From Broke To X Games Gold Medalist: Brett Turcotte

Summary

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From Broke to X Games Gold Medalist: Brett Turcotte

Date: October 11, 2022
Location: 509 Headquarters, Spokane, WA
Special Guests: Brett Turcotte, Nikki Turcotte, Jay Mentaberry, Blaine Matthews

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt, energetic episode, the CboysTV crew hosts legendary snowmobiler Brett Turcotte and his wife Nikki at 509’s headquarters. The discussion centers on Brett’s journey from humble beginnings in a small Canadian town to becoming a multi-gold medalist at the X Games, the highs and lows of professional snowmobiling, balancing family and career, and the power of partnership. Later in the episode, pro riders Jay Mentaberry and Blaine Matthews join to riff on professional vs. personal life, mountain culture, and the future of snowmobiling.

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Key Sections and Timestamps

• [00:00] - Brett’s Early Years: Small Town Dreams
• [04:00] - From Racing to Freestyle: Evolution of a Career
• [08:00] - X Games Glory and Personal Sacrifices
• [12:00] - Trick Talk: Backflips, Front Flips & Foam Pit Scars
• [30:30] - Introducing Nikki: The “Power Couple” Dynamic
• [41:00] - Turning Passion into Surviving—And Thriving
• [55:00] - Turcotte Family Life, Backyard Tracks, and Community
• [68:00] - Jay & Blaine: Pro Riders, Friends, Normal Dudes

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Brett Turcotte: From Clearwater to X Games Gold

Origins and Hometown (00:45–02:27)

• Grew up in Clearwater, BC—a “super small town”, where “my grandma was my delivery nurse.”
• Early dreams weren’t focused solely on snowmobiling. Sports like hockey were his first love, but he was “always protecting my brother, the goalie, a bit too hard for kid’s hockey” (03:03).

Natural Progression into Snowmobiling (02:27–04:01)

• Snowmobiling started as a family activity; Brett’s dad owned a Polaris dealership.
• “I just grew into it naturally…if my dad wanted to ride, he had to bring me” (03:55).

Racing Roots and Transition to Freestyle (04:05–07:38)

• Started career in racing, securing his first X Games medal in 2008 in Snow Cross.
• Eventually transitioned to freestyle/backcountry filming with Slednecks.
• “I was working full time logging. I had to pay my dues”—highlighting humble, hard-working beginnings.

The Role of Nikki, and Chasing the Dream (05:46–06:25)

• Nikki, his now-wife, encouraged him to take the leap: “She gave me like the support and the nudge to push.”
• Brett credits Nikki for shifting his focus from being a “full-time logger, part-time filmer” to “full-time filmer, full-time X Games” competitor.

“She said, ‘What do you want to do with your life?’ I said, ‘Win more X Games medals.’ She said, ‘So why aren’t you doing that?’” – Brett (05:46)

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X Games Battles, Pain, and Triumph (08:06–12:22)

• Medal Count: Three golds, four silvers, two bronze.
• 2018 Double Gold: Fresh off a serious injury (broken tailbone and ankle), Brett doubled down, “dedicating every ounce of energy” to a comeback.
• The pressure and sacrifice felt at home: “Missed putting Hudson to bed…and my other two kids…But for me that was a goal.” (09:36)

“I wanted to do things on snowmobiles that hadn’t ever been done. So I’d go to the foam pit and just beat the…out of myself.” – Brett (09:36)

• Memorable showdown with Levi LaVallee: “If I was going to beat him anywhere, it was on the tricks.”

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Tricks, Innovation, and Near Misses (12:23–26:49)

The Backflip King (12:23–13:56)

• Loves backflips and pushing the envelope with tricks like the tsunami backflip (“do a handstand under your sled mid-flip”).
• “Sometimes I get tripped out…my favorite trick is a tsunami backflip!”

Foam Pits vs. Airbags (17:48–20:58)

• Transition from dangerous foam pits to airbags standardized during Brett’s progression.
• “I’ve been hurt more in the foam pit trying tricks than actually riding…Had to not even go back in for a week, I was so banged up.” (18:58)

“People think you can just throw anything into a foam pit. Man, it hurts worse than landing the trick!” – Brett (20:16)

• Detailed explanation of front flip attempts—both his own and Heath Frisbee’s world’s first (21:12–26:49).
• Survived a massive crash attempting a front flip for Real Snow: “I punched the dash and shattered the tip of my finger off.”

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Real Life, Family Balance, Finances, and Pressure (30:33–47:46)

Partner in Life and Work: Nikki’s Impact (30:33–41:22)

• Nikki is more than a “sidekick”—she’s Brett’s manager, motivator, and crucial support in tough times.
• Tales of Nikki’s unexpected fan club at Haydays and supporting Brett through injuries, doubts, and the hard financial realities of the sport.

“If it weren’t for her…doing the things she does to support my career…it wouldn’t be what it is.” – Brett (40:07)

Financial Realities and “All-In” Mentality (41:22–47:46)

• After injury, the family bet everything to make Aspen and the X Games: “We had $1,000 in our account, skipped three mortgage payments, borrowed money from my dad…‘If you don’t come home with a gold medal, we’re done.’” – Nikki (41:48)
• Success, but at incredible risk: dispelling myths about snowmobile athletes “living in mansions, eating gourmet meals.”
• “When I met Brett, he couldn’t even afford to put gas in his truck…I put everything I had into the dream.” – Nikki (45:06)

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Building a Life: Brand, Backyard, and Community (55:00–66:07)

• Community and Family: Four kids, “$200,000 worth of mountain bikes and snowmobiles” in the garage, backyard dirt tracks, and pit bike parties.
• Neighbors: Some issues with noise, but generally a “Turcotte Resort” atmosphere.
• Surron Racing: Backyard racing series grew into a western Canada phenomenon.
• Transition to Content Creation: Brett’s YouTube channel offers a candid, real look into the day-to-day (“the Turcotte brand is becoming more than just me”).

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Power Couple Reflections (66:10–66:52)

• Nikki and Brett’s dynamic is about mutual support—Nikki is the people person and party liaison, while Brett maintains discipline and focus.
• Fun stories about managing the “real world” and making key industry connections in unexpected ways (“she makes the best deals after midnight”—Brett).

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From Athlete to Everyday, With Jay and Blaine (68:00–90:00)

Introducing Jay Mentaberry & Blaine Matthews (68:00–73:44)

• Friendly banter about racing roots, mountain life, and the difference between “athlete” and “real person.”
• Both underscore that pros are “a couple of guys that like to drink beer,” hang out, and enjoy life.

Mountain Culture, Openness, and Passion (75:20–93:47)

• “We do this because of the people involved, not just the riding.”
• Broader philosophy: balancing competitive drive with enjoying camaraderie and the outdoors.
• CboysTV’s more casual, fun approach inspires pro riders to “show the human side” of their lives.
• Passion is universal, regardless of skill—opening snowmobiling up to newcomers.

“Any day on the mountain is a good day for us.” – Jay (91:51)

“The progression of you guys—that pushes us. Some of our favorite days are riding with people who are learning.” – Blaine (92:21)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On taking risks:
  “We did spend every dollar that we had to get there [X Games]. People think you go win millions...if you don’t go win X Games, from where I’m from, you go broke.” – Brett (43:42)
• On Nikki’s influence:
  “You need to quit your job and go be a full time snowmobiler. I’ll look after the back end.” – Nikki (40:07)
• On learning and community:
  “The industry is changing. Everyone has dark days, but the highs will be better.” – Nikki (40:53)
• On foam pit pain:
  “I’ve been hurt more in the foam pit learning tricks than actually on the snowmobile!” – Brett (18:58)
• On “power couple” status:
  “People see Nikki and associate me, and people see me and ask, ‘Where’s Nikki?’” – Brett (39:59)

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Closing Reflections

This episode is a rich, personal window into the life of an elite athlete and his family—unvarnished and real. Brett Turcotte’s story is not just about medals and tricks, but about risk, family, grit, and trust. Nikki’s role as both partner and manager, as well as their decision to bet it all for a dream, highlight the human side that’s often hidden behind highlight reels. The candor continues with Jay and Blaine, who demolish the myth that pro athletes are unapproachable, showing the true sense of community, passion, and good-natured mischief that makes snowmobiling culture so magnetic.

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Connect with the Guests

• Brett Turcotte:
  YouTube: Brett Turcotte
  Instagram: @turcotte16

• Nikki Turcotte:
  Instagram: @nikki.turcotte

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Transcript

[A]

Alrighty, guys. Welcome back to the Life Wide Open podcast. We have a bit of a special edition here this week. We're at 509's headquarters in Spokane, Washington, and we have the man, the myth, the legend, Brett Turcotte on.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he had all of it right, except for the legend part of it.

[C]

Oh, I was thinking there's all kinds of athletes crawling out there or at least showing up, and we somehow got the best one sitting next to us here.

[B]

Well, if you're not. What do you mean?

[C]

Yeah, dude, this is exciting. There's a little bit of a kickoff to the 509 headquarters. Brick and mortar store, I like to call it. So all us and all the athletes. I love everyone's. David's very clear about that. The athletes are coming. Meet the athletes and seaboys, because they are not athletes. And that's accurate.

[A]

Yeah, not athletes for sure. So you made it down to America.

[B]

We made it, dude. Honestly, today it was like gnarly. We were up early with my dad. Nikki and I were up at like 5 in the morning to go try and get an elk. We were going to get an elk. Here's how it was supposed to play out. We're gonna get an elk. We're gonna just leave my dad with it to deal with it and then come down here and hang with you guys and. And do this 509 kickoff to party. But the elk was on the other side of the river. It was foggy, we couldn't see, so we pulled the pin, got down here nice and early, and now we're sitting down, having a good time.

[A]

So did you drive from your house? Where do you live now?

[B]

Kamloops, bc. So, like, pretty much smack dab, center interior, British Columbia.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Pretty much the best spot for me as an athlete for snowmobiling to be because within two hours of any direction is the best snowmobiling in North America and maybe even the world.

[A]

Revelstoke, right? Or where's your idea?

[B]

Revelstoke is like the visual.

[A]

The visual best.

[B]

The back pocket. The back pocket doors are. Yeah, they're not in Revelstoke.

[A]

Okay. The ones that we don't speak of.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, the ones that I'd say we don't even know about.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Yeah. And that's the best kept secret. And you just go north of Kamloops and you'll find it.

[A]

That's awesome.

[C]

Where in British Columbia did you grow up?

[B]

Actually an hour north of Kamloops in Clearwater, bc. Small. Super small. Town, like, small enough that my grandma was my delivery nurse.

[A]

Okay. Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Were you born in, like, a bathtub or.

[B]

No? Damn near, dude. Yeah, small hospital. Okay. Yeah, small hospital. My. My grandma was a nurse there, and she. She delivered me and my brother, actually, so.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah, pretty. Pretty neat story. And just grew up in this small town with. With big dreams, and here we are.

[C]

So the big dream started at a young age, so that's.

[A]

Yeah. What we wanted to get into. When. When did you know that you wanted a career in snowmobiling?

[B]

I don't know if it was ever really a want. It was just kind of something, like, developed, you know, it was like, you know, I was in hockey, and I told David the kind of the same story. I was in hockey, and. And they put me on defense because I was kind of like a chunkier kid and my brother was the goalie. So I just go in and I clean the crease, and finally the. The refs would, like, come over and talk to my parents after the game. Like, you got to tell your boy, like, you can't be doing that. Like, there's not the NHL, you know, And I was like, well, I'm going to play hockey for a living.

[D]

That.

[B]

And, you know, my brother was a goalie. He's a really good goalie, and it was my job to protect him. But when you're 8 and 9 years old, cross checks from behind don't really fly. So, yeah, you know, I made the decision kind of cumulatively with my family, with. With everybody around me that, you know, I wasn't going to play hockey anymore, and the next best thing that I could do with my. With my dad was to go snowmobiling. And, yeah, I just. It was a crazy whirlwind from the time that I'm, you know, Hudson's age. He's six now. It's a crazy flashback to. To put myself kind of in those shoes, you know, and, like, if I wanted to go snowmobiling, it was with my dad, and if he wanted to go snowmobiling, he had to bring me, you know, so it was kind of because my mom would take my brother to the rink, so I kind of just grew into it naturally. He had a snowmobile dealership, actually had a Polaris dealership. So in my career, it went full circle. I started on Polaris, went to a couple other brands. Here I am back on Polaris, and, yeah, I feel right at home.

[A]

So did you start in freestyle or did you start in racing?

