Grandpa Ron on Getting Arrested, How YOU Helped Him Beat Cancer, & His New Outlook on Life

Summary

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Episode Title: Grandpa Ron on Getting Arrested, How YOU Helped Him Beat Cancer, & His New Outlook on Life
Release Date: November 12, 2024

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Overview

This episode is a heartfelt, hilarious, and genuinely insightful conversation with Grandpa Ron—a beloved figure to both the CboysTV crew and their fans. Having recently beaten cancer, Grandpa Ron shares how positivity, support, and a little bit of wild living have shaped his journey. The crew reminisce on family stories, share business and dating advice, swap tales of golf cart shenanigans (and getting arrested), and delve into intergenerational perspectives on life, adversity, and today’s divided world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Beating Cancer: The Power of Attitude and Community

• Grandpa Ron’s Cancer Journey

  • Grandpa Ron recounts his fight with cancer, crediting his positive outlook and massive outpouring of support as keys to his recovery.
  • “Oh, 95%.” (Attitude’s importance) (02:47, Grandpa Ron)
  • He shares how hearing from people all over the world and reading comments uplifted him on tough days.
  • Uplifting story: At a recent event, a woman told him that his videos turned her grandmother’s depression around during cancer treatment. (02:16)
  • He never entered deep depression because of the encouragement and well-wishes he received.

• The Crew’s Role & Community Support

  • The Sea Boys’ antics and family vibe kept him young and motivated.
  • CJ and Ben reflect on how many others have been touched by Grandpa Ron’s journey and legacy.

Notable Quote:

“I would have days when maybe I wasn't feeling that great, and then I would start reading some of the stuff you guys do and some comments coming back and I thought, what the hell am I doing feeling down? These guys are great.”
— Grandpa Ron (02:50)

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2. Why Positivity is Contagious

• Grandpa Ron and the crew stress how a good attitude isn’t just “pretending”—it genuinely shapes the outcome, whether fighting cancer or just playing golf.

  • Ken: “Having a good attitude going into it is going to make you just much more susceptible to learn and just, you know, evolve, be better and all that, but especially obviously with stuff like what Grandpa was going through.” (07:04)

• Everyone shares funny stories on how Grandpa Ron’s fun-loving energy keeps everyone going, making him “America’s Grandpa.”

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3. Old-School Antics: Getting Arrested, Golf Carts, and High-Speed Stories

• Grandpa Ron is a legend for his wild, rule-bending youth—from speeding tickets (sometimes several in a single week) to creative approaches with the law.

  • “Well, I got three tickets. Reading tickets. In one week, one time. What, two were by the same cop. Right. And to fight them. And I got...Well, I had an attorney...” (19:43, Grandpa Ron)

• Family Stories & Humor

  • Reminiscences include:
    • Making vodka screwdrivers as a “household staple.”
    • Losing his license but talking his way out of worse trouble.
    • Crashing a golf cart in a cop's yard and narrowly escaping detection. (22:13)
    • Dealing with golf cart mishaps and other “questionable influence” moments.

• Legendary Golf Outings

  • The crew’s infamous golf games: more drinking than golfing, uncalculated gambling, and wild stories at the country club.
  • Grandpa Ron’s view: “We don't drink that many fireballs every day. I'll guarantee you that. The only time was when Gina and you and I...My, my daughter and, and my wife played and...and eagle. Yeah. Yeah. And you never had fireballs before, right? No, I hadn't.” (11:09–11:20)

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4. Relationship Advice—Grandpa Ron Style

• Grandpa Ron’s tips for Ken, Gavin, and other singles:
  • “If you're not around them and you miss them, you miss you haven’t doing something with them, I mean, that's a good start.” (30:48)
  • Spotting “crazy” early: Shared stories from marriages past, including marrying his first wife twice and marrying a clinical psychologist (“I became a patient”). (31:35–32:18)
  • If the feeling isn’t mutual, “probably find a different girl.” (31:29)

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5. Family, Childhood, and Passing Down Life Lessons

• Grandpa Ron reminisces about life on the farm, learning to break horses, sibling roughhousing (“I got hit...right through the window”), and never letting his mother hear him swear until he was about 15.
• The boys credit their humor (and some wild driving) to Grandpa’s influence.
• Wise reflections:
  • “Think about all the good things in people, and I kind of found that out again...getting back to all those comments we had about when I had cancer and prayers for Grandpa. Christ, I counted 3,500 of them on that one.” (68:13)

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6. Generational Perspectives: Society, Politics, and Division

• The conversation turns to the state of the country, increasing division, and how the world has changed.

  • Grandpa Ron laments how things used to be more accepting and less polarized:

  “Never...the parties...let's use Democrats for example. Let's take the John F. Kennedy 1960s...completely different party.”
  (48:36, Grandpa Ron)

  • CJ asks if elections used to be less contentious and if candidates would “just accept it and move on.” Grandpa largely agrees.
  • Grandpa Ron and the crew discuss social and political issues—including the impact of leaders on daily life and the increasing inability to “just disagree without hate.”

• On Handling Differences:

  • “If you don't like them, ignore them. But the people that you're out enjoy it.” (69:05, Grandpa Ron)
  • “Hate is a bad thing. What the hell? People are people, and you gotta live with it.” (69:05, Grandpa Ron)

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7. Final Reflections: Life After Cancer & What Matters Most

• Grandpa Ron shares his evolved outlook—less afraid of death, greater empathy, more focus on enjoying “what I see and what I like.”
  • “Your attitude, it's just kind of different. I mean, I love to see you guys succeed. I mean, that's very important to me. I love to watch that...if I don't like it, just forget it, I'm not gonna argue about it.” (66:53–67:59)
  • Community, family, fun, and legacy all rise in importance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Attitude Fighting Cancer:
  “Oh, 95%. I think so. I would have days when I wasn’t feeling that great, and then I’d start reading some of the stuff you guys do and some comments coming back and I thought, what the hell am I doing feeling down? These guys are great.” (02:47, Grandpa Ron)
• On Enjoying Life:
  “How long am I going to be around, so I better enjoy what I see.” (00:11, Grandpa Ron; repeated in closing thoughts)
• On Luck and Second Chances:
  “So the bottom line is good to have friends in high places.” (27:27, Grandpa Ron)
• On Handling Division:
  “But the people that you’re out enjoy it…hate is a bad thing. What the hell? People are people, and you gotta live with it.” (69:05, Grandpa Ron)
• On Letting Go:
  “If you don’t like them, ignore them. But the people that you’re out enjoy it.” (69:05, Grandpa Ron)
• On Love Advice:
  “If you’re not around them and you miss them, that’s a good start.” (30:48, Grandpa Ron)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:08 – Grandpa Ron on enjoying life post-cancer, beer vs. soda
• 01:08 – First time going weeks without alcohol during cancer
• 02:13 – Story of inspiring another cancer patient, thanks to CboysTV videos
• 02:47 – Attitude’s impact on cancer recovery (“95%”)
• 03:58 – Doctors’ advice and Grandpa Ron’s remarkably smooth recovery
• 05:22 – Keeping young and active, impact of family
• 11:53 – Legendary golf stories, screwdrivers in the fridge
• 17:36 – Wild child stories, getting in trouble as kids
• 19:43 – The ticket saga, getting out of speeding tickets in the 1970s
• 22:13 – Golf cart wrecks, getting away with (almost) everything
• 31:00 – Grandpa Ron’s relationship and marriage advice
• 48:36 – Reflections on political division and change over generations
• 66:53 – New outlook after beating cancer, appreciating relationships and positivity
• 69:05 – Final thoughts on embracing life and positivity

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Tone & Style

The episode is warm, irreverent, filled with laughter and life lessons, as Grandpa Ron’s storytelling, quick wit, and wisdom take center stage. The CboysTV approach is light-hearted and genuine—encouraging wild stories but always circling back to gratitude, community, and encouragement.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t tuned in before, this is one of the most heartfelt and unfiltered episodes in the Life Wide Open series. You’ll come away with a smile, some legendary Grandpa tales, and maybe a little extra motivation to face your own struggles with humor and hope.

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Grandpa Ron leaves you with this reminder:

“I better enjoy what I see...Just the attitude is that—it’s just kind of different...if I don't like it, just forget it, I'm not gonna argue about it...think about all the good things in people.” (66:53–68:13)

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Transcript

[Ken]

Ken, do you have any control?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, yeah.

[Ken]

It doesn't seem that way.

[Grandpa Ron]

If you keep scoring, don't win. It's your fault, that's what it is.

[CJ]

Who do you think was a worst kid growing up, me or cj?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, man. I hit this tree. I had all four wheels. Just how long am I going to be around, so I better enjoy what I see.

[Evan]

We just got sent some of these.

[Grandpa Ron]

You probably drink anything.

[Evan]

Exactly.

[Ben]

They're not bad. They're not good, though.

[Evan]

No, but, like, could you see yourself on the boat drinking six of these?

[Ben]

It's actually got a lot more flavor than I wanted.

[Evan]

Kind of a one and done road beer.

[Grandpa Ron]

I could see Ryan drinking six of.

[Ben]

Those on the boat, but why have six of those? And you can have 12 of these.

[Grandpa Ron]

You know, that's true. You. You got a good point there.

[Evan]

Nicest party cup in the game right there.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. You don't drink anything.

[Ken]

I haven't drank since August 31st.

[Grandpa Ron]

You're better off.

[Ken]

I haven't had caffeine either since September 1st.

[Ben]

What was harder to get rid of?

[Ken]

Caffeine.

[Ben]

How long till we get you off those nuts?

[Ken]

Sorry. Only a handful.

[CJ]

Grandpa, what's the longest that you went without drinking beer or alcohol?

[Grandpa Ron]

Just recently. I mean, since I had the cancer thing. Other than that, maybe a day. Two. But when I. When I did the cancer, I didn't have any alcohol for, oh, three or four weeks, I found out was kind.

[Ken]

Of three or four weeks.

[Evan]

That's got to be horrific.

[Grandpa Ron]

Wow.

[CJ]

For a second I thought that you were gonna say a couple months.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, no.

[CJ]

Well, you were speaking. I was like, no, I saw him every couple weeks. And every single time I'd see you, you'd be like, let's get a drink.

[Grandpa Ron]

I'm always. You know beer is better for you than pop, right?

[CJ]

Yeah. I grew up.

[Grandpa Ron]

Soda is not good for you. So it's either water, beer or vodka, wine, whatever. Beer is easy, so. Well, thank you.

[Gavin]

There you go.

[Grandpa Ron]

There's your beer.

[Ben]

We can celebrate again. You guys didn't hear Grandpa Ron kick cancer's ass? Buddy, let's go.

