feel so good. Yeah, but like, that makes the number tens, you know, hurt that much more. I got this every high.

[A]

Imagine if the number 10 was just like a little sad face.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

People watching.

[E]

This because I sat down last night and I got thumbnail advice from Roman Atwood, Dave Sparks, the Sea Boys, and Whistling Diesel and Weston all at the same time. Yeah, I mean, when do you get that opportunity?

[F]

Oh, dude, we're sitting there. I wish. CJ's not here.

[A]

Love that.

[E]

Yeah. So basically, on YouTube, there's a thing where in the amount of time since you post your video, it tells you how it's competing against your last ten and my jumping the Sandrael number. Two out of ten.

[F]

Good.

[E]

You boys helped me with that.

[F]

Yeah, it's probably because you could see very clearly what was going on in the thumbnail.

[E]

Yeah, we. I mean, you had some good advice.

[A]

Yeah, well, I'm. I'm three out of 10, so I'm doing good. And I just now realized I haven't uploaded in 29 days. That's normal for me. Consistency is not my thing.

[F]

The last video we posted is the Lamborghini on Frozen Lake.

[A]

That thing was cool. I see. I've seen the thumbnail of it.

[E]

That's our number four out of ten. Four out of ten. Not bad.

[D]

Oh, hell yeah. We're three out of ten on the bus video. Yeah, we were on trending trending yesterday too, and we had another three out of 10. I saw it at 17. Somebody said it went higher, but I.

[E]

Didn'T see Westland was number one on trending yesterday.

[A]

You know what I got the for? I've been number two on trending, like a. A bunch of times.

[F]

The trending page. Unless someone YouTube.

[E]

What?

[C]

You for sure are.

[F]

What, are you jerking someone at YouTube?

[A]

Oh, I wish.

[C]

But you're always on trending.

[D]

Literally every video.

[A]

You know, like every video we posted in 23 got on trending. Like every. Every one. Every one of them, except for like two or three.

[E]

Does trending do anything anymore?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That was my next question.

[A]

It gives you a lot of impressions. Like it gives you a lot of.

[F]

Impressions but you know, but that might hurt you.

[A]

Yeah. Because your click through rate's gonna go down because you don't know if it's gonna be people that really.

[F]

Dude, this is such YouTuber right now.

[A]

But we all the, all the people that watched our YouTube channels listen to this podcast. This is.

[E]

Yeah, I used to be obsessed with my real time views, like constantly watching them. And when I would hit trending, I would get at least like a 20% bump in viewers instantly on the video. But now I don't think that exists.

[A]

You know, I don't watch real time views, so I don't know, I gotta kind of look at the analytics after, you know, five days or whatever. I'll be honest, my brother watches it way more than I do. He's like the behind the scenes man.

[E]

He.

[A]

This is really bad to say I've never uploaded a YouTube video. Like he's always uploaded every YouTube video.

[E]

Good. You have something also kind of cool.

[F]

It makes feel better.

[D]

What's your channel at now?

[A]

3.3723.

[D]

3.372.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's awesome.

[F]

What are you at, Dave?

[D]

I think we just hit 3. 5.

[C]

What? Are you still giving a helicopter away at 10?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's so crazy. I remember when you said he came out swinging or you go, I remember that. The first thing I go, holy. So cool.

[F]

I remember that. Yeah, dude, what are you going to do when they walk into your hangar and go, I want your black.

[D]

No, no, no. I'm going to say here's a, here's the helicopter and that's the one you.

[F]

Get so well, bro. And then cle's giving away a helicopter for the next race.

[A]

Wait, is that secret?

[F]

Oh, is that.

[E]

Well, when's this going to be out?

[B]

Is that secret?

[C]

It's not this Tuesday. Next Tuesday?

[E]

Oh yeah, you're good. Announced this week.

[A]

So I was getting ready to say that.

[E]

I'm like, oh yeah. The prize for the Freedom 500 is a helicopter.

[F]

Woo. Oh man.

[A]

You know, that makes me so sad that I'm not going to be there. Like, I like, you text me and you're like, yeah, and what? The prize is a helicopter. I'm like, oh God.

[C]

Can you fly a helicopter?

[A]

No.

[E]

Dave and I are the only two pilots in the whole racing field. So who, if anyone but him or I, wins it. Like they're just going to have to figure it out.

[F]

Can I keep it at your house or your house and then just fly with you?

[E]

Y.

[D]

Park it out here.

[F]

If I want to fly, or if I want to buy a helicopter, which I do after hanging out with you guys. Dude, is that like a. I'm so fired up just to be an aviator. Yeah, you guys just, like, fire me up in general, but, like, helicopters are at the top of my list of things that I want, dude.

[D]

Watching how capable all of you are to operate, kind of anything you'd be able to get your. If you had a helicopter, you could get your license in three weeks, really easy. I got my stuff all signed off in three. Three days.

[F]

Oh, no. Yeah, so but if. If I had a helicopter, I could fly it. Technically, with you being a pilot, like, you're flying it, and then I can fly with.

[D]

Well, you could fly helicopter.

[E]

Easy, though. Like, if you want the Freedom 500, you just have to have a CFI, like the certified flight instructor go with you, and then they. Every hour you're flying with a CFI counts towards your 40 hours minimum. You have to. Have to take the test to get your license.

[A]

So let's not talk, like, license or anything. Let's just talk, like, practical application. I got in a helicopter.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you think the likelihood I get that thing off the ground safely?

[E]

0%.

[A]

I know what the collective is. I know how it works. I know that. I've played Flight simulator.

[D]

No. Yeah, you. You'd get it off the ground. You'd be back on the ground in about six seconds. Not the way you want it to be.

[E]

It's. It's insane, because I honestly feel, you know, I'm not trying to be cocky. Like, I've just operated so many different things in my life, and I feel like I've got a really good handle on things I could not control. Like, I can honestly say in the first minute of flying a helicopter, there's no way I could have controlled it and not crashed in the first minute.

[A]

Is it just like that sensitive? It is.

[E]

It's just.

[D]

It does. It plays tricks on your brain.

[E]

Yeah. It's so hard to keep everything coordinated.

[D]

Depending on the model, they have a lag in response. So when you put a control input in, it could be almost like two seconds. Like some of the bell stuff. Like, they're so slow, like the BO105. And then all of a sudden, you look that direction and it's going that way, so.

[B]

Well, can you explain, like, the. What was the thing where when you're taking off from the ground. The air is pushing on the ground. So your controls are opposite.

[D]

In certain helicopters, yeah, you're flying a Frisbee. You're not flying the cockpit of the helicopter. So when you see the cabin of the helicopter, that is a ball hanging from a pendulum. It's literally just hanging from the rotor disc. So picture you're throwing a Frisbee. Tie a string to the bottom of it and let it hang a tennis ball from it. That's what you're flying. So really, you're tilting the rotor disc. And that's why. That's why it's such a different experience. And that's why it's. So as the pendulum swings, you think you're swinging, so you got to bring it back. And all that does is just accentuate it makes it worse.

[E]

We could let you try. I mean, we could let you try.

[C]

Listen, when I win the Freedom 500.

[E]

Dual controls in helicopter, right? Like, we could get in the helicopter. That's the prize for the Freedom 500 next week. And you guys could try. Very humble.

[C]

Be there after seeing Ben try to fly your RC plane. I ain't getting anywhere near that.

[A]

Can we change like a Cessna? I feel like I'd get a session.

[E]

Oh, you could try and fly the Cub.

[A]

I. I flown a Cessna. I flew a Cessna when I was like, 13.

[E]

When you're on your own, like, oh, it's someone. Everyone's got their hands up. No, no. Like, I'm. I'd be in there, but, like, when. If I was fully off the controls and said to all you. You would really be. It'd get sketch.

[A]

Yeah, let's not do that.

[B]

So would you say your experience flying planes before helicopters did. Did that correlate at all, like, RC stuff?

[F]

No, no, no good at rc.

[E]

I was helicopter than airplane.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay.

[A]

He wasn't one of them fixed wing guys.

[F]

Yeah, I. I want to get my pilot license for a plane. I think that'd be awesome, But I really don't know what I would do with a plane or where I would go with a plane.

[C]

You'd fly it.

[F]

I would, but with a helicopter, dude, I would.

[A]

I would Long John Silver take it.

[F]

From my house to the shop, and I would take it from our shop to the farm, and then I would go to the C store and land it in.

[E]

If you win the Freedom 500, come.

[A]

On down to the. That's 500 available in Bradenton, Florida.

[E]

So you're as good to see what the winner does with it. Like, are they gonna fly it Everywhere. Are they gonna sell it?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

They're gonna strap it to the ceiling of their barn, tear it up.

[E]

Imagine Cody wins it.

[B]

No, I was cracking up. When you said you're like, oh, I'm bummed. I'm not gonna be there. And I'm like, I'm bummed that we all suck at racing.

[F]

Yeah, that's the worst part. I know I'm not.

[A]

I. I suck at race, too, so it's fine. Hey, now, wait. How'd I. How'd I do for my first time out there at the Wallets? I pulled a Rockford in the middle of the race, and I was so proud. And it looks so lame on the live stream.

[E]

I remember blowing by you, and I was like, that, boy.

[A]

Scared that somebody else in my car.

[D]

I remember that, too.

[E]

I said that, boy, you were getting lapped.

[D]

You were very scared.

[A]

Well, you know, my seat broke off.

[F]

Yeah, dude, so did Ken. Hey, you and Ken.

[E]

That was a new seat bracket design.

[A]

You know what? I won't give you any grief about that. I won't give you any grief about that. But the. The seat kind of broke off, and it would have been great if the passenger seat would have been in there, because I could have put my hand up against it. But then I'm like, well, that wouldn't have been very safe had the passenger seat still in it. Well, but I've seen, like, how you guys prep your cars now versus you guys would go, like, beyond of what is needed. Probably not what's needed, but you guys go above and beyond to make them safe.

[D]

Dude, I spend that entire damn race like this with my hand on the. On the passenger seat.

[E]

Listen.

[D]

Just trying to hold my design flaw, dude.

[E]

One year design flaw.

[A]

We're all just roasting.

[F]

Honestly, at least you guys didn't pull off the track. Ken's seat broke, and he pulled off the track twice. Twice.

[B]

What's broken?

[F]

Well, he was on a cone one time. He pulled off, and then. And then his seat broke, and he pulled off another one. But Haley Deegan was his. His co racer, and she was actually like, she's a racer. Like, she's competitive. And she was like, what are you doing? Like, she was, like, mad, like, rightfully understood.

[E]

Yeah, understand, like, dude, there's an El Camino on the line right now.

[C]

Ken's like, I'm tired.

[E]

I did 1500 laps in one day. And that was as practice. We did, like. We tried to do a Mr. Beast video and did, like, isn't that. We did. Laughs for 24 hours straight, and it was really not good. Terrible.

[F]

Really? What. What do you feel after that?

[E]

It was absolutely miserable. Like, I torture. Mr. B says that his videos get really hard. I can't imagine how hard those get. The commitment that dude has to his content is insane.

[F]

I think the. The last one, when he was buried alive for seven days, bro. Like, that's seven. That's crazy. We spent 24 hours in an igloo, like, for a challenge. Like, that was our Mr. Beast. Yeah, dude. We had. We had one WI fi in there. We had the UFC fights going. We had a keg of beer. Keg of beer.

[D]

It was legit.

[F]

It couldn't have been set up.

[D]

The only thing we didn't have was.

[A]

Our phones, dude, you guys went on vacation. You're like, let's film a video, yo.

[F]

That sucks.

[E]

Like.

[F]

Like, we had luxury camping, and we were like, this is terrible.

[A]

We should have got a GoPro and set it up as. Like, as soon as we got here, like, we spent 72 hours on top of them mountain in Utah.

[E]

Every YouTuber gets, like, a wild hair every, like, year.

[F]

Like, you know what?

[E]

It's time to step it up. I'm going Mr. B style. Like, scrolls through his videos. Like, all right, this is what I'm doing.

[F]

I could do this.

[E]

I was like, 24 hours laps. This is gonna be cake, dude. It sucked.

