The Real Reason Jake Left CboysTV

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Real Reason Jake Left CboysTV

Podcast: Life Wide Open with CboysTV
Episode Date: August 22, 2023
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Ken, Evan, Micah (CboysTV), and guest Jake Sherbrooke

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Episode Overview

In this candid, long-awaited episode, the CboysTV crew welcomes founding member Jake Sherbrooke. Together, they discuss the real story behind Jake's departure from the group, exploring behind-the-scenes struggles, business mistakes, personal growth, friendship, and what the journey has meant to everyone. The conversation is full of laughs, raw honesty, and lessons learned over nearly a decade of creating together.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background: How CboysTV Formed (04:00–09:00)

• The Cboys reminisce about the group's origins: seven childhood friends from Cormorant, Minnesota, who turned their weekend shenanigans into a YouTube channel in 2016.
• Early days were described as “just us doing us,” with no clear direction but a lot of fun and improvisation.
• YouTube started paying off slowly, with their first earnings ($1,100) splitting equally among the seven.
• Lesson: Business transparency and equality were key early on, but splitting ownership among seven brought unique challenges later.

2. The MTV Show Pitch and Meeting "Bob" (10:11–17:00)

• The group was courted by a producer (pseudonymously “Bob”), who offered dreams of an MTV or Discovery Channel show.
• Bob convinced them to take time off YouTube to film a TV pilot, which ultimately wasted months and went nowhere.
• “At the time, it really felt like that was the big break... we thought it was the biggest deal” — CJ (10:30)

3. The Management Split: Bob's Return and the Vote (17:00–22:00)

• "Bob" returned, now offering YouTube management rather than a TV show, promising to scale their channel and profits.
• Jake, feeling uncertain about his personal growth in CboysTV, was the biggest advocate for “Bob,” hoping for mentorship and business opportunity.
• The team voted not to bring “Bob” on. Jake felt outnumbered and conflicted about his future.

4. Jake’s Decision to Leave & Emotions Behind It (22:00–27:00)

• Jake: “I felt like I wasn’t growing as a person... just chasing a dopamine rush of having fun.” (30:55)
• He felt he was at a crossroads between taking over his family business, staying with CboysTV, or trying something new.
• Ultimately, Jake decided to leave, persuaded by “Bob’s” promises of mentorship and a greenlit show (which didn’t exist).
• Emotional moment: “Breaking up with your girlfriend just to try some other chick out. I just wanted to see if the grass was greener.” — Jake (26:08)
• Crew recalls this felt like a best friend moving away for college; the breakup was difficult for everyone.

5. Clean Exit Turns Legal: Lawsuits and Tensions (37:00–44:00)

• Jake asked for nothing in his exit: “I don’t want any money. Just cut me out.” (38:00)
• Legal drama ensued as Bob prolonged Jake’s exit, causing costly lawyer fees and business interruptions.
• “If you hadn’t signed the $1 share transfer, the group might have had to fold. That was huge.” — CJ (39:33)
• Emotions soured as outside voices and lawyers made the split more painful and public.

Notable Quote

“It was everybody else that... can really be the downfall... It wasn’t what we were saying to each other—it was what other people told us we should be feeling.” — (45:16)

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6. Jake’s Post-CboysTV Struggles: The Chicago Move & Bob’s Empty Promises (53:30–66:30)

• Bob brought Jake to Chicago, but instead of filming content, Jake was doing house chores, “pressure washing his roof” (55:38).
• No videos were produced for months. Promised show deals (especially the now-defunct Quibi) fell through.
• Jake returned to Minnesota, broke and disillusioned, with only merch designs to show.

7. Burned Bridges, Public Drama, and Rebuilding Reputation (47:00–55:00, 68:00–75:00)

• Jake released a viral video burning CboysTV merch, which led to massive online backlash and local drama.
• “When you burnt those shirts, people were hating on us… that was my rock bottom.” — Ben (46:25)
• The departure motivated CboysTV to become more professional and strategic; they focused on outlasting the negativity.

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8. Lawsuit Aftermath & Personal Growth (68:00–90:00)

• Jake tried to sever ties with Bob legally. Bob responded with a $400,000 claim for “lost time.”
• Jake: “I gotta open up a new chapter… I just burned every bridge and spent all my money…” (68:01)
• Lawsuit dragged on for nearly two years, causing mental health struggles and business headaches.
• Jake started therapy and adopted better habits: “Started going to church, gym, quit jacking off, ice baths, therapy every week. I’ve just been freaking dialed.” (29:29)
• “You definitely are looking the best, the most healthy I’ve ever seen you in my life.” — CJ (29:53)

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9. Business Lessons: Jake’s New Path and the Bums Sunglasses Brand (80:00–90:00)

• After firing Bob, Jake linked up with business mentor Anthony and started the Bums sunglasses company.
• “I finally got the mentor I was looking for in the beginning—someone who actually did business.” (80:58)
• With cousin Cody and new partner Anthony, Jake found fulfillment selling sunglasses and running his own business.
• They celebrate reaching beyond YouTube: “The last winner didn’t even know who we were!” (84:36)

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10. Jake on Solo YouTube vs. The Group (90:14–93:00)

• “You wear a lot of hats, dude. It’s insane… full time, seven days a week… you gotta be dialed.” (90:14)
• Reflects on the challenge of producing, editing, marketing, and shipping with just two people (Jake and Cody).
• Lessons in maintaining work-life balance, planning content, and the importance of teamwork.

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11. Reconciliation and Getting Older (126:40–133:00)

• Both Jake and the CboysTV team apologize sincerely for hurt caused four years prior. There’s a sense of closure and mutual respect.
• “Karma kicked me… you guys got the Lambo, I got stuck in a Viking costume.” — Jake (129:16)
• Discussion on getting older, nostalgia for early days, and commitment to making the most of the present:
  “You’re only going to be as young as you are today… we don’t have to grow up.” — CJ (131:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On leaving:
  “Breaking up with your girlfriend for literally, like, because you’re just gonna go try some other chick out… I was just a lost puppy.” — Jake (26:08)

• On Bob (“the manager”):
  “You guys dodged a bullet, like, so heavily. I wish you could experience what I had to experience… It was terrible.” — Jake (14:50)

• On maturity:
  “Now that I’m not there, we do all kinds of stuff together that is just non work related… I don’t think my relationship with my dad has ever been stronger.” — Jake (97:30)

• On therapy and improvement:
  “In the last two months, I’ve just been freaking dialed, you know… I went from 225 to 181.6 this morning.” — Jake (29:29, 29:58)

• Aftermath and peace:
  “I gotta say it where I mean it… I am sorry to you guys. Karma kicked me… But at the end of the day, you guys got the Lambo and I was in a Viking costume.” — Jake (129:16)
  “It’s all water under the fridge now, you know?” — Ryan (129:53)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Origins / Backstory: 04:00–09:00
• Show Biz, “Bob,” and the First Split: 10:11–22:00
• Jake’s Decision and Emotional Fallout: 22:00–27:00
• Merch Burning & Legal Battles: 47:00–75:00
• Bob Lawsuit and Rebuilding: 68:00–90:00
• New Business & Bums Sunglasses: 80:00–90:00
• Solo YouTube, Lessons Learned: 90:14–93:00
• Apologies & Reflections: 126:40–133:00
• Nostalgia & Moving Forward: 133:00–end

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is a mix of heartfelt vulnerability, hilarious storytelling, and brutally honest life advice. The group’s camaraderie and willingness to air their past struggles make for a uniquely real discussion on friendship, business, and growing up in the social media spotlight.

Key Lessons:

• Trust your gut when evaluating business opportunities.
• Communication and transparency are vital (especially in business and friendship).
• Growth requires the pain of mistakes—but brings lessons that last a lifetime.
• Mental health matters; asking for help is part of moving forward.
• Nostalgia is nice, but keep living in the present and building for the future.

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Links:

• Jake Sherbrooke YouTube
• CboysTV YouTube
• Bums Sunglasses

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This episode stands out as a must-listen for anyone interested in YouTube culture, creative entrepreneurship, or the complexities of real friendship under pressure.

Transcript

[A]

The three Instagram videos were awesome.

[B]

Despite the fact of the whole ruining of the friendship and making it really weird.

[C]

I don't feel necessarily old, but Hairline does.

[D]

Yeah, every other person's a YouTuber in this.

[B]

I get the question. Still, to this day, you wish you never left.

[C]

You want Celsius?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Hey, can you grab me one, too?

[B]

Some water stuff kind of doing it, you know? Need that extra.

[D]

Need that extra. I can go grab extra pop.

[A]

Yeah, that extra Zamboni. Oh, my Lord.

[D]

Happening.

[A]

All right, right now we need everyone's guesses how long this gonna be. Like, how long are we gonna talk? Like, when do you.

[C]

I think, like, it just goes as long as it goes. There's a lot of, like, over decade of. Of stuff we could cover here. I mean, more than coming up.

[A]

Yeah, it's literally two.

[C]

Jake, is this your first pod?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Ever?

[B]

Like, I mean, we rolled some for fun at home, but they didn't go anywhere.

[C]

All right, boys, we're here.

[E]

We're doing it.

[D]

We're really doing it.

[C]

The time has come.

[D]

Dude, this is hands down been the most requested podcast since we started the podcast, what, two years ago now?

[E]

Yep.

[D]

About a hundred episodes. 90 some episodes in. Bring Jake on. Bring Jake on. Bring Jake on. And I'm gonna be honest, bro, you're one of my best friends, and I'm kind of nervous.

[A]

I'm glad someone said something. On my way over here, I like, pulled over.

[B]

I'm like, why are you freaking out?

[C]

It's a heavy one. Just because there's so much to cover.

[B]

Yeah, I was literally what I was thinking. I'm just like, at the end of the day, like, we're all best friends, but there's just so much untold unsaid, so much stuff going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not worried about.

[C]

I'm not worried about anything. But I think what makes it nerve wracking is that there's. We just want to tell it the full thing, you know, and tell it is accurate. Like, I'd hate for it to end and be like, why didn't. Why didn't I bring up that point? You know, I think that's what everyone maybe is thinking. All right.

[D]

Gosh, I don't know. I guess to add a little bit of context for the listeners. This is Jake Sherbrooke.

[C]

He is one of the.

[D]

The founding members of C Boys TV.

[B]

And we split ways, what, three years, 780,000 subscribers. You guys want to know something crazy? You have more followers that probably don't Know who I am than.

[C]

But I guess. Are you sure it was 780?

[B]

Yeah, it was 780. It was on April 12, 2020.

[D]

Yeah. We've never told the story of, I guess, what happened between the splitting between Seaboys and Jake. And here we are.

[B]

Time to get to tell it.

[D]

Time to tell the story.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Wasn't there kind of like you couldn't come on for a while?

[B]

Yeah. So that was the thing. So we're going to get into the beans of all this, but basically, I could have came on right away and then ended up getting in, like, a massive lawsuit. And then everything gets into, like, disclosures, and you can't talk about anything. And, you know, it just all got super messy. Like, do you guys remember the time I came over here and you're like, hey, when can you get on the pod? I'm like, probably August. That was two years ago.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So you've been in a lawsuit up until last month?

[B]

Yeah, a couple months ago.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

It's crazy.

[D]

See, I. I've been refraining to even ask you, like, in real life, you know, what the details of that are. So I'm. I shouldn't say excited to hear, but also very intrigued to hear the story behind it. But, gosh, I don't know. Where do we start?

[C]

Well, I mean, I think we could start with. I mean, part of the reason why you left also ties in with, you know, the guy who's been holding you back from getting on the podcast now for the last two years, who you were in the lawsuit against. I mean, where do we start?

[A]

Do we.

[B]

Because we can. We can say anything, tell the whole story. Do we just want to, like, give a background of how this person came about?

[C]

We could start there. Or we could even start from, like, just the good old days, back before we were even making YouTube vids. Just kind of give the backstory to.

[A]

Dude, I can't believe you said that.

[B]

I literally created a timeline. 2016, 20.

[A]

All the way up until the day.

[D]

All right, let me see it. All right, what do we got?

[A]

Well, they're basically. So.

[B]

They're kind of just footnotes of key points I want to talk to, but basically, like, 2016. We started Seabo TV.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So Seaboys TV started building. Basically, we have been best friends. There's a group of seven of us. We all lived in a town called Cormorant. Cormrant has a gas station, a liquor.

[C]

Store, and a bar.

[D]

There wasn't many people in the town. It's a village. There's actually no people in the town. So all the people that are our age, we were best friends. There was seven of us. Us four sitting right here. Micah behind there. Ken, who is walking behind right now as well, and then our friend Justin. People ask, how did you guys start.

[C]

Like, doing the things that you do.

[D]

Like in the videos? And I'm like, dude, we've been. We've been doing the things that we do in the videos since we were 10 years old. We just never filmed them until CJ picked up a camera because he had bad concussions. He couldn't ride a dirt bike drift, the cars being in whatever we were doing. So he started filming it.

[C]

Yeah, that was kind of my way of getting in beings involved still. And. And. But not all. Not doing, like, you know, like crashing cars into each other and whatever.

[E]

And I feel like people always were like, you guys should have a TV show. You know, like, all the stuff that we were doing at that time, YouTube wasn't as prevalence. Everyone was like, you guys need to be on tv.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, we do.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

We always thought that our group dynamic and our. Our friendship was something special that something that you would see on tv. And therefore, we always thought that we had something. And then once the video started coming out, people were entertained. It turned from basically the seven best friends just doing our weekend shenanigans for fun into making a video and really having no direction or really any idea on how to make a proper YouTube video. But what we were really good at was just having fun.

[C]

At that point, it was more. So we were just doing whatever we were doing on the weekend. And I was just horrible hauling this camera around with a strap on my neck. I was so worried about breaking. It was like a 500 camera. And we'd bring it around and just film legitimately everything, whether it was like, good, bad, whatever, you know, just.

[A]

It was just us doing us no.

[B]

Matter what it was.

[C]

And it was kind of like these videos were almost for us. Like, it was just fun to watch. And they would end up on YouTube. And then very slowly, it just started gaining following. And it was kind of like a snowball. It was like. And then there's this little audience. And then it was kind of like, well, now we. We had this positive reinforcement behind, and we're like, we got to keep making more. And it was fun. It was like a game growing it, you know?

[D]

Hey, Ryan, real quick, can you switch sides with me? My neck is so up. I can't, like, look this way.

[A]

Yeah, I can do that.

[C]

His next jam from the Mini Truck Flip.

[B]

I swear I put on deodorant, and it's not that bad.

[C]

Sweat.

[B]

Is that better?

[D]

Tell me about your seat. Yeah, that's way better.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I moved the bad seat. Welcome, bro.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

Oh, this feels way better.

[D]

Yeah. So I. I guess it needed to be said kind of where our, you know, the foundation of C Boys started. You know, people think that we've been making videos, and that's, you know, the. The. We were never friends before. I guess what they see video like, week after week. But like, the things that we do now, we've been doing since we were little kids, and we were just best friends having a good time when we started making the videos. And I remember we had a paycheck come in December of 2016, going into 2017, and it was for like out of the whole year, I think we'd made, what, $800?

[C]

It was like 11 or 1200 bucks. But technically we hadn't been going that long because when I made the channel, it was like end of July. And then when we posted the one video that actually made some revenue, it was in, like, beginning of September, by the time it probably took off, maybe October. So, like, all that revenue was really just from that one shifter cart vid that popped off. And when I say popped off, it maybe had like a hundred thousand views, but.

[D]

And then, so we had to basically incorporate, make a LLC to collect that eleven hundred dollars. And then we didn't know what to do with it because we were like, who gets what? So we just donated it. We bought toys or whatever, made a video with that. But at that moment, Ken was like, if we're going to start an llc, who's going to be a part of it? And we were just like, well, all seven of us, that's the only thing that makes sense.