[Grandpa Ron]

That was really great. That was really great. And we did that happen. And you guys were there. That was wonderful. I was telling C.J. down here, I went to a deal with Jake a couple weeks ago.

[Ken]

My. My brother. So is okay.

[Grandpa Ron]

And with a pickup rally with what they do. And this gal walks up to me, she says, grandpa around this? Yeah. She says, my grandma has cancer. She's the same age as you. 81. Same time. And she was so depressed. And I finally, I got a. Told her, I took her and showed her the videos that you did with the Sea Boys and what you felt like, just like that, she turned around and doing better. And it was the best thing I heard in a long time. I mean, to hear that.

[CJ]

How much do you think attitude plays a factor in it?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, 95%.

[CJ]

Really?

[Grandpa Ron]

I think so. I mean, you know, I would have days when maybe I wasn't feeling that great, and then I would start reading some of stuff you guys do and some comments coming back and I thought, what the hell am I doing feeling down? These guys are great. I mean, people all over the world, we wishing me well. Why the hell do I want to be down when they're thinking about me? And so that attitude just like that would snap me out of it. So I never really got into deep depression, but a lot of people do.

[Ben]

I mean. No kidding.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. I mean, you read a lot of the comments we got back. People would say, my grandfather or their mother or their whatever got depressed end up dying. So.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

And I guess I didn't realize that you guys maybe knew more about it than I did. After you heard that stage four was pretty bad.

[CJ]

Well, yours was really bad.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. And I didn't really think it's so bad. I don't know, I mean, it didn't feel that great and I got out of it. I guess I feel pretty damn good now. Like I'm having a beer. Played a lot of golf this year, did some work. So it's a lot of attitude in anything though. You know, the attitude.

[CJ]

Do they tell you that when you're like going into your first treatments, are they like, you know, keep a positive attitude or when it's like stage four like that, when it's so bad, is it, is it hard for the doctors to even like, give, you know, give you any hope?

[Grandpa Ron]

The doctor I had when he looked at, said, you know what it was? He said, well, I, I can take care of this. We'll give you a few more years to live, five, 10, whatever, if you do what I say. Hell yeah, I'll do what you say. But when you go into the get your infusions and a lot of the people will such a knobby. This might hurt. You're not, you may not feel well after you've had the shots. Why are you telling me this? You know, just give me some stuff in case it does. It does hurt. And they did, but I never used it. But they warn you about the after effects Which I never had any.

[CJ]

Really.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Fortunately I was really lucky on that. I still got the pills they gave me and covered at home pain pills. And you see, after those infusions I had, sometimes you feel nausea and dizzy. It never happened to me. But you guys are always around, keep me sparked up.

[Ben]

You had to stay young with us dragging you all around.

[Grandpa Ron]

I do, yeah. I'm serious and I talk about that all the time, actually. I got grandkids and sea boys. Of course. Keep me young. I mean, something to do. What the hell? If you don't have that, you know, it's. But your, your attitude, like you said, Ben, is I'd say 95%.

[Ben]

Wow.

[Grandpa Ron]

I mean, you can be sick and you're sick. I guess. Well, what hell are you going to do about it, right? I mean, your attitude, it's not going to make any difference. If you have cancer, you have it.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

You know, so let's, let's do what we can do with it. I had a occasion where a friend of mine, I played golf with his sister in law had cancer and he saw the deal we did on WDY and he was. Tried to tell her about that and she won't listen. And she's got probably another month to live.

[CJ]

What do you mean won't listen?

[Grandpa Ron]

She won't do anything. She just. Well, give you an example. He told me one night he gets up and she's living with him now and his wife and she got up and made her had a waffle or toast or something and spilled syrup all over the floor. Right. So next morning he comes down and she's capable of getting around. He comes down the next morning and step in this syrup and what the hell is this? And she said, well, I spilled syrup last night. Well, why didn't you clean up? Well, I'm sick and I want to die. That's the kind of attitude she has. So. And that's not going to cut it.

[Ben]

Yeah. You know, I think being buddies with these two guys and your whole family honestly has really opened my eyes to how much like attitude manifesting, like, you know, whatever you want to call it, but what you look for, how much you head that direction as opposed to looking towards the bad. You head towards the bad. And I mean in many things it's not like a good attitude can just pull you out of it in, in things like cancer and sickness and stuff like that. But thankfully with good treatment and the.

[CJ]

Right attitude, you did.

[Ben]

And we're out playing golf and, and doing fun things.

[Grandpa Ron]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Ken]

Yeah. I Think just even it goes to tie with, like, anything, like having a good attitude. No matter what you're trying to accomplish or do in life, it will do better. I'm not saying it's going to solve all your problems, but, like, let's just say trying to do good in a sport, like having a good attitude going into it is going to make you just much more susceptible to learn and just, you know, evolve, be better and all that, but especially obviously with stuff like what Grandpa was going through.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, that is. I think attitude is obeyed. You guys all have great attitude. You do crazy stuff, which is great. And people that I talked to, I was telling cj, I went to the football game a couple of weeks ago. Ndsu.

[Ben]

The college game?

[Ken]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah. We were getting tagged in that.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

All the time.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, my.

[CJ]

I saw you were there.

[Ken]

Grandpa can't go anywhere anymore without getting pictures and hassled. Not hassled, but you know.

[Grandpa Ron]

You know what the good thing about that is? Is that people walk up to me and you say, grandpa Ron, how you feeling? I'm so glad you got over your cancer. This is why. I mean, and that's really good to hear from young people. They're concerned that you know what they are about cancer, of course. But you're feeling better and you're America's grandpa. Yeah.

[CJ]

My dad was in Alaska fly fishing on this river up in the middle of nowhere, and there was one other guy or a couple other guys on the river. And like, I think my dad was wearing a Sea Boys hat, and the guy was like, oh, I watch Sea Boys. And my dad was like, oh, Ben's dad. And the first question he asked is, how's Grandpa Ron?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. No way. Yeah.

[Ben]

That's crazy.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. People are so concerned about. I mean, they. And when we did that, ringing the bell and that, the comments. He probably read the comments that came back, but they're all over the world.

[CJ]

I mean, Australia on the video or on wday on the video. So our local news network also picked up Grandparon's story. You were just like the poster or like, cancer awareness. Yeah, I thought that was really cool, too.

[Grandpa Ron]

My idea, when they wanted to do that, I'm. I'm for it. But if we can help somebody get to a better attitude and what the hell, if you got cancer, you got cancer. So let's. Let's live with it and do what we can with it.

[Ben]

They let you back into the country club after you went golfing with us?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, heck, yeah.

[CJ]

Oh, my God. We tore it up. Evan doesn't even remember. He doesn't remember.

[Ken]

Blacked out.

[CJ]

He doesn't.

[Evan]

If it weren't for the clubs I bought, I say I wasn't there.

[Grandpa Ron]

He's convinced.

[CJ]

Evan is convinced that he didn't meet me and CJ's aunt or your. Your daughter.

[Ken]

He thinks we're messing.

[CJ]

He thinks that we're still messing with him.

[Evan]

No, I think I met them. I just don't believe we had dinner at the club.

[Grandpa Ron]

You did. You sat right next to grandma.

[CJ]

That's what's concerning. Oh, yeah, I'm sure we should add grandma. And she remembers vividly.

[Ken]

You were telling some pretty aggressive stories for my grandmother, you know, you're lucky.

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah, she's used to worse. But.

[Grandpa Ron]

But let me tell you what she said. She said she'd watch in the oven Dewey stuff on video, but he's really a nice guy.

[CJ]

Seriously, she must not have been thinking straight.

[Grandpa Ron]

You're a real gentleman. Well, I. And I. What the hell you're talking about? That was Evan. She said, I know.

[CJ]

Well, she has been married to you for 40 years, so, sure.

[Grandpa Ron]

Maybe that wasn't a gentleman, according to me. I don't know about that.

[CJ]

But anyway, that was. That was wild, though. Yeah. We went golfing. It would have been like July at this point, and it was less golfing, more drinking.

[Ben]

Oh, man, we had fun.

[CJ]

It was just like. Yeah. I think, you know, most of crew is so bad at golfing. It was just like, what are we even doing here? And then Ken is. Every time, like, the. The cart would come by, we would just go, Rudy shots.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[CJ]

And before you knew it, we just did, like, 17 little fireball shooters.

[Evan]

You really like Fireball, don't you? That your favorite show?

[Grandpa Ron]

I like it all. What the hell?

[Ken]

That's what golf looks like for him. Every single day. He golfs every day. It's just the same thing.

[Grandpa Ron]

Every.

[Ken]

What do you mean? That was golf.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, we. We don't drink that many fireballs every day. I'll guarantee you that. The only time was when Gina and you and I. My. My daughter and. And my wife played and.

[CJ]

Oh, and she got a. Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

And eagle. Yeah. Yeah. And you never had fireballs before, right? No, I hadn't.

[CJ]

I. I never had. Well, I actually. That was the first time I had ever drank, too.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Anyway, and we said, when you have a birdie, you have to have a fireball shot. And I remember Ben said, what do you mean? If you have a fireball, you Take. You have a shot. Well, we had an eagle and a birdie, so we had two shots. Yeah.

[CJ]

And then they just brought a bottle. Yeah, it was good.

[Grandpa Ron]

That was a good start for us.

[CJ]

Here's. Okay, let me, let me explain this too.

[Grandpa Ron]

When.

[CJ]

When me and C.J. were growing up at Grandpa Ron's, he had a jug in the fridge that was. It looked like orange juice, but it was actually a screwdriver. So orange juice. And, and pre made, Pre made screwdriver. So like you'd come over and you'd be like, oh, hey, hey, yeah, I'm just pouring some orange juice and you're drinking. Be like, that's not orange juice.

[Ben]

Spicy orange juice.

[Evan]

It's so efficient.

[Grandpa Ron]

I have a great story about that. And my brother taught me how to do that, My older brother, when he was 10. Yeah. But anyway, my mom didn't drink and neither did her sister. So my brother, my aunt lived in Milwaukee, so they're gonna. My brother's gonna drive my mom and my aunt take her back to Milwaukee. So they get up early in the morning to get ready to go. Well, they same deal. They don't know the difference between screwdriver and orange juice. Neither one of them drink.

[CJ]

Well, most people in a sane household probably doesn't have that pre mixed in the fridge.

[Grandpa Ron]

My aunt and, and my mom drink and vodka screwdrivers. Don't know it. So they get ready to leave. They get in the car, they fell asleep. They slept all the way from Minneapolis to Milwaukee. Oh, my God.

[CJ]

Who was driving?

[Grandpa Ron]

My brother.

[CJ]

Oh, okay. I didn't know where that was stored.