[A]

Didn't it do well on YouTube, though?

[E]

I don't think he did very good now. I think it did average.

[F]

I think that's. That's almost. The thing is, like, people are like, no, you guys stay in your lane without going into Mr. Beast Lane. Like, even though it works so well.

[E]

For him, I did, like, the thumbnail, like, really done up.

[F]

You got the best of all of us, bro. You got it so dialed. You got your iPhone, you got George on iPhone, and you just running it, bro.

[A]

I think we're kind of just like, they're just too good.

[F]

They are.

[E]

You guys do have some pretty serious productions going on.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Dave gets after. I mean, we got. We got big cameras. We run about big cameras all the time. You know, GoPros, Sony's, all kinds of stuff. Gimbals, FX3s, drones, all that stuff. And then sometimes I'm still like, well, you know, all right, everything else is dead. So here we go.

[F]

They do work good. We have so many people hit us up, and they're like, I want to be a YouTuber. What kind of camera should I buy?

[A]

We're like, dude, that is the most Annoying thing.

[F]

You have a phone, pull it out, and then maybe see if you still want to be a YouTuber after you make a video.

[A]

I think the thing is, like, everybody walks up and it's like, I want to be a YouTuber, dude.

[E]

Go do it.

[A]

And then, like, people be like, well, I don't. I'm like, well, what could you do YouTube about? Like, we start going down, like. And then, like, yeah, but I. I'm like, well, okay, you don't really want to do it.

[E]

That everyone wants to be a YouTuber till it's time to edit.

[A]

Yeah, editing. Well, yeah, editing.

[F]

Editing is tough. Editing is, I think, makes or breaks a video. Dude.

[E]

No.

[F]

I don't know a single person that likes editing, but it's a crucial part of making a good video.

[A]

I don't think people enjoy editing. I think people enjoy the satisfaction of a good result at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's the feeling when you post it, dude.

[E]

Isn't that nice that, like, we have our whole. Whole life's documented. Like, our kids, if they, like, if we die, they're like, I can watch my dad's basically, like, majority of his life. That's crazy.

[C]

That was, like, kind of the selling point for us when we started. It was like, well, at least we'll have a video of whatever our weekend was.

[A]

I imagine my kids will be sitting there like, yeah, see why dad was broke.

[E]

And he really loved Rangers.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They blew that motor up. Blew that truck up. Caught that one on fire. Yeah, I see why he's real, bro. Couldn't pay child support.

[C]

So you are a father. You as well. Do you ever worry about, you know, like, every dad gets his payback, right? When his kid grows up and they start doing all the things that you did. Do you worry about that? Because you have no excuses when your child takes his first car and gets caught drifting somewhere? I mean, you. They could say they do it on my track.

[A]

Criticize this technique.

[E]

I tell you right now, my kid's gonna be a phenomenal driver.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[F]

After his kid.

[D]

No.

[C]

But yeah, like, I'm just saying, like.

[E]

The one time, encourage him to do all that stuff at the track. Hope.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't know, but that's what I'm saying.

[C]

Like, when they get in trouble or they, like, wreck something that they weren't.

[E]

Supposed to, you know, probably not gonna be a ton. I can say.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I mean. You don't have any real.

[B]

No leg to stand on there.

[C]

Yeah, no leg to stand on there.

[D]

Yeah. So one thing, I'm living what you just said, the whole watching your kids do crazy and drive you crazy. Kids are the best and they're also the worst. The thing about kids, though is each kid's different. I got three. My oldest is a girl and then two boys. You'll see different parts of yourself and your kids and the way they behave and there's really proud moments. But then you'll find there's times where you just can't stand your kid. You just wish he was somebody else's kid. Like, you cannot stand your kids because they just get real rotten sometimes. Like, sometimes sugar, you know, lack of sleep, whatever. Kids get shitty.

[C]

I've been.

[D]

And you'll catch yourself just like, oh, I hate. I'm so mad at this. And then I caught myself one day, I'm like, oh, all the things that he's doing right now that I hate are all the things that I do that other people hate about me. So I see my bad behaviors in them too. And you're just like, oh, it's actually good because it's a little bit of a mirror. And you can help them to not go down the path that you went. Like, if you're, if you have a certain personality trait or whatever it is that didn't work for you and didn't work socially, you can help them with that. But it's a double edged sword because you can want your kids to make mistakes. So it's this fine balance of like. My youngest son is like identical to me. He's a, He's a riot. But he's big.

[B]

Old beard too.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Four years old.

[D]

He's so stubborn and bullheaded though, that he, he can't play with anybody at recess. Nobody wants to play with him because they all invite him to do stuff, but he doesn't want to play with their playing. He's just got his mind set on doing something else. And so all I'm hearing as a dad is like, oh, my kid's not getting anybody playing with them at recess. Like, this is terrible. I don't want to be traumatized. You want to step in? Well, what happens when you step in? Then you solve the problem for them and they don't learn how to solve problems. So these kids have to. You, like, got to let them get bumped and bruised and, and so when they make these mistakes, go back to your question. I like it. It's. It proves that, that he's not a dud. Like, there's a lot of kids out There that have no desire to be mischievous. And I don't understand that because you have to be. Mischief as a kid is just extended creativity because they're not malicious. They're not being malicious at all. They're just trying to figure out how stuff works. So I want my kids to figure out how stuff works as risky and dangerously as possible, right before they get, like, super hurt. So I want to stop it there. It's a fine balance, though, man. It's not easy, but you'll. I can't wait for you guys to see your kids and. And see the things in them that you're like, oh, he got that from me.

[F]

Yeah, I have that.

[A]

Even I am a.

[F]

With my dad, dude.

[C]

Yeah, we get things the reverse side of it.

[F]

Things that, you know, I. I talk about my dad to my. My mom because we were late on that. And then. And then the boys are telling me that I do the same thing. And. And then I go, that's not that bad that my dad does that.

[A]

And I'm like.

[F]

I'm like, maybe I was just being hard on him.

[D]

You'll see it, dude. And it's. It's so weird when you get to my age. I'm 38, 39. Like I said, you're looking both directions now. As. As a kid growing up, you're just looking at what's next. Forward, forward, forward, getting older. As you start to get older, then you have that opportunity to look back because now you got these miniature use that are running around. It's a weird perspective shift. I like it. I like it a lot because I never understood why somebody was wise. Like, why do you go to somebody for advice, like an older person? Why are they wise? Why do they. Why does their advice matter? I'm starting to feel a little bit more wise. Like, I have knowledge and I have experience. That's wisdom, right? And it's a cool feeling because now you have all this experience under your belt. If you want to go do something, buy Blackhawk, you've got all this momentum, and it just happens like, it. Things happen so much quicker. Like real wealth and real prosperity happens in your late 40s. So many kids get so caught up on being rich in their 20s and 30s. It's like, slow down. Enjoy these years. Build that momentum. Get that experience. Don't. You don't want to look back, guys, and. And wish that you would have done something differently or wish that you would have been something differently. Do that now. Do that now, because now's the time to have those experiences. Later on is when the wealth just comes naturally because you've let yourself live. You met people, you made relationships, you earned, you learned skills. All these different things. Now's the time to do that. Don't worry about getting rich.

[F]

It comes easier with age, 1000%.

[D]

It comes easier because it's. You've done the same thing over and over and over again. It's repetition. It's muscle memory.

[E]

No, it works. Yeah.

[D]

Do you know what works? And you know yourself better in your. In your 20s? And even in my early 30s, I didn't know myself very well. I had a relationship with myself, and I was kind of like an acquaintance with myself, if that makes any sense. But as you start to get a little bit older, you start allowing yourself to, like, look inside and figure out, like, the good, the bad, the ugly. You pry up all those things that you kind of maybe buried over the years, just dumb stuff, and you deal with it. And, dude, it's. It's powerful feeling. It's. That's where a lot of peace comes from, you know, It's a lot of peace in. In being able to actually confront the demons of your past, because we all have them. Just dumb little things, dude. The dumbest little things will bury themselves inside of us, and then we carry them around for years, and they start to, like, fester, and you don't know what they are, and they manifest themselves as, like, bipolar or, you know, depression or whatever it is. People get all these, like, psychological disorders when really it's just something they didn't deal with from their past. They just buried it, and they're trying to keep it from knocking down the door, but it's coming. Those. Those problems always come if you ignore them. You can't. It just eventually comes to you, and you'll live so much of your life having run from something that wasn't even that big of a deal if you just turned around and faced it.

[F]

Have you found that, like, most of your big wins come after you, like, your big losses, and you can appreciate them a lot more.

[D]

I don't count my losses at all. I don't even. I couldn't tell you the last time I failed. It was probably 20 minutes ago. But I don't keep track of it. And the reason for that is because I think that's partly. I was born that way, just kind of wired that way to be able to be constantly. Glasses half full. My glass is, like, overflowing all the time. It's never been half empty. And that's just the way That I view things. So it's, it's interesting as you get older, because I talk like I'm a 50 year old man. I'm not that old. But I just have noticed over this last year or so, this kind of pivotal moment where you start to, you start to. It's crazy as you start to understand your parents way better. So wait till you get to that age because then you're gonna be like, oh, I know why my did dad. My dad did that. I know why my mom. Like, you start to understand what they were going through and you realize that they were just humans like us doing the best they could.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And so many of us let our relationships with our parents, whether they're good or bad, you know, usually bad, just scar us for life. And it's like your parents, unless your parents were like actually terribly abusive, they were doing the best they could.

[F]

And so when, when you talk about like raising your kids, obviously you're extremely successful and you have wealth and you didn't come from any of that, right?

[E]

No.

[F]

So. So is that gonna be hard for you to, you know, you want to instill these values, obviously, that, that you had to learn without just setting them up for.

[D]

It's one of the hardest things that I have to deal with in my life. Keeping my, my kids grounded and giving them a sense of reality. They go to school after, you know, spring break or something and talking to kids about, hey, what'd you do? I went here, I went there, you know, went down, we went to the lake and my kids like, yeah, we flew the helicopter to Lake Powell and they're just like, talking. It's normal. And I don't even think they're bragging. I think they're just saying what they did. And I. So reality is totally different for these kids than it was for me. So it is extremely hard. And you're constantly doubling back, trying to figure out, like, did I solve too much of the problem for them? Did I make their path too easy? What do I got to do moving forward to let them trip and fall a little bit. It's. It sucks. Honestly. That's the worst part of becoming successful is your kids potentially never learning any work ethic. I always wanted to try to pretend.

[A]

Excuse me. Pretend to be broke again.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Drive around my, like, you know, I.

[D]

Know so many billionaires that drive a 97F250. I do a lot of different business. And you meet these, these guys that are worth so much money and that you would never guess it. You would think that they're $70,000 a year.

[A]

My. My uncle was like that. Like, you know, he drove around in the junkiest pickup, and he had, like, thousands of acres of land, all this stuff, and you'd pull. And everybody felt sorry for him because his truck always broke down and everybody was always pulling him home. And then he's like, you pull into his driveway, though, but there's two brand new trucks sitting in the barn behind the truck. And then you're like, why? Well, I don't even want to drive one of them.

[D]

I never understood why. Why rich people did that until I started making a little bit of money myself. And now I know. Yeah, you're the biggest freaking target in the world, dude, during 2016, 2019, where I was seeing a new lawsuit on my desk once a month from different people and the most frivolous garbage lawsuits. But I'm a target. They see me on TV doing all this crazy stuff, and money's flowing on my ears, and so they want some of it. And when you're target like that, it's so. Dude, suing somebody is so dirty. It's so dirty because you can. You can sue somebody and not have any reason to sue them. Like, no valid case. And you can still sue them and make their life hard enough that they just settle and pay you out. It is. Dude, I. I have no respect for people. I've never filed a single lawsuit against anybody. And I've sued. I've been sued no less than 50 times.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[D]

It's just insane.

[C]

You can't set a precedent that you just pay them off because then everybody else.

[D]

No, yeah, you can't. And that's the. So we. I don't settle. Well, I've had to settle a couple times here and there, but it's actually frustrating because it gets easier just to settle. Because, dude, lawsuits are. They can dig up your entire life and emails that you sent 10 years ago, like, they are. It's the worst use of time and energy. So that's why people settle. And it's worth it. You're buying your time back.

