Lowballing People on Facebook Marketplace, Updating Gavins Tinder Profile, & New Vs Old Truck Reliability

Summary

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Life Wide Open with CboysTV: “Lowballing People on Facebook Marketplace, Updating Gavin’s Tinder Profile, & New vs Old Truck Reliability”

Episode Date: March 18, 2025
Hosts/Guests: CJ, Ben Ross, Gavin, Dalton, Evan

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Episode Overview

This week, the CboysTV crew (CJ, Ben, Gavin, Dalton, Evan) and guest Gavin dive deep into three main themes: the wild world of lowball offers on Facebook Marketplace, Gavin’s ongoing dating misadventures (including a hilarious and semi-serious Tinder profile roast and update), and the endless debate of new versus old truck reliability. Layered with their signature banter, the episode mixes real-life stories, practical negotiation tactics, trucking complaints, and some truly offbeat relationship advice—all in the candid, buddy-movie style their fans love.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Facebook Marketplace: The Art of the Lowball

(03:02 – 11:03)

• The Negotiation Dance – Gavin details a recent three-wheeler purchase where he negotiated over the phone for 30 minutes, haggling from $3,000 down to $2,250 and a t-shirt, but ultimately paid $2,500.
  • Dalton, sarcastically: “You negotiated for 15 minutes…to still pay $2,500.” (04:58)
• Teamwork in Deals – Ben’s specialty is shooting a super lowball offer to “soften up” sellers, while others follow with a more reasonable offer that appears great by comparison.
  • Ben: “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Wayne Gretzky, Ben Ross.” (05:13)
• The Risk and Reversal Tactic – While sometimes they get blocked for offensive offers, the team rotates message senders to keep the negotiation alive.
  • CJ: “We still have like another five guys that can hit them with offers.” (05:59)
• Knowing Your Audience – Lowballing older sellers, especially for niche items (e.g., Honda Gold Wings), can backfire.
  • Gavin: “Some good old boys you don’t want to hit too hard...they’ll tell you to get the hell out.” (09:44–10:03)
• In-Person vs. Online Negotiating – Gavin claims in-person deals are softer: “Show up, become friends, toss in a t-shirt, and work it up in $50–100 increments.” (10:30–11:03)

2. The Three-Wheeler Saga & Wheelie Contest

(11:37 – 16:31)

• The Wheelie Challenge – Ben and Gavin settle the vehicle’s fate with a wheelie contest; Ben wins, despite Gavin’s practice and emotional investment.
  • Ben: “The best feeling was just seeing Gavin watch me ride his three wheeler…like, the look of defeat on Gav’s face.” (12:55–13:18)
• Sleeve Deletion Ritual – Before reclaiming three-wheeler glory, Gavin submits to having the sleeves cut off his Lululemon hoodie, a running joke about redneck fashion and “letting them breathe.” (00:40–01:31, 14:14–14:32)
• Fashion Banter & Lifestyle Contrast – The crew teases Gavin for his upscale Lululemon taste, suggesting it might be a move to attract “cleaner, high-end girls.”
  • CJ: “It makes no sense—a little fancy for an awkward redneck.” (15:13)
• Gavin’s Affinity for Three-Wheelers – An almost romantic dedication, including an international saga to find rare models and a recounting of a “toxic relationship” with dangerous rides.
  • Ben (joking about Gavin’s passion): “Wouldn’t be surprised if there was a TLC show about you married to a three-wheeler.” (17:36)

3. Truck Reliability: New vs. Old

(58:16 – 66:46)

• Attachment to Old Rigs – Gavin owns both an older and newer Cummins, admitting the old one has “so much character...that’s my baby forever.” (58:27–58:34)
• Emotional vs Financial Attachment – The guys discuss how to detach emotionally from expensive vehicles to avoid frustration when damage occurs.
  • Ben: “The less you care about anything, the better.” (60:44)
  • Gavin, to the group: “You guys are so relaxed…has definitely helped me.” (60:49)
• Truck Trouble Story – Gavin shares getting stranded by his newer truck’s “Christmas tree dash” of warning lights. After much stress—and dismissing old-school advice—an actual diesel tech finds a loose ground wire was the issue.
  • Gavin: “He gets a hammer out…next thing you know, I see the lights go on. It was a loose bolt. Just a bad ground wire.” (66:17–66:40)

4. Dating, Tinder, and Gavin’s Personal Struggles

(27:39 – 49:58)

• European Adventures & Sauna Etiquette – Gavin’s Finland trip features three-wheeler hunting, pizza for every meal, and confusion about proper nudity in Finnish saunas:
  • CJ (on sauna norms): “That is like such a sign of weakness…everyone else is hopping in nude and you’re in trunks.” (21:16)
• Gavin’s Love Life: STD Scare & Drought – The gang pranks Gavin with a fake STD scare, leading to a surprisingly candid chat about sexual health, dating dry spells, and performance anxieties, including “prolonging the situation,” and unorthodox advice like “less motion, more friction.”
  • Gavin (about struggling in bed): “I’ve been off the wagon for a little bit, you know…not in the motion right now.” (32:29)
  • CJ (offering help): “Less motion, Gav. Try for more friction.” (67:09)
• Tinder Roasting & Profile Optimization – The group scrutinizes Gavin’s Tinder, suggesting it reveals little of his real personality/passions (“no three-wheeler pics!”). Hilarity ensues as they plan to revamp his approach.
  • Ben: “You don’t care if they know about three wheelers? You said earlier, 'If she doesn’t like three wheelers, I don’t even give her the chance.'” (48:51–48:54)
  • CJ (joking): “Let’s just screenshot Gavin’s profile and put it up. We need to optimize!” (47:10)

5. Behind the Scenes, Business, and YouTube Philosophy

(56:49 – 62:10)

• Breaking Stuff Is an Occupational Hazard – The team laughs off costly mistakes (scratching the G Wagon on CBD, running over a $7,000 machine), justifying them as “the cost of content.”
  • CJ: “You might as well just laugh and move on.” (62:30)
• Making Lemons into Lemonade – Because their accidents/fails are caught on video, they can lean into the humor and make even disasters worth it as content.
  • Ben: “That’s the beautiful position of being a YouTuber: you can make lemonade out of shitty lemons.” (62:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On Negotiation:

  • “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Wayne Gretzky, Ben Ross.” – Ben Ross (05:13)
  • “Some good old boys you don’t want to hit too hard...they’ll tell you to get the hell out.” – Gavin (09:44)

• On Vehicles & Life Philosophy:

  • "The less you care about anything, the better." – Ben Ross (60:44)
  • “That’s the beautiful position of being a YouTuber: you can kind of make lemonade out of shitty lemons.” – Ben Ross (62:24)

• On Tinder and Personal Branding:

  • “If she doesn’t like three wheelers, I don’t even give her the chance.” – Gavin (48:51)
  • “Let’s screenshot Gavin’s profile and put it up!” – CJ (47:10)
  • “We need to optimize your Tinder profile to set you up for success.” – Ben Ross (47:17)

• On Relationship Struggles/Performance:

  • “Less motion, Gav. Try to just…more friction.” – CJ (67:09)
  • “In bed, I’ve been off the wagon for a bit…not in the motion right now.” – Gavin (32:29)

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Funniest/Memorable Segment Timestamps

• 00:40 – 01:31: Crew “deletes” Gavin’s shirt sleeves live on the podcast.
• 12:56 – 13:18: Ben rubs his three-wheeler contest win in Gavin’s face.
• 21:16 – 21:27: The crew grills Gavin for wearing trunks in a Finnish sauna.
• 32:29 – 34:09: Gavin sheepishly admits to sexual performance issues; the team both sympathizes and laughs.
• 47:10 – 48:54: The group takes over Gavin’s Tinder and plans a bio rebranding session.
• 58:16 – 60:44: Old vs. new truck reliability and the art of not caring (too much) about breakage/loss.
• 66:17 – 66:40: Gavin’s “nightmare” new truck crisis is solved by a single loose bolt.

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Tone & Style Highlights

• Candid, irreverent banter: The guys don’t hold back in their critiques of each other’s lifestyles, dating choices, or negotiation tactics; there’s much ribbing and a lot of laughter.
• Mixed expertise and self-deprecation: They give genuinely solid advice (about negotiation, emotional detachment, and truck troubleshooting), but never stop poking fun at themselves for their ongoing mishaps.
• Running gags: Cutting off sleeves, “kicking people in the nuts” on marketplace, Tinder “optimizations,” and Gavin’s lifelong relationship with perilous three-wheelers.

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Transcript

[Ben Ross]

I've been blocked by so many people trying to buy things for you, most.

[Gavin]

Of the time I can't even bring it up, dude. It's a personal problem.

[CJ]

Really? Scratch the whole roof.

[Gavin]

No.

[CJ]

Yeah. Of my matte black G wagon.

[Gavin]

I could give a good kick in the nuts.

[Ben Ross]

Can you?

[Gavin]

100%.

[CJ]

So technically you're maybe more of a caveman genetically inclined. Would you be up for another round of speed dating?

[Dalton]

Why are you wearing sleeves right now?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, what's up with that, Gav?

[Gavin]

Cold out, man. It's chilly out.

[CJ]

Are you gonna delete them or am.

[Dalton]

I gonna have to do it for you?

[Gavin]

Cut them off.

[Dalton]

Actually, I'm not gonna be able to do this if you're wearing sleeves.

[Gavin]

Should I change real fast?

[Ben Ross]

No, no, just get rid of those.

[Gavin]

You guys being serious?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

You want to cut them?

[Evan]

We can get you new ones. Yeah, new hoodies like that.

[Dalton]

What kind is it?

[Ben Ross]

Ken, can you get some scissors?

[Gavin]

Oh, you're being real? 100%. We're cutting them.

[Ben Ross]

We're making Evan uncomfortable. Oh, God.

[Dalton]

Just put a nice cut here.

[Evan]

Oh, my God.

[Dalton]

Rip it. Rest away with your hand.

[Gavin]

Dude, I actually. This is like my favorite hoodie.

[Dalton]

That's too bad.

[Gavin]

Are you being dead ass?

[Evan]

We actually do.

[CJ]

The problem is we have Ken doing this, and Ken doesn't have. This is not nest or touch.

[Evan]

And he's got a sharp with the knife. Just all the way out. Oh, jeez. Now it's flying around the room.

[CJ]

He's going to end up stabbing G below the seam.

[Dalton]

You did it above the seam.

[Gavin]

You got to go on the seam. On the seam and.

[Ben Ross]

And cut towards your buddy, not your body, bro.

[Gavin]

Please be careful, Ken.

[CJ]

Yeah, even when Gavin hops on a podcast, you only gotta do just a little.

[Dalton]

Now give it a good rip.

[Gavin]

Just go for it.

[CJ]

Here we go.

[Gavin]

Go for it, Ken.

[CJ]

Yep.

[Gavin]

Gotta let him breathe.

[Ben Ross]

Yes, sir, baby.

[Gavin]

Oh, man, I feel good.

[CJ]

You do look a lot better with your sleeves cut, dude.

[Gavin]

Thanks, Siege. You're the man. All right, one more.

[Evan]

Wow, it does look good.

[CJ]

If that was your tattoos, it really just fits.

[Gavin]

Thank you.

[Dalton]

If that was already your favorite sweater, what is it now?

[Gavin]

Not. Oh, really? My favorite now?

[Dalton]

Dude, it works out. Cause look, you got rice all over your sleeve now. You don't even have to deal with it.

[CJ]

Don't have to wash it now.

[Gavin]

Sleeve delete.

[Dalton]

Oh.

[Gavin]

Oh, baby. Come on, Ken. Oh, this bad tear.