[B]

Started in racing. And Actually, my first X Games medal was in racing in Snow Cross in 2008. I was racing on the Blair Morgan race team, which was like kind of the coveted team. So if you were to compare that to Supercross, right now that's like the pro circuit team, right? Or like factory Kawasaki or you know, like at the highest level that you could be at. Yeah, we were competing against Tucker Hibbert and yeah, you guys from being from Minnesota backyard. Yeah, for sure. And you know, it was always the, the Blair versus Tucker battle.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And so Blair developed this team and, and I got to race on it and you know, I got to, you know, have some success there. And just moment in, moment in time, I just decided that the racing wasn't really going down the road that my life was. And I just made the decision that I'm going to stick around home and, and just do this free ride thing and, and I did. One of my first years was in 2009 with the slednecks and I was riding one of my old race sleds, my practice sled that the team had given me. And you know, I was doing all of these, these big things and I always, I'd always seen these sledneck movies when I was growing up and I was like, man, I'd love to be there. And, and I got there and I was like, whoa, this is reality now. Like, I like, there's something here. And. But I was working full time. I was logging, you know, as you know, I had to like pay my dues.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And. And then I met my wife Nikki and she seen what I was doing, but then also was like, yeah, you know, like, working is cool, but like, I think that there's something more for you. So she kind of gave me like the support and the nudge to push.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

To take my career from full time logger, part time filmer, the other way around to just like full time filmer, full time X Games. She goes like, you know, what do you want to do with your life? And I was like, well, I want to win more X Games medals. And she goes, okay, so why aren't you doing X Games? And I kind of had to like explain the process and I hadn't done backflips, I hadn't really done a bunch of freestyle tricks. And she goes, well, I've seen the way that you ride. Like, you know how to do those things. Like, why aren't you doing them? And yeah, for sure. Like, I owe it all to her to, you know, that was the, that was the push that I needed to get my career going to. To where it is now.

[C]

Right. Because that was kind of. My question was, like, you. You obviously knew that you were capable of some sort of free riding, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You had all these years of riding under your belt. Yeah. I was like, when was this transition of you being, like. It was it one day you had out with all those guys. Super awesome. But then you just said it was like, her.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Pushing you.

[B]

And I think that it was planted in my brain the night that I was, like, pretty drunk after my first X Game Snow cross metal. And my manager at the time. It was the first year that they ever did freestyle at X Games, and Levi had won, but he was also racing snow cross and didn't place. And he kind of, like, pulled me to the side, and he's like, what do you think about that freestyle stuff? He's like, you think you can backflip a snowmobile? I'm like, if I had the resources, man, anything's possible. And then it wasn't long after that I quit racing and then went down low, like, free ride. You know, I. I did the free ride thing where it was like. It was in the backcountry. We were shoveling jumps. That was just like. That was just personal expression. It wasn't for recognition. Uh, although I did have one moment where kind of like, set myself apart in those years with that huge GoPro drop. Yeah. So like, went pretty viral on. On Facebook and YouTube, which, like, clips.

[C]

Like that few and far between at the time.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Like, GoPros were, like, this huge thing. Right. Like, mounted it to your helmet in this clear case and had terrible audio. And, you know that that singular clip actually landed my Monster Energy contract.

[A]

Really?

[B]

And that, like, backcountry, right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Strictly as a backcountry athlete for, you know, just making films. And Nikki came into my life at the right time and kind of saved me and showed me a path that has led us to this insane lifestyle that I now call my job.

[A]

Okay, how many X Games gold medals do you have?

[B]

I got three golds, four silvers and one bronze. Actually, two bronze because I found a spare one the other day.

[A]

You know, you got a lot.

[C]

Surprised me at all.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And two of them came in one year, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

To the golds.

[B]

Yeah. 2018 double golds. Insane. This. The backstory behind that one is so deep and so gnarly. Nikki and I just got married 2017, in the spring, in May. A week later, I snap myself on Snap myself off on a dirt bike, break my tailbone, break my ankle. We spent our honeymoon in the hospital. You know, I was laid up, and I was like, having just like, those dark days or those down days where I'm like, is this really what I should be doing? Like, we've got a young family together, or, you know, we've got a house with a mortgage and, like.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That had to have had at least one of those moments.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like natural thoughts after a bad injury is like, do I really want to do this?

[B]

Yeah. And so, you know, we. We kind of did it the natural way, and. And Nikki got me back on my feet, and within three months again, I was. I was back riding dirt bikes. And that. That season, I just dedicated everything that I possibly could. Every ounce of energy, every ounce or every minute of time was. Was focused towards, like, a big comeback and. And shows.

[C]

Yeah, it definitely does.

[D]

For sure.

[C]

Lucky enough for you, you're able to put that time in, but when you do it, it shows.

[B]

Yeah. And it comes at sacrifice. You know, there's times where I missed putting Hudson to bed and missed getting Hannah to the bus in the morning and. And, you know, my other two kids and. And. But for me, that was. That was such a drive in my life. That was. That was a goal. Right? I had. I had one silver medal and I had a bronze at that time. And I was like, there's. There's more. There's. Yeah, there's more for me. And. And for me, it was. It was kind of personal. It was. I wanted to do things on snowmobiles that hadn't ever been done. And so I'd go to the foam pit and just beat the. Out of myself for hours on end each day until I got these tricks nailed. Then I would take them to the airbag and land them, and I would send Nikki the video because she's at home, like, managing the family and making sure that the bills are getting paid. And my sponsors are happy and we're producing content, you know, and I was just, like, so channel focused on. On one goal and to go in there. I won the first one against Levi. It was really cool in speed and style. I don't know that I have ever had a battle with Levi that I've won. If you go back and watch the footage, you could tell that he, like, had a bit of a. You know, he was. He was aggressive and. And that was how it was like to race Levi Lavali. Like, that's. That's who he is. You Know.

[A]

Yeah, it's so cool that we've actually been able to have conversations with both of you, because you two are two of the, like, strongest, tallest pillars in the snowmobile industry.

[B]

You said tall man and him and I.

[A]

But, like, it's cool because Monster and Red Bull, it was almost like a. A pretty, like, cool back and forth type of thing you guys had going.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. You know, and. And battling him, I. I knew that he was gonna try and push me off the track or get inside of me, you know, But I was so focused on my tricks because I knew that, you know, if I was going to beat him anywhere, it was probably gonna be on the tricks. And, you know, if you go. Go back and watch the footage, you can see that I stayed close to him for quite a while, and then I opened up a gap, and that was because the snow from his snowmobile was going into. Into the intake of my motor, and it was, like, causing my motor to run very bad. And. And so then I was, like, ingesting water, and my sled was blurbling and doing all sorts of weird stuff, and I'm trying to hit these ramps and do backflips, you know, and I'm like, oh, man, I got to give him some space. And at that point, I was like, cable. I'm either gonna win on style. Like, I can't win on speed. I can't be this close to him. And that one. I mean, as much as it was a TV show was. Was a movie. Like, yeah, they wait. They made us wait so long to announce who the winner was. And. And, yeah, that moment. I'll never forget that one. Nikki was right there behind me with Hudson. Hudson was just tiny, you know? Like, I remember Nikki, like, hanging her off of the hip, and. And you go back and watch the footage, and we experienced that as a family, and my dad's there, and that's. And, yeah, it was really awesome. And then to back that up with a freestyle gold the next night was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Was pretty wild.

[A]

You're kind of like the king of snowmobile backflips, I feel like.

[B]

Yeah, just. Man, I really like pulling back, I think.

[A]

So that's your, like, favorite move to do on a sled, right?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Anything that you can, like, pull back or ride away from, you know? Like, I've been doing re entries and doing 180s and stuff since I was, like, a kid in 2005, 2006. Like, doing the big 180 stuff is kind of. It's gone for me. Now it's that. That sort of thrill, I guess I'd.

[C]

Say, like, as of late, too. Most. Most pictures that people see of you, like Carter's trailer for stoked. The stoke trailer you just had wrapped, you're upside down on it. That's not. That's not uncommon at all.

[A]

Yeah. The main door in here, you're upside down. You look at, you go, is that picture upside down? You're like, nope, just Brad.

[B]

Sometimes I get tripped out because, like, my favorite tricks to do is, like, a tsunami backflip. So I'll get the snowmobile to do a backflip, and then I'll do a handstand underneath of it while it's flying upside down. You'd actually take that picture and flip it 180. And it works that way. It's the same way, because I could do that trick upside down or right side up.

[A]

You pulled one of those at heydays, I believe. And I was standing watching. It was Sunday, and I texted you about it, and when you went around, it seemed like it took a bit longer than normal to come around on it.

[B]

Yeah, it felt like an eternity. And I. And, you know, it's one of those things where it's, like, probably one of the gnarlier tricks in my.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In my bag, but it's also the one that I'm the most comfortable with. And it's just. It's. Yeah. You pull hard, and you step off the back and hope that the sled's gonna fly around your head.

[A]

Yeah, dude. It's so gnarly. But the crowd, it. Everybody was streaming, but that was electric.

[B]

For a Sunday crowd.

[A]

Yeah, you hear the whole. A whole field of people start roaring after something like that. So sweet.

[B]

I was hoping for that trick on Saturday, and it just didn't work out for me. I had a little bit of radiator issues. Blaine. I was hoping for that trick on Saturday. It just didn't work out. The big crowd was there, but I had a radiator issue on the back of my snowmobile, had a small leak in the Wal waffles, and it was a pretty steady drip out of there, so had to shut the snowmobile down and kind of just enjoy the dirt bike while I had it. And as soon as that show was done, I went back into the pits, grabbed as much JB weld as I could, and I just started filling every seam and every crack that I could of that radiator to try and be ready for Sunday.

[A]

It is pretty gnarly that normally you would think of when you're doing that, people would be like, oh, I can't do that. I can't do that on my sled. You know, I got a leak in the radiator or whatever. And you're just like, no, JB welded up like you. You do all the normal TR that we do around the shop too, just to get the thing to run right. And I mean, you're still throwing gnarly tricks on it.

[C]

I think there is something to be said about like, it's. So it's your favorite trick. You said sometimes it feels like the easier trick to do. Sometimes in a way, in a weird way, sometimes I would rather do that.

[B]

Trick than just a straight back.

[C]

Right. But it's like. And then there is moments like people have seen you do that maybe multiple times, at least on YouTube or social media. But then when you don't do it Saturday. Well, what's he pushing out for? But there is, there's a lot of.

[A]

Yeah, buddy. You hit that freestyle ramp.

[C]

It's awesome.

[B]

We.

[C]

We've been to, I don't know, a hand.

[A]

Jackson.

[C]

Jackson. And then heydays. And then. No, I guess me and a couple buddies were at Nitro Rally Cross when you were there too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's fun. Usually Nikki is right there watching you. Like, I mean, you at this point don't even seem nervous anymore.

[A]

But I was gonna ask, I wanted to actually if we could maybe somebody pulling Nikki.

[B]

But does Nikki get your handed.

[A]

Does Nikki get nervous for you? Because I saw after that flip, she was walking around, she went like this. You look nervous.

[B]

I actually believe that when I stopped and pulled up to her and she. You're such an. Why did you go and do that? It's Sunday. She's actually the one that pushed me to do those tricks to begin with. So it's double edged sword for. It stresses her out. I mean, that's dangerous.

[C]

Right?

[B]

We got a family, we got bills to pay, we got, you know, the list goes on. But she's confident in my abilities. She can see it. She can tell from the time that I wake up in the morning how the day is gonna go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so perfect example.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I leave the Coeur d' Alene show, which is about two weeks before heydays, and I rode said snowmobile at Coeur d' Alene. And I go home and I, I take that snowmobile apart and I'm going through stuff and I, I have my flip levers off, which is the, the parts that I flip up. And when I'm doing backflips and I'm doing that trick, they hold me to the snowmobile while I'm rotating around. So I had those off because I was doing something to the bars and I looked at her and. And I'm kind of just like, I don't know if I want to bring those this weekend, you know, like, it's heydays. Like, I got lots going on. It's going to be.

[C]

Because then it wouldn't pressure you.

[B]

It's going to be hectic, you know. And she looks at me, she knows me better than myself. She goes, you know that if you don't put those on, you're gonna be pacing around heydays looking for somebody that's got a set, because feeling good, like, you got a 600 mod, it's loud, it's really fun to ride, and you're gonna want to go and do your biggest trick. And at that moment, I was like, okay, they're getting bolted on. I suppose you're right, you know, and yeah, just given the circumstances at haydays, it's a gnarly show. It's in the middle of a. I don't want to call it a gravel pit, but it's the sand. It's 300ft by 300ft wide sandbox.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're jumping snowmobiles inside of it and. Yeah.

