Getting Audited And Fined 2 Million Dollars

Summary

Life Wide Open with CboysTV – Episode Summary

Podcast: Life Wide Open
Episode Title: Getting Audited and Fined 2 Million Dollars
Release Date: October 18, 2022
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Mike, CboysTV team
Episode Theme:
This episode dives into the wild behind-the-scenes of CboysTV: childhood fibs, epic pranks, wild investment losses, a shocking $2.1 million fine from the authorities, being (almost) audited, and more. The guys swap hilarious stories, business lessons, and personal anecdotes, blending their signature irreverence with genuine learning moments about risk, honesty, and lessons from their YouTube journey.

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Table of Contents

1. Opening Banter & Childhood Fibs (00:00–12:50)
2. Jokes, Pranks, and Trolling (12:51–19:02)
3. Original Pranks & Social Experiments (16:04–19:18)
4. Fishing Tournament Cheaters (19:25–26:26)
5. The $2 Million Fine: Building the Dirt Bike Track (27:19–39:56)
6. Investments, Gambling, and Crypto Losses (41:01–48:20)
7. NFTs, Hype, and Recession Talk (48:20–52:15)
8. Speed Demons vs Slowpokes: Driving Debates (56:01–62:30)
9. Getting Audited and Tax Fears (52:35–55:10)
10. High School Memories & Language Goofs (64:01–70:00)

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1. Opening Banter & Childhood Fibs (00:00–12:50)

• The episode opens with classic Cboys goofing—Evan’s noxious flatulence and jokes about internal organs ("Jeffrey Dahmer would have turned Evan away." – Mike, 00:16).
• Ryan launches into memories of telling little white lies as a kid:
  • Telling his dad he dented the car at Cherryberry, not a house party. ("It's getting drunk at a house party. I told my dad I was at Cherryberry." – Ryan, 02:09)
• Everyone shares cringe-worthy stories of being caught in harmless lies as teenagers ("I held true to my guns like I always do … this kid is a real idiot" – Mike, 05:03), reminiscing about adolescent mischief and the anxiety of being found out.
• Discussion reveals a dynamic of truth-telling to parents vs. easy “bullshitting” with random people. ("You and I could bullshit somebody so easy ... if it's with parents, totally different." – Ben, 06:09)

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2. Jokes, Pranks, and Trolling (12:51–19:02)

• A Cboys staple: convincing gullible guests of outlandish stories just for inside laughs.
  • Example: Convincing "Gavin the Three Wheeler Kid" that Ryan isn’t allowed to hang out with the group outside of filming, making up elaborate explanations that stretch believability ("...we just stretched it so far.” – Ben, 08:04).
  • Another: Pretending Mike doesn’t believe in banks, using his bartending cash stash to deceive friends and girlfriends.
• They discuss the joy (and ethical tug-of-war) in a good troll, especially when the mark is super gullible and everyone’s in on the joke.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “90% of the time when you guys are trolling, it’s all made up, right?” – CJ (08:50)
  • “It’s super fun to be on the inside of it, but when you’re on the outside…it sucks.” – Ryan (09:00)

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3. Original Pranks & Social Experiments (16:04–19:18)

• CJ details his “original idea” for a social experiment:
  • Planting a toilet paper roll at bar urinals to see what people do: "...am I supposed to wipe this down after I’m done?” – Ryan, 17:47
• Speculation about escalating the prank by adding fake poop or waiting for confused reactions, proving the Cboys’ endless appetite for public mischief.
• The team marvels that this may be a pioneering (if pointless) prank.

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4. Fishing Tournament Cheaters (19:25–26:26)

• Big topic: the viral story of fishermen rigging tournaments with weighted fish.
• They describe the takedown video:
  • “Full grown men all in this big fishing tournament…just standing there, completely neutral expression, whole crowd yelling at him.” – Ryan (20:16)
  • Huge winnings at stake—over $200,000—and immense outrage when the fraud is exposed.
• Discussion veers into legal questions: are these cheaters criminally liable? Would DNR (Department of Natural Resources) get involved?
• Key Takeaway: Opportunities with large stakes attract cheats, but eventually, the truth always surfaces—and it’s both dramatic and embarrassing ("Dude, talk about embarrassing everybody." – Mike, 22:23).

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5. The $2 Million Fine: Building the Dirt Bike Track (27:19–39:56)

• A cautionary tale from behind-the-scenes:
  • The Cboys commission a new dirt bike track on their property—"just moving some dirt"—and, without realizing, trigger multiple regulatory violations.
• A local complaint brings the county and then the state Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA).
• Five violations, each “$10,000 per day since the start of construction,” stack up to a theoretical $2.1 million fine. (“We all sat there together quietly…did we just have a $2.1 million fuck up?” – Ben, 32:37)
• The panic, guilt, and anxiety:
  • “It was scary. If it was one percent of that [$2.1M], that’s $21,000.” – Ryan (32:53)
• Resolution:
  • The officials, seeing it was an honest mistake, fine them ~$1,700. Still, between hydroseeding and remediation, the experience cost thousands and taught a hard lesson about getting permits and respecting local rules.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “We literally didn’t know what we were doing, and we learned a lesson from it.” – Mike (37:18)
  • “...being clueless enough where you don’t even have to lie.” – CJ (37:31)

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6. Investments, Gambling, and Crypto Losses (41:01–48:20)

• Pull Tabs Addiction:
  • Ben details his budding “pull tabs” gambling habit—losing, then winning $500, “electric for how excited we were”—but disclaiming that “all who play are losers, especially Evan.” (42:41)
• Ryan’s Crypto Woes:
  • Shares his shocking crypto loss:
    • “The market value of my crypto is $16,838…my return on investment is negative $31,330.” – Ryan (43:57)
    • “You could have bought a cool car and totally had…Your Camaro would be going up in value more than your crypto.” – Mike (44:37)
• Contrast between gambling (“You guys dump in all the money") and the faux righteousness of “investing” in crypto.

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7. NFTs, Hype, and Recession Talk (48:20–52:15)

• NFT skepticism:
  • The guys dissect the NFT bubble, hype cycles, and Logan Paul’s infamous $623,000 NFT now worth $10 ("He lost way more than you, but he also has way more money than you.” – Mike, 45:33).
  • Ben suggests some digital tickets may have real long-term value, but everyone remains skeptical.
• Banter on hype-driven assets (Dogecoin, NFTs) and parallels to financial bubbles.
• Segue into economic recession:
  • Is this as bad as it gets? How do interest rates, property markets, and general unease affect the guys directly?

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8. Speed Demons vs Slowpokes: Driving Debates (56:01–62:30)

• Ben is accused of driving his Lamborghini “to the book”—only 5 mph over, even on open highways:
  • “We left Heydays before all of you guys, and we somehow ended up showing up last. You guys were in trucks with large trailers.” – Mike (56:01)
  • “All I’m saying is if you drive 55 in a 55, I can’t hang with you, man.” – CJ (59:10)
• The crew debates insurance costs, risk, and whether supercars demand super-speed.
• Philosophical differences: risk-averse vs. thrill-seeking, and the logic behind “just a little over” the speed limit.
• Hilarious beefs, including Mike wanting to eat bone-in chicken wings in Ben’s Lambo (“Can you maybe not eat chicken wings in my car?” – Ben, 61:35) and the social faux pas it creates.

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9. Getting Audited and Tax Fears (52:35–55:10)

• CJ reveals he's being audited by the IRS (“...it’s from the IRS. I’m like, that’s never fun … I think they’re auditing you.” – CJ, 53:12).
• Group reflects on tax mishaps, the dread of IRS letters, and what it really means to be audited when you run a YouTube business.
• General fear and frustration with taxes, paperwork, and the lack of easy answers.
• Lighthearted suggestion that Ken might be “the one who hasn’t been paying at all.”

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10. High School Memories & Language Goofs (64:01–70:00)

• Nostalgia about high school – skating to classes, “Drive Your Tractor to School Day,” and questionable fashion choices.
  • “I would wear, like, a white flannel and purple skinny jeans and…probably skate to school.” – CJ (64:49)
  • “It was either drive my tractor or skate to school.” – CJ (65:07)
• Running gag: group relentlessly corrects each other’s pronunciation or word use, even in serious moments or high-pressure situations; they see it as a sign of true friendship (“Maybe our delivery isn’t always the best.” – Ryan, 67:01).
• Banters on embarrassing moments, linguistic slip-ups, and how these little rituals keep the team’s camaraderie sharp and fun.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On being scared of bureaucracy:
  “We all sat there together quietly … did we just have a $2.1 million fuck up?” – Ben (32:37)
• On investing gone wrong:
  “The market value of my crypto is $16,838. My return on investment is negative $31,330.” – Ryan (43:57)
• On winning big then losing more:
  “We were like, just high-fiving and we were like, we’re going to take our win and we’re going to walk.” – Ben (42:10)
• On prank originality:
  "Has anyone ever done that? Ever put a toilet paper roll in a urinal?" – CJ (19:04)
• On friendship:
  “I think that’s what a good friend would do, though. Maybe our delivery isn’t always the best.” – Ryan (67:01)
• On pulling pranks:
  “It’s more of us...trying to see how far we can...make it seem so far fetched, but have them still believing us in a way—kind of making them seem stupid. And then it’s just an inside joke.” – Mike (06:48)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening Fib Stories: 01:09–12:50
• Pranking & Trolling Discussions: 06:30–19:00
• Walleye Cheating Tournament: 19:25–26:26
• Dirt Track Fine Story: 27:19–39:56
• Crypto Losses/Gambling: 41:01–48:20
• Tax/Audit Worries: 52:35–55:10
• Driving Debates: 56:01–62:30

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Takeaways & Tone

• Fun, irreverent, and confessional—classic CboysTV.
• Real lessons on consequences (“Always check the permits!”) and the unpredictable nature of business when you’re learning as you go.
• Friendship and laughter shine through, even as they stare down $2 million fines and $30k crypto losses.
• Listener gets the inside scoop—especially useful for aspiring content creators who might underestimate the bureaucracy behind “just moving some dirt.”