[Ben Ross]

Ken, what are you doing? Ken is about the last guy I'd want.

[Gavin]

Yeah, I'm pretty scared right now.

[Ben Ross]

Crawling around with A razor blade that close to my arm.

[Evan]

There you go.

[Gavin]

Let's go, Ken. Yep, yep, yep.

[Ben Ross]

Ken, just pull it. This is. I feel like. Oh, Ken.

[Evan]

Oh, no.

[CJ]

What are you doing? It's a toga or whatever it is.

[Ben Ross]

Looks like a gym tarp.

[Dalton]

Now you really kind of ruined a good thing there.

[Gavin]

Come on, Ken. Just tear and go, tear and go. Oh.

[Ben Ross]

Well, Gav, I hope you didn't like that sweatshirt.

[Gavin]

I loved it. It was my favorite.

[Evan]

Well, you can go get yourself a new [e-mail]. yeah, only a couple more weeks left in that Raptor giveaway.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. So, really, we just did you a favor.

[Gavin]

Thanks, fellas.

[Dalton]

That's actually pretty good.

[Ben Ross]

That's all right. It looks good, Gav.

[Gavin]

Ready to party.

[Ben Ross]

Welcome to the Life Wide Open podcast with the boys and our friend Gavin.

[Gavin]

Thank you, fellas.

[Ben Ross]

Now that the sleeves are off, that seemed to be, like, kind of the trick to make the magic happen this morning, too. It's like sleeves just restrict you, you.

[Gavin]

Know, you just can't be a free redneck if you're wearing sleeves all day. So how to delete them? Let's talk about this morning.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, so I showed up to the shop. Well, actually, I got a call from Gavin last night, and he said, hey, can you go to the bank in the morning and get some cash, and then I'll venmo you? But I have this guy coming with a three wheeler. I was like, okay, go figure. And I need to pay him. I was like, all right, yeah, yeah, I can go. And I was like, well, I don't know. Maybe let's work out a deal here. Let's. Let's make something. Something happen. Maybe we buy the three wheeler and we work something out.

[Gavin]

Which I didn't like. I didn't like that idea to start.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, he did not like that. Like, he was like, I already put in the groundwork of getting this three wheeler here, and now you're trying to swoop it out from underneath me, Right? And so I was like, all right, all right, that's fair.

[Evan]

Wait, did you negotiate?

[Gavin]

You got it down 100%, dude. I negotiated for about 30 minutes on the car ride home last night. Actually, Evan listened to the whole thing. How'd I do?

[Dalton]

Gav starts by telling me I got this wheeler for two grand being delivered. He tells me before he makes the.

[Gavin]

Phone call, I didn't get it for two grand.

[Dalton]

Turns out, I don't even think you had talked to the guy yet. He already had it locked in for a thousand less Than asking. So right away, he's hitting him with the 2000. 2000 in a T shirt. Hasn't even asked about delivery yet. The guy's just saying hard no on the 2000. Then it's 21, then it's 2150, then it's 22. I can't hear what the guy's saying on the other side of the phone. You're like 22.50 cash and a T shirt, and you have to deliver it. And do you accept Venmo?

[Gavin]

So it's like, did he know who.

[Evan]

He was talking to? Like, did he know that you're the. That, like, you're so desperate for a three wheeler that you pay anything?

[Gavin]

Oh, he knew I was going to.

[Dalton]

Pay five grand if I had 2250 cash. Do you accept Venmo?

[Gavin]

He said no.

[Evan]

As someone who does not negotiate, that had to just pain you the whole way through.

[Dalton]

Well, I would have just met in the middle from the two grand to the three grand. And he said 2500 right away. And then Gavin rattled for 15 minutes to still pay 2500.

[Evan]

Skipped all the steps.

[Ben Ross]

Ev's a big non negotiator guy.

[Dalton]

That's not true. Through it all.

[Ben Ross]

Absolutely hates a good kick in the.

[Dalton]

I'm not a message a random person for 3,000 less than asking price kind of guy.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, but I mean, you never know.

[Evan]

Where it might is Ben's specialty.

[Ben Ross]

Well, you miss 100 of the shots that you don't take.

[Gavin]

Damn right.

[Ben Ross]

Wayne Gretzky, Ben Ross.

[Dalton]

How many of those low, low ball offers have been accepted?

[CJ]

So many.

[Ben Ross]

95% of them. We make a deal.

[Evan]

Yeah, because they block you. And then we message them and come in at a reasonable price and make the deal.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, but a reasonable price then comes in looking like a freaking superhero offer.

[Evan]

Yeah, True reverse psychology.

[Ben Ross]

I don't know. I just. I'm just saying, like, we have bought so much stuff off Facebook marketplace, Like, we're making like, a deal happen every week. So say 52 deals a year, Some.

[Evan]

Serious coin to be saved.

[Ben Ross]

It adds up, right? I mean, what's the worst that happens? Like, they're insulted and they block you. Yes, but sometimes that happens. And then I send one of you guys in, and then when we come.

[CJ]

In and we go a little lower, we still have like another five guys that can hit them with some offers. But, like, even if you offered just a reasonable thing less, they might stick to their guns and be like, no, I'm. I want full asking. But then when you follow up and do a reasonable offer, and they're like, I was just talking to this guy that wanted to give me three grand less. This is. This is a lot better. They end up taking it.

[Evan]

There you go.

[CJ]

If they don't know who we are.

[Ben Ross]

And all I'm saying is, a lot of times people that are posting stuff on Facebook, Marketplace, they're not trying to give a good price off the rip, but they are trying to sell it, because that's why they have it listed 100%.

[CJ]

So also just.

[Ben Ross]

They're usually trying to sell it, and especially if you hit them with like, I'll pick it up tomorrow. Cash.

[Gavin]

Cash money.

[Ben Ross]

That goes far, too.

[CJ]

Nobody puts the listing price as exactly what they're hoping to get. You always put it a little high because you assume people are going to come in and offer you less. It's just like going to the car dealership. You don't just walk in and just go, okay, the sticker says 50,000. All right, here's 50,000. You're like, what can you do?

[Evan]

Oh, shoot, I thought you walked in. They said sticker was 50. And he went, all right, I'll give you 55.

[CJ]

Well, some of us. Some of us here do that. But, you know, that's just how negotiating works.

[Dalton]

We do. It's a little different, too, where we're just messaging people and we're not actually looking at.

[Gavin]

Well, that's the problem.

[Dalton]

It's way different. Like, I look to, like, if it's something that I actually want to buy, I will not even negotiate price until I'm there.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

And I feel like they might be saying no on Marketplace, but they're going to take it when you're there in person with cash in a truck ready to go.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

So that. That can go that way, too. But sometimes it doesn't with. With us, though, is like, if I'm messaging somebody, you know, one of. One of our helping hands, one of the guys will go and pick it up. Right. And I don't fully expect them to be doing, like, the negotiating or kicking them in the balls. And. And, yeah. So I'm a big kick him in the nuts kind of guy. Evan is like, give them 200 bucks more than they're asking.

[Dalton]

No, I'm a not negotiate on marketplace kind of guy is what I am, I guess.

[Ben Ross]

But I don't know. I think there is something to be said, too, about not negotiating until you're in person. Because usually they're just like, ah, it's just easier just to. I've Already gone through all this time.

[Dalton]

And I hate when people do it to me. Like when people start making offers, I'm like, come look at it and make me an offer. I hate playing the game. Cuz how many people you'll tell them, all right, you know what, I accept your offer. You meet in the middle and then they go, oh, I, I was just seeing what you wanted for it. And then, I don't know, it's just annoying. It's a waste of time.

[CJ]

The other thing though is like when you want something, let's say you're looking at something personal that you're buying, you wouldn't probably message them if they were way out of line on the price. Oftentimes we're scouring and we need one thing and there's only maybe two for sale and the guy is way out of line on the price. Yeah. So like if it was just a personal thing for pleasure, you just wouldn't even bother talking to the guy. But it's like he's, he's so high. We got to see if we can actually do a reasonable offer.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

So like you do have to a.

[Evan]

Low mile or like a reasonably priced, reasonably specked Honda Gold Wing trike. There's like fricking three of them for sale in Minnesota. You got to, you got to search.

[CJ]

And you're buying it for yourself. You just wouldn't, you'd be like, this guy's out of line on the price. I'm not even going to, we're probably not going to make a deal. I'm not even going to bother looking at it or talking to them. So that's why we do have to kick people in the nuts sometimes.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. You know your clientele though, when you're, when you're trying to buy a Honda Gold Wing, you usually know like what those people look like. And they, they do not take kindly to kicking the nuts. Offer. We found that out.

[CJ]

We have.

[Ben Ross]

Like, I've been blocked by so many people trying to buy things for you. Most of the time of like it's the older dudes. Yeah. Just like when I throw them an offer, they are offended and they are.

[Gavin]

Just, you got to be careful sometimes, man. That goes along with negotiating in person. I mean, you want to do it in person for the most part. But be careful about who you're treading on because there's some good old boys you don't want to hit too hard with A low number.

[Evan]

I'll tell you that farm and be like, I'll give you a thousand Dollars less than you're asking. You'd be like, get the off my property.

[Gavin]

Had that happen. Dude. They're like, dude, get the hell out of here. And then I'm like, okay, that was 500 more sound. Then we start warming up to them.

[CJ]

You know, you got to feel it out.

[Ben Ross]

Gav's actually pretty good at negotiating. Besides, for this last deal, it sounds.

[Gavin]

Like it was on the phone.

[Dalton]

I wish I would. I wish I would have just filmed it yesterday.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, but you're. You're normally pretty good at finding good.

[Gavin]

Deals, better ones out there.

[Ben Ross]

Really?

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

I mean, that's a pretty heavy statement.

[Gavin]

I could give a good kick in the nuts.

[Ben Ross]

Can you?

[Gavin]

Oh, 100.

[Ben Ross]

But you're a big in person guy.

[Gavin]

Big in person. Only in person, man. You show up and then become friends with them. Like, I'm friendly with everybody, but just start talking, get the vibes flowing.

[Dalton]

So is it a false friendship?

[Gavin]

No, it's not false at all. Because most likely we can get a beer afterwards.

[Ben Ross]

Unless you really.

[Gavin]

Unless I really kick him out through the cold. Yeah, normally that happens. So then just warm it up a little bit. Start throwing an offer that he doesn't take that offer. All right, I got a T shirt in the back of the truck. Always keep two extra T shirts, medium and a large, because those fit pretty much anybody. And just hope they take it from there and then slowly work your way up. Fifty dollars. A hundred dollars. Just keep kicking them, and normally they'll take it at some point.

[Evan]

You got skinny rednecks in Colorado? We're in a large XL crowd around here.

[CJ]

Imagine this guy who's like, never even heard of Gavin. He's like, hey, listen, I'll throw you in one of my T shirts. I don't want your T shirt, bro.

[Evan]

He's like, it says three wheelers. I'm selling mine like I'm out of the game.

[Gavin]

Right? 100. Yup. Three wheelers.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. Yeah. Nope.

[Evan]

Tread80.com.

[Ben Ross]

Nope. Three wheelers.

[CJ]

So we should sell. Nope. Four wheeler shirts. That'd be funny.

[Gavin]

Really good on.

[CJ]

Nope.

[Gavin]

Four wheelers.

[Evan]

Nope. What happened with this Facebook marketplace deal? Because I just got there when it showed up this morning. So we. We got sidetracked. What happened?

[Gavin]

Yeah, so keep going, Ben.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, I mean, Gavin basically asked me to grab the cash, and I was like, yeah, for sure. So I get the cash, show up. Gavin's already doing the deal. Right. He had just everything set in place, except for he didn't have the money. Right.