[Grandpa Ron]

They were in the back seat and they didn't understand why they were so tired.

[CJ]

Feeling loopy.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Oh, my.

[Ben]

That's funny.

[Grandpa Ron]

He taught me how to do that, so. In fact, they taught me a lot of things.

[Ken]

Are you still doing the pre made screwdrivers in your, in your fridge once in a while? Okay.

[Grandpa Ron]

I did it when Ben's sister was living with us too, but I marked it to make sure she didn't get into it.

[CJ]

Yeah, we weren't sure that you were going to be welcome back on the, on the country club after we left.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, no, no, no. In fact, you guys are welcome anytime. Everybody loved it.

[CJ]

Oh, really?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, the waiters and.

[CJ]

Yeah, they loved it.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, they should have. You guys had a hell of a ten half.

[Ben]

It was pretty funny. I have a bunch of buddies that are also members of the country club. I got sent this picture this morning and they go, you guys only golfed once there this Year. But you made the yearly Instagram picture. And here's Evan with his arm around my aunt.

[CJ]

That's my aunt.

[Evan]

I wasn't even there.

[Ben]

It doesn't look like you're there.

[Grandpa Ron]

Photoshop the picture.

[CJ]

Photoshop lights, Watermelon.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, no. You guys are welcome there, you know. Wow. We didn't do it. We had fun, that's all.

[CJ]

Yeah, we did have fun.

[Ben]

We did have fun.

[CJ]

So, yeah, we were playing some, like, bunch of different golf gambling games with like, the rest of Grandpa Ron's buddies. Dude, we sat at this table for probably, I'd say an hour.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Hour to hour to an hour and a half trying to figure out who owed who money. And at the end of it, it was like, Grandpa Ron made $8, his other buddy made three, but he had to pay two of that to another guy. But he was in the whole $8 as well. So he made six. Six. And we were. We walked away like after an hour and a half. Like, you guys did all that for $12?

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I watched Ken threw $20 in. I said, we won.

[CJ]

Yeah, Ken threw $20 in to tell them to just off. He was like, I will pay you guys $20 to stop this.

[Gavin]

Math was just going in circles and did not add up. And I was like, I. I just gotta.

[Ken]

The way it looked like it was adding up was in your favor. You were the one doing the math and you were the one who was like, okay, so you owe me eight dollars, you owe me five. And everyone.

[Grandpa Ron]

What?

[Ken]

You ended up with all the money.

[Grandpa Ron]

I was honest on that. You guys, you guys forgot to collect, that's all.

[CJ]

What's your saying?

[Grandpa Ron]

If you keep scoring, don't win. It's your fault.

[CJ]

That's what it is.

[Ken]

That's true.

[Grandpa Ron]

And that's the same goes for cards. You only play cards, you know.

[Ben]

Oh, that's why you want to come and be our blackjack dealer.

[Grandpa Ron]

I could do that. I deal a lot of blackjack, actually, with. For games to go. They have the casino parties kind of thing. And I did one two weeks ago. So, in fact, his wife was your babysitter. Yeah. He found out. Okay. Anyway, he told me. Then I saw him a week later because I did. A week, two weeks in a row. And they were both of them. And he wanted me to say hello to you from his wife. I forget her name. But anyway. Hello. He watches.

[CJ]

Thanks, gramps.

[Grandpa Ron]

He does watch it. That you were a pretty good kid. Pretty, pretty good. But not the best. Not the best.

[Ben]

That's on par.

[CJ]

Who do you think was a worst kid growing up, me or cj?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, CJ once a while would get had a kind of a. You guys heard this story a thousand times. We were building a house and we would stay at different places while was being built. And when.

[Ken]

How old was I before?

[CJ]

Just a friend.

[Gavin]

How old was I?

[Grandpa Ron]

Sixteen.

[Ken]

I was 2 or 3.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, it'd be 19 or be 2000.

[Ken]

Okay, so I was born in 96. I was 4.

[Grandpa Ron]

All right, okay.

[Ken]

So anyway, okay, they hold this against me. They hold this against me. Like, I'm not kidding you, I can't escape this story.

[Grandpa Ron]

Tell the story. Anyways, we stay at his house, extra bedroom there. And he comes in up door, he's crying and screaming, no, they can't stay here. And he's crying and go jumping up and down and his mom is trying to control him. Now he's four years old, right?

[CJ]

Like old enough to know he's going on.

[Grandpa Ron]

And he's crying and screaming and hitting the floor and doing this. And finally his dad hauled him out, I think threw him in the garage, I don't know. But anyways, I put him in the kennel.

[Ken]

Yeah, but that was, I don't remember that for some reason.

[Grandpa Ron]

But anyway, I, I, who was hardest? I mean, you guys were all pretty good, you know, you always, you know, because I always played with you guys. So we did something, but I don't think anybody was really that hard. I don't know what you. Well, you want to say that you were the best, right?

[CJ]

I mean, I was hoping that you.

[Grandpa Ron]

Were going to say that one thing about Ben. People are worried about him. He never cried.

[CJ]

Oh yeah, true story. They thought that I was deaf.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Really?

[CJ]

Yeah, they got my ears checked twice.

[Grandpa Ron]

He would play on the floor by himself and crawl around. 26 months, 9 months or a year. Never cry. What the hell's wrong with a kid? He's a happy kid. Yeah.

[Ben]

Why are you not crying? Yeah, I can see like everybody's like, oh, he doesn't cry. What's wrong? I can see you Ron being like, I'll give him something to cry about.

[CJ]

I'm running across the floor and he grabs my leg. I just face plant down trying to.

[Grandpa Ron]

Get us to hold. No, no, never cried. Now he whines.

[CJ]

Yeah, whatever.

[Ken]

I think if we picked up anything from you, grandpa, it's our sense of humor and some of our driving actually. Because, because I recall a story with you. Do you ever remember the game when like you'd be riding with Grandpa Ron? Let's Say he was going from their house to our house, my house, or your house. And he'd say, like, I bet you I can make it there without come. Without hitting, like, stopping. Without, like, stopping at a stop sign.

[CJ]

To a red light.

[Ken]

And I remember, like, we'd be, like, cutting through gas stations to go around.

[CJ]

Red light.

[Ken]

Like, we were just, like, hopping curbs, like, zooming around. And I thought it was amazing.

[Grandpa Ron]

Hell, yeah.

[Ken]

And I remember one time, this guy was getting arrested. They had, like, a bunch of cops. It was me, grandma, and grandpa. And he's like, oh, you want to pull over and watch?

[CJ]

So we pulled over into the.

[Ken]

Into the convenience store parking lot. Watch this guy get, like, taken down by the cops. I was like, watching out the windows.

[CJ]

That's Evan's, like, worst nightmare. He'd be afraid that the cops.

[Evan]

He's sick.

[CJ]

He's like, get out of here.

[Ken]

Get out of your grip.

[Grandpa Ron]

What the are you doing?

[Ken]

That's what he'd be saying. Every time he sees a cop, he starts tweaking.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. There was a reason for that, because I thought if C.J. would see that. Don't let that happen to you.

[CJ]

So, yeah, I mean, it definitely.

[Ken]

It helped.

[CJ]

It helped. Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Not much, but such a good influence. Yeah. Yeah. I did the right things.

[Ken]

You?

[Ben]

Lots of speeding tickets.

[Ken]

We had some pretty good stories.

[Grandpa Ron]

Not recently. Okay. I've had a lot years ago.

[CJ]

Well, how many's a lot?

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I got three tickets. Reading tickets. In one week, one time. What, two were by the same cop. Right. And to fight them. And I got.

[Ken]

Of course.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I had an attorney. I got an attorney, and this cop was a small town cop. So the judge attorney made him look so bad because he was trying to judge how fast I was going, and. And he couldn't.

[CJ]

What, they didn't have a radar?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, he did none. That. This is back in 1975. You guys weren't even born.

[CJ]

Oh. So, yeah. How were they giving out speeding tickets?

[Grandpa Ron]

They would just kind of figure that, you know? Like, I remember him saying I was going. I was 100 miles an hour.

[CJ]

And the hell were you driving that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Did 100 miles per hour with a 65 Thunderbird. Okay, so we get to court, and something with the distance and about a quarter mile I was doing this. And so my attorney asked the copple, how many feet in a mile? Well, he didn't know, so how in the hell can you say, I know a quarter a mile if you don't have any feet? A mile is. So Judge threw that one out of Court, thank God.

[Ben]

Dang.

[CJ]

And then you were back there the next day for the one.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, well, then I had one. I didn't have a driver's license. Minneapolis.

[Evan]

How'd you lose it to begin with?

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I had a lot. I had a few tickets. No DUIs or anything like that, though, because those days, they didn't bother you. But anyway.

[CJ]

No.

[Grandpa Ron]

They tell you to go home. I can. I get picked up, tell you to go home. I'm trying, believe me, if I had it.

[Ken]

I know.

[Grandpa Ron]

I remember one time I got picked up with like. I was in high school, I think, and it was like four in the morning or three in the morning. I get picked up by Annandale, Minnesota. I lived in Kimba, which was like seven miles away or whatever. But anyway, he picked me up. I showed him my driver's license, I had a few beers, and he said, are you Ted's boy? That's my dad. And I said, yeah, well, my dad was kind of in politics. He said, if I ever catch you out here again this late, I'm telling your dad, you know, go home. Oh, shit. I mean, nowadays. Try that.

[CJ]

So you took the ditch.

[Grandpa Ron]

I went home. I mean, well, it was 4 in the morning. I had to go home.

[Ken]

Are you able to tell the story about the golf cart when you piled it up in your neighbor's front lawn or. No.

[CJ]

No, no.

[Evan]

There were fireballs that day.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, there wasn't. In fact, it was a three wheeler like you guys had last week. Okay.

[Ben]

They're dangerous.

[Grandpa Ron]

And you can tell when you. When you drive those three. They tip. They tip easy. Yeah.

[Ken]

No.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

No. So I had a few beers, I'm going home. And I.

[CJ]

In those days, terrible combination.

[Grandpa Ron]

I didn't live on a golf course when I kept my car at my daughter's house because they lived on the golf course. I. I drive it back to their house, and I take this ground, this corner, Take this corner, and I roll over and this guy's your cop in his yard.

[Ken]

Roll over in a cop's front yard?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I rolled a cart over and there's clubs flying all over, bro. Yeah. And I was, oh, if he comes out, I'm dead meat, you know? And I quit throwing my clubs on. Tip the cart back up. I never got caught. Yeah. That's too freaking fun. I know. Right in his. You know. Right in his front yard. Yeah.

[Ben]

How'd you turn. You were up in his yard driving, like, through his yard with those three wheelers.

[Grandpa Ron]

It didn't take much.