[C]

Yeah. Because it's a mental drink.

[D]

You're being blackmailed basically, with your time for nothing. Dude, it's frustrating.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

People ask us all the time why. Little change subject here. But people ask us all the time why we stay in Minnesota. You, I wonder, that are in Kansas.

[A]

That's right. Sunflower State, baby.

[F]

I think you might have less to do there than we have today.

[A]

What are you talking about? We can count something.

[B]

I heard you downstairs talking very highly about Kansas.

[A]

Oh, Kansas is epic. We can jump hay bales. We can count sunflowers. What else can we do?

[F]

A lot of airstrips, you know? But when people ask, you know, why do you stay? Because at this point, you could go anywhere. Why do you. Why do you stay there?

[A]

I might move eventually. I don't know. I. I just got my compound there, So I got 52 acres of things I can play around with that I absolutely love. And it's just, like, the perfect place. And I stayed there a long time because of family. You know, the. My whole family was there. But recently, I've had, like. I've had a lot of my family die, so there's not really much reason to stay there. So I'm just like. But I still got my place there. And, like, I love my place. I'm like, well, I don't know. One day I might. Like, I look a reboot again. Because, like, the thing is, like, you know what sucks? Is it sucks that you can't make content for, like, three months out of the year because it's too damn cold.

[F]

Yeah, that's what we run into.

[A]

Yeah. See him? He's nodding his head because he used to live in Omaha. He knows the struggle.

[E]

Oh, dude. Windows down. Middle of December.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

January.

[B]

Can't beat it.

[E]

It's the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah. Cleat. I mean, you got it down there. You got your compound.

[E]

What's holding you guys back? Come on down. You got room next door for the winter. Come for the winter.

[F]

Yeah. No, we watch.

[E]

I could find you some places, no problem.

[A]

I was just down there last week. We. We bought a car in Florida, and it was, like, super nice at 65 degrees. We're staying there. B. B's. And it's beautiful. We go down to Daytona Beach. I was swimming in the ocean. It's cold, but I was there. Yeah. And then I come up here, and I'm, like, swimming through snow, and I'm not doing so well.

[C]

I like that ocean better.

[A]

Yeah, that ocean is a little easier. It's a little better. I'll be honest. But, you know. Yeah. Florida is like a. And I feel lied to. The first time I ever came to Florida was to go to one of your races. And I fly in. I get a Chrysler Pacific at the airport, and I get out there, and just. The roads are so nice. It's so beautiful. It's nice everywhere. I'm like, I thought this place was a hole. Everybody lied to me. This place is nice as hell.

[F]

Down here. That's what they say to keep.

[B]

Keep you out.

[A]

Dude, you know what?

[F]

Florida. You don't want to go to Florida.

[A]

You know what's funny is we drive down there and we drive by this Waffle House. It's like on the exit to the Freedom Factory or something. It's like down in that area someplace.

[E]

I got food poisoning from that one.

[A]

Well, listen here. I'll tell you what. They. We get to the race, and we're back in the pits, and we're talking to a bunch of people, and somebody from Florida, I think they work for you. Is like, that place is sketchy. And I drove by there a little bit later as I was going back to my hotel. I'm like, that's the nicest Waffle House I ever seen. That's a you. You seen sketch. You seen the one on the north side of Oklahoma City, south side of Memphis? Them ones are sketchy. He's shooting tonight.

[F]

I'm pretty sure every Waffle House has had some kind of World Star Brawl break out one or two points.

[A]

I love Waffle House so much. It's just such. I love it so much. And then at the time, my videographer was riding with me, and he hates it. Hates Waffle House. And we're driving on. Waffle House is great. Look. And then we drive by this Waffle House in Florida while we were there for months, and there's a drug deal going on out front. And he's like, look at that. Like, that's live entertainment, dude. What are you going down for?

[F]

Dude, we want to get a place somewhere else, too. And obviously Florida would be sweet, but.

[E]

We gotta make it happen.

[F]

That'd be so sweet. But honestly, we say all the time, Salt Lake City is so awesome, too. It is, because you're, like, two hours or four hours away from, like, everything. You have Moab, you have desert, you have mountains, you have the Salt Flats. You have Lake Powell.

[D]

What's crazy is we decided to settle in the worst part of the state. Salt Lake is the least pretty part of the entire state. Everywhere else is insane, because you can go to Red rock country to our south. You can be here in the high pines at 9,10,000ft. In an hour, I can be to 9,000. I live at 5,500ft. I can be to 9,500ft mountaintop right in my backyard in 20 minutes. So you're right. It is. It is a rad spot. It's frustrating, though, because where we settled here, we is in the Mormons and us Utah Pioneers. My family runs deep in like the heritage of Utah. So I've got like, I've got deep roots here, but the settlers settled in this area that was just on the west side of those mountains there or here. And it's like the foothills and then it's the Great Salt Lake. So it's just tiny stretch of land that basically 90% of the population lives in. So living in that is frustrating. So I'm looking at actually moving here pretty soon onto the other side of the mountain to get some space because it's just real estate's going crazy here and I just need a little bit of elbow room.

[A]

You ever want to know how to like find if somebody's from Utah to see how they talk about Salt Lake City? Because they all like, everyone in my head, a flight attendant here is like, oh yeah, the Great Salt Lake. I'm like, you're from Utah. Like, and that's. I think that's just a Utah thing. Everybody's like, the Great Salt Lake proud.

[F]

Of, of where they're from.

[A]

No, like, it's just like. I've never heard anyone ever say the Great Salt. Like it's like Salt Lake City, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But then you get here, everybody's like the great.

[D]

Because it's, it's taking up all of our space. It's this damn lake that's drying up that's sitting literally in the most prime real estate. And, and it's.

[A]

I. I haven't seen it yet.

[D]

Yeah, there's not much to see right now. It's low.

[A]

Oh, well, that's all right. Yeah, I hear it's salty.

[D]

It is salty. Yeah. The salt content somehow is going down every year. I think it's cuz they mine magnesium stuff out of it. But 10, 15 years ago you could lay on your back and. Doesn't matter with your big boy little. Doesn't matter. Lay on your back and you just sit there and bob like a bobber. They don't have to tread water or anything. But now it's, it's going down a little bit. So you can't do that quite as much. The lazy lake until you get a boat on it and then they get these 10 foot rollers. It is terrifying. I've. I've had worse conditions on the Great Salt Lake than I have on the ocean.

[A]

Really?

[D]

That's wild. No alligators, no gators, no. No living knife whatsoever. Except for brine shrimp. It's the world's largest supply shrimp. Brine shrimp? Yeah. There's microscopic.

[A]

Don't they smell awful or something?

[D]

They smell terrible. It's fish food. That's what 90 of the world's fish food comes from is the Great Salt Lake. It's brine shrimp.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

And it smells like rotten tuna.

[F]

What percentage of the Salt Lake City is Mormon?

[D]

I don't know what the percentage is now. I think I used to know growing up, but if I had to get. It's changed a lot because over the last 15 years, a lot of tech companies moved here. So a lot of Californians, a lot of people coming in. Call it 20 years ago, I would say 85%. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's a high number. It's probably. If you live in a neighborhood, at least one of your neighbors is going to be lds and it's pretty rare that they're not like. It's, it's. If there's a 300 houses in the neighborhood, maybe five or 10 of them aren't members of the church. And so it's, it's funny because you just, you grow up just thinking everybody's Mormon. Yeah, I treat everybody like they're Mormon. And it's nothing crazy. Like, you guys have seen how what Mormons are about. We're not what everybody thinks we are.

[F]

Dude. Some of the greatest people I know are Mormon. They just like the values that you guys have and the pureness, you could say at least where we're at is, you know, I don't know a single person really that doesn't drink alcohol. And everyone here has such a great time without alcohol. And it makes you.

[C]

It's so refreshing.

[F]

Yeah, it makes you kind of be like, oh, wow, you don't need a drink to have a good time. And then 66%, 66%. I'm, you know, that's not like the core belief.

[A]

Do more.

[D]

No, I mean, that's the thing is Mormon beliefs are very simple, guys. It's. It's all stuff that we as just trying to be a good person do anyways. So whether you're Mormon or not, do you want to kill somebody?

[E]

No.

[D]

I mean, sometimes we feel like it, but. Are you gonna kill anybody? No. Are you gonna lie, cheat, steal, rob, use drugs? It's all the stuff that we're told not to do as kids. The alcohol thing is a big one. And it's, it's a big no. No. And I've seen firsthand why. It destroys people. Yeah, it just destroys people. It's really hard for a lot of people to drink responsibly. My father in law is an alcoholic. And watching him, it's just so sad because he just literally is disintegrating his body. It's just poison. So that's, it's a, it's a rule that I agree with across the board. Really. Honestly, we don't have any doctrine that I don't think any of you guys would. Wouldn't agree with.

[B]

Right.

[D]

It's all basic, just be good person. Yeah. And it's a really strong family value. So we growing up in the church are, are big on family, big on family history, Finding out who, like, what our lineage is, where we came from, and respecting the past and learning from it. And then also, you know, Mormons generally have more kids than most people. It's, I think the average, probably four or five kids in each house. You go out of state, it's like one or two.

[F]

I think the craziest thing about Mormons is I haven't met an unsuccessful Mormon. Yeah, it's like every single Mormon that I've met has their own business or is a go getter in some.

[D]

Well, I'll tell you why. It's because right as soon as you finish high school and you're getting ready into the real world, instead you go to the church, you hand over everything, your phone, everything, girlfriend, get rid of it all and say, all right, I'm going to go serve other people for two years. So you get sent on a mission. I got sent to Bolivia and Brazil. I didn't know anything. Dude. When I opened my mission call and saw Bolivia, I thought it was like in Europe, like Bulgaria. I didn't know where it was, so. But you get sent to this place where you have know nothing about anything, especially if you're going to a different country. You got to learn a new language and you just have to embrace this culture. And so missionaries learn really good work ethic. And work ethic translates into success in the real world. Like, it's apparent there's more. There's probably more Mormon billionaires than any other religion. Besides maybe Jews. There's a lot of rich.

[E]

How long did you go to Brazil?

[D]

Two years. So I was in Bolivia.

[E]

So your family or. No.

[D]

So when I was a missionary, dude, you leave home and you can call your mom and your family on Christmas. You can write a letter home one day a week. So I talked to my family twice in two years.

[E]

And that still holds like that?

[D]

No, they changed. They changed it over the. When, when Covid hit, it changed the whole missionary program. You could never, ever, ever be by yourself two years I was never alone. You're. You have to be with inside of your companion.

[A]

Really? Wow.

[F]

Do you pick your companion?

[D]

Nope. It's all chosen for you.

[F]

Oh, dude, did you have a cool companion?

[D]

I've had the best companions and I've had the worst companions. I had, dude. My, my trainer, the guy who, when you get to the mission, it's an older veteran missionary who trains you the area and teaches you everything. My trainer was a 20.

[E]

No, no, no.

[D]

Like a 29, 30 year old Peruvian kid who was going home the next month. And a lot of the Peruvians in the South American missionaries went on a mission because they. You don't get paid to go on a mission, you pay to do it. But their quality of life was better as a missionary than it was at home because the church was paying for a nice apartment, stuff like that. So you'll see some, some of them out there that are just there for the free ride and his kid was there for the free ride. So it sucked. So I had to learn a new language. I had to learn how to be away from my family and not have any contact with other humans and be stuck with this guy 24 7. It was rough.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So I did. But then my next companion was one of my best friends to this day. In fact Hands who works for me, my assistant, his brother is my companion on the mission. That's how we know each other.

[F]

Do you think that a lot of Mormons after they, they serve go into door to door sales?

[D]

It's huge. It's one of the biggest industries. When I was, I would say nine out of my 10 buddies, if you know, if I had 100 friends, 90 of them went out to door to door sales.

[F]

Pest control?