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode captures everything that makes Life Wide Open so infectious: friendship, honesty, stupidity, and the ability to make every mistake into a story worth retelling.

Transcript

[Mike]

Smoking us out up here.

[Ryan]

What is Evan smoking?

[Mike]

No, he's farting.

[Ryan]

Oh, Evan couch potato.

[Mike]

I don't know what that guy eats, but his shit is pungent. Like his internal organs like that, I would imagine they're rotten.

[CJ]

It's just brewed differently.

[Mike]

Like, Jeffrey Dahmer would have turned Evan away type of stuff like he did. Evan would have stepped foot in his apartment, tooted like a little partial slit, and he would have said, dude, get out. I don't care. I had some real foul plans with you, but get out.

[CJ]

Out.

[Ryan]

You're too dirty.

[Mike]

That's what you said. And Evan be like, what? I thought we were going to hang out and take some pictures. And you're like, no, get out. Get out. Can I have a beer for the road? No, get the hell out. All right.

[Ben]

Okay. On that beautiful note, welcome back to the lifewide open podcast.

[Ryan]

Yeah, welcome back. It feels good to be back in the studio. Kind of was fun being out in Washington, but it's good to be back with the boys.

[Mike]

Yeah. Last podcast was legendary. I don't know if it was because I wasn't there or. Or probably more so just because it was an awesome podcast, but it was. It was fun listening to it as, like a true listener. It was excellent. If you guys haven't checked it out, go. Go listen to it after this one.

[Ryan]

But it is fun to be back with you guys. I was doing a little self reflection. I was thinking about, remember when you were a kid and you would. You would mess up and you didn't quite want to come clean with your parents about what you did?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And he would just come up with a little fib. I thought of. There was no way my dad even believe this for a second.

[CJ]

And before you tell it, it was little, right?

[Ryan]

Little big fib up for sure.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

It was right as we just started to like, drink back when we were a little younger. Definitely 13, 14. No, we're not that young. But you were there. I remember we smoked a cigar outside of his house.

[Mike]

What?

[Ryan]

Do you remember that outside of.

[Mike]

You too?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Smoking a cigar.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ryan]

Yeah. And we, like, hid behind the garage. Like it was a big deal for us.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ryan]

Anyway, we went to this house party and I, you know, drove my car over there, my beloved Scion tc, and we parked in the ditch outside of the house party.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And in some point in that evening, someone backed up and dented the side of my door and, like, mangled the side of the door. So I'm like, we come out in the morning yeah. And I was like, what am I gonna do? And I came back and I was like, well, what happened to your car? And I went, oh, me and the guys, we went to Cherryberry in a movie. And someone backed out and ran into the side of my car. It's getting drunk at a house party. I told my dad I was at Cherryberry.

[Ben]

So what, just.

[Mike]

You just had your insurance company pay for it?

[Ryan]

No, I think we did. Out of pocket, I think.

[Mike]

Wow.

[CJ]

Because it was, I mean, technically, like a hit and done, you know, they left the party, backed into your.

[Mike]

I thought you were gonna tell some story. Like, he was totally on to you. Like, this dude is lying.

[CJ]

Mind is out of it.

[Mike]

Just give it. Well, I mean, that was such a pretty minimal fib, right? Like, really stupid.

[Ryan]

No, I never have told him that. So if he's listening, this will be the moment that he knows. He'd be like, I knew you didn't go to Cherryberry.

[Ben]

Can I tell you something?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was me. I was buzzing on that cigar.

[Ryan]

Yeah, right. You were like, 14.

[CJ]

Yeah. I couldn't even drive yet have even hit him in. You were not driving.

[Mike]

Are you actually lying? Because I wish that was true.

[Ben]

No, I'm kidding. I. I held that in.

[Mike]

I didn't even have my driver's license. Yeah, I was buzzing so hard, I knew I needed to go home.

[Ryan]

Get this man his keys.

[Ben]

1.

[Mike]

I had a friend, and I guess the only time I can think of where I was fibbing and it was very obvious you were good at telling the truth.

[Ryan]

I wasn't.

[Mike]

Was. I was with my friend Sean, and he was such a troublemaker. And it was like, we're in the ninth grade, he had his license, and we're buzzing around and, like, you'd be like, let's hang out. And he'd come pick me up, and we just cruise around town. Then we'd, like, go to Walmart and, like, just me and him. And, like, he would, like, just do some dumb shit and I'd just be tagged along. Anyways, we, like, pull into his. His house. And his dad was a really nice guy, but, like, he was smart. And I.

[Ben]

He was actually.

[Mike]

I think he was in the Marines at one point. And he's, like, a pretty successful guy. I can't remember what he did. Something in software, but he was a smart dude. Like, he could look you in the. In the eye and, like, know if you're alive. So we pull up and he goes, make sure you don't tell my dad that we went To Walmart. Don't tell my dad that we went to Walmart.

[Ben]

Like, you weren't supposed to be at Walmart.

[Mike]

I don't know. Apparently not. And, like, we hop out and his dad's in the parking lot or in his driveway, and Sean runs in and leaves me just out to dry. And his dad goes, so siege. What were you guys up to? And I was like, not at Walmart.

[Ben]

Target.

[Mike]

Just driving around.

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Mike]

I don't even know what I said. I like, said, maybe we went and got ice cream or something, like. And he was really, you sure about that? I'm like, you know, like, I'm at that point backtracking in my tracks. And he goes, I think you guys went to Walmart. No, he had to have a tracking device on him, now that I look back on it. But I just held true to my guns like I always do. And I was like, no, no. He just, just sat there looking me like, this kid is a real idiot. But I just hung out to drive by his idiot son, which we were both idiots, but at least at that time. And he's not anymore. I still am, but. But yeah, that was pretty embarrassing moment, just being caught at that age just in a lie. But I. I held true.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Almost couldn't have got out. I'm pretty sure I was sweating.

[CJ]

I just love, like, Stern Goat dude, the series of events there. When you started telling that story, Ryan goes, yeah, see, you really have always been good at telling the truth. And then it's like, did you go to Walmart? Yeah.

[Mike]

Normally your parents.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Well, did you go to Walmart?

[Mike]

I didn't see what the problem with going to Walmart was, but apparently he.

[Ryan]

Didn'T want it more.

[Mike]

Want me telling his dad that we were at Walmart. I'm like, dude, we didn't even do anything bad.

[Ben]

It's funny how, like, you have always told the truth with your parents and everything like that, but, like, you and I could bullshit somebody so easy. But it's like, if it's. We're putting, like, two completely different positions where, like, I'm probably still not a very good liar, but, like, I'm a really good bullshitter.

[Mike]

Yeah. If I'm messing with someone, I couldn't, like, make them believe that we just got back from Russia. Yeah, we were in Russia, like, filming this video with that Russian YouTuber you probably don't know. You know, we would, like, just make this whole thing up.

[Ben]

FPS. I've never really looked at that as, like, lying. It's like, I never, like, feel bad about it.

[Mike]

It's like ridiculous. It's so ridiculous because you're trying to see when. When you and I do that, when we're messing with people, it's more of us. It's not us lying. It's us trying to see how far we can. How Dracula is this story and make it seem so far fetched, but have them still believing us in a way, kind of making them seem stupid. And then we just. It's like an inside joke, right?

[CJ]

Sometimes we'll pick up.

[Ben]

We'll pick up on it immediately if we can kind of push our limits with somebody. Like a couple videos or a while back, Gavin, the three wheeler kid, came up and we found out basically in the first like 15 minutes that this dude was so gullible, like he would believe anything.

[Mike]

Oh. He had no reason not to believe us.

[Ben]

Right. So naturally me and CJ are just like instant bullshitting.

[CJ]

Like.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

It got to the point where we had to.

[Mike]

You left and we made up this whole elaborate story like, oh, yeah, Ryan. Yeah. He's not allowed to hang out with us if we're not like working, like, filming.

[CJ]

What? Why?

[Mike]

Well, this girl, man, she doesn't like us. He's a what? And he still dates her. We're like, yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. He just loves her. And like, we're just going on and on and we stretched it so far.

[Ben]

And then you came back and you were like, I gotta go home. Like, I got dinner with my girl. And Gavin like took his hat off.

[Mike]

And he's like, man, dude, come on, I'm here from Colorado.

[Ryan]

Hey. Him busting my chops about that, a.

[Mike]

Couple beers, we're like, yeah. He's like, not allowed to drink or nothing.

[Ben]

I'm not sure if we actually ever cleared that up with him. No, we did that.

[Mike]

We did the next day. Okay. We let him believe it for a whole night.

[Ben]

Because there is a lot of things.

[Ryan]

Where we just like let him go.

[Mike]

Yeah. I think we also convinced them that.

[CJ]

You were a liberal 90.

[Ben]

You guys always do that.

[Ryan]

Such a pinch. I'm like, I'm not. And then they're like, oh, Jesus. Okay.

[Mike]

Man, he believed it. No one ever. Second they go, yeah, I could see. They always say that. I ain't not saying there's anything wrong. Like, I'm not going to discriminate against anything. But it's funny to say Ryan is like circling back.

[CJ]

I mean, I don't know if this is necessarily a good thing, but 90% of the time when you guys are trolling, it's like all made up, right? You know, like the only thing that's not made up is that you're using a real person as your example.

[Ryan]

And it's super fun to be on the inside of it, but when you're on the outside of it, it sucks.

[Ben]

Because you cuz outside, outside as.

[Mike]

As you don't even know what's going on. Hold up.

[Ben]

Outside as in you're the one being trolled or outside as in you're watching us do our thing on somebody else? Unsuspecting?

[Ryan]

A bit of both mainly. Either when you are on the outside of the troll, when like maybe I know I'm being trolled, which because now I finally picked up on that and that really sucks. Or when you're on the outside of it and someone is being trolled and you're like dude, it's not true. Or you're like, you just want to stop.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You're pretty good about not intervening though. But this little weasel.

[Ryan]

I'm sorry I cut you off, Mike, but yeah, instantly.