[A]

In the middle of August or.

[B]

Yeah, middle of August. I mean.

[C]

So was there ever a time, I guess as far as freestyle went, was there ever a time when there. When airbags were not a common thing or AK didn't even exist?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I. I feel like I stepped into the freestyle game right when airbags were becoming a thing. That being said, a lot of the tricks that I learned prior to my double gold medal year was learn them in the foam pit. Foam to snow, you know, really? And that was like a gnarly equation because when we were training at Demello's place in, in Southern bc, like, he doesn't get much snow there, like a few inches at a time. So we would grab his kids steer, and we would just scrape up as much snow as we could and put it up onto one of his freestyle motocross landings. And then you get like four or five hits and then all the snow just gets washed off. Right.

[C]

Sounds terrifying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I did that for like three years. And then finally airbags became a thing.

[C]

And bag jump, and that seemed like a no brainer.

[B]

Yeah. Because now all of a sudden. Yeah, now all Of a sudden, we're putting this airbag on the top of a frozen dirt landing, and you're actually not even feeling the dirt. So that changed the game. Learning the tricks, though, is still to foam. And people have this gnarly image of these foam pits are just like, do anything you want into them, you know.

[A]

Don'T they still hurt?

[B]

Oh, man. I've had.

[C]

Things can happen.

[B]

I've been hurt more in the foam pit trying snowmobile tricks than I have been actually on my snowmobile riding, you know, like, yeah, there's, you know, Nikki can attest to it and. And, you know, Shitty Nick, my mechanic. Like, it's hard on snowmobiles and it's hard on the body, and. And when you're trying these tricks and, and, and pushing yourselves and trying to push the sport of snowmobiling, it gets, like, at one year, I'm going to call it 2019. I wrote it down in my journal, actually. I became scared of the foam pit. I had to, like, just not foam pit ride for over a week because I was so banged up and so beat up. And I just, like, had this image in my mind that if I jump into this foam pit, it's going to hurt, you know, and so I, like, that was a mental block for me. I had to. I had to, like, park the sled and not jump the sled into the foam pit. So, yeah, airbags kind of open it up. Because anytime you can ride away from a trick, it feels so much better than getting. If you nail it and then you just onto the snowmobile and. And driving into that, into that foam. Like, there's been times where I hit the bottom of the pit. There's been times where I've been folded upside down or folded in half upside down underneath my snowmobile, and it's dripping gas into my eye, and I'm wondering if I'm going to catch on fire. Like.

[A]

Yeah. Waiting for the crane to come and Yankee out of the thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If the guys can get to you and if you get hurt in there, like, it feels like an eternity.

[A]

I bet. I just. I never knew that, like, being a guy who just watched people going to foam pits, you know, you watch like, Travis and Nitro Circus and all that, you go, oh, yeah, they just do in the foam pit. It's okay. It's all cool. And the more that we've talked to people who have experience with them, they go, no, they. They hurt it. Yeah, it hurts worse than landing the trick, that's for sure.

[B]

Perfect example would Be like, if you. If you had a puddle of water and you took a piece of bread, call it toast, and you. And you dropped it straight up and down into the water, and it kind of like falls through it and then just kind of washes out. Like, the dirt bike falls through the foam and kind of takes a lot of, like, it slices through the foam. Whereas, like, the snowmobile. Be like if you took the piece of bread and laid it flat and you drop it onto the water, just slaps, catches, you know, there's so much surface area with the skis and the track and everything that the foam helps, but it's certainly. That's not soft.

[A]

Yeah. You've been working on a trick I've seen. I believe the video I saw.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You doing it was in the back country. The front flip.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Has anybody front flipped a snowmobile?

[B]

Yeah. Heath Frisbee did it. I. I can't quote the year because I'll get it wrong, but Heath Frisbee did it in the X Games in best trick. Like, so gnarly, dude. And so committed. He spent an entire season committed to that front flip. And I was like, okay, like, it's possible. I don't want to go do it to the foam pit because I seen how terrifying it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just believed in my abilities and believed in my skill and was like, I'm just gonna take this thing to snow.

[A]

And you did it in the backcountry, right? Or did you practice?

[B]

No, I was in the man. No practice necessary. I mean, obviously it was necessary, but I just. I didn't. Didn't really feel like I needed to.

[C]

I.

[B]

In my mind, I was landing that one and riding away, and, you know, unfortunately, it just didn't really go the way that I had anticipated. And I got splatted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Essentially like a, you know, fly swatter with a. With a bug.

[C]

So were you okay?

[A]

Yeah. What was. I mean, recovery on that?

[B]

I mean, I was walking. Yeah.

[A]

That's what I mean. That, like a truck. Like, that is like. I think David had called us, and he was like, Brett crashed. And like, it could have been really bad, but he's okay.

[B]

Like 15 minutes later, I, like, stand up and I'm like, where did all of these people come from?

[A]

Oh, so that guy.

[B]

But I had, like, a 25 person crew with me the entire day.

[D]

Whoa.

[A]

Okay. So kind of could never work us through it.

[C]

Okay. This was for your real snow.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So there was a bit of a crew. That's cool. Yeah.

[B]

Huge crew. So in that day, I had landed a world's first, and I had this, like, aspiration. I'm gonna do three worlds first in three days.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so I did a. The day before, I did a tsunami backflip snow to snow. The following day, we went and built this huge flip jump, and I did a secret backflip snow to snow. And then in that same afternoon, I'm like, okay, I'm feeling it. This is good. Like, let's go find this front flip spot. And I was just checking boxes, you know, and, like, had motivation and obviously some confidence, and I was feeling good, and. And the crew around me was very supportive, and we had a safety plan, and we found this front flip spot, and I built the little cheater bump in it. And, you know, that is supposed to be only as wide as the track is, right. And the skis don't hit that. And so the front of the snowmobile skid is supposed to hit that cheater bump and put all of the inertia into the back end of the snowmobile. And it should be pushing me on my heels and, like, trying to buck me over the bars.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

That didn't happen. The. I watched the footage back, and the. The nose of the snowmobile smeared that cheater bump out because you hit it so fast.

[A]

It just.

[B]

Yeah, it was, like, too abrupt and it was too soft. I should have, like, let it set overnight. So it was, like, rock hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, yeah, the nose going to that. The nose going. The snowmobile just, like, smeared that bump flat, and it was basically, like, a pretty flat lip. So I was trying to front flip off of something that, like, not to take it away from you guys, but, like, something you guys would, you know, exactly. Like. Like, it wasn't consequential. Like, there was a bit of a downhill landing. It was like a tabletop jump. Lip wasn't crazy steep, but that little center section was. Was supposed to be the. The make or breaker. Yeah.

[A]

Did you know immediately, like, you felt.

[C]

It, like, oh, crap. Oh, this is.

[E]

Nice.

[C]

I'm sorry I had to do that. What do you think of him, by the way? Seems nice. Great guy.

[B]

Yeah. I knew right away, man. I went off of the lip, and I grabbed a handful of break and I pinched the tunnel, and I leaned forward, and I looked through my elbow. Right. Because I've.

[C]

Yeah, it was full commitment.

[B]

Yeah. I look through my elbow, and I'm dragging in my heels, and I see lip go by, and then I see sky, and I see sky, and I see sky, and I'm like, oh, man, it's not going white. Like, I was expecting to see snow again. And I'm. I'm doing all this looking through my elbow in about 0.5 of a second, you know? Yeah, it's. And it's registering, and I'm like, I'm dead. Like, I. I'm looking through my elbow like this. And last minute, I just look straight up and get linear with the snowmobile and just got hot tubbed. Like, I. I was a little bit separated from the snowmobile, and I held onto the bars, and when the snowmobile punched me into the hole, I was actually hanging on bars so hard that they snapped off on each side of the riser. And I punched the dash and shattered the tip of my finger off.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Close. Close to losing it. You know, like Cody Matichon, Cody McNulty were there, and they come and flip the sled off and they peel me out of the hole and. And it was kind of like the. The roadrunner scenario, you know, they're like peeling out of the hole. Yeah. And I'm like, man, I can't feel my finger. I can't feel my finger. And they like, take my moto glove off, and I'm like, how is it? And Cody looks at me. He's like, it's gonna be fine. He like, grabs whatever is the closest and just covers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, But I like, got up, walked away from it.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's crazy.

[B]

Didn't. Didn't have a.

[C]

The somewhat beauty of snow. The fact that you got punched in.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Had somewhere to go versus.

[B]

Yeah. Like, that was. To a landing out of a different story. It probably wouldn't be here right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That was kind of the mentality. And like, I'm. I'm. I'm either going to land this thing or I'm going to get flown out of here, you know, that's why we had a safety plan. We knew where cell service was. We had search and rescue. We knew what time the helicopter could fly until, like, it was down to, like, within the 20th minute. You know, like, we called, got the heli on its way and. And got me. Got me loaded up and. And I was talking to the pilot on the. On the flight out because I was filming and kind of like just kind of messing around, you know, pretty concussed and.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, oh, this is a nice way to leave the mountain. And I'm like, watching all of my buddies ride their snowmobiles out along the ridge. Like, it was actually pretty peaceful for what went on an hour before then.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

But, yeah, just having good people around me definitely made me want to do that one. And I wouldn't say that it's off of the table, but I. It's not something that I'm looking at right now, you know, I mean, I.

[C]

Think just you trying it is. That's huge.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Also, I mean, was this one on the 146?

[B]

Yeah, it was on a 146.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not on.

[A]

On a snow.

[C]

So that, like, for that particular one, threw me off. But then for all the other ones, I was like, to be honest, this is huge for you and huge for Polaris. Like, you're not on a purpose built.

[B]

Yeah, it was a. It was a sled 146 assault.

[C]

You just put your little touches on it and then went for it.

[B]

It was seat built that. I. I just took water pipe, like, 8 inch water pipe, melted it down, and stuffed it. Stuffed it into my seat. Yeah.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Evan's going home to make one. Yeah. That's a whole tutorial in itself, but literally. Yeah. So I had a seat grab seat in it. It had stock suspension in it and my flip levers, stock bars.

[D]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. The stock assault bar that year was amazing. So you got called in, and he just stayed right there. You're kidding. You're coming in. I'm calling you out. I'll get Micah to call you out. We're going to talk about how Micah tried to take you home. With my mustache?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you noticed. I'm sure you noticed. I shaved my mullet off quite literally, like, a day before I came here. But that was the last time. Was it even last? I don't know. When we were in Jackson, you had.

[B]

A mullet of heydays.

[C]

Yeah, right, right. I kept it four heydays, but I shaved my mustache to look just like you. You obviously saw that was great. I loved it. I. It was a look Already loved my mullet. And then I did that, and then I put on American flag shirt, and I just started floating.

[B]

See, the problem is now that you don't have the mullet, dude, you're gonna lose your wings. Like, somebody just worried about you legit just got snipped.

[C]

Dude, I was worried about that. I heard you say something, and then I'm like. And then when everyone was like, dude, you're. You're kind of killing it lately, like, And I was like, it's the mullet just kind of being funny. But maybe that wasn't a lie at all.

[B]

I. I mean, I've. I've cut my hair in the past, and. And I kind of go on this, like, one haircut a year sort of scenario, and I just let Nikki do it.

[C]

It looks like it's trimmed up a bit.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit. I don't know. I still. There. Cut it a while ago.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I love, like, the flap of the. The hair just on the back of the helmet, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, when I'm in the air, if I'm going fast, that's how I know that's my gauge.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I know when the hair is, like, you hit a big jump, you get a couple of hair whips on the back of the helmet. Like, oh, that's a nice one.

[C]

Just do a real fat trick, and you're like, dude, did you see my hair, though?

[B]

Or, like, the slow mo, like, when you see the video after, like, man, that guy's got good hair.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The front of my hair sucks, so I just got to rely on the back.

[A]

Keep the hat on, keep the helmet on, let the party flow.

[B]

Yeah, I'd say.

[C]

I think I got less gray hair than you, dude.

[B]

I earned these.

[C]

More. Sorry, More.

[B]

I earned all of these ones.

[A]

So, like, I was like, damn, dude.

[B]

Calling me old, bro. I actually earned every single one of these. Yeah. Comes with having three daughters also, maybe the lifestyle that I've lived and partying and freestyle motocross and freestyle snowmobiles.

[C]

Mixture of it all. Yeah, I didn't. I mean, we talk with saying sometimes about it, like, the days. The party days in the. In slednecks, and anything among that same genre of content and partying is wild. Beyond wild.