[D]

Yeah, pest control and alarms. Alarms Apex. Well, Apex is now vivint that I'd say 80% of the sales guys worked for them. And then there's a bunch of other. Was that like I have a friend who started a really successful pest control company because he did door to door to door sales and he's still kicking ass with it.

[F]

So dude, I'd imagine you get back and you're like, yo, I just keep doing.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[E]

Ben's getting all the info on Mormons right now.

[F]

Ryan, Ryan, I'll give you this.

[C]

I've heard this whole soak up the soaking up the knowledge thing many, many times and I, I agree with it.

[F]

It's cool.

[C]

But Ben is obsessed with the culture.

[F]

I'm extremely interested in, in the Mormon.

[D]

You have a Mormon vibe.

[E]

I'll tell you that, considering you do.

[D]

I'm all you guys.

[F]

Honestly, I'm not. And I'll. I'll tell like, I'm not looking to become a Mormon, but I respect the religion and the culture and the work ethic so much because once you have.

[D]

A family and kids, religion's going to become more important to you. And it's just a natural thing that happens because you want to make sure that you are being the best thing you can for your kids as far as raising them. And you also want to make sure that they have roots outside of. So religious roots are cool because they're deep. They're really deep and they keep you anchored. People who don't have those kind of have shallow roots. Not that's kind of a general statement, but I have found that in general, people who don't have religious beliefs kind of have those shallow roots and anything comes along and just blows them away and they just can't. They, they. They can't hold a job. They can't stay in a relationship. Like, when you have these deep religious beliefs, it requires faith to believe in something that you can't see in order to be able to have faith, bro, that's not easy. Expecting something to happen that you don't know if it's going to happen, but you just believe 1000% that it's going to happen. Like, that's not always easy, but that's faith. That's. That's the core of religious belief. So I'd like. I said you guys all have Mormon vibes, because all we are is just. Just like you guys, we just like to work hard. We try to be honest and we like to, you know, our. The big thing for our church is service. So the culture of serving other people. So if you look at my content, most of it is we're doing service or something. Like the recoveries, we don't get paid.

[E]

For any of those.

[D]

We just go do it.

[F]

You're just like, you gotta be losing money on so many of those recoveries.

[D]

We lose a lot of money. But, bro, it is so, so rewarding. So rewarding. It's, It's. Honestly, without it, I would be a very sad person.

[F]

I think, well, bro, the amount of times that we have been in a pickle, and it's just like, dude, your back is up against the wall and you're like, I, I don't. I literally do not have any options right now. And the fact that you are a lot of people's, like, last resort of like, well, we could Always call heavy.

[D]

D. You nailed it, dude.

[F]

And you show up, get their out every time.

[D]

We're usually the last call.

[F]

It is a.m. yeah. Like, it's honestly so amazing.

[A]

I buried a bulldozer one time. I'm like, God, I wish every day was closer.

[D]

We thrive on it, dude. Honestly, it's. It's one of the most enjoyable things I've ever done because it's problem solving, real life problem solving with giant toys, and you're bonking things around until it works.

[E]

Really excited about it.

[D]

I get really excited about it. That's passionate.

[A]

And you love that snow.

[D]

And I love the snow cat. We are usually the last call. Duke. I have a thing for snow. I was telling somebody this story yesterday when I got home from my mission. It was right during the recession, and I really wanted to get a job kind of doing anything because there was no jobs out there. So I saw a resort groomer position pop up at the local ski resort. I was like, hell, yeah. I'm the guy for this. So I go on there, fill out the application. I lie and say that I've got experience doing this and that and all these different things. I don't get the job. They tell me just flat out I'm not qualified. And I was, like, devastated for, like 30 seconds. And then I was like, nah, that I'm gonna get my own snowcat.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's honestly the way that my. My whole life has kind of happened.

[E]

It's like, for that snow.

[F]

Yeah, bro. I was telling you that too.

[A]

I was beyond.

[F]

When I was a little kid, I said, if. If I win the lottery one day, I was. That was. You know, I thought that's how you got rich. You win the lottery. I'm buying a snow cat because I love snowmobiling, and I love snowmobiling on groomed trails. And I'm like, yo, I'm finding a snow cat. I'm gonna groom the trails.

[C]

I can ride.

[E]

It's like every three snow cats at a shop. Several snowcats at a shop, too.

[D]

I'm.

[E]

It's a stash, I think.

[F]

Made it. Then there you go. What more do you.

[D]

Yeah, that's the ultimate sign of success right there. Multiple snowcats.

[E]

Hey, how many employees do you have?

[D]

Fluctuates all the time. We. We're going through a bunch of changes in our company now because we're closing down the diesel power gear side because of a lawsuit. And it's just. I got tired of it. But at our peak, we had like 100 right now we probably got 40.

[F]

Dude, you. I think people forget that you, like, pioneered the whole giveaway.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Struggle.

[F]

Like, oh, yeah. You buy our merch, you get enter for this giveaway. Like, you were the.

[D]

You were doing that in 2013, 2012. I started the Facebook page to sell trucks. I was hoping to sell more trucks to a bigger audience. Me and Dave and. Yeah. Diesel sellers. And then we started posting videos and stuff to try to get more attention, and the pages all went viral super quick, and we're like, hell, yeah. But what do we do? Like, Facebook wasn't monetizing. We didn't. Weren't monetizing much on YouTube or anything. We're like, how do we make money on this? And then I saw a comment one day, kids like, hey, you should give. You should raffle off a truck. And I was like, that's it.

[F]

So how many good, good comments there are?

[D]

Like, that's a great idea, stealing that, dude. It pioneered an industry. Like, for the last 10 years, vehicle sweepstakes have been huge. Yeah.

[E]

Who is that guy who commented that? I don't know.

[D]

I think it was a kid.

[F]

You don't want him to find out, because he's gonna.

[D]

Oh, yeah, it'll be another lawsuit.

[F]

No.

[D]

Yeah, it was. So I called a buddy of mine, a mentor, good. Good friend of mine, the guy that I worked for before my mission, owner of Rockwell Watches. I was like, hey, Rich, I want to give away a truck, but it's illegal to do a raffle for profit. So what did I do? He's like, just sell something. I was like, well, what do I sell? I don't want to go. I don't have any money to buy anything. And he's like, sell wristbands. So we did. I ordered a bunch of silicone wristbands from China, and they said, diesel power. And that was our first entry.

[F]

For our first giveaway, I was like, the live strong.

[D]

Yeah, just like those.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

And then we started adding, like, a new shirt every couple weeks, like, and stuff was selling and, like, going crazy. And our first giveaway, we gave away a 2013 Ram, and we did 400 and, like, 75 grand in total revenue. And we were like, we are. That's wristbands. That's just wristbands and stickers, dude. It was so many risks. 25 bucks.

[C]

Okay, so.

[D]

Because they were really. Every $5.

[F]

Okay, got it.

[A]

I got 2013 Ram at home. I better get back. You later real quick, dude.

[F]

Weston. Weston starts selling wristbands.

[A]

Hey, guys, come on over to West Cake dot com. It worked.

[D]

The problem is now that there's a lot of trash in the industry, a lot of people are, dude, it's so saturated. It's saturated. It doesn't work like it used to. If you have a good audience who loves what you do, like Cletus does, it's going to work forever because his fans just love what he does and so he doesn't have to do advertising. But we used to make. Dude, we were spending that j. We were spending a million dollars a month on. On advertising on Snapchat and Instagram and stuff. Million dollars a month.

[F]

So I mean, it. It had to still making. Making money. But at what point does it just not make sense?

[D]

Well, that that scale started right here. If we were spending a million, we were making 10 million that month and it was awesome. And then as, as the algorithm kept changing, it started getting to like, we had to spend a million to make 1.1. Yeah, it's not going to work. So I just got tired of selling T shirts. Got so tired of it. So I'm not a. I'm not an apparel. I love apparel, but I don't have the passion to have my own apparel company because it's really hard to do a good apparel company. Like these pants are done by a guy, an ex. He's a veteran and he's like a crossfitter. And so he took everything from the tactical world and everything from the CrossFit world and blended them together and went and made this like proprietary fabric. Dude, that's so hard. So expensive, so time consuming.

[F]

I was going to ask you what kind of pants those are, bro.

[D]

Cargo pants. Cargo pants. Born primitive. Huge shout out to two people here. Born primitive. Check them out. Like the best clothing I've ever had. And origin company owned by Jocko Willick and a bunch of other veterans.

[F]

Dude, shout out.

[D]

Origin is legit.

[F]

You don't make shitty merch. You get shout outs on podcast.

[D]

It's all very high quality. And Origin is actually the only denim manufacturer in the entire United States because everybody else went to overseas. These, these veterans went out and bought an old freaking like 1880s wool mill and started making their own denim. And they've just been killing it.

[F]

A lot of cool companies like Black Rifle.

[D]

Oh yeah. One of my best buddies runs that company. That's again, those guys just freaking get it done. They, they're so disciplined. They're like the LDS missionaries times a thousand because they spend all that time.

[E]

Shout out to Black Rifle.

[D]

Shout out to Black Rifle.

[F]

Dude, it's got to kind of piss you off though that like everyone's doing these giveaways now. And like, that was kind of. It did.

[D]

At first I was just like so upset because the, the first copycats of our business model were close friends of mine and it was super frustrating.

[E]

What year did you do Your first one?

[D]

2013. April.

[E]

Oh my gosh.

[D]

Started in April 2013 and ended in August 2013. And we've given away like 120 trucks now.

[F]

Can I ask what your guys biggest like giveaway was?

[D]

Black Friday 2021. I think we did like 15 million in like three or four days. Yeah, we were doing. We were.

[E]

Vehicle was it?

[D]

I couldn't even tell you. Black Friday was. Oh, I think it was. We did three classics. We did the Bronco, the Ram Charger and the Blazer and it killed it.

[F]

Wow, that's crazy.

[D]

But you know what our most successful, most profitable giveaways have ever been? Always, always semi trucks.

[F]

Really?

[D]

By a landslide.

[E]

That's kind of your market.

[D]

Yeah. And truckers, Truckers spend money differently than, than online. Guys like us, they spend different money.

[E]

So you got me into giveaways? Yeah, pretty much right when we met and right before this cabin trip. The first time we ever did it was the first time I did a giveaway because you were like, you were like, bro, you gotta do it. So that was eight, nine years after you started doing it.

[D]

Frustrated me at first when I watched people copy us, but then we realized that it was going to happen regardless. So then we started, we put on a clinic to teach people how to do it. 2019, I put together a thing called the Heavy Academy. And it was just basically like a. A business mastermind to teach people how to do giveaways. And we killed it. We did two of them and made a ton of money. Made a bunch of really successful business owners a ton of money because they went out and did giveaways. I've had a lot of people tell me that that like changed their life.

[F]

Oh, that's got to be pretty cool.

[D]

Yeah, I'm big on that. But I won't do anything unless I feel 100% right about it. And it got to the point where I felt a little slimy, like we were doing the get rich quick thing and I just couldn't do it. I can't force myself to do something like that. So I had to back away.

[E]

Well, the thing I like about giveaways, the way that you set out the platform, is it's not like you're throwing money at something and hoping you win. Like, you're just. You're buying something for the same price it would normally be. Like, at least in, I think most of our circumstances, we don't raise our prices on our merch or anything. It's the same as it is all year round. It's just during this period of time, there's also an added incentive of a car.

[D]

The problem is we trained our customers to only shop when giveaways are happening. You've done a better job at it, keeping steady sales. But we were doing giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, back to back because they were working so well that everybody just waited, right? And then, then. And then we started doing like first of the giveaway, huge spike flash giveaway on the first two days and then the last two days. And people learned that so they'd wait and spend their money in the last couple days. Your consumers track what you do. And we weren't. We weren't fulfilling the customer service very well. On the, on the T shirt, we tried. We had a huge warehouse. That's where most my overhead was. And it's really hard. Yeah, doing that much volume, dude. And so we kind of got a bad name for customer service because we just couldn't keep up, Especially when the TV show was airing. Orders were just flowing in. But I got tired of apparel and I decided to dump that. And we're revamping some of our business models and, and growing. So that's crazy.