[CJ]

Oh, instantly. Like basically they could have the best troll in the world going and I'll probably ruin it in about a second without even trying. I'm just that dumb.

[Ben]

No, I think you get some kind of like enjoyment out of just ruining it.

[CJ]

I would say like you get some.

[Ben]

Of them, it makes you happy knowing that me and cj, I think your.

[CJ]

Guys is really dumb ones. I do.

[Ben]

Well, those are the best. Those are the ones that like shouldn't be believable. Those are the ones that are so.

[Mike]

Outlandishing it like super far.

[CJ]

No, and that's what, that's what I'm saying. It's like it, it's all perspective. I mean we've talked about this before, but when you convinced Greta that I like didn't have a bank account.

[Ben]

Such.

[CJ]

A good one, I went along with it for two weeks. Like how?

[Mike]

Well that, that one's pretty harmless. That's funny.

[Ben]

I convinced my girlfriend that Mike didn't believe in bank accounts because he had.

[Ryan]

A bunch of cash.

[Ben]

Cuz he had a bu of cash because he used to be a bartender. So he had like 200 bucks in cash next to his bed. And I was like, yeah, he doesn't believe in bank accounts. I have to pay him it. Oh, Mark, Mark, our buddy Mark, we bought him the watch. He still believes that actually. So he might be listening to this.

[Ryan]

Like hey, my favorite.

[Ben]

Five years later when they both went.

[Ryan]

Doesn't his mom work at a bank.

[CJ]

That's.

[Ben]

That's kind of. He saw the inner workings of it. He was like, I don't trust the system.

[CJ]

Well, no. And then she asked me that, and then I was like, yeah, she does. You're not dumb. She works at a bank and I use a bank. There's so 90% of the time, you're just pulling stuff out of your ass. And you're really good at quite literally piling so much shit over that, you. You don't. You don't sift through.

[Ryan]

You don't even want to dig in.

[CJ]

So if there is something that it's like someone's being fish having, like, it's a legitimate thing someone's being fishy about. But if you guys Power Ranger up together and start piling on the lie, it's gone, dude. I mean, it's just. It's impressive. A little scary, but it's impressive, dude.

[Ben]

It's truly one of my favorite things to do.

[CJ]

That's what I mean, you guys, everyone knows that. You two are cousins, but, like, I mean, no, you.

[Ben]

I don't think everyone knows that.

[CJ]

I should.

[Ben]

I should say almost everyone doesn't know. I think that's.

[CJ]

That's where the dynamic, the dynamics come from.

[Ben]

I'm kidding.

[Ryan]

Like, they're connected.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Let me hear some of your guys's fibs. I wanna, like, what's a good fib?

[CJ]

No. Yeah. I was trying to think while you're telling your story.

[Mike]

I got one more good one. So in the ninth grade, when I. Like, if you were a hockey player, you go into high school, it was like this big thing that all the older kids chewed. So me and my buddy Will blank his name. We go and get chew, which was very accessible as, like, 15. We're, like, chewing it, dipping it, whatever. And. And it went fine. We must have got, like, some weak. And then we went and did it the next week and got some more. And it was right after hockey practice. And I put that thing in. Holy. I started buzzing so hard that I threw up all over the parking lot. He had to, like, drive me home. I'm, like, throwing up out the window. I get home, my parents like, what the hell happened to you? I'm like, oh, I just ate. Bad Taco Bell. Bad Taco Bell. And, like, just went to bed.

[Ryan]

CJ's got dip stuck in his teeth. And.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I never chewed ever since then.

[Ryan]

Good for you.

[Mike]

Which was. Honestly, probably.

[Ben]

That's, like, the best thing.

[Mike]

That's like, I think, sick off that Right away.

[Ben]

The one time I tried it too. Or like, the Zen. The pouch thing was buzzing. Start throwing up everywhere.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's good.

[Ben]

But I was, like, buzzing way too hard. Like, I always started, like, hallucinating. I was buzzing so hard at the.

[Mike]

Time, I felt like a pussy. But like, realistically, best thing, because a lot of those guys are still addicted to it. And now it's like, really not that cool if you're like, you know, nowadays.

[Ben]

Same thing. I did the exact same thing too, with, like, the big vapes. Like the big rig vapes.

[Ryan]

The clouds.

[Ben]

When we were in the college house. Like, Jake, Ken, maybe you.

[CJ]

I think at the time it was. It was myself, Justin, myself, Ryan, Jake, Justin.

[Ben]

And you guys were always ripping.

[Ryan]

I was a big.

[Mike]

That might be the least.

[Ben]

Like those huge clouds, right?

[Mike]

And I think a tweet.

[Ben]

I was doing it for maybe five days. And then I was, like, seeing how much I could, like, do well.

[CJ]

I was like.

[Ben]

And then I started just. Dude to throwing up everywhere. And I haven't done it since.

[CJ]

Like, I remember, of course, this is, like, Jake's idea, but, I mean, we're all participating. He goes, let's just pass it around and take, like, the biggest rips we can until something happens. That's what. Like, what we did.

[Ben]

Okay, well, I found out what happened.

[Mike]

Wait.

[Ryan]

And then, guys, remember when. When Ken had it.

[Ben]

Oh, dude, that might be the funniest thing that has ever happened to date. That has never seen the Internet.

[Ryan]

The Internet hasn't.

[Mike]

He freaked out so bad that I deleted it.

[Ben]

Yeah, tell the story. Tell the story.

[CJ]

Oh, I thought we already told this.

[Mike]

Are you sure we haven't told this?

[Ryan]

Did we told it?

[Mike]

All right, long story short, Ken had those vapes where you had to put the juice in. I ordered dog flavored vape juice, put in his vape. He came home, sucked that thing, and immediately knew we did something to it. Came up freaking out like. Like, very mad. And we all were laughing. And then he finally asked what we did to his vape, and we said, it's dog shit. And he thought we put literal dog shit, like, like some poop in his vape. And he immediately, you know, unsanitary, that is, and chucked the vape at me. Luckily missed. And then I had to buy him a new vape.

[Ben]

Remember when we went to the store what you told the vape guy? Running? Yeah. And then I had.

[Mike]

I like, went in. I know what I was buying. I was like.

[Ryan]

I like.

[Mike]

I like, thought it was funny. And they think I was gonna think it's funny. I, like, tell him the whole prank. So. So I need to get a vape. I don't know, like, what I need to get, but. So anyways, long story. I tell him the whole story. He goes, that's not funny. I learned real quick you don't mess with a vapor's vape. He didn't think it was funny at all. He was not amused at all. It was such a big deal that I. I don't know why, but I, like, actually got scared at how Ken was that I deleted all the video.

[Ryan]

Really?

[Mike]

I just deleted the snaps. I deleted.

[Ryan]

I was a different tie.

[Mike]

I don't know why I was so scared.

[Ben]

It was easily the top three maddest I've ever seen him.

[CJ]

Luck. Yeah. Luckily, I guess, the. That you deleted all of it. Luckily. That scenario lives rent free in my head. Yeah, it was like upstairs in the loft in my room, and we were. Yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

I remember it like it was yesterday.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[CJ]

And how could you forget it?

[Ben]

Really?

[CJ]

Yeah, he was really mad.

[Ben]

Oh, man.

[CJ]

I think. You know how you ever heard like that? Oh, I've never had an original thought. You know, you see tiktoks that are, like, relatable, and then you're like, damn, I do that. I thought. I thought I was the only one or whatever. I think I had an original, like, idea that no one's ever done, I think so.

[Ben]

You sure you want to say it right now?

[CJ]

Yeah, because I did it already. Oh, I didn't. I don't have the results of. It's like a social experiment. I don't know what you'd call it, but I'm in the. The urinal at TJ's and, you know, a couple other different bars too, but I'm in the urinal and I was like, oh, man, these. This. This one particularly was a little bit dirty. And then I was, you got to spit this out.

[Ryan]

You're in the urinals at TJ's. It's dirty.

[CJ]

And so then I was like, you know how when you get piss on the toilet rim of a normal toilet, if you're courteous, maybe not in a public restroom. Sometimes they're so grody you don't want to do it, but you wipe it off because you're courteous, of course. What if you put a roll of toilet paper in the urinal and just see what people do?

[Ben]

So I hold up in the urinal?

[CJ]

No, not in the urinal, but, like, you know, there's stalls if it's only if there's a stall next to you.

[Ben]

Oh, like on top of the urinal?

[CJ]

No, just like urinals here stalls. Like, there's a divider. So I got these adhesive toilet paper rolls, and I like. I put one on there and put a toilet paper roll on it. Never saw what people thought of it, but I just wanted, like, I put the toilet paper roll in there. I'm like, I bet people are, like, pissing. They're like, am I supposed to wipe this down after I'm done?

[Ryan]

Oh, man, that's fucking funny, dude.

[Mike]

You should have put some fake shit in there too.

[CJ]

That'd be exactly.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[CJ]

I'm liking where that's going too. Kind of like bring it even further. I like both sides of it because I'm like, what there? You know, there's like, such a thing.

[Mike]

Are we supposed to take a jump?

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah. There's like, such a thing as, like, a social experiment or a prank where you really never get the reactions of, which is kind of like that.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's the love of the game. You waited until someone came in and then you were, like, pulling your pants up and facing the wrong way, like, as if you just did it.

[Ben]

But then.

[Mike]

And howdy.

[CJ]

You make it, like.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Really obvious that you were shitting the urinal, but then they see the toilet paper roll and they're like, so hold up.

[Ben]

You have done it.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And you even brought toilet paper over there?

[CJ]

Well, no, I took one out of there. Yeah. Like, I didn't have toilet paper, but I had the thing, which was kind of dumb.

[Ben]

But can you imagine how confused the worker were? Went in to clean it that night and they were like, hey, Jennifer, when did we start putting, like, the little toilet paper holder adhesive on the.

[CJ]

Should I reload that or we go back in? Yeah, the roll is empty. But I'm basically just gonna hit all the local bar and restaurants.

[Ben]

The toilet paper bandit.

[CJ]

Yeah. So I guess now people know, but that is. That.

