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Ryan
Ah, what was I just gonna say?
Ben
You're gonna say, welcome back to life Wide open podcast with Ryan, cj, myself, Ben and Jamie. Or sorry, Ken.
Ryan
Don't call him that.
Ben
I know, I know he doesn't like that. And listen too much Rogan.
CJ
Dude, I've been listening to a lot of Theo Vaughn. So funny, bro. He's my favorite podcaster. That's for you, Ryan.
Ryan
Thanks, Doc. Have you ever listened to a solo podcast? Like, he'll just do a podcast alone. Have you ever listened to him?
CJ
I almost get more enjoyment out of that because I like, I. I think the funniest part about him is watching him think and his ability, like, licks his lips and he, like, looks up in the air, you know, he's about to say some outlandish. And he does that the most when he's just talking to himself.
Ryan
It's amazing. I can't believe that he's able to sit there and just like, portray thoughts out semi coherently for an hour and a half.
Ben
Like, I don't. I don't listen to those because I, I'm like, it's tough listening to a one person podcast, no matter who it is.
CJ
But what amazing was me is how he manages to come up with these stories on the fly. And they. They have to all be fake. They have to.
Ben
I wouldn't say all. I would not say all.
CJ
I would say a majority of them have to be for how outlandish they are. And I've, I've never heard him tell the same story twice.
Ryan
That's actually what's crazy, is I've told the same story twice a million times. And he's always out there on every podcast or every one of his own. Never even talks about the same thing twice. Are they the same person?
Mike
I feel like Mike could do a solo podcast.
Ben
I would enjoy it.
Mike
Maybe episode 82. That's what we'll do. Just Mike.
Ben
Oh, next week.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
You got to subscribe to see it though. We always talk about at the end.
Ben
Subscribe now on that tangent. Like, I have absolutely listened to a substantial amount less music since I started, like, listening to podcasts. I never listened to podcasts, let's say, two years ago. Ever. Never ever. I was like, podcasts are boring. They're for people who want to learn. They're just boring. It's like a talk show.
Mike
Who's trying to learn?
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. Who's trying to learn?
CJ
Why would you, why would you want to learn when you're driving in the car instead of listening to dubstep EDM music that is going to make your ears bleed, you know?
Ben
Well, it only makes it bleed if you turn it. Well, unless you're Ben, I guess. No, what I'm getting at is, like, that's what it was. It was music in the car, music on the computer, music in your headphones. Music, music, music, music. And now I get bored when I listen to music.
Ryan
I agree.
Ben
I, like, get bored. I'm, like, working, and I'm like, I don't. I don't feel like I'm getting the juices going right now. I got to put a podcast on, and then the last podcast I listened to. Was it the Ovon podcast?
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
I feel like there's a big cultural shift in two podcasts. People listening to them like.
Ben
You guys completely agree.
CJ
Mike, this made me think of it. The other day. You posted a Snapchat of you driving or doing something, and it had the most aggressive EDM music in the background. Do you listen? So if you do listen to music, you listening to that, like, driving in.
Mike
The car alone by yourself?
Ben
Yeah, sometimes.
CJ
Yeah.
Ben
I'm like one of those. There's, like, the. I listen to anything guys, and then people are like, there's, like, a whole genre on TikTok. Oh, you listen to anything, and then they play, like, some outlandish song. It's not always dubstep. Sometimes it is.
CJ
Dude, that's just one thing I've just never managed to get into.
Ben
Yeah. It's a. For me, it's just a lot of rap, dubstep, and.
Ryan
But to be fair, Mike's in, like, level 10 EDM womp music.
CJ
So, like, you have to.
Ryan
You have to learn into those levels. It'd be, like, going to just the most lyrical, nitty, gritty rap that you've ever heard right off the bat. And never even listen to, like, Dababy.
Ben
Yeah. Or it's Eminem.
CJ
Yeah.
Ben
It's where it's, like, rock music. And I'm not super into metal. I appreciate it, but you go all the way to the most extreme metal, and then it's like, oh, what is? I, like, like, Shine down and, like, Rolling Stones. You know, there's. There is. You're right. There's levels to it.
Ryan
What's your guilty pleasure music, like, what's the songs that you listen to in the car that, like, people would be surprised to hear?
CJ
I don't know. It depends the crowd. But, like, around this crowd, it seems like country music.
Ryan
No, no. I throw it on, like, crowd. This is, like, you in the Car like, do you really bump Taylor Swift?
Ben
And in your head, you go. You're, like, listening to it and you go, I can't believe. I. I. Because that's what I think of sometimes when I listen to the dubstep. I'm like, I can't believe that I love this shit.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
I mean, go the other route. I think my guilty pleasure is sometimes, like, the most basic songs where I kind of even hate myself for liking them.
Ryan
Go, like what?
CJ
Like, I don't know, like, something. Some shit that you'd hear. Like, some Ed Sheeran that you'd hear on the radio. I can that, like, you guys hop in. I could change it. Damn radio, though, I do love that.
Ben
I love the hopping in someone's car and then seeing exactly that and them changing it. Like, for Ken, it. It. Actually, we made jokes. It is Ben Shapiro.
CJ
All right.
Ben
But. And earmar doing it, like, all right, let me get some music on for you.
CJ
Or. Yeah, or some Harry Styles or something like that. I. I would say something basic that is just kind of like, okay, kind of a little bop.
Mike
That is funny, though, because I think that's pretty common. Like, you listen. You have music you listen to when you're driving alone, cranked up, but then when your friends hop in, you're like, oh, shit. Depending on. You're like. Like, let's say it wasn't one of you guys is maybe one of our other friends that we only occasionally hang out with. I'd probably just be like, Just hit, like country radio. Just let it, Let it roll. Have it on, like, medium volume.
CJ
Some people are so good at curating a playlist to fit. Fit the vibe of situations. Like Ryan's girlfriend Alondra, Always give ox to her or tell whoever is on Ox, just let alone play ox, just let alone. Because, like, you read the room and then you kind of just curate it to that. But then you just, like, you. You pick songs that everyone can vibe to that aren't niche almost.
Mike
She's got her ear to the ground, though. She. She has new songs before I even, like, I hear most new music from her.
Ben
Well, if you like it, it's not exhausting, but it can be exhausting.
CJ
It's a task.
Ben
And so if someone's like, you're on ox, but you better play good shit. And like, oh, fine. Then it's, like, stressful. Justin is also very good at it.
Ryan
Yeah.
Ben
And dude, I mean, he's like, forgetting to, you know, like, sip out of his beer, forgetting to talk to people.
CJ
Like, he's just on the phone.
Ryan
He takes us like a full time job.
CJ
Yeah, dude, I just saw that Apple has an update. If you connect to CarPlay when you hop in the car with somebody and. And multiple people can connect to CarPlay, then you can throw songs on the queue. Wow, that's pretty sick.
Ryan
Spotify had that months ago.
CJ
What?
Ryan
Yeah, it's just always funny because Spotify, yeah, Apple's always maybe a tick behind, but they always are way better at notorizing a new feature. And then everyone's like, Apple's a genius.
CJ
I'm on Spotify. And I didn't even know that you.
Mike
Could do that on a boat. When you're out at the sandb, right?
Ryan
It be so nice.
CJ
And you never get the.
Ryan
You never get the like, hey, can you play this song? Type of deal.
CJ
Just add it. Well, do you think that's almost giving too much power to people that don't deserve it?
Ryan
Maybe if the wrong person gets on there, you know?
CJ
You know?
Ben
Yes, but I love. Then you. Then you have one person in charge and they are able to go, oh, whoa, whoa. You hear?
CJ
Yeah, well, yeah, you get a gatekeeper. Like Alandra is going to be the gatekeeper, right?
Ryan
Yeah, true.
CJ
You know, keeping a. Keeping a real close eye on that cue.
Ryan
When it's like Saturday at 2 and CJ throws on break stuff by Limp Bizkit, she's like, too early. I would say that CJ's. That's guilty pleasure.