[Evan]

Yeah, well, yeah, but you could. Should have been on the road or something.

[Grandpa Ron]

I was at one time.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Did I take the ditch?

[CJ]

Every store something built into those three.

[Grandpa Ron]

Wheelers take the ditch which side? You know which one. But didn't know and I. They kept so easy.

[Ken]

Yeah, yeah, we know.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. You guys know why the hell did.

[CJ]

They ever make three wheeled golf carts?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, that's the first one.

[Evan]

Cheaper to put new tires on.

[Ken]

You could turn pretty tight. Obviously tight enough for it to tip. But there was another one though. I don't know if you can tell that one.

[CJ]

Oh, go put it in a pond.

[Ken]

No, you barreled into the front, then the cops got you and then which.

[Grandpa Ron]

One was that you went to.

[Ken]

You were at.

[CJ]

He was in a car. He was in a car.

[Ken]

You were in a car though, I think. And then you had to call and you ended up getting out of it. Oh, we talked your way out of it, per usual.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh my.

[Ken]

I don't know.

[CJ]

We don't even.

[Grandpa Ron]

I'll tell you what happened.

[Ken]

Couple beers, same thing.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, that. Yeah. I was at the country club on a Thursday night, which is men's night. Two glasses of wine. Right. And that day was in winter time because we're still in the ground. That wasn't hot.

[Evan]

How were you playing golf?

[CJ]

He wasn't. He was just there, just drinking.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, I.

[Ken]

He told grandma that he was playing golf.

[Grandpa Ron]

I was playing cards. We play cards on men's day on Thursdays. So. But I. I got there late and I tried to catch up with the guy. Drinking wine.

[Ben]

That'll get you.

[Grandpa Ron]

And I drove to Minneapolis and I had that. I came from Minneapolis.

[CJ]

How old are you? And you're still playing catch up.

[Grandpa Ron]

Your buddies are.

[CJ]

How drunk are you? Probably like a 4 right now.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Anyways, how to catch up. I drove home and I had a four wheel vehicle but I put it in two wheel drive because roads were good. Right. And from Minneapolis. So anyway, I go and I go directly to the country club, have some good line and I come home and I go around the corner and I step on it. Well, I forgot I didn't have a four wheel drive.

[Ken]

Were you trying to drift?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, I would just try to just go home.

[Ken]

But step on around the corner.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I was. I was just going to take off.

[Ken]

Like a little fishtail.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Kind of.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Drifted. Yeah. I ran there, I hit this tree. So my car is stuck on the tree. Right. Oh, so like it's.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Was a small tree.

[Ben]

Do you remember what kind of car you were driving?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Blazer okay, anyway, I'm trying to get out and I got put it in four wheel drive now cuz they did.

[CJ]

He's driving it.

[Ken]

All of a sudden run again. He's in the front yard.

[Grandpa Ron]

So all of a sudden all the.

[CJ]

Honey, we really got to move away from the.

[Grandpa Ron]

All the lights come on the house, I'm burning on like that and I can't get. So pretty soon here come to freaking cop.

[Ben]

Shut up.

[CJ]

No way.

[Grandpa Ron]

My. One of my neighbors called the cops. So I get. Yeah, exactly. I'm not sure which one. I'm kind of sure, but I don't know. Not there anymore anyway.

[CJ]

TP their house.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Oh, I do more than that. But anyway. Anyways, I said I get out of the car and cop comes over. He said yeah. I said I'll be out of here in a minute. Well, I can't get out. So I get out and he checked me and I said I have to go to the bathroom. And the lady's driveway that I was in, I said, can I use your. Bonnie is her name. Can I use your bathroom? Yeah. Nope, you're not using your bathroom. You're arrested. So they haul my ass to jail, right? Oh, I'm two doors from my house. So I call my buddy up who's a county commissioner and I said, you gotta get me out of this. He was drinking too. So he said I gotta find it because he was drinking with me at the club. And he said I gotta. I'll find somebody to get you, come and pick you up, give you. So. But he did call. I didn't have to use any bail. And so this friend picked me up my go. Next day I'm leaving for Las Vegas with my. We're going to a show clothing show. My freaking car got towed away and I'm ready. And so I happened to have money. I was going to Las Vegas, right? So we get a check in at the police station. I get a couple thousand bucks probably or 1500 in my wallet. I got a DUI. So I get a hold of an attorney and I got. So he started checking around and so is my buddy and he said, when was the last time you had checked? You know, for the. How good your fluid is that they check your. The chemical for dui? Well they hadn't changed that for like nine months. Well that maybe not any good anymore. They threw it out of court.

[Ben]

Wow.

[Grandpa Ron]

So the bottom line is good to have friends and high places. Oh man. Yeah. But otherwise that's the last ticket I think I've had There you go.

[Ben]

You've been driving good since then.

[Ken]

So, like, to preface, these are stories I've heard, like, through my life, throughout my life. Like growing up. Like, good stories like this, obviously. Ben, too. Yeah, just family dinners.

[Grandpa Ron]

I'm in north Minneapolis. When I was getting to that, I didn't have a driver's license that was suspended. And I have this guy with me. Lights go on. I pull around the corner, says, lee, get over here. I'll take care of the fine and everything. But you take the ticket, you get here and say you're driving. That kind of buddy he is. Gets over and gets in the car. Cop comes over there and says, see your license? I wasn't driving. He was. Oh, what?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

What the.

[Grandpa Ron]

That's what I said.

[Ken]

You.

[Grandpa Ron]

So then I keep. Nothing. I kept postponing it and postponing. I was fighting it. And finally the cop had to come to court in Hennepin County. Now, Hennepin county is not a fun jail, by the way. You don't want to be there.

[Ken]

You've been there?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah, I've been there for a couple hours. Okay, that's enough. So anyway, the cop doesn't show up to testify, so they threw that one out. Oh, wow. So I've been lucky on a few of those.

[Ben]

Interesting.

[Ken]

Lucky in everything, Grandpa.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, those are, you know, things that got to be careful of. You guys are young, so watch out.

[CJ]

I think they're a little different now.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, yeah. Now you'd be in jail for a month, so probably.

[Evan]

Yeah, that's why we behave.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, that's exactly why you behave. I can tell. But yeah, that happens. You get older, you get more mild. Yeah, Grandma doesn't think so, but that's the way it is.

[CJ]

I just can't imagine what grandma's doing, like when she gets the call, like, sleeping.

[Evan]

I got my blazer stuck on a tree.

[CJ]

I need you to go over. I think it's still there. They haven't towed it yet. I need you to try and get that off the tree.

[Grandpa Ron]

That kind of happened because she didn't know what happened, right? So I go to jail. I go to jail. They get me out. I go home, go in the house. And now it's like 10:30, 11:00 clock by this time. And I didn't hear the garage door. Came in the front door. Well, I really don't have a car.

[Evan]

So she didn't see the commotion just down there?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, she couldn't see it. So I said, my car has been impounded. I got picked up. Got my ass chewed a little bit, but rightfully so. I deserved it, but oh yeah, Grandma's put up with a lot, right? Oh yeah, yeah.

[Evan]

Did you have to buy them, your neighbors, a new tree?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, I didn't.

[CJ]

God, I would have loved to have seen what that yard looked like.

[Grandpa Ron]

I had all four wheels just. And I got, I got down to the grass.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

But I couldn't get off tree.

[Ken]

They had a little reminder of you in the spring, huh?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh yeah, you're right. There was Ron.

[Ben]

You've gotten pretty. As Ben and CJ said, pretty lucky. Feel like you've been lucky later in life with finding a good lady that puts up with your shenanigans and keeps you in control?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yep.

[Ben]

What advice would you give to Ken and other young gentlemen and Gavin.

[Ken]

And Gavin, they're both sitting here, they're.

[Ben]

Looking for a lady, they're looking out for love. And all the other people listening. What advice would you give?

[Grandpa Ron]

Probably a lot different naughty's because girls are a lot different. Right.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Grandpa Ron]

I would say that if you're not around them and you miss them, you miss you haven't doing something with them, I mean that's a good start.

[Ken]

I mean good advice. That's actually really obvious. I was thinking there was going to be something really aggressive to come out.

[Ben]

No, no, I like that.

[Ken]

That's really good advice.

[Grandpa Ron]

And you know, you think, gosh, I haven't seen, you know, Betty or Jane for, for a week. We haven't gone out and she's so much fun. I like being with her. Let's do something whether no matter what it is, let's do something together and find it. When you do stuff together, you find out that you enjoy it. If you're not really want to get in a relationship, well then it's like, well, see you around.

[Evan]

What if you want that but they don't want it, then what do you do?

[Grandpa Ron]

Probably find a different girl.

[CJ]

So Grandpa Ron, straightforward.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Yeah.

[CJ]

You've been married three times, you're on your fourth.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You're sorry. Divorce three times, you're on your 4th wife.

[Grandpa Ron]

I married my first wife twice.

[Ken]

Right.

[Grandpa Ron]

Okay. And now I only did that because of my daughter.

[CJ]

What is one thing that you could also tell Ken and Gavin of the signs of a crazy woman to watch out for.

[Grandpa Ron]

That's pretty easy. I mean it kind of is. And I, when I was married after my daughter's mother, it would have been my third marriage. I was a clinical psychologist. Right. She was, yeah. That was her profession.

[CJ]

Were you A patient.

[Grandpa Ron]

I became one. So regimented in what she's going to do at five o' clock you can have a drink. And before that you can't. I did not.

[Ken]

That wasn't gonna fly.

[CJ]

How the hell did you get to marriage?

[Ken]

It was the shortest marriage ever.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, her dad was worth $20 million.

[CJ]

You were gold digging.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, not really. She was a beautiful woman. Besides then I didn't play golf for a year and a half when I was married to her. Wow. Not drinking till five. Not playing a golf really doesn't sound.

[CJ]

What the fuck were you doing?

[Grandpa Ron]

I don't know.

[CJ]

Like, actually, what were you doing?

[Grandpa Ron]

I don't. I don't remember. I mean, it was just blacked out. I was miserable. Not black. Yeah, I'm just miserable. Kind of like.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

You know, And I was on the road during the week, traveling at the time. But I get home and shit. This is like going into a prison cell.

[Ken]

Darn.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Well, one time her daughter goes outside and takes a water hose and starts spraying inside the house, the window. Oh, you shouldn't do that again. I mean, no discipline. I found that.

[Ken]

Except for with you.

[Evan]

What would you have done to a garden hose in your living room?

[Grandpa Ron]

I'd go out and kick their ass. Like if it was bad.

[Evan]

If you would have caught Ben with the garden hose in the kick.

[Grandpa Ron]

How old he is?

[Evan]

14.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, then he needs his ass kicked.