[Ben]

That's a pretty original idea, Mike.

[CJ]

I guess that was the moral story, as dumb as it is. Like, has anyone ever done that? Ever put a toilet paper roll in a urinal?

[Ben]

I haven't. I haven't seen it.

[CJ]

I haven't seen it either. So I just.

[Ryan]

Congrats, Mike. You did it, dude.

[CJ]

Thanks.

[Ryan]

You pioneered something.

[Mike]

Man.

[CJ]

It feels good to be a gangster.

[Ben]

Dude.

[Ryan]

Did you guys see those? I saw it all over Tick Tock. But those fishermen that rigged that tournament and put lead weights in, like, fish fillets inside of Those fish? Yeah, in like a tournament. Like, they were playing multiple.

[CJ]

I mean, over. I don't know how long it was, but they said multiple tournaments.

[Ryan]

Oh, really? So they were like cereal.

[Ben]

Well, because they must get money.

[CJ]

I'm assuming it happened. And then they were like. They have no way of proving it, but they were like, these guys had to have done it at least.

[Mike]

They're just like constant winners. Yeah. I mean, they won so much, and you're, you know, one time they're gonna second guess all your life.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

What was the problem? How do they figure it out?

[Ryan]

Well, they.

[Ben]

I haven't seen the video. How do they figure it out?

[Ryan]

I'll pull it up.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

But they literally, they. It was kind of aggressive, the way the guy, like, rips.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Full grown men all in this big fishing tournament.

[Ben]

Fishermen do not around.

[Ryan]

This part is the guy is just standing there watching the guy very aggressively, like, rip stuff out of this fish. And he's just standing there, like, completely neutral expression. There's a whole crowd of people yelling at him.

[Mike]

Like, I thought there was a.

[CJ]

No.

[Ben]

Was there a fight?

[CJ]

I was saying the best part is, like, before they started exposing him, or maybe as they were exposing him, the authorities or whoever's running the thing was like, don't, like, hurt him. Because people were basically like, yeah, we knew it. You want to get punched in the face. Like they're getting in line basically to like.

[Ben]

Was this like a paid event?

[CJ]

Yeah, like.

[Ben]

Like champion one money or what they win?

[Ryan]

I'm not sure about this, but I did see that these guys had won, like over $200,000 in fishing.

[CJ]

Holy pretty fishing tournaments.

[Ben]

Oh, so they were like the big dogs.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Everyone found out that they're.

[Mike]

Damn. What quite the scheme got on airplane.

[Ryan]

Dude, watch these guys.

[CJ]

That's a dude.

[Ryan]

That's the dude. Look how this is his face the entire time.

[CJ]

Look big. I think those are either one or two pound lead balls.

[Ryan]

He's just standing there like this. He's just like, yo.

[CJ]

Don't we need.

[Ben]

To file a police report?

[CJ]

People are just yelling.

[Mike]

Police report.

[CJ]

Every single fish, every tournament you won.

[Ryan]

Look at how aggressively he rips the.

[Ben]

Weight out of these fish.

[Ryan]

He's just slaying.

[CJ]

Dude. Like, everyone is riled up for good reason. But yeah.

[Ben]

Wait, you hear the people in the background?

[CJ]

Okay. The people in the background are the best part.

[Mike]

Is that a fillet?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

They were stuffing all their ways. He's just standing there just like this.

[Mike]

Why didn't he just leave?

[CJ]

I don't know. I Don't even know.

[Ryan]

He's just standing right there.

[Mike]

Talk about embarrassing everybody.

[Ben]

Listen to me right now.

[Mike]

Wait, Jake, I want you to leave.

[Ryan]

I don't want anybody to touch these guys.

[Ben]

This put this guy.

[Mike]

That is.

[Ben]

I think that is illegal.

[Ryan]

I mean, to be fair, he is rigging.

[Ben]

Yeah, he's rigging.

[Ryan]

It's a pretty big deal.

[Ben]

And.

[CJ]

And I guess not to mention like a. A tournament with serious winnings on the line.

[Ben]

Holy.

[CJ]

Okay, so I mean, and that's the crazy part. They were blatantly cheating all their fish.

[Ben]

We all knew it.

[Mike]

Couldn't they just look at the fish and be like, there's no way this thing weighs this much.

[Ryan]

You would think it must just be that tight of a race, you know, like a pound or two. Either way, look at the dude in the flip flops.

[Ben]

That's a walleye.

[Mike]

It's cooked in everything. Still warm.

[Ben]

What happened to the guys?

[CJ]

To be honest, I don't.

[Ryan]

I actually don't. I don't know.

[CJ]

What.

[Mike]

Why does he sit there and just watch like he's like a five year old kid.

[Ben]

Look up, look up. What was his last name?

[Mike]

Dude, there's no way this guy's social media after this. He deleted everything.

[Ben]

Just look up like his. Like a news article.

[Ryan]

Okay, what happened to walleye cheaters? Boat and trailer seized.

[CJ]

Not surprised because that's apparently what they won. They won in one of their tournaments. They won a boat and trailer and I think they seized it. They came without. I don't know if that was the winning for that one, but they seized it because it was a winning for a previous tournament. And they were like, we can't. You can't have this.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Knowing what.

[Ben]

Yeah, you cheat one time. And even if the rest of them were all credible, dude, I mean not.

[CJ]

A good look is well moral of the story here. This is incredibly entertaining. Is it okay? I mean, absolutely not. But like what do you expect? I guess it's like it's a fishing tournament that like, what if the dude was just. What if he wasn't even that big of a fisherman and he was just like. It's. I learned how to cheat in the fishing tournaments and then.

[Ben]

That's funny. Yeah, we. We were actually thinking about doing bit where we went and like infiltrated a fishing tournament and then we went and just like found out who the most like hardo guys were and then we with them, like mess with them but like butt our boats like right up next to them and start casting in the exact same spot. I don't know. I've never been in a fishing tournament, but I can't imagine.

[Mike]

I think they'd fight too stoked. At least there'd be someone there that would. If we start.

[Ben]

Oh, dude, after watching that video, yeah, they would be hot. Maybe it's a little bit different around here. Was that local or like, where was that?

[Mike]

You're trying to Lake Erie. Provide for your family, make some money. You're doing this as a professional. You're dedicating your whole life to this craft, and then these guys are coming in cheating it, taking basically winnings from you.

[Ryan]

What I did see is they'd accumulated several hundred thousand dollars worth of prize, but nothing yet. No charges, nothing like that. That I've seen someone.

[Mike]

I don't know if there's anything illegal about that, though.

[Ryan]

No, you're breaking a tournament. Like, it's for sure got to be illegal.

[CJ]

It's like, it'd be like. I mean, I feel like you. Y. Would you get in legal trouble if you, like, rigged a golf?

[Mike]

I think you could get banned.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, it's like cheating in a football game. You can go to jail.

[CJ]

True. There's fines, but you don't go to jail.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's gotta be.

[CJ]

Yeah. The people in the background put them in jail. I don't know.

[Ben]

I feel like the DNR would get involved of. Of some sort.

[Mike]

I feel like.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, I bet they would.

[Mike]

I don't think the DNR have anything to do with tournament fishing.

[CJ]

They have to, dude.

[Ben]

Are you serious? They have to.

[Mike]

You think they're like the ref or what?

[Ben]

No, I feel like they have some kind of involve. Involvement they call the deal in a situation like that. I doubt it's like the cops.

[Mike]

I don't know what the DNR would be.

[CJ]

Well, I guess it's interesting.

[Mike]

Unless it's like a. Like some kind of abuse of how much fish you can take or, like, shoving them down their throat. Maybe they could get like. Maybe some kind of inhumane type of thing.

[CJ]

But, yeah, fish do kind of get.

[Ryan]

To go by that. There's not many rights for fish. Not saying there should be. Yeah, you know, there's really.

[CJ]

You know what, man?

[Ryan]

I've already done it for the turtles. I can't do anymore.

[CJ]

Yeah, true, dude. I asked Ryan before this podcast if he had any fresh idiots of the week, and you said no.

[Ben]

However, those were your idiots. You guys might have taken it for sure.

[Ryan]

Those are our idiots, dude.

[Ben]

I bet they're getting roasted. Oh, every which way.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I can't yeah.

[CJ]

Dude, we're not even in the fish.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. We're roasting them because they were like.

[Mike]

I. I married you because I thought you were a good fisherman.

[Ben]

Yeah, that'd be a sad truth.

[CJ]

I bet they weren't telling. They weren't telling their wives that they were putting lead balls in the fish. Yeah.

[Mike]

Because obviously, being a good fisherman is what gets you the girls.

[Ryan]

Yeah, you know, Absolutely.

[Ben]

I'd imagine.

[Mike]

What do you mean, you imagine?

[Ben]

It's the truth, I guess. I don't know. I'm not a fisherman. Then again, I don't have chicks flocking, so maybe that's why you got to.

[Ryan]

Get out, start casting some rods and stuff. Shit or reels? Casting reels.

[CJ]

Okay.

[Ben]

I feel like. I feel like enough time has passed. The waters are calm again. Can we tell the story of when we got fined with our dirt bike track?

[CJ]

I think so, but I think as long as we just tell me.

[Ryan]

We did. We did wrap it up.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ryan]

So I think. I think we're good.

[Ben]

All right. Okay. So beginning of June, we had this dirt bike track built over on our property, and we had Rich come out, and we basically just told him, all right, we want a bunch of jumps, but nothing, like, too extreme, you know, so we can hit it on all these different things. And he's like, all right, I got it. We're like, oh, also, we want a pond. He's like, okay, great. Well, then we come back, like, the next day after he started. He's basically, like, moving the earth and a lot of it. Like, basically just reconstructing the entire property. And we're like, oh, okay. He's like, we're doing a lot. Well, then he moves, builds the track, builds the pond. Ended up just being, like, moving a lot more dirt than we thought. But we were like, well, about two weeks passes by.

[CJ]

It's finished.

[Ben]

After Is finished.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And we get a call from the county saying we had a local complaint about your guys' track. Can we come on out and check it out? So the county comes out, they look at it, kind of tell us, like.