Mike
That's like 11am Maybe that's like when you first wake up on a Saturday. Still a little drunk. Turn that you're going to have a good day.
CJ
Evan's into some real aggressive shit. And then when he starts getting into like the little peep.
Ben
No, that.
CJ
It's like suicide rap.
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
CJ
You're kind of like, that's what it's like.
Mike
You're just making everyone sad.
Ben
Yeah, it is interesting because even. Yeah. Again, listen to everything. But a lot of that suicide rap just check out.
Ryan
I'm like, it's a little much sometimes.
Ben
Doesn't really.
Ryan
My guilty pleasure is like early 2000s and it all started when I bought my Hummer. I thought I have to listen to period current music. You know, when I'm in my Hummer, I got to listen to what people would have listened to in 2005. So I started to go get a Hummer playlist on Spotify. And it is the Most golden early 2000s to mid 2000s rap. It was a good time, dude.
CJ
I think that that's like an era, at least in our friend group that like anyone can vibe to.
Ryan
Exactly.
CJ
Especially like late nights in the Sprinter. You throw that on and like everyone knows every single song and every word to it. Dude.
Ryan
You know, it's funny though, last weekend we were in with your girlfriend's younger brother and his friends. You could throw on like my, my cousins are younger. So on the 4th of July I was like, oh, I'll throw on some like Kanye, like all the lights or like something like that. I'm like, this is going to hit. Put on. Everyone's like, what is this? And I'm like, oh my God.
Ben
Don't know.
Ryan
I went too far back. I'm getting old.
Ben
Yeah.
Ryan
Sucks.
Ben
I guess.
Ryan
Like you guys never listen to this. Warming up for a basketball game or something like that.
Ben
And then they're like, we never heard it.
CJ
Have you. Did you guys see the new Apple VR headset that got released?
Mike
I saw the, I saw a picture of it. I didn't quite understand what it was. I didn't click on it.
CJ
So I watched the video of, of the release and everything. Or you know, like the, the promo video that they release with it. Pretty crazy.
Mike
Well, what's it do?
CJ
Well, it's just a VR headset, but like it, it, it, it's see through one. So you can also see like what's going on in front of you. But then it's also like you have your apps in front.
Ryan
It's like a heads up display for your life.
CJ
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's a great way to put it. Yeah, heads up display. But it's like, I mean, looks kind of the same as, as like an iPhone or an iPad or something like that with like everything going on. And then you use your hands to like select things and move things over and then you can like how. So you could watch like a movie and you could go like this and it'll make the movie like bigger and you sit there or if you're like scrolling app to app, you can do that. I think you can just do it with your hand. Or if you're like working on like a presentation board, you can like grab things over here and like throw them there. It's wild.
Ben
Well, that's what I, I like too. You can have multiple things going just how you have multiple monitors.
Ryan
Could you have, Could I have something going on over here? And then I also don't know going.
CJ
On over here, I'm sure because then you just. It's probably like full360, I'd imagine maybe.
Mike
I don't know, man. We are just getting closer and closer to the robots coming.
Ryan
Those in. Wally, how much driving around on their little hoverboards.
Jenny
Did you guys see how much the estimated to cost?
Mike
3, 500 bucks, right? Yeah, that's what it said in the picture I saw. Yeah. That was ridiculous. Who the heck is gonna buy that? A lot of people, right? A lot of people. That's a lot of money just for to.
Ben
I don't know, I'd go as far to say as maybe even one of us. I don't know who I know too. Yeah, but I mean, I remember that like what changed my mind about like Apple's pricing, which I hate. I think that it's overpriced and you get what you get. But when someone was like, damn, dude, 1500 bucks for a phone. And then other people are like, it is literally a supercomputer in your pocket. And then I'm like, you're right, it actually is.
CJ
Do you guys remember what else are.
Mike
You going to do? That's not even an option.
Ben
You're right.
CJ
Do you remember when iPhone upgrades used to be like, were they 200 bucks to just upgrade year after year?
Ryan
I feel like, yeah. Some of the first iPhones someone should look up. Ken, how much is the first iPhone?
CJ
I mean it's probably all relative too.
Jenny
But the original iPhone purchased off contract was 5.99.
CJ
Okay. No, okay. How much was it off contract?
Jenny
But it was like 199 with a two year contract.
CJ
Okay. Yeah, okay.
Ryan
I mean, 200 bucks.
Mike
They really let those go. I remember that was so fun. Like back before you just basically went and got the most current iPhone. When you'd go there and like pick out. You'd pick out your phone, it was like a big decision. You envy. Do I get the chocolate? Chocolate? Like, do I want a raz.
Ben
Stick with the razor.
Mike
Right.
CJ
How old are you guys?
Ben
14. Is that I going into eighth.
CJ
How old were you?
Ryan
I was like sixth grade.
Mike
Yeah, six.
CJ
I think I was fourth.
Mike
I had a Virgin mobile phone though. So like it was like a pay as you go. It was different, I think.
Ben
Yeah. And. And as ages get a little younger, like I think parents can see the benefit of their. I don't know. Let's just say it's different. 12 year old being able to contact you if. If there's an emergency or being able to contact them if there's an emergency. They're used for a lot more than that. I mean, but when you grow up on an iPad.
CJ
Yeah.
Ben
What's the difference?
CJ
Actually, I think kids are getting younger and younger or they're, they're honestly younger.
Mike
Can't blame people for getting their kid a phone just because then it's like.
Ryan
I'd want to know where they are.
Mike
You know, where they're at. It's just like that. That's the biggest thing. It's like safety almost. But yeah, at the same time you're kind of like giving them.
Ben
That's so true, dude. Actually there's like pros and cons, double edged sword. Not knowing where your kid is is absolutely a thing of the past.
CJ
Dude. Steve was telling me the other day that one of his friends that has, I don't know, a 10 year old or something like that got him chipped.
Ben
Chipped the kid?
CJ
Yeah, like a tracker.
Mike
It's in his skin.
CJ
Yeah, they put him under the knife. I don't know, I don't know what all it entailed. And he didn't either because I was very curious, but he was like, yeah, no, he's straight up, like chipped.
Mike
Wouldn't you take that out like a.
Ryan
GPS dog tag type of deal? You know, people get their dogs chipped and.
Mike
I don't know about that. That's pretty up.
Ben
Yeah, Yeah, I was like, I don't know.
CJ
It's like submerging an air tag.
Mike
Why not just have them?
CJ
Yes.
Mike
Geez Louise.
Ryan
I don't know.
CJ
Maybe you got him shipping young. Talk about a hover parent.
Ryan
No. Yeah, dude, that's things that maybe it's just better if you don't know. You maybe assume, but you just don't know about what, what your kids doing when you're young, you know, like all this.
CJ
You meant being chipped? Like it's just better if you don't know.
Mike
Dude. Those chips though, I mean, I'd imagine give off radiation like your cell phone. Not, you know, like this. But we talked about this few episodes in the past. Now this dude's got it in his body.
Ben
Hard to know because I'd like to, I would like to think, right. That when they made them and we're like, yeah, these are actually going to go inside your body. I'd like to think that they alleviated such.
Ryan
No, probably not.
Mike
I think they're, that's, they're not concerned about that right now.
Ryan
Dude, what if you had like a cheap ass parent and he's like, I'm not paying for the chip. It's a thousand bucks. We're putting an air tag in you, cuts you over with a Pocket knife and slips an air tag.
Mike
Oh, my gosh.
Ben
How am I going to. You got to swallow this when you're sleeping. I'll just put the little, like. It's like an Apple Watch charger. You just magnet it to their skin. All right, now don't move for an hour. It should be good.
Mike
Ken, can you Google where they would put chip in a child like that?
Jenny
I think normally it's like your arm.
Ben
Yeah.
Mike
Wow.
Jenny
Normally it's like. Like an RFID thing, so it doesn't have power to it unless you're next to something, but.
Ben
And they started finally moving forward with actually putting neural links in people.
CJ
Well, I don't know about that, but they got it approved. I don't think they, like.