[B]

I heard.

[C]

I mean, you know, thank you, Nikki. Thank you.

[A]

She could see that we're all getting empty.

[B]

Pull up a seat.

[A]

Yeah. So I would, like. Nikki, would you like to come in for a little bit? Can you take over for Evan, please?

[F]

I can.

[A]

Okay. Please do. Brett was talking a lot about how much you have helped him through his career, and I feel like you guys are a bit of a power couple in the snowmobiling industry.

[C]

Full blown.

[A]

Yeah, full blown.

[B]

She's actually got her own fan club.

[F]

I do.

[A]

Okay. I was wondering if we could bring this up. You do have your own fan club.

[F]

I do. Apparently.

[C]

It's.

[F]

I just found out about it at Heydays. Brett was finishing a freestyle show, or I think that he was walking somewhere, and these guys walk up to him in this sign, and it's literally, forget Brett. We're here to see Nikki.

[B]

I was impressed. I got, like, a little turned on. Mama's still got it.

[F]

So then they come over and they're just like, oh, man. Like, we just, like, really wanted to meet you. This is like our. Our highlight of the entire trip.

[C]

Like, oh. So they were like. They weren't.

[B]

They're straight up.

[C]

Like, they weren't just schmoozing you. I mean, they were like, no.

[F]

He goes, hey, I want to show you something really cool. And he pulls out his phone and there's a fan club, and there's like, 30 to 40 dudes in this group chat.

[C]

Whoa.

[F]

It's called Nikki T. Fan Club with, like, a peach.

[B]

It's amazing.

[A]

Like Facebook.

[F]

No, it's like, just like a group chat.

[B]

Like, that was an Instagram group chat.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Amazing.

[F]

And then I'm just like, oh, my goodness. So then I, like, made a post about it because I was. And then they cut. Came back. They're like, our eyes are sorry.

[B]

Not sorry, but Nikki's just over your ruffling feathers, literally.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not surprised that their wives were pissed, but what are you going to do? They made the group chat.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Well, at the end of the day, I went and followed them on Instagram and I like, you know, follow their wives.

[B]

Your husband's so great. He came and said hi, you know, like, because I'm.

[F]

I'm a, like, girl. Like, I love women. Maybe not.

[C]

She loves women.

[A]

That's all.

[F]

But it's always like, hey, like, your wife, your girlfriend, your. You know, like, it's always.

[B]

And they're cool dudes, man. And I mean, if you're going to go through the motions of you. You're not going to go to Hades and make a sign and not be seen, you know?

[A]

Like, that's true.

[B]

Like, are they that mad? Or they kind of just downplay in the fact that, like, oh, you, like, kind of met Nikki and she's pretty.

[C]

Nice, you know, like just a picture for memory reasons.

[B]

It's not the first heydays where Nikki's gotten some attention either. I mean, there was one. There was a few years ago when we were walking around the Swaps. It said free beer for hot moms or something.

[C]

Evan, classic.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like maybe that might have been. That was amazing.

[C]

Yeah. Evan would totally hold a sign like that.

[F]

So he actually. That was his booth.

[A]

Oh, no way. I was like, it's totally something Evan would do.

[F]

Of course it Was him before he was even associated with you guys. That's where he was.

[B]

Yeah, that's how Nikki first met Evan.

[F]

Dude like that. And I, like, he messaged me. He's like, you know, that was my booth.

[B]

I was like, no, it wasn't so good.

[F]

Yeah, it was really good.

[B]

Turkey Reinhardt was cruising around with Larry and Tyser at the time.

[A]

I remember that.

[C]

That was fun.

[B]

Larry's on a comeback, you guys.

[A]

I did see that he's been blowing up on TikTok.

[B]

I think he got a manager.

[C]

My favorite signed about. Yeah. So we'll see how that goes. You know, sometimes managers are good and sometimes they're not, but I'm a good manager.

[B]

It's his brother, so I think you can just beat him up if it's not that good.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, so it still is. Yeah, well, there's a whole thing about, like, I heard his brother was pushing him too hard, and then he was like, I don't like this.

[B]

I don't want to die.

[C]

Yeah. And then, like, It's.

[A]

It's an 80s snowmobile jump. It's so far.

[C]

Yeah, it was a big part of that.

[F]

Have you seen some of his crashes, though, where he get offs and I'm just like.

[C]

Just gets big bounce.

[F]

Wow. Like, most days, I, like, get out of bed wrong, and I can't walk, let alone.

[C]

Although he doesn't. He looks way older than he is.

[B]

Yeah, he's pretty young, but, yeah, either.

[C]

Way, it was just interesting. He posted the one video, and people were like, yes. They were all about it. You know, he didn't even really accomplish much in the video, but people were really excited to have him back.

[A]

That will be cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Turkey Reinhardt was always like, is turkey.

[A]

Coming back this winter? You got plans for turkey?

[F]

I love.

[A]

Have you actually been coming around at all?

[B]

You want to hear the best turkey story of my life? The first night that Nikki ever met me, I was dressed as turkey.

[C]

Really? Oh, that's like. That's quality funny.

[B]

No, like, 100 legit.

[F]

Like, I met Brett, and we were beyond drunk, and you were. I'm pretty sure we don't even remember.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I don't. I didn't recall meeting her. I just. Something came up on my Facebook. I'm like, I recognize that girl. Follow.

[F]

And then he immediately into the DMs. Like, it wasn't even like a follow. I'm gonna. Like a couple pics. It was like a follow.

[B]

And, like, DM just like, hey, head first, dude.

[A]

Well, it seemed like it Worked out.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

He actually told me in the first conversation bubble, like, you know, when you, like, were like, Facebook messenger. Now, this was like, almost 10 years ago.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

And so it was like, first conversation bubble, and that was like the dating thing back then. He told me he was gonna marry me.

[B]

I was like, so when's the wedding? She's like, well, if you could kiss her, I'll keep you around.

[F]

That's exactly.

[A]

So, yeah.

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

10 years later.

[A]

10 years later, you're in.

[C]

You guys need to, like, spice things up in the bedroom. Can you dress up as turkey?

[B]

There's actually some cowboy boots by the door.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

The best part about that all, actually, is that Nikki didn't know who Brett Turcotte was. Really? Care to know who Brett Turcotte was? She was just at a party with her friend, and her friend had invited her to. It was actually a 509 premiere.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So full circle.

[F]

But I had. I had no idea. What? Snowmobiling.

[B]

You just. Wait, really?

[F]

Yeah. No, I.

[A]

Where were you from?

[F]

I was from Fort McMurray, so I'm an oil field girl.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

So I like, super far a lot.

[C]

Less recreational activities, per se. As far as, like, sledding.

[F]

Oh, yeah, No, I didn't do any of that. I just worked. That was my thing.

[B]

But she had toys, you know, she's like, oh, you snowmobile. I. I have a snowmobile. Like, can we go snowmobiling? So we did. And I just was terrible boyfriend at the time. Just leave her stuck in the bag. And my buddies doing flips out there.

[A]

And you're like, hey, can you come and get me?

[B]

Yeah, my friends are like, getting her on stock. And yeah, it was. Yeah, that was quite the. Quite the time of our lives.

[A]

But so does being sick on a snowmobile pick up girls? Did that work for you? No, no, that wasn't it.

[B]

I had to. I had to earn it, dude.

[F]

He had to earn it. Like, he had to, like, actually chase me for like, three or four months. And I was like, okay, maybe I'll come to BC and see you.

[B]

Because at that point, at one point, I was like, I'm going filming. She's like, filming what? You know, And I'm like, she's like, I thought you just logged.

[F]

And then, you know what he said? Google me.

[A]

Really?

[D]

I love that.

[B]

Well, 10 years later, here we are. Yeah, no kidding.

[C]

And then you did google him, right?

[F]

No, I didn't.

[B]

I actually waited for the movie to.

[C]

Come out that far. It's pretty it's pretty fun to like, I guess just a side note, like, if you Google us, there's a bunch of shit that comes up, but only shit we put out, right? Our videos, our podcasts, our Instagram. But then when you Google you, it's like, you know, it's just fun. It's fun to read. There's a whole. There's a players right up. There's a Wikipedia right up. There's like, yeah, X Games. Does it write up on you? Like all kinds of stuff.

[B]

I found one the other day that said that I was worth like 8 million or something.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Those are always.

[B]

Where did these come from?

[F]

Wow.

[C]

We'll get, yeah, the net worth. It'll say, yeah, Ryan's net worth is 60 million. And then it's.

[A]

Yeah. And then someone in college, people were like, is that real? And I'm like, guys, if I was worth. It's like 300 and some million. I was like, if I'm worth, if I was worth 320 million, you think I'd be in this shitty apartment? Like, no, no.

[F]

I would be in a Visa, on a yacht.

[A]

Yes, exact.

[F]

Or Monaco, watching Formula one.

[A]

Yeah, There we go.

[F]

Walking on my treadmill.

[A]

You've thought about this?

[F]

I've actually. Yeah.

[B]

Back to like the, the push that Nikki had, though. Nikki can chime in on this one from her side. You know, like a lot of people see me on the snowmobile, right? And, and a lot of people see Nikki sort of like on the, on the sidelines. Like there was an Instagram reel made of her the other day from heydays of just like pacing up and down the, the run in, you know, and it's like I probably had asked her like, hey, can you go find such and such goggle? Or like I lost my mouth guard and she's like these small things. But if it, if it weren't for her in my corner and for her doing the things that she does to support my career. I call it our career sometimes, like, wouldn't be like you said, like, not, not that it's like cheesy but like power couple. But it's like people see Nikki and associate me and then people see me and I'm like, where's Nikki? You know, like, definitely it happens a lot, so.

[D]

For sure.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. I just like I met him and I was like full, like I'm very like numbers driven. So I was, you know, like making really good money and I was like, hey, you should quit your job and go be a full time snowmobiler. Because you're so passionate about it and just, like, enabled him to be like, hey, you go do your things. I'll look after all the back end and whatever you want to do. And, like, even, like, after he got hurt, he was saying, I don't know if I want to, like, do, like, those dark moments. And I'm like, get out of it. No, you're not. Like, no. Like, absolutely not.

[C]

Like, you're definitely right about the highs being better, too. That's a really positive thing to say. The highs will be better 100% right.

[F]

Like, and everyone has dark days. It doesn't matter what industry you're in or what you're doing or where you're at. Everyone has those, like, I don't know how I'm going to become better or be more, you know, like, viral or, like, how are we gonna do this? And, like, the people who are in your corner at that time that are. You're just like, I'm gonna quit. I'm. I'm done. The people are like, no, you're not. Like, bad day doesn't.

[B]

When I say that I went all on. On 2018, it was like, all in, you know?

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we had, like, sleep and breathe.

[C]

While you were practicing.

[B]

From the minute that I was hurt and laying in the hospital bed until we got to Aspen, it was. That's crazy.

[F]

And it's crazy, too, because, like, a lot of people don't know the backstory to it. Like, we were, like, to the point of, like, we had $1,000 in our account. We had skipped three mortgage payments, borrowed.

[B]

Money from my dad to get there.

[F]

To get to Aspen. And I, like, I was like, Hudson was a one at that point. And I was like, one and a half, maybe. And I was like, hey, I love you. I support you, but if this doesn't go the way that it needs to, this is the end of us. Like, not just, like, your career. It's like, we lose the house. I don't know how we're getting home because we don't have enough gas money. Like, this is, like, where we're at at this point. If you don't come home with a gold medal.

[C]

Wow.

[F]

We're like, that.

[A]

Talk about pressure on. I mean, you know yourself.

[B]

I strive so hard on it, though.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I was gonna say good pressure.

[B]

The minute that I relax and just put things on cruise control is when you see me kind of just like, make a mistake or, you know, so that pressure, not that it was in my mind while I was Riding, but just knowing that, like, how committed we were and how in deep we were. Um, you know, I. I say that we were all in. Like, yeah, we did spend every dollar that we had to get there. And. And you know, people have this image that you go to win X Games and you're winning millions. It's like, man, if you don't go win X Games, from our perspective, you're from British Columbia, Canada. I had to buy my snowmobiles that year. I didn't have support for snowmobiles. I was getting free mountain sleds. But I had to buy my X Game sled, two of them, actually, because I bought a mod and I bought a stalker. So I go to X Games and I had hired a mechanic at a thousand bucks a month, and that was like, that was just barely covering his bills so that he could be away from home, you know. So I hired a mechanic because up until then I was doing all of it myself. So I would wake up in the morning, I'd get in the snowcat that we had borrowed, go and push up my landing, make it really nice. Come in, like, fill the sled up, warm the sled up, give it a once over. Give it a once over, ask Nikki to come down and watch me ride.