[Gavin]

Missing the key component.

[Ben Ross]

So I came In. I gave Gav the money. He bought it. And he was like, all right, I'll venmo you. And I was like, well, let's maybe work out a deal. Let's maybe work something, make something happen, right? I mean, it'll be in gas video. But Evan was like, you guys should do a wheelie contest. And we did it on, yeah, Stark.

[Gavin]

Quad, which I'd been practicing for all freaking morning for an hour straight.

[Ben Ross]

Gavin just put in a full shift, right? And I hopped on there cold wheelied across the parking lot, and it was like a time thing. And then Gav hopped on and set it down after like, a second and a half. It was so bad.

[Gavin]

It was terrible.

[Dalton]

You did 16, he did two and a half.

[Ben Ross]

So seconds. So basically, whoever. Whoever won the wheelie contest retained ownership of three wheeler.

[Gavin]

Correct.

[Ben Ross]

So after I won it, I. I won the three wheeler that I bought. And it just felt good. Like, you know, Gavin put in all the hard work of. Of finding this three wheeler. And then what? I thought negotiating a good deal, Evan might argue that. And then, yeah, I came and swooped it out and, like, man, it hurt.

[Gavin]

My feelings actually, too.

[Ben Ross]

Like, the best feeling was just seeing Gavin watch. Watching me ride his three wheeler around and, like, knowing that he would have been, like, doing all of his extra, like, movements on it, like, oh, yeah, like. Like hollering. And, you know, when I was riding it, Gavin was like, what do you think? And I was like, kind of sucks. And just like, the look of defeat on Gav's face, like, just a straw man.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

When you didn't get it started on the first pole, he couldn't keep his hands off the wheeler. He's trying to push you out of the way. He just wanted to rip that.

[Gavin]

Call me a three wheeler cut guy. I just want to share the one with that.

[CJ]

You know what you should really do to just rub it. Gavin's face is. Is tonight we have that big pile of pallets that need to be burned.

[Ben Ross]

Burn it.

[Evan]

Oh, my God.

[CJ]

You know, start. See. See how. How long it takes for the three.

[Dalton]

You're getting ahead of yourself.

[CJ]

What am I what?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, so. So I was riding it around, and Gavin was just, like, beside himself that he just lost this deal. I think he was like, well, let's go double or nothing. Like, whoever can wheelie the three wheeler longer. And, you know, that's when I should have just take the three wheeler and rode off into the sunset. But I was trying to be a nice guy, so I let him fight.

[Evan]

For it can't quit while you're on a heater.

[Ben Ross]

Right.

[Evan]

While you're winning.

[Ben Ross]

You can't. Yeah. So, yeah, we did the same contest on a. On a three wheeler. And who would have thought the three wheeler guy won?

[Gavin]

Well, we had to take off the sleeves first. Don't forget that.

[Ben Ross]

And that's. That's when Gavin said, oh, I know what the problem is, and he took his Lululemon off. He took his what? Red. What? Rednecks wearing Lululemon.

[Gavin]

Trying to be comfy this morning, man. I knew I was making a deal.

[Dalton]

It was 14 degrees. Mind you, when Gavin's pulling the sleeves off.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

What's cool got to be done, man.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, so he dropped the Lululemon, which I know was hard for you.

[Gavin]

Chill.

[Dalton]

Why do you love Lulu?

[CJ]

Yeah. I don't not understand that, man. Just seems. I actually know why it seems so off brand. It just seems so off brand, like it makes no sense.

[Dalton]

You know what he told me this morning? Ev, if you lived right next to a Lululemon, you'd be buying it too.

[Ben Ross]

Well, you're kind of showing your cards there. I thought you lived in the country tree.

[Gavin]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Dalton]

How many double wise are next to the Lulu outlet store?

[Gavin]

I'm like 20 minutes from the outlet. So that's what I was telling them. I get them for half price. So that shirt was like what, 20 bucks? Super cheap.

[Dalton]

40 this morning.

[Gavin]

Okay, maybe 40.

[Ben Ross]

But still super cheap going down.

[Gavin]

Yeah, I don't know, man. It's just comfy clothes. I look good.

[CJ]

I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that. I don't know. Yeah, it just seems. Seems kind of fancy for kind of awkward redneck like yourself. It just seems kind of fancy. I think you look good in it, you know, I mean, it is a good combo with like the dirty jeans and stuff.

[Gavin]

No, I think I'm gonna just start cutting the sleeves. You know, I got some Lulu sweats. Just start making them half sweats.

[CJ]

It maybe helps with getting like some cleaner high end girls, I'm sure.

[Gavin]

Well, dude. Yeah. Run down these redneck chicks all the time. They're getting too heavy. They're eating McDonald's constantly.

[CJ]

You know, I want somebody you're trying to get some. Some maybe more fit, you know, just.

[Gavin]

Eating Jimmy John's once a week instead of McDonald's. He's a little bit healthier.

[CJ]

There we go. Medium fast food instead of fast food.

[Gavin]

Exactly, exactly.

[Ben Ross]

So anyway, I want. I want the chance to win this three wheeler back. I don't think it's done. This is just the beginning of it.

[Gavin]

I think so too, but you're not winning it back.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. So we're going to have to figure out what exactly that looks like. The four wheeler was middle grounds for me and Gav. You know, I don't ride four wheeler. Gavin rides three wheelers, so that made sense. But the three wheeler competition, I feel like it's kind of unfair.

[Gavin]

Right.

[Ben Ross]

So I think we got to work something else.

[Dalton]

A dirt bike.

[Ben Ross]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Gavin]

No, no, that's. I'm at a big disadvantage there. Really big.

[Ben Ross]

I mean, I ran it on a three wheeler in your home turf.

[Dalton]

You get 20 minutes warm up.

[Gavin]

Still not good, dude. I'm just not comfortable on two wheels.

[Evan]

I think a pit bike maybe.

[Gavin]

Still not even a pit bike. I mean, 100. I'm scared shitless on a pit bike.

[Evan]

Papio.

[Gavin]

Not even a Papio. You saw how the papia went in Vegas.

[Ben Ross]

I'm not sure that you're comfortable on three wheels.

[Gavin]

I am comfortable on three wheels, I'll tell you that.

[Ben Ross]

I think the crash reel would say otherwise.

[Gavin]

I'm getting there. I mean, just tuck and roll and just have fun. That's all it's about. I'm not trying to be the best rider ever.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. I don't think anyone has ever liked stuck with riding three wheelers as much as you have. Like, usually when you. When back in the 80s, when someone would get, you know, eaten up by a three wheeler, they'd probably just like wash their hands of it and be like, you know, I'm gonna maybe just move on from this. But you've done that so many times and just stuck with it. Like, it's such a toxic relationship at this point.

[Gavin]

But I'm just in love, man. There's something about being on three wheels, taking the fall and just being like, oh, baby, I'm still alive. Let's keep having fun.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. And we still haven't gotten to the bottom of why you think that. Like, every single time we ask, like, why three wheelers? You always just say, oh, it's just. I'm just in love with them, man. I just eat. I can eat the fall and like, I just keep going.

[Dalton]

It's a really skater mentality. Like, I think skateboarders enjoy the battle and they beat themselves up just to get the trick at the end of the day.

[Ben Ross]

But you, you genuinely love three wheelers 100%. Like, it's like, to a point of like, I wouldn't be surprised if there was like A TLC show about you married to a three wheeler where you had like sexual relations with it.

[CJ]

The tailpipe?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, yeah. Like it's to that point when you.

[Gavin]

Guys got me that 250R, I did look at it funny a couple times that first night. Oh, 100. Man, I was looking at that pipe.

[CJ]

Those two stroke pipes are pretty tight, dude.

[Gavin]

They were. That's what I was thinking.

[Dalton]

Is that an fmf?

[Gavin]

Is that an fff? Even tighter. But no, seriously, something about it did. When I saw my first three wheeler, I'd always heard about them from my dad growing up. Never had one, never even saw one until I was 18 on Facebook marketplace. And then when I pulled up to the trailer park, it seriously made me feel like I was a kid at home. Dude.

[Evan]

Really? That was your first time really seeing one in person? Were you trying to buy one or you just. You were going through Facebook Marketplace and you were like, this speaks to me.

[Gavin]

Well, dude, I mean I was kind of scrolling through, I've been typing in three wheelers.

[Evan]

Were you looking for four wheelers? Dirt bikes?

[Gavin]

I mean I would have bought in a good price price four wheeler, but there wasn't a good.

[Ben Ross]

Can you imagine how much different your life would be?

[Gavin]

I don't think we'd be here.

[Ben Ross]

No, we wouldn't, we wouldn't, we wouldn't. And like how much stuff you've done, like three wheelers have taken you so.

[Gavin]

Many places, like literally across the world at this point, man, it's pretty wild.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You went to Finland.

[Gavin]

Freaking Finland. I mean, yeah. Hopping my ass on a 16 hour flight to meet some dudes I don't know, looking for a three wheeler.

[Ben Ross]

Just because they have a three wheeled vehicle in their garage. You're like, I gotta get me some of that.

[Gavin]

Gotta go see what's up with that.

[CJ]

It.

[Gavin]

Chasing it down, man.

[CJ]

I think my favorite part about the Finland, I guess you did two videos was the second one when you're at the store and the worker sitting there and you just start asking him if he's ever seen a three wheel. He's like, oh yeah, like my buddy has one in his garage. And then it just cuts to like that night you're driving in a car, going so far to go just see a three. I'm like, whoa, you haven't seen enough already?

[Gavin]

Like it was the best thing ever.

[CJ]

It's just hilarious. I thought, yeah.

[Gavin]

So he's walking to this convenience store, start talking to this guy and he's like, yeah, I actually have a family worker that has a 250, 50R sitting in the barn and so I got his phone number. An hour and a half later, it's dark out. We are pulling up to this dude's house and he's just driving a little freaking normal car. He has a trailer hooked up, 250R on the back. I couldn't believe it, man. Couldn't believe it. Proper looking rig, good compression. All we had to do was new throttle cable, new gas tank and she was ready to roll.

[Ben Ross]

Thank God it was.

[Gavin]

She had a seat. No plastics, but no.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, thank God it wasn't much more than that. Otherwise it might have been past your. Seriously capabilities, right?

[Gavin]

No, but it was a.

[Ben Ross]

That is usually most. Mostly all they need is just a little. Little tinkering though.

[Gavin]

Little tinkering here and there. Make sure the wires are plugged in. As you guys saw with Mike's moped. All you have to do every once in a while with old Hondas and just unplug the red and black and you're good to party, man.

[Evan]

The trust that three wheeler guys have in each other, you know, you're just like. You strike up a conversation and then off into the woods you go, oh, what was Finland like? What were the people like?

[Gavin]

Finland was awesome, man. Some of the nicest people in the world. They're apparently it's the happiest country in the world. I think that.

[CJ]

I believe it.

[Gavin]

Something to do with all the saunas they have there. They're sauning every night.

[CJ]

Really?

[Gavin]

Oh, 100.

[CJ]

Yeah. What's up with that? Why do they like sauna so much? I mean, I like sauning, but just.

[Gavin]

A huge part of their culture, man. I mean, a lot of big business deals in Finland have been done in Asana, apparently.

[Evan]

Really?

[Gavin]

What? Something about sitting there. Cuz in Finland, in all of Europe, they're pretty much naked every time you're in a sauna. So something vulnerable and you're just being able to, you know, be fully open with the person. You're already showing everything. Might as well tell them everything.

[CJ]

Did you rip a couple saunas there?

[Gavin]

Ripped a couple saunas.