[Ryan]

All right, this was like, the building codes people, right.

[CJ]

Well, they first and foremost said, do you have a permit? We said, you know, long story short, no, I didn't know. I didn't know.

[Mike]

I don't know. As far as I knew, if you.

[Ryan]

Were gonna build, you had to have.

[Mike]

A permit because we didn't put up pushing some dirt.

[CJ]

We didn't put up. Actually built actual buildings.

[Ben]

So, long story short, we apply for the permit Then they give us the permit and everything. And we're like, okay, great. About two weeks goes by, Ryan gets a call. Hey, so and so from the mpca. It's mpca, right?

[Ryan]

Mnpca.

[Ben]

No, no, it's mpca, Minnesota Pollution Control.

[CJ]

Mn.

[Ben]

No, it's mpca.

[Ryan]

Mpca.

[CJ]

Sorry.

[Ben]

Hey, so and so from the mpca.

[Ryan]

Minnesota Pollution Control Agency.

[CJ]

Agency.

[Ben]

We had a complaint about your guys's dirt bike track from somebody in the area.

[Ryan]

Anonymous.

[Ben]

Anonymous.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

We can't tell you who. We're like, of course. And can we come out and check out what you guys have there? So they come out and at this point, basically the entire thing was grown back over with grass. And we had the pond. So it was kind of like holding all the water from, like the rain and everything. We thought it was like, pretty solid. Yeah, we thought it was pretty solid. Right. And then they basically inform us of these certain things that if you move over and I believe an acre or you disrupt urban acre over an acre of land, then you have to have these different permits and things. Again, we had no idea. If you guys are watching this, you plan on like building a dirt bike tracker, doing anything in Minnesota. Use us as an example here. But let me pull up our violations.

[Ryan]

There was five of them.

[CJ]

But before you say that, I just. The one thing that was being kind of doomed upon us over the phone call was said exactly three times in a brief phone call. This could be a $10,000 per day or per fine per day. And that was said three times. And like, oh, I just like we.

[Mike]

Were like looking at multiple hundreds of thousands.

[Ben]

Well, no, just wait. So the first one, hire an individual trained in SWPP development. So that's rainwater.

[Ryan]

Basically, an engineer comes out and tells you where what you've moved, where the water is going to go.

[Ben]

Got it. So that's the first one. Submit a complete application to obtain coverage under the permit for the site. So get a permit for it. Stabilize the exposed soil of the interior of the track. So basically anything that didn't have grass growing on it was supposed to be stabilized with like hydro hydro seed or straw. Straw, yeah, something like that. So that was a third. And then have a trained individual come out every seven days or within 24 hours of a rainfall, and then obtain a trained individual for overseeing the implications of and revising the amended amendments of the SWPP and individuals performing the inspection. So basically somebody to come out and make sure everything was good, everything is getting fixed. Right. So five violations and each violation could have been $10,000 a day. So $50,000 a day since the start of construction.

[Ryan]

And I calculated out it was like one, two, three, four, five, six weeks.

[Ben]

So six weeks. So six weeks times.

[Mike]

It's like millions of dollars just from building a dirt bike track on your field.

[Ben]

50,000 times my calculation. $2.1 million. 2.1 million.

[Ryan]

$2.1 million was. We kind of knew that odds are it wasn't going to be a worst case scenario situation. But we all sat there together quietly star and went, did we just have a $2.1 million fuck up? Like it was. It was scary.

[Ben]

Yeah, it was very scary.

[Ryan]

If it was 1% of that, that was $21,000. We're like, Geez, that's an expensive dirt bike track. So we were scared, you know, like when.

[CJ]

Yeah, when they peg or whatever. Let's say you get caught smoking weed and they say that could be up to five years in jail. It's never actually that much. It just never really is. I mean, sometimes so. But they kept saying it. They came out to inspect the land and they kept throwing this $10,000 per day. So it was ingrained in our heads. And then we sat down and went, why that so much?

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[Ben]

Yeah, it was. It was a, like a terrifying time. We were all hoping, like, okay, well, if we're, like, compliant and we get everything fixed super fast, maybe they'll be lenient. But, like, what is lenient? 10% of that is still. What?

[Ryan]

Well, 10% would have been 200.

[Ben]

200,000. $200,000. So anyway, they come out, they give us all these things, and they, you know, tell us the. The issues, the fines, and then it.

[CJ]

Went all right, right?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

The guy was super nice about it too. And obviously he could tell, like, we weren't doing it intentionally. And it wasn't like our third violation of doing it. And we were like, look, we just wanted to build a dirt bike track. We've never built anything ever. We've never moved this much dirt before. We didn't.

[CJ]

We didn't even do it, really.

[Ben]

We didn't know. Yeah, it'd be one thing too, if we were to hire, like, a professional team, because usually someone, like, professional, like a construction crew, would they have to know about that?

[CJ]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

So we were just like, look, we just had a buddy come out, kind of explained it to them. But, yeah, they, like, came back, and, like, I think they said that again, like, a couple times, like, well, just letting you know, like, this is what it could be. But if you're, like, compliant, we'll take that into consideration. So we're, like, bugging about it for basically a month. We get everything done super fast or as quick as we can. And we're dealing with other contractors for, like, hydro seed, too, and they're all busy, and we're like, look, we got to get this done fast. So we did everything that they needed. And then, like, a month goes by, and we're just hoping, okay, please, please, please, you know, take all that into consideration. And then they came back, and I think they find us, what, $700?

[Ryan]

No, it was, like, 1700.

[Mike]

Oh, was it?

[Ryan]

Yeah, still.

[Mike]

But that was pretty nice of them. Still. They were.

[CJ]

Yeah, they.

[Mike]

Yeah, obviously they got a job to do, and they understood that it was a mistake on our part. We didn't. We literally didn't know we were doing, and we learned a lesson from it, and, you know, they didn't freaking be pulling basically end our lives.

[CJ]

And that's. I think sometimes the beauty is nice of, like, being. I mean, I hate to call ourselves clueless, but being clueless enough where you don't even have to lie, you know, you. You didn't actually. You didn't ever for one second consciously, like, commit or walk over someone's rules or laws. Like, I mean, we just didn't know.

[Ryan]

Yeah. If we went and, like, built a housing development out there, I'd be like, yeah, I guess I can see how we'd probably have to do some planning.

[CJ]

Yeah. But for. For, you know, a bunch of. Basically, since most of our jumps are tabletops, a bunch of piles of dirt, the pond got pretty extensive. But, yeah, we just didn't know.

[Ben]

I guess it goes down to who's our weasel of a neighbor.

[Ryan]

I know.

[Ben]

Calling us into the county. And then when, like, the track doesn't get dozed, the next day they're like.

[Ryan]

All right, who's next?

[Ben]

Who's next? Who else could we call them into?

[Ryan]

And the worst part is, so they have to remain anonymous, but, like, we had to pay. Actually, the most expensive part was paying all the contractors to come out and spray the hydro seed and lay the straw tarp and all that stuff. Like, that was certified, like, four grand. So it's kind of bullshit that someone can complain and go anonymous when they cost you that type of money.

[Ben]

It is also interesting, like, who knows what the MPCA is? I didn't to call them.

[CJ]

Right. Someone must have told them to call them or something. But I'm glad we're good now. I mean, we use that track like every week, so. Good.

[Mike]

Like literally like once or twice a week probably. So it's not that extensive to really be complaining about.

[CJ]

Oh, I mean, I'm not complaining.

[Ben]

No, I was.

[CJ]

I was though. Oh, right.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Damn. Quite a lesson learned for sure.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I mean, always check with your local permits now. I know I want to put an approach. We got to get a permit for that too, right?

[CJ]

We do, yeah. I was like, right. You can't. You probably can't just build an approach in a ditch. No.

[Ben]

It's so easy to get a permit too. And it's like relatively cheap for what it could be if you don't get the permit and then they hit you with the fine too.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I feel like most of the time, if you're proactive on it again, we've.

[Ryan]

Never had our fucking life.

[CJ]

Yeah. Well, another thing, I was like. So when all that was happening, I guess moral of the story is, like, it all. It brought us all down, you know, we were all just bombed. It's like that happens and then you get this impending, like, what is going to be our punishment. And it definitely, like, slows us down a little bit and makes us way more apprehensive, which sucks.

[Ryan]

Goes back to what I said in the beginning. Dude, knowing you're in trouble is the fucking worst. Yeah, it's just the worst.

[CJ]

And it causes you to act differently. Differently. Yeah.

[Ben]

It's even not necessarily like the punishment most of the time.

[Ryan]

Just knowing you, it's just the.

[CJ]

The guilt.

[Ben]

The guilt and the headache of dealing with it. And how long does it, like, loom over you? Another kind of depressing news. Oh. Kind of became a pull tabs addict.

[CJ]

Oh, that is sad to hear.

[Ryan]

Are you down bad?

[Ben]

I've had a couple wins that have brought me back up, but I don't know what came over me. I don't either, actually. I'll tell you exactly what came over me. Me and Ken and CJ were out to dinner the other day, and me and Ken, I don't know why, but we were like, let's just go in like 20 bucks. 20 bucks, right? And then next thing you know, we're both in like 200 bucks. Didn't pull a single winner. CJ's. CJ's waiting for us. To be done so that he can go in on it. And we weren't gonna. I wasn't gonna let that happen, you know, him steal our money like that.

[Mike]

So we can't learn that from Ken.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's Ken's motive.

[Mike]

And he wins a lot.

[Ben]

He waits till you're done?

[Mike]

Well, yeah, sometimes, but yeah, he. Once he sees that you're done playing, he goes in if you didn't win, and he cleans up. What is polite about. I'd say that's the polite way to do it. He waits. But one time there was a little bit of blurred line. That's why it was like, all right, I'm going to jump in on this.

[CJ]

And then it's usually other people that are like, well, we weren't like done for the night. Well then how does that work?

[Mike]

Yeah, well, if you don't know them, then there's no such thing.