[C]

And we just split it seven ways, evenly across the board.

[D]

Yeah, I think everyone had like 4, 14% or something like that. And then that was the start of C Boys TV as a company, as. As like kind of what it is now. But, you know, seven partners. And that's kind of where the problem.

[C]

Well, I mean, I think the development.

[A]

Of something great is what it was.

[C]

Absolutely.

[D]

And.

[C]

And people have asked that. I mean, I even hear it sometimes now, like, if I get talking to some old guy about business and. And how do you make that work, you know, with seven or five or whatever. But I mean, the whole point of it is because then everyone's got equal, you know, Gain and equal loss.

[D]

So like.

[C]

Because, I mean, if there was just, let's say one or two owners, then it's like the way all of us work is like you don't want to. You want to be, you know, at least have some control or whatever.

[B]

You go up together and you go down.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Everyone's got their. Everyone's got to pull their side.

[C]

Yeah. So it just seemed that was the best way to do it. And it was from there, you know.

[D]

We started to get a little bit of traction. We're making videos, we're starting to kind of figure out what we're doing. Kinda.

[C]

I don't know if I'd say starting well.

[D]

I mean, we were at least on the right track.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then this guy comes into our life and pitches us this TV show.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

Which?

[A]

Goosebumps, bro. Come on.

[C]

Yeah, we were pumped though.

[A]

Yeah, we were. We were.

[B]

At the time, like at the age.

[A]

We were, it was something big. No one has got something like that.

[B]

And YouTube in front of them.

[C]

And YouTube wasn't quite as big as it is now. I think we could kind of see where it was going, but it still wasn't quite as big. And being on MTV seemed or. Or another big network like that seemed like that's the big break, you know, like that's like the. The end all, be all type of thing. So we thought it was just the biggest deal. And I remember just sitting on these like, zoom phone calls, just geeking out.

[D]

Well, it started out with they pitched us that they were gonna give us an MTV show. And then it turned into like Discovery Network and then it turned into like Planet, like the Weather Channel. The Weather Channel. Or like Animal Planet or something. Where's this going now? The worst part was is that we.

[F]

Like were really close to the MTV show and we didn't get it because we weren't diverse enough. You can guess.

[C]

I don't know how accurate that is.

[F]

Okay, you're right, you're right. But that one seemed like it was the closest and we were obviously more most excited about that. And then from there, yeah, it was just like Discovery, Animal, Animal Planet. Like, what would we do on Animal Planet?

[D]

So that guy that, that came in and pitched the show, it's called Bob.

[B]

I like that. Yes, we Bob. Perfect.

[D]

So Bob comes in, pitches the show. We take basically like a month off of YouTube videos. And at the time, it really didn't make that much of a difference because we were a lot smaller, didn't really have a schedule or anything like that. But we filmed these. It's called a pilot episode, and it takes forever. Sucked. The ideas were terrible.

[C]

I mean, how long after the initial talkings was it that we actually got to the pilot episode? Like a year? Or was it two?

[B]

It was a long time. I'm trying to think it, dude. The problem is it all just gets so slammed together. But I'm pretty sure we, like, started the talking, and then it wasn't till, like, we had our new shop when we started filming the pilot episode. Yeah, because I was trying to figure out all of that, and we were, like, using the shop and the Maverick and going out on DL and doing all that stuff.

[E]

So Bob comes in and starts working on this TV show. We filmed the pilot episode. It ends up not really going anywhere. And then.

[B]

And then. This is, like, the craziest part that I always wonder about, but me and Ben were sitting in the shop. Do you remember this, bro?

[D]

I remember it like it was yesterday.

[B]

We.

[D]

We had just gotten our truck wrapped.

[B]

Everything.

[D]

The Duramax. We were sitting in the Duramax in the shop, and we were feeling good. We just got off some merch sales. We were, like, coming to the end of the year and made some money that year. We were like, damn, things are, like, going pretty good right now. And then that call came in.

[B]

Yeah, A call came in from Bob, and it's me and Ben. We get in the truck, we just set it up, and we just, like.

[D]

He basically goes, how you guys doing?

[A]

Yeah, like, can we go like a. Like a what's up? Call, you know?

[B]

And basically he is like, I got some ideas or whatever and, you know, want to run by you guys and blah, blah, blah, and basically wanted to, like, come back. And that's when he said he wanted to, like, do something with all of us. Right. And I'm trying to figure out how to integrate to, like, the audience of my mindset at the time. And I don't want to say it was, like, good or bad, but I was just in a. Kind of a weird headspace, you know? And anyway, so this guy comes and basically says he wants to manage all of us, you know, and pulls our parents aside.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, was talking to my dad and your dad and was like, I want to manage them and here's what I can do for them. And, like, promised. Basically promised the world, like a lot of these people do for anyone. I guess, in our position. There's going to be so many people that try and get their greasy little fingers on you to. To, like. Because he saw Something good because he was talking to us. How are things going? And we were like, things are going great. We, we, you know, we're selling merch. The views were doing well. We finally were getting traction and, and like had something good. And he almost saw that as like a opportunity to like, we were snowballing, like, get in on it, like.

[B]

And dude, here's the thing, and I'm going to say this right now because obviously we're going to go through a bunch of ups and downs in this. You guys dodged a bullet, like so heavily. So like the amount of. Oh my God, I wish you guys, I actually don't wish you could experience what I had to experience through that entire time. It was terrible.

[C]

So that was after we shot the pilot episode and we spent like, it was probably more like two months doing this pilot episode. And I mean, I guess I'll speak personally for from my point. It was just a shitty ass episode. Like, it just wasn't that good. Yes, I never got picked up. It never got picked up, of course, but it took us like two months of time. And I guess speaking from my point of view, after spending that amount of time with him and watching this guy work and actually seeing him work versus listening talk on the phone about how he can do all this stuff for us and how he's going to make us rich and all famous and all this, then when he showed up and it was time to like get to filming, he didn't, in my opinion, I don't think he knew what he was doing.

[B]

And that's the thing, like you called it from the start and I'll never remember that, but I'm going to be like fully honest, transparent. I was straight, bamboozled and was drinking the Kool Aid, obviously.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so basically we did that pilot episode and it never got picked up. And then he came back in again. I finally thought we got rid of this guy because I was so annoyed of him because it seemed like every time he came in he would hold up making YouTube vids. And we were at this stage, I'm like, we need to just keep pounding the pavement, keep growing this channel. Like we're going to get to this. And then he would just be here selling this fucking came to be a pipe. Yeah, you guys are going to be rich. And I guess also to keep in mind, like at that time we weren't making money, like individually, like we were maybe selling some merch, but we had, I mean, by the time it was all done, being that we had a distributor that was doing it. It was like we were really taking no money in our pocket.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Which we, you know, later figured out. And then once you do the numbers, there's a lot of stuff you learn when you're doing this as time goes on. Then we ended up pulling it in, but like, I mean we were maybe making like 1900 bucks a month individually, like all of us, wouldn't you say?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So like we were hungry and we were looking for anything to cling on to, to make this work. So I can understand why you and even some of the other guys would, would be like, like, please, like, yes, we've been trying, like we want this, you know, so it was easy to be bamboozled in that, like you said. I guess in that sense, yeah.

[F]

I think that's one thing that's good to preface is like that. I mean, I was like half and half on it. I, I didn't have the read that you did either. And I was like, I mean, I think I'll listen, I'll hear him out. And it at the end of the day came to a majority vote. But it was never like Jake's vouching in your headspace and we're all like, nah, I mean, it was like we chatted about it and we, we, we went back and forth for a little bit. You know, we had some in person meetings and ultimately we took a vote.

[E]

It's a complex conversation to have for a bunch of 19 year olds. You know, we were young and we're.

[C]

Going through it, but basically what ended up happening was he came back in and he said the, like you said, the managing thing, he wants to manage us now and manage our YouTube channel. So he's not going to make a TV show for us anymore. He wants to manage our YouTube channel and then like try to pitch us to like some other company.

[B]

Right. So this might be fast forwarding, but then we can come back. So basically how our structure was going to be, we were basically, from what I was told, greenlit for a show with like other cast members. And we were going to use those funds to then build the channel or whatever.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Well, obviously none of that happened, of course, but that was like the whole thought process behind when it came to all of us and me is like, we'll get these shows or whatever, do these pilots and then we'll use those to grow the channel and whatnot.

[C]

And you were closest with them because you guys were kind of like more buddies, I think. And he was kind of buddies with your dad. Over the course of time, of spending time with you guys. Yeah. You guys were buddies. You were probably more in with him than us, and that's.

[D]

Yeah, but he loved Jake. Yeah, he looked at Jake like his. His little superstar. That's what he saw. Like, he. He came in, wanted to manage us, and then it got to the point where we were like, all right, we got to take a. We got to take a vote. Are we bringing them on or are we not? Jake really wanted them, and CJ really didn't want him. So I felt like I was in the middle of, like, I have to, like, sway the decision of Ken, Micah, and Ryan with these guys. All right, which way are we going? And then it. I just went with C.J. and I went with you, and I took both of them, and my gut was just like, I don't have a good feeling about this guy. And I went with my gut. And I told Micah, I told Ken, and I told. I told. I told everyone. I said, my gut goes with CJ and that I don't have a good feeling about this guy. And that's kind of where everyone else was like, you know, it just doesn't feel right either. And I remember getting done with that meeting of everyone being like, all right, I guess it's just not the right fit. It doesn't feel right. And then we thought that's where it ended. And I remember you walking out of that meeting and going. Sitting in your truck, and you hopped on the phone, and who'd you call? Did you call after that? Do you remember that meeting of all of us being like, it's just not gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna bring them on.

[B]

That's the thing is, like. Like, my mindset was so different then, but it. Like, obviously, it doesn't change anything, but, like, I just. I didn't really know how to feel or what to feel because, you know, like, beforehand, everyone's, like, thinking about it and whatnot, you know? And then, like, I come into this meeting because I don't know if I was working for my dad or whatever. And then you just.

[D]

Like.

[B]

I remember you up at the whiteboard, and you dropped this bomb on me, and you're like, yeah, we're not doing it. And I was like, oh, I thought yesterday we were. And, like, it. Like, we talked about it, but I. Like, there was obviously a meeting beforehand, which, like, I get. I'm not. I wasn't there every day, all day. I was doing other stuff. But, yeah, I don't know. It was, like, prior to that. Because I was in talking to Ryan, too, and you probably remember this, he'd just be like, dude, like, what's going on? Like, are you down? Or whatever. And I just, like, something felt off with me. And it wasn't that, like, I wasn't having fun because, like, when we go out and film, like, I had a ton of fun and I loved all of that stuff, but I felt like I wasn't growing myself as a person, as, like a business person learning things, you know, stuff like that. I just felt like I was growing this character Persona that, like, was still me, but it wasn't me all the time. And I just didn't want to lose. Live that my whole life, you know? That's when I was just like, I think I'm gonna go on a chance here, you know, and try something different. And then it was April 12th. I brought all you guys up into Mike's room, and I, like, told you guys I was leaving. And then April 13 was the last video I filmed with you guys at Tom's store when we all pretended to work there.

[D]

So you went to said, they don't want to bring you on, but I want to.

[B]

Because the day I told you guys was obviously the day that, like, a decision was made or whatever, that, like, something was going to happen, something was in place, there was a plan, right? And, like, there was a show greenlit. And I was obviously pitched this grand rainbow of a master plan, you know, And I was just like, you know, like, I. I think I want to do this. Maybe it's like the next step into, like, having a mentor in life or, like, learning the business career or something different, you know, and, like, maybe trying to, like, compound my happiness and fulfillment and, like, building me better as like, a person, you know? And I said, okay, I'll do it.

[C]

Like, it'll.

[B]

It'll just be us, you know, that's when he pitched me. He's like, well, let's just do it, me and you. You know, he's like, we can get other cast members and stuff like that. And. Yeah, so I just kind of went out on a limb and went with my gut feeling, which. Holy. I couldn't been farther from wrong on that one. I'll totally admit to. But that's the other thing too. I. I wouldn't change it for the world because, like, the things I learned and the stuff I went through was, like, unbelievable, you know, and it. It kind of. And when I say I wouldn't change it for the world, just the experiences I had you know, the. The path and road that was took, obviously there was some super greasy and ups and downs in there that we can talk about later, like, what happened after I left and all that stuff.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Just to speak though, like, to your point of view, like, so the viewer can kind of understand, like, we weren't doing that great at, like, where we were at. We weren't rolling in dough. We were just literally grinding and making like 1900, you know, like. Like Jake said he was working at his dad's turf business to make enough money to still do other things. So, like, it was like kind of working on a. On a pipe dream. And in a sense, we've been doing this for what, three, four years of that time.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I think. And I. I think we actually had like 600, 000 subscribers because we actually might be right. We have a. Yeah, we have a plaque downstairs that a kid made and sent us. And it has the date and it has, like, June, and it says627,000 subscribers. So, like, realistically, we weren't like, super huge. We weren't pulling tons of views. So, like, you can't really blame you for wanting to give this a try.

[B]

We'll get into this. But when I made that decision, like, it was just a decision. Like, I was leaving, you know, and we were all still friends and we were upstairs and like, I remember when you guys said, like, hey, if it doesn't work out, you know, you can always come back, Right?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I made the decision to just totally burn that bridge and, like, we'll get into all that.

[C]

Yeah, I think. And I think we were. We were maybe hurt because we were like. I don't know if we were necessarily hurt. Like, we were just bummed that you were leaving. You know, it was almost always to you guys. It was almost like we were bummed that. That you didn't with the vision. Like, we, like our dream, like, this guy came in and sold you, and it was like, to us, we felt like that guy didn't have the credentials to sell you on it. And we felt that you were being bamboozled and lied to. Like, I mean, I saw it and I do want to say I didn't go around and convince other people. We just straight flat out.

[E]

No, we all.

[C]

We just talked and. And everyone kind of just like, I just don't think he's the guy.

[E]

Man. I remember after that, me, I drove home and it, like, I'm pretty sure, like, I cried. I felt because you were leaving is what you told us is you were leaving to go to Chicago. And I was so sad that my best friend, before Confirmation, you know, we. We would ride snowmobiles of confirmation together. And it was like, man, my best friend is leaving and I'm not gonna see him again. The same way that people feel when their friend goes to college or gets a new job or has to move across the country, like, that's how I felt, dude.

[B]

What it felt like for me, this is the only thing I could compare it to is like, breaking up with your girlfriend for literally, like, because you're just gonna go try some other chick out.

[C]

Like, things were going, like, kind of good.

[B]

Yeah, I guess.

[E]

Fine. But ye.

[A]

But, like.

[B]

And, you know, and that's like, the thing is kind of put myself back in those shoes. It's like the person I am today is not even close to the same person, which is, like, really good. But I just, you know, I was always having fun, and I had, like, this I don't give a shit about anything attitude. And, like, it. It kind of, like, just caught up to me really hard, you know? Like, I just was always, like, circling around myself, wondering, like, what am I doing? Like, what. What do I need to do?

[D]

Jake's like, wait, do I give a.

[B]

No?

[A]

And that's funny you say that well.

[C]

Well, like, you're saying when, like, after.

[D]

You left, you were.

[C]

Or during your time.

[B]

Just like, I. I have it.

[F]

It's.