[CJ]

Fully nude, not nude.

[Gavin]

What?

[CJ]

Really, bro, that is like such a sign of weakness when everyone else is hopping in the sauna nude and you're in some swim trunks. That is such a sign of weakness.

[Gavin]

The first one in there, so they all came in.

[Ben Ross]

That's like.

[Gavin]

That's like being done with a football.

[CJ]

Game in high school. Everyone's hitting the showers and you hopping in some swim trunks. Like, what are you doing?

[Gavin]

What are you doing, man?

[Ben Ross]

Did they feel like you were.

[Evan]

You were.

[CJ]

They had it in like, man, this guy's got. Must have a tiny bit.

[Gavin]

I thought. I thought you had to.

[CJ]

Wheeler guy. What else could you be hiding?

[Gavin]

I mean, I'm just nervous, man. About what? It shrinks up even more. That's really not good. And then what?

[CJ]

I mean, it shouldn't matter if you. If you're.

[Gavin]

If you're packing.

[CJ]

It's just the boys. Did you.

[Ben Ross]

Did you feel like they were judging you?

[Gavin]

No, because I would be, bro.

[CJ]

If I was naked in a sauna and there was three of us naked, and then one other dude hops in with swim trunks. I'm like, all right, well, this is. Now you're the odd man out here.

[Gavin]

Thankfully, I got in first. Initiating that.

[CJ]

Oh, that's good.

[Gavin]

That's good, everyone uncomfortable.

[Ben Ross]

Isn't it like a big thing to go cold plunge after the sauna?

[Gavin]

Exactly. Which is exactly what we did when.

[Ben Ross]

When you did that. I bet you like, oh, thank God I'm wearing.

[Gavin]

Yeah. I'm not running out there naked then, dude. Holy. No, thank you, man.

[Evan]

Yeah, we should start running business deals. Business meetings in the sauna naked. It would probably shorten them up. Dude, some of our meetings are getting freaking five hours long.

[Ben Ross]

Our sauna somehow just turned into like a recycling bin. Last time I. I went in there, there was like 45 empty cans.

[CJ]

Tony's. Exactly.

[Dalton]

I don't know when that happened.

[CJ]

Alcoholics.

[Dalton]

Every night that I've been here, it.

[Ben Ross]

Was probably a month ago.

[Evan]

I looked in there. I saw two 5 gallon buckets full of crushed up cans. And then also probably like another 10 to 20 just kind of laying on the floor.

[CJ]

Dude, I just came about what I saw.

[Dalton]

Talking about the sauna that's next to the hot tub.

[CJ]

Yeah, I've seen.

[Dalton]

I've never seen any of what you guys.

[Gavin]

What? Yeah.

[CJ]

You're the only one who uses it.

[Gavin]

I know.

[Dalton]

That's what I'm so confused about.

[CJ]

Dalton picked it up, I think, because.

[Ben Ross]

Cleaned it because he.

[CJ]

He rips them with you every now and then too. Dude, I just can't believe.

[Gavin]

Let's not talk about I just can't.

[CJ]

Believe you're drinking alcohol in a sauna.

[Evan]

Like, that's like the first rule.

[Gavin]

Like, it's like.

[CJ]

Well, it's one thing for it to be a rule, but like when I'm in a sauna and it's ripping, the last thing I'm trying to do is drink some alcohol. You're you're thirsty for water.

[Dalton]

Different kind of person, clearly.

[CJ]

Clearly. I just.

[Ben Ross]

It's crazy.

[Evan]

Does it hit harder, Ev?

[CJ]

For sure. You got to be so dehydrated. It'd be like, you know, if you're.

[Dalton]

Drinking in a hot, ice cold Coors, just. Oh my God. When it's about.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

I can't even get the words out. That's how good it is when it's so hot in there, so crisp.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. I don't know, it just seems like. What's the point of like ripping a sauna if you're ripping it for like health benefits?

[CJ]

He's ripping it because it feels good.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

I don't. What health benefits do you think you get from it? Little blood flow or whatever.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[CJ]

I don't know.

[Dalton]

I mean, I think it just gets detox. Clean. It just feels detox. It really cleans your skin out and everything. And it's really good to shave. Like shaving after a sauna before you.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, it opens up your pores.

[Dalton]

So. I mean, I don't think the beer affects that at all.

[CJ]

I'm not trying to change your life. Keep doing it.

[Ben Ross]

No, I was just. I was just more along the lines of stating that it looked like a recycling bin in there.

[Dalton]

I don't know where that came from. Was me.

[Evan]

I haven't been in that sucker.

[CJ]

Weren't you the one who just said drinking an ice cold Coors in the sauna, there's nothing better. I don't know how the empty beer cans are in the sauna.

[Dalton]

Two five gallon buckets of cans in the sun. Just doesn't make any sense.

[Ben Ross]

That's legit what I saw too.

[Dalton]

Like I could see.

[Evan]

See.

[Dalton]

Maybe I would have left one or two camps.

[CJ]

Yeah, but then you come back the next day and you leave one or two. Cuz you don't really pick up one or two weeks. We had like a bunch of guests around.

[Evan]

Maybe it was one of the guests. I'm just not that big on saunas. Why? I don't know, like it's fun with the guys and whatnot.

[Ben Ross]

It's because you're ripping the red light.

[Gavin]

Don't rip the red light.

[Evan]

No, I have the infrared.

[Ben Ross]

Not the red light or the infra infrared. Like something about a steam song. Yeah, it's so much infrared.

[CJ]

You got to sit in for so much longer too.

[Evan]

Yeah, it's just not as fun.

[Ben Ross]

What else? Well, I don't enjoy cold plunges, Ryan.

[Evan]

Oh yeah?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[CJ]

I don't know if anyone does. No, I know you feel Good. At the end, you're like, you feel accomplished.

[Ben Ross]

I feel worse. I feel terrible. Yeah.

[Gavin]

What else is going on there, dude? So the first five minutes into being there, like you just asked. Well, freaking vaulter hops on the drift track. This didn't even make the video.

[Evan]

His name Walter, or vault with a.

[Gavin]

V. First five minutes into being there, he's like, hey, you want to try it out? I was like, yeah, you should try it out first. This didn't even make my video. This dude comes in, throws the nastiest 360, almost hits his van.

[Ben Ross]

You put that in the video?

[Gavin]

Yeah, Back around and his whole face is just gassed right here. Yeah. You took a handlebar straight to the face.

[Evan]

Oh.

[Dalton]

Cut him open.

[Gavin]

Oh. Pretty bad too. Almost had to go get stitches. I didn't want to put it in just because it was so bloody. Pretty bad. But yeah, that's what happened. Five minutes in, put the band aid on. It was just a straight up adventure from there. Turns out the food there is so. So, I mean, they kind of eat normal food like us first night there, we went and had Asian food that was kind of cool. Had a good Asian beer.

[Evan]

Really? Asian food. Is there Asians up there or is it like going to Afton and then they serve you Mexican, but there's not another Mexican in.

[Gavin]

I mean, the guy serving us was Asian, but that's about it.

[Evan]

Okay.

[Gavin]

And then after that, we went back to the Airbnb. On the way, stopped and picked up pizza from his sister. Cuz his sister had leftover pizza.

[Dalton]

You got pizza on the way home from dinner.

[Gavin]

So after that, ate some pizza after the sauna, yada, yada, yada. Proceed to have pizza for the next three meals the next day. So had pizza the whole next day. It was a great thing. Yeah. And just went from there, man. Met up with stunt freaks teams. You guys.

[Evan]

Those guys are sick.

[Gavin]

Oh my gosh.

[Evan]

They have sick stuff.

[Gavin]

Freaking everybody over there. So nice. They're so kind and it's just cool being able to go over and see somebody else's shop like that, you know, another YouTuber in another country that's been doing it for 10 plus years. Was definitely cool to see.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, I feel like the people over there are definitely our crowd.

[Gavin]

Oh, 100%. They're big petrol heads. Lots of. Yeah, lots of fans out there even talking like them. Yeah, yeah.

[Ben Ross]

When they say petrol.

[Gavin]

I know petrol. But it's also kind of felt like the same layout to around here, man. Just flat. Lots of snow.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. I've heard that it's just like super similar to Minnesota.

[Gavin]

100%.

[Ben Ross]

I don't really know if I want to travel across the world to go and experience Minnesota.

[Gavin]

Maybe just to hang out with the people. That'd be like the biggest benefit to it.

[Evan]

There's.

[Gavin]

Yeah. Some really cool guys out there.

[Dalton]

Could zoom.

[Evan]

Call.

[Gavin]

Could do that. I was hoping to meet my wife out there. Didn't meet my wife.

[CJ]

How are the girls?

[Gavin]

Cute girls. Very cute girls. Try to hit one. Try to hit on one. Hit her. Try to hit on one in the gas station. And just didn't work out that well. I. She flirted with me for about two seconds and then she froze up and then I froze up and then she said something in English and I couldn't hear her.

[Ben Ross]

Oh, really?

[CJ]

Maybe like, stay away from me.

[Gavin]

I know it was something way nicer than that. And then I was like, what'd you say? And she was smiling. What'd you say? And I went on for like two minutes. She wouldn't tell me what the hell she said.

[CJ]

Oh, maybe said, I hate three wheelers.

[Gavin]

I hope she didn't say that.

[Ben Ross]

Would that be a deal breaker?

[Gavin]

100. I mean, you have to like, you.

[Ben Ross]

Don'T think that you could swap her over?

[Gavin]

I mean, I could try and swap her over, but no. Yeah, I'm not doing any of that four wheeler bull crap.

[Ben Ross]

So we called Gavin last podcast and well, I should say our friend Rita called Gavin and let him.

[Gavin]

Thanks Rita.

[Ben Ross]

Let him know that she was with the Minnesota Department of Health and that Gavin had been in sexual relations with a lady that had tested positive for gonorrhea and chlamydia, which I thought wasn't that bad.

[Gavin]

Evan told me gonorrhea wasn't bad, man, I thought I was kind of in the clear.

[Dalton]

I don't ever remember saying that. You said that earlier today. Well, Evan keeps telling me gonorrhea is not bad.

[Gavin]

I don't remember telling you that.

[Evan]

Imagine about the point you went, oh, that's not that bad.

[Gavin]

Well, dude, the only reason I freaking actually picked back up the phone after the first time was cuz she said it's urgent matter. I was like, do I have to? Really bad. I mean, did I get a chick pregnant? Does she have. You know, I didn't even want to know.

[Evan]

Where were you?

[Gavin]

At home in the office.

[Evan]

Okay. You were just at home? Did you stand up the fam.

[Gavin]

Oh, I was walking. I was in the shop. I was walking back and forth. I was about to call Ben, but I Was like, I don't want to call him and tell him this.

[CJ]

Whenever Gav gets in trouble or doesn't know what to do, call Ben. I just got diagnosed with an std. Better call Ben.

[Evan]

Well, no, he'll know what to do.

[Gavin]

He was in Minnesota, so I was also. Yeah, I was like, he must have heard something. I was like, can I call Ben? He probably. He's probably involved or did something.

[CJ]

Involved, maybe planted the STD or something like that.

[Gavin]

Talking. Yeah. You know what? Or do you know who?

[Ben Ross]

No, I don't.

[Gavin]

Never mind. Never mind.

[Dalton]

Who are you talking about?

[Evan]

Oh, man. God.

[Gavin]

The person that I thought might have given it to me, but nothing was given to me ever.

[CJ]

Did you go and get checked after? Have you been checked yet?

[Gavin]

No, I told you.

[CJ]

Why wouldn't you go get tested?

[Gavin]

Why would I need to.