[F]

Yeah. Because no one was around. So I was there with an infant.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

In the vehicle watching this train.

[B]

And I would like, put this little run together. And she's like, no, your feet weren't together. You look like you're not going to win like that.

[F]

I actually was like, you look like a frog. Put your feet together.

[B]

At this time, I'm like feeling like. I was like, that was a new trick for me. I thought it felt pretty good. She go, no, you look like shit. I'm like, I hate you so much. So then I would go and do it good. She's like, there you go. She's like, throw me horns. I'm like, okay, that's a good one. You know, I think there's such a.

[A]

Misconception with, like freestyle riders and supercross riders and honestly, just I think the snowmobile world in general. I grew up, you know, obsessed with all the guys in slednecks, all the racers, all the freestyle guys. And I would have thought you guys were flying in, landing, flying in first class, riding in a bus over there, eating gourmet meals, hopping on the sled, riding, flying back home to your mansions and wherever.

[E]

Like, I.

[A]

Because you guys were larger than life, are larger than life. And it's crazy that this industry doesn't pay out and honestly, like, reward the work and how much effort you have to put in to be able to make just a living doing it, you know, like you're saying you're like, yeah, I'm. I'm doing Worlds First, I'm pushing limits and I'm still logging, you know, just to pay to be able to do it. And you're putting your body and your life and everything on the line.

[F]

Well, and I think that that's like a big thing too. Like, when I met Brett, like, he couldn't even afford to put gas in his truck. And I was like, okay, I literally am working 24 and fours, working for Enbridge, making a bunch of money, and I've now fallen in love with this random dude.

[B]

Turkey. Reinhardt.

[F]

Reinhardt. And I was like, what do you want to do?

[B]

Do?

[F]

Like, it's endless. Like, where do you want to go? Like, And I put everything that I had, my whole life, my savings, my, you know, pension, your. Everything that got invested for all those years working into it, and it's paid off, thankfully.

[C]

Yeah, well, clearly you saw the power couple. You saw two things. You saw talent and the past drive.

[F]

Yeah, no, it was the passion. Like, I've never met anybody ever that has loved something so much. Then he loves snowmobiling.

[B]

Now it's kind of like gone. Gone in the other direction of like X Games has been taken off of the table, you know, and quite a bit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And now, you know, Nikki. Nikki and I kind of made this decision together and it's like everything's gotten so content based and so like at everyone's fingertips, you know, and, you know, I started the clinics thing and, and that's, that's all been great. And, and with the, the passion that I have for snowmobiling and the support that I have in the industry, it's allowed me to be able to. To branch, you know, and. But without Nikki's help and without her knowledge. Without her knowledge. Because, like, I'm just like dumb athlete guy, you know, Like, I like snowmobiles.

[A]

Yeah, you're much more than that.

[F]

But actually not that.

[B]

Yeah, you know, but like, I just, like, even with my phone, I'm so bad at texting my friends back or like posting a reel, like every morning. Like, I don't set a reminder in my phone. It's like, it's her. Like, you post a reel yet today? And I'm like, no, I post a.

[F]

Post, do some stories.

[A]

It can be more difficult than you'd think it is.

[C]

There's actually helps so much having that.

[B]

You know, and I'm. I'm waking up and I'm like, oh, like did it. Did I make that parts order or like, what do I need for the season? And she's like, hey, you haven't posted a reel in two days. Like you're. You're following started.

[C]

Yeah, I guess we. We didn't mention that right away, but you started your YouTube channel, which is really good. Just one of those things that it's like moving into the content world, but it's something that I think especially people snowmobiling but other people want to see.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What's your day to day look like?

[B]

Yeah. And I'm trying to keep it real on there. I mean, even this weekend.

[C]

I like that personally watching it. I really enjoy how real it is. And it's like that I'm. I'm pulling up, so it's broken. So it's fixed.

[B]

Let's. Yes.

[C]

That everything. I love it.

[B]

Yeah. And I mean, even this weekend, we're making a. A vlog based on this weekend. And like, I want to show people kind of, you know, our life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As much as it is me, there's like so much more to it, you know, like, there's Nikki driving the truck down here because I was tired from hunting all week. And kind of just like I. Yeah. You know, I. We spent so much time on the road this summer and. And you know, just. Just the. The life, you know. Yeah. And kind of the. The Turcot brand, it's not me. Like, I. I think Turcot is a brand or is becoming a brand now. Like, people are starting to associate the name with multiple people and, you know, our kids and. And everybody that's kind of around us, you know, so with the YouTube channel, I'm trying to, you know, trying to keep it well rounded and keep it as real as I can. I'm trying not to manufacture things in there and.

[C]

Right. Well, because some people that don't know about what you should do, there's not this right or wrong thing to do here. But they might be like, cool, you're gonna go make a freestyle edit. But you're like, no.

[A]

Yeah. You're smart.

[C]

Including you is big. Including the kids is big. And that's what people are watching on YouTube.

[F]

Well. And really, we get a lot of our inspiration from you guys. I'm gonna stop them.

[A]

This one's dead.

[F]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

All right. Sorry, guys. We. Since we're not in our studio, we don't the cameras sometimes turn off? So we just had that. So we'll pick back up.

[C]

Yeah. Right when we started to get a little emotional, too.

[B]

Yeah, no, I think he started to fluff you guys a bit.

[F]

Yeah, Like, I'm, you know, just like. But really inspirational wise. Like, I look at what you guys are doing, and I was like, brett.

[B]

You need to start around more.

[F]

Why are you doing cool like them? Like, what are we doing here?

[C]

Like, it is fun sometimes. Inspiring. Like, I'm trying to think. We had enduro rider Spencer Wilton come over. Yeah, he's killing it. And he was watching us, and he was very inspired by us because he was like, I see all I was. I was just stuck on these riding vlogs. And then he's like, I mean, this is. This is just a random idea. I was like, maybe I should do something where I like, he was like, I'm gonna fill my tire with gummy worms. Just a random idea, Right? But I'm like, no, stuff like that. I mean, like, if you do your race stuff and do what you do and then just do fun stuff. Yeah.

[F]

I feel like Brett has a hard time having fun stuff sometimes. Like, he's got his turkey Reinhardt, but, like, he's a pretty serious.

[B]

Pretty serious fellow. Well, you guys see me and, hey, no, I get Jackson. Like, you gotta be like, well, I gotta work. You know, Like, I've created or we've created this sort of, like, professional image for myself, and it's like, I can't. If I was to go back and, like, reset it, I could, like, kind of have this other branch where it's just like, I just mess around all the time. And I can, like, try funky stuff, but I'm all also on the other side of. I'm like, trying to uphold my. Yeah, my reputation is like, the YouTube world's wild. And, I mean, our kids watch some wacky stuff on there. And she's like, why can't we do that? And I was like, do you want to do that? It's me, you know, and, you know, and so not to say there isn't stuff that's on the. On the list for this coming winter that's going to be, like, a little bit different and maybe not so professional. But, yeah, I think there is that room to have fun. And, yeah, you know, that's where Nikki comes in really strong and kind of. Kind of just like flies the flag for me is like, at events or, you know, contests or where we're out in public and doing stuff. Like, I'm so. I'm pretty focused. I'm not the most loose fella, if you want to say that while you're.

[F]

Trying to stay alive.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

There's a lot of stress.

[B]

Like, let's take Hades, for example, because it's fresh and it's in my mind. Like I have like a six drink cap. Like on Saturday night before I got to go do a COD flip on Sunday, I'll have five or six drinks and like hang out and be, be.

[A]

Hung over and not be too stiff.

[B]

You know, but not to like throw anybody under the table. But Nikki will wake up and be like, ah, today feels like good day. Like, can we have a Bud Light now?

[F]

Well, you guys, we were in Jackson.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You guys did three nights in Jackson.

[A]

We did three nights in Jackson.

[B]

You guys got the NT experience.

[C]

We did. Keep in mind, the whole time we were like, we had you in, in our thoughts and prayers, you know, in our. Yeah.

[F]

I put him to bed and I was like, okay, I know you got a big date. I know I support you, but I am not going down this road.

[A]

Thanks for working this weekend, honey. I'm going to go party.

[B]

Unfortunately, I am not going to bed.

[A]

At 8:30, but I see why you are. So have fun. So I wouldn't want to keep you from it.

[C]

That part about it, I'm glad you're able to do that really without. I mean, there's such a thing. Everyone gets fomo. But like, you're really able to do that? Well, yeah, yeah, because I get fomo. I'm like, I don't think I can just go to bed tonight just because I got an early morning, morning tomorrow.

[A]

Well, you're also not doing KOD flips, right?

[C]

And so that does help. But I mean, anything you got to do, I mean, let's just say you got a, like a big interview or. I don't know, you still seem to have that discipline.

[A]

For sure.

[C]

That'd be better.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

He has discipline. I do not.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's why the power couple works.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nikki's like, Nikki's so good with people. And you know, that's what. That's been like a big influential part of my career is that like, with that association is like people understand the job that I do, but they also understand that like, Nikki's kind of unofficially my manager, you know, I'd say, yeah, I'd say so. And she'll like, she makes the best deals after midnight. It's like, that's just how that's just how some industry works.

[F]

Like, anything. Like, we'll be like, I met, you know, one of the three owners of Monster Energy, drinking red wine. Had no idea who she was until the next morning. I was like, oh, you're standing in front of everybody.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We're all at the round table for breakfast, and the girl that Nikki was just previously partying with is standing in front and like, saying, like, you know, marketing and.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's her thank yous. And Nikki's like, that person was pretty important.

[A]

Oh, we talked three bottles of wine together last night.

[F]

No, and that's just. I. That's who I am. I make friends with everybody. It doesn't matter who you are.

[B]

We've been to some, like, crazy parties. Like, we've seen Machine Gun Kelly live. We've been at the top of Aspen. We've, you know, we've seen underground.

[F]

You haven't been underground in Aspen, Colorado. You have underground. You have underground and underground in Aspen.

[B]

It is gnarly.

[F]

I may or may not. Yeah. I may or may not have spent multiples of thousands of dollars on bottle service. Underground.

[A]

Damn. I think we need to go there.

[F]

Oh, yeah, It's a good time.

[C]

But we. I have always had that outlook, too. Like, a lot of our connections we make through.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I guess Partying. Hanging. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Just hang in. Well, because that's when people are the realest. Right? Like, and that's.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

I remember meeting you guys seven years ago and being like, who the are you? Like, just being an.

[B]

Well, if we.

[C]

If we aren't punks now. We were definitely.

[A]

We were definitely punks then. It was good someone needed to call.

[F]

I was laughing so hard, and now I look back at. And I was like, oh, foot in mouth.

[C]

And you guys managed. So among all of that, Right. Of you trying to stay somewhat focused or more focused when you have to do big things and you covering everything else in the personal relations. You got three kids, so it's like. That's four kids.

[A]

Four kids.

[B]

Four.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Four.

[C]

A lot to keep up with.

[F]

13, 11, and 6.

[C]

Yeah. All spread out, like. But it's good.

[F]

It's great. We actually just were trying to have another one, and it just hasn't yet to make it number five. But it just hasn't worked. And so we're just back on the party train.

[A]

I saw that you guys have a. A track in your backyard. Is that right for the kids and for you?

[B]

Well, I mean, yeah, for sure. Hudson is. Is our youngest one. She's six and she's got an electric gas. Gas 50. So, you know, we. In the spring, once the snowmobiling kind of winds down, we do kind of shift our focus into moto. And she expressed some interest in that. And. And just the passion that I have for motorsports and for anything that is gnarly is I'm like, okay, you want to do it? I'm gonna just drop everything that I'm doing right now and give you that opportunity.

[F]

Our children, you know, legitimately have $200,000 worth of mountain bikes. Bikes and snowmobiles.

[A]

So it should be. It's like a dream.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just stuff, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Things in the garage. Yeah. But I. But I'm in that place right now.

[D]

Where.

[A]

Is it true the neighbors maybe don't like.

[B]

Well, they don't like the gas bikes, man. But my lawnmower is louder than my one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So, like, when I'm planking rocks with the lawnmower is way.

[F]

I'll tell you, it really happened was we had an absolute rager.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

And we were in the pool with 40 people till 3am.

[C]

I'm glad we.

[A]

Made in Canada, because we got to come to these parties.

[B]

There was people jumping off of our roof.