Ben
I figured they'd act pretty fast once it was approved.
CJ
How many people you think are lining up to get it?
Ryan
Probably a lot.
CJ
Probably. Yeah. Right.
Ben
If there's compensation.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
I was sitting down with a couple of my friends. They're all on their way to being doctors. And, you know, there's not too many tables, I feel, at that. I feel like a real idiot. But you sit down with two pharmacists and three doctors, one of them being. Two of them being surgeons, you really feel like you don't know anything they're saying. But they were talking about how people. One of them works in groin areas. I can't. What they're called. But basically, he's a dick doctor. He's talking about stuff like. Yeah, this guy shoved a knife up there and, like, all the stuff that they. People put inside different orifices that shouldn't. And I go, man, I. I can't even feel that bad about myself. Some people are really messed up.
Mike
What the Was that guy thinking shoving a knife up there?
Ryan
He says it always. Everybody always says, oh, I fell on it.
CJ
No, always.
Ryan
Always fell on it.
Mike
And the last guy had the same thing happen.
CJ
That's got to be a weird fetish.
Ryan
Yeah, it's. It's. He said sexual gratification, which I don't really know what that means, but I do, but.
Mike
Oh, my God.
Ben
Yeah.
Ryan
He showed me a picture. It was like a ruler, and it was a stick, like, this long. He said it was technically a girl or a guy that was a girl, but said had quite the hammer on her because it was a big stick.
CJ
What were we talking about before ch.
Ben
Your kid?
Ryan
Before phones, though, like, dude, have you ever, like, your grandparents ever just show up unannounced? Your grandparents are maybe a little more hip, but, like, my grandparents Would always do that because they grew up not having phones. I don't even know if they had power in their house. So like they wouldn't call and be like, hey, what are you up to tonight? I'm coming over. Like a normal person does in this society. They would just show up at your door at like 4:30. And then my dad would come home and they'd be like sitting there and he's like, what are you guys doing here? And they're like, oh, well, we just figured we'd catch you after work. And he's like, you didn't think to call one of those deals?
Ben
I wish you could go like back in time and experience that as like a video game level. Because I think if we were actually, you know, it would be more of a fun thing. Like, okay, you have to figure out how to get a hold of this person and then execute this. Which now is just like, well, I just call them. I just get their number.
Ryan
Hot take. I think we grew up in the. We're growing up in the best time to be alive.
CJ
Yeah, I'd agree. What about this? You hop in a fucking wagon and you go across the country.
Ryan
I think that every time we go.
CJ
Snowmobile, hoping that there's a better life. Yeah, yeah.
Ryan
No roads. Wild.
CJ
No. Or this. You hop in a boat and you go across the entire ocean off the just the slightest chance that life will be better in wherever you're going the, the United States and what you've heard.
Ryan
We have this resort near us on Pelican Lake and it's really old. How old is Fair Hills?
Mike
Over 100 years.
Ryan
Yeah. So over 100 years. They have pictures all over the walls. It's like 1915 and it's guys fishing in full blown suits like that you would wear to a wedding or a funeral or some.
Mike
Out in the hot sun.
Ryan
Yeah, in the sun with like a, a boat with a paddle. And I go, man, you ever think that if you could have teleported back and told them and be like, yeah, people are gonna pull up in their Hummer. Yeah. In their homer. But in there like, let's just say $300,000 wake boats with 500 horsepower in them, what do you think they would have said?
CJ
I'd imagine that'd be probably pretty hard to comprehend. So what would that be like? Somebody said, well, I don't know, it'd be like somebody saying they're gonna pull up with like a five million dollar boat.
Ryan
Yeah. But not we know what we know now.
CJ
I don't know I think I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I'm just trying to like, think of, like the times. I guess they'd probably be just very confused as to like, how this area got to that point, you know, because this, the area that we live in right now used to be like extremely rural.
Mike
It was hard to get to. Hard to get to take a train. And then there would be a boat that would take you down this, like, river slash canal that connected all the lakes. And they would drop people off at their cabins. So, like, you'd have to already be pretty wealthy, but they would drop you off. And then the only way to get back is you'd catch the boat when it comes back around. So think about how much slower life moved back then because you couldn't call anyone, you couldn't mail anyone. So, like, say you had a job or you lived in Fargo 45 minutes, you take the train from Moorhead all the way up here and then do that. I mean, you talk about slow living, you'd have all your supplies with you. You'd get dropped off and you just wait till they come back.
CJ
Yeah, man. I mean, it just kind of shows like, dude, People back then were like tough bastards. Like, to be able to be. To be able to go on a horse and buggy across the entire United.
Mike
States, you had to be to survive, man.
Ben
But that's what it was, surviving.
Mike
Do you guys ever feel like you're like moving too fast? Like you, you. How I know if I'm moving too fast is I start making mistakes. And then I always tell myself, like, I need to slow down. Like, let's say I'm in a rush. And then I go and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go and try to make this food real quick. And then I end up spilling the food on the floor. Now I spend another 10 minutes trying to clean up the floor. And then it's like I'm moving too fast, you know? Or you make a mistake on the video and then it goes out and I'm like, God damn it. I was just moving too fast, didn't have enough time.
Ben
Yeah, I think, well, there's that. Those are like the day to day things. And then there's also like the shit I haven't done X activity that I. I used to love doing. Like a month ago, I used to do it like every other day, and now I haven't done it in a month. What happened? Moving too fast?
CJ
I think people that can, like, compartmentalize Is that the correct word for it? Right. Thank you. And like, focus on certain things and then move on to the next thing. But, like, not bring the last thing with them, but, like focus on exactly what you're doing throughout the day. Are like, very successful to be able to just like move from thing to thing to thing and being able to like not multitask, but like get it all done 100%.
Ben
Yeah, no, that.
CJ
I think that's how you almost like do a good job at everything versus kind of just like half ass. Yeah.
Ryan
Doing a shitty job because you're worried about the next thing already.
CJ
Yeah.
Ben
And especially in what we do. Well, like what a lot of the, you know, the more successful you're trying to be, the more hands you're trying to put places, but you can't. Let's say you only have two hands. So those have to either work on one or two things at a time and that's it.
Mike
I think that comes with also, like just being an obsessive or like having like addictive traits, you know, qualities.
Ben
Yeah. I think the more obsessed you are with whatever your goal is, the more. The easier time you'll have compartmentalizing your tasks. Yeah.
Ryan
But you also probably don't focus on other things too, because you're obsessed.
Ben
I just think it's like when the to do list is like a million tasks long, it's scary. And then you start trying to chip it away at all of them.
CJ
Yeah. The move just go brick by brick. Then you got a wall. True. Yo, do you guys follow golf at all? No. No. Okay. Do you know what live golf is?
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
And the pga.
Ryan
I heard about this. Yeah.
CJ
Okay. So you know how. How Liv started and it's a Saudi Arabia investors that basically funded the entire thing.
Ben
And then isn't it mostly like European based or. They're in the States too?
Ryan
No, they're in the states.
CJ
They're in the states. They're kind of worldwide. Okay. But they basically poached a bunch of like the PGA golfers from.
Ryan
Gantic money.
CJ
Massive gantic.
Ben
And then PGA was all like, yeah, they're. You're not coming back?
CJ
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. But they offered them like hundred million dollar paychecks. Yeah, huge, like, huge paychecks. Well, anyway, after like the last year of them being in like lawsuits with each other, they just joined.
Ryan
But did you hear the real beef? The PGA Tour, in order to go, like trying to cancel all the people that left them, all the big players and all of live golf, they go, oh, liv, golf supported 911 and all that. Like they were trying to say that they were like funding terrorist groups and shit like that.
CJ
Well, I think it was more like Saudi Arabia.
Ryan
Saudi Arabia? Yeah. No, but it was. There was a bunch of stuff about 911 and yeah. Like anti American things. But then the funniest thing is then the PGA flips and joins them. Does all that count now?