[Dalton]

You never know.

[CJ]

You just believe that you had an std. So it's definitely a possibility.

[Gavin]

I got worried.

[CJ]

Yeah. So you think you'd maybe just be considerate of your future partners? That.

[Gavin]

But I felt.

[CJ]

Oh, you're clean.

[Gavin]

I've been feeling really good, and I.

[Evan]

Prefer to use protection, staying in the gym.

[Gavin]

And you. Yeah, stay in the gym and have fun and wrap your.

[CJ]

I might not quote that third line when I. Whenever people ask for advice, but I don't know.

[Gavin]

It works for me so far.

[Dalton]

I mean, get tested and then you'll know that it works.

[Gavin]

Yeah, well, it's still working right now.

[CJ]

I'm pretty sure. You could still maybe get it.

[Gavin]

You think so?

[CJ]

I mean, a lot of possibilities. I don't know.

[Gavin]

I don't know either, man. I've been very lucky so far. You too, huh? Don't bring me. How many condoms have you used in your life?

[Dalton]

None.

[Evan]

What were you thinking when you got that call?

[Gavin]

I was like, boys, this is not good. What? I mean, what am I gonna do? I just hooked up with a girl prior that night, right before. I'd been like. I've been on it.

[Evan]

So you lied. You lied on the phone. You said no.

[Gavin]

I mean, I was talking to Rita. I didn't know who I was actually talking to, man. I had to say no to every answer.

[Dalton]

So the first chick in two months. You said two weeks. What did you just say first?

[Gavin]

No. Yeah. First chick in two months. About two months.

[Dalton]

That must have been phenomenal for you.

[Gavin]

Let's not talk about that. Evil.

[CJ]

What happened? What do you mean?

[Gavin]

Nothing. I talked to him about it on the car ride home. What?

[CJ]

What? It sounds like it's a story. He's laughing now. You got to tell us.

[Gavin]

No, we're not talking about this.

[CJ]

You gotta.

[Gavin]

I was asking Evan for advice.

[CJ]

What kind of advice would he asking for?

[Ben Ross]

All right, all right, I gotta hear this.

[CJ]

This is.

[Gavin]

I can't even bring it up, dude. It's a personal problem.

[CJ]

Really?

[Gavin]

Really, cj, really? I'll talk to you about it later. He's got a tear in his eye because it's so bad here in his fucking eye. So bad. Isn't it bad? It sucks.

[CJ]

What. How bad of the problem is this? Can we talk about it? Maybe the viewer can. Can learn something.

[Dalton]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Give.

[Dalton]

Give the people someone to relate with.

[Gavin]

I just cannot open up to the whole world about bro. I really shouldn't.

[Ben Ross]

Why stop now?

[Gavin]

Because it's so bad. It's kind of sad.

[Dalton]

Really.

[Ben Ross]

Really?

[Gavin]

Not really. It just sucks for a guy. I mean. Yeah. I've been off the wagon for a little bit, you know. In bed.

[CJ]

Yep.

[Gavin]

I can't go any further.

[CJ]

I think I know where you. Exactly what you said. I can't go any further.

[Gavin]

Let's just stop there.

[CJ]

What was Evan's advice to you?

[Gavin]

He didn't have any. There was nothing to be said. He just kept trying to ease me along, like, oh, yeah, I don't have that problem. I go like. What about, like, early on, like, when you were like, my age? Did you have that? No, no, she was still.

[CJ]

He was fully calloused by that.

[Gavin]

Looking back on it. Any advice?

[Dalton]

You're on your own for that one.

[Gavin]

That's what I thought. Yeah. I don't know. I'll figure it out, man. Once a guy gets back into the motion.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Of the ocean, he's all right. But, yeah, not in the motion right now.

[CJ]

Maybe you're just more of like a primal. You know, because, like, if you look at it in terms of before this day and age, like, you would just be able to spread your seed faster.

[Gavin]

And not getting by, you know, we're going to.

[CJ]

So through natural selection, your genes are actually more dominant than extremely fast.

[Gavin]

Right.

[CJ]

So technically, you're maybe more of a caveman. Genetically inclined, did you say you got.

[Dalton]

Like, five times in a couple of hours?

[CJ]

That's pretty impressive.

[Evan]

That is awesome.

[CJ]

That's very impressive. That is extremely impressive. Dude.

[Ben Ross]

What?

[CJ]

What are you complaining about?

[Gavin]

What are you complaining about?

[CJ]

You're good five times in a couple of hours.

[Gavin]

I mean, with two seconds at a time, math only adds up to ten seconds. Still, bro.

[Ben Ross]

Still.

[CJ]

To be able to reload that quick is very impressive. Are you using performance Enhancing drugs for this.

[Gavin]

What? Running stock.

[CJ]

Fully stock.

[Gavin]

Fully stock.

[Dalton]

You drink much pineapple juice?

[Gavin]

No.

[Dalton]

That's good for you?

[Gavin]

No, just some Dr. Pepper.

[CJ]

That's impressive, Gab.

[Gavin]

Thank you, bro.

[CJ]

That is impressive.

[Gavin]

Just staying in the gym, I think that's part of.

[CJ]

Think that's. Yeah. And they're having fun and just having fun, you know, and probably the wrapping it up helps a little bit like that should. That should actually counter your problem quite a bit.

[Gavin]

I thought it was gonna.

[CJ]

Now I see why you always wear them, right.

[Gavin]

100. Because then you got a second.

[CJ]

You could start doubling up. You can start doubling up.

[Gavin]

I heard that's bad. You're not supposed to do that.

[CJ]

Triple.

[Gavin]

Tripled it.

[CJ]

I don't know.

[Gavin]

Tripled up. I mean, I can't.

[CJ]

Less feeling for you.

[Gavin]

I already hate one dude. One condom sucks too.

[CJ]

Well, it sound.

[Gavin]

I'm just careful.

[Evan]

That's good. You'll get your mojo back and then. Then it'll all be back.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we got to just get you back in there.

[Gavin]

Yeah. I mean, now we're all talking.

[CJ]

Maybe you're. You're. You're getting with too fit or like now you're kind of changing your preference in women.

[Evan]

Right.

[CJ]

That these girls are, you know, they're too good looking for you.

[Gavin]

That's exactly what happened. I think, you know, for the past two months, like I said, dry spell. I was hanging out with a couple heavy girls, hitting on them at the bar. But it's like, ah, dude, can I do this actually? And then finally, yeah, cuter, Cuter girls.

[CJ]

You're just. You went up too many classes. Too many weight classes.

[Gavin]

Yep. And just got stage fright at that point, man. Didn't know what to do.

[Ben Ross]

I think girls like. Like that, though. She did like some sometimes.

[CJ]

I don't know if the girl trying to hook up with you takes as a compliment, though.

[Ben Ross]

No, I think they take it as a compliment. I'm sure. Yeah.

[Gavin]

And I was like, oh, yeah. I think. Yeah. That's why.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

That's why it's happening.

[CJ]

So this is the first time it's ever happened.

[Gavin]

100.

[CJ]

That's what you say? Yeah.

[Gavin]

Then just tell them every time.

[Dalton]

Tell them that so many times.

[Gavin]

I know.

[CJ]

And then, wow, this keeps happening.

[Gavin]

And then they start telling you, chill, baby, chill. I was like, no, don't chill. I don't know. I'll figure it out. You guys got any advice? I mean, I asked Evan. He didn't have anything.

[CJ]

You could like, think about other things.

[Evan]

Don't Think about three wheelers.

[CJ]

Yeah. Just think about other things.

[Dalton]

Think about four wheelers. Turns you off.

[CJ]

You could do less motion too.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

I feel like if you're.

[CJ]

You're doing like a lot of. Like this, if you know what I mean, but you did less range of motion, but just kept it close because, like, it's not really about the range of motion.

[Gavin]

Really.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Okay. I like.

[CJ]

I mean, if you're trying to really get it done, like, get them going. Yeah. Like, it's not really about your range. I don't think it's more so about the contact like this, if you know what I'm saying?

[Gavin]

Really actually making it happen.

[Ben Ross]

Is this.

[CJ]

Is this too much? I mean, I'm just. That's my advice to you. So, like, that, that. That could help with prolonging it. And then also, like, if you're like just about to. To release, what you can do is switch positions. But take a little long getting into this new position. Like, that way you have long. Does it take for you to roll over? Yeah, you know, like.

[Gavin]

Like, take your times.

[CJ]

Take your time. Take your time. And then, like, you know, you. You can maybe gain some more time there. That would be my two things. But, yeah, you maybe gotta just try and disconnect.

[Gavin]

I can't disconnect. I mean, it's like anything else where I get too flustered, then I just keep getting more flustered and it ends bad.

[CJ]

Are you. Well, yeah, if you're thinking.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. Are you getting pretty, like, active?

[Gavin]

Such as.

[Dalton]

Are you sweating a lot?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. Are you, like, sweating like, I feel sweating right now?

[CJ]

Sweating right now.

[Ben Ross]

Like, I. We might have even talked about this in the last podcast.

[Evan]

We did. Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When Jake, like, rides a snowmobile, like, he's just doing all these unnecessary, exaggerated, Exaggerated motion.

[CJ]

Right.

[Ben Ross]

And I feel like you're maybe doing the same.

[Gavin]

Just way too much in bed, probably. You're probably right too. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what it is either. I gotta figure it out, though. I mean, there's something wrong with me right now. There's probably something wrong with me always, but right now in that department.

[Ben Ross]

No, I think you're good.

[Gavin]

Okay.

[Ben Ross]

I think you'll find. I think you'll just grow out of that.

[Gavin]

You think so?

[Dalton]

Hopefully.

[Ben Ross]

No, I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say, like, you'll grow out of it, but I think, like, it will just change as you maybe evolve. Your.

[CJ]

You just gotta get your numbers up.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Just get the numbers up.

[CJ]

I want you Three times a day. Three times a day.

[Gavin]

We're going to Texas. I should be able to make those numbers happen out there, I'll tell you that right now.

[Ben Ross]

You think so?

[Evan]

Easy.

[Gavin]

Pretty easy, yeah. I mean, not pretty easy, but there's my type of woman out there. I'll tell you guys that right now.

[CJ]

You'Re gonna need like a. Like a secretary or someone who's like. Like setting these up at, like. Okay, right at this time, Gav needs to be here and here. And then he's gonna be riding his three wheeler in between this, you know, just because otherwise the schedule is going to be just. It's asking a lot from you.

[Gavin]

Ken's already working on that with me. We got a couple chicks scheduled out, but we got.

[CJ]

Ken will get you.

[Ben Ross]

How many.

[Evan]

How many crickets are you looking for down there?

[Gavin]

The Mud Crickets. What do you guys know about the Mud Crickets?

[Ben Ross]

Nothing.

[CJ]

None.

[Gavin]

You want me to tell you about them?

[CJ]

Yeah. I don't know why you're asking.

[Gavin]

Oh, my gosh. Any guy with a lifted truck and cut off sleeves, they are drooling over.

[CJ]

Really? Yeah.

[Gavin]

So we're going to.

[CJ]

I can. I would imagine. You got to be a hot commodity down there.

[Gavin]

We're going to find out. I've never been.

[CJ]

Well, we're going to find out, too. I'm expecting a lot from you. You talk big. Talking real big. You are.

[Gavin]

Yeah. I mean, they might be fat, but I'm good with that. As you guys know, there. There's some heavy heavies that can be acquired. And you're right, that might help with me prolonging the situation. So.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Doesn't really fix your problem, though.

[Gavin]

I hope it does, but. Because when you go with the bigger women, I don't want to go into graphic detail, but we're already so graphic.