[CJ]

But it's called jump in the box. Is that what someone did to you?

[Ben]

No, no, I just self sabotaged and just lost it all myself. Yeah. But then me and Tint were at dinner the next night and I thought, there's no way that I could lose two nights in a row, you know, like any good gambler.

[CJ]

You're right about that, since you're hanging with 10.

[Ben]

Yeah, I think he'd be my lucky charm. Again, it was not going good at all. And then it went really good. We won 500 and it was electric. It was electric for how excited we were. It made up for all the money lost.

[CJ]

So did you come out ahead?

[Ben]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[Mike]

We.

[Ben]

We wouldn't do the math because we didn't want to know. We were like, just high fiving and we were like, we're gonna take our win and we're gonna walk.

[CJ]

The best part about that was that you were in. I mean, there's certain bars you could be at and win big and just scream and no one would really care. They go, nice. And then you guys were in like a sushi. Like quiet people around. You were. There was no noise, just little soft.

[Ben]

Yeah, I definitely would like. I wouldn't recommend anyone gets into it.

[CJ]

But neither it was.

[Ben]

People at play are losers, I think all of them. Especially Evan.

[Ryan]

Especially Evan. Evan, quit playing pull tabs. He's giving us a stink guy right now. You know, it's funny because I think when you guys do that, there's no worse usage of your money. I go, oh, these suckers, they lose every time. I watch you guys dump in all the money. And I recently signed up for this thing. It's called Cointracker, and it tracks what my crypto investments are doing when, you know, being a good kid, investing my money into something that can grow and flourish. I got a fricking update the other day. The market value. I don't even know. I didn't want to say this.

[CJ]

So you. Did you just get this app that's going to tell you your whole portfolio.

[Ryan]

The whole portfolio up and down. I didn't. I don't. I don't even really.

[CJ]

Ryan's like, we might end up cutting this. He edits it.

[Mike]

So I buy a lot crypto.

[Ryan]

I. I've went pretty deep on. On. On crypto. This is going to give a little insight to where all my money is. The market value of My crypto is $16,838.

[CJ]

This isn't sounding good.

[Ben]

Okay.

[CJ]

I'm scared.

[Ryan]

My return on Investment is negative. $31,330.

[Mike]

You've lost 31 grand.

[Ryan]

I have lost $31,000 investing in cryptocurrency.

[Ben]

Oh, wait, hold up. Is that how much you have invested in or from the peak?

[Ryan]

No, that is how much money I have lost.

[CJ]

I'm speechless.

[Ryan]

I have, like. I have lost that amount of money. 65 down. 65 in the last year.

[Mike]

The worst part is you could have bought, like, a cool car and totally had. You could have bought a Lamborghini, and.

[CJ]

Dude, you're not lost. Your Camaro would be going up in value more than.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

So another thing is that. Are you, like, now, I wouldn't call you, like, a sneaky investor, obviously. You just do it on your own time.

[Ben]

You know what I'm saying?

[CJ]

But there's people who invest and talk about it too much. There's people who invest and talk about it, and then there's, you know, people who quietly invest. And I just never. I knew at one time you were pretty heavy in it, at least as heavy as these two, because you guys talked about it. Not too much, but I didn't realize the extent of the investing.

[Ben]

I didn't know you kept going, Ryan.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's the thing is they say, buy the dip. Yeah, I kept buying.

[CJ]

Bought a lot of dipping, Ryan. Bought a lot of dips. Yeah.

[Mike]

Well, here's this. How about this? This will make you feel a little bit better. I saw today. I'm kind of curious. So an NFT that Logan Paul bought for $623,000.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Mike]

In 2021, is now worth $10. Oh so he lost way more than you but he also has way more money than you.

[Ben]

Dude, I thought that was going to probably comparable.

[Ryan]

Yeah, probably is.

[CJ]

Yeah I thought that was going to be like a positive story and I'm like high risk, high reward. But that was no clearly the 10 bucks dude.

[Mike]

I think NFTs and I maybe I'll end up biting my tongue later on but I never quite understood them.

[Ben]

It's not the picture the utility.

[Mike]

I get that and I recently but no one ever follows through with their utility that they promise. Well I also they always say all this stuff like oh we're going to do this and if you own this NFT and you're part of our our group you're going to get access to this and it always just crumbles to the ground. They have millions of dollars and you never hear a peep from them again.

[Ryan]

And you're left with nothing.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's definitely ridiculous and most of the projects are totally gonna flop. I don't even know if it's the utility behind it but it's definitely like I I still think there is something there. Like if a basket or a football game ticket on your phone is an NFT versus just a scannable QR code. They have that dude.

[Mike]

Like when I go to went to the MGK concert I had my tickets.

[Ryan]

On my phone as an nft.

[Mike]

As an NFT different you can call whatever you want. It's just a digital ticket.

[Ben]

No, but I know what I'm saying.

[CJ]

That's not what I'm saying.

[Ben]

Yeah yeah you can get a scannable QR code ticket which is what you had or like something like an NFT and if it's like the best football game ever then they're saying that ticket might be worth something someday.

[Ryan]

If it's like having a frame stub or something like that flame stub.

[Ben]

If you were to go and watch Michael Jordan play in a basketball game is record breaking game or something like that or like it's cool the miracle play for the Vikes when Stefan Diggs caught that one handed maybe that's worth something as an nft. So it's like I'm not really vouching for them because they are definitely ridiculous and especially like the stupid projects that Logan Paul like lost $670,000 on picking.

[Mike]

The good ones too but.

[Ben]

But I don't know. I feel like there is something at.

[CJ]

Least there and this is one of many examples of more the more unique ones. But I guess I Just recently thought about this in, like, the last month. Okay, so you remember Dogecoin, that was all hype. And NFTs are basically pumped up by hype. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but that's what it is, hype. You know, when Dogecoin got hyped up, everyone, some people are making crazy money. And when an NFT gets hyped up, some people make crazy money.

[Ryan]

Speaking of hype, I thought I had my words on the last podcast a couple of weeks ago when the Vikings lost, but now they're winning again.

[Ben]

Dude.

[CJ]

Yes.

[Ryan]

It's our year, and I think it's our year.

[CJ]

After four wins, I'm getting invested, I think. Are we allowed to say that?

[Ryan]

We're five weeks in, we're four and one, dude, we're top of the NFC North. We're going to win. We're going to win it all.

[Mike]

The real question, though, is, is this the end of the. Of, like, how much deeper is this recession gonna go? You know, because we're totally in a recession right now.

[CJ]

Oh, I thought. Oh, are we still talking about the Vikings?

[Ben]

It was a flip.

[Mike]

We're talking about.

[Ryan]

Can you imagine? The Vikings start winning, the whole economy goes to.

[Mike]

No, I'm talking back to, like, investing, I guess.

[CJ]

Okay, okay.

[Mike]

I wanted to get that in, but everyone.

[Ben]

It's okay.

[CJ]

Okay, we're good. I want to see. That was even better.

[Ryan]

Dude, I'll trade the economy for my bikes to win.

[CJ]

Sometimes, like, I don't get to. And I usually just bag it. Nah. But I felt.

[Mike]

Passed.

[Ryan]

No, you just.

[Ben]

No, no, no. It's definitely within the window. It was just so funny.

[Ryan]

I think we're going. I think it's got. I think it's getting a lot deeper.

[Ben]

It's going to hit the fan, dude. I guarantee, after the floor, no shit's going to hit the fan.

[CJ]

Shit will be hitting.

[Mike]

The recession won't, though. It's going down.

[Ben]

No recession is going to hit the fan and just.

[Ryan]

Just explode.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Ryan]

And then, as they do, the Vikings are going to the Super Bowl.

[Ben]

Stupid. Anyway. No, I think I. I think it's gonna get way worse.

[Mike]

Really?

[CJ]

I think.

[Mike]

How much worse can it get? It's already pretty damn bad.

[Ben]

Is it?

[Mike]

I think it is. If Ken was in here, he'd know all the, like, actual terms. He'd be like, oh, this is the worst thing. They're just not talking about it type of thing.

[Ben]

I think it's gonna get way worse.

[CJ]

And they're Definitely not talking about it.

[Ben]

Doesn't seem that bad.

[Ryan]

That's chaos. Yet I don't think it's weird because.

[CJ]

I think all the. I guess.

[Mike]

I mean, what do you expect it to.

[CJ]

It seems like the chaos lately has gone kind of down, but the recession has gone stronger. The inflation's got stronger, interest rates are.

[Ben]

Going up like crazy. Like, I just bought a rental condo and had, like, 6.7% on the interest, which is super high.

[CJ]

Yeah, I was gonna say the last.

[Ryan]

One was what, like three?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Pretty high.

[Mike]

Double what?

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah, Ken.

[Ryan]

He just walked in in a short answer. Are we in a recession and is it bad? Yes. Is it really bad or is it only moderately bad?

[Ben]

It's bad right now. Is it gonna get worse? Ken says, who knows?

[Ryan]

Should we panic? I've been buying the dip. 30 grand to go.

[CJ]

Chen walks in and says, yes, we're in a recession. Yes, it's bad. Ryan says, what should we do? Ken goes, buy the dip.

[Ryan]

Dude, I have so much queso and salsa and, oh, guacamole.

[Ben]

So are you still buying crypto, right?

[Ryan]

Chicken dip? No, the last bit that I bought, it was on, like, the 4th of July or something like that. 3rd of July, I bought Ethereum at, like, 9:15.

[Mike]

Oh, that doesn't seem dumb.

[Ryan]

Great buy.

[CJ]

Yeah, it doesn't seem dumb.

[Ben]

I mean, so you've had some wins in there too.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but the coin that I bought previous before that was Ethereum at 4,000, so.

[Ben]

Oh, okay. You just got to hold on.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Just ride it out. Yeah. Ride the wave.

[Ben]

Recessions are where, like, the majority of.

[Ryan]

The wealth is created. Are recessions a scam created by rich people to make people more rich?

[CJ]

Maybe.

[Ben]

Sure.

[CJ]

Recessions are where a majority of the wealthy people excel.