[B]

I. It's basically like 20. Late 20. 19, early 2020. You know, I just, like, was doubting myself. I was just kind of super down in the dumps, and I just wanted to, like, I was not in, like, a good headspace. And I don't know how to describe it. It was such, like, a mental thing for me because I was, like, just getting pulled so many different ways of, like, what to do? What should I do? You know, Like, I have this group of best friends who are building something awesome, you know, like, my dad wants me to take over the seating business. Like, there's this guy who's supposed to be some magical prince that's going to lead me to the promised land. And I totally, like, put all my trust in everything into that. I just, like, threw my sack over my shoulder and put my eggs in those baskets, you know, and just got straight kicked in the balls. But that's the thing. And I just, like. I kind of just went for it, and then I couldn't figure out what it was. And even, like, after he was gone and, like, me and Pat were going and all that stuff. Like my mental mindset would slowly get better, but I couldn't figure it out. And honestly, up until maybe three months ago, I've like finally started to dial it in. Like, and it's crazy. And obviously there's so much that happens in between that, but man, I'm happy to hear that.

[C]

Like, what do you mean? Like, what you dial in?

[B]

Like, I, I never told anybody. Listen, I haven't told my dad, my family or nothing. But like two months ago I started to go like therapy and stuff and like just talking to people about like, what's been going on in my life. Like, I don't know, I'll be like in the best mood ever. And I'm so good at like distracting myself from what, like, I think about when I'm alone. And like, I think that's why it's so easy to like create content and fun because, you know, when you're just out laughing and having smiles, you know, it's so easy to just not think about that stuff. But like, over time it would just build and build and build and build and build. And like, I just, it really messed with my head, dude. You know, and I kind of in the last two months just like totally flip flopped my life. Like, I tried. Started going to church every Sunday, started going to the gym every morning. This is like, maybe a little personal, but I quit like jacking off.

[D]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, totally. Stop that. I take ice baths every day and like every Thursday I go to therapy. And as of the last two months, like, I've just been freaking dialed, you know, I mean, for the longest time. And you told me this yesterday, I'm like, maybe I'm drinking too much. So I stopped drinking for like nine months and six days a couple years ago. And that didn't do to my mental health. And like, I couldn't figure out what it was.

[C]

I feel like I was. Yeah, you. You definitely are looking the best, the most healthy I've ever seen you in my life.

[B]

Yeah, I went from 225 to 181.6 this morning.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, you're dialed. I mean, and obviously you can just tell in your face, like everything. And you just. You're the most in shape you've ever been. But also, I will say, speaking to your mental. You're much more predictable. I shouldn't say predictable, but you're much less unpredictable. You used to be very unpredictable and wild. And maybe partly the reason why you maybe weren't super happy with. I mean, you'll be able to answer this, with your position at that time when you were still in C Boys, TV was like, you were showing up. And for one, we didn't typically ever have a plan. Like, we were just. We didn't know what the we were doing. But for two, you just were kind of, like, showing up, and it was like, just be you. Be funny. Be you. Just do whatever, you know, like, and kind of everyone was doing that.

[D]

So it.

[C]

It makes it stressful not having a plan, not having any organization, and then you're kind of like this wild man.

[B]

Don't get me wrong, we were filming it during the moment. I love every single second of that. But. But it was like I wasn't learning anything. I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't getting any skills, you know, And I was just chasing a dragon, which was like a dopamine rush of having fun, you know? And I just felt like it just kind of wore me out because it was like, how long can I hold this up? And just kind of taxed me out. And I was just kind of looking for a outlet, you know? And so.

[E]

So did he come to you with kind of like a plan? Like, listen, we're gonna get this structured program down. Yeah. The manager. Were you. Were you able to. He kind of gave you almost like this out. Like, hey, I can give you some structure. You can still chase that dopamine rush, but with a little bit of. Or legitness. What was this?

[B]

It was more in a way of just, like, in my mind, what I thought it was going to be was like a. A mentor, you know, in, like, a different world, you know, I could still. Because what I love to do in this, like, and I will forever, I love to entertain people and be around people. I'm a huge people person. I love, like, I have no problem being the center of attention, people pleaser.

[C]

Yeah, you like making people laugh.

[B]

Yeah, that's the thing. And, like, I love that. Don't get me wrong, like, that. That is part of who I am. But I wanted to have this, like, other part, you know, is what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't just live that. Like. And obviously, you guys know we go to Zorbas, and even if there's no cameras, like, I stood up on the table for Micah, and I'm like, hey.

[A]

Everyone, sing Micah Happy Birthday.

[B]

Like, I love that stuff.

[C]

Yeah. What you were gonna do with that guy in that show, you were kind of still doing the same role, though, as what you were doing here. Like, you show up, you be funny, you be crazy. You, maybe you do whatever. Like, it might be a jump that day or whatever the hell, but did you feel like it was more of, like, all right, like, I got the time, the clock's ticking. I either need to go with the seating business or. Or make something happen. Now, do you think that, like, there was, like, a clock weighing on you?

[B]

In a way, yes. But I just, like, I felt like I just. If I was on that path, maybe it would, like, strike me into, like, learning more than just doing that too, you know? Like, obviously there is, like, an evolvement of everything. Just like, how this has evolved. Like this. This is nuts, you know, like, when I left, like, this, this facility didn't exist, and you guys have just straight evolved the channel, you know? And, like, I just thought it would evolve me into becoming, like a better business person or maybe a different career line would open up, but I just thought it was like a doorway to something else, you know, and I just put my full trust in that.

[D]

You know what, though, Jake? I honestly, I truly believe that if you wouldn't have left when you did and made the decisions that you did, none of this would be here. And you had to go your own way because, like, at the end of the day, you just felt like you had to be your own leader, like, make your own decisions. And honestly, in this, in, like, the way that U.S. 5 operate is like, there's really no one person calling the shots or like, we all kind of work together. But like, you, since day one, I've always kind of been like the Lone Ranger. Like, felt more beat. Beats your own drum or what is it? Go to your own.

[C]

He does what he wants. Like, I remember some days we'd be, you know, filming. I'm. I don't know if Jake's coming today. It looks like he's at home playing PS4, you know?

[B]

Yeah. No, and it's. I think you're right in the way of. I definitely am that way for sure now. And, you know, I think I wanted to then, but I just didn't have anyone to, like, teach me to be like that, you know? And obviously it gets, like, kind of emotional and stuff because, you know, you always, like. It's so crazy. I always. I get the question. Still to this day, you know, everyone's like, do you wish you never left? You know, and, like, I look at all you guys, you know, and I think about it and I'll. I have only one answer, and it's not yes or no the way I did. Absolutely not. I Wish I never did that, you guys. Like, like when I like burned all the T shirts and like that, like that's pretty. I don't know, it wasn't cool. And I felt today I felt, I feel super bad. And like the reason I, I did that is I was making like a business decision in a way. And a problem with it is like I was doing that decision off of emotions, you know, like that's, that's literally the feeling and reason of why. And I'm not going to say this person's name because three weeks ago he came up to me in Zorbas and actually apologized for this.

[C]

Really?

[B]

And it was one of your guys friend's bachelor parties. Oh yeah. And anyways it was just like the end of the night and you know, I was like still hanging out with you guys, but I was gone. I already went to Chicago and back and I was sad. I didn't know who I was. I was just a lost puppy, you know. And anyways, I just start getting lit up in the parking lot, you know, and I just didn't know what to do.

[C]

What do you mean by lit up?

[D]

Verbally saying like, why are you here?

[B]

Yeah, like why are you here? Like you abandoned these guys, shit like that. Like, dude, I'm just trying to hang out, you know. And like it was kind of awkward because everybody was a little messed up too. And like it was just, it felt super weird and like obviously it is totally different times that I was just like no one kind of said anything, you know. And like I just kind of looked around and I just like got in my truck and went home. And the next morning when I woke up, I just like chose violence. Like I was sad and it turned to anger.

[C]

Yeah. So to preface, that was an acquaintance or a friend of like not anyone in, in our Seaboz group. But ok, I know that.

[B]

And that's when I say like I let my emotions make a decision that I. I totally shouldn't have made.

[C]

You know, And I almost think we need to back slightly back up. But during that time then so we were actually in kind of a legal battle with each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because so Jake ended up leaving C Boys and in order to, you know, actually leave the company, which he wanted his name off the company because otherwise he would be liable for if something went wrong. Right. And we wanted his name off the company because we're trying to build something and it's like we don't want him to, you know, if you're not going to be here with us. Doing it, then you can't be, you know, an owner in this. And Jake, you got to. We got to give a huge, like, I mean, thank you to you because, I mean, I remember from the first day when you said, I'm going to leave, you know, obviously we were shocked. But you said, I don't want any money. Like, I don't want anything. Like, I. I'm not trying to get money. I just cut me out of the. Like, I'm going this way. I don't want to. Whatever. Which we really didn't have. Also, on top of that, we didn't really have much money. We were renting a shop and we. I think we had an RS1.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's the thing, like, I. I truly did, like, want to see you guys, like, flourish at the time when I told you, you know, and it's funny, it's ironic. I'm like, I don't want a dollar. Well, the minimum buyout's a dollar. So I got that bitch framed up in my office.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I actually was going to bring.

[C]

It in, but for sure, I've been funny. But. So before you left to go to Chicago, we had Jake sign a thing, just saying, I will sell my shares of the company for $1. So we basically did it. We just hadn't. I don't know if we gave you the dollar yet or what we did, but, you know, whatever. So it was like basically a done deal on paper.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And the reason why we did that right then and there was because we were worried that when you went and got with this new manager, as soon as he gets involved in trying to do this separation, he's going to try and just take us for everything because. Which, I mean, he kind of ended up doing with you later on. Obviously, we'll get to that part in the story, but we were kind of saw that one coming, so we were trying to protect ourselves. And you were. You were very nice and easy about it. You signed it, didn't think twice. And, you know, just because you weren't trying to obviously jam us up. So I do appreciate that. All of us do appreciate that, because that honestly saved, I think, all this, because I really don't. I think if you wouldn't have signed that thing, that document, selling it for $1 or, you know, just whatever, cutting your shares off.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

I think that he would have just, you know, as. As he later on did and as he had had done in the past, would have taken it to court, stretched it out and just basically try to Bleed us dry. And we would have ultimately had to fold. You know, it would have crumbled. I think what we. What we had at that time. So, yeah, I mean, that was. That was huge. But. But anyways, I think there was. When that guy chewed you out in the Zorbas parking lot. Although we were like, hanging out, I think there is an animosity to us all because we were trying to still do this separation. But your manager was, like, dragging it out. Like, he purposely was, like, dragging it out. And we had to keep paying lawyers, and we didn't have money for that. So it was like we were.

[D]

And we couldn't buy the shop. We were moved into the shop. We couldn't buy it because we were still on the business.

[C]

We couldn't get a loan. And I think he knew that. I don't know if you knew that.

[B]

Do you remember doing a zoom meeting? Yeah, you were pissed.

[D]

I remember that.

[B]

Yeah, dude, I like, oh, my God.

[C]

It was.

[A]

It was ridiculous.

[C]

I could tell on your face that you were already fed up of his shit. No, because.

[D]

Pissed at us after this. I remember that you were mad at us. That's when it flipped. That's. That's when it.

[B]

So, like, maybe what happened. No, no, no. So what happened was like. I don't know if that was before or after, but basically, like, I just wanted, like a clean rip, just as you guys did. Like, I just wanted nothing to happen. And then, like, when all these documents get sent over and you got someone in your ear like, hey, look at this. This, this and this and this. And I'm like, huh? Maybe, like, they are. Yeah, maybe these guys are trying to do it like a dirty. On me, you know? And then obviously now I'm just like, I gotta have my own team over here, you know? Yeah.

[D]

That's why you never get lawyers involved in anything, I think.

[C]

I mean, you just had the wrong people. Wrong people in your ear. Obviously, that.

[B]

Well, yeah, obviously.

[C]

But. But yeah, going back. So that kind of started create this animosity to all of us. Like, obviously we went from this is a clean break to now. I think there was some frustration involved out of both parties because it was. I mean, at that time, it was very hard on us because during that time, none of us were getting paid. So we were like. I think we went, I mean, like, seven months, six months. And like, I just remember having, like. Like, we would kind of like, get. I guess we'd get a little bit of paychecks. But I remember, like, it was always like, I Had less than a thousand bucks in my bank account the whole time. And we were posting all these videos and it was kind of starting to take off, which almost leads into another point. When you left, there was so many people that were like in the area and obviously our subscribers as well, that thought, oh, they're done. Jake left. Like, I legit had people. Like, I remember one time I was at. I was eating dinner with my girlfriend's dad and he. And they had a bunch of other people and this guy, he was just like, so rude to me. He was like, so what are you gonna do now that Jake left you? I was like, like, what? I'm just gonna keep. Keep on going. Like, we're gonna keep making videos.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think a lot of people thought, oh, they're done. Because Jake was. Jake left. He's the star. And it put a. It lit a fire under our ass for one. But then for two, it made us reverse consider and relook at everything we were doing in the business. And we dialed it in. We started, you know, just from really the ground up. We started looking at everything like, how are we making these videos? Like, we would schedule out things, you know, and started planning and working on the thumbnails, just literally everything. Because we were trying to becoming strategic. Yeah, we became very strategic.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And like failure.

[C]

Like, if.

[D]

If those people would have been right. Yeah, it would have been a bad. Like, that was everything we could do to prove those people wrong. Like, we were so fired up.

[A]

That's like the.

[D]

How many people were telling us that we were. We were so fucked without you, dude.

[A]

That's the thing.

[B]

And I love. And here's the crazy part, and it's kind of a good spot to bring this up and then we can continue. But coming back to when we were all together, do you guys remember being outside the shop? I don't know. It's just like a random day. We were all sitting around a fire pit and like, we were just having a fun, stereotypical weekend, you know, and we were all like, arms around each other, like, this is awesome. We're going to do it. And like one day. Or Ben said, you know, guys, one day we're all going to have our dream cars and I'm going to own a Lamborghini. And the day I was stuck in the trunk of that other car and I heard a Lambo pull up, you know what the first thing I said was? He did it.

[A]

And then it was help. But no, I literally like.

[B]

Like when I heard that thing come in I literally just remember staring at all you guys and Ben saying that, and I'm just like, he did it, like, and it was cool because, like, I don't know if you guys know this. You know how cool it's been from, like, the outside perspective watching you guys grow, like, it's. It's weird being a part of something, taking yourself out of that and just watching that thing climb to the top. It is the coolest thing in the world. Just like seeing the evolvement and like, because when you're in it, you know you're going just like 200 miles an hour, and you guys kind of don't realize, like, how fast it's going, you know? And like, just you. It time blows by and, you know, you just like, watch this thing in like a matter of years just turn into a staple, an icon, like only a one of a kind in the entire area, which is like the coolest thing in the entire world to me. Like, I loved it, every second of it. It's crazy.

[E]

I think that goes to show, like, all the other outside people that were going on during this. Just like that fight outside of whatever bar, you know where that guy was young. It was all the outside people that really caused the problem. We were all. We all wanted to be good. You wanted to clean exit, we wanted clean exit. We wanted to get back to work. You wanted to get to work. And what you're doing, it was everybody else that tries to stick their either hands for money or their opinion and stuff like that into a situation that can really be the downfall. It probably where some of that animosity that was created from us to you and you to us wasn't what we were saying to each other. It was what other people told us we should be feeling or what other people told us that they'd heard, or what people said, no, this is how you should feel. Or, oh, he's going to do this. Like the lawyers. Oh, he's gonna try to take you for this. You got to put this language in. And I think that really goes to show that what we were is such. And what we are is such good friends that we just wanted to do our own thing. But it's the other people who don't understand a situation that can really muddy the waters.

[B]

Yeah, it got like, dude, when you.