CJ
Well, I think it's like extremely hypocritical.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
And obviously they, they had to have known, like, all right, if we're doing this, like, we look like really bad.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
On this. But yeah, I think it was ridiculous that everyone was saying that all these golfers that were leaving were like anti America supporting Saudi Arabia for doing 9 11. Allegedly. And I was like, no, they're just taking $100 million paycheck. Yeah.
Ryan
To go.
CJ
What would you do? These people like talking shit. Like, you're telling me you wouldn't take that paycheck. Yeah. If you had like, that's like generational money.
Mike
Yeah.
Ryan
To play some golf.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
Lud get paid 10x.
CJ
And now one year later, though, now they can go back and they get. They get their paycheck.
Ben
Yeah.
Mike
They get the one.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
Yeah. But you know who really got screwed? All the players that stuck with the pga. And then the PGA flopped on them.
CJ
I guess they were like. I guess that those players were super pissed about it, I bet, because then they like, you know, they return. They stuck. They stuck with the pga. We have your back. And then they were. The PGA was like, oh, never mind. Wolf, Wolf.
Ryan
Lip.
CJ
Yeah, dude.
Ryan
You know what? I got to give you two credit with that. You stick to your guns on shit. If you make up your mind. I mean, not that you're not adaptive, but if you have a opinion on something, unless facts are presented that it's something better, you stick to your guns about it. And it goes to show when you flip flop on something like that, you look like a real idiot.
CJ
It is a double edged sword and it does get you in some greasy situations. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, you got to just stick to it.
Ryan
But I believe in believing what you believe in is the best thing. Yeah.
CJ
Yeah. Especially if you can just like convict. Well, obviously you've convinced yourself of it.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
But then you just stick to it.
Ryan
Because you know, that's like the worst thing is, is the PGA was saying all those super negative things just to give them bad press and to try to get people not to go because they didn't want to lose their hold over things. They probably didn't even really care about all that stuff. They made it up to make the live golf sound bad, but then when they flip on themselves, then it goes, well, what, did you support all that all along now? Is that still how you feel? Did your feelings change about that? So it's like pretty rough.
CJ
It's kind of cool though, because like, live golf started and they basically wanted to have a completely different approach at golf to make it more interesting and attract a different crowd, you know, and they did that and they became like the competitor to pga, which nobody could compete with. And then they basically, PGA just had to accept that, like this is the new norm and either they're gonna take us over or we join and get stronger from it. Which is cool though, because there's so many markets that I think are just dominated by certain players in the game. And it just shows that if you do come in with a little bit of innovation or be somewhat different, you can be a competitor to that, which is good, I think, because then it's keeps everything evolving versus you're just like, golf is going to just be golf. I can't imagine a whole lot of listeners right now are like, into golf. But it, I think it just goes.
Mike
To show that money is, is. I mean, really where it all goes down. I mean, it boils down to it, as sad as that is, it's like whoever's got the most money.
Ben
Well, that's what I was hoping that EGA wasn't making these potentially false statements that they may or may not have believed in. All for money. And then like, hypocritical. All for money. But yeah, as someone who's like not. Not a golf fan, I just. To me, golf is pga, so it is cool that it's not anymore.
CJ
It's crazy to see like everything going into some form. Like, it seems like Saudi Arabia has their hand in so many buckets now.
Mike
Because they got all the money, doing.
CJ
So much money, but they're running out of oil. So they're trying to diversify, I think. Right.
Jenny
Is that why Ken, they're not running out of oil? They're planning for when they do run out of oil.
Ben
Right.
Jenny
They're just like, they're just like looking 50 years in the future and they're saying we need to diversify and build up an economy that's not 100 oil based. So when the oil money does stop flowing in, they have money from other sources.
CJ
I think it'd be kind of cool to go and check out Saudi Arabia Dubai and over there for sure.
Ryan
Yeah. You guys ever been on Instagram and seen an account post something and just wonder what the heck their media team is doing?
CJ
Dude, I think about that a lot. When companies try and get like funny meme accounts on Instagram. You notice that like certain companies go like the meme route and it.
Ryan
Sometimes they hit Slim Jim really good.
CJ
That's a great example. They actually did a hit.
Ryan
Yeah, they kind of like the people actually who really invented it. But I saw one, quite possibly the most Dodd one, the U.S. border Patrol. And this is the legitimate U.S. border Patrol.
Mike
I haven't even seen it yet, but I just want to say these guys should not be, they're not messing around, they shouldn't be joking around. They're border patrol.
CJ
It's still kind of funny though. Been a new guy.
Ryan
And I just wonder what possessed them to make that.
CJ
I think they probably went, yo, we need a media team or, or one person to stay hip with the times and get employees.
Mike
Who gives a. What are they gaining out of having a media team? All they're supposed to do is protect the border.
Ben
Well, I think the more it's not.
Mike
Like they're selling merch or trying to.
CJ
It's like YouTube videos or something.
Ben
It's a double edged sword. Yeah, you're right, it's not sell a product online.
Mike
They're just protecting the borders.
Ben
But like the more people that per se know this page exists, get reminded that the Border Patrol exists and hopefully.
Mike
They like targeted maybe Mexico and just was like sponsored post. And then it's just the Bugatti showing Border Patrol.
Ben
Maybe, Maybe, dude, I completely agreed with you, cj. And then I saw it and I laughed and I'm like, well here I am laughing.
Mike
It was funny.
Ben
There are, there's accounts, let's just like say the Philadelphia Eagles and there's some like, you know how they call them like shit posts and like shit memes. They're like so out there that if you showed any like 50 year old person they go like actually what did I just watch?
Ryan
They're like level, level 10 memes. They're like only funny if you've really been through a lot of meme, right?
Ben
So they'll post something like that and I'm going to just like, man, like I, I can't believe they did it, but I still like it. And there are, including the Border Patrol, there's just pages that should be cut and dry. And I think the Border Patrol should be cut and dry.
Mike
It should just be pictures of Them with like everyone they caught or like protecting, you know, just a picture of someone with a sniper sitting up on a tower.
Ben
I think that'd be cool. Yeah, they could make pretty bad edits. Yeah, not like that, like a legit one.
CJ
I'm assuming though, that they go, all right, what's the demographic or age range of people we're trying to hire?
Ryan
What are the kids listening to these days?
CJ
And they go, all right, these kids are on Instagram and tick tocks, let's start making those. And they went out and they hired some kid and the kid is sitting there like, what? How do I make this shit entertaining? And he's sitting there late at night and goes, yo, I'm gonna make an edit of one of the patrol cars to this song. But that's how that was born.
Ben
I think one thing. Yeah, I agree, but I think one thing you're forgetting in that aspect is that usually when you hire a social media person for any job ever, for any company, usually someone else sees it before it goes live. In this case, either other people saw it before it went live and went, yeah, if you really think this is going to work and like trusted him, or they just gave him free reign.
Mike
I mean, to be fair, it did work. 1.2 million views. That was way more. Yeah, so either way, I mean, popped off from.
Ben
But yeah, I know what you're saying, Ryan. I've seen a few where a company is this real and then you go check their page and it really is Macy's posting this.
CJ
It's like the modern day version of when you would go bowling and you get a strike and it's just some outlandish shit of like the. The pins all explode, something pops out. Yeah, yeah. Like some of them were like, really aggressive.
Ben
I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't understand how it correlates.
CJ
It's like the modern day. Like those used to be like funny memes, like, just like outland. Like you're scrolling on Instagram.
Ryan
But I actually like that take. Yeah, something that just makes no sense, but you can laugh at it.
CJ
Right.
Ben
I think most of those bowling ones that you see now are just animations made to look like they used to be a thing but aren't a thing because they're like pretty aggressive.
CJ
Ryan, pull up the Buffalo Bills Instagram.
Ben
Yeah, that's a great example. Buffalo Bills has a very deep level of like, shit memes that most people wouldn't get. And then you see the comments and people are like, yo, give the social Media guy a raise. Just give them the company.
CJ
I do think it's funny though, when, you know, certain companies or franchises or brands decide to go the meme route. It's like two routes on social media. Clean and like, corporate or meme, I love you.