[Mike]

That's true.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like in the crash 2008, a bunch of people got rich. A bunch of people lost everything, and.

[Ryan]

A bunch of people lost everything.

[Mike]

If someone's making money, someone's losing it.

[Ryan]

Speaking of which, so who's making all the money with your guys's pull tab or pull tabs?

[Ben]

It's a charity donation. I started saving the losing tabs and giving them to the accountant to write them off the charitable donations.

[CJ]

You already filled up six totes.

[Ben]

Taxes are going to be low this year. Long. Long with my bank account.

[Ryan]

My buddy Kenny doesn't even pay him.

[Ben]

Oh, you avoid him.

[Ryan]

Ken's giving us a look like, stop talking about who's the one C boy who forgot to pay their taxes one year.

[Mike]

Maybe he doesn't know yet, dude.

[CJ]

So this is so funny, you guys. So I don't know why all my. All the tax documents go to my mom's. I just need to change the address, but they go there. So she gets them to me when I see her, and she hands me a letter. She just got married last weekend, too. It's kind of crazy, but she hands me this letter as we're at the groom's dinner and was like, ah, hey, I've been meaning to give this to you. Guess what it was.

[Ben]

What?

[CJ]

She's like, it's from the irs. I'm like, that's never fun. You know, it's the way she was coming off, and I was like. She's like, so I think they're auditing you.

[Mike]

No.

[Ryan]

No way.

[CJ]

Yes way.

[Mike]

They're auditing you.

[CJ]

Yeah. Fuck no. But I mean, it's. It like, there's nothing to wor. They're not gonna audit you guys. They're auditing me for. Because that was before, remember? That was when I had my own tax guy. And it specifically. It doesn't even. Just says specifically for, like, on your 1040 from 2020, line 11. Like, I haven't even gotten a chance to look that up yet, but. Because she just gave it to me, but that I'm being audited. And what that really is is, like, you send.

[Ben]

Yeah, I don't know.

[CJ]

I'm like, it's so crazy that they. Again, you know how they know everything. Like if you're paying enough or not, not enough or whatever. And they know everything. But then they're like, hey, yeah, you up? So, like, you know, figure whatever out you messed up and then let us know and we'll let you know if it's.

[Ryan]

And we'll see you in jail.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So what year Was that?

[CJ]

So 2020. So it was like. So that was before we had Doing our taxes. And I don't know. I haven't gotten a chance to look at what line 11 is yet, but.

[Ryan]

What the.

[Ben]

Damn, Mike. That was such a cool delivery. And it was a cucumber. So then. Are you bugging?

[Ryan]

Ken is sweating in his boots right now. He's the one who hasn't been paying at all.

[Ben]

Ken is like, oh, shit. No, you can do that.

[CJ]

Am I like, cons? It's not like this in the back of my head at all times, but when I think about it, like, right now, I'm getting like, red. And I'm like, I do have to, like, figure that out. That's the worst part. You have. You Call them. They don't answer. Like, I mean, straight up. I'm not making that up. You call them again, they don't answer, or you sit on hold or whatever. It's like, well, I guess they didn't hire 87,000 new IRS agents and they got you. Yeah. Hopefully we can get this figured out quick.

[Ryan]

I think all of us.

[Ben]

Dude, what are they doing with 87,000 new IRS agents?

[Mike]

Boston people.

[CJ]

I don't know.

[Mike]

Left and right.

[CJ]

Dude, I. I just had like a flash in my head. The title of the podcast. Yep. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Like 2.1 million dollar fine for the track. But I guess, I mean, if Mike is going to jail with Ken.

[CJ]

And then it was so. There was like a small part of me that was like, damn, I'm getting audited. Pretty crazy. I mean, I'm talking like 1%, but.

[Ben]

Wow, Mike, that is. That is slightly worrying.

[Ryan]

Well, I'm gonna go.

[Mike]

Is there any way we can get his name off the business?

[Ben]

Just kidding. Yeah, it's like. Like CJ being on the insurance.

[Mike]

Driving.

[CJ]

I think if it definitely became the.

[Ben]

Same as Mike being on the company. Company for paying taxes.

[CJ]

Mike, all you gotta. You gotta pay your taxes, man.

[Ben]

CJ's been getting after me, like, in like a pretty mad tone. Oh, for not driving fast enough.

[Mike]

No, he just drives so slow.

[Ben]

I go 5 mph over the speed limit and that is not enough for him.

[Mike]

We went. We were in his Lamborghini. We left Heydays before all of you guys, and we somehow ended up showing up last. You guys were in trucks, Large trailers.

[Ryan]

I was driving a 40 foot RV, pulling a trailer.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

How the frick did we. We stopped at Taco Bell.

[Ben]

Yeah. Maybe they go faster than me. I don't. I go five people. I got five miles per hour. Slowly.

[Mike]

Was driving. I was just like, we're in a Lamborghini right now and you can't drive.

[Ben]

At least a little faster.

[Mike]

Like, there's certain spots where you can go fast.

[Ben]

What is a little faster going to do?

[Mike]

You shouldn't go fast.

[Ben]

What's a little faster going to do? Get us home five minutes before, like.

[Mike]

Great time with these guys.

[Ryan]

Don't speed. Run red lights. I didn't stop once, dude. What were they gonna do?

[Mike]

I'm not saying driving wrong. It's just like, I couldn't believe.

[Ben]

Pretty mad about it.

[Mike]

I couldn't believe how slow he was driving. It was like, to the books. I'm like, you're in a Lambo right now. We can't.

[Ben]

5 miles per hour over the speed limit.

[Mike]

So you're like. You're going 60 and a 55.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You're not gonna get.

[Mike]

Everyone's going 16 to 55. I'm ready. And you need to go fast. Fast. I'm just saying, like, there were certain spots where it was like, okay, we could maybe go a little faster. Like, we don't need to putz here.

[CJ]

But did I just experience.

[Ben]

I just. Okay, but you do. Do you realize what would happen if I were to get a speeding ticket with a Lamborghini on my insurance at 23 years old?

[Mike]

And I think you're being surprised. I feel like it wouldn't really be that bad.

[CJ]

I don't think it'd be that.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think you think it's like. I think you think it's, like, such a bad consequence that you drive so careful.

[Ben]

What's your guys' monthly, like, car payment for insurance?

[Mike]

So depends on what vehicle for your GTR. 125 bucks.

[Ben]

Mine. Mine is 450 without a single speeding ticket.

[Mike]

Probably because you're driving a house on the road.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. So exactly. Imagine how much worse it could be. I don't, honestly.

[Ryan]

Mine's 410. I drive a Camaro.

[Mike]

You guys act like I'm a hassle to insurance.

[CJ]

I'm assuming the Cabriolet.

[Ben]

Well, you are. You are terrible. You have, like, the worst driving record of anyone is cheapest insurance.

[Ryan]

That is pretty good. Good for you.

[CJ]

I don't know, dude.

[Ryan]

I have, like, see if I have any discounts. I don't know.

[CJ]

I got him pulled.

[Ben]

He's got, like, four speeding tickets in the last year.

[Mike]

125 for the GTR. I think it's like 115 for the Evo, which is even crazier. The Mitsubishi Evo is, like, a quarter of the value of the GTR, and it's.

[CJ]

I'm surprised.

[Mike]

Literally $10 cheaper.

[CJ]

So cheap.

[Mike]

And then my Raptor is. I don't even know what the month.

[CJ]

Month.

[Mike]

Month to month comes out, too, but It's. It's like 700 bucks a year, so even less than that. So, I mean, I was just like, it is really cheap, dude.

[CJ]

The other day, C.J. said to me. I don't. Maybe it was. I don't know why you guys were. You're talking about, basically this. C.J. goes. All I'm saying is, like, if you drive 55 and a 55, like, I can't hang with you, man.

[Mike]

I'm not driving with you.

[CJ]

I'm not. I'm not about that, bro.

[Ben]

I feel like everything else we do is pretty risky. So I'm not gonna just, just drive like we were getting passed by everyone.

[Mike]

And then we got passed by our buddies in a motor home pulling a trailer and that left after us.

[Ben]

And I was like, they didn't. No, they didn't.

[Ryan]

Physically, no at all.

[Ben]

We got home before. We got home before you.

[CJ]

I would just chalk it up if I were you guys and just say, I don't want a ticket. And I think the way you drive is not going to get you a ticket. Wonderful. But other than that, I mean, like.

[Ryan]

This is the thing though, is I, I haven't gotten a ticket in quite a while. And I agree in the five over rule, there's times maybe coming into a neighborhood, maybe even bump it a little bit less than five over. You know, might be Jenny walking her dog down the street in the middle of the fucking county highway. I have beef over that, but okay.

[CJ]

Or.

[Ryan]

And there's times you get the downhill on the interstate. You can see for the next eight miles you go, all right, maybe we'll bump it up, up to nine over and you just.

[CJ]

20 over.

[Ryan]

Well, no, that's, that's even a lot, I'd say. And then you just, you just get a little bit up. But it's, it's the like constant under, under five over or under the speed limit that really can irritate when you're in a hurry. It's just like, are we not trying? I got mad at Slim, Evan's buddy Slim, because he was driving like under the speed limit. And I was like, slim, let's go. We got got 18 hours. He was like, I don't want to get a ticket.

[Mike]

Got places to go.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I got to do.

[Mike]

There's no one out there.

[Ryan]

The road.

[Mike]

There's not no one. You can see you've got nothing to worry about.

[Ryan]

I think, I think there's logic behind both.

[CJ]

Yeah. And I'm pretty neutral. I like to speed.

[Mike]

I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong. I just couldn't believe it that we were driving so slow in a Lamborghini. I hopped in the Lamborghini because I was like, we're getting home quick. I'm trying to get out of here.

[Ben]

Well, now you learned your lesson to never ride with me. Yep.

[Ryan]

And that's why you should never ride with Ben.

[CJ]

Even if he's driving a supercar.

[Ben]

You're gonna be, you're gonna disappointed. You're gonna get there around two to three minutes slower but you're gonna be safe the whole time.