[F]

You. You did something that I think every YouTuber is like, really, really jealous of. And that's one the freedom Factory. And you're able to host these events. Like, we always sit down and we're like, man, how could we, like, recreate something that makes sense for us or like, host an event or like, you know, put on something that'd be so cool to, like, bring the fans to together. And it makes sense because it's like, fits our style. And I don't know. I don't know if you could ever recreate something as good as you got, dude. And then you have the pay per views, dude. As soon as I found out you were pay per viewing it too, I was like, God damn, dude.

[B]

I want to say one cat. I want to say one more thing about that too. So that was like Gavin, not Greg Godfrey, who's also Mormon, who's from Utah. He was. When we were sitting in a yurt in the middle of nowhere and he's telling us, he's like, you guys got to do live events. Know when we did Live events. We crushed it. And I'm like, what does that even look like for us? Like, what.

[F]

What.

[E]

What are we going to do?

[F]

Yeah, we're like, dude, we're like. Like, I don't know how all while.

[B]

That was happening, you're. I mean, doing it under our feet and you're just doing it, you little weasel.

[D]

We were totally gonna do that.

[E]

I thought you guys were gonna do it, so I was like, get that done.

[D]

It's a top shelf operation, though, too. When you go down there, it is so dialed in.

[A]

But even before that, like, Cletus and Cars was, like, really, really cool.

[E]

Makes me happy to hear that you guys see it that way because.

[F]

Yeah. And I'm not trying to suck your guys's dick right now. You know.

[D]

I got like, four layers.

[A]

I'm leaving.

[F]

No, I'm just. I'm just giving you guys your flowers.

[D]

I was promised some fellatio.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, no, I'd love to help.

[F]

I think you guys are just killing it, but. Well, you.

[B]

You did offer out the. Yeah, like, you mentioned the paper.

[E]

I would. I would love this, but.

[D]

Yeah, honestly, Seaboys, you guys have. You guys have a unique opportunity right now to fill in the Nitro Circus gap.

[E]

Nitrous jumping something really far. Like.

[D]

It doesn't have to be crazy, though. Nitro already did everything crazy that could ever be done. You need to do something unique and relatable.

[F]

Right.

[D]

It has to be something that. Dude. Freaking chainsaw races. Something like that. Semi truck brainstorming. Like, you can put together something that keep it as generic as possible so that everybody can participate. Like those Spartan races and stuff like that. Putting on an event is so much harder than anybody could ever imagine.

[E]

Glad you know that.

[D]

Logistically, it is an absolute freaking nightmare. And the fact that you just do it back to back to back and keep pulling them off, I don't know how you do it.

[E]

It was miserable until I got the best group of guys ever to help me do it. But it. They can be brutal. They can be brutally hard and have very small returns sometimes.

[F]

Really?

[E]

And it's just a battle.

[F]

Why? Because the margins are just so fine or you got to sell enough for it to make sense.

[E]

Some of these track, like, you know, Bristol isn't amazing, but, like, that track costs a fortune to rent.

[F]

How much can you tell us?

[E]

I mean, I'd have to look at the last one, but I don't. I don't know if I can say.

[F]

But okay. It's okay. Because I'm curious, too. Like, everyone's I've always wondered like man.

[A]

What is it like what's it cost to like rent? Is it like new F150 or is it like new like diesel Jetta, you know Diesel jet is like 14.

[E]

It's like it's like a decent helicopter.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like a Robinson.

[E]

It's a decent helicopter.

[A]

I don't think a Robinson's a decent one.

[E]

For one I'll leave it at a decent helicopter.

[C]

My goodness.

[E]

Well it's a couple but they're also opening up a world class facility with a name like Bristol. Exactly. So there's, there's a reason you pay.

[A]

You know I've never been there, I never done anything about it but I'm like God I'm Bristol. I know, I know.

[E]

We're in Bristol baby. Yeah, like that, that has pull to it.

[A]

So yeah, 100%.

[C]

But you know what's cool is having the Freedom Factory has solidified. Like that carries a name now.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

People like would dream to be able to drive around that track.

[A]

That first video that came out, oh my goodness. In the thumbnail where you're in the helicopter, it's like in the back. God damn.

[E]

That was, that's been a crazy deal. And now it's like it's just like set up and operational. There's actually an event going on right now. Oh wow. What?

[A]

What's going on?

[E]

There's a race going on tonight.

[A]

Were they racing on Mars? What?

[E]

They're they're just doing like some circle track racing, crown vig stuff. They had a cars and coffee this morning. It's just like that's how you got.

[A]

A well oiled machine down there just working.

[E]

It's wild.

[F]

Dude, I don't know if this is a true stat at all but I feel like you brought back racing people.

[E]

People say that to me and like I don't feel like I like it brought it back because it never went away. But I feel like we, we allowed a fresh new take to be kind of like opened up and seen by a lot of people like that racing. I don't know. It did have a kind of a dark look like we'll say it. I'm not saying brought back racing. Definitely not.

[C]

We'll say it for you dude.

[E]

Definitely not. Got you from me. I just, I just wanted to show people how fun it is and like it purely happened just because I was having so much fun.

[D]

You made it super relatable. Anybody can go buy a two thousand dollar Crown Vic.

[E]

I honestly have more fun in a Crown Vic than, like, almost anything. I love Crown vicks.

[A]

I'll tell you what. My smart car, I love that thing. I drive that. It's like. It's the. That's the thing.

[E]

Smart car is ripped.

[A]

I got, like, I got a lot of cool cars, you know, Like, I drive around like a smart car, and, like, I got a black and white Chevy Tahoe I bought for eleven hundred dollars. It was an old police car. I drive that all around town.

[F]

How annoying is the transmission on the smart cars, though, dude?

[E]

They're the.

[F]

Oh, I know.

[A]

I bang mine.

[E]

Dude.

[C]

Brian Scotto has a great line that driving a slow car fast is more fun than driving a fast car.

[A]

Because, like, when you're driving a smart car, your balls and walls, you feel like a race car. You're Mario Andretti. 42 miles an hour.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You're not going to jail. Like, you would be in the hellcat.

[A]

No, no. Then I get my hellcat. I'm like, oh, why? What? 160. That's weird.

[E]

I have a lot of cars that just. I ruined. Because they're so fast, isn't it?

[A]

That's the problem with them, right? Because, like, all, like, this is the thing. I run into them, all my hellcats. I'm like, all right, let's put on E90.

[F]

All right.

[A]

Put big injectors in it. All right, let's do this. Let's do that. Pull out the intercooler. Do this ice tank. I'm like, well, I can't go to McDonald's anymore. You know, the thing is, you know, that's with drag racing, too. Is like. You ever think. Even when I got into it, because I never really did drag racing before YouTube. Like, I, you know, I. I messed around, like, you know, out in the country, like country kids did, but, like, nothing else like that. It's really intimidating. Like, is like, if you know nothing about it, you're just stepping into it. Whatever. Like, it's like, it's intimidating because you're not really sure where to start. Like, what to do. Like, you're just kind of like, try.

[D]

Doing that with monster trucks. Monster truck, drag racing it. Because.

[F]

What about just monster trucks in general? I forgot about that.

[D]

Did monster.

[F]

How big he is driving those?

[D]

It's the best. So we had an awesome deal, Monster Jam. We partnered up with them. They love the brodozer. And so we built the diesel brodozer. And, dude, that truck was a completely different animal than anything else out there. Those methanol trucks are. They're hard to Drive because they're just all over the place. They're just snappy. The Brodozer was 10,000 times harder to drive than like rookie or veteran veteran drivers like Tom Mintz, Anderson, boys, Dennis Anderson. They've all driven the Rotos. And there's like, how do you do that? How do you even compete? It's a Duramax compounds waggler really. But dude, it's the like it's snappy for, for a diesel, but it's not a methanol truck. So basically anytime I'd hit an obstacle, I'd have to basically build 2.2seconds of recoil or boost into the system and see what was going to happen if I. Because that's my. My inertia, my momentum. Everything in Monster Jam is about momentum and inertia. It's how fast you can keep your run going and you keep that momentum going. If you stop, you lose all the momentum. With the diesel, I can't keep momentum when I think about needing to keep it. So if I'm slowing down, my brain says hit the gas. And I hit the gas and a methanol truck goes diesel. I'm sitting there. So I'm having like. I would drive in a way that I didn't even understand. Yeah, I couldn't predict it. So I would like I was experimenting the whole time. So. So I'd get in it and dude, it would freaking build boost. And then all of a sudden it hit the same obstacles the methanol trucks hit. But it would hit it with probably five times the force and it would just do the wildest. But when I would flip over and land upside down and then when your tire grabs and it flips you back over where that breaks most of the methanol trucks because they're on the throttle and it just snaps it. My truck had like a built in shock absorber because of the turbo lag. So it go. And then it would re. Then the turbo would spool and it would just go freaking bananas. But it, it do it a gradual way so it wouldn't snap parts. So I had some of the most insane recoveries in Monster Jam.

[F]

I think I know what you're saying right now. Like, I think I understand, but I'm also trying to wrap my, my mind around all of it because monster trucks just in general blow my mind.

[D]

It's the coolest thing you'll ever thing.

[E]

Dude, you're kind of a wrecking ball like vehicles. So I would love to like see a live show of you just destroying.

[D]

You guys Would have loved the live shows. We. I don't say this to brag, but the live shows that we competed in, like, burned down the house. I'm telling you. Like fans rushing the the floor in new in Texas. What's that? El El Paso might be El Paso. Like, I have a really strong Mexican following because I seek Spanish and love Mexican people, bro. Just the. The entire stadium flooded with Mexican people to come down and say hi. Hate me and Dave. It's the best dude.

[F]

I could see Weston doing that. I can just hear your voice in it. Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

Next thing I knew, I was upside down. It's a good time. I'm upside down.

[D]

Some of the most pain I've ever been in was from monster trucks.

[F]

It's gotta hurt, right, bro.

[D]

My first backflip, I went to go hit the wall and Monster and the methanol trucks, they hit it rolling at about 15, 20, and then they just go crack the throttle ready for it. And it'll give them their bill pop. Well, I have to hit it two seconds early and wait for my boost to build. I freaking hit it just like maybe a half a second too early. I built boost and climbed the ramp instead of flipping ramp launched like 40, 50ft in the air and came to a complete perfect stop upside down.

[F]

You don't.

[D]

You know, what you don't think about is your feet. My feet wrapped up around the steering wheel into the roll cage. I was like freaking just like cheesy gordita crunch. Just all folded up, dude. And my feet, dude, it was. That was rough.

[E]

I jumped one, like 10, maybe. Maybe six feet in the air to flat on the burnout pad and about snap my neck. Because they have like 300 psi in the shocks and those.

[D]

Yeah, they're real stiff. And you have to run a certain pressure in the tires. Too regulation. So it's. But that truck was amazing, dude. It allowed Diesel Dave to do a consecutive backflip. So he went up and came up short. And he was coming to stuff. His nose just grabbed the throttle. I don't think he meant to. I think he was just. It boosted and the truck goes and does a double backflip.

[C]

And the.

[F]

Oh, everyone had.

[D]

The stadium lost their damn mindset.

[E]

Where is that truck now?

[D]

So that's really frustrating. Covid came around. They canceled the shows and. Well, let me get to your answer first. It's. I think it's at Feld headquarters and down by you. But they can't use the license anymore because I own the bros or license and So I revoked the license from them after co because it wasn't a great partnership as far as them fulfilling their end of the bargain with licensing. And then that kind of ended the relationship is. I'll. There's a chance I might build another truck and go back, though. I. I'd go back as an independent though. And just because, dude, showing up and just being able to get in the truck, wreck it and fly home.

[E]

The big ones.

[D]

Maybe that's what we were doing. When I was running for Monster Jam, we would only hit the big, big shows. I was. That was another frustrating thing. You get really excited. And the reason I brought this up is because racing in monster trucks is really competitive. There's some really fast guys out there and it is. It's full blown racing, dude. You got to be significantly better driver than the guy next to you because it comes down to like tenths of seconds. And I would get so excited. I'd go in, I do shoot two shows in a row, get momentum, do well, be kicking ass and racing. And then we'd get pulled from the circuit for six months because there wasn't any big shows for the summer. And so you get just dropped in right when you're getting comfortable, you get pulled out and in and out, in and out. But it was one of the most enjoyable things I've ever done and I loved it because I took my family with me. Every show we just flew to, it was always in Florida in the winter, which is the best for the family to get away. But I think we'll come back and I. If I do, it's going to be. It's going to me and David and I will have dueling trucks.