[D]

Burnt those shirts, people were like hating on us. People were hating on us. We got so much hate. Everyone was on your side. And the worst part was, like, the local people that always said, we're gonna fail, and they were commenting and reposting that. Yeah. And then I truly saw like. Like who had our back. And I still remember exactly who did it and who didn't. Yeah, people. But I remember that. And I straight up had like a breakdown. Then the next morning, I was literally sitting in my parents kitchen crying, being like my best friend did this to me and my other friends. Everything was just like pile, like, like come crumbling down. And that was like the moment, like at the lowest. I think that was like the rock bottom of like all of our. All, like everything that happened, like, that was. That was like, that was it. And then everything built from there. Obviously got better.

[C]

But that was a banger, though. Like when you. You drop that burning, like that was like. I like, I was like, holy. They got some serious production. Like, this is a great story. They got Morgan Freeman doing.

[D]

What's up with that?

[C]

Like, I was want to know, isn't it?

[B]

No, no, that was. Literally had nothing to do with that. That was me and Zach Huvdy. Yeah, that was it. And where'd you get the Morgan Freeman? So that's the thing. AI wasn't out yet. You got. We were 21 years old. AI wasn't out.

[D]

Right.

[B]

And anyways, I was watching a YouTube video and it was Morgan Freeman telling all the memes of 2021. I'm like, man, I can't believe Morgan. Or no, what year? 2020. And I'm like, man, that's hilarious. Why would Morgan Freeman do this? Scroll down. It's a guy who does voice reenactments.

[E]

No way. Morgan Freeman.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I literally, like, email him. I'm like, if you can say these words, I will pay you as much as you want. I need this by tomorrow. And he goes, done.

[C]

It sounded so good.

[B]

Yeah. And the funny part is though, you guys like, right away, right after that, karma just kicked me in the ball so fast because my first video wearing like, Viking costume.

[C]

Can we get.

[D]

Can we get a copy of that?

[A]

No. Can we Forever like it. It will never be seen, bro.

[C]

That. So before that, though, you got to. That was where it shifted. You had everyone on your side. I think you were a major fan favorite. And I think a lot of people were like, you know, C boys, tv still doing their thing. But when Jake comes out with his. He's gonna be crushing it. Like he is gonna blow us out of the water. And then you drop that burning the merch thing. And I was like, damn. Like, they actually can all of a sudden make videos. Because I was like this. I didn't Think this guy could do all along. But I guess we were wrong. I'm like, oh fuck. Cuz I getting nervous. Manager.

[B]

Yeah, Bob didn't have anything to do.

[C]

Whenever, whenever we say makes sense.

[A]

I did that.

[C]

Whenever we say Bob's real name, just put a beep because otherwise it's going to sound.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I got it.

[E]

Good.

[C]

And you can leave that in. But, but I remember thinking that and I remember like, oh, and then, you know, you guys end up finishing up. It was like you, we finally come to the agreement, you get your name off the company. And keep in mind, I guess you had probably been not posting videos or doing anything online now for what, like a year? Literally. It was like this guy took a year. Like he didn't just come out. Like it took him a year to make one YouTube video and he comes out with your fucking first video. Dude. What was up with that? What?

[D]

Like, you guys, when, when that was.

[A]

You don't understand.

[C]

You guys can imagine how the pilot episode was if you've ever seen it.

[A]

Okay, you guys, here's the thing.

[B]

Coming back to what you said.

[F]

I.

[A]

And then, yes, like with that momentum, I probably could have just came out.

[B]

Of the gate so hard and it just slapped me in the face so bad.

[D]

Well, you guys premiered it too, so you were watch.

[A]

Oh, and I was, Dude, I was watching the, the live comments and I was just like.

[C]

Because everyone knows the computer ripping. I was watching them too, because I had my broken foot at the time. So I was all rested up. And I mean, keep in mind, you've been like promoting for a year. Like, I'm coming out with this channel and all this.

[A]

So dude, that's the thing. Just came out doing something. Like the three Instagram videos were awesome.

[B]

Like, and despite the fact of like the whole ruining of the friendship and.

[A]

Making it weird from the outside viewership, it created like just drama and hype.

[B]

And it was sick, right?

[D]

Yeah, I think just dropped the ball on delivery. CJ's point.

[F]

Yeah. You had the catapult loaded full as it can be, ready to launch, and it was whatever you want, as long.

[A]

As it's awesome, dude.

[D]

So we were out. We were out like drinking that night because we were like, Jake's dropping his video tonight. And I was like, I don't even want to watch this. I figured it was going to just be like, just on us, ripping all of us apart, like all these different things, right? And then CJ text, yo, you guys gotta go and watch Jake's new video. And I was Like, I can't, dude. I literally can't. I'm not trying to ruin my night. I'm trying to have a good time. And he's like, believe me, it's worth the watch. And we get back to. We get back to Tint's house, and we all put it on and we watch it. And I should you not. Everyone was like this. And it got done and it was just silent. And we go. I was like, holy, we're good. Well, it was like, dude, it was like the whole momentum shift of, like, us getting on for, like, the past year. And I'm not gonna lie, it felt kind of nice.

[C]

Yeah. Just.

[D]

And I was just like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, this guy is a flop.

[A]

Like, I get. Yes, you're fine.

[E]

We.

[C]

Yeah, we had a feeling.

[D]

And then that.

[C]

So it proved. So.

[D]

So what? He got in.

[E]

What was going on? He was her side.

[D]

He was like, here's a great idea. And you were just like, okay, yeah.

[A]

No, that's the thing.

[B]

Like, as being 21, 22, like, so heavily influenced. And I just put all my trust on him. And at this point, I'm like, I'm all in. I can't change. Like, what am I gonna do? Like, I already had those other three videos up. There's nothing I can do at this point. I'm like, let's roll it.

[A]

You know, get the Viking costumes and the. What are they?

[C]

When you break the tripod. Yeah, just broke a 25 tripod. Threw it in the field. You put that in the intro. That guy. Dude.

[A]

But yeah, anyways, so I don't. Dude, I can't help but laugh right now. I'm sorry.

[F]

It just reminded me of something. Like when you were doing it, we're like, is he being held hostage? Why else would he make content like this?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, what's up, bro?

[E]

Oh, hey, Cody.

[B]

Oh, dude.

[D]

So you had to have watched that and just been like, we're.

[A]

No, literally, Yeah.

[E]

I want to know what was going on in your side. How'd we get there?

[B]

So how we got there? So basically, like, how it became about or whatever. So, okay, as I was told, like, there was a show that was greenlit. Right. So we gotta maybe give some context. So right after I left the boys, I ended up moving to Chicago for what, three months maybe? It was like a summer.

[C]

The whole summer?

[B]

Yeah, basically the whole summer. And I maybe came back, like, two, three times. And, like, I just. I'm like, dude, we're not doing anything. I called my dad might come Fly down here and pick me up. And it was like four hours. He's like, all right, cool. So anyways, like, the time I was down there, so, like, I left you guys right at this time. I'm like, thinking, all right, I got this. We got a plan. I fly down there. I. I didn't have any. I, like, literally took my clothes and a one wheel and, like, that's how I got around down there or whatever. And, like, I get to his house, and, like, at this point, I was like, super drinking the Kool Aid because, like, his house was pretty cool for what it. What it was, right? And I come in. I'm like, all right, so maybe this guy knows what he's doing and obviously a whole different story. But anyways, we start, like, getting to work down there, right? Like, making T shirt designs and stuff like this. And, like, he starts showing me, like, a couple designs, and I was like, that's. That is subpar.

[A]

Like, that is, like, that's bad, right?

[B]

And I'm like, we need to change this up a little bit, right? So, like, finally dial in some T shirts, whatever. And now we're.

[D]

This is exactly what you need before making any. Any content, Right?

[A]

Right.

[D]

Some T shirts to sell to the people.

[B]

All bass ackwards here. And. But I'm just rolling with the punches, you know, I'm following his lead on this one. I'm in it. Like, I'm. I'm gonna do this new milestone in my life, you know, I'm trying something totally different. And so, like, we're working down there, and he's working on, like, other show pitches and stuff that was, like, going on. He's like, yeah, I just got to wrap up, like, these two projects or whatever. And then he's like, we'll get to work on some stuff. And I was there for, like, maybe a week, two weeks, and we maybe did, like, three things that had to deal with me. Otherwise I was like, pressure washing his roof.

[A]

And, like, I'm like, I'm doing manual labor over here.

[B]

I'm not even getting paid.

[D]

Doing you sort of pressure Washington wash.

[B]

I have Snapchats of me pressure washing his roof.

[A]

And I. I totally bet I can send you guys all that.

[B]

Like, I literally, like, did edging, did this, did that.

[A]

I'm like, wow.

[C]

I'm like, what's going on?

[D]

Next thing you know, you're wearing a little uniform.

[C]

You're doing other people's lawns, too.

[D]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Anyway, so, like, start doing yard for a bit, right?

[B]

So, like, I'm. I'm playing this role. I'm like, all right, cool.

[A]

It's whatever.

[B]

And I don't remember if it was like, fourth of July coming up or something was coming up. And my dad, like, flies down, gets me go home. And he's like, how is it? I'm like, oh, pretty good. You know, he's like, wrapping up some other projects and stuff and whatever. I'm like, yeah, but I had to, like, clean up his house and stuff like that because he was, like, selling it at the time or whatever, and he's like, oh. He's like, just give it time, whatever, you know, like, yeah, stay true. Yeah, you'd figure that, like, something's gonna happen and, you know, he's. He's staying positive about it and he's like, all right, Drops me off, you know, and go on DL and hang out with friends and have fun, whatever.

[D]

And punch a washing machine.

[B]

Oh, my God, I forgot about that. I so forgot about that.

[A]

Whose house was that, dude? I don't know.

[D]

We shouldn't mention it.

[A]

What?

[E]

What?

[D]

We were just talking, me and you. It was the first time that we'd seen each other in, like, two.

[C]

Two months.

[D]

And it got. It got kind of heated and. You punched a washing machine?

[B]

Not at our house.

[D]

We were just chopping it up and. And then things got like. Like kind of escalated and I was like, what are you doing down there? And I must have struck a soft spot with him.

[C]

Cleaning that roof.

[D]

And he punched the washing machine.

[A]

Yeah, no, I totally forgot about that.

[B]

Till you brought that up.

[A]

That's kind of funny.

[B]

No, it's all right.

[F]

All right.

[B]

Anyway, so I, like. I go back and. Anyway, so like, basically the whole time we're down there, we're just working on, like, merchandising stuff, you know, Like. Like the whole time we're down there.

[C]

Like, obviously, like, how many hours a day? Just out of curiosity, what felt like.

[B]

All day every day? Probably only like a couple hours here and there because we're out doing other stuff. Because he's got these other unwrapped up projects, bro.

[C]

I remember how he works.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, exactly.

[C]

Just doing nothing but just taking a lot of time.

[B]

Hamster wheeling it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's so hard when you, like, just put your full trust in someone because, like, I just kept giving them the benefit of the doubt, you know? But eventually, like, I just got totally, like. Like, we got to start doing stuff, you know, like, people are asking questions, you know, like, there needs to be a Like, we got to do something. Like whether. If we're gonna just, like, shoot a TV show and that's, like, what we're gonna do. Well, let's just go do that. But in the meantime, we're just, like, sitting here not doing anything. Like, we, like, make a channel or something or go to work, you know? So by, like, the summer's over. Like, I just moved home. I'm like, dude, like, we gotta.

[C]

And you had nothing to show for it.

[B]

No, exactly.

[C]

Zero.

[B]

I had a couple T shirts and a hat out of the whole summer.

[C]

You know, Were they even for sale yet or.

[B]

No, no, no, they weren't even for sale. And like, these designs might. Could have whipped up by the time this podcast over. Dude. Like, it's pretty heavy anyways.

[D]

I just pictured you guys having, like, 15 meetings throughout the summer about the same T shirts.

[A]

No, bro, but you don't understand.

[B]

Like, there was like. It was like thousands of them. We were going through. I'm like, here's the deal.

[A]

We just need something cool. Pick a couple T shirts and a hat.

[B]

I'm gonna wear it.

[A]

We'll do some cool stuff.

[B]

Kids are gonna buy it. We'll move on, make new ones.

[F]

Right.

[B]

Like, we. To find a perfected T shirt that everybody's going to love. Yeah. And, like, I kind of started getting, like, floored up with it, and I'm like, dude, we just got to go home. We got to start, like, filming something.

[C]

Both of you, right?

[B]

Yeah. We both get here, and now he's living at my dad's house in the basement. And so, God, that was.

[C]

That was uncomfortable because now you guys were back in town and we still had this animosity to us. Now they're back here and they're going to film in cornbread. So we're gonna have two. Two people, two groups filming around this tiny little town. Yeah. I remember thinking.

[B]

And that's the thing is, like, basically the stuff we were doing is to do show pitches and pilots and stuff like that.

[C]

Right. I remember he wanted to do Quibi. What's Quibi? That was like, exactly the. The big thing he was talking about. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, sorry.

[D]

Why are you leaving, Jake? He said, I'm going to have a show on Quibby.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

The whole network didn't even work out.

[A]

Yeah, no, that. It literally, like, that is the reason that I'm pretty sure is the reason.

[B]

Why we came home and, like, started the channel is that thing just shut down. And, dude, man, all these bad memories just hit me like a brick, dude. But yes. Anyways, there was this app called Quibi.

[C]

And if I remember correctly, what it was is that it was original content that you had to pay in order to view. So the reason why I was like, that will never work is because if it's original content that no one's ever seen before, why the would they pay to view it? Like, you know, it makes no sense. But anyways, yeah, so basically, Quibi failed.

[B]

Total flop.

[C]

It was like a three month thing. Yeah.

[B]

So anyway, so we come back, we start like filming stuff for pilots for YouTube. Anyways, he's like got us all totally convinced, like, okay, we're greenlit for whatever this is gonna be. It's basically it was. Do you guys remember? I don't even know if I can say the name, but just beep it or whatever. Oh, yeah. So basically like, that was greenlit and there was just other cast members we were gonna use. Right. And I was like, at this point, like, whatever, let's just do something. Let's do something. Right? And yeah, so like, yeah, we're good to go. We're just waiting on this and that, this and that, you know, and it's just like, it's the same story over time, you know? And I just got like, kind of sick of it. Sick of it. Sick of it. Revolving, like. Yeah, just hamster wheel and revolving door. And then I think it was by the time we got to. You remember the video where we did like the pumpkin drop thing? Like we started throwing pumpkins out of the plane onto the car or whatever. Yeah, is an all right idea or whatever. But like, that video was filmed in September and he didn't get that out till like October 20th. And that's when we were like, okay, we gotta do this like weekly if we're gonna do this right.

[C]

Was he editing them?

[B]

Yes. So he had editors back home. So we had like these big drives. We'd upload them to the cloud or whatever. Or he'd mail them to him and like, it would take so long to edit them. And after that I was like, yeah, you're just not going to edit these videos anymore. And literally out of nowhere comes Pat Ragan. Just calls me up and he's like, hey, I not doing Sasquatch anymore, or whatever. And he's like, do you need a editor? And I was like, yeah, absolutely. And he's like, sweet, I'll come down like tomorrow.

[D]

Pat was like our buddy. We had. We had known Pat and done a couple things with him over the years and just knew him, like, he was.

[C]

Part of a film production crew down in the cities that it was kind of like the same thing of Seaboz, except they were just making videos for other people and it was like very high production.

[B]

They made the Just Another Day.

[C]

Yeah, just Another Day video, which is on our YouTube channel. It's like a. I can't remember what the edits called, but it's like this edit.

[B]

It's like a sequence thing of.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And it was really cool. It's pretty sweet they made that. But he. He left that company. Jake left Seaboys at like the same time. And yeah, you guys came together.

[B]

Came together, Came together.

[D]

Dude. As soon as Pat came on, it was like everything just clicked for like the content, the thumbnails, the ideas, like, everything.

[C]

Like, he just.

[D]

He basically took over, like.