[C]

You guys renovated the backyard into just the most mint hangout spot.

[B]

Well, it's like the Turcot resort back there.

[F]

So I, I. I wear many hats, so I'm an equipment operator, interior designer, manager, business accountant, bookkeeping, media. I literally just wear all the hats. And so. So the house. And I was like this foolish. Excuse my language, But I was like.

[A]

No, you can swear here. We swear.

[B]

I want the Internet, babe.

[F]

It's the Internet. I want it like this. And so we just. Wow. Red helped.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I put some time in, actually, the beginning of the spring, we walked the mini excavator over to the pool that had about 2ft of ice built up into it. And I just started punching the ice with the excavator bucket because she was so eager to get the ice out of the pool, to get the pool fired up so that we could start building on the yard.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Also, fast forward things till July. We got a motocross track in the backyard. The pool's firing.

[C]

Yeah. A lot happened.

[B]

People jumping off of our roof into the pool.

[F]

We had a housewaring party, and it was Mexican themed. And you got there, and I had bought, like, 50 milliliter Patron bottles.

[B]

Yeah, that was the rite of passage.

[F]

So that was the rite of passage. You either did a shot of fireball with a, like, fake mustache On. So you had. I, like, super glued, like, fake mustaches to people's faces. Super glued or, like, taped or whatever.

[B]

Like, nice call on the bluff so.

[F]

That you had to put on a mustache and drink the fireball. Or you did the patron shot and then put a Mexican hat on, and you had to wear that Mexican hat all night. So we had people like, our pool was actually dyed a different color because the Mexican.

[A]

Because all that sombreros, like, got into it.

[F]

Yeah, it was great. But that was the reason why. Bylaw.

[B]

Yeah, to go back to the bylaw thing. So we're actually away at a friend's place. We're surfing on the boat, and Nikki's, like, gets this doorbell ringer notification. We can see there's, like, a weird stripe on a truck, and there's a canopy and a light on top. And she's like, what the heck? Like, did the dogs get out? Is there a bear in the yard? And nobody's home? And so then we're, like, trying to talk through the doorbell to this. This lady. And we could see that she's in uniform. Like, oh, well, we get home. We get home and we get this notice, right? There's. So there's multiple options on the. On the list. It's like, you know, noise, noise complaints, such and such, like, garbage left out. And it was like, other. And just said dirt bike noise. You know, dirt bike noise. And so then for like, a week, we are calling the bylaw. Calling, calling, calling, nothing. Finally, someone answers, and she shows up. I was at work, and so wait.

[A]

Who dropped off the note? Was it the police?

[F]

Yeah, it was like, yeah, just bylaw.

[C]

I don't know what bylaw is.

[B]

It's like a one. It's like a security. Like a mall security.

[F]

They deal with, like.

[B]

Oh, they deal with small issues, like.

[F]

If you have a dog and it's in your neighbor's yard.

[A]

So she didn't call 911 because 911 told her to off. Okay. And then they came over and left a notice.

[F]

Like, left a notice on our door. And so then the girl shows up, and I'm home, Brett's away. And she goes, yeah, like, we got a call for dirt bike noise. I said, well, yeah, we got a dirt bike tract. She's like, that's.

[B]

She was.

[F]

Officer was like, man, this is sick. Like, your kids ride here. Like, show me videos. So me and her bro down for, like, half hour. I, like, bring out the electric bike, do a fucking lap. And she's like, huh, this is cool. Yeah, Your neighbors can fuck right off.

[A]

I'm sure your neighbor was just upset they didn't get invited to the party.

[F]

But we invited.

[B]

There was an open invite on Facebook.

[F]

On Facebook for our, like, commute. Like, you know how, like, neighborhoods watch, like, the neighborhood watch. And I post. I said, hey, we're not 13 ragers. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I literally.

[C]

But we are doing this.

[F]

Yeah. I. I. And I put it on Facebook to say, hey, it's gonna be loud. It's gonna be noisy. We're having a pool party. There's tequila and lots of tequila involved. Like, I still have half of a 2,6 of Patron silver in the freezer of our trailer just waiting.

[B]

But it was, like, a full pit bike national.

[A]

We.

[B]

There was two pit bikes, and the rest was surrons, but there was, like, a dozen surrons there, and it was.

[F]

Like, okay, so start about your Siron races. So we started the Suron races.

[C]

I don't know. I was gonna kind of ask you about that, because we were just at the dealership checking out the. All the surrons, and I was like, we need.

[B]

How do you fly them home?

[C]

I don't know, but we need them.

[F]

Okay. So we started the first ever Siron.

[B]

Race, sort of like, in Western Canada.

[F]

In Western Canada at our house.

[B]

So I built this track for Hudson in the backyard. Then all. Then all of a sudden, like, my buddy's like, huh, can we bring the surrons over there? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So then we, like, start this little group chat thing going, and. And all of a sudden, now there's a dozen Siron dudes that want to come to our place on a Thursday night.

[A]

And I'm ride.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like. I text Nikki. I'm like, hey, babe, you want to go to Costco and grab one of those PA System speakers? We're, like, stringing extension cords into the backyard and firing up the Traeger and doing burgers and dogs and, like, we created this whole, like, scene. And so then each week, pretty much all summer long, we had this, like, siron, like, summer night series in our backyard. And, like, people just.

[A]

Dude, you're building, like, the field of dreams in your backyard.

[F]

But now they're doing it.

[B]

Now there's, like, a full national series.

[F]

There's a national series. They just did one in Ontario. Like, it's literally, like, nationwide now.

[C]

Have you been to any that weren't. Yeah, yeah, right?

[B]

I went to one, and actually.

[F]

Well, the first one.

[B]

Yeah, the. The first one was in June or July in Canada. Kamloops. And. Yeah, it was huge. There was like 20 something entries or something. It was like Saturday night after a amateur national. There was. Yeah, there was a Mom Moto.

[F]

I don't want to talk about that.

[B]

There was like a full sir on like.

[F]

Like, full Momoto to the point of I may or may not have grabbed the wrong break, drank in too much beverages before said Moto, and came into a corner and forgot which was the.

[A]

Front in which is it reversed from, like, a bicycle or those.

[C]

Throws me off now the same as Moto.

[F]

Yeah. So I just, like, full, like, dirt slammed.

[B]

Two laps in a row, actually. And then comes in and she, like.

[A]

Two laps in a row. Okay.

[C]

Comes in, like, comes in now.

[B]

Come check the brakes while you're under the bus. Comes in, like, slams the bike on the ground. She's like, the front end's loose. And I was like, pardon. I'm like, I just actually won on that bike. But it felt great. Like, I. The suspension was dialed, like. It feels good. It was not just, like, natural. Typical racer, you know?

[F]

Anyway, so then the video comes out. Like, there's actually, like, video footage of it. And I was like, I had the.

[B]

Insta360, so I could see exactly Cleveland.

[F]

See me grabbing front brake, and I was like, didn't happen.

[B]

It's a mirrored image.

[C]

That's pretty cool that they. They. So they had. They have one for kids, too.

[B]

Yeah, there was a. There was a kids race and, like, Ezra. Ezra raced it and. Yeah, the surround thing.

[D]

School.

[B]

The electric thing is starting to make. Starting to make waves.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

And make waves and make less neighbors mad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And I got a. I got a Stark on order. I'm waiting and. Oh, really? I won't see it till the end of next summer.

[C]

Very awesome.

[A]

What's a Stark?

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Okay, so we had an Alta.

[C]

Oh, you did?

[B]

Okay. Yeah, we had an Alta. Yeah.

[F]

Yeah, we bought one for me, and I, like, customized the seat and did all the graphics, and then.

[A]

Those things are wicked.

[C]

Kind of scary, obviously. Like, I haven't spent a lot of time on one, but they're kind of scary.

[B]

Hi, David.

[C]

David.

[B]

There'S a latte there for you.

[F]

There's a lot an athlete.

[B]

Yeah, I agree, though, with you. On the scary side is, like, because it's electric, you don't respect the sound and power that it has.

[C]

Right. I agree.

[B]

For sure.

[C]

I just remember, I mean, one time, CJ got on an Alta, first time ever, and he was like, yeah, this is cool. Like, unlimited torque.

[A]

It's kind of crazy.

[C]

Yeah. Next thing you know, he like hit lubed out. There's like. There was like an airplane strip so they just dumped off. So it's like just think of hitting a big ditch. And I'm not. He could have jumped over two buses and he just went. And he's like flying in the air.

[B]

And he goes, fuck those electric bikes.

[F]

Yeah. Well, I like it, like, just because I really hate blowing a clutch or.

[B]

Like missing a shift. Like, the motor doesn't get hot.

[F]

Yeah. And so I like, put Hudson on the front. I mean, who her? Go like, do a motor photo and it'll be like, sick. I don't have to worry about, like her leg getting burnt on the exhaust.

[C]

Or, you know, like, there's a lot of pluses.

[F]

There's a lot of pluses. And also, I don't ride a dirt bike that well, so it makes me feel really cool, you know, like. Yeah, that's what I liked about it for sure.

[C]

Well, that was badass. Thank you for coming on.

[A]

Thank you for having me.

[F]

Thank you so much.

[B]

It wouldn't have been a podcast. I was talking on the way down. She's like, man, like last night I had this dream, like, you talked about me in your podcast. Like, I don't know what you said, but you talked about me. I'm like, you know you're going to be on it, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's like, no, no, no. I was like, well, no, babe, like, that's us. Like that.

[C]

Yeah. Originally was hoping for that.

[B]

So working.

[F]

We love you guys.

[C]

Like, we love you too.

[B]

Like, I'm excited for tonight, dude. I don't have any events tomorrow.

[A]

Say you're on vacation.

[F]

This is the first time, I think that you guys have actually, like, been able to.

[B]

To like may or may not keep my shirt on.

[C]

Very excited.

[F]

Like, excited.

[C]

We're going to get Jay and Blaine on here after.

[F]

Guys excited to see the J. I love Jay Menaberry.

[C]

Well, that makes two of us.

[F]

He is like, I remember gay. Best memory of jay. Probably about nine years ago, we were at a 509 heli shoot in Sicamous and we were in the back of somebody's RV that they were pulling with a truck and we were having a part a dance party in the RV as they were driving it down.

[B]

So good.

[A]

Amazing.

[F]

And that's how we like went from location to location.

[A]

And it was on an RV for tonight.

[B]

Yeah, we're going from the windows to the wall.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Your YouTube channel. Brett Turcot.

[B]

Yeah, Brett Turcott. Instagram. Turcot. 16. And make sure you guys go and follow Nikki as well. She kind of supports the whole thing. And, yeah, send me a DM if you want to find out more info.

[C]

Got it.

[A]

Great.

[C]

Thank you. Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[D]

Perfect.

[C]

All right, we had a little bit of a roster swap here. We got Jay and Blaine.

[A]

Boy, we got to cut in the clip of what we just did between the two. We broke out the Bongzilla. Yep.

[C]

And we.

[D]

We.

[C]

Not to get it twisted as to what you might think it would be, but we prepped up. That's all it was, was just a little podcast prep.

[D]

Just a little podcast fluid.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

So we have Oil, Jay Menaberry and Blaine Matthews. What are your numbers again?

[D]

My phone number?

[B]

No.

[D]

411.

[C]

411.

[E]

230.

[C]

I just feel like that's important to know. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

In the racing, that's our race race numbers and our Instagram handles.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why Buddy go to the dentist. What time is the Buddy's appointment at the dentist?

[C]

What time was Buddy's appointment at the dentist?

[E]

2:30.

[D]

2:30.

[C]

I was really hoping it'd be a good one.

[A]

That's a dad. Dad.

[C]

So you guys recently just launched the Jay and Blaine show. Where is it? Blaine and Jay J and J. Where you're in the process of launching.

[D]

Yeah, it's kind of in the.

[E]

Well, if you look at it, the. The Blaine and J. If you abbreviate. It's the BJ show.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. I don't know why no one told me this because.

[E]

So we kept it kind of PG either.

[C]

By going with Jay and Blaine.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Because if you Google BJ show, what do you think you're gonna get, Right?

[D]

Yeah, we can't.

[A]

And you don't want to get, like, your faces in with all the other ones.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Bad vibe.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Get out.

[C]

That's smart. So you guys grew.

[B]

Do you.

[C]

When did you meet?

[D]

Racing.

[C]

Racing.

[E]

We were racing each other in semi pro.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And we were like, in hill climbs.

[D]

This guy, he's beating me, and he's like, this guy's beating me.