[E]

Do you. Do you guys do anything right now where you're like in a competition? Because like, we like, we're drag racing all the time, so we're always like competing against people. Do you guys do any stuff like that?

[F]

You know, not really. Like, oddly enough, the only time that we like race and anything's on the line is for your events. Yeah. We gotta figure out who's racing. Yeah. Or today. You love racing, dude. We're not like huge racers, but when we're hanging out with you, we're like, everything's a race.

[E]

I love racing.

[D]

The only person.

[E]

I love beating people. So, like.

[F]

Yeah, no, you know, when I first.

[A]

I would love down there.

[E]

Next to me. I'm like, I'm gonna.

[D]

I'm the worst at racing.

[A]

I like racing, but I don't. I don't know, I kind of Just like going out, having fun.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think if it gets too competitive, it's not really that fun for me. But then again, And then here's what happens and then it gets really competitive. I'm like, I want to win, so. And I get like to like the biggest like competitive thing I've ever done is like roadkill nights up in Pontiac. This is the thing Dodge puts on. And I've been there like a couple years and I like last year I went and they did this thing where it's a six speed car like thing, you know, and we built. I built like a 1500 horsepower, big old fat, full interior, £4200 street car with six speed in it. Piled weights on the back of it, piled sandbags in the trunk.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, did all the. Didn't know what I was doing, but God dang, I could row gears. That's the only thing I had going for me is I could get the out some gears and nobody, nobody else could shift that well. So like I was beating cars that were 1700 pounds lighter with you know, 15 wides on the back, you know, a lot of rubber on the ground somehow. And I pulled out and I got a drop in. I'm like, ah. So I still, I still look at the truck.

[E]

That's what I'm talking about.

[F]

Cletus is like, yeah, but you want another one?

[A]

I'll be honest.

[F]

I'll put up a trophy next time.

[A]

We were. The thing is, is I sit there and it was so, it was so fun. It was so.

[E]

It was live for those trophies. I know.

[A]

And I was, I was rolling out.

[E]

Of that event and like I love hearing this.

[A]

I was rolled out of that event and like there's four link drag racing cars, like just full like back half cars there. Right.

[E]

Is beating them.

[A]

Yeah. And I, I post this thing on Instagram of me rocking the radio with the AC on, rolling out of there after. We're just holding the trophy in my lap. Be like, yeah, oh my God. Yeah, we're good.

[F]

You won.

[E]

Love it.

[F]

You won like Freedom 501 year, didn't you? Okay. So, yeah. When you won it last, when you won it last year, I saw that you posted it. I finally won. I was like, dude, this guy, I was like, I was like, it's not good.

[A]

He win your own thing.

[D]

He just puts on the most everyone.

[F]

He invites everyone out just to be.

[E]

I have won two races in three years and there's four races a year. Yeah, I mean I feel like that's not Too many to be fishy, right?

[B]

I agree.

[E]

The first he lets out a couple.

[F]

Of years, I don't know, what am.

[E]

I supposed to sit out?

[F]

I think it's just suspicious.

[E]

I tell everyone, like, I'm racing the first ever Freedom 500. We did a thing. It was Covid. So we did, like, this crazy, stupid thing where we all had to walk up one by one and choose like our car. And I let everyone choose. I took the last car that was left and I won.

[F]

Oh, so I won the first ever one.

[E]

Yeah, I won the first ever. But, like, even the cars now, like, if anybody wants my car, they can have it.

[F]

Yeah, I want it.

[E]

I'll take whatever car in the field because that's fair. Mine is probably the shittiest one. I've raced mine in, like, freaking 10 races now, so.

[B]

Oh, it's been that.

[D]

He's got.

[A]

That. He's got them trick flow heads on it.

[E]

I do feel a little guilty. Like, I can tell you right now, I'm not gonna take the helicopter, but I will win and give it to the second place person at the Freedom 500 because.

[A]

Is that because you just don't like it that much?

[E]

Sure. No, it's because I'm not gonna hype up a sick. Like, last year, I hyped up a sick prize, and I. I did. I was like, all right, I'm taking it. But, like, this one's so sick. I want one of my friends to have it. I would love to see somebody like.

[A]

Wait, what kind is it?

[E]

It's a Hughes 300. So, like, M. You know, MD like the helicopters. I really like the Call of Duty looking one. Yeah, it's like their OG helicopter.

[A]

But that was, like, started by Howard Hughes, right? It's like a Howard Hughes.

[E]

Yeah. Howard. Yes.

[A]

Yeah, boy. Dude. That guy was a G. I love Howard.

[E]

Hear this guy talking about Howard.

[A]

Oh, I know everything about Howard Hughes. Howard Hughes, like, big in Wichita. Wichita was air capital of the world. Everybody talked about Howard use.

[D]

I was watching.

[E]

It's a huge 269, but they call them 300.

[A]

I have this, like, portrait in my. In my office, and it's of him standing in front of the H1 racer, looking like a pimp in a long coat. And he is just.

[E]

Oh, that guy. That guy.

[A]

You guys not know who this is? Howard Hughes was like, the real life Tony star.

[E]

This guy figured some out. Yeah, just some stuff that you just can't even wrap your head around. He figured it out, and he was.

[D]

Making, like, mo musicals and Movies at the same time.

[F]

100% interesting combination.

[A]

Number one movies. He got put in the ICU and reinvented the hospital bed. Made the modern hospital bed that won't give you bed sores. Like, this guy was smart. Like, super smart.

[F]

Yo, I love that you have a. A picture of him hanging up. He's your Steve Jobs.

[A]

The thing is, well. And then they always talk about, like, the. The Japanese stole this design from the H1 to, like, make the 0 or whatever. But, like, the H1 racer was, like, one of the fastest airplanes for a while. It's like 725 horsepower or something like that. It was crazy.

[E]

I love that you know that.

[A]

Oh, dude, I love.

[D]

Like, I just knows it. But you're passionate.

[A]

I love aircraft. I love, like, Howard Hughes. Like, I'm right. Really into that. Like, the Hercules. I want to go so bad and see the Hercules. And when anybody calls the Spruce Goose, I just get mad. I'm like, oh, that's always called.

[D]

Listen here.

[A]

I watched a movie. I read the dog. Nah, I'm not gonna say that word. But anyway, I can't say documentary.

[E]

Right?

[D]

What's.

[A]

How do you say documentary? Documentary. I can't say.

[F]

Yeah, dude, you should meet my buddy cj.

[A]

But no, no. Yeah, he was a g. He was, like, the inspiration for, like, Tony Stark from, like, Marvel. Wow.

[B]

I feel so lame. I really like Tony Stork.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, like, that's what's been so fun about this trip. You find out, like, all these people that you love and watch and hang out with, and then you just figure out that they're some guy that you never heard.

[E]

Yeah, it's like the. The. All the snowmobiling and all that stuff. So fun. But honestly, chilling in the cabin at night is, like, best. Dude, it's so cool hanging out with everybody.

[B]

Yeah, that's my favorite part is that. I mean, it's.

[D]

It's.

[B]

Think how rare it is that you go into a house or a cabin or whatever, and there's not a TV in the living room.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And there's not a TV in here, and we all just conversate, and it's a beautiful thing. But, yeah, I mean, circling way back to what you first said, like, we just. Like everyone who watches YouTube, hope that you guys. It's just this underlying thing that I hope there's cool off camera as they are on camera. And it is. Is the case for sure for everyone.

[D]

Here in this case. Yeah, there are some.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Never meet your heroes.

[A]

You know, I've had them moments, and I'm. You know, I'm not gonna say what it is. I'm not gonna say who it is, obviously, but I'm just like, oh, I.

[E]

Can tell you who the number one guy my hero was. And he absolutely exceeded my expectations.

[D]

Oh, that's awesome.

[E]

And is became more of my hero. And that's Travis. I was gonna say Pastrana.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[E]

That dude lives up to what he is and what you see on TV and overshoots it by a mile. He's a legend.

[D]

He never stops. Dude is always going, going, man.

[B]

I've.

[A]

I've seen him, but I've never, like, actually had a conversation with him. Like, I've met him, but I've never had.

[E]

He's just the best.

[F]

You know, we've posted a couple things, like, showing just, like, where we're at or who all we're with, and it was your. You posted a story last night, like, just of everyone hanging out in the living room. And we. I just reposted it on our story. Dude, we got flooded with so many responses of, like, yo, I am so fired up right now. Like, all my favorite YouTubers in one room. This is so awesome.

[D]

It was pretty surreal looking around last night.

[A]

If only could they pull this. The conversations.

[F]

Yeah, they would.

[A]

These guys are idiots.

[E]

Yeah. Not a lot of, like, real productivity going on, you know, but we.

[A]

Hey, the creative juices were flowing, you know?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

I say it all the time. I say, like, you know, we obviously get along with certain people because of just, like, common interest, but, like, it seems like majority of the time, it's just like, the inner degenerate, and. And we love hanging out with other degenerates. Dude, it's so fun. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

It's just like, people that don't take it too serious or they, you know, they're not afraid to, like, laugh at themselves or. I said that light of a situation.

[A]

And it's just so fun times while I was here. I'm like, dude, it's so awesome that everybody is just like. I'm just, like, scared of showing up and saying something dumb, because I always say something dumb, and I'm like, oh, everybody else saying something dumb. All right, we're good. Everybody else is just like, oh, yeah, it's great.

[E]

Great.

[C]

The cabin's gotten louder as the weekend has progressed, which has been fun. Everybody's just getting comfy.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

What a. Like, this is just the best annual trip. I love this trip.

[D]

Yeah. You guys, I'd like to extend the invite for Next year.

[E]

Dude.

[D]

This is like an annual tradition for.

[A]

Us, so I'm going have to bring some. Works better.

[E]

Oh, you have to be invited to come because I've just been. Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever been invited.

[D]

He just got the. The just the open invite actually last year.

[F]

It's just you and me.

[E]

Right?

[B]

That'd be such a different vibe.

[E]

There's other people, but him and I were the only.

[F]

They're just talking helicopters.

[E]

There was like kind of a gap year and like everyone. I don't know, it was just like you and I.

[D]

Somebody else was here. I can't remember who it was, but yeah, it's always been a good trip and it just keeps getting better every year. Cletus and I always joke it's like, what are we gonna do to top this year? Next year?

[E]

Yeah, next.

[F]

I've been thinking about that too, man. Like, how do you. What. What vehicles, bro?

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

We have a snow race.

[D]

I brought a Blackhawk, A school bus on tracks. Monster Max was here. We did a Sandrail on tracks.

[E]

We did the airboat.

[D]

We did every brand of sherp and fat truck you can think of. We did a bullet bike on like. Dude, what. What else is there to do?

[F]

Bullet bike. You guys keep calling. I like that. I like that.

[B]

Bullet bike.

[D]

What do you call them?

[F]

Just like a crotch rocket, dude.

[E]

You know we need to set up for next year. Is a zip line from the bow.

[D]

Oh hell yeah.

[E]

You'd be going about 400.

[D]

Let's do it.

[F]

Evan was.

[E]

I put that down.

[F]

So there's a hill right. Right on this side of the. The wall. And it's steep enough to carry enough speed on skis. If we built a jump off the deck, you could air the gap underneath off the deck and then land on the hill.

[D]

Yeah. Two years ago we built a step up right here where you first go off the hill. We built a huge step up for a timber sled backflip. And Ethan Roberts was here doing. Oh yeah. But he couldn't get any traction on the hill. So it wasn't a great spot.

[E]

A zipline, hot air balloon.

[F]

Oh yeah.

[C]

I haven't won too low intensity for you guys.

[E]

It would be.