[B]

Yes, he took over, like the editing and all that stuff. And basically like at that time, you know, like then. And I just like run in the background. I'm like. I'm like, none of this stuff is happening. Like, whatever you said, like, isn't happening. And I'm getting kind of floored and I'm like, like, me and Pat just kind of got to like go and do stuff. So, like to just stay relevant, you know?

[D]

Right.

[B]

And eventually, I think it was like December 31st. Like, I was just sucked literally dry.

[D]

Like, with who?

[B]

My bank account. Okay. Like, like December 31st. Like.

[C]

So were you funding these videos yourself? The. Your manager. Yeah, at the time wasn't chipping in.

[B]

Any idea he had any. Like, like we were funding all of it. Like those, those vans in the Pumpkin Drop video. Like, I went and bought the vans, like, all the new camera equipment, everything. Like we built out my. The studio. Like, I. I paid for all that or whatever, you know. And come December 31st, like, I am capped. I'm like, dude, this. This isn't working. I'm like talking to my dad and Julian, whoever. I'm like, he's gotta go. And you know, like, they. They started like seeing it too. Just like over time, they're like, yeah, nothing's happening. They're like, it's been so long.

[C]

You had this full grown ass man living in basement.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You know, like the benefit of the doubt was over served.

[C]

You know what Pat think of him. Did they get.

[B]

Pat did not like him.

[C]

So. So basically no one liked me.

[B]

No. Yeah, no one. And like me and Pat just kind of like we're talking and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna tell him it's time to go, you know, and so Were.

[D]

You, like, pretty pent up? Like, were you like, pretty pit.

[B]

Like, veins were shown. I was like, dude, I'm like, it was. It just crashed and burned. Like, I got on the. What was supposed to be the sickest flight of all time, and it just turned around and landed back in Fargo. You know, I didn't.

[C]

You over.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like, literally, totally just like bent me straight over and I had nothing to show for it just blew a bunch of time. And now I'm starting over from scratch.

[D]

Kind of jammed up your name in the process with. Oh, yeah, I really did. Video credibility.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. Like, it just. Everything totally flopped, you know. And then so, yeah, I told him on December 31, like, you know, we. You're. You're done. We're done. Like, you have no equity into this. Like, my. My literal. It's just me on the company and, like, I've been the only one putting money into this. And like, my. My dad's been flying you back and forth. We've been like, you just cut tiles, you know, and he did not like to hear that, like, at all. Like, he was just pissed. He's like, what do you mean?

[A]

Like, stuff's just starting to take off. I'm like, what are you talking about? No, it is not.

[F]

Obviously, it's a nerve wracking conversation to go into.

[B]

That's the thing. Like, he was just trying to, like, pitch me on this and this and that. And he hits you with a. You know, it's funny you say that, because just got the email that we were actually good to go, and I got a big meeting coming up and I'm like, I really don't care about your big meeting, dude. Like, we all know you're just kind of a. I don't.

[E]

Yeah, you've been playing us.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And it just turned into this whole big ordeal. And basically. So what happened? I actually sent out the lawsuit and all it said was, if you just walk away, it's done. Like, there is no lawsuit. Like, I just. I'm doing this to protect me. You just walk away because you have no sweat. You have nothing to show for this. If anything, it damaged my name so much that, like, I should be asking you for a check, but I'm like, I don't want anything.

[C]

So you sent out the initial.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I just sent the initial thing out that says all you got to do is just leave.

[D]

So you served them?

[B]

Yeah, basically. And all I said was just, you gotta exit my life. Because he would literally just like, keep coming back, like, literally showing up and like, what do we do? I'm like, dude, no.

[C]

Like, trying to like, be like, hey.

[A]

I got this idea.

[B]

Yeah. You know, just trying to keep. Do this thing. And I'm like, no, dude, like, this.

[A]

This is done.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

This is like in the past. Like, I gotta open up a new chapter. I'm like, I just burned every bridge behind me and then spent all my money in the meantime. And now I'm here and I got nothing to show for it. Like, I gotta. I got to do something here. And that was the start of it. He said no, and then it turned into a two year long.

[C]

Why?

[D]

What was he trying to get out of it?

[B]

He said I owed him like 400 grand for.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

His time.

[B]

His time? Yeah.

[C]

For how long was it? Like eight months? And you guys did what? Nothing.

[A]

Nothing?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Like it. The math isn't adding up. Everybody I tell the story to or sees it, they're like, dude, you got nothing to show for it.

[D]

So. So you serve him, he sues you.

[B]

I don't know the exact terms, but I'm basically just like, if you walk away, go home. I even like offered to bring him his stuff, which I ended up doing. I paid a guy to drive all of his stuff down there. All you got to do is just like, get out of my life. Like, we're not working together anymore. We have no business, we have no LLC together, we have nothing.

[C]

When.

[D]

When all that was happening, was it like flashing back, like, holy shit, this is how the boys felt on the other end of it with him being like, kind of. When we started, it was like, you two. And then you were going against them then.

[B]

Yeah, I. I totally know what you mean. It was like the amount of stuff that was just going through my brain at that time. It's crazy. And here's like the biggest thing. Well, my. I guess what I call it now and what my dad calls. He goes like, well, you just like paid tuition at that point, you know, like just a lesson, you know? And obviously I don't wish it upon anybody to have to go through something like that, but, like, I learned a ton. And in a way, like, it just got me readied up for the next two that I'm in now, you know, I got sued by a massive energy drink company and a sunglass company, which.

[E]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What?

[F]

Yeah, yeah, you getting sued by bang was bullshit.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[F]

And we had the name.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

What? Oh, that was the other thing from when you came to us, told us that you left. You said, oh, yeah. Also, we trademarked banging.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That created a little bit.

[D]

Yeah. And we were like, what do you mean, trademark? Bangin. Mike made all the designs. You trademarked Mike's designs?

[F]

Well, that was just funny because I was like, well, you.

[C]

You deserve.

[F]

And, like, that is your name. But then I was like, but manager sent all my designs in to get it trademarked.

[D]

And I was like, what is this?

[C]

That was kind of a weak point point, I think, because. Because although it was like, it was like your nickname that we kind of, like, gave you and helped, and then we all, like, built it up almost through the videos. But also, I didn't really have a pro. I mean, it was, like, weird, but also was like, well, we can't keep using it anyway. So we were like.

[A]

But it was just.

[B]

It felt like, I don't know, like, I can see where you guys are coming from. Disrespectful thing. You log into the trademark thing and see all Micah's stuff. You're like, all right, what did. You just didn't want to say anything about it.

[C]

Yeah. But honestly, I mean, it was. It makes sense that you would. You know, there's two points of views that could both be understood.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So then what?

[C]

So bang. I think you're skipping. Like, I think we need to.

[B]

Yeah, well, we're getting, like.

[C]

I think we need to stay on. He's still in this lawsuit right now for the next two years with his former manager. Yeah.

[B]

So basically, it's like, as if things.

[C]

Couldn'T have gotten worse. They got worse.

[B]

Oh, yeah. If things couldn't have gotten worse, it just, like, kept spiraling.

[C]

Now you guys are suing each other.

[B]

Yeah. And now it just turns into this big thing. And the problem with that is it just, like, hung up so much other stuff because it shows, like, a pending lawsuit if I'm, like, trying to get something that I could own. Yeah. All this stuff, you know, and, like, nobody wants to, like, ambassador anybody that could just, like, has to owe someone a bunch of money or anything like that, you know? And it just created a kind of a lot of headaches. And I think the biggest headache was just for, like, me personally, in the back of my mind, you know, it's just like, oh, this is close to over. And then the hamster wheel starts turning again, and it's like, actually, we want this, this, this, this, this, and this.

[C]

Dude, that was. I feel you. Because that's what he was. I mean, that was Kind of happening with us when we were trying to get do the official split with us, it was like we'd come to an agreeance and then the goal post would get moved by him. It was like, well, we want this. And we're like, okay, yeah, you can have all the videos and use them whenever you want. Well, we want this. And it was like it just kept moving and it was just never stopped. And it was similar in the fact that we couldn't get a loan. So then we were just like, fuck, yeah. So I get it on a smaller scale I guess is kind of similar.

[D]

Just the underlying fact that you're in a lawsuit or like anything with lawyers, those weighs on you so stressful, especially.

[C]

When you're in a creative business that you have to be in a good.

[A]

Mood at 21 and you see these numbers? I'm like, I don't have any of that. You know, like, you spent everything I had.

[D]

We want half a million dollars.

[B]

Yeah. He's like, well, you know my time and did some of this and some of that at 400 grand.

[C]

I'm like, for what? Exactly?

[F]

Yeah, that's what blows my mind the most. He's like, pay me money. And you're like, you didn't, not only did you not make me any money because if he, if you did, you'd maybe have a cent to pay him, but.

[B]

Right.

[D]

He took it also.

[C]

It was like on both sides of, of us both having that, being in that situation. It was like a ton of money. And we're like, we don't even have close to that amount of money.

[A]

I don't know where you're getting this.

[C]

From or who's going to give you this money, but we don't got, we don't got anything to give you. Right.

[B]

I think it was just make believe numbers. Like, all right, 56000.

[C]

What do we want to go for?

[B]

Yeah. And so that's the thing. So basically at this point now it's just me and Pat and like it's just this huge thing that's always there. Right. And we're just like on the grind doing good. And then some papers show up, you know, and then it's on the grind doing good. Then some papers show up and it.

[D]

Basically is bills or killing the vibe.

[B]

Yeah. Whether it was bills or just like now we want this and it's just going to take a ton of work that it's like it literally, you guys, I, I had a binder and I was going to bring it, but I have A dis. Like, so they call it discovery, where you bring in all the evidence, Right. And we asked for, like, 10 things. Maybe his discovery was maybe, like, this thick. I have a binder of all the stuff I had to supply. It's like, all the ad revenue from here to here, minutes of watch time. These videos that have been up, how his likeness got killed. I'm like, dude, you have 13 followers on Instagram.

[D]

That's right. I forgot about that. The.

[A]

The what?

[C]

When you made your video. Yeah.

[D]

You made your goodbye video and you kind of trashed him.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Weren't you worried about that?

[B]

Yeah. So that's the thing, though. Like, I didn't use his name.

[E]

It's.

[B]

I literally just said, like, not trying to get sued, anything like that. And then the defamation claim comes through, and it's like, you can see my face. And we're like, you can't. He's like, people know it's me. And I was like, no, they don't. And so that was his biggest thing. He was so adamant about, like, getting that video down, which was like. He's like, I've lost so many jobs because of that video. You know, people look up the last thing I did, and they see that video. They. And we were, like, requesting. You're like, show us when your last actual job was. And, like, I don't think we ever got it, you know, and.

[D]

But, yeah, so you start making videos with Pat.

[B]

So, like, once, it was just kind of at a lull, you know, and, like, the ball kind of starts rolling, and we, like, start getting traction and figuring out, like, what kind of videos we want to make and the route we want to go, you know, and stuff like that. And it starts going pretty good. And then Anthony comes in, and this is so random, you guys, but it's.

[C]

Like, so who's Anthony? Sorry. So.

[B]

So he's just basically like, me and Cody's partner or whatever, but he just, like. He's basically like my business mentor, and he's actually a phenomenal one. And he's just, like, one of the boys. He's awesome. He's hilarious. He doesn't want anything to do with, like, being on video or anything like that, but he was, like, super interested in, like, the online store type of thing. And at first, me and Pat were, like, super cautious. Like, he sent us an email, and he's just like, hey, I would love to learn how this works. And we're like, here we go again. Yeah, here's round two. And so we, like, ignore his email. He sends out another one, and we just ignore it. Anyways, I get this DM on Instagram from his daughter. She's like 15 at the time. And she's like. And I didn't know it was daughter. She's like, hey, I'm turning 16 soon. I saw your truck was for sale. I really want to buy it. And I'm like, okay, the Clapter?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And you were like, jumping on the road.

[A]

So this. This is the best part of the story. So he told her.

[B]

He's like, you know what? You negotiate your own deal. You want your first car. Like, they made a deal. He'll get her first car. And so she's like, what do you want? And I just throw the Hail Mary out there, you know, just like, not even close to what the things were. And she goes, it's like 15 grand or something. And the thing was pretty clapped, you know?

[D]

Yeah, the clapped her. Yeah.

[A]

And she goes, okay, we'll be there this weekend. And I'm like, yeah. And anyway, so they, like, show up.

[B]

I got my white Mustang still at.

[A]

The time, and I'm like, get in. Let's go for a ride. And I'm like, swinging around the parking.

[B]

Lot, and we're hauling down the road, whatever, Come back. And they were all giddy, and we were, like, checking out the truck, and me and Tony go for a ride in the truck, and, dude, the rear end's literally about to, like, leave. Like, you put it in gear and it's like, clunk.

[A]

And he's like, what? So what is that back there?

[B]

I'm like, oh, it's gen one thing.

[A]

They all do rolling around in the back.

[B]

Yeah, literally.

[A]

I'm like, that's just. Just a Gen 1 thing.

[B]

I'm like, mine over there does it too. And he. I didn't even realize, but he came.

[A]

In the same truck, and he didn't.

[B]

Say, like, mine doesn't do that. And he's like, well, she really wants it, so I'll take it. And he just hands me an envelope of cash, and we go in the house, and I just count it all.

[A]

Right in front of him, and he's.

[B]

Like, all right, is it all there?

[A]

I'm like, yeah, it's there.

[B]

He's, like, leaving, driving it at home.

[A]

And the thing's, like, falling apart.

[B]

And he calls his wife, and he's like, I just got so bent, I.

[A]

Could not tell my daughter no.

[B]

Anyways, when he was there, he's like, yeah, I was the guy that was trying to email you, and we're like, oh, yeah, we're, I don't know, kind of just trying to stay away from that stuff. And he's like, no. He's like, I don't want anything. And he's like, I'll actually make like a document that says I want nothing in return. But he's like, I'm curious how like the giveaway business works, you know? And he's like, I just, I want to see how it goes. He's like, what if we just do this? He goes, I'll buy your next item. And he just. So I was like, let me come in and see how like the Shopify store works, how you guys promote and stuff like that. And he goes, if you don't even make your money back. He goes, in the thing it says, you don't owe me anything. Like, I'm just curious to see how it works. And I was like, okay, so like, we do it and I think we had like the slingshot or the Ranger at the time. And that was like the first one we did. And Sonny's like, well, he's like, would you ever help me like, open my store? And I'm like, sure. And like, we just start like hanging out and like, we actually got along like super well or whatever. And he was like showing me this and that. He's like, well, if you help me with my story, he goes, I'll like help you with like your accounting and stuff. Because at the time I was paying like, I think over 25 grand in a year just to have like my books done and stuff. Just because, man, insane. Well, I'll handle that. And he's like, that'll save you a bunch of money and stuff. And so like, I help him open the how Coke gear store or whatever and we start doing that. And anyways, it just kind of evolved into just like being friends or whatever. And then that's how we just kind of like started bumps. And that's just kind of like our baby together, which is what we do. So he's just like.

[D]

The sunglasses business.

[B]

Yeah, sunglasses business. And that's just kind of what we do. So we just hangs out with us and kind of like mentors us business wise, handles the books and stuff like that. But he likes going to like, events and stuff like that. So we just kind of hang out and it's freaking awesome because, like, that's the thing I was kind of looking for. And I'm so grateful, like ever since he came into my life, like, I was so skeptical, so scared, just like Kept pushing back, pushing back, pushing back, and, like, didn't want anything to do with it. Like, it's been awesome. Like, I've learned more now than, like, I ever have.

[E]

You know, it was almost that business mentor that you were looking for in the beginning, someone who has run businesses.