Ben
I don't think you'll find a statue fight.
Mike
His makeup is gonna help him.
Ryan
The margin for error is so small.
Ben
Wrong angle.
Ryan
Yeah, man, I gotta get some rest.
CJ
It's hard for me to believe that.
Ben
We are the only intelligent life.
CJ
Sean can tell you there's players on this roster.
Ben
There are extensive conversations on this roster. There are on this roster.
Ryan
I'm talking, dude, this is level 10. Like, this is.
Ben
This is.
Ryan
How many views have 1.1 compared to 270 or 178 of some guy probably scoring a touchdown and fucking winning the game right here?
CJ
Like, how do you get in the mindset to make something?
Ben
I should say showing that to someone is like showing. It's like, hey, this is a person speaking, like, German and you don't know how to speak German. That's similar to that. Well, I don't know what that was about.
Mike
You guys, I have something to admit. I think. I'm sure it's no surprise, but just because you guys know me, I think I am like a level 11 meme. I am.
Ryan
So it has to actually be funny for you to laugh at it.
Mike
Yeah, I think it has got to really be funny. And they're obviously. I don't fucking know. Maybe I just don't find that funny. I don't know.
Ryan
I didn't look at that and go, oh, my God, that is so funny.
Ben
Right? It's more funny the whole scenario.
CJ
That's a level 10 meme.
Ben
That was.
CJ
Justin would look at that and Justin would know every single meme and think that's just hilarious.
Ryan
Cackle to it.
Ben
But yeah, I think you're. You being a level one memer isn't even roastable.
CJ
Maybe it is.
Ryan
Throw it. But I can't believe you just called CJ a level one meme.
CJ
I am.
Ryan
Ever heard anyone say in.
Ben
Them, it's not even really roastable. But there are laughable moments at every level. And I knew CJ was a level one memer when. When his little brother Jake got the video game Big Chungus, which, for those of you that are memers, know that that's not a real game. That's just a funny thing to say. It's. It's a fat Bugs Bunny and he got a video game called big chungus. And CJ's like, what the fuck is that game? What's Big Chungus? What's he playing these days? And I'm like, I didn't even tell you that it wasn't a real video.
Mike
I mean, I figured it out. But yeah, I mean, I just don't.
CJ
I don't get good.
Ben
It's not funny to you?
Mike
I mean, it's kind of funny now. Yeah, Big Chung is. It's kind of a funny name.
Ben
Well, I guess there is that too. There's like. You don't find it funny enough to, you know, spend your time. No looking in.
Mike
I think some people just really enjoy it and. And that's awesome. And they spend a lot of time. So they're with it, with the memes, you know.
Ben
Do you guys have.
CJ
Sorry, no, you go ahead.
Mike
I was gonna say like Justin's big memer. You're. I'd say pretty with it. Whistling Diesel. That guy obviously really likes memes. He's always posting them on his story.
Ben
We actually have a group chat without you guys.
CJ
That's fine.
Ryan
It's actually titled the Only People that will Understand.
Mike
That's good.
Ben
It's one of those things.
CJ
It's like the same thing with like dubstep, like the wiggle dick music.
Ben
It's likable but.
CJ
Well, by some people. But some people think it's. It's good music. Some people don't. Some people like the memes, some people don't.
Ryan
Some people like good music.
Ben
So I was just like. Little transition from that. Do you guys have your suggested posts on. On Instagram? I think so. I have a love hate relationship with that. Like they. They integrated it in. It's basically like peppering in your Explore page, but on your feed it's more than just the people you follow. And I have a love hate relationship with it because I really enjoy it. But guess what takes up more of your time. I remember at one point Ben followed so little people that he would hit his. You've reached your. All your people. You can scroll and.
Ryan
Yeah, they don't do that anymore. They just hit you a suggestion so.
CJ
They want you to keep going.
Ben
Right. And I turn that off because it's like, damn, I follow like enough people where like I never hit that. So clearly you could keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. I'm just intrigued by it because like, I'm not saying it's a bad thing if you have it on, but like you literally end up scrolling for longer because of it.
CJ
Man. I already scroll Too much.
Mike
So I. I don't know how you do it, Mike. You too, Ryan. You guys follow a ton of people. And Evan.
Ryan
I don't even. I never get through them.
Ben
No.
Ryan
Never.
Ben
But that's what I mean. That's why I turned that off. Because I've never, ever, ever, ever hit that. Like, you scrolled all. You can scroll everything.
Mike
You ever think about those people that follow zero people?
Ben
I do.
Mike
Like, what do they do? How do they even know what's going on? They just go to the Discover page. I always wonder that Danny Falls there. Like, a lot of people follow zero people. Yeah.
CJ
Or they just look people up maybe.
Mike
Yeah. It seems like a real hassle.
CJ
I wonder what this person's been up to. Yeah, like, I'm not could follow them, but I can't.
Ben
Yeah, I'm not.
Mike
Like, I wouldn't even know if you.
Ben
Ever posted because, like, I have. I follow a lot of people, so I'm not want to talk. But you're right. Like, there's just some people that's just easier. Just your life is easier if you just follow them because you're genuinely interested.
Mike
Maybe it's better. Maybe you're better off without it, though, because then you don't have a distraction and you're just like, everyone. Maybe not everyone, but you're just like. I don't need any influence from anyone.
CJ
You know what, though? When I'm on C boy's Instagram and it just follows us and the podcast, it's still pretty, like, curated to, I guess what I like, which is amazing because I maybe scroll on that like once a week, if that. And it. It's kind of nice though, because it shows you things that I like normally wouldn't look or scroll past on my normal account. And then you see like, a side of Instagram or maybe a side that. That is like, new. And then. And then I'll go to send you guys something. I realize that I'm in C boys. So that's why I just. That's why I added Seamless to our group chat. Because I always find memes or, like, something that's really funny and I want to send it to you guys.
Ryan
Do a lot of people at home have that? Like, do you know of other friends groups that have an Instagram group chat?
Mike
Like, ours is acta.
Ben
Be a thing that is a great.
Ryan
We send like 5, 10 a day in.
Ben
And it could be. Well, I mean, whatever we're into, but anything. I mean, crazy video boats and crazy video everything.
Ryan
I don't Even scroll Instagram anymore. I'm a Facebook guy. Solely Facebook. And before you berate me for being on Facebook, because I would for myself, it is only because of Marketplace. Marketplace, My social media dude.
Mike
I kind of enjoy scrolling Facebook and just seeing what the people I like actually know are up to.
Ben
Oh, that too, dude.
CJ
Who's getting married as far as. Yeah.
Ben
Then again, the Marketplace thing, though, Ryan. So it's only a matter of time. And this is coming off of what we just talked about. Instagram, the whole for you vibe, the TikTok, the whole, like, curated thing is probably a good thing. I like it. I enjoy it. It brings you things that you probably already would like, but now it does it on Facebook. Marketplace.
Mike
Oh, yeah.
Ben
It's dangerous and it's awesome. You don't even have to look up vehicles anymore. You don't have to look up CR125. It just gives you all the things that it knows that you're gonna like. But the best part about it is none of it's fake. Like, it's all real stuff for you.
Ryan
Spend your real money.
CJ
You know, Mike loves that.
Ryan
I can tell Mike, you know, he loves a Marketplace game because he's been spending his money.
CJ
Yeah, Mike, you guys got like a.
Mike
He's like, no one as the guy they like, come to him. Like, I got some stuff I need sold. I need some money quick. They're like, I know a guy, he's just over the hill on Highway 11, and they go, just ask for Micah. Go to that building, ask for Micah, Bring them your stuff, and then they're stuff. What do you think?
Ben
How much are you trying to sell for? They're like 120 bucks. Oh, you got to hit up Ryan for that. How much you trying to sell for? 4 grand. You gotta hit up Micah for that. Because I remember. I remember when Ryan was known as the. I mean, I'm just like, oh, yeah, saying what you guys said. Ryan used to be known as a sucker, but that is all because he bought a shitty snowboard at heydays from a kid. Because you're being nice.