[D]

I would. It's my hell. Unless I'm piloting it. Even then I will. You're just up there just floating around with the wind. I fucking hate the way.

[C]

You know what's impressive? I was. I was in one and dude, we took off and they're like the. The winery that was on the balloon is the one we landed at. Like, it was intense. We landed 15ft away from the other balloon that took off next to us. Really? It was. It was impressive, huh? So I don't know how they did it.

[D]

It was weird either.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

When they have that extravaganza where they launch all the balloons.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I was accidentally there. Like.

[C]

I was just driving my Humvee across.

[A]

No, like, literally, I was there to pick up my twin turbo trx, and I got up one morning. I'm like, what the is all that in the sky? And then next thing I know, there's just people just, like, catching balloons on the freeways, like, in people's backyards. They're just, like, going all over the place.

[C]

There's no way that's not a sh. Show.

[A]

Oh, it is. Oh, it's a massive show.

[D]

Did you guys see the. There's a clip on Instagram. A hot air balloon gets drug away in the windstorm, and he, like, wipes out a car, knocks out a family, flies away, hits the power line. Power line breaks. Like, catches his thing on fire, and then he. He comes back down, bounces off the ground just enough to get thrown out and get his leg caught in the rope. And then it takes off again. Bro's hanging by one leg as the hot air balloon drifts off. After being electrocuted and wiping out a family. It was the most chaotic video I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

So I take it you're not really on game for the hot airborne.

[D]

I'm in.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I have zero ability to calculate risk. What do you want to do?

[E]

What about some sort of, like, survival challenge?

[D]

I thought about that.

[E]

Like, but that takes days.

[D]

I thought about us trying to sleep in an igloo tonight or something like that, but that sounds hard.

[E]

What about a triathlon, but with vehicles?

[D]

Or how about. What if we just did this? What if we just came and had a good time?

[F]

Yeah, I don't think we have to change a single thing.

[D]

I'm sure all of us are quietly going to be building some competition, but we can all just pretend like it's.

[C]

Not happening over here.

[D]

We just pretend like it's not happening.

[F]

You know, what if we brought, like.

[D]

A. I'm going to do the snowed in 500. We're going to do a race. We're going to do an oval. Oval track over in the field.

[E]

Fire me up. 500 laps and fiber optic ran up.

[A]

Here on studded tires.

[E]

Oh, that would be, bro. A lake race on the Ice.

[D]

That would be wild.

[B]

Count me in.

[A]

Wait, ain't there a lake just like over there?

[D]

Yeah, huge.

[C]

You guys want to go on the lake? Just go to Cormorant?

[F]

Yeah, you guys should all just come to Cormorant.

[A]

Is it, like, enough to drive on, bro?

[E]

I could show.

[D]

We drove a record a couple days ago.

[A]

You drove a wrecker on it a couple days ago?

[D]

Okay. We had to recovery, so. So the shoreline right now is only like 2 or 300 yards off the shores frozen, but you can drive around the edges. Sometimes the whole lake freezes and it gets crystal clear. You guys ever see a video of a guy that goes underneath the ice and he's swimming and he tries to find the hole back up, and he can't, and you can just see him crystal clear under the glass, like, trying. That was my buddy right here.

[F]

Barely what that was.

[C]

Was that real?

[D]

Like, he could have 100 real. Yep. He got. He got so disoriented and his eyes froze. He couldn't see the hole.

[F]

Was he all right?

[D]

Barely. He barely made it out alive. Like, he was. He. He was trapped under there. I think the video is like. Like 60 seconds long or something. He was swimming, and at one point he panics, and he's in fairly shallow water. So you see him put his feet on the ground and he puts his back against it and pushes, and you can see nothing happens. And he keeps on swimming. And his girlfriend is, like, up top, like, trying to freaking out.

[E]

It was.

[D]

It was rough.

[C]

I just got scared thinking about it.

[D]

My good buddies, he's, dude, this kid has gone viral probably five times. You probably know the videos. Ever seen the kid to jump off the cruise ship with a GoPro? Yeah, that's him. Ever see the original video of the kid who was wake surfing and then acted like he's going by himself and then fell off and the boat runs away? Yep, that was him. Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Dude. This guy's a genius, dude.

[D]

And nobody knows him.

[F]

Does he do social media or.

[D]

Yeah, but he's just. Dude, he's. He just has luck. The pages don't tag him and all this. All of his shit's, like, licensed to juking and stuff, and nobody knows him. It's so funny. I would give him for it all the time. He doesn't really care because he's not trying to do social media, but he has done the wildest and never gets credit.

[F]

That's the worst. When you see, like, one of your videos posted reposted on Tik Tok and it's got so many views and there's no credit.

[E]

This guy Keaton already posted.

[A]

Oh, God, Bubba, gross.

[E]

Let's give a shout out to the muscle for posting all of our content for the whole whole weekend before we all posted.

[A]

Guys, go follow him. See everything that we're going to do.

[D]

Yeah, I love how that's just an understanding that we all have, though. Everyone just.

[E]

And why do we let it fly? It's just because it's Keaton, I guess.

[D]

It's. I've had the conversations with him.

[E]

He's just.

[F]

He's.

[D]

That's Keaton.

[E]

He's bigger than all of us.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not telling him what to do.

[F]

What to do either, dude. Yeah, I've tried to, you know, be as. Hey, are you cool if we're, like, filming right now? Cuz, like, you know, everyone kind of wants to just not just be, like, bombarded and, like, filmed when you're not knowing. And I. I hate film.

[E]

No, I didn't get sent to the.

[F]

Speed film at all, but I'm.

[E]

So.

[F]

Yeah, we got some stuff for you guys to sign afterwards. But no, we're so used to just, like, hanging out with, like, our crew and, like, very rare, does, like, somebody new come in. So I always try and be, like, respectful, full of, like, other people that, you know, might not always want to just be, like, blasted on camera. But we didn't.

[D]

We didn't finish the favorite vehicles. We made it to Weston.

[F]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I had the best one.

[D]

You guys, what's yours?

[A]

Wait, no, you gotta say yours.

[D]

I can't.

[E]

You can.

[D]

The Snowcat, the Jeep, the Blackhawk.

[A]

Okay, how about this? How about you pick one that's not yours?

[D]

Snow rail. That snow rose. That thing was. Honestly, I wish everybody had a chance to drive it.

[F]

I wanted to, but something happened.

[A]

You sabotaged me.

[D]

I tried so hard to be on my best behavior, too. You guys missed a real adventure last time. Last year, didn't you get a. Like a. Oh, yeah.

[E]

Oh, no. That was not the one we're talking about.

[D]

We had some aircraft.

[E]

It's the only vid. Well, I'm allowed to show the video at your funeral, right?

[A]

You showed up.

[D]

My funeral.

[E]

Okay, so it's vaulted up.

[D]

Nobody's ever gonna see.

[E]

There's one copy of it in my hands. One copy in Dave's hands. And as long as you haven't sent it to anyone, it. It exists.

[D]

Nowhere we can talk about was an incident. That's all.

[E]

If Dave allows, I could show it.

[D]

After this But I will show you guys off camera.

[F]

And it costs a lot. Cost a lot of money in fixing something.

[E]

Yeah, we're not even worried.

[C]

Mistakes were made.

[D]

Mistakes were made. They weren't even mistakes. We had a. We had a fluke distributor wire pop off, and that led to a whole chain of just.

[E]

No big deal.

[F]

It's funny how that happens.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Let's move on.

[A]

Anyway, what was your favorite vehicle?

[C]

I hate to do it. It's Jeep. I mean, I know it's just so next level that you. You can't even compete with it. The snow rail was awesome too. It just unfortunately, I wanted to ride.

[A]

In the snow rail so bad.

[C]

Yeah, it looked really snowy. That was a nice thing about the Jeep. You just sat in it. The heated seats were on. Dude, the radio was playing dialed.

[E]

It's great.

[D]

And it was dragging your ass through the snow today. Listen, it was pretty impressive.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sorry that nobody said the Ranger Weston.

[A]

That's all right. It's not my favorite. Here, I brought it. You know what a preparation I did. I got back from Florida and literally I'm sitting there and I got back at like four, five o' clock that night. And I'm like, well, yeah, I ought to go. So I call my brother. I'm like, well, you know, I'll just fly out there. And he's like, why don't we take something? I'm like, oh, we don't have anything to take. We don't have anything that'll go. Like, they'll work out there. And I'm just like casually walking by the ranger that I haven't started in three months or done anything with. I'm like, if you start, you're going.

[F]

They're all trembling.

[A]

I threw a battery in that thing.

[B]

Thing.

[A]

And I'm like. And I loaded up, chained it down, all the view.

[E]

See you later.

[F]

I'm curious what you guys that brought trucks on tires were thinking bringing them to a mountain.

[A]

Oh, I really didn't care. I didn't care if it worked. Like, I like, the thing is, I was just out here to have to.

[E]

Show up with something.

[A]

Yeah, Like, I just. Like the thing is, like, I'm like, you know, I just can't show up with no. Like, you know, it's like showing up to golf and went to the putter. You know, you got a great driver. You know, you gotta have some. Something to play with.

[D]

It was a good potluck selection.

[A]

So I think the thing is, like, at the end of the day, I'm like, I know it's not like that. That's not where this thing's supposed to live. It's not supposed to be out here in four feet of snow. And it's also. It wasn't really ready to go on an adventure. But it's like if you're ready for an adventure, you know that thing belongs.

[D]

At a Van Halen concert.

[A]

It would get down at a Van Halen concert, wouldn't it?

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I was loving your early morning tuning.

[F]

You know what?

[A]

It ran so bad. And the thing is, I put the snipe. I put a hallway sniper on and I couldn't figure out why. And I never tested fuel pressure. It takes like 55 or 60 to make it run. Turns out I had the regulator set at 30. Thing ran like a garbage. But I set it on up there. I got it running good enough to make it overheat. There we go. Let's. Let's be going. It was the loudest one here.

[F]

It was, dude.

[A]

It wasn't the power most powerful. It didn't. It got stuck the most. But it was the loudest one here.

[E]

She made some noise.

[A]

Oh, she's a noise making machine.

[D]

Cleto, what about you?

[E]

I'm going. I. Dude, I gotta go with the timber sled. The 450s. The timber sled I was riding.

[F]

Oh, yeah. You're ripping that thing.

[E]

I love that thing. I mean, I know it's not like one of the YouTuber cars, but I just love that thing.

[D]

I hate the front end feeling of timber.

[E]

I love those things.

[D]

Hard, dull feeling.

[E]

And then I also want to say that my second favorite vehicle was the inner tube because I got to see Dave built the most ridiculous slide. That's from the top of the mountain.

[C]

It's more of a death chute, but yeah, it's terrifying.

[E]

He literally forced us to go down. I mean, there was no.

[A]

Yeah, I have. I have video proof. Yeah.

[E]

And I saw George fly through the air and land hair first like, like the top of his head contact the ground. His neck had to flex to a 90 degree angle to absorb the rest of his body pile. Driving it down on top of it.

[D]

It looked even better from the heated seats of the Jeep.

[F]

That was. That was some good old fashioned fun right there. Not a camera in sight. It was dark out.

[E]

Just.

[F]

Just good old living.

[E]

Yeah. And your favorite.

[F]

Oh, dude. I mean, the Jeep was probably the most fun because I was like actually mobbing it. The snow cat was really cool. I've never driven a snow cat, so that was like you know, a dream. Everything was also, like, brand new. So fresh. Doesn't get better than that. And I mean, dude, just watching like, whistling's Monster Max with. With the jet was like, dude, my. My eyes were playing tricks on me.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

But after watching it, I was like, yeah, of course there should be a jet engine on the back of a monster truck. I was like, I can't imagine a monster truck without it. Wouldn't have one, right? Yeah, I was like, it's just they go hand in hand.

[D]

1.

[F]

Then the Lambo that showed up. The off road Lambo dude, that, yeah, he didn't get around very good. But I was like, hey, dude, a for effort for coming.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we stole your Jeep and went and recovered a. A Porsche, by the way.

[D]

Oh, you did?

[A]

Yeah, we did a heavy D recovery video.