[B]

And has done things, and. And it's super cool, and we have, like, a lot of common, you know, and, like, it's awesome because, like, if I do something, like, super dumb, you know, and it's. It's not like, the dad thing, you know, or you get, like, scolded by your dad or whatever, he'll just be like, well, would you. That was stupid. You're gonna do that again, you know, and he's just like, all right, let's, like, move on to the next thing, you know, it's kind of a mentor and a friend in business, you know, and kind of, like, just showed me the path of, like, running numbers, you know, and we just kind of do our thing on camera. And me and Cody are kind of, like, the promoter side of the Sunglasses, and he's like, I'll just run the backside, and it works out really well.

[E]

Nice.

[D]

So what's going on on the. On the YouTube end?

[B]

It's literally just me and Cody doing our thing, and that's kind of what we're trying to dial in now. And it's so funny. So we, like, shut the banging site down for a while because, like, sunglasses have. Within the last two months. This is, like, the coolest part. So, you know, everything was just in my life kind of dwindling. And like I said, I started going, like, the therapy and make better decisions. I mean, Cody started going to the gym every morning. You know, you just, like. You feel more dialed in when you're just, like, healthier, in a better mindset, and you get more creative and stuff like that. And within the last two months, like, I've been having so much fun, never laughed so much, and, like, it really rebuilt my relationship with Cody, which is, like, the greatest thing. And cousin. Yeah, yeah, Literally my cousin. And, like, we've been literally living it up together. And, like, as soon as that starts happening, like, other good things start happening, you know? And, like, last month when we were doing that 23 for 23 deal, like, our videos were doing okay, but it was, like, nothing, like, in the millions of views or even like, barely at 100,000 views, and some were lower, some were higher, and it was, like, our best month we've ever had, ever.

[D]

As far as sales.

[B]

Sales for and it was, like, it was awesome. Just because we were being smarter, doing better, like, just overall looking at different routes we can go, you know, like, we tried advertising on Hulu, Netflix, Snapchat, like, all that, like, traditional advertising and stuff. And, like, it works, but it's so crazy. I think I saw you liked it. Did you watch mtv? Jesse's thing when he's talking about the core thing?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's literally what I saw and kind of, like, what we started doing. And I don't know, that's the thing. Like, we. And I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself of, like, the success I want to see. And we're basically starting from the ground up. And, like, bums has kind of just been like our baby. And I, like, I've loved sunglasses forever, obviously, like, the, the shield, and then it turned into the super big shield.

[C]

The craziest sunglasses.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't even know if some of them could be called sunglasses.

[A]

Some of them were, like, welding. Masks wear them, you know that, like.

[B]

That'S been the coolest thing. And, like, I, I, I'm not going to totally ditch it, but, like, the banging brand to me is. It's obviously super special because it, like, built me up into who I am, and I built it with you guys, and it's super fun, but I'm just. I've kind of found a passion for, like, an actual, like, item, you know? And the cool thing about sunglasses is, like, some of the people that are buying them don't even know who we are. Like, two giveaway winners ago, I called him, and I'm like, you won. He's like, won what? I'm like, a. No, timber sled with the. It was like the pit bike timber sled. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Anyways, yeah, I saw, I saw that, that call, and I laughed.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, that's good.

[B]

He had no idea, thought it was a scam, had never heard of us, had no idea who we are.

[D]

And that's what you want.

[C]

That's exactly what you want.

[B]

I'm like, okay, we're reaching people that don't know who we are. And that's the thing that I love is, like, everybody loves sunglasses. But I have so many people that.

[A]

Are like, hey, will you make a T shirt?

[B]

Like, I'd buy one, but I don't want it to say. Banging. I'm like, I get it. Like, it's, it's cool. You know, it's. My audience is like, that's for my actual core audience, you know? But, like, it's so fun building something that has a chance of, like, outliving my lifetime, you know? And that's, like, what I ultimately have a passion for, you know? Like, we've been just doubling down, and we just ordered a ton more shades and are looking at different manufacturers, new box boxes, trying to figure out a way to get, like, an ambassador program going where, like, athletes can have their signature shade or whatever, and, like, kind of trying to figure out how to snowball. And, like, my. My goal at the end of the day is to be like a. A blenders, you know, or like this. Something of, like, that, you know, Like. Yeah. I just love sunglasses so much.

[D]

Well, I think you got a great name in the. And I've heard the product's great, but I haven't gotten any bums myself, which is because around here gets a pair of bums. Except for your boys, dude.

[A]

His girlfriend even is only, like, three pairs, bro.

[D]

Unbelievable. You can't hook a homie up. Well, I'll buy them.

[A]

No, no, I tell you what. I tell you what.

[B]

I'll bring a bunch over. If you like them, then you buy them.

[D]

No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But, no, it is. It's great. And I'm happy to see that, yeah, you have created a product that is bigger than yourself and has the potential to be bigger than yourself or a YouTube channel or anything like that, which is awesome. And I think that's exactly what, you know, people make videos for.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In our.

[D]

In our case, you know, we're still trying to figure out even what that is for us, but, you know, I think that's the ideal situation for any creator. It is to. To create something like that.

[B]

And the cool thing, too, is, like, it's just kind of been something to grab on to, you know, for hope, too. It's just, like, it. It honestly has helped, like, my mental health a lot because now I kind of have a. You know, when you have, like, a vision or a path, like, it's so much easier to. Okay, I'm wake up every day with.

[D]

With, you know, where you're going.

[C]

Intent. Intent.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And, like, that's the, like, sometimes. And you guys probably get it. The hard thing is, like, okay, let's sit down, have a meeting. What are we gonna film? You know? And it just gives me, like, a sign of relief that we're, like, we're making videos for a reason to push bums into being bigger than me or the YouTube channel or any, like, thing that I just. If it'll it has the chance of catching on, you know, and becoming maybe not a total A list, mainstream sunglass, but enough to where like they'll sell themselves. And like that was, that was the coolest part about last month. We didn't have a giveaway, we didn't have nothing going on. And like it was the best we ever did. And we're like, okay, like there's something there.

[D]

Like people are buying them $23 shades for 23 days. And it was like a marketing, right? Just like, just a marketing idea that was. Yeah, yeah, that was great. That was great. And, and leaned on, you know, being more creative and obviously it worked.

[B]

And we were basically just pushing them through like Instagram just coming up with funny reels. Whether it was just like I had like Andrew's kid do on her. Cody's telling everybody they're all free. You know, that's funny.

[A]

People were just geeking out over it.

[B]

And I was like, okay, like, I'm loving this. Like, we're in.

[C]

They're cool shades too, by the way. Like, I mean the, all the styles are, you know, they're cool and then they're at a price that's actually fair. Right? You know, so I mean it's really is a no brainer that people love them and that's. You just had to get the product in front of them.

[B]

Right? And that's like the hardest part is like, I obviously I bought like really dumb stuff, but I've never bought a pair of Ray Bans because I can't keep track of sunglasses, you know, like we own a sunglass company and I'm.

[A]

Losing them left and right. Like it's terrible.

[B]

And, but that's kind of like why I started. It is just like a good, affordable, awesome, speed, kids, flashy college shade. And then you got like the more black or whatever for the older people. But yeah, it, it's just cool how it kind of came full circle as a passion. But it started off with just big shades and then big shades. Then I'm like, okay, not everybody gonna wear those.

[A]

We did sell those.

[D]

Do you remember that, dude?

[C]

I hop up a picture of that.

[A]

I have the original and it's not here.

[C]

But yeah, those things, they were so cool, but you couldn't see well.

[A]

It said like, yeah, you're like so.

[D]

Not sure what I'm looking at, but it doesn't matter.

[C]

So you don't make banging merch at all anymore.

[B]

So what we're gonna do, we do. So we're kind of going to evolve It. So I'm basically just going to be selling like, limited packs. So there'll be a. A bronze pack, a silver pack, a gold pack, and a platinum pack. And it basically it'll just be like, bronze will be like T shirt, hat, silver will be T shirt, sweatshirt, hat, or something like that. And it'll just basically be kind of like drops of like 100 and just for the people that want the. The core, the. The OG designs or like the, The. I should say the OG group that supports the banging brand, you know? But I'm like, my main focus is just like, bums. Like, I'm all in on it. I don't want to forget about the other people that help me. But, like, I just. I love it and I see it being my future.

[D]

What did you learn after doing YouTube on your own?

[B]

Having a, like a group of seven when we started, you know, and like, being together, being stressed out about getting stuff done and then going to two people. You wear a lot of hats, dude. Like, it's insane.

[D]

Like, I still laugh when I see you holding a camera because you never.

[B]

Think it would ever happen.

[A]

And like, I've had to learn enough to use it.

[B]

Like, it just.

[A]

It doesn't fit right.

[B]

Like, it's. It's weird. But, like, I like it. I shouldn't say I love it, but, like, I have to learn to do it. And like, I enjoy it, but just like, making sure everything works. Like, okay, so we're having a drop tonight.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I gotta make sure all the products are cut in. I gotta make sure all this. Gotta make sure the inventory is good. I gotta make sure the website's live. So really funny. Literally coming back to it, we dropped a shade like two weeks ago. And the only reason we did it is because I forgot to change it from draft to active. And I was like, why are none of these selling? I'm like, oh, they're not on the website. And so, like, simple stuff like that and just like keeping everything in a row and like, working as a team. Like, okay, what are we going to film? How are we going to do it? When are we going to do it? Do you have enough time to edit? All right, when you're editing, I'll do this, this, and this. And just like keeping your ducks in a row, like, you got to be dialed, you know, and it. It's full time. Like, it's seven days a week, you know, and it. But if you love it, and that's the thing, if you love your job, you don't have to Work again. A day in your life.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

And you're living it.

[C]

I think a lot of the people at home don't realize how difficult running a YouTube channel is. Like, an actual. Like, a successful YouTube channel like that, where you're actually outputting content and. And doing all the things you know.

[B]

It's a grind. Like, it is. Everyone's like, oh, man, you guys must live the life.

[D]

Just play all day.

[B]

Yeah, they'd see us on a Tuesday. Or, no, sorry, they see you guys on Thursday out at the bar having some beers. Like, man, you guys just get to party all the time. Like, no, actually, we just uploaded a video, and, like, today's probably the only day we get to do something now. We got to go back tomorrow, you know, Like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday doesn't exist.

[E]

Yeah, it's just another day.

[B]

It's just today.

[E]

Like, you're working, and it's amazing how fast you post on Wednesdays. How fast Wednesday. Every week comes. It's like, it's Wednesday, and then it's like, boom, it's Wednesday again. Yeah, it's Tuesday, and you're trying to figure out how you're gonna get the video up.

[C]

I just remember when we used to do two a week.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I don't even know how we did it. It just was a different time. You just. When you have your back against the wall, it's really easy to, like, it's not easy, but it's just like, what.

[D]

Else you gonna do?

[B]

Me and Pat did that for, I think, two or three weeks when I had that diesel pickup, and, oh, my God, it was just. We were kind of both grumpy. It was brutal, you know? And, like, you need a serious team.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I think what people sometimes don't realize is, although the. What you're doing is fun, the capturing of it and making sure it all can be cut together and put into, like, a good presentation that's entertaining, makes. Takes away the fun, you know, because you're not just going riding. You're like, okay, we need to get.

[B]

A shot here, like, making sure the camera's on.

[C]

Yeah. How'd that shot, like, oh, we. Into the sun. Like, it. It becomes a little bit more stressful because you want it to turn out good. So that way you can output this good thing to your audience, you know, that you can be proud of.

[B]

We literally just had that problem. So, like, a GoPro was recording, and, like, it got bumped, and then the screen just, like, glitched, and it would have been hilarious. So we were gonna. Basically it was a total flop prank. But remember when you guys did the water thing to Evan? Well, we were going to do that to like Tony or my dad or whoever.

[D]

Water thing?

[B]

No, you put a bunch of water in the back seat with the lids on. So we were going to do that to Tony. And I had the GoPro on the dash, you know, it was going and it said it was going. And I didn't know. He didn't have his seatbelt on. And I'm driving like an a hole.

[A]

Instead of all the water going everywhere.

[B]

The Walmart dude just did us a super solid. Or Walmart McDonald's dude did us a solid. Put like the lids on tight, wrapped them up, put them in bags. I ordered waters. None of the water spilled.

[A]

But I put his head into the window and like gave him a concussion. Instead of pranking him, like he was sitting over here, I thought he had a seat belt on.

[B]

So I was going to whip it.

[A]

Over across the back seat.

[B]

So all the water. Yeah, he ends up just getting slammed.

[A]

Into the window and he's like, dude, what, what are you doing? I'm like, that was a bad prank.

[C]

So is he okay?

[A]

Yeah, he's good. But he's just like, what were you trying to do?

[B]

And we're like, we're gonna prank you.

[A]

But we missed it.

[D]

They give you 15 waters?

[B]

Yeah, I ordered five McDoubles and 15 waters.

[D]

They wouldn't do it for me.

[C]

That's cuz we strictly ordered water.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I told him we had a crew working up, down, up the road. Classic.

[C]

But that's even like the other thing. It's like that. And then like going into that prank, you're probably wondering, like, how are we going to film this? So do we just put a GoPro here? Should we have someone running a camera to get the other shot? Because like, you know, and it just makes it difficult. Yeah, it makes it more, just more work put into it, but.

[B]

Right.

[E]

Intensive. I can't tell you, Jake, you know, watching from the outside, going through all the emotions that we have and now in the last few years, really coming back together now we're homies. We're sending memes in the group chat back and forth every day. We're texting, you know, what are you guys doing? Cody's saying, get that bread in the morning, stuff like that. To watch you find a rhythm again and be happy. And C.J. was talking about how you look healthier and stuff like that. When you smile now, I can tell it's real. And you're not just smiling so everybody else thinks you are. And I can't tell you as, like, your best friend how good that feels to see someone doing well and being happy and catch a flow.

[C]

It's the best, dude.

[B]

Thanks.

[F]

And like, to piggyback off of that, obviously, big ups to you. It's so cool being best friends with you and Cody and seeing you guys like that made me so happy when you guys are. Yep, it's us two now. It doesn't really get much better than that because you guys, like, you said, you rekindled the relationship and then started making.

[B]

Well, that was the coolest thing. How it came full circle is like, so me and Cody were, like, best friends from childhood up, you know, and then, like, we got into high school, and then when we kind of went to college, we started, like, slowly peeling apart. Instead of seeing each other every day, you know, he'd, like, come up to school or whatever we were doing. And, you know, after Pat left, Cody just kind of came in and it was awesome. Like, it was so fun. Like, we just started doing stuff and it, like, totally rebuilt our relationship. And it was like those years that we missed, like, just came in in a couple months and we were just giving her again, you know, it only made sense, too.

[C]

Like, it just is such a natural collective.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

You know, sure. Bricks together.

[E]

You know what's crazy? Cormorants got to have the highest capital.

[A]

Of YouTubers in the whole world. Like, la, dude.

[E]

Freaking cormorant.

[A]

Yeah, there's, like, population us, bro.

[D]

No kidding, dude, there's what? Every other person's a YouTuber in this town.

[A]

Literally.

[C]

Yeah, man.

[D]

Now we. Now we got Big Wrench.

[A]

Yeah, we got Big Wrench.

[C]

Big wrench. Now YouTuber too. He has brain to people.

[A]

We're starting a channel.

[C]

Well, he's a part of this channel. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

We're bringing outsiders in.

[A]

Oh, my God, that's hilarious. What do you do for work?

[B]

A YouTuber.

[D]

Yeah, it is fun. It is fun. People in the town, I got to be like, God damn, they're multiplying shops coming up everywhere.

[A]

Jesus.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

How's. How's Davey doing?