[Ben Ross]

This is where he draws the line.

[Dalton]

What happens, Gab?

[Gavin]

Nothing good. Just nothing good. We're not going to talk about them. That's for the next podcast. I'll let you know how Rednecks goes with them.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, I'm excited. We're going to Rednecks with Paychecks. By the time this podcast is out, we'll have already been home from it. But it's like the biggest mudding event in the country, maybe the world.

[Evan]

Like 1200.

[Ben Ross]

1200 acres of just, like, redneck mayhem.

[Gavin]

Mud heaven.

[Dalton]

Mud heaven.

[Gavin]

Mud heaven, man.

[Ben Ross]

And Mud Crickets. The women running around are going to see a strapping lad like Gavin rolling around in our world's longest pickup truck.

[Gavin]

Damn. Right.

[Ben Ross]

And they're not even gonna know what to do with a man of that nature.

[Gavin]

What are they gonna do with that big of a truck bed down there, man? How many heavies can we fit back there?

[Ben Ross]

I don't know. We should find out though.

[CJ]

You could find three 500 heavy duty truck, so you know it's got the extra leaf spring.

[Gavin]

Let's go, brother. Let's go, man. All right, we'll test that out for sure.

[CJ]

Gavin pulls up and there's like a bunch of heavies in the back.

[Evan]

The whole beds line.

[CJ]

There's like some kind of like. Yeah.

[Gavin]

We gotta make that happen, actually.

[Ben Ross]

Oh, we will.

[Gavin]

Okay, good.

[Ben Ross]

Well, I mean, we'll assist. Like we can only do so much.

[Gavin]

You guys have done a pretty good job so far. You guys did a great job on helping me find my ex girlfriend. That was awesome. Didn't work out. I think she might be more of a four wheeler girl. So we'll figure out. Well, yeah, we'll find that out in the future.

[Ben Ross]

I think she's more of a Rolls Royce.

[Gavin]

No, she didn't like basketball players, man. She liked me. She liked a redneck.

[Dalton]

Whoa, never mind.

[Ben Ross]

You guys are still dating.

[Gavin]

Help me out.

[Ben Ross]

And she's still a cheerleader for the NBA team.

[CJ]

Oh, I'll help you guys.

[Gavin]

She likes me, right? Did she actually like me?

[CJ]

Yeah, it seemed like it.

[Gavin]

Okay, good.

[CJ]

You know, we went and got after you guys after you selected her. Where'd we go? Denny's.

[Ben Ross]

Denny's.

[CJ]

Yeah, we, Ben and I were technically on you guys's second date. It was you two and then Ben and I and Dalton. Yeah, yeah, Good times. But anyways, let's. Let's look more towards the future. How do we help put you in another opportunity or a position to have another girl as classy as that one?

[Gavin]

Right.

[CJ]

You know? You know, would you be up for another round of speed dating?

[Gavin]

I think we probably got to make it happen. I need a little bit more of a southern twist, you know, for sure.

[CJ]

Maybe you need a girl who likes.

[Evan]

Ram Trucks, not Range Rovers.

[CJ]

That could be a part of the casting. Yeah, like a Google spreadsheet. And it's like you got to fill this out. And there's like some preferences. Do you prefer Ram Truck or Range Rover? If they click Range Rover, they're automatically put into like. Like, we're done. We're not even going to look at that application.

[Dalton]

What's the rival team to who she cheerleads for? Because you should go try to score a cheerleader off of there.

[Gavin]

100.

[Ben Ross]

You got one cheerleader. You think he's going to be scoring another?

[Dalton]

More than one NBA cheerleader.

[Ben Ross]

Could I. Yeah, Gav, I think it really just does. It comes down to, you know, we got to be better friends.

[CJ]

I agree. Yeah. The problem is, I think I would feel guilty doing another round of speed dating with just going through the process of setting it all up for you again. Because we also have. We still have some other friends that are single, and they've seen the last two lineups of women that we put together, and they're like, what the. Why don't you ever do this for me? So, like, I think if we did it for you again, they would be offended.

[Gavin]

You think so?

[CJ]

I mean, and I feel like that'd be kind of a bad friend move on my part because, like, you know, like, we gave you a shot, dude.

[Gavin]

You really get shot.

[CJ]

So it's like, you know, we maybe gotta finish the circle. I. I look at, like, obviously, our. Our buddy Jake, he's single. Our mechanic Gavin, he's single. Like, so there's at least two people that I see that maybe need to go before we come back around and give you another opportunity.

[Gavin]

Gives me some time, man. I got to get. Like I said, we got some problems to work out, so I start working.

[CJ]

Just work on yourself until then.

[Gavin]

Exactly.

[CJ]

But you know that, you know, at any moment, you come down here, we're going to spring it on you.

[Gavin]

I'm going to be preparing, man. Like you said, three times a day, brother.

[CJ]

Calloused, callous.

[Gavin]

I'll get callous.

[CJ]

Not for me.

[Evan]

Whoa, whoa.

[Gavin]

I'm trying to help you here. I'm trying to help you. Is that Actually have calluses?

[Dalton]

I don't have calluses.

[CJ]

All right. No feeling you.

[Gavin]

Do you. No. Do you have feeling down there? Yeah, it feels good.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Good.

[Dalton]

What are you trying to fucking.

[Evan]

Are you saying you don't.

[CJ]

Clearly, Gab's got too much.

[Dalton]

You need to get some. What is that Novocaine they give you at the dentist office?

[Gavin]

I'm not putting that. No, thank you, bro.

[CJ]

Starts injecting it or what about.

[Dalton]

They have that. That numbing spray. It's like Icy Hot.

[Gavin]

I have the numbing spray. I have the numbing spray, and that's not helping. I haven't tried it.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, why don't you. Why don't you. Why don't you just pre game for these dates, Have a wink?

[Gavin]

Because then you're not as riled up.

[Dalton]

I mean, you're not as ready Sounds like the problem.

[CJ]

A couple beers might help you too. You know, be whiskey, maybe.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, okay.

[Gavin]

We'll try that next time.

[Evan]

There you go. You know, we talk about Facebook Marketplace. You're an in person guy, are you. Are you an only in person guy for the ladies? Are you. Are you searching on Tinder before you travel all the time?

[Gavin]

I run the Tinder here and there, but I'm not a big Tinder guy.

[Evan]

Really.

[Gavin]

Not that. No, I'm not.

[CJ]

Is there much. Much of anything good on the. On the Tinder?

[Gavin]

There's some pretty cute girls.

[Ben Ross]

Really?

[Gavin]

Yeah. They got to be in there swiping on Tinder.

[CJ]

Part of me, I. I wonder, like, if you're a real. It's hard to believe that there'd be a lot of cute girls on Tinder because generally cute girls don't have to look that far to.

[Gavin]

What's up? You guys want to see?

[CJ]

I've never been on Tinder.

[Gavin]

I've want to take a scroll and.

[CJ]

I'm not trying to.

[Evan]

One for the famous people.

[Gavin]

Yeah, I applied. I haven't been accepted yet.

[CJ]

I'm probably completely wrong.

[Gavin]

Like the first one about what I.

[CJ]

Said, that looks great, but perfect for you.

[Gavin]

100. I mean, let me see.

[Dalton]

Give it. Give it a little harder swipe or whatever you got to do.

[Gavin]

I mean, that's the first pick right there.

[CJ]

To show you short term, open to long, but she's mostly looking for short term. Hey, there you go. This girl's got a boy in her thing.

[Gavin]

See? What do you think about that? Girls are all over the place, man.

[CJ]

Posting pictures I just swiped. I swiped the wrong way on the good one, and I swiped the wrong way on the bad one, and you got a match with the bad one.

[Dalton]

It looks like a guy. Oh, that's Gavin's picture.

[Gavin]

What are you wearing?

[Evan]

Wait, could I see your. Can I see your profile?

[CJ]

Yeah, let's just. Let's screenshot Gavin's profile and put it up on the go. That's. That's actually funny.

[Ben Ross]

Here, can I. Can I see it?

[CJ]

Oh, okay.

[Ben Ross]

Are you in a.

[Gavin]

No. We start off in the gym, of course, and then we move to let.

[CJ]

Them know that you're having fun.

[Dalton]

Who the hell is Jim?

[Gavin]

You got.

[CJ]

Oh, man.

[Gavin]

You haven't been on Tinder in forever, have you? I.

[Evan]

No, I have not. Gavin, 24, professional fun haver him in the gym.

[Gavin]

His.

[Evan]

Your hat's a little silly.

[CJ]

In this picture, most girls probably see professional fun having. They go, well, he doesn't have a job.

[Evan]

And then and then they see you on this jet ski snowmobile and they go, definitely doesn't have it.

[Gavin]

What do you think about that one?

[Evan]

Electric three wheeler. Yeah, this is cute.

[Gavin]

Okay.

[Evan]

Okay.

[Gavin]

Got the reaper tires right there. And then your truck, is it a solo of the truck?

[CJ]

Yeah, Let me see his truck. Let me see his truck.

[Dalton]

I think we need to update.

[CJ]

Oh, he did the black Ram.

[Gavin]

The nice.

[Evan]

I think we need to update your Tinder profile, dude.

[CJ]

What if we do that as a segment we take. We get like. We take Gav out and try to get his. His Tinder profile just like.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, I think we need to optimize your Tinder profile to really set you up for success in the most way.

[CJ]

You'd look good in an all white suit. You would. All white suit. That's your first one, dude.

[Ben Ross]

How.

[CJ]

Yes.

[Ben Ross]

I feel like we have a.

[CJ]

We have a picture of. Don't we?

[Gavin]

Oh, 100. Let's find some. Let's put it together.

[Evan]

This is the reason it's not working. You have. Looking for long term, open to short, because I.

[CJ]

So you're pretty much down for anything. That's actually a good answer.

[Evan]

That's a good answer.

[CJ]

You're looking for it, but you're down for a couple little pit stops on the.

[Gavin]

Just going for a hookup.

[CJ]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Evan]

You're into social media, hot springs and country music.

[Ben Ross]

That's what you tell people.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

What are you into social media?

[CJ]

They didn't have three wheelers as an option.

[Gavin]

They didn't have ATVs.

[CJ]

No.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Evan]

No, I mean, I think. I think there's some. There's some room for improvement, for growth, which is good because if you were tapped out on like, if this was perfect. Yeah, it. You know, then you'd be like, dang, what are you doing wrong? But there's some easy fixes.

[Gavin]

Thanks. Thanks, Brian. Yeah, I've noticed that. I mean, I haven't had the best luck on Tinder, I'll tell you guys that.

[CJ]

Really?

[Gavin]

Yeah. Tinder sucks.

[CJ]

Seems dangerous.

[Gavin]

Very dangerous.

[CJ]

Like, what if you showed up somewhere and this girl's a psycho and you're sleeping and then she kills you?

[Gavin]

That's what I don't like about Tinder, man.

[CJ]

Or like, her. Her boyfriend comes back and then he beats your ass.

[Gavin]

Right? Nothing good comes from that.

[CJ]

Yeah, it's something.

[Ben Ross]

Did you have anything about three wheelers in there?

[Gavin]

No, nothing.

[Evan]

Wow.

[Ben Ross]

So you're looking for a woman, huh? You don't care if they know or care about three wheelers? When you told me about 20 minutes ago.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

If she doesn't like three wheelers, I don't even give her the chance.

[Gavin]

So I should probably put that in the bio, huh?

[Ben Ross]

I mean, it just seems like that's at like number one priority.

[Gavin]

No, it should be.

[Ben Ross]

And then you don't even have a photo of it.

[Gavin]

Not even acknowledging it. No. I gotta step up my game.