[CJ]

Yeah. I feel like some kids just never had their ass kicked.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Growing up.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[CJ]

God, My dad used to grab me by the ear. That was like. Like when he's yelling at me, grabs me by the ear. Dude, I still have ptsd. Touch my ear.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, I know. Yeah. Well, I had five older brothers. Okay. On a farm and so. Shit. I mean, I didn't have a chance really, because one would kick my ass, the other one would. In fact, I was thinking about that the other day growing up that I never. My parents never lie and never swear. I'm trying to figure out. I never lie, but swearing. I wonder what happened to me there, because I didn't. I bet I was 14 or 15 before I never let my mother hear me swear.

[CJ]

Yeah. The floodgates just opened.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, kind of. And. But my brothers picked on me. Of course. We had boxy gloves. That's why. I know it's got broken and knock through a window.

[Ben]

And you were the youngest.

[Grandpa Ron]

I had one younger. Nine years younger than me. And I had. My other one brother was. Was nine years older and me was kind of. So we'd have boxing gloves so he said, I'll box on my knees. That really doesn't slow down his punch, right?

[Ben]

No, he's still getting clocked pretty good.

[Grandpa Ron]

Goddamn stupid. I am. One time, when my parents were gone for the weekend, which was very seldom, we get enough, and we'd fight in the house, he knocked me through our. Our window. We have a picture window in the house. Bang. I go through this window. Like, oh, man.

[CJ]

So anyways, that could have been like. You went through the window? Did you get, like, cut off?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, no, no, I didn't.

[CJ]

Oh, so you got, like, tossed through it?

[Grandpa Ron]

I got hit like that, and it went backwards like that, right through. But anyway, if you tell mom and dad what happened, you are in serious trouble. So I made up a story there. He had some friends over, and they were wrestling around, so my parents never knew about till years later. You wonder why that window was broken when you got home? Because your one son knocked me through it. That's why.

[CJ]

That's what happened. One time when I was riding dirt bikes with my brother, I came over a hill. He was coming down the hill, and he hit me, and it broke my foot. And he told me, don't tell mom and dad what actually happened. Tell him that you tipped over and you broke your foot. So I did.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[CJ]

I think I just told him, like, the truth a couple of years ago.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Yeah. He was just like, I didn't hit you. You tipped over. I'm like, oh, okay. I did. Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

I had a pretty good life, really, growing up as a kid in a farm with five older brothers and whatever. My dad was a pretty good farmer, so we always had what we wanted, but. Well, you guys took you guys there.

[Ken]

Yeah, it's cool to see.

[Ben]

We.

[Ken]

Ben and I, went to his farm that he grew up in, sold the house, still had the barn, you know. What was that two years ago? Two summers ago.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Barn blew down now, but anyway.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah, it was.

[Ken]

It was on its last leg.

[Grandpa Ron]

It was on.

[Ken]

We went in there and it was cool. Yeah, it was really cool to see, you know, you were kind of giving us a tour. Like, I'd wake up and I'd come here and I'd, you know, get the eggs and.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ken]

And then Grandpa went up and knocked on the house, and I don't think the people. Did they know that you grew up there?

[Grandpa Ron]

No.

[CJ]

Yeah. He just goes up, knocks on the house.

[Ken]

We were walking around this farm for a while, and then he just was like. Like, they're home. We're going in the barn, doing all this stuff. And I'm like, I kind of just assumed they knew who he was. And then. Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna see if they have any eggs for sale. Goes up, knocks on the door, and she's like, what's up?

[CJ]

Hey.

[Ken]

Yeah, I was just wondering if you guys had any eggs.

[CJ]

For sure.

[Ken]

I'd love to buy some eggs. And she was like, oh, yeah, they were selling eggs.

[CJ]

It'd be like somebody that used to live at our shops or the. The farm over there. No, but they show up and they take a full tour around, and we're just sitting there.

[Ken]

There's a chicken coop at our farm, and they used to have eggs. Imagine they're just, hey, do you have any eggs? And Gavin just goes inside, grabs the.

[CJ]

Eggs out of the fridge that we got at the grocery store.

[Evan]

Dude.

[Ken]

Yeah. Here we go. Five bucks.

[CJ]

The family that used to own our farm basically just built, like, kitty corner to where it is now, the other.

[Ben]

Side of the tree line.

[CJ]

And they still have, like, six chickens that run around that I'm assuming used to live in our chicken coop.

[Evan]

They love the Chevy graveyard.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah. So. So these chickens started wandering over. I think they just remembered, like, their old home. And we'll be out filming, and these chickens are just, like, wandering around, and. And, yeah, I mean, I'm thinking about maybe just seeing if we can buy them from them so we can get some. Some eggs.

[Grandpa Ron]

Get some eggs where? You bet.

[Ken]

Do you have any advice? Because I've been saying it for a while. So we call it the farm because it used to be a farm, but it's not technically a farm right now.

[Evan]

It's a content farm.

[Ken]

That's true, but I'm looking for, like, agricultural farm. What animals would you recommend we get? And then Ken will take care of them, because I just could see early in the morning milking the cattle.

[Grandpa Ron]

You're gonna. Before you.

[Gavin]

Before you say an answer already.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, we know that. Don't drink that milk. Yeah, you might. Yeah, you might want to audit this, But I think if you're gonna have animals around. Ken don't have sheep, man.

[Evan]

Did Ken get done dirty.

[Gavin]

Keep them coming.

[Evan]

That's what you said to the cow.

[CJ]

Yeah. I think we need a. At least, like, a mini horse over there. You know, something that's, like, kind of low.

[Evan]

Get me to ride a mini horse.

[CJ]

I'm thinking, like, wouldn't ride a mini horse.

[Ken]

We'd get normal horses for all of us and a mini horse for you.

[Evan]

I know it would become a Meme so quick. Like I just know better.

[CJ]

Funny everything Cowboy boots with a little hat on.

[Grandpa Ron]

Why is it a little hat? I don't know.

[CJ]

Just a little hat for his little horse. Little boots, his little buckle, a little belt buckle.

[Grandpa Ron]

Do any of you guys ride horse at all?

[CJ]

No, I don't. With horses we have.

[Ken]

Remember that time me, Ken and you did it?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I drive by that farm all the time now and I think about it.

[Ken]

I had no control over that horse. That horse was just going wherever it wanted and I was just there.

[CJ]

Well, horses go rogue. It's like the throttle sticking on a dirt bike. Like it's a bad situation or not.

[Grandpa Ron]

If you're training right. They don't.

[CJ]

Yeah. But every once in a while, who's to say that they're not like the.

[Grandpa Ron]

One horse that he's talking about. He couldn't stop when he pulled back on the rein. Horse will bite the bit. That bit is what goes in the mouth like this. And they'll bite it so when you pull on it, they don't feel it here. So you. But you can buy a special bridle that will make it so they can't do that. They will go rogue if they can bite the bit because you can't control them.

[Ken]

I ever been a horse guy, like, did you ever have horse, you were riding them?

[Grandpa Ron]

I used to break horses.

[CJ]

Really?

[Grandpa Ron]

Really.

[Ken]

Like wild horses?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, no, no, they weren't wild. They would be maybe a horse, a colt was born when they were. As they got a little older, I would start riding them.

[CJ]

Really?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ken]

So do you guys use horses to like farm, like drag the plows and stuff?

[Grandpa Ron]

We did in some years because my. Well, you guys, where we lived along the road there and we had cornfield along the highway and if my dad took horses and a corn, two row corn planter, he could make every row straight this way. Diagonal or crossways. It would look perfect.

[Ben]

Oh, he wanted it to look good.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. And that. And he would do it too. With horses he could.

[Ben]

So he could go straighter with a horse than he could with a track.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Oh yeah. We used. Yep.

[Ken]

What would happen with the horse is like they get like real tired.

[Grandpa Ron]

They can.

[Ken]

It's a hot day. Like you have to be pretty like careful with them.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

You can't get to overwork.

[Grandpa Ron]

You can give them too much water at one time after they worked hard. But normally you don't beat them up. Horses are pretty stable.

[CJ]

Every time I'm driving out west, I'm always just reminded like this Is really nice being in a car and not being on a horse and buggy.

[Ken]

Yeah, I think the same thing.

[CJ]

That's how they found it. They were just going through fields, too.

[Grandpa Ron]

Did you ever think about going from city to city and a freaking stagecoach across the desert or something? The ride you would have and wooden wheels riding in the back of that for hours.

[CJ]

Yeah, it's insane.

[Ben]

We complain about the down road, bro. And our van, we're like, God, this road's getting bad.

[CJ]

Yeah, dude.

[Ken]

When you really think about it, just some wooden wheels on not even a road.

[CJ]

Yeah, I think about that every time. I'm just like, somebody needs to just get him a car and tell them it's all right.

[Ken]

We should surprise the Amish with a car for a video. Imagine, thumbnail and title.

[Grandpa Ron]

Don't do a car, do a pickup. They won't drive a car.

[Evan]

And we get them in El Camino.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, they'd drive.

[Evan]

They won't know what to do.

[Ken]

Dunked out El Camino with subs. We'll do yours, Zev.

[Evan]

No, not that one.

[Grandpa Ron]

They won't drive a car. They'll drive pickups.

[Ken]

Well, I didn't even know that they will drive pickups.

[Grandpa Ron]

What are the people over there by Holly?

[Ben]

They're all right.

[Grandpa Ron]

They have, you see the pickups.

[Ben]

But they.

[Grandpa Ron]

They won't drive cars either.

[Gavin]

They do a little bit of technology, though. Like, the Amish, don't.

[Ben]

They do the vans. They all load up in the van.

[Gavin]

A van loaded them last week wearing their little straw hats.

[CJ]

Yeah, right there.

[Grandpa Ron]

Who are right.

[Ben]

Shout out to Peter Yoder, ex Amish Mafia. There's a guy who is a subscriber and we've met. Yeah, he's probably listening. Shout out to Peter. And he has a sticker on the top of his Chevy that says Ex Amish Mafia.

[Ken]

Yeah, he used to be Amish grandpa, and he ran away. I think it was only like six months after he had ran away. He met us in, like, 20, 21 because he had, you know, discovered watching, finding YouTube and all these things. And he was kind of nearby us, and he found out we were doing a meetup. So he came and he, like, starts talking to us and, like, told us the story, and it was just. It was just crazy. But then he came back one day out of the blue, like, we didn't exchange information. He came and he gave us that hat to put on the podcast studio. We should have filmed it, but did.

[CJ]

He leave the hoodroids?

[Ken]

I don't know if it was the Hutterites. I don't know where it was exactly.