[E]

And the cool thing then was like, Jay was riding a Polaris. When I started racing against him, I was a few years older than him, but, like, my first year racing semi pro, I was having a pretty good season. And then this guy came along and was like, man, who is this guy?

[C]

He's like, gave you a run for your money. Yeah.

[E]

Like, it was now it was a battle, and we duked it out and. And then shortly, right after, the year after, you went back to Ski do.

[D]

Yeah, it was a short stint, very short.

[E]

But like that created the competitiveness was like, oh, this off brand, guys duking it out with me so I have to try to beat him. And he was thinking the same. And then the next year we're teammates essentially. And that's where we created a bond.

[C]

The true bond. Yeah.

[D]

And then the friendship beyond the racing and the sleds and all that.

[C]

Right. Because like, I mean, how far away do you live from each other?

[D]

About hour and a half if you're on the highway. But I mean, we're just like two peas in a pod.

[C]

We're quite literally. Well, that's why I thought you were a one off character. And then you brought Blaine along one time and I was like, I didn't think you could bring anyone crazier than you with.

[D]

No, he is crazier than me. Like, if you like me, you're gonna like him.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Even more.

[E]

We get into some good stuff. Yeah, he lives a good life. I live a pretty crazy life.

[C]

I mean. Yeah, he lives a good. He drives a Ford Ranger. You still have that? Oh, yeah, of course.

[D]

Dude, it's mint.

[E]

I seen Jay somewhere this summer. Oh, is it a golf tournament? Pineda, like this cool ass golf tournament they do and they assume like I, I was busy working, couldn't be there, but I whip in that afternoon, just go have some beers with everybody at the golf tournament. I see this Ford Ranger and I'm like, that is Jay's Ford Ranger. Like I. I was thinking he was gonna drive his nice truck. No, the Ranger goes everywhere.

[D]

It takes me everywhere.

[C]

Awesome.

[D]

And you know what? I went back home through the dirt roads on that thing. You couldn't do that on the F350. I mean you could, but it. But you'd rather do it.

[A]

The Ranger.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Legendary status 24.

[B]

7.

[D]

You guys have some Rangers still?

[C]

We. Just one.

[D]

Just one. Only one survived.

[C]

Yeah. We're in the process of turning it into a dualie right now.

[D]

Like the grind hard guys.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Except for they did six.

[C]

They have a six, but that one's.

[D]

Have you seen that in person yet?

[C]

No.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[E]

It's pretty gnarly.

[D]

A work of art.

[C]

And yeah.

[A]

As all Rangers are.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Dually. Those Pretty true.

[A]

It's going to be nice. It's good because we have the gooseneck attachment in the box.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

So it will be good to have a little bit more road coverage.

[B]

Looks professional.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. We're like, we're going to start doing hotshot trucking.

[C]

Did we add any springs? No, we didn't add anything to the suspension.

[E]

We get your Department of Transportation number?

[A]

Yeah, they'll be calling.

[D]

They're going to be looking not for hire.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So what do you guys have planned for once the snow starts to fly? I guess together or apart, but together.

[E]

Well, virtually everything now is kind of together. Like, we're one we and really have been for a couple years now. You know, we've. When the friendship started, like, it started the race. And we've got pictures, you know, 2014, 24, 15, that we're hanging out the hill, we're scoping out lines, you know, the photographer companies took. And we look back now and like, we didn't realize what we had then. And then this thing, the friendship, really hit. We're riding together every day. We're. We're planning trips together. We're doing stuff in the off season. And that's what it really means. Like, it's not the every day on the snow. You know, it's like the friends, all of us together, camaraderie, and that's what really sparked it. And then last season, things really like this idea, like, because it's kind of been a show, you know, like when we're together, it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like there's going to be something to. It is laugh at or like we're. I don't know, we're not going to float our boats, but it's a good time.

[C]

Like. Yeah. And this, I mean, goes way back to when we first started to. To meeting everyone, but meeting everyone on the 509 team, all the athletes, and we go. All of us said the same thing. We're like, damn, they're all so fun. I would have never known. Yeah. Because I wouldn't have, you know, watching the films. Would have never known what you did in your personal life, what your humor was like, nothing.

[A]

I think that's really cool. I'm glad that 509 is starting to do that with. Now that they're doing the podcast and the YouTube series, like, every rider is getting a lot more of a spotlight and where you get to see them develop, because I remember my first year coming out here for the premiere. I was terrified because I'm like, what am I going to talk to these riders about? I can't talk to them about my snowmobiling stories. They're going to be like, oh, sick, buddy. You did a little wheelie. And turned out, you know, like. And then we ended up having one of the best times in Spokane.

[C]

There's Something to be said about, like, don't talk about your snowbuilding stories with professional snowmobiles or even. I mean, we get that some dudes.

[B]

Like, yo, you guys love sleds.

[C]

I love sleds, too. Should we talk about them for the next half hour in the bar? No, man. Necessarily.

[E]

It always creates that common issue. All of a sudden, now you're talking about the most random thing in the world.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And now you become friends over. And that's like, what him and I, I think, have really brought to a lot of people. Like, you know, the professional athlete, the professional this and that. What the title. Like, we love that. We enjoy that. We have passion for it. You know, we like to push our limits, whether it be racing in the back country. You know, obviously, a guy like Brett really pushes industries backcountry. I mean, he's kind of like the top tier. Right. And we look up to a lot of that stuff. But this one thing that we really believe in, too, is, like, the relativeness of that. Everybody is still human. You know, like, we do this because we have a passion, because of not one little thing, not one jump we hit, not one line we pulled because of the people that are involved in industry. And that's what. Yeah. Set us apart a little bit in this idea.

[D]

So to your. To your point, that's kind of what we want to show is that we do the athlete stuff. Just like Brett, he's got a serious side. He's business. He's, you know, he's what was a racer. He's in competition. So are we. We're competitive. We're, you know, we're racing for the top spot in a professional series, but we're also a couple of guys that like to drink beer. And we. I feel like we balance it out. We try to balance it very well, and I think a lot of people can appreciate that. And that's what we want to show because of you guys. Like, you guys show that. That it's not all serious. Like, you don't have to be like this corporate, and you can dummy.

[C]

And you can get somewhere with that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of a weight off my shoulders, too, because I look back on my career, like you said, going to those premieres, and I thought I had to be like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This thing that I was so uncomfortable with. And now I'm like, it. I'm gonna be myself because.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Or like, early on, I mean, and we would still get this, like, right when we first met you, it's like, what Was he like, in person?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I would kind of be. I mean, all good things, but I was just like a normal. No, I was like a normal dude, but a lot different than you think. A lot funnier and cooler and more fun and more out there than you'd think.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which you just wouldn't guess.

[D]

Right.

[A]

So a normal dude just way better at snowmobiling than us.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Which is the one thing that I can say that.

[C]

That I have.

[D]

Like, I'm a kind of a one trick pony. I'm not good at anything else. So if I can be a good snowmobiler and then also be like a good friend or a good human, I want to show that if we're in the business to like, entertain, do what we do and entertain, then might as well, like, be real with it. Exactly it. And you guys have really.

[C]

I'm glad to hear that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I've never. It's funny, I've never really been like a YouTube watcher or like, really related to anybody, but I. When I first met you guys, honestly, I didn't really know who you were. I knew you had a YouTube channel and you did what you did. But then I started actually watching your stuff and like, I look forward to every episode because.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yeah, honestly. Honestly, like, you guys, it's like, what.

[C]

Are we gonna do next? Yeah, we definitely promise.

[D]

Funny, you guys, your banter between all of you and. And the shenanigans and like, it's like, I want to be there because it would be so fun, you guys, like.

[E]

Through the curveball industry of whatever it may be, you know, like the pat. The people's passion, the curveball come from, like, you guys, because if you look at a professional athlete standpoint, okay. They're staying, you know, professional. And like you said, you guys meet someone back in the day. Oh, gosh, how do I handle this guy? How do I talk to him when they are real people.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, there's no difference between any of us. We like to have fun. We have a passion for things we enjoy. But like, you guys really opened up that doors for like, say big corporates. This and that. To understand the importance of people are human and they like to have a good time. They like their surroundings. They're not just like a robot.

[A]

And not only that, but that people like to see you guys be human.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, or. And us, they like to see people be human. And I like, that's why I love.

[C]

That Brett is And everything.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, we get to elaborate and. And Be ourselves and just chat. Which is really fun and yeah, it's been fun seeing that out of you guys. Also fun to see. I mean like we roll up and you're like, yeah, I just got done with, you know, handful of rodeos. Like you were doing that. You know, I just got done. I was out bear hunting, I was out moose, elk hunting, all that stuff.

[E]

Yeah. Like we have, you know, the lifestyles.

[C]

You guys are definitely mountain men.

[E]

Oh for sure. I love the mountains.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, him more so. Him and I. Yeah.

[C]

But.

[D]

But.

[C]

Well, it was cool to hear that you're al. Hunting too.

[D]

Yeah. That's a whole nother aspect of like our personal lives. He's. He's fluent in hunting and wrangling. Wrangling anything.

[C]

I survive.

[E]

I live like a pretty wild west lifestyle and.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Where I like, you know, pine to Wyoming. It's pretty, it's not remote, but it's still old school mentality there, you know.

[D]

Wild west for sure.

[E]

Yeah. I mean everybody has rules. We have rules, but same time, like it's pretty laxed.

[A]

What do you guys think those are.

[C]

Those are the like the unwritten rules that everyone knows. Yeah.

[A]

What do you guys think about so many people moving west and the mountains being taken over by people that maybe didn't grow up there? Honestly, it's double edged sword.

[D]

It is, it is like, it's like you can't blame them.

[A]

Yeah. It's amazing. I want to be there.

[D]

Right. But we're there because we love it and we, we know why people are coming. But at the same time it's like, man, another, another one, another one.

[E]

But at the same time, like I sit back and look at this. I mean I've spent my last 10, 15 years, you know, deep in the backcountry, whether it be snowmobiling or in the summer. Because like between pack trips and hunting trips, I mean that's like what I did for a living was be in the backcountry, mostly hunting and.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

And summer pack trips. But they still. People are still unwilling. Like the people that are moving out and they're settling in because golf and getting away from whatever they're getting away from or they just want something new. They still don't get what's out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like there's still remoteness within the states here, especially in Wyoming.

[C]

Right. Yeah.

[E]

And it's. I'm like, that's okay because they'll never find it. You know, it's a pretty daring thing really. Like to go back in somewhere deep and it's right there. But they don't know that they're there.

[D]

But they're not really there. So it's like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I was gonna say, especially. I don't know what I mean when I really say people like that because they're moving from all over. But, like, you're right. They're not cluttering up the mountain by any means.

[D]

No, exactly. And they're. They're there and they. They live there. They build a house, buy a house, whatever. And that's good because you. That's a whole nother conversation.

[A]

Shop in the stores. They.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

At the lunch. At the place.

[D]

At the place and at the place and stuff. They might venture in.

[A]

Yeah. We don't have.

[D]

But we still have our own sanctuary, you know, so it's okay. Like I said, I can't blame them because I would do the same thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So it's all good.

[C]

So is your. So this coming winter, like, would. Will your next 509 episode. Was it already you two last year?

[E]

Yeah, the last two years now, kind of.

[C]

Well, I like to think it would be, but yeah, that's.

[E]

You know, last year we. We filmed our episode together. And I mean, it was just our natural selves. It was like, kind of effortless.

[D]

Yeah. It's like a day of writing.

[E]

And that's what made it fun and unique is like, even, like you look at David McKinney side. Like some of these guys, like, they go out there and they work. They're grinding their butts off, you know, and we go with them. And if they just have their camera on, they're gonna get something cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Whether it be something nar bar or just something absolutely stupid. The apple juice, for instance, if you guys remember that.

[A]

I don't remember the apple juice. It's.

[D]

It's just.

[E]

I'll bring it up because it's pretty great. Like, Dave McKinney's walk around is our first day before we're filming. And, you know, we did the backcountry thing, but we also have the hill climb stuff, so we have a lot of snowmobiles between, mostly at Jay's house. Like, all my sleds end up there. We're doing everything together. So it looks like a ski doo dealership.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And we're trying to gas sleds up because we forgot to go gas em up. But luckily between like the 15 sleds around there, we just start siphoning fuel from all the sleds to put in our sleds. That Day, we're ride. It's like 9 o' clock in the morning. It's frosty. And Jay's rolling around with a Modela as David's filming for our episode. And the best part is, right, he cuts it to apple juice.

[C]

Apple juice.

[D]

Cheers.