Ryan
I only bought one shitty snowboard, and the kid turned around and took the whole 120 bucks and spent it all on Seaboy's merch.
Ben
Oh, okay.
Ryan
Like the whole. The whole hundred and twenty bag.
CJ
That dude just hustled you. You guys watch Gary Vee's garage sailing videos at all? So Gary Vee is. Is a very, very wealthy man. Very wealthy. But he'll go into a garage sale and he'll Go. How much you want for this? I need five bucks. Best I can do is to kick some walks out and goes. Already checked ebay on this one. Bought it for two, going to sell it for 14. Add it to the next. Next garage sale.
Ben
I can see it. Just. That's what I'm saying. People do not pay what they're asking, ever. Don't pay what they're asking. What?
Mike
But why. Why with him? If he's got all that money, why is he trying to make 12 bucks? I don't know.
Ryan
It loves the game show like that.
Ben
You can.
Ryan
Even if you don't have money, you can make money. This is kind of his gimmick, like.
Ben
And the content made from that is worth a lot more than 12 bucks.
Ryan
Yeah.
Mike
Yeah, I suppose you're right.
Ryan
That guy's a meme.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
Unfortunately, I feel like if you just. If you get too deep in anything, you're a meme.
Ben
Actually, that. That is a good point, because I was like, I've never really met anyone. Or if I have, I'm like, I don't know if I can take them seriously if they're a true. Like, hey, have you listened to Gary Vee? You need to listen to Gary Vee. Oh, you need to listen to him, and you need to execute what he's telling you to do.
CJ
Is it ever anyone that's like, super.
Mike
Wealthy telling you to do that?
Ben
Or like, Right.
Ryan
I don't know anyone.
CJ
No, I actually don't know.
Mike
Yeah, you gotta. Gary Vee. You're like, wow, that's how you made a million bucks.
CJ
I thought you were gonna say, I've never met a meme in real life.
Ryan
Oh, man.
CJ
Yo, can we tell the John Wheeler story? All right. Right, you tell it.
Ryan
So we're at this place.
Ben
Who's John Wheeler?
Ryan
To preface, John Wheeler is the weatherman.
Ben
He's a local weather.
Ryan
Local weatherman.
CJ
Everybody.
Ryan
Everybody.
CJ
Everyone listening has one.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
You know, like, everyone has their local weatherman that's kind of a. Kind of a legend.
Ryan
And he's been weathermanning for, like, 40.
Ben
Years, so he's in a lot of people's lives.
Ryan
Yeah, everybody knows John Wheeler. So anyway, we're at a local bar, which is like a. Maybe a little more classy of an establishment and restaurant. Yeah, bar, restaurant. And. And the crowds overlap. You have kids that are there, like us getting Saturday night wasted, and you've also got businessmen and weather men and other adults there trying to get drunk. So I walk in the bathroom and John Wheeler is there using the bathroom. And there's like three or four guys kind of surrounding him, like, talking to him and stuff like that while he's pissing. Poor dudes. Yeah, got his johnson out, his John Wheeler out. He's got his John Wheeler out, you know, trying to just use the bathroom, be a normal guy. And these kids are kind of. They got him cornered in this bathroom and. And John, bless his soul, is a bit of a shorter stature guy, and they got him cornered in the bathroom. He looks panicked, right? And so I kind of go like, hey, fellas, fellas, back off, back off. And as I put my arm out, John Wheeler dips under my arm and runs and scurries out of the bathroom. And I don't really know how we twisted it from there, but I think it started that I told everybody that I just saved John Wheeler's life in the bathroom. And then I said we should go get shots in honor of him. And then now we always tell our friends to order a John Wheeler. And it's not a real shot, but.
CJ
Tint, last weekend when we were there, Tint went up to the bar and tried ordering a John. A round of John Wheelers. And the bartender was obviously very surprised and confused, tense, like, you know, you can see him across, like using his hands and like doing this, like, pointing back. And she's like, see it on her face. And then he turns around and we're standing there going, laughing at him.
Ryan
Yeah, I felt bad for the dude, you know, that was a meme. He was a local celebrity, but he is a meme now.
CJ
Yeah, just. Just name brings joy and laugh.
Ben
Luckily, like, he's not a meme because of anything that necessarily happened in the bathroom. He's just a meme because you saved him. And I love that it was you who saved him because you're like, listen, I. I get it. The guys in there were excited. I don't think they were trying to.
Ryan
No, they weren't trying to be me anything.
Ben
But they had them from. From one man in the spotlight to another. You saved him.
Ryan
No spotlight is bright as the Fargo weatherman Spotlight. Big deal.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
I think John Wheeler in the eyes of a lot of local people would be a much bigger star than us.
Ben
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Ryan
100.
CJ
Like, they know who he is.
Mike
That's the first step right there.
Ryan
So, yeah, they actually know who he is.
CJ
And that's the case with any weatherman, I believe.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
Or any TV personality.
Ryan
I did have a guy at the Roadhouse this weekend. He tried to. I was. I was peeing and he tried to dap me up and I was like, I, I'm busy right now. Like, I, I, we love talking to people, stuff like that. I've never, I don't think I've ever turned anyone down. But I was like, this is not the time, man.
Mike
What if three guys came in, cornered you while you were peeing?
Ryan
Well, fuck, I hope Dana Mock or fucking Too Tall. Tom Szymanski was there to say other weathermen.
Ben
I was hoping you'd bring Too Tall up. I love, I think the weathermen usually get the, like, they're not always, but they usually are like the cool ones. The other guys just tell the news.
Mike
They are. I feel like people are always mad at the weatherman. Like, like never, right. They're always complaining about him.
CJ
You think they blame it on them, though? Yeah, I don't know.
Mike
I don't think it's their fault in the slightest. But I think that people blame him. They're like, oh, yeah, he's always wrong. I, I change it to channel 10.
Ben
That's right. You get people that are like, yeah, it was supposed to rain. Oh, well, what are you watching? 11. Yeah, you shouldn't be watching that.
Ryan
You got go over to set.
Mike
I don't know if people say that anymore because now everyone checks their phone.
Ryan
But yeah, I do say weather bug is pessimistic. Weather bug is always saying it's going to rain. Apple Maps doesn't.
Ben
I mean, I check the weather, of course, a lot less than your average person. I just like to know the big like, oh, it's going to be hot tomorrow or cold tomorrow. Might rain, might not. Other than that, just whatever the day.
CJ
Brings, man, I've been so. I just like going into every single day not knowing like what we're going to end up doing that day or how things are going to go. I just, I found that I started bringing like three pairs of clothes.
Mike
You have to pair of pants, pair.
CJ
Of shorts, a swimsuit, a couple shirts. In case you ruin a couple of shirts or get sweaty and then it gets cold, you need the pants. I never know like, what's going on. So I'm just like travel around with a little duffel bag full of clothes.
Mike
Now I'm the same way.
Ben
Yeah. Especially in the changing seasons, like where you actually might need a coat, hat, gloves, boots. And then you go inside and you're like, oh, just need a T shirt.
Mike
Speaking of that, Ben, how's things going with your new house? Things are going because now you have to travel a little Bit further to get to work. So, I mean, I noticed you have.
Ryan
Been a little more late than normal.
Ben
Where are you staying there right now?
CJ
Yeah, I moved in last week.
Ben
I just. The last time I talked to you, which was last week, I guess, about it, we're like, you stay in there, and you're like, there's nothing in there.
CJ
Well, there still is nothing in there. So, yeah, I. I closed on the house, but they took everything out, which was kind of. Because I. It was like, in the contract, I thought. So I moved. First day, turnkey, move in. Nothing in there. I'll go, all right.
Mike
Double check that contract. Be like, yo, what the.
CJ
Yeah, I don't know.
Mike
I think it was supposed to have furniture with us.
CJ
After I got it inspected, if I came and kicked him in the nuts, then they were gonna, like, take it, whatever.
Ryan
Did you kick them in the nuts?