[Ryan]

And he won't let you eat chicken wings.

[Ben]

That's the other thing. Mike hops in my car with chicken wings, bone in chicken wings, sauce all over the place, and I just go, hey, can you maybe not eat chicken wings in my car? And apparently, that was just the biggest deal. No, I mean, you're pretty salty about it.

[CJ]

No, I cannot. That was my first time ever bringing it up, but I couldn't believe you.

[Mike]

Would even think of asking that, dude.

[CJ]

It was so funny.

[Mike]

Bone in wings.

[CJ]

It was like, a social.

[Ben]

That's, like, the messiest thing you could eat on a plate, too. So they were just sliding all over the place.

[Ryan]

I was the victory.

[Mike]

Like, your hands are going to be all sticky and saucy. You're going to have to touch the door handle or something.

[CJ]

I wouldn't have touched the door handle.

[Mike]

How are you planning on getting out, bro?

[CJ]

Wipe them all over myself before I touch the door handle, bro.

[Mike]

Still not, like, clean.

[CJ]

I want they. I had some leftover wings, and, like, you know, everything's running gun around here, so I just cooked them especially for.

[Ryan]

You because you're a couple steps behind most of the time.

[CJ]

Yep. And so, I mean, it was just Ben and I here, and he's like, all right, we got to go to Fargo. And I just cooked these. I hadn't eaten yet, and I tossed maybe two in. And then I was like, maybe he'll let me eat them in there if. But he didn't even let me explain it. But I was like, if I explain myself. And I'm like, hey, listen, I'll be really careful.

[Ben]

I'm hungry.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah. If I said it was like, dude, off, I'm hungry. But I went in there, and you're just like, like, I'm. Nah, dude. And then I'm like, but, okay, so if I, like, you know, I brought the paper towel. Get food later, and then that was it. Like, that was it.

[Ryan]

That's tough, too, because it's like, really? Even if you did spill little water, clean it right up.

[CJ]

Oh, and that's.

[Ryan]

But it's also not my very expensive car.

[CJ]

No, if I spilled, I would have, like. Yeah, I'd have been like, dude, why'd you let me. Yeah, whatever.

[Ryan]

Why'd you let me do that? That's for you to send Mike.

[CJ]

No, I would not.

[Ryan]

But Micah spills. Seriously, Ben, why did you let me do that? You were supposed to protect me from.

[CJ]

This situation, dude, that you. Oh, you got to put. Push this Picture up on the podcast because I think you guys would enjoy it because it's so cringy. But the. The. Well, I just put on my story, but basically the me and, like, the monster shirt and the monster hat and, like, the monster skateboard and, like, green pants. Posing with the skateboard, like, and then I captioned it, like, why didn't anyone stop me?

[Ryan]

So I think about my transitions.

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I just looked.

[Mike]

You were on, like, the badass side and you were kind of on the.

[CJ]

Nerdy side, but still, we both should have been stopped. Someone needed to intervene.

[Mike]

You guys were on the extremes of both. Yeah, I shouldn't say badass. I should say punk.

[CJ]

Yeah. Or whatever. But it's like just typical skater kid.

[Mike]

And you could have been like a Tumblr boy with that.

[CJ]

Yeah. Or a Tumblr. And I was like, I almost, like, look like I know what I'm doing. If people knew how bad I skated.

[Mike]

They'D be like, that'd be the worst part. You carrying around that skateboard.

[CJ]

Can't even skate.

[Mike]

You're a pretty good skater now, though.

[CJ]

No, that's what. Yeah, I was okay, but not good.

[Mike]

Enough to be dressed in that.

[CJ]

Not good enough to be wearing monster.

[Ben]

I always think about high school Mike, and I resort to picturing him wearing, like, purple skinny jeans. I mean, did you have purple skinny jeans?

[CJ]

Yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if we can find it. Yeah. I would wear, like, a white flannel and purple skinny jeans and, like, a rogue status shirt. Probably skate to school from, like, my car.

[Mike]

Okay. I was gonna say, you just pushing down a gravel road.

[CJ]

Yeah, dude, I skated to school. It was either drive my tractor or skate to school.

[Ryan]

How many times you drive your tractor?

[CJ]

I drove it once for drive your tractor to school day.

[Ryan]

Day.

[Ben]

Was that actually a day?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Really?

[CJ]

Drive your tractor to school day.

[Ben]

How many people would pull up for FFA week?

[CJ]

Dude, 20, 25, let's say.

[Mike]

Did anyone drive their lawnmower?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Oh, people in town would drive their lawnmower.

[Ben]

What about like a full on combine?

[CJ]

No one ever did that.

[Ryan]

Can you drive your combine to bring a tractor to school day? Because that'd be cool.

[CJ]

I think you could.

[Ben]

Should bring.

[Mike]

Should have brought like a fertilizer, one of those things that sprays. Then you could have had people driving underneath it. That'd be a sweet video shot. Just like driving.

[Ryan]

We do need to do that.

[Mike]

We go under it.

[CJ]

Big tractor meetup. I've been meaning so long for my grandpa Gave me, like, a really old John Deere tractor. I've been meaning so long to get it in a video and just do something dumb with it. Not, like, ruin it or anything.

[Mike]

Just a collectible, like.

[CJ]

Yeah, not definitely not ruin it, but, you know, very. Have, like, a tug off with, like, sentimental.

[Mike]

Sentimental.

[CJ]

Not ruin it.

[Ben]

I know. Let's whistle. Sentimental, sentimental. Dude, I've been messing up words, and the first person that corrects me usually is Ryan.

[Ryan]

I didn't say anything there.

[Ben]

I know, but you want it.

[Ryan]

I did. I wanted to.

[Ben]

And then Ken will follow it up very quickly, and then Mike will just be the cherry on top.

[Ryan]

Dude, honestly, I think that's good for you. If you were.

[CJ]

That's fun, you know?

[Ben]

No, I know. It's like, someone's got to. It makes me feel better because you guys do the exact same thing to cj, too.

[CJ]

I mean. Yeah, basically, like, if anyone messes up a word. Yeah, the. The normal thing to do is, like.

[Ryan]

I think that's what a good friend would do, though. Maybe our delivery isn't always the best.

[Mike]

I just don't like it when we're, like, in something very serious trying to, like, get something done and you have to make a big deal about one of us saying a word wrong. Like, if it's pronounced slightly wrong, you're like.

[CJ]

Like, it's pretty juvenile.

[Mike]

It's just like, bro. Like, let's just carry on. We got some to do here, and.

[CJ]

We'Re over here critiquing how you talk.

[Ben]

Yeah, you're right.

[CJ]

It is. It's pretty juvenile.

[Mike]

I was trying to. Trying to spell acknowledge.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Just this morning, and I was just about. I was just in a rush, and I was just gonna. I knew it was spelled wrong. I was just about to send him. I was like, I just don't want to give Ryan any ammo.

[Ryan]

No, I.

[Mike]

So I literally chat anymore. I literally looked up on Google. I literally looked up. I just like, oh, right. Of course. That's how you spell acknowledge. And I went and corrected it. So if you scroll back to my earliest message, I think I texted, like, 701. I was like, none of these people are even acknowledging me. Someone else has to text them. And I had to double check that word. And I. I did think of you.

[Ryan]

More, so that is unfortunate. I wish you didn't think of such a negative way, but, like, I. I.

[Mike]

Don'T think it's embarrassing.

[Ryan]

Like, if one day you're doing the Today show after we've done something good, and you're up there, and you're like.

[Ben]

Oh, we would 100. 100. If it was me or CJ, we would 100 try and say something that's, like, a little bit smart.

[Mike]

I wouldn't even try to say something smart. I just don't know unless I really know what I'm talking about. But, yeah, I mean, no, in the. On the bright side, now I know how to spell acknowledge, which I think I already did know. It just kind of slipped my mind.

[Ben]

Did.

[Ryan]

There's some words that I was in a rush.

[Mike]

I wasn't thinking in a negative way. I just was like, I just want to, like, get my point across and keep it going. I don't want to have to, like, go on this whole thing about how I don't know how to spell acknowledge.

[Ryan]

I don't. Yeah, I don't think we do in the group chat anymore. We used to. I know.

[CJ]

Unless it's absurd, which, you know, happens sometimes. I can't control myself if it's just absurdly.

[Ryan]

Spell absurd wrong.

[CJ]

A, B, S, U, R, D. Nice. But acknowledge is a good, like, example. Let's just say this is how we handle, like, absolute dicks. So Ryan or CJ says, like, acknowledge or something, and then in a conversation, they're just talking. They're talking. It could even be a serious situation. And then Ben and I would look at each other and go, acknowledge. And we would just, like, say it back to each other. And then, yeah, we're just getting bullies.

[Mike]

We could be in, like, the most time crunch situation, though, where it's like, someone could be fucking hanging off a cliff. I'm like, help. Save him. And you guys be like, he said this word.

[Ben]

He said him.

[Mike]

You know, like, save him. Ken's hanging off a cliff.

[Ben]

At least we're keeping things light around here. I just royally messed up a word today. I can't think of what it was. It was bad, though.

[Mike]

It was so bad, I can't remember.

[Ben]

I think CJ might have even checked in on that one.

[Mike]

I didn't say.

[CJ]

I'll try to write down tomorrow's up. Okay.

[Ben]

All right.

[Ryan]

It.

[Ben]

Should we wrap.

[Ryan]

Yeah, we can wrap it up.

[CJ]

Beautiful time, boys. That was fun.

[Ryan]

Feels good to be back on here. Yes, I'm with the boys.

[CJ]

Yeah, it was. Thanks for listening and watching. We'll be back next week and the week after that.

[Ryan]

And if you get to 150k, we're gonna have Evan on, and he's gonna speak.

[Ben]

Yeah, he did a great job on the last podcast. He said three things he did.

[Ryan]

And you know what? My the first podcast that we ever did, I didn't talk either. I know the feeling. The less you talk, the harder it gets to say a word. I feel for him. He did a great job. He's a good kid. 150k. He'll speak.

[Mike]

Ending out beautiful.