[Grandpa Ron]

But Ken is right. The Hudarites have great technology. I used to sell them a lot of stuff. Joe over at Holly in that area there. And I go into his office. He's got his computer there and a deal in cash. He'd have quarter million dollars in a drawer. And I said, you know, where is this? Oh, well, you never get to it.

[CJ]

You would get there, and you would just become part of their culture.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

They'd use you like.

[CJ]

Oh, yeah. Well, they would just.

[Gavin]

He's a little short for them, but.

[CJ]

Yeah, but they would probably make use of for him. Yeah, they'd find out that he could wheelie a horse.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well.

[CJ]

He'D be putting on, like, halftime shows for their lunch.

[Grandpa Ron]

Actually, Evan, sometimes when these colonies get so large, like 150, 175 people, they have to break loose.

[CJ]

Well, bring it outside.

[Grandpa Ron]

That's bringing outside. You don't do that. Need to say what I'm looking for a stud.

[Ken]

Here's Evan might catch a venereal disease, but. Bad joke.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, they're clean. The clean people.

[Ken]

I was saying, Evan.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[CJ]

They're the problem.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, Evan.

[CJ]

Well, yeah, no, they wouldn't let them in.

[Ken]

They do a background check.

[CJ]

Evan gets a call. Yeah, a couple of her women have these problems, and everything's like, thanks for letting me know. I'll go get checked.

[Grandpa Ron]

I can hold my doctor right now.

[Ken]

Oh, my Jesus.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, you are a badass, aren't you, Evan? No.

[CJ]

Do you think the Amish know, like, what's going on in, like, the country right now, or they just don't care? Like, do you think that the Amish, like, vote? So today is Tuesday, the election day.

[Grandpa Ron]

I don't know about if the hooter rights vote or not, but they're not. They know what's going on in the world. Like, they'll. They can do so much on their own. Like, for example, people tile fields, you know, to drain. Drain tile. Well, hell, they. They don't hire it done. They go out and buy the machine and do it themselves. And they deal in cash, a lot of cash. No glutton. By poor land. And then they'll fix it up. Fix it up because they have the labor. Labor is no problem for them, obviously, but they don't.

[CJ]

Like.

[Ben]

They pay in tax.

[CJ]

You know, they're not.

[Ken]

Are they exempt from taxes?

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, yeah, it's considered religion. Church, so I'm not sure, but they. I. I'm not sure on that, but it's considered a religion.

[CJ]

So if they're not getting the news, though, you know, they're not getting fed.

[Evan]

They're probably, like, keeping an eye on things and pretending they're not. You know, there's probably people in there that, like, have a TV in the back.

[Grandpa Ron]

They have a radio.

[Evan]

They're kind of like, phony. Or not phony. I don't know. They're just doing what they want and then, like, making sure the people underneath them are doing what they're supposed to.

[Grandpa Ron]

They do have radio. So I used to go out there a lot and. And I would have lunch with them. And, you know, they are kind of sly. I'd have lunch with Joe, and he's the kingpin.

[Ben]

Right.

[Grandpa Ron]

So we go in this hall. Well, he's a big guy. Yeah. He's the man. Whatever. And he controls all the money and all the spending and everything.

[CJ]

He voted in.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, it's kind of hereditary. I mean, he passed down, I think, because now I think he passed away in miniature for a while. And now I think his son is ahead of interest. But I used to go out there and I got to know him as well. His wife died. Make cookies for me when I got there.

[Ken]

I bet those were good cookies.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, they're great. But anyway, I'd have lunch there. He take me, and they ringed him at noon. Everybody eats at noon. So we go in there. We're at the head table, Joe. And then maybe a couple guys on top. And he had me there and all the food you can eat. But he said, ron, you better have a glass of wine. Yeah. I'm doing business with him. Not gonna say no. Right?

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

So I have some wine, and, well, this chokecherry wine made out of 190 proof alcohol. Whoa. So I have a glass of that. Jesus Christ. I'm sitting there having. Eating. All of a sudden, everything is going, ron. What's the matter with. I suppose Joe? Oh, man, that's like drinking straight alcohol.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

And I drank almost a glass full of it.

[Ben]

You were drinking a little. It was Pinot Grigio.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Anyway. And of course, he laughed about that, you know, but he was smart guy. I mean, he run the computer and they go to auctions. And you could go out there maybe on a Monday, and they'd have a John Deere tractor. Tires burned off of it, nothing left of it. Right. You go back a week later, and that thing is, like, brand new because they bought it that way.

[Ken]

Oh.

[Ben]

And they fixed it up.

[Grandpa Ron]

You go back a week later, it's, like, brand new. They have an electrician shop, a carpenter shop, and beautiful cabinets. Guys can do anything.

[CJ]

We got to bring some of our stuff over there.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

What'd be actually a really good idea?

[Ben]

Gav, can you throw on that hat for me for a minute?

[Grandpa Ron]

Just to get the visual?

[CJ]

What if we sent Gavin to learn a thing, an apprenticeship?

[Grandpa Ron]

I got a couple of names out there for you guys.

[CJ]

I don't know, Grandpa, if we want to be affiliated.

[Ken]

Yeah, we might be better off just starting fresh.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, they kind of like me because I bullshit with them a little bit and whatever. I gave them good deals.

[Ken]

What were you doing out there selling.

[Grandpa Ron]

Them or what kind of business were you doing? I had to salvage stuff from Can Am Trucking, and we'd have truckloads of stuff that was delivered, but people wouldn't accept it, and the manufacturer didn't want it and the buyers didn't want it, and then Bob would charge them for storage. So all of a sudden, it's ours, right? And I was selling it to them like a pallet of peanut butter, for example. Be less than half price or whatever it may be.

[CJ]

So I don't want to get, like, too political, but I'm curious what your take on this is, Grandpa.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, my.

[CJ]

I don't want you to get too political either. Let me preface that. But being that today's election day, people watching this know, like, who the new president, who the new president is, I have seriously zero, zero inkling, like, what's going to happen or who it's going to be. But I'm curious if you've ever, like, in your lifetime seen, like, this much division between the country. Never between, like, Democrats, Republicans. It seems like it's like oil and water right now.

[Grandpa Ron]

Never. You know, the parties. Let's go back and let's use Democrats, for example. Let's take the John F. Kennedy 1960s or whatever. Completely different party. Look at Robert Kennedy right now. He's doing Republican, right? Seems to me that they do a lot of untruths and the press is brutal, and I don't know why that is, the money there or whatever.

[CJ]

Back in the day when, like, the opposing candidate that you wanted to win would win, you know, you kind of just accept it and move on, right? Like, it's like, oh, the people chose what the people wanted, right? It was like a fair and honest election, right? So, like, on the Wednesday after the Tuesday of the election day, you know, would the country kind of just accept it as it is?

[Grandpa Ron]

Pretty much, yeah.

[CJ]

Because it's like, well, this is our president now, you know, we kind of like, this is our guy.

[Grandpa Ron]

But the technology is a lot different nowadays, of course, and people can do different things. Smart people can. I mean, they really can. I'm not really a big Trump fan, but I like his policy and I look what he does and I look at what you are, you guys and your kids. I mean, I'm looking at crime we have now, looking at the border that we have now, and inflation and things like that. Then you look at the other side and they really don't have a way to stop that.

[CJ]

Policy aside, I'm just curious as to like, like how you've seen over the years, I mean, however many different presidents you've, you've had in your lifetime, you know how you've seen just, I guess the effect of it on the world because, like, at the end of the day, how much is the president really going to affect, you know, our day to day lives? Not that much. But how much is, you know, the people that you're surrounded by? Like, if, if, like there's so much division.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, that's true. You lose friends and people would speak to you.

[CJ]

But it just seems like there's like more of that. Like there's more of, like.

[Grandpa Ron]

That's right.

[CJ]

It's like a less of a group where it's like, oh, no, he, he likes Trump. Or like, no, she likes Kamala. And like you like, look at them in like such a different light.

[Ken]

It's almost like the, the country is like being torn apart within or just trying to elect a leader, a new leader. But it's dividing us when we should all be united as one. It's technically us versus everyone else. But we're. We can't even get along ourselves.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, they call each other names, in my opinion. If Republicans, for example, weren't running Trump and had another person running for office right now, and you look at what's happening in the world, would be a landslide for the Republicans. A landslide.

[CJ]

And I didn't necessarily think that was like the best move, but it's like it wasn't even close.

[Grandpa Ron]

I understand that. Yeah, but you got. People don't like his personality, that's fine. You have to like his personality.

[CJ]

I mean, this might sound crazy because everyone knows, like, who won, but like, I just see, like, if Trump wins, like, people that hate him are going like, you're gonna just hear about it non stop, non stop, non stop. And if Kamala wins, people that love Trump are gonna just be like, it was fake. It was, it Was rigged. It was that. So it's like, yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

There's not. There's not gonna be an ending.

[Grandpa Ron]

There's not going to be a solution, in my opinion. What. Whoever wins. But say my. My candidate doesn't win any other person. Let's see what they do. And you got to live with it either way.

[CJ]

Exactly.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Either way, you got to get up the next day. No matter who gets elected, that's your president, and you got to keep doing what you got to do, do what.

[Grandpa Ron]

You got to do.

[Ken]

That's all you can do. And really all you can do.

[Grandpa Ron]

And it, again, it depends on, you know, you got your Congress and you have your Senate.

[CJ]

Yeah. I mean, most of the time, it's a lot anyways.

[Grandpa Ron]

But you got some. Some programs that really go, because I'm older, go against what I. I believe in, like the transgender in prisons, for example, you know, and if you transgender, that's fine, but why should the taxpayer have to pay for when somebody's in prison? Right? I mean, that kind of thing.

[CJ]

Really? I've never even heard of that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, yeah, That's Harris's deal. If you're in prison, they should be a lot. If they want to be a transgender, they should be allowed to have the surgery.

[Ben]

While you're in prison.

[Grandpa Ron]

While you're in prison.

[CJ]

So then do they get switched?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, whatever they are.

[CJ]

No, no, no. Do they get switched? They get switched to, like, a woman.

[Ken]

Be a bad play, realistically?

[Grandpa Ron]

Basically, yeah. Yeah.

[CJ]

But I mean, I've been pulling that one.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Yeah. And you look at, like, what good.

[Evan]

Would go into an all women's prison be without my dick?

[CJ]

I don't know, but something tells me you'd want to find out.

[Grandpa Ron]

Go by yourself, Go buy yourself a pack of dildos. But, yeah, I mean, you know, some policies like that or something that beyond.

[Ben]

What I think be interesting to see what happens.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, it will.

[Ben]

From a week.