CJ
I mean, a little bit.
Mike
No, that's what happens.
CJ
Yeah.
Ben
The only thing turnkey about it was that the key turned.
CJ
Yeah.
Mike
Yeah.
CJ
It is funny, though. I feel like one of those stories about, like, the rappers that go out or the NFL players that go out and buy a big new house and they move in and there's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing in it.
Mike
And then card table and a couple chairs.
CJ
So, no, it's a work in progress. But, yeah, I'm still, like, sleep, I guess. I have a mattress, but it's on the ground.
Ryan
Is it really?
Ben
Dude, I was. Oh, my gosh.
Ryan
Hey, I was hoping.
CJ
Yeah, bro. That's all I have.
Ryan
Bed set. You're 24.
CJ
Yeah. But my thing now that I'm, like, finding is. Is I'm. I'm very indecisive on decorating and things like that. Yeah, bro, I'm not an interior decorator.
Ryan
That's true.
CJ
And I want to do it right, and I don't want to do it twice. So I'm like, I'm just not gonna do it until an interior designer, which is wild, because I. I never fully understood the draw of interior designer. I was, like, paying somebody to decorate. I can decorate that a lot harder than you think. A lot harder. And if you're okay with just. Just biting the bullet and just, like, paying them, it's gonna probably turn out a lot better than it would with you. And if it does turn out with you or if you do it, then you're not gonna like it, and you're gonna have to do it twice. So I'm like, I might as well just go that route.
Mike
How much is that gonna cost?
CJ
Though, I don't know.
Mike
I feel like that shit's expensive, I guess. Depends who you hire. But.
Ryan
Yeah, I feel like you just got to make up your mind of what you want your room to look like.
CJ
Well, yeah. Also, it's their job.
Ryan
Or just tell your budget to make up your mind.
Ben
Right.
CJ
Well, I found out. Well, that's what I thought, too. And Greta. I found out Greta is not an interior designer either. And she knows just as little as I do. I think, like, the blind leading the.
Ben
Blind, what people struggle with. Like, kind of what you said, just pick what you like and make your room. But I think my struggle would be then, okay, well, I can handle that. But what if all the things I like don't go together? And then the eyes of an interior designer definitely don't go together. But that's how I'm like, well, I like this, this, this, and this. And then you, like, put them in your room and you're like, it just looks like a high schooler design this.
CJ
And I guess, you know, a lot of people are probably on the wall. You know, it doesn't matter that much or who cares? But it's like.
Ryan
It does.
CJ
I mean, it kind of does. If. If I want to invite over, you know, people have the house halfway presentable. I don't want to be just like the dude that has no fucking idea what they're doing, which is exactly what. Where I'm at right now, that's done nothing. I met the neighbor, though. The neighbor came over last night, actually, and he goes, holy, you're here. And I was like, yeah, I told you I'm gonna be the best neighbor that you have, because I will never be here, because I haven't been there. And, yeah, he gave me a plate of cookies and goes, by the way, been watching your guys's videos. Gotta say, you guys are wild.
Ryan
Yeah, great. We actually are selling headquarters. We're moving into the garage right here. Yeah.
CJ
Yeah. And I was like, how many videos have you watched? And he was like, a couple. Then he started talking about videos from, like, last year. And I was like, oh, you've watched. You've watched quite a few. And he's like, yeah, it's about it. It's pretty much all we've been doing. Oh, my.
Ryan
Ever since they heard you're moving in the neighborhood. Yeah, I feel like that'd be really concerning. Like, I feel like that's not good research.
Mike
Yeah, no, it isn't. Yeah, I. I mean, it is, but it isn't.
CJ
I don't know, they were cool though. They were like, come on over, let's get some drinky poos and have a good time.
Ryan
I was like, sound like great neighbors and invited you over for drinks.
CJ
That's what I said. I go, yeah, you keep bringing cookies over and invite me over to get some beers with you. Yeah, this is gonna be a good relationship.
Ryan
I have a confession. I think I have a secret admirer. That isn't secret to me, but I know who she is. But I think I have a admirer who.
Ben
Not a stalker and admirer.
CJ
Oh my.
Ryan
Maybe. Maybe a stock.
Mike
What is this?
Ryan
It is the lady who makes our jerseys.
CJ
No.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
From China.
Ryan
Yeah, her name is Jenny.
Mike
I think.
Ryan
I think that's her. Her Americanized name. She. She recently just texted me and said a bunch of sad eyes emojis and said, hello, Ryan, you've been three months and not reply me. Haha. And then just. Just today, just today she responded three crying faces.
CJ
Oh, Ryan.
Ryan
Kind of blowing her off.
CJ
Ask her for her Venmo. You and Mike could both send her some money.
Ryan
We have sufficiently.
Ben
Yeah, I was like sufficiently ordered. How about this?
CJ
That's why she keeps calling you up.
Ben
I'll give her a New Jersey design, we'll call it even.
Ryan
But look at all these dudes.
Ben
My gosh.
CJ
So hold on. What's that selfie that you just sent right there?
Ryan
No, it's actually a shirt off. I just wear.
Ben
I want to preface that all the Chinese suppliers that we find ourselves going back and forth with, the ones I don't know, who knows, maybe they just use translate. Some of them I'm sure speak English. They are very forward and they're like, like, let's be friends. Yeah, like let's add me on WhatsApp. But they also, like, it's not like talking to a real person, which is weird. And this lady in particular to Ryan hits them up all the time and adds emotion to it for whatever reason when there shouldn't be emotion in. In any garment overseas deals or anything like that.
Ryan
Like the lady who does our flags. Cherry man, straight business.
CJ
Yeah, I bet a lot of people fall in love with Alibaba sellers.
Ryan
You think?
CJ
I can bet, dude.
Ben
Really?
CJ
Yeah, it's like a mail order. Bright.
Ryan
I work with them.
Ben
I don't.
Ryan
I've never even fallen in like with them. Although my boss at Corwin, the car dealership I used to work at, he worked in a different department, but he found a lady, she was a massage artist. Artist. And they. They fell in love and got married. But he was always. He was telling me shit. He was always sending her money, always sending money back home. And I was like, dude.
Mike
And did she ever come.
Ryan
You are getting scammed. Yeah, they got married.
CJ
America.
Ryan
They got married. If he'd listened to me, dude, they would have never been married. Because I was like, you are getting scammed for sure.
CJ
Speaking of getting scammed, Mike, whatever happened with your Surrons, dude, I wanna.
Ryan
I want those to get here.
Ben
Well, here, if this explains how it's going. I was on the world wide web yesterday, and I was looking at the new teleria, which is like the other Surron, and I'm like, man, the new ones look sick.
CJ
I should buy 12 of them.
Ben
No, I. No, no, absolutely not. I was looking on the legit site, and I go, man, I should probably just buy one legitimately for the regular price that they are, and it'll probably.
Ryan
Show up, most likely.
Ben
So, yeah, to answer your question, like, I mean, no, they. They kept reaching back out. They're like, yo, you need to pay the customs charge. And then I was like, I don't want to pay that much money for bikes that I didn't order, you know?
Ryan
So did you ask, like, get your money back or anything like that?
Ben
Yeah, and they were. Then. Then that's when they get quiet. I'm like, I would love to cancel this and get a refund and you can ship it back. Ship the 11 bikes back. So essentially, yeah, I was like, please. I paid for the one. Clear the one. Ship it here. I even. I said this. I didn't plan on. I was like, I'll even pay more for you to somehow split that up. I just want to pay to ship this bike here because that bike is already owned by me. If. If for some reason the other 10 bikes did get cleared for free, I still technically have to pay for them. I mean, I know once they're in possession, like, who knows? I'm not trying to be scummy. I'm not trying to scam anyone. If I had 11 bikes here, I would feel comfortable paying for them because I could just resell them. But, yeah, I just chalked that up as an L, which I kind of did the first time I brought it up.
CJ
How much money I.