[Ben Ross]

Like, are you like, not proud of it?

[Gavin]

No, I'm super proud of it.

[Ben Ross]

I just don't think that it's a dirty little secret.

[CJ]

He just knows his pool is going to be very, very small.

[Gavin]

If he puts it like it, then.

[Evan]

He can do the whittling.

[Gavin]

Still just tough, man. Because not many girls are gonna be like. Not many girls even know what a freaking three wheeler is until they met you, dude. Right.

[Evan]

You'll be able to teach them.

[CJ]

You are spreading awareness, though.

[Gavin]

Thank you. Appreciate that.

[Evan]

Thankfully, not anything else.

[CJ]

Well, we don't know that for sure. Yeah, he still has to go get tested.

[Gavin]

But should I go get tested?

[CJ]

Actually, I would.

[Evan]

Let's do it as a bit. It'll be, oh, it'll open up the next YouTube video, get 2, 3 million views.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Then you have a nasty D clinic.

[CJ]

Might help help your odds too. Then everyone knows, like, oh, he's. He's clean.

[Dalton]

And you can ask the doctor about that serious problem you have.

[CJ]

It could give you some of that spray.

[Gavin]

I don't want the spray, man. I'm just nervous about putting it on there and not getting feeling back.

[Evan]

It's only. It's just temporary.

[Gavin]

But then what? Next day, I can't feel anything.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. And then you'll be like, oh, wow, what a terrible problem.

[Dalton]

Now I can for hours.

[Evan]

I don't know.

[Gavin]

We'll solve it, man. I'll find love sooner or later. Whatever it looks like.

[Ben Ross]

I mean, yeah, I'm not worried about you. Honestly, Gav, thank you.

[Evan]

I'm not either, dude. I find a great lady. Yeah, your catch.

[Gavin]

Yeah, I mean, like. Like you were saying though, you always got to be careful about these girls. There's some weird girls out there. Weird boyfriends, man. I was on a freaking date with a girl the other night. We got a great dinner down in local town, had Italian food, everything's going solid. Go back to her clubhouse, at her apartment, start playing pool. And she's telling me about her ex boyfriend, yada yada yada. And then some random guy walks up. Dude. Yeah. This was the creepiest thing ever, bro. We're just playing pool. I'm drinking a Corona, having a Good night. And this guy just starts coming up, breathing all hard like. Like he was on drugs or something. It was the craziest thing ever. Just stares at both of us and then says, hey, ask the girl how she's doing. And then slowly walks away. It was the weirdest thing ever.

[CJ]

Ex boyfriend?

[Gavin]

No, it's her eggs. Like, so apparently he hooked her up with her ex boyfriend. It was the weirdest situation ever. I still haven't figured out how he knew we were up there. The whole she was even stumbled by it. Spooky.

[CJ]

Was he, like, bigger than you in terms of like, height or jackness?

[Gavin]

We were fine.

[CJ]

You do have that going in your favor. Like, you're not a small guy. So, like, most guys aren't probably going to try to 1v1 press you 100 if it's going to be hand to hand combat, you know, like it's clear you're gonna win.

[Ben Ross]

Right.

[Gavin]

But still, such a weird situation. Never got to the bottom of it either. I mean, that guy just came up, checked me out.

[CJ]

That is. Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

Did you start looking around for us? Hiding with some hidden gear.

[Gavin]

Stuff was going on for sure.

[CJ]

Whenever anything weird happens to Gabby, just. Where's the camera?

[Gavin]

I don't even know how edge I'm on. Like, I'm on edge 24 7, pretty much. I hear a door slam.

[Ben Ross]

Loves this.

[Gavin]

What's going on, dude?

[Ben Ross]

I see.

[Dalton]

I can see Gavin actually getting robbed. He just doesn't really do anything about it. It's probably just a prank. I'll just let him run it. They just clean his barn out. Take all of his Wheelers. Gone. All right, guys, where's the cameras? Standing at the end of his driveway. At 4 in the morning.

[CJ]

Don't come out.

[Gavin]

Any minute now.

[Dalton]

Joke's over.

[Gavin]

Sometime this week, I'm actually gonna need your guys's help with some guy. I got his phone number, I got all of his information. It's gonna suck if he ends up listening to the podcast. He's gonna see it coming. Some guy. So you guys know, a couple months ago, I posted a video on the Big collection. Some kid from North Dakota drove all the way up, gave a fake credit card, loaded up a 250R, drove back to North Dakota and never paid for it.

[CJ]

Wait, what?

[Gavin]

Yep.

[Evan]

Where? At the collection.

[Gavin]

The collection in Denver. Drove to Denver, gave a fake credit card.

[CJ]

What's his name?

[Dalton]

Let's find him.

[Gavin]

Information.

[Evan]

Really?

[CJ]

Oh, really? Why don't we go track them down?

[Dalton]

Real information or what?

[CJ]

It's. I like that. Why are we not already doing this right now.

[Gavin]

No, no. 100. We're gonna film it. We're gonna go find this kid.

[Dalton]

And why won't the federales do anything about this?

[Gavin]

Just because. I mean, you're gonna end up paying more in court fees than you are worth.

[CJ]

How much was the three is a.

[Gavin]

5,000 right around five grand.

[Evan]

Why were they letting him pay for.

[Ben Ross]

This with a credit card?

[CJ]

That seems crazy.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

I don't know. I mean, they were just kind of trusting everybody. Everything else went smooth.

[CJ]

Everybody they took, they thought, this guy's in the three wheelers. He's a trustworthy individual.

[Gavin]

Yeah. And he showed up in person. He's like, who's gonna try and rip.

[Dalton]

A guy when they sell stuff on ebay and everything too, right?

[CJ]

Let me see. What's it. What's he look like?

[Gavin]

Oh, he looks like the type of kid that was still a 250R for sure. Look at that little dweeb. Yeah, we're gonna track him down. He's gonna have a hard time. He looks himself on this.

[CJ]

X out. He's got a mullet.

[Evan]

Where. Where in North Dakota was he from? He's in one of them scary areas.

[Gavin]

Is he really that little freaker, though? What do you think about that? Terrible, huh?

[CJ]

I think that you got a video bit being handed to you. A whole video being handed you on a gold platter and you can do something good, bro. And oh my God, I just saw Evan Wafting. That. I just saw Evan Wafting.

[Gavin]

I was like, what is he doing, bro? That's not okay, Ev. But.

[CJ]

And to think that some. Some women actually want your. Your used clothing.

[Gavin]

What's up?

[Dalton]

Oh, I thought you were going to say eat at that restaurant.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Oh, that too.

[Dalton]

But yeah, they didn't say me specifically.

[CJ]

They wanted.

[Dalton]

They wanted a whole.

[CJ]

Oh, all of ours. Yeah, that's fair.

[Dalton]

I was just worried that it's a trap and it's going to end up with that cult that burns all the clothes.

[Evan]

What are we here?

[CJ]

I don't care if they burn my. I'm not going to send my. My underwear or worn shirt anyways. But if they burned it, I wouldn't care.

[Dalton]

Have you seen that? Do you know what we're talking about?

[CJ]

The one dude that just wants all like the snowmobile gear.

[Gavin]

Dude, he's messaging you guys too.

[CJ]

Yeah, even messages. Eight years re Wheeler gear.

[Gavin]

No, my snow gear.

[CJ]

I don't know why. He just really wants to burn shit.

[Ben Ross]

But he's like changed his name a bunch of times.

[Gavin]

He's kind of got a very consistent.

[CJ]

He knows he's notorious.

[Gavin]

Very notorious.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. He's got a message like everyone that could possibly own snow gear.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

Like everyone that I've ever talked to has been like, yeah, that guy's messaged me too. My question is, what's up with it?

[Gavin]

He's got a fetish for it.

[CJ]

He hates winter equipment. Wants to see it burn or something weird.

[Evan]

Maybe he works for one of the big companies and he's trying to get the old stuff burned so then people buy more new stuff.

[CJ]

He's an industry plant.

[Evan]

Industry plant.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

Or he just hates to see the shitty quality merch going around.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Ev, you'd be pretty proud of me. Started doing something that I think you might think is actually pretty cool.

[Dalton]

You bought a pair of Etnees?

[CJ]

No.

[Dalton]

Did a wheelie?

[CJ]

Know what this is?

[Ben Ross]

Fast acting.

[CJ]

It's cbd.

[Dalton]

Oh, wow.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Wow.

[Dalton]

Yeah, I think all kinds of earthy on there.

[CJ]

Well, I just like, what is it? I just figured you might think that's pretty cool that I'm doing CBD now.

[Dalton]

If you put it in a blunt.

[CJ]

With a bunch, Dude. This gets me going though. It does it, does it?

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

No.

[CJ]

So like, you know, I just like. I feel like I'm always on edge all the time. So I was like, what? I'm trying to figure out what could I do to like, make me relax a little more. I started looking around, I'm like, well, for one, it said cbd. But I was like, well, look at Evan. He's a pretty chill guy.

[Ben Ross]

Until he's not. He's the most anxious person you've ever met.

[Gavin]

No.

[CJ]

So anyway, so I just wanted to try it. I know it's no. There's no THC or anything. I was just joking. But it actually kind of low key made me so, like, it does really chill you out. Like I. I didn't think CBD worked. And I know it's kind of just cringy because, like the way people talk about it, but it. It made me so relaxed and just like not thinking at all that I closed the garage door on my G wagon and scratched the whole roof.

[Dalton]

No.

[CJ]

Yeah. Of my matte black G wagon. I just wasn't fucking thinking.

[Ben Ross]

That's why you don't do drugs.

[CJ]

It's the cbd, man. And that's what I thought. I was like, geez Louise, I am out of my mind.

[Ben Ross]

I've been on drugs for one day and I'm.

[CJ]

I know.

[Dalton]

I'll try some of this special Blend. Cbd.

[CJ]

Take some F. It's gonna put you off your rocker.

[Ben Ross]

Man starts taking it. You got that little trinket. He's going through three of those a day.

[CJ]

Yeah. No, it really.

[Ben Ross]

He's abusing it.

[Dalton]

I can see CJ in an AA meeting. What are you here for?

[CJ]

Yeah, I started taking water soluble cbd. Yeah.

[Dalton]

No, I could wagon in my garage.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Dalton]

Wife's pissed.

[CJ]

No, I was freaking putting it in and I had the sunroof open because it's like the first nice day. And I don't know why, but I started. I went to close the sunroof in the middle of driving in, but for some reason, I just hit the other garage door button and it starts closing down and I just watch it.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[CJ]

Well, I drove at least this far, you know, but that's. And I don't even know.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Evan]

More than you'd like it to be.

[CJ]

It is what it is. Funny story. And I blame the CBD at least.

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[Ben Ross]

You don't CBD and drive.

[CJ]

Yeah, but cbdui. Yeah. There's no THC in it even.

[Gavin]

You have that type of stuff happen to you a lot where you break something kind of expensive. You're just like. That's what it is. I mean, what's been your worst one?

[CJ]

I mean, that's happened a ton over the years. It happens almost every week around here.

[Ben Ross]

I just.

[CJ]

There's nothing you can do. You just like. I literally, by the time I walked into the house, I had already made, I just was like, well, it is what it is. Right.

[Evan]

You know, made peace with it.

[Gavin]

How to. Yeah. Make peace with everything. Because I know it's only a matter of time before I hit the ditch again or do something.

[CJ]

Yeah. You've got to be great at it. What do you mean? You do it all the time, too.

[Gavin]

Trying to figure out how to be a little bit better with it.

[CJ]

You just gotta accept it, man. That's what it is.