[E]

And still frosty. Just like, that's the stuff that people relate to.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[E]

And that's us. We're not a fake thing, and that's what we want to be.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, maybe it bites us in the ass at the end of the race day because we're not like Keith Curtis, where we're just.

[A]

That man's a machine.

[D]

He's a machine, and you got to do it.

[A]

Absolutely.

[D]

But we, him and I talk all the time about. And we're real about it. We're just like, man, we could do that, but we'd miss out so much. This, like, like.

[C]

And I think for life is too.

[D]

Short to, like, just be.

[C]

Because it's not like you're going out and you're. You're sucking ass. Like, yeah, good. Because then you'd be like, we got to reevaluate. But right.

[D]

If we can balance, like, winning and being competitive, but also having fun, enjoying, that's what I would like to die with instead of just, oh, yeah, I won everything, but I don't have any friends. And there's not saying Keith doesn't, but, like, his life is different than ours.

[E]

It's super professional, and he's super disciplined. Probably the most disciplined guys. I mean, the dude's gnarly, and I respect that so much.

[B]

I'm.

[E]

I'm good friends, Keith. So is Jay. You know, we have. We outside of the racing. We ride with those guys, we hang out with them. But, you know, and like, we. We're still learning. We're in a curve of like, you know, how far can we take it as far as enjoying our passion, you know, within the limits of. All right. We, you know, we are essentially a contracted writers in the racing side of these things to be as successful as possible. And if we're out there doing silly stuff, well, that doesn't look good for us. You know, we're not trying to take it down that avenue. You know, we're. We want to keep it professional and do the best we can. So it's a learning curve continuously of like, all right, well, we need to tone it back and we need to spend more focus on, you know, being mentally and physically prepared, you know, and so I think we do a pretty good job with that. You Know, guys may think we're just reckless and out of control. We're really not. You know, we do put a lot of effort and training and time. I mean, actually insane amounts.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, but we also experience our passion.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Blow off some steam.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. I think maybe we can relate to that in a way where people think every week we just like, just get real drunk and go, what should we do? And there's so much more thought and planning and strategy that goes into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Beyond that.

[C]

Yeah, it is. It's interesting to think that we're almost slightly opposite of that. So it's like if you guys watch majority of the videos that you guys are a part of, you're gonna be like, wow. Very stand up, focused, whatever. You know, just no shenanigans.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Up until now. And then they look at us and they're like.

[A]

Yeah, we highlight.

[C]

Yeah. They're like, damn. They. How do they get any work done? You know? And so that's what we're trying to.

[E]

Do is bring both of those worlds and discover. Roll with both of them.

[A]

Exactly. From your perspective, I think if there was. If we weren't already Midwest and that's kind of our thing. But the mountains is a great place to capture like the lifestyle of being a guy who's interested in power sports. Like, there's not a better place in the world for dirt bikes in the summer, snowmobiles in the winter. Hunting, fishing, scenery, sign. Yeah. Side by sides. It's everything. So it's really cool and I'm excited to see what you guys do.

[F]

Dude.

[C]

I mean, I. I don't know why. I'll just never forget it. But I mean, we've talked about getting a place in two places. That's it. Florida and he.

[D]

Somewhere in the West. Yeah, I remember that.

[C]

And then. Yeah, we talked about it. And then you were like, well, like, I don't have per se, the capital to just either a build a building or buy land and build a building, whatever. And then you're like, well, would you guys ever. And it was just a random question. And I was like, like, to be honest.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I was like, what if we. I mean, among like as many people that could owned a shop in the Mecca of, you know, compound. Then my mind started just going crazy because that'd be unreal.

[D]

It would be.

[C]

And we. And we. It would just. Yeah. I mean, we'd have all our sleds there, we'd have all the best tools. And that's all you'd really. And then. And then A couch and then snowmobile couch.

[E]

You can do whatever.

[A]

And a good fridge and then a good.

[E]

I'd have a goodie fridge.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And a grill.

[C]

I couldn't be amazing. That's it.

[B]

That's what's.

[C]

That was the fun thought about that for me. I was like, wow, that's literally all we would need for it to have a good time for 20 years and then some.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

You know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Until the next chapter.

[E]

That's the.

[D]

Because I feel like we're all living not day by day, but we're. We're not like stuck to our 20 year plan or 15.

[E]

Right.

[D]

Whatever. Like things are very.

[C]

By.

[D]

What's the word?

[B]

Viable.

[D]

No, not viable. Volatile.

[E]

Volatile.

[C]

So I knew that was the word. I don't really know what it means.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Do you agree?

[D]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, definitely.

[D]

Thing. You got to kind of roll with.

[C]

The punch to be a little softer. It's like, I know we're all going to be lifelong friends, but I don't know what it looks like.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Well, it's just like I was. I believe that you guys are pioneering a new side of this industry and taking it from being the professional athlete side and then showcasing the personal side of the professional athlete. And I think that will draw a lot more people to sport. It'll make it seem. But for you guys to almost kind of write the rule book on it is a big undertaking, you know, to transfer in and do things like that.

[C]

We always look. Well, we always. I look forward to exactly that happening because the bigger snowmobile snowmobiling gets on like a mainstream scale, the more we get to do it.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

And we. We've cut down a little bit as far as like, I mean, Ken doesn't ride sleds as hard. CJ doesn't ride at all. So it's like what ride in the mountains? That is. And it's like Ryan. It's Ryan and I's favorite thing to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like if I could do it.

[D]

Every weekend, I would believe that all.

[C]

We can do to do it. Which in. In the long grand scheme of things is the bigger it gets, the more people will watch it and the more reason we'll have to go do it.

[D]

More reason you have to do it soon.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

For sure.

[D]

Which sounds like.

[C]

Kind of sounds well also.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

People like just go. Just go.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's also part of our.

[D]

You have to do a job.

[A]

Exactly. And. And part of our job is satisfying a. Of people. People that have never even seen the mountains. Stuff like that. Maybe don't love snowmobiling, so. And snowmobiling is a very niche market, but the people that are in it.

[D]

Are all about it.

[A]

Yeah. There's no more passionate group of people.

[D]

You cannot tear them from that.

[E]

And this is the, like, this whole kickoff to winter thing. You know, say we have the group of athletes. The Seaboys are here. You know, the way you guys put that earlier was awesome, but true. The athletes, the. The group of 509 people here. The community. 509 community. You know, it's this big gathering, Kickoff to winter. So the outside world kind of looks this, like. Oh, that just the athletes are there and go meet them. But the way this deal set up is here, it's kind of a meet and greet. Hang out, interact. Everyone just being themselves.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

But what people don't realize is, like, we're all here for the weekend, having a good time, and we're going out and being our. Ourselves.

[D]

We're essentially here for the same reason that.

[A]

Exactly, Exactly.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we love snowmobiling.

[D]

Not because we're obligated. Not because we're getting paid. We're not getting paid.

[A]

Maybe you guys, like, you guys are getting paid.

[C]

No, it was. It was like an open. Like, you guys can come if you want. And then we're like, yeah, we'll be China.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the cool thing.

[C]

Like.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

And I think over the next few years, you know, our goal is to, you know, to get pushed, people. Or not really push, but, like, open the eyes that realize, like, all of us are humans and we love this sport and we share the same passion. No matter how good you are. That's the thing.

[B]

Like, you.

[D]

When we first rode together, you guys were not, you know, like.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Not good.

[C]

The first.

[D]

It depends on your perspective. Yeah. Like, you weren't our level, but you're also not, like, incompetent.

[A]

Yes, we looked like we'd seen a.

[D]

Snowmobile, but you had good attitudes, and you were. You were stoked on it.

[E]

You made snowball.

[D]

We don't know what it is. Give a. We're not gonna be like, oh, we're not gonna ride with you because of that. Any day on the mountain is a good day for us, whether we're up in the. Where only we can get to, or whether we're down in a good spot where everything.

[A]

Out with you little peasants.

[B]

No, not even make it up the hill.

[D]

Not even. Because I love to watch. Watch.

[B]

But that's the progression of you guys.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, pushes yeah, that's like. What we love is, like, another thing of the industry. Like, oh, well, good guys only rides good guys. Totally false.

[D]

Like, screw that.

[E]

Some of our favorite days are riding with guys that are learning and trying to progress, you know, and what helps them progress further is pushing them. Yeah.

[A]

And that's why I love riding with you guys, because it's great. We get to go out and I get to see the way that you would attack something, go at it. We did that with Brett. We did Jackson training grounds.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

I love that.

[A]

And I learned more that day than I have in a long time.

[D]

I saw that through the video. Brett's putting these guys through the motions, and I can see in the video that they're learning.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's just the video through the mistakes. Probably so much behind the scenes that Mike, like, what the. I mean, I was like, this.

[C]

Like, this is really difficult. And then it's. It was like, we had a handful of people that are, oh, you guys are going to Jackson. Why aren't you racing it?

[A]

Because I wouldn't make it past the first.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

There's a few breaks. There's a few other, you know, let's just say, like, snowmobilers in the industry, they got the same questions, I'm sure. Yeah. And then they were like, well, I'm not ready. And I'm just like. I don't even know how to put into words why I'm not doing it.

[A]

But I'd go throw my sled at the mountain. It's going to end up at the bottom of it.

[C]

And then I think the. The cool thing about that is, like. Like, okay, so people really, really covet it or covet, like, I don't know. It's just like, X Games. It's like hearing the story that Brett told about what it took to get there.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Some people might go, why?

[D]

Yeah, why?

[C]

Why so much effort? But it's just the passion coveted, and then obviously the passion.

[E]

Huge. Yeah. No, you guys should raise.

[C]

But there was. Well, so there's a. To be honest, not in the near. Near future, but there is a. The qualifying race that's closest to us is in Michigan.

[E]

The master circuit is that. Yeah, it'd be the master.

[C]

Yeah. I think that'd be a lot of fun to. To either just. Just get my feet wet, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not even try to qualify for.

[D]

I think you would enjoy it. Like, I'm not trying to push you to do something because we. We do it, and we think it'd be good for whatever. I genuinely. From friend to a friend. You would enjoy it. That's why we do it.

[C]

So.

[E]

Damn.

[D]

Everyone shows up because they love it.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It's not some facade, you know, it's.

[E]

Like we just become obsessed over, you know, like when we started racing, we were racing, you know, smaller CC sleds that are usually stock, maybe improved. And now we're strapping it on factory mods and you just can't get.

[C]

Yeah, you guys, the sleds are insane.

[D]

Yeah, strap on. Best strap on you ever.

[C]

Like, how much horsepower?

[E]

You know, that's.

[B]

We get that all the time.

[C]

Sure.

[E]

People are like, like, what's horsepower? And you know, really, it's not that much. It's the slide tunability and how well they work.

[D]

Yeah. The efficiency of everything.

[E]

It used to be. We used to build extremely high, like when we were building on mods. High boost, ton of power, hard to ride. Now, like, the actual power, they're probably down, but they work so perfect. And then you can ride them too. And that's why they're faster. You know, horsepower wise, they're probably not up to what we used to build 10 years ago. They're not playing close.

[A]

Yeah. But the sled's like three times the sled. And it feels probably much more than three times.

[E]

It feels probably like more power because you can ride it. It's manageable.

[A]

Yeah, they're just perfect.

[E]

And overall factory mods are just insane days.

[C]

All right, crack them. And then we better get to. We better get to it.

[A]

The reason that we came.

[C]

Yeah, we get. There's a big obstacle course and there's a dunk tank and I don't know who you guys are against, but are you guys against each other?

[D]

We haven't heard any of those.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You guys know some rules that we don't know?

[C]

No, I just know there's an obstacle course and I would love for you guys to be against each other because they'd be pretty entertaining. The loser goes in the dunk tank, but it's. It's a dunk tank of battery acid, so it's kind of scary sick.

[D]

Jeffrey D. Style.

[C]

I just started watching that show. Instagram, dude. On Netflix.

[D]

Have you couple.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's intense. Yeah.

[E]

There's some messed up people out there.

[D]

Anyway, none of us are like that. Nope.

[C]

We're all.

[B]

Again, just.

[C]

We're normal people with some social media influence. And you guys are normal people that are really good at snowbanking. Yeah. Cheers to that.

[D]

Yeah, cheers to that. We love you all.

[A]

Thank you guys for taking the time.

[D]

Thank you, guys.

[C]

Appreciate it. We're in a foreign environment here, but go ahead and subscribe and check us out on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube. Thanks, guys.

[A]

Yes, big thanks to Jay and Blaine and especially Brett and Nikki for coming on. Yeah, we love you guys and we'll have you out to Minnesota soon.