Ben
Three grand total, man. So I think that is. Yeah. So the. The new to Larry's, it came out 4,500 and that. Oh, cool. Well, if I buy that, I'm 8,500 into my e bike, essentially, all because I wanted to get a 450 save. Yeah, yeah. Because I wanted to.
Ryan
It is a bummer because I really thought that you were just one day it was just gonna show up in a box. I had a little bit of faith.
Ben
I think I would have rather have just been scammed. Honestly, I would have rather.
Ryan
You were scammed.
Ben
Well, yes. Well, yeah, I guess.
CJ
But then you got what you wanted.
Mike
You gave him the money and you got ripped by.
Ben
I would. It's like, I would have rather.
CJ
Do you think happened.
Ben
I would have rather have been like, okay, cool, you ship the bike. And then they're like, yeah, we did. And then they didn't do anything.
CJ
But that's exactly what they know.
Ben
You're.
CJ
I see what you're saying.
Ben
You're torn up.
Mike
You're like, do I give him the money and maybe. Or am I.
Ben
No, yeah, yeah, there's that.
CJ
I'm saying, who's scamming you?
Ben
Essentially, the shipping company. Not the.
CJ
Did they send it though?
Ben
Send what?
CJ
No. You still think that they actually sent the surron and to get the one Surron, you have to pay for the other 11. But I don't think they sent anything.
Ben
Oh, then.
CJ
Because the track. The tracking information that you got that they sent Ken looked up and it was like, what, a bag that was shipped air or something like that? Like, it wasn't that. I don't think they sent anything.
Ben
And that's what's weird is then. Well, yeah, maybe they're completely working in collaboration with each other. I'm just saying I wish, like, where did this whole. We shipped 11 bikes come from? Like, I'm like, 11? Why is there 11? And then I had the shipping company's.
CJ
Like, that's how many mic.
Ben
That's how. That's how many you ordered. So you got to clear the shipment. All of its effed. Because then why would they ask me to pay? Yeah, I mean, like, it's obviously a scam. I feel dumb. But why would they ask me to pay to clear one bike? And then they were like, cool, thanks for payment. You want to pay to clear the other 10?
Ryan
Because.
Ben
And then that's when I was like, what? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I wish. I wish I just would have been like, yep, we shipped it. Cool. And then they just like never spoke to me again.
Ryan
Yeah.
Ben
It's so much easier to chalk up.
CJ
As an L. It's tough because we order a bunch of stuff from China.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
And Alibaba.
Ben
That's where it came from. My false. My false trust was absolutely from. From ordering some custom stuff. We've done Overseas. And we've had good luck. We send wires across the world to China and we get product, but not this time.
CJ
Pretty good ratio.
Ben
Yeah.
Ryan
Still waiting on the underwear that Ken ordered a bunch of years ago.
CJ
Hey, are you going to get our money back from those? I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding.
Jenny
Never sent a full wire. I just got sent for a sample.
CJ
No, you said no. You sent half of the sample or half of the wire.
Ryan
That was like 500 bucks, but I.
CJ
Think it was 750.
Ben
It's not always legit. I think that is sometimes where maybe we have the. I wouldn't even say it like this, but maybe we have an upper hand taking the risk to do that stuff. I really do love Alibaba and what. You can go on there and get anything you want made. And if you do have the money, ships and trains, anything that you want. I mean, like. Like cups and socks and fake cats and desks and wheels and exhaust and anything that you want made, you can get made there. And, you know, there's some minimum order quantity, but you got to take the risk because not all of it's legit.
CJ
Yeah, I think that's how, like, most people drop ship, like everything you buy off of Amazon that some kid is sitting in their basement. Drop shipping comes from Alibaba.
Ben
But at least it's really important to establish a relationship, because once you have some product in hand, you, one, know that they'll give you something for the money that you give them, and two, know that it's good. Then you kind of locked in. Then you can kind of like.
CJ
And then you start getting weird texts late at night, like, Ryan.
Ben
That's true. I would say with the jersey lady, we are locked in. We can send her a. A design, and she's kind of, like, going to work the next day.
CJ
A little confused on the shirtless picture.
Ryan
But how do you get our jerseys extra fast?
Ben
We have a surprise merch drop that's in two days. Could we get jerseys for it? Ryan's like, if I send her a dick picture. I'm just kidding.
CJ
I'm just kidding.
Ryan
I did not.
CJ
I will hand deliver.
Ben
His own.
CJ
Is Ryan. Is there.
Ryan
I didn't say any dick pics. Any Chinese ladies?
Ben
Wait, can. Can you play a video to end this out before we wrap? This is how I would explain. This isn't the Ovan. He just does impressions. This is how I would explain to someone what it's like listening to Theo Vaughn without actually, like, knowing who he is.
Riley
Pull up a pregnant woman doing a Damn backflip while they pull up a picture of the American flag dipped in some damn chocolate. Pull up a damn ferret trying to kick a meth habit. Dude, pull up a damn watermelon with a doctorate in political science. Pull up a picture of Riley. See if we can find a picture of the face of Satan. Dude. See if we can find him. Pull up how many hot dogs you can eat in public back to back without getting looked at. Pictures of all the different Pokemon with down center. I think we could rally. Pull that up. See if you can find a picture, maybe a video of it. What happens if a teddy bear suddenly gains consciousness? Look up how long you can live on a strictly sea monkey's diet.
CJ
I don't know what you probably find now.
Riley
Riley, Google if. Google if chickens can be bisexual. Pull up if somebody's bodily composition can be somewhat made of helium. Riley, find out what. What percentage of felines are lesbians. Riley, pull up the statistics on how many Keebler elves overdosed on opioids in 2013.
CJ
Tell them how many times you can.
Riley
Punch a nun before you get sent to hell. Dude, can we get forgiveness on everything or just r. Pull up the face of God, See if we can find his face. Yeah, r. Pull up a picture of that.
Mike
See what?
Riley
Search for if Grendel from Beowulf had a offshore bank account that came.
CJ
What?
Ryan
Dude, Spoton impres impression. Yeah.
Ben
Theovon is an incredible man.
CJ
Love that guy. All righty.
Ryan
Sounds good. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks for watching.
Episode Date: June 13, 2023
This episode of Life Wide Open is a classic, freewheeling roundtable with the CboysTV crew (Ryan, Ben, CJ, Mike, and others), covering everything from podcasting trends and guilty pleasure music to thoughts on time management, tech, social media memes, and behind-the-scenes CboysTV stories. The group keeps the energy high, with plenty of inside jokes, good-natured roasting, and candid insights into their personal habits, business, relationships, and current events. The tone is irreverent and conversational, bringing listeners into the heart of the friend group.
Rise of Podcasts (00:15–02:20)
Podcast vs. Music in Car (02:20–03:15)
Musical Guilty Pleasures (03:52–08:59)
Tech for Group Listening (06:24–07:10)
Aging Out of Music Eras (08:40–09:02)
Apple VR Headset & Tech Advances (09:09–10:49)
Phones & Parenting (12:05–13:56)
Old-School Living vs. Now (16:43–20:18)
Handling Hectic Schedules (20:14–22:23)
Obsessive Focus & Burnout (21:54–22:23)
Corporate Memes & Social Media Strategy (28:23–34:45)
Meme Literacy (34:45–36:33)
Social Media Usage (37:03–39:44)
Facebook Marketplace Addiction (40:04–41:09)
Cboys Marketplace/Reselling Stories (41:09–42:53)
Alibaba and Trust Issues (55:04–61:36)
The John Wheeler Story (43:28–45:44)
Fame, Public Encounters, and Boundaries (46:36–47:06)
Fun, self-aware, authentic, and slightly chaotic, with a heavy dose of friendship banter and tongue-in-cheek Midwest humor. The crew’s discussions oscillate between serious reflections (business, work-life balance, technology) and comic absurdity/inside jokes. Even moments that seem throwaway often contain nuggets of wisdom about creative business, friendship, and growing up.
A perfect episode for fans of behind-the-scenes stories, meme culture, and honest takes on navigating young adult life while running an unconventional business.