[Grandpa Ron]

I hope it works out. I. You know, that's the truth. Personally, I think a guy like J.D. vance for Trump's running mate, I mean, this guy makes a lot of sense. He doesn't call people names and he talk. He tells it like it kind of like it is. And you get a guy like we have in Minnesota, Tim Walsh. I hope you. Tim, you get in now. You see this. Hope you don't shoot me. But I mean, a guy like that, I mean, it's serious. I mean, it is.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Let's see what happens. It is what it is. You know, nobody works out yet. I. If I have people who vote for Harris or friends of mine. That's fine. You vote for who you want. I don't care. But some people don't see it that way.

[Ben]

And that's what I think. Yeah, I was getting at that. So crazy that the world so.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So torn.

[Grandpa Ron]

Right. I mean, you have your opinion. You can do what you like.

[CJ]

Can you remember president like two running mates that had any kind of division, as much as there is not this much.

[Evan]

Has it been like a smooth like escalation to like where it is now or is it a little up and down?

[Grandpa Ron]

Like it may be up a little up and down. I mean, there's like. For example, I like Bill Clinton. I thought he was a good president and he was great for the.

[CJ]

Because he was a dog or.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, no. Yeah, he was more than that. I mean, so he had a little fun on the side.

[Evan]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Grandpa Ron]

You should be president. You'd be a good guy.

[Ken]

Oh my gosh.

[CJ]

Holy shit.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. And if I look at and Republican side and I look at George Bush second, he was weak. Weak president. His dad was pretty good. You know, Jimmy Carter was bad. Ronald Reagan was good. Dwight Eisenhower was terrible. But that's the way it is, you know, in those days. This year it's really bad. Ev.

[Ben]

If you could be president, dude, what would be like the first thing you change?

[Evan]

You could drive anything, anywhere.

[Ben]

Unlike dirt bikes.

[Evan]

Yeah, like. Like going down the highway.

[Grandpa Ron]

Whatever.

[Evan]

Whatever you got. Just, you know, maybe a little different way to pay for the roads. You don't got to buy tabs and license. License plates and all that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Bogus.

[Evan]

You know, just get a little more slack on that. The transportation side of things. And I think it would make this country a better place.

[Ben]

There you go. President.

[Ken]

Ride your dirt bike on have something to do with dirt bikes?

[Evan]

Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of stand up for quad guys too, you know, I'm not leaving anyone out.

[Ben]

Thanks, buddy.

[Ken]

Do dabble in quads from time to time inclusive.

[Grandpa Ron]

I would be a lot bigger on.

[Evan]

Crime, but not like motor vehicles.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about, you know, nowadays you can and steal stuff if it's under $900. They don't even prosecute you. That's bullshit.

[CJ]

I saw a post the other day that said. Well, it was actually a photo of like a T shirt and it was priced at $900. And then next to it was like a wallet that was $900 and said everything in this store cost $900 and the discount is put onto the product when you rung up. So if you steal from this store without us ringing up the product, you're stealing at the value of 900, which is, you know, grand.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, genius. Great idea.

[Ken]

It is sad that it even has to come to that, though.

[Ben]

That'd be great for Micah's inconvenience store.

[CJ]

Oh yeah, that would be.

[Ben]

The price isn't real. There's a discount applied at checkout.

[Evan]

You have no idea what it is. It just says you have to know.

[Gavin]

What the discount code is for it to apply.

[Ben]

There we go. Now we're talking.

[Grandpa Ron]

What is Micah going to have a.

[CJ]

Yeah, he's starting a store. We're at somewhere like really inconvenient.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh yeah.

[Evan]

A couple miles outside of town. Okay.

[CJ]

Yeah. So we were thinking of like different things that Mike could do like at his inconvenience store. One would be, you know, like the parking lot would be. Would be like just a mile down the road, but there'd be a shuttle bus that like runs between the parking lot. But the shuttle bus would run every 30 minutes. But there's a 15 minute parking meter at the parking lot. So if you don't pay for it after 15 minutes, you get parking tickets.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh my.

[Ben]

All the boxes are backwards so you can't see the labels of anything. Like is inconvenient.

[CJ]

You have to buy off the ingredients.

[Evan]

They don't accept cards, but they also.

[Ben]

Don'T give out change.

[Grandpa Ron]

What a deal that is.

[Gavin]

He only accepts pennies.

[Evan]

The gas pumps actually have a hand crank on them.

[Grandpa Ron]

It'd be interesting to talk to him a year after he has it.

[CJ]

Yeah, Mike's big on like starting businesses that don't work though.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, retail business is tough.

[CJ]

Yeah. Well, I mean his hot dog stand still doing really well, but he kind of took the foot off the gas with his skate park.

[Ken]

Even charge anyone to get in. It was free.

[CJ]

And doing it for the kids. Yeah, and then he just gave everyone a bunch of stuff.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Money and skateboards.

[Ben]

You guys get that buffed out?

[Gavin]

Can 75% of it taken out?

[Ben]

It's still there.

[Evan]

Ken, I saw one of your employees today was running some sick south park Heelys.

[Gavin]

Oh yeah? Yeah, he bought some Heelys last week.

[Evan]

Did you notice any increased productivity?

[Grandpa Ron]

No.

[Evan]

Was it a decrease?

[Gavin]

Both flat.

[Evan]

I was going to say, just don't count the time that everyone probably had to take a test drive in the Heelys. Other than that moment, it was.

[Gavin]

It was. That was fine.

[CJ]

Is everyone test driving the Heelys?

[Gavin]

Nobody liked them.

[Ben]

I. I drove over There this morning I had to park a trailer and at about 8:57am I could hear the music outside of the building. Yeah, it was bumping. Dude, it sounded like a club.

[Gavin]

They had the speaker really loud.

[Ken]

Ken, do you have any control?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, yeah.

[Ken]

It doesn't seem that way.

[Gavin]

I don't care about the ox cord.

[Ben]

But do you feel like you're learning because these guys are a little bit younger than you? Do you feel like you're picking up their young person traits?

[Gavin]

It is interesting, some of the music they listen to.

[CJ]

How about the words that they say?

[Gavin]

Oh, they're not that young.

[Ben]

I heard you guys listening to the Hawk Tool podcast.

[Gavin]

Ironic that they put that on because they put it on just to torture people. The one guy puts it on just because the other guy hates it so bad.

[Ken]

Is it bad?

[CJ]

I keep seeing like, talk to him memes.

[Gavin]

It's so bad.

[Ben]

Yeah, but I mean, everything I see, dude, on shorts, it's got like 3 million views.

[Gavin]

Take it for a listen. It's the worst thing you'll possibly listen to.

[Ben]

What's worse? Bad baby. Or talk to a.

[Gavin]

Talk to her.

[CJ]

Have you heard about the Hawk Tua girl?

[Grandpa Ron]

No. What is that all about?

[CJ]

Hawk 2. We pop it up.

[Grandpa Ron]

What's one move in bed that makes.

[Ken]

A man go crazy every time?

[Grandpa Ron]

Give him that hawk, too, and spend all that night. You get me?

[Ken]

What do you think about that, Grandpa?

[Grandpa Ron]

I don't know.

[Ken]

Yeah, she became very famous after doing that.

[CJ]

Yeah, like insanely famous.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, if she worked. If it worked. It works.

[CJ]

It worked for her.

[Grandpa Ron]

Y.

[Ben]

There you go.

[Grandpa Ron]

There you go.

[Ken]

Wild times.

[CJ]

Grandpa, did you watch our reckless golfing video?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yes, I did.

[CJ]

What you think of that as a golfer?

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I. I think probably I wouldn't. Wouldn't want to get in your way while you guys are driving for number one. It's hard for me to say that because I. I've been with you guys and doing that stuff, so, I mean, I know how. How it is kind of. I mean, you guys don't really wreck anything. I mean, as far as golf course goes, you wreck your. Your carts and shit. But sometimes you look at driving through a sand trap, for example, you know, is, you know, if you're a golfer. Oh, God, I don't know about that.

[CJ]

Pretty bad golf etiquette. Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Driving. You guys never drive on the greens. That's not a problem. You know, other than that. I say you go in the water, hit a tree, roll over. Big deal, right?

[CJ]

Yeah, it's. It's like very Little to no course destruction. It's just all right, right?

[Ken]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Our own golf carts.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken]

You trying to hit the last causes more destruction with divots we're taking with the bunkers.

[Evan]

They run a tractor through it in the morning, fluff it back up.

[Grandpa Ron]

I understand that, but a lot of people don't. Well, I'm a golfer, but if I wasn't a golfer, Geez, you know, because when you play, you rake it and you do this.

[CJ]

We raked it.

[Grandpa Ron]

I. Oh, I know that.

[CJ]

We always after you even.

[Evan]

And let me tell you, that was a lot of raking, the whole thing.

[Grandpa Ron]

And Ben even straightened up the weeds at one golf course.

[CJ]

Leave it better than we found it.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[CJ]

When Gavin went in the pond, you know, when. When Evan pushed Gavin in the pond.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Gavin actually took garbage out of the pond too, because he was in there. So we were like, oh, grab the garbage while you're in there.

[Grandpa Ron]

Absolutely.

[CJ]

We'll leave it better than we found it.

[Grandpa Ron]

But I'm the wrong person to probably ask that. But if I were trying to be really, you know, impartial or whatever you want to call it, you know, driving the cart through the traps, think you might maybe ruin the edge, you know?

[CJ]

Yeah, it doesn't.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, I know.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

But could. But people see the concern.

[Ken]

You didn't know us. If you didn't know us and you just saw that video, you would think that's not cool.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, I don't know about that. I would think maybe. Well, I might.

[Evan]

I don't up to go golf and have some fireballs.

[Grandpa Ron]

I'm for that. Yeah. Yeah.

[CJ]

Grandpa on fireballs. And a three wheel golf cart is causing.

[Grandpa Ron]

You guys still have that three wheeler? Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

I can show you how to drive it.

[Ken]

Oh, my man.

[Ben]

We get you and Gavin together.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

There you go.

[CJ]

I can't see that.

[Evan]

I can see it now. An obstacle course. Grandpa teaching Gavin how to drive the Harley properly through it.

[CJ]

I cannot imagine that would end well.

[Grandpa Ron]

No, probably not.

[Ben]

I was talking with a guy, and he was actually from the town where we. Where we did that at the course. And he goes, well, you know what? You just used all the parts of the course that I didn't want to use anyway.

[Grandpa Ron]

Good. Yeah.

[Ben]

He goes, I don't want to be in the bunker. I don't want to be off in the side. He goes, you know, I'm trying to be on the fairway in the green and goes, I don't even know if he drove on the fairway the whole time.

[Grandpa Ron]

So well, yeah, true.

[Ben]

I was like, I like that attitude on it.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Evan]

We certainly didn't take too many divots.