[Gavin]

It's my baby. With the old truck, I mean, I hit the walls, like, here we go again. Whatever, you know? Yeah, but this new one, I don't want to pile up.

[Dalton]

So you like your new Cummins better than your 89 that's here?

[CJ]

Definitely not.

[Gavin]

Definitely not. This one has so much character. That's my baby forever. This one's just a temporary. Let's build the out of it and drive the heck out of it.

[Ben Ross]

I think, Gav, you just look at it like. I try not to put myself in a position that I will ever get too worked up. Over financially.

[Evan]

Okay.

[Ben Ross]

So it's like, right now, Jake's driving my Raptor.

[Gavin]

How do you feel about that?

[Evan]

You should not have slept for a week, for sure.

[Ben Ross]

So he texted me this afternoon and was like, hypothetically and theoretically, if you were to pick any new color that you wanted your truck painted, oh, my God. What color would that be? I was just like, well, I made the decision. Handing him the keys, I was like, worst case scenario, I have to eat a $30,000 truck bill. Yep. Which would suck, but it wouldn't, like.

[Gavin]

It wouldn't kill you.

[Evan]

Because even.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, it wouldn't kill me.

[Gavin]

Right.

[Ben Ross]

If he did that, I guess on my Lambo, I would be fucked. Like, I would be like. I would wouldn't be sleeping at night because I'd be like, wow, that was so, so incredibly stupid. What did I think was going to happen?

[Gavin]

Right? 100%.

[Ben Ross]

So I don't know. Maybe that's a bad example because he'll pay for it, but, like, wait, did.

[Dalton]

He do something to it?

[Ben Ross]

I was like, actually. And he was like, no, theoretically, and.

[CJ]

Hypothetically, he should do pink like your Subaru.

[Ben Ross]

So I mean, like, worst, worst case, like, at all costs, you know, like, if it's gonna bankrupt you, well, you shouldn't have put yourself in that position to begin with.

[Gavin]

100. You know, you're right about that.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. So I'm, like, always just trying to, like, stay below, like, financial worry makes sense because, like, that's, like, the worst. If you're, like, like, financially worried about what happens, it takes all the fun out of everything. You're worrying about it. You're thinking about it 100%. And, like, I don't know. I just, like, I hate that. And I. I try and tell, like, a lot of people that, like, don't be a slave to, like, your financial decisions.

[CJ]

I feel like we operate on that line every week.

[Ben Ross]

Not really.

[CJ]

I feel like we do.

[Ben Ross]

But not personally.

[CJ]

Yeah, not personally, but as a business, I don't know.

[Ben Ross]

Well, yeah, as a business. That's different, though. I share. I share that burden with everyone else.

[Gavin]

Yeah. I think my problem is I get so emotionally attached to. I don't care about the money. At a certain point, it's just emotion, too.

[Ben Ross]

And that's what you can't.

[Gavin]

No, you can't at all.

[Ben Ross]

The less you care about anything, the better.

[Gavin]

And that's actually something learned from you guys.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Not like a bad way whatsoever. Actually the best way possible. You guys are just so relaxed about certain things. I get so tensed about and it's like, definitely helped me with certain things through everything, honestly.

[CJ]

That's true. I actually really appreciate you saying that, Gavin. That's a really nice compliment.

[Gavin]

Well, it just works out for you guys too. I mean, you work your asses off and don't worry about the.

[CJ]

Yeah. I feel like no matter what, we just kind of laugh. Like, if you, like, ran a three wheeler into the side of my G wagon, all of us would laugh, including me.

[Ben Ross]

Oh, yeah.

[Dalton]

I would be laughing.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah. Evan totaled our widescape. We paid $7,000 for this widescape. And then Evan ghost wrote it in front of the Mega quad last week where I ran it over. So technically I did total it, but after we did it, we were like, well, that was stupid, but it was pretty funny. We were just laughing like, what's done is done, right?

[Dalton]

Dude, it is what it is. But the one Ryan was riding is more broken than the one that you ran over with a Mega Quad.

[CJ]

Well, you got like two feet of air with the thing.

[Evan]

What do you.

[CJ]

You see the thing? It was maybe even three feet in the air at one point, so it's bound to be totaled out.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[CJ]

When it lands.

[Ben Ross]

I think we've always just kind of operated like that, though. I can tell. Like, we always just.

[CJ]

We didn't operate that way as kids, though. We started operating that way, like, right as we started the channel. It was just always all or nothing.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're like, it's not that big of a deal.

[Gavin]

It isn't. Nothing is. It always works out. Yeah.

[CJ]

But also, a lot of stuff happens off video.

[Evan]

But yeah, as long as it's on camera. When the accident or thing breaks, generally is what help makes it better in our scenario, I feel like.

[Dalton]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Because then you can look back and laugh at it.

[Ben Ross]

That's like the beautiful position of being like a YouTuber. Like, you can kind of make lemonade out of shitty lemons.

[CJ]

You might as well just laugh and move on. Oh, no.

[Gavin]

100, man. I know what you're saying, because especially.

[CJ]

That goes for everyone.

[Gavin]

When I was driving up to Snowden in the brand new truck, I hit the ditch.

[CJ]

Yeah, of course. Well, you have to.

[Gavin]

I haven't told you.

[CJ]

Of course you hit the ditch.

[Dalton]

Drinking.

[Gavin]

No, I wasn't drinking.

[CJ]

Were you on cbd?

[Evan]

Nine Celsiuses is what he was.

[CJ]

I could see how I'd hit the ditch if I was on cbd.

[Gavin]

One Celsius, man. I was cruising and next thing you know, I just got a freaking Christmas tree full of lights. Everything is freaking out on the dash. I was like, I bought a lemon, man. I bought a bad truck. Losing my a little bit. I was like, all right, what do I do? You know, calling my buddies for advice. They're like, ah, maybe trying to make it to make it to Laramie. I got another 30 minutes to Laramie or an hour and a half back home. So I keep driving along. Everything is freaking out on me. Thankfully, the truck is deleted. So it didn't go into lint mode or anything. Still have full power. And I'm coming around the turn, talking to one of my buddies, and I let off the gas and I had my exhaust brake on. The exhaust break is your full.

[Dalton]

So you were on the phone when you hit the ditch?

[Gavin]

I was on the phone. Oh, yeah. Talking to my freaking buddy all the way through it too. And so I'm coming along the first turn, and I see the snow right there. I let off the brakes because I see the snow. Well, that's actually what triggered it because whenever you let off the gas.

[CJ]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

Locked up the rear 100% without even touching the brake. I didn't even think about it at the time. Next thing you know, I'm sliding, sliding, doing about 45 straight across the ditch. I'm eating. I was like, oh, shit. I'm talking to my buddy. I'm like, I'm hitting the ditch, man. We're doing about 40, but everything's looking good. Everything's looking good. I had a clear path in front of me. Just kept going, kept going. Didn't hit a single thing. Ended up on the opposite side of the road. That's when I was like, all right.

[CJ]

Really?

[Gavin]

That's when I was like, God, you.

[CJ]

Shot across the oncoming lane.

[Gavin]

Thankfully, nobody you really. So lucky is right. Didn't hit anything in the ditch. Two feet of snow, plowed right through it. Ended up on the other side. Everything is still freaking out. I was like, all right, time to turn around and head home. So that's when I cook it. An hour and a half.

[Dalton]

I hope you turn around when you're in oncoming.

[Gavin]

But I was like, all right, let's keep going home. Hour and a half back home, show up to my mechanics place. Safe to say he is not a newer truck guy. He. I show up there, he's like 2006 and older man. That's only what I like, you know?

[CJ]

What do you got right now? 2012.

[Gavin]

It's a 2013.

[CJ]

2013.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah.

[Gavin]

So, yeah, he looks way too fancy for him. He's like, oh, dude, this piece of corrupt tune, he's plugging all of his computers and he's pulling up his. He's like, oh my gosh, dude, he's freaking out. He's freaking me out.

[Ben Ross]

I mean, it's like I. I knew I should have bought a newer one.

[CJ]

I was like, I don't know what I was buying. Something so new.

[Gavin]

Yeah, man. And so that's when I was like, all right, I'm leaving your ass. So thankfully it started back up, everything is still freaking out. I was like, I'm gonna put new batteries in it, cuz maybe one of the batteries is bad, sending a bad signal, yada, yada, yada.

[Dalton]

And it's the only thing you know how to do.

[Ben Ross]

You work on that. I'll get a battery in. Did you put a new battery in it?

[Dalton]

Yes.

[Gavin]

Did you try sea foam? Yes. We're fucked. Yeah. So after I put the new batteries and it was good for 30 minutes, I was like, all right, I'm going to head up to Utah. Screw it. So I start driving my happy ass 30 minutes away from home. Starts freaking out on me again. I was like, what the hell does a guy do? So I call up one of my other buddies, he's like, dude, I actually got a guy like 10 minutes from where you're at right now. So I call up that guy, I'm talking to him on the phone. I was like, all right, this is a real diesel mechanic, you know. I didn't hear the raspy cigarette voice. I was like, this is a good sign.

[CJ]

Really?

[Gavin]

Yeah.

[CJ]

You think it'd be the vice versa?

[Gavin]

No. Yeah. I mean, my other guy is just a redneck smoking cigarettes, only working on old shit.

[CJ]

It you didn't trust him?

[Gavin]

Didn't trust him that much.

[Ben Ross]

Exactly.

[Gavin]

So we show up to this guy and he's like, this is a good truck, man. Like, something's going on. So I could tell right away, like, he's on my side, he's gonna help me out. So the next thing you know, he gets a hammer out. He is tapping everywhere.

[Ben Ross]

Left a couple dents on the, on the hood, a couple in the rear quarter panel.

[Gavin]

Exactly.

[Ben Ross]

Like, what are you testing right now?

[Gavin]

What are you looking for? Just starts testing everywhere. Next thing you know, he's in my truck underneath the dash, just playing with shells. Like, this isn't gonna go anywhere. We're like 30 minutes. And I'm so glad this guy's even taking his time to help me because he has a real ass shot. Like he's a real deal mechanic. And he's up under there and he goes, oh, and I. Next thing you know, I see the lights go all the way on. He goes, I found it. It was a loose bolt underneath my freaking dash, dude. Just a bad ground wire. Put a new nut on it.

[Evan]

Good to go.

[CJ]

And it was dialed.

[Evan]

Shop had those dents fixed up.

[Gavin]

And 100. Good to go. Not a problem since.

[CJ]

It's awesome, Gav. I'm happy for you.

[Gavin]

Thank you, brother. Can't beat a comments.

[Ben Ross]

Yeah, there you go. Sometimes you just got a loose nut.

[Gavin]

Sometimes. Yeah.

[CJ]

Well, that's pretty good, podcast, boys.

[Evan]

Yeah, it was good fun.

[CJ]

I think there was a lot of humor. There was a lot of lessons learned. I think there was a lot of takeaways for the viewers. Remember, less motion, Gav, everybody.

[Gavin]

Yeah, even I have that problem.

[CJ]

Less motion. Try to just. More friction.

[Gavin]

Thank you, cj.

[CJ]

That'd probably be the best way to.

[Gavin]

Say you're kind of an expert.

[Ben Ross]

It's called the pelvis method. Yeah.

[CJ]

You know, I don't want to talk about myself, but, you know, I don't.

[Gavin]

Want to talk about myself either.

[CJ]

Well, thanks for listening, guys.

[Gavin]

Thanks for listening.

[Evan]

See you guys next week.

[CJ]

Every Tuesday, hit the subscribe button. We got a Raptor. Our giveaway going cboystv.com See you next week.

[Ben Ross]

Good stuff.

[Gavin]

Let's go.