[B]

Your dad, dude, that's like. The other thing too, is I don't think my relationship with my dad has ever been stronger. Ever since, like, our work life, kind of like separated. Separated, you know, like, like, obviously. And I loved it. And we get along great. It's not like we had any problems, but, like, we just work together all the time and, you know, like you don't really do father son stuff after you've been been with them 15 hours a day for seven days a week for three months. You know, like that stuff you just. When I go home, I'm like, all right, I want to go hang out with my friends or go do other stuff, you know? And now that I'm not there, like, we do all kinds of stuff together that is just non work related. Like in a couple weeks, me and my dad are getting matching brands. I don't want to do it. It's gonna suck, but I'm doing it because.

[D]

Why don't you just get a tattoo?

[A]

I'm getting one of those too.

[B]

But I'm, I'm.

[C]

I want brand's cooler.

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna actually get like the shubrook s right on our chest.

[C]

No, like a superman almost.

[B]

Oh yeah, dude, it's gonna be awesome. And I thought he was kidding. He's like, nope, we're doing it. They ordered the brand. It's on the way. We're flying to a cattle farm and we're just gonna lay on the ground and then.

[C]

You're gonna do it at a cattle farm?

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna have a doctor there. Oh yeah, we're getting matching brands.

[E]

A cattle doctor, but so sick, dude.

[B]

It'S gonna actually be pretty bad.

[C]

Are you gonna film that?

[B]

Obviously.

[C]

Obviously.

[B]

Put it on the channel.

[C]

Yeah, you can't not. You know what, it's crazy.

[A]

You could get it too because it's.

[D]

An S. Oh yeah, Cody.

[A]

No, I gotta film. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

He's like, oh, someone's gotta film this.

[C]

So. But you.

[B]

We get, we just do like rambunctious stuff together. You know, it's like he'll come up with an idea. He's like, let's try this, let's try that.

[C]

It's been cool, dude. For the. I'm sure the, some of the viewers have seen your dad on video, but if you ever meet Jake's dad after you met Jake, you go, oh, makes sense why he's.

[A]

Yeah, literally apple like fell, right?

[C]

Yeah, we were actually. We saw him. I don't know, it must have been a month ago now. We were at the in eating and.

[D]

He, he bought all of our dinner on his birthday.

[B]

On his birthday.

[C]

We were gonna buy him dinner and then he bought our dinner.

[B]

That is the most deep thing ever.

[D]

He goes, well, you already owe me everything, so what's one more dinner?

[A]

Hasn't changed.

[D]

Yeah, I love that. It's funny.

[B]

God, that is so good, Dave.

[D]

Yeah, that Guy's one of a kind.

[B]

So is there any like. Hold on, let me go through this list and make sure.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, we got all the time. This is great.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, you go through the list.

[B]

I gotta take a. Dude, I actually do too.

[C]

Oh, we're good to go.

[B]

Can we take a pause?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

All right.

[B]

We're back.

[E]

We needed to refuel, take a bathroom break.

[B]

We're back now.

[C]

Yep.

[E]

Now it's time to ask the real burning question. Jacob.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

You and your cousin Cody race your Mustang against his BMW. Did he really wax you?

[B]

You guys understand he blew my doors.

[D]

What's up with that, Jake?

[B]

Dude, I'm telling you.

[D]

No offense, Cody, but Jake, the curse.

[A]

Is still alive and well. I ain't winning nothing.

[D]

You went to Texas to pick up this Mustang. You get back here and you get beat by an almost stock BMW. No offense, Cody.

[C]

It's not. Cody's got a fast BMW, but you would just think a supercharged.

[A]

Supercharger is. It looks cooler than it is. Because it's a. It's a.

[C]

It's a. It's just for looks.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

It.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's a warranty, like install. So it's maybe on like a.20 more horsepower than factory.

[B]

So like it's got stock injectors, stock fuel system. It's literally like a bolt on Whipple and a Whipple tune and that's it.

[D]

So why did you go to Texas for it?

[B]

Because it was a good deal and Ryan actually kind of nailed it right on the spot. So like obviously besides my pole debacle, the body was in like okay shape but nothing like crazy. And the motor was super strong and it didn't have any wild parts on it, which I didn't want because I wanted like a, a solid car and the blowers like 15 grand and the hard parts out of the way.

[C]

Holy. 15 grand?

[B]

Yeah, because. So it's a 3 liter Whipple and they can push like 30 pounds of Boost, which is like 1500 wheel on a coyote. And it's on like 4 pounds or 6 pounds right now.

[D]

Is that what our Ford Ranger has?

[B]

Are you actually putting a 3 liter Whipple on your Ranger?

[D]

No, we just bought one that has one in it actually. Well, we're doing something else at the Ranger.

[B]

But anyway, so like my, my end goal with this car is I just want to build into like a full blown drift car. So that's what we're doing. So I like been talking with Vaughn and the RTR team and they've just been loading me with parts. So I'm doing full, like, 90 degree fun. Haver kit, widebody kit. I got, like, the RTR wheel set up. And it. I just want, like, the most rowdy, obnoxious, daily drift car.

[D]

Of course you do. The key word of that is daily.

[B]

Yeah, see, that's the thing. Everyone's like, oh, you won't be able to daily it. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna.

[C]

You can daily anything. It just depends. Means what you can live with.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I almost asked, where are you gonna drive this thing, Jake? But then you answered my question. Everywhere. Yeah, I mean, dude, it doesn't. I don't think you could, like, physically or possibly make a louder car than that white Mustang.

[A]

And that's the goal is what I try. I want it back.

[B]

Like, I. I need that.

[C]

What's up with Bethany?

[D]

You love Mustangs, bro.

[A]

Dude, I do.

[B]

And that's the thing. Like. And I. I was. I wanted to go different route. And, like, I. You probably would have thought it was cool, but R34s are now legal in the US yeah. So I'm like, that's the route I want to go. And then, like, I saw the new RTR Mustang. I'm like, okay, that's pretty sick. Such a. And then I just, like, sent a hail Mary to Von. I'm like, how do I get one of these kits? He's like, I'll send you over to my buddy Jim and you guys can work something out. And I'm like, let's go. So that we just went for it.

[D]

That'll be sick.

[E]

Yeah, but your first drifting experience didn't go that well.

[D]

Yeah. What's up with that, too?

[A]

It's right there.

[E]

I got the video, dude. Granted, it looks like it did pretty well.

[D]

Yeah. Congrats on the viral clip.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[D]

Jay.

[C]

What's up with you Mustang guys?

[D]

Dude.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You just couldn't help yourself, huh?

[A]

No, I. 6.4 million people now know I can't drive.

[D]

It almost looks like you did it on purpose.

[A]

No, I didn't. I. I wish I could play it off and say I did. That's just.

[C]

I don't know, man.

[D]

The cards are lining up. Yeah.

[A]

You think of that perfectly. Put it in the poll.

[D]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[A]

You think I'm that good?

[D]

Never mind. Yeah, good point.

[A]

No, so, like, my. I was like, Cody was at the.

[B]

Shop, Tom was at the shop. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna come.

[A]

In hot, you know, like, because I've.

[B]

Done that corner a million times. I'm like, I'm just gonna step it.

[C]

Up a little bit.

[B]

And it just looped out. The thing is with the Mustang, to turn them into like drift cars or go drifting with them, there's like a lot of actual stuff you got to do. Such as, like the steering racks in them are electronic. So like, you know, like in your drift car or like, you know, when you're just drifting a car and you throw the wheel, it'll return on its own. The Mustangs don't. Because it's electronic steering rack.

[D]

And you should have bought a Miata.

[B]

Exactly. Which in hindsight I should have just kept the one I had and then.

[A]

Just use that to practice.

[B]

Practice with.

[C]

But you were explaining that to me the other day and you were saying that's why every. You always see these clips of these Mustangs doing like, basically losing control and hitting crowds or poles or houses or whatever the it's hitting in that video, which seems to be a trend with Mustangs, is because of that electronic steering rack.

[B]

Yeah. Well, the thing is that like, the old Mustangs didn't have that, so it's still.

[A]

It's still stereotypical.

[C]

It's got to just be the drivers.

[B]

Yeah, that's probably two. You know, we're just a different breed. But the other thing too is so everyone's like, why don't you hit the brakes? I had them locked up. But you got to like pull the ABS fuse, cuz they go, yeah, so whatever. But I don't know. I'm just a bad driver.

[E]

Dude.

[D]

Dude. So you're getting toasted. Roasted and toasted in the Mustang groups or what?

[B]

Oh yeah. So there is a Mustang group on Facebook. I'm a part of it. Every Mustang person's a part of it.

[C]

The.

[B]

The page is bigger than my YouTube channel itself and my videos front and center pinned to the top. And it says, this is why you don't.

[A]

Or this.

[B]

This is why daddy shouldn't give their sons their car. And I'm just like, see, I'm just kidding.

[D]

I feel like no Mustang guy has any ground to stand.

[A]

No, no. The only person that does is like.

[B]

Vaughn and the goat.

[A]

But we're all just trying to be like him.

[F]

If there's one thing that I know you're. You're having fun in the comments in that. In that Mustang group, though.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I'm loving it. The amount of times I've had like, temporary ban in that group. Everyone is just violent.

[D]

You've always been doing that. Yeah, you've never gotten temporary banned from every Facebook group since we've been friends.

[A]

Yeah, dude, there's this Snow Cross page that Cody will send me it, and.

[B]

It'S just, like, locked. I'm like, ah, banned from that one.

[C]

You've never backed down to a Facebook comment section battle or Instagram comment section battle. You don't. You'll be there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I'm in, like, I'm keyboard warrior, like, class A status.

[C]

Yeah. You're replying if someone's talking shit.

[A]

Absolutely. I have been from day one. Do you guys remember Nicholas Conicello.

[C]

Ever? Who was that guy? Didn't you guys get to the bottom of that?

[D]

So.

[C]

So for backstory, you'll remember now, Ryan.

[B]

I have every single comment ever on.

[C]

My laptop in a folder to the listeners or viewers. When we first started up our YouTube channel, this was in the first year, there was this one guy, his name was Nicholas Conicello, and he would comment, like. I mean, as soon as we post the video, it was like, he would comment something very negative towards us. And especially Jake.

[D]

Just Jake.

[C]

And with Jake, he would get very, like, personal with, like, factual details of his life that we hadn't even leaked yet. So we're like, is this guy getting this information? Is this someone in the area with an alias name? Is this someone random that's doing a ton of research? Where are they finding this? So what was the deal with that? Didn't you guys come to an event?

[A]

I think we all did and figured it out. But the weirdest part is, yeah, he knew my girlfriend.

[B]

He knew everyone in my family. Like, he would just, like, come.

[C]

He's a stalker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, dude, that's the thing, you know.

[B]

The comment that's like, first. He was first, like, every single video, you know?

[D]

Dude, the weirdest part is then MTV hit us up and wanted to do a show on. My God, that was another one.

[B]

I think we thought he was that guy.

[C]

Oh, what if they were planning that?

[D]

What if they were plants?

[C]

They knew about him, bro.

[B]

That's what it was like.

[C]

What if they set it up for the show? They're like, oh, perfect. This will be a perfect online presence to do a prank on. And they were setting up, and then the show never aired.

[D]

Besides the fact that it's bullying, like, it's just straight. Yeah, he was getting really cursed, bro. Like, for a show idea. Like. Like, creators meeting, like, their biggest hater online. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's just.

[B]

Dude, that's pretty. Like, imagine if that wasn't me and someone who like took that stuff like.

[C]

And like their own life or something. Yeah, they're just like they were setting it up for some big show. Yeah, they just probably would just act like nothing ever happened. I'm sure that would make them.

[D]

Otherwise how would they know that, like he was like our biggest.

[C]

But where the were they getting that information that wasn't online? Like he was hitting details that only a person that knows in the area.

[B]

That is a friend of a friend.

[C]

That knows you and has known you for a long time would know. Yeah, it is very strange.

[D]

You know what? My only problem with your hot headedness in Facebook groups is, Jake, everyone still thinks you're a seaboy. And we get drugged into every single.

[B]

Time that deal Power crew like last week.

[D]

Were beefing with dude se hashtag all this and we're like, if you ever do anything bad, it comes as well. It's all of us.

[A]

When I saw the hashtags and stuff, I'm just like, let that one go right through to that. Just kind of let that skirt through.

[B]

But no.

[A]

So there's this dude, he doesn't even.

[B]

Deserve his name out there, but he's got a Lambo, like Benz or whatever.

[C]

And he's a flex offender.

[A]

I literally go, hey, I got a buddy that's got one of those, but he's not a dick. And anyway, so we like start to.

[B]

Try and gap him in this supra and he's like, no, I know that thing's fast. I'm like, what do you buy a fast car and you don't want to race or whatever. And then like I went out for the drifting thing and just totally looped it my first run. So classic.

[C]

So you kind of set that up on yourself then. But granted, he was kind of being a D bag.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

No, you, you put yourself in there.

[B]

I was just trying to start a little something for the video, you know, and I was kind of kidding, you know.

[C]

Did you have it on the video like you. You talking?

[A]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you put. Yeah, it's in the video. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm pretty sure it's in the first minute.

[D]

Good.

[A]

I literally see the Lambo come through.

[B]

I'm like, oh, my buddy's got one of those, but he's not a dick.

[A]

And then like.

[D]

And he also thinks he can beat your ass. Yeah, yeah. His name is Ben Roth. Just in case you don't. He shows up at the door number, his address Too.

[C]

I'm here to fight your friend. Jake said you wanted to fight me. Just in your front lawn on, like.

[D]

A Friday morning, like, huh. Well.

[A]

News to me.

[D]

Yeah. No, that. I feel like that happens all the time still. You know how many people we meet that are like, have some kind of something to say? And they're like, yeah, yeah. You see boys. Yeah, Jake.

[C]

And.

[D]

And you get brought up. And we're like, nope, nope, nope.

[B]

He.

[F]

He left.

[C]

He left.

[A]

He was actually on his own. He's across the water. He's on the other side of the lane.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

He's on the south side of Cormorant.

[D]

It's so funny how we both probably have, like, our own issues and we're still drug into both of each other's lives, literally.

[B]

Like the tracks on the Raptor thing or.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

Jammed up for a bit.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or I went to ndsu.

[C]

I mean, we might have.

[A]

Probably did some. You're not allowed around here anymore. I'm like, whoa, whoa. What are you talking about?

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I'm not.

[A]

I wasn't there, like.

[B]

And they're like, huh, sure, buddy.

[D]

What was the story with that one? Yeah, you went there with the toilet on the back of the truck.

[F]

I'm sorry.

[C]

Another manager influenced.

[D]

And then. And then you got pulled over.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And they were like, you're not. Yeah. You're blacklisted. Yeah, because we were there, like, three weeks prior on our pit bikes.

[B]

Yes, I know.

[A]

Like, we caught you last week with pit bikes. And they're like, if they see a.

[B]

Camera, they're like, yeah, they're the only ones that do that.

[C]

I'm like, I kind of kissed that goodbye. Like, what would ever happen if we needed to go back to college? Like, we got a little bit of credits built up there. Like.

[A]

Like, we want them back.

[C]

They're like, we have nothing. No recollection you've been here.

[D]

Like, what?

[C]

I mean, I don't got much to.

[D]

Show for it, but I got a little, like, my 16 credits.

[C]

Yeah, here's my. I had a half a semester. No, I had more than that.

[A]

But, you know, the only thing I have from NDSU is 30 unpaid parking tickets, and I still have.

[C]

Might be partway band.

[D]

Whatever happened with that?

[A]

Still got them.

[B]

Still ain't paying them.

[C]

How many parks?

[B]

No, I'm pretty sure I thought it.

[D]

Was more than that.

[B]

Dude, didn't we bust them all out?

[A]

I think I counted 33.