[CJ]

That's true.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, Ken may have when he played the moriad.

[Gavin]

Just a couple.

[Ben]

That was him just trying to go divots, though.

[Grandpa Ron]

They weren't divots. They were beaver tails.

[Evan]

When I played high school golf, I was on the driving range, and my golf coach came up to me and said, what the hell is wrong with you? You're digging your own grave. That's how deep my divots were.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, my. But I think on those golf videos, more what you do with. With the equipment, with your carts and stuff, you know, when you tip them over and run into each other and go in the water with them, that's no big deal, you know?

[Ben]

I mean, what do you think of that 80 horsepower golf cart?

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, that's a dandy.

[Ken]

Would you like.

[Ben]

Pretty nasty, huh?

[Grandpa Ron]

No, I don't think I'd like it. I may like it, but I don't think I should have it.

[CJ]

We were gonna bring it over, and we were gonna. Yeah, we were gonna, like, do a. Like a prank on you of, like, putting you in it and then having Evan rip off down the road. But we were like, ah, this probably so dangerous.

[Evan]

Long story short, you didn't trust me.

[Gavin]

Yeah, it also really is a sticky.

[CJ]

Throttle, but, yeah, we gotta get that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, very dangerous. What? It would be fun someday, though, you guys, to come up and bring it up, and we'll be playing golf, and we'll start passing everybody on the course.

[CJ]

It's so funny.

[Ken]

Yeah, it's so good.

[Grandpa Ron]

That thing moves.

[CJ]

It does. And it's, like, really well built. Like, it's actually. It's a little bent up. I don't even think we showed, actually, what happened to it, but Evan hit Gavin, so we got to get that fixed.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, golf carts are built pretty well.

[Ken]

Yeah, we know.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. You guys, you should be a tester for some of these golf cart companies, maybe.

[Ken]

Oh, Yamaha hit us up easy.

[CJ]

Go hit us up, Send us a fleet of them.

[Evan]

I do think it's. It's debatably the most dangerous vehicle we have in our fleet, you know? You don't think nothing bad can happen. It's just a little golf cart.

[Grandpa Ron]

You don't have any protection?

[Evan]

No.

[Ben]

And no.

[Evan]

The roofs are not solid. They flip. And then to be able to go 80 miles an hour, you get yourself into trouble awfully quick.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, yeah. Well, that's unusual, of course.

[Ken]

I mean, there are only.

[Grandpa Ron]

There's not Many of those around. Evelyn, I hate to tell you, but.

[Ken]

How many times in your life have you seen someone flip a golf cart on the golf course when it wasn't us or you coming home from.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, I've got it myself, but I saw a guy tip in the side hill one time and that was just because he made a bad turn. It was nothing major.

[Ken]

So it doesn't happen as often as we'd think. Like every time we go golfing. That's bound to happen.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, you make it happen.

[CJ]

Golf course just have such a low center of gravity. You really gotta, you, you know, put yourself in a bad situation. Like our buddy Gavin did. He found out what it looked like flipping it.

[Grandpa Ron]

I tell you. You know Harley Davidson used to make golf carts.

[CJ]

Yeah, that's what we got.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh, okay. I had one of those.

[CJ]

The three wheel one.

[Grandpa Ron]

Three wheel. And I left it. My daughter borrowed it one night and left it at the club because he went to some place to eat besides club. Whatever. Anyways, there was a wedding that night. The next morning I go to play golf. My cart is floating in number nine.

[Ken]

No way.

[Grandpa Ron]

Oh yeah, yeah. Sitting out there, of course, the three wheeler, you know, it comes up, that's up there like that and there's a pair of shoes with it. So the pro is all worried that calls the wedding party. Anybody missing because we got a pair of shoes and a golf cart out there. They just took the golf cart which did was setting by the deal. Anyway, we pulled it out and that thing still ran.

[Ben]

Hey, there you go.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Why would Harley Davidson make golf carts? That does not seem like a Harley Davidson thing to do. Obviously they don't make them anymore, but.

[Grandpa Ron]

What? Yeah, Columbia. Well, I bought a new Harley Davidson at red one. I had. Remember that red card I had the four wheeler.

[CJ]

Harley Davidson made four wheel golf carts too?

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, that was the last thing they made. And when it was done, they would.

[Ken]

Have probably stuck around if they made them sound like Harley's.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Imagine a Harley hour and they probably.

[Ken]

Would have stuck around the loudest golf.

[Ben]

Cart on the course.

[Evan]

But it's really slow.

[CJ]

Well, we've been thinking about maybe doing a Harley swap in our Harley three wheel golf cart. But there's only one way that could end with Gavin driving it.

[Ken]

The last thing he needs is more horsepower.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, you should put straight pipes on that.

[Evan]

We usually try to like keep the carts a little low key. You know, we got to get away from the pro shop.

[Grandpa Ron]

We were what, 50 yards from the pro shop. Here's Ken right Through the sand trap, at least. Wait, you get to pass the number one team. Remember that. Get past the number one tee box or number two tee box before.

[CJ]

Yeah, King gets all horny.

[Grandpa Ron]

I suppose he does. Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

You got to start early. You got to use the whole course.

[Grandpa Ron]

I'll give you credit for that, I'll tell you that. Wow.

[CJ]

You know, kind of just to wrap everything up, you know, after beating cancer. Grandpa, I'm curious what your outlook on life is after going through something like that. If you. It gives you a new appreciation for things or if it, you know, makes you kind of feel like, you know, more things are more important than others, or if you wish you would have done other things. Like when you're in a stage like that, where's your mind at?

[Grandpa Ron]

That was one aspect of it. Like right now you look at death, for example. Not a big deal, probably. I mean, I have a lot of friends that I went to funeral today. And you see, and you get older and it's going to happen. So you're not really afraid of it. You know, I mean, it could happen, but you're not really afraid of it. And so I'm going to do what I'm going to do and not worry about it, but I know it's there and I'm not really afraid of it. Maybe 10 years ago, I might have been afraid of it, but after that, I watch what goes on with people and your attitudes, and I probably have more sympathy now for people than I did before and more depth in what they're doing, you know, because how am I going to be around. So I better enjoy what I see. Just the attitude is that it's just kind of different. I mean, I. I love to see you guys succeed. I mean, that's very important to me. I love to watch that. What I see happening nowadays that I like. It's wonderful. What? I don't like it. Just forget it. I'm not gonna argue about it. Just. But what I see certain things, I like it. I like it. And then you think, well, it's worth living for a while to see some of this stuff happen. You know, doesn't. It doesn't. You know, maybe a shitty attitude, but that's mine.

[Ken]

A newfound appreciation on life.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, kind of. Yeah, really. You think about all the good things in people, and I kind of found that out again. Getting back to all those comments we had about when I had cancer and prayers for Grandpa Christ, I counted 3, 500 of them on that one.

[Ken]

Yeah, it's crazy video.

[Grandpa Ron]

And you Think, God, there's a bunch of good people yet in the world. Because most people have a bad attitude of what some people are like nowadays.

[Ken]

The thing is, you just attract, like, everyone to you because of your attitude. It's so contagious. And that's why everyone just loves you. I mean, everywhere you go, you're just like the star of the room or whatever. You're. If you're in the video, you're the star of the video. And I think it just goes to your attitude because you just. You just have a very positive, happy, outgoing attitude. And everyone wants to be around that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Well, if you don't, you know, hate is a bad thing. What the hell? People are people, and you gotta live with it. So you're not gonna change them in many cases. So if you don't like them, ignore them. But the people that you're out enjoy it.

[Ken]

Something else that you do is like, if. If you were in, like, a group of people and they were all saying something negative about, like, another person, you always, like, say something positive.

[Grandpa Ron]

There's something positive about everybody.

[Ken]

Right. You know, but like, you. You, like, just don't. Don't really let the bad talk continue on. You switch the conversation to something positive.

[Grandpa Ron]

I hope so. But like I said. Yeah, you guys have really been good to me. I mean, I'm inspired. I have hell, new energy. And I could talk about doing stuff and what you guys are doing and whatever, and it gives you something to look forward to. Yeah.

[Ken]

Something new.

[Grandpa Ron]

Something new. Yeah. Something going on. What's going on now? Whatever. Stop. The old bullshit stuff that. That you want to forget about. And the negative stuff. Yeah, the negativity is bad thing. But what. There's the saying about you use less muscles to smile than you do to frown or something like that. I don't know what the hell to.

[Ken]

Do is, but yeah, that's the thing. Yeah.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Really? Yeah.

[Ken]

It's easier to smile than frown.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

It is great to live by.

[Grandpa Ron]

You guys are crazy. So that's okay.

[CJ]

Well, there we go. All right.

[Grandpa Ron]

I know you are. That's great. It's wonderful. And I, you know, things I hear about you guys and everybody I talk to, I mean, it's just like, I don't care what age they are. They just say, God, there's a bunch of nice guys. They're just good guys and just do crazy stuff. And people are happy to. I've talked to people that when watching your video since you started, for Christ's sakes. And that was like, when I was at that ball game. I bet 20, 30 people said, I've been watching Seaboy since they started.

[CJ]

Yeah, I always loved you that.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. So I said, well, great. Keep on watching. Yeah. Go back to merchandise. Wide open. Let's get some shirts. Right.

[CJ]

Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on again, Gramps.

[Grandpa Ron]

Well, hey, it's fun.

[CJ]

I always love sitting down and chatting with you and Sharon. You with the rest of the world. You know, me and CJ have. Have, you know, heard a lot of the stories, but they're still funny. Every.

[Ken]

So many more. So many more.

[CJ]

But it's been fun to get to show the world, you know, introduce the world to you.

[Grandpa Ron]

If we can do anything positive, that's all we're here for.

[CJ]

There we go. For you, too.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah, they are. Yeah. Gosh, yes. I've got some good stuff back. And I consider all the young people, you know, come up to. Hey, I'm Grandpa. I'm Grant. I'm glad you're doing beat cancer. How you doing? You're doing well? You know, I'm doing fine, thank you. I mean, kids, 18 years old, 17 years old. You know, even. Even the. We had a restaurant. One of the gals there knew it was Grandpa Ron. And so before I left, she gets her friends and they all come over, three of them, they want a picture taken and, oh, how you doing with your cancer? I'm glad you're doing well. These are four young gals that are working there. I mean, that's really nice to hear. You know, of course they stop everybody. You know, they're busy. We're busy right now taking the picture. You're gonna have to wait to be seated. I mean, but it was. It was fun.

[CJ]

America's grandpa.

[Grandpa Ron]

Yeah. Well, all right.

[Ken]

Well, thank you, guys. We'll. We'll be back next week.

[CJ]

Tuesday. Peace.

[Ken]

Peace.