[E]

Oh, yeah, dude, I was towing that Lambo out and I accidentally snatched it kind of hard.

[F]

Oh, did you?

[A]

We snatched the Porsche kind of hard, too. And then I hit Hans with the. The track of the Jeep. With the track of the.

[E]

Knock him down.

[A]

Well, no, no, he was in a razor and I was in the Jeep and I hit him.

[E]

Oh, you hit the razor?

[A]

Yeah. And he's like, that's fine. Hit that. I'm like, okay, I already hit it. I just rubbed it a little bit. I'm sorry.

[F]

You know, there was a moment where down in like the meadow, you had the Blackhawk, the bus on tracks, whistling Monster Max. The two. The Lambo and the Porsche were sitting there.

[E]

And then crazy.

[F]

You had the Sandra that was broken, but it was still there, you know? And then our R1 sitting there, Weston coming and, like flying through, like, kept like. You did like four hot laps back and forth, back and forth, but everything.

[A]

You want me to crush that camera? So I was just coming like. And the thing is, the only way that thing works is momentum.

[F]

Momentum.

[A]

You know, this big, white, big field out here in the front by the gate. Like, on the way in, we. I figured out if I get up on top of that hill, I get enough momentum. I get across there, and we got flying across there. And I mean, I'm on top and I just got this thing pinned and I can't find anything else. The steering wheel, the gear shift, nothing. But I got my foot all the way on the gas pedal. We hit these ruts in the middle of that field. The whole ranger left the ground, the whole thing. Leaf springs and ruts in the snow. And it was like. And start doing this violent bouncing. And like, after that, I'm like, oh, God, my back hurts so bad. And then I keep trying to get in and out of that tall thing. I'm like, yeah, okay. I'm kind of over this thing.

[F]

Is that technically just a mud truck?

[A]

I don't know what it is. You don't want to know. It's funny. I don't think anything's about this been shown yet, but I. Technically, I thought it was road legal because it's got windshield wipers, it's got headlights, tail lights.

[F]

That's what you need.

[A]

I thought it was road wiggles hail, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But these guys, these guys from Australia stopped by shop and they're like, let's go to lunch. I'm like, yeah. What's more American than, you know, lunch in a Ford Ranger going Ford Ranger with flames on it on 49s, you.

[F]

Know, these Australians are like, oh, my God, dude.

[A]

Yeah. They'd be like, we. This would be a felony in Australia. And I. I fire it up and we take it to town, go to lunch, right? And then we get out of the place we went to lunch. I'm like, you know, I probably ought to take a back road. I'm like, ah, that's not very American. So I take it right down Main street in Winfield. I turn the corner, and I see a state trooper sitting there. My God, it's not good. And he pulls over, and he just walks up there, pissed as hell. And I know who he is. His name's Bob. I'm like, hey, Bob. What's up, Simone? Hey, Bob. What's up? I don't worry. I shout him out of my video, too. And he walks up there, he's like, weston, what in the are you doing? Oh, man.

[E]

Oh, brother.

[A]

They call my friend name and everything. And he's like, what? How far is the trailer? Like, what do you mean? He's like, how far is the trailer? Where's the trailer at? I'm like, that my shop. He's like, you drove this thing all the way down? Yeah. He's like, well, I suggest you call somebody. Go get the trailer. I'm going to impound it. So there's like. And then the Australian guy sit in the passenger seat's like, hey, can you arrest me for a photo on Instagram? So there's a.

[E]

Not now.

[A]

No. Yeah. So, like, they. He gets out, handcuffs him, sits them on the curb. We get a bunch of photos for Instagram, and then somebody comes and gets the trailer. And then the Ranger won't start because the cooling. The charging system didn't work then either. Just like it didn't work today. So we hook it real close to my trx, pull them both onto the trailer at the same time, don't tie anything down and go back to the shop. Nice sitting there. And like all the guys that work for me, he's like, you know, Bob's gonna be more mad about this.

[D]

I'm like, yeah, gotta make it happen.

[F]

Bob, I love you.

[A]

I'm sending you a Christmas card. I told you I would. Then I will do it. And then they posted on Kansas Highway Patrol Facebook page.

[F]

Really?

[A]

They took, they took a photo of.

[E]

It and said they're trying to get some clicks.

[A]

Yeah, they took, they took a photo of it and said, you know, we pulled this over today for unsafe motor like something. But I wasn't being unsafe.

[F]

We built this RC4 wheeler where I had this RC4 wheeler built.

[E]

Oh, I've seen by the way, I love those dudes.

[F]

Oh yeah, they were. Oh yeah, they built you that gold wing.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah. Super nice guys. We had this four wheeler and, and we're just driving around and we don't have many places to drive it. Right. So we're like getting on the road and we're driving it over to our track, which is close. 500, 500 yards away from our shop. Right. Little stint and anyway I kind of lose track of where this thing is at. We're in the truck, I'm driving it, I'm talking to the boys. Well, I forget that this thing is like a, a full grown four wheeler. Yeah, it hits like our local WI fi and Internet provider box. And it hits the box and, and breaks the post off. And we're like, ah, damn it. Run down there, try and put it back together. But I have like a contact over at like the, the place of like a guy that always comes to my house. So I call him and I was like, hey man, can you just come and make sure that this thing didn't just take out the power for the entire street down below? And he's like, yeah, I'll come and, I'll come and make sure everything's all right. So he comes over, checks it out. He was like, yeah, there's nothing in this box. You're good. We'll just fix it in the spring. Next day I got a call from the local sheriff's office. Hey, yeah, we're just calling to check and see what your plan is with that box that you hit. And I go, well first of all, I didn't hit anything. The four wheeler I was not on that four wheeler, a drone.

[A]

It was an unmanned four wheeler and then rogue.

[F]

And then second, I was like, dude, what? Narcs, man. They just. They just ratted on me that quick. They didn't come and ask, like, what we were going to do about it. But that. That was our recent run in with the sheriff's office. But, you know, they were. They were cool about it. And I was like, yeah, man, we'll. We'll get it fixed and everything.

[A]

But, you know what's funny is I bought my Humvee in California and I had a tag for it, but it kept falling off, so I just threw it in the RV that was following us, you know, so every time as we're driving it across the country, every time that we would see a cop, my videographer pick up and start recording. And I wouldn't really think too much about it. I'm driving home. But this is awful. This just sucks.

[E]

They're terrible vehicles.

[A]

It's terrible vehicles. I still have mine. It's great. It's great to look at. It looks so cool. But it's awful to drive. Anyway, every time we pass a cop like a hundred times all the way back to Kansas, he turns on the camera, hits record cord. Nothing happens. Nobody pulls us over. And then we get like three miles away from Winfield and like five state troopers are sitting next to the road, and he turns it on. He's like, I know this is gonna be the time. Drive right past him. Nobody pulls.

[E]

And Bob let you through, too.

[A]

You know, Bob was asleep. Bob don't work night. It was nighttime. Bob was asleep. But you know, the thing is, is Bob is. Bob is. Bob is fair, but Bob is a long. He's a dick of justice in town, you know, he makes sure that things are. He is very fair, but he is very like, you are going to keep my road safe, damn it. You know what I mean? So I can't give Bob too much grief. But anyway, we get all the way back. He gets my videographer, gets in his car, it perfectly legal. Jeep gets pulled over two blocks away from the missing tagline. The Humvee has no tail lights, no turn signal. It has headlights, no tag. And like, we drive it like 1500 miles across the country, never get pulled over. He gets pulled over for tag light two minutes later.

[C]

Funny about how it goes.

[A]

Yeah, good stuff.

[D]

I once drove a bus from Salt Lake City to Costa Rica with a fake, fake temp tag.

[A]

Wasn't it that bus?

[D]

It was this bus's brother. Okay? I About got him at the same time. But, yeah, I did. I have not driven with a license plate for probably 15 years. I don't. I'm a dealer, so I'm always moving back and forth between different vehicles. I just don't ever get anything licensed. So 2012, we buy this bus and we're going to. Our goal is to drive it to Panama, and we're going to try to do the whole trip in, like, 10 days. It's really hard to get an unregistered vehicle into a foreign country, especially when.

[C]

It'S a commercial vehicle. Makes sense.

[A]

Get all them stolen ones down there.

[D]

Well, we found. We found a way to get the bus in. You basically just have to wait and the border customs lady has to tell you no enough times that she feels like she's doing her job, and then you just offer her money and then you. And then she takes it. We. I was stuck at the border. Three days of the Mexico border, two days at Guatemala border, a day at the Belize border, just.

[F]

So it got lower.

[A]

Yeah. By the time you get to Chile.

[D]

Moral of the story is you paint.

[F]

Come on in.

[D]

You paint Jesu Christo on the side of your bus, and you say you're a church and you're fine.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

But yeah, don't try to take one. Not in your name, you know?

[F]

There you go, Weston. Next time you drive a hump, you crash. I put a church on it.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, hell yeah, dude.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

There we go. I think the thing is, I think everybody see me driving by. It's like, I feel sorry for that man. I'm almost pulling him over. That sounds like a lot of paperwork.

[F]

I think the thing about pulling a guy like you over, though, is, like, you're getting. Make jokes with them, and they're gonna laugh and you're gonna laugh and they're gonna bend you over, spank you a couple times.

[A]

They were my favorite one. One, bro.

[D]

Have you guys ever seen this YouTube channel where the guy buys the mini Jeep and goes to Moab?

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes. That guy has the most underrated channel. It's. It's the best channel on YouTube.

[A]

The first video of that when it had 12,000 views, and I'm like, that. That.

[E]

What video is it?

[A]

He bought a. Like a. A go kart Jeep.

[E]

Drove it really far.

[D]

He drove it. He shipped it to Utah and drove it to. From top of Utah to Moab.

[A]

He took a really up route that took a thousand miles.

[D]

That dude is so underrated. What's his name?

[A]

He blew up the.

[D]

I don't remember to look up Moab C90s adventures.

[E]

I want to shout out a YouTube channel too. That's underrated. This guy Nathan car. Who. Have you guys seen that guy does like burnouts and drive throughs at McDonald's in that.

[F]

What?

[E]

In that regular cab Silverado.

[A]

Let me see. Is this a thing?

[E]

Bro, this kid. Oh, he had the U haul that he welded. The diffin was drifting it. Bro. This kid, I've been watching his videos, cuz he did some savage stuff and he just made this like 7 minute long apology video and was like, don't do what I do on the streets. It was. It was pretty funny. But.

[C]

C90 Adventures, it's one of the.

[D]

Most entertaining pages I've ever found.

[A]

We're giving shout out.

[C]

Guy needs subscribers. Dude. Edgun Leishi, he shoots squirrels with this like super high powered airsoft rifles and he's just got like, like scope cams. Dude, it's. It's so good. I think I'm also Peter's outdoors.

[A]

I think I'm more McDonald's kind of thing.

[E]

Yeah, everyone's got to shout out one. One YouTube channel before we extending the olive branch.

[A]

And then we're Western Champlain too.

[B]

Dude.

[F]

I love it.

[A]

It.

[F]

Dude. Shout out to all of your guys's YouTube channels. Thanks for coming on our podcast and taking the time. I think we're like over two hours.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

We told you guys like. Yeah, maybe just 30 minutes. So we really.

[A]

I knew that.

[F]

Really appreciate it.

[E]

I knew it was a lie too.

[A]

Yeah, we knew it was a lot. He's like 20 minutes. You like?

[E]

You.

[A]

You cool to jump on?

[B]

Well, the good thing is is that it was going so well. We enjoyed talking to you guys so much that we just did the whole thing with you guys.

[A]

So the question is, how many bleeps are gonna be in it?

[F]

None.

[D]

Zero, actually.

[F]

I don't know. We might actually have to start doing that. I'll talk to you about that though. Yeah, I think we might be getting throttled.

[A]

Throttled.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, well, Dave needs to get back to his snow cat. Guys, there's.

[A]

That whole place out there is not ungroomed. You've been falling behind.

[F]

Hey, thank you guys for watching. Thank you guys for coming on the podcast. We love you and we'll see you in the next one.

[E]

Hell yeah, brother.

[A]

Beep.