[C]

We would hang them. Well, you would hang them all around the banging around the Just entryway to the. In the college house, which basically turned into a merchandise shop. Just, you know, the merch. Yeah, there was like one seat and it was in front of the computer to print labels.

[B]

But, dude, I actually got really good at it, though, on how not to get them. So I would take one of my dad's vehicles because, remember when you signed up for school, you put a car with a license plate and then that ticket would get attached to your account. Well, when I'd go to class at Barry Hall, I would turn on the strobe lights, leave the car running out front and go into class, come out, no ticket.

[C]

It was a hack, actually. Pretty funny.

[D]

Yeah, that is a hack.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I think you might have broke the.

[B]

System that was dialed.

[D]

That's actually a really good idea.

[A]

And I got front row parking every day.

[C]

Dude, that was fun times, man. Yeah, yeah, we've had a lot of fun times together. But, like, oh, man.

[B]

Here's a question I wanted to ask you guys. So I'm guessing you did watch my why I Left video. Yeah, I thought it was very, very.

[D]

Well said and well produced, too.

[C]

Yeah, I think that was my favorite.

[B]

Video I think we've ever made. Crazy backstory on that. When me and Pat were making it. Day of posting, Pat was talking to me about how Premier can sometimes crash and get rid of your whole project. And I'm talking. Pat's had, like, weeks into this thing. Like, we. We, like, we thought this whole video out, right? Like, we're going to like, I got nothing to my name right now. We got no money. We got nothing. I'm like, I got this Mustang that's paid off and that's it. And so we're like, I'm going to make the wild video and give away my car at the end.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Right before we're gonna launch the video. Maybe the afternoon of the whole project's gone. Like, everything's gone. And so, like, we're like, panicking. And I'm like, does this happen often? Like, Pat's like, no. He's like, I just go into my most recently saved, and he's like, it'll come back for like two hours. He's looking for this thing and he's freaking out. And finally he found, like, what are those files that are, like, lower quality and then you can up them up or whatever and link the clip. So we got it back together and got it out.

[E]

Oh, God, dude, that had to be so stressful.

[B]

Oh, it was terrifying. And then originally we thought, like, oh, like, Bob's logged into all of our accounts. You know, we're like, he did this. And no, it was like we were like, it's first thing that came to our head. Because during that time, I don't know if you guys remember, but there was like a month when. Not a month, not quite, but, like, where we didn't post any videos because in between him leaving and us doing, like, our thing, like, he, like, locked the channel, changed the password, changed all that, and, like, we couldn't get into it. And then we. We got it back real quick. But then, so we're like, oh, my gosh, he's probably still logged into all these other accounts. We're, like changing passwords, everything and stuff like that, but we got it. But my question was in that video when I was saying, like, what was more fun to film to you guys, like, now having pretty much almost every toy you wanted or like then in the beginning? Because it's two very different times.

[D]

Me and CJ talked about this yesterday. We were talking about this with our friend Spencer and his filmer who has watched for a long time. And, you know, we're kind of explaining how we got a little bit more. A little bit more structure. A lot bit more structure right now or options. And I. I think that we are so much more creative now because we have more of a budget. And I think creativity is a muscle that only gets stronger with time. And the more you use it, the more you become more creative.

[B]

Right.

[D]

But to answer your question, on the fun side is I honestly probably have more fun now.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Yeah, I. I think so.

[B]

I can kind of see how you're saying that because there was so much.

[D]

I'm unknowing back then.

[B]

That was the thing for me is like, that the. The fun side of it, I should say, is, like, when an idea would just pop up, I just get juiced. You know, when it would come out of thin air and, like, we just went and did it. Like, it was so hype.

[C]

I disagree with Ben's answer, but I don't necessarily think it was more fun back then. I think both of them had their pros and cons. Back then. It was, like, fun. It was fun in the fact that it was lighter. There wasn't so much weighing on it. Whereas now I feel like there's a lot more to live up to each. Each upload. And also we have more, obviously, money put into making this a good thing. So you want to be good. But so, like, I remember it being lighter and maybe more just light. Hearted back then. But also I remember it being slightly frustrating because. Because people wouldn't. We just weren't really all on the same page and it, it was hard to film, which is maybe why some of those weren't as good. Whereas, like, maybe now I would say all of us, you know, understand, you know, maybe how to make a video now, just because we have all done it over time and maybe we've gotten a little bit smarter over the past seven years. You know, you can plan things out better. So in that, I remember being frustrating because I'd be like, let's do this. But everyone is just kind of like moving at 100 miles an hour.

[F]

Just like, I. I gotta say, like, I think the whole journey to me has been like, the same amount of fun, obviously, the ups and downs of frustrations. But it, it's quite literally like raising a child. So you got your. Your. We got a son and. And you're like, I kind of missed those old days when he was three years old and didn't know much. And it was fun. We were just having fun. But also now he's like, let's say 10, 11, 12. Now he can kind of do things with you. You might miss the old days, but you can do a lot more now. That's kind of how it feels.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I go, that's a great way of saying it.

[C]

You really, you really gotta be just being in the moment, present and, and enjoy the process as it goes. Because if you're not enjoying the process and you're constantly looking, which you do have to look at the next thing. But, like, if you're constantly doing that, it just starts to really weigh.

[B]

I find that is like, I can't believe you said that. Because that's something I wanted to say. And that was like, the biggest problem I had. Like, I have never been one to dwell about the past, because the past, you cannot change, right? Like, at all, no matter what you do, no matter what you say. Like, nothing can change the past, but you can change the future. But the problem was I was always looking in the future. And honestly, like, I didn't really realize that until I started going to, like, therapy. Like, I used to, like, live in the now, quite literally, not care about tomorrow. But that's not a healthy way either because I was like, future Jake's problem, right? Well, then I'd like, that's a classic line of yours.

[C]

Yeah. Future Jake's problem.

[A]

Future Jake's problem.

[B]

Yeah, dude. I just remember doing that with my credit card.

[A]

I'm like, Future Jake, you are F'd order.

[B]

But yeah, it's kind of crazy to just like get pulled back in and now having a destination of where I want to go. The goal I see is like, even if I'm taking baby steps, I know I'm going in the right path rather than just like, you're so focused on if you're on the right path to get there. That, like, who did that was.

[C]

Who just ripped in front of.

[D]

That was Ev, bro.

[C]

Mike.

[D]

That was Mike.

[F]

No, that was not.

[D]

Sounded like it came from smiling, right? Now we're gonna know if it was Ev real quick.

[A]

Sorry we all pass out, guys. Just ruined my moment.

[C]

Farting on you.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah, but no, I actually don't think it was Ev.

[E]

He looks too in shock.

[B]

Big wrench.

[A]

Hasn't said much, but no.

[B]

And that's like, honestly, one thing that's like super helped me like, mentally is like, you know, you only can do today. Yeah, tomorrow's tomorrow. And which is like super big. And I'm like, glad I figured out now is like, there. There is like a balance in that rather than just living in the now, literally, versus just full on future. Like, just do it day by day, you know?

[D]

Something I've always tried to do is I've always been so proud of where we're at whenever it's been. Like when we first started, I was just proud that we had a following of 20,000 people. Like, I was so stoked on that. And then 100, and then we had a million. And I've like, tried to never compare what we're doing to anybody else or somebody else's success besides for our own, and just constantly be happy with the success but hungry for more.

[B]

Right?

[D]

And that's something that I've always tried to remind myself of and I guess just trust the process of it.

[B]

And that was like the hardest thing for the longest time, you guys, because, like, I was over there and you guys are right in the back door. So, you know, like, always watching, always doing this, you know, and like, it's just so hard to not compare. Or I should say it was, you know, like it was borderline impossible.

[D]

Right?

[B]

And in the mindset that I was in and now like, that I'm kind of steering into like a. A different lane, you know, as far as like my end goal or product or like where I want to do, like my. My end goal. Like, I love entertaining, I love YouTube, but like, I really don't think I'll do it forever, you know, Like, I'm I'm gonna do it as long as I can, but, like, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to, like, I want to work at bombs full time. Like, I just. I want that to be a thing. And, like, that's the. That was, like, the hardest thing for the longest time, and now I'm stoked if. Dude, I couldn't care if one person watches. Like, I just love to entertain that person. And, like, like you said, you can't compare, because guess what? There's always someone better. There's always someone with a faster car. There's always someone bigger than you. And, like, it. It humbles you real quick, you know? And you. You get that. And, yeah, just being happy with what you have and stoked for where you're going is, like, the coolest thing in the world.

[D]

Did you feel like, I guess, the momentum shift of. Of people then commenting on your videos, like, comparing you to us?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like, we still get that now. And, like, the thing is, like, you guys are a whole different monster than us, you know, like, our thing is, like, I just want to kind of do, like, car content, and, like, we host turf wars and stuff like that. And, like, Cody just wants to do rad dirt bike stuff, which she's freaking doing really good at. You know, he's like, the only person around here to start doing backflips, which is sick.

[D]

It's crazy.

[A]

It's awesome.

[B]

And for us to do, like, the snorkel thing and come with ideas like that week to week to week to week to week to week, like, that's just not, like, that's almost impossible for us for just, like, two of us.

[C]

You know, Damn near impossible for us.

[B]

Yeah, and that's the thing. Like, we're just kind of in a different caliber of, like, staying in our lane and trying to grow something else using this, you know, and hopefully that can attract its own audience, which we've shown it does, you know, through just people not knowing who we are. And that's what I'm mainly focused. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I think there's a lesson for that. Like, from that to literally anyone, no matter what you're doing, like, you got to run your own race. You got to be you, you know, like, you'll never be able to. To be a better version of somebody else, like, and no one else will be able to be a better version of you. So, like, you got to just do, like, you know, like, am I making sense? You got to run your own race, and you got to do. You know, you can't be constantly trying to do what other people are doing, because you'll never do it as good as them.

[B]

And I guess that literally was like the mindset I should say I wasn't in. And that's like, literally why when we were at like 60k or 80k, when I gave away my Mustang, I'm like, okay, they didn't give away a car yet. Let's give away a car. And you know, it was like impulsive and bad and like, I'm lucky that it like halfway worked. Like the, the opening night, like, it was, I should say the opening night and second night was like the biggest back to back day we've ever had. But it obviously, you guys know like numbers. Profitability wise, what you buy your merch for is a whole different thing. If I was doing what I would do now, we would have been awesome. But instead of. Instead, me and Pat were like, yo, we just made a bag. Let's go to Vegas. So we got tickets, went to Vegas.

[F]

I love it.

[D]

That is so you.

[A]

I love it, dude. The 21 year old mindset.

[B]

We're like, oh my God, we're rich. And at the time I was like, I don't need to get paid back for my car.

[A]

Let's go to Vegas. Like, I'll give that thing away to someone else. Make a new one another day.

[D]

You know, what's the story of Vegas? You guys went. You guys won a ton of money.

[B]

We won a ton of money. And by the end of the day, we didn't have two nickels together to.

[A]

Buy a hot dog, like opening, opening slot.

[B]

My brother pulls like four grand.

[A]

And I was like, we are in. We go buy $300 steaks, suits. He gives Pat like 250 bucks.

[B]

Pat all of a sudden's up 3k on blackjack.

[A]

And we're like, we are murdering it.

[B]

I'm on craps or. No, not craps, roulette. And I'm like, okay, this is awesome. Like, I turned I think $100 into $1500. I'm like, we are kings. We are awesome.

[F]

Night two.

[B]

We have $16,300. We're like roulette table all black, baby. Let's do it.

[C]

We gotta go to Vegas with you, man. No, hold on.

[F]

Finish.

[D]

Finish the story.

[A]

Okay, so how it went down, right? Everybody was so messed up.

[B]

There was no turning back, right?

[A]

Like classic Vegas story.

[B]

Like, you know, whatever. People make mistakes.

[A]

You live, you learn.

[B]

On.

[A]

We got lucky.

[B]

So my brother is so drunk that he's got hundreds falling out of his pocket, and I'm finding him just from.

[A]

Picking up the tray, and I'm like, this is great. You. We are living it up. So we go to the roulette table, put in a thousand boom nails at 2000.

[B]

We're like, all right, baby, let's go.

[A]

All of a sudden, we do 2000, we lose it.

[B]

We're like, okay, we got to do 4000 to get it back.

[D]

Classic. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. We lost that. We throw everything in at one time, and it hit, like, 10 or 12 blacks in a row, and we're like, okay, it's got to hit one of these times. We go back to the room, get more money, and we're like, all right, this is it.

[C]

It.

[B]

And, yeah, we lost it all. Had nothing. And then, yeah, 16, $300.

[F]

Dude.

[B]

Dude. It was a lot of fun, though. But there was like.

[A]

Like, that's the thing.

[B]

Like, we came out of there pretty unscathed, because the only reason we went to Vegas, we were supposed to go to Hawaii to meet up with, like, the go go guys or whatever. Well, my brother calls me. He's like, hey, I'm working in Vegas. There's a flight out of Fargo two.

[A]

Days before for 40 bucks. Take it.

[B]

I'm like, oh, yeah, we're in. And, yeah. So we just start living it up, partying like animals. Like, I'd never been to Vegas like that. Like, I went when I was 15 and got robbed by a stripper. That's, like, the worst thing ever. But anyways.

[D]

Oh, man, that'll still happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But, yeah, I think that's what they are there for.

[B]

Anyway. So.

[D]

Yeah, dude, I think that it's so fun when the whole gang gets back together and we can find film and have a good time, and there's no, like, weird vibes or, like. Like, two people trying to film, like, the same thing, which we've kind of ran into it, you know, it's kind of weird, but now it's just, like. Like, the homies hanging, dude, especially vibes are there, bro. It's always so fun. Like, when we were jumping into the pond.

[A]

Yeah. Gosh, I was in peak athletic form, bro.

[B]

No, it's. Dude, I will say, it's. It's so fun hanging out again. Like, just, you know, like, obviously, it slowly faded away, but, you know, like, that feeling was always there, and it was just, like, kind of iffy or whatever. And then, like, when we went on the boat with Ryan, like, a couple days ago or whatever, like, the vibes are so high. And like after this, dude, I feel like it, it's. It's good, you know, and it.

[D]

Peace has been restored in Cormorant.

[B]

Yeah, peace has been restored. And that's the other thing too is like I'm probably. I. I gotta say it where like I mean it. But I, I, like, I am sorry to you guys for the way like that everything happened. And yeah, I just definitely made my decisions out of like an emotional choice, you know, which wasn't the healthiest and. But at the end of the day, karma kicked me and I was in the Viking costume and you guys got the Lambo, so.

[D]

Well, we appreciate it, man.

[A]

We love apology.

[E]

We love you, man.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

And.

[F]

And we have to vice versa. We're truly sorry. If. If there's anything in that moment in time that we did to push you to make a decision like that. It's a two way street.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's.

[C]

I think this is the first time we've even said that out of both ends. Like, like, obviously both ends, it was like probably owe each other an apology. But the way we operate, we just don't even need to really say it. We just kind of like, we're good now. Yeah, we're good.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Without saying anything. Yeah.

[D]

Love you, bro.

[E]

It's all water under the fridge now, you know.

[C]

Yeah. I'm glad it, it honestly, like this podcast. I'm glad that it. Although it was. It was a very long time before it came out was good that it took this long because I feel like, you know, there's just no animosity to it. There's.

[B]

I feel like the emotional level.

[D]

There's.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like no one's heated anymore. No one. Like there's just nothing really.

[B]

It's been four years.

[C]

Yeah, dude, it's been four years.

[E]

Holy.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Beginning of 20 or three and three quarters. End of 19 or four years.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

Wait, I think, dude, this next year I will have been gone longer than you were here when I was here.

[D]

Dude. Isn't that crazy to think about though, that we've been doing this for like eight years?

[B]

Yeah. We're gonna come up on a decade.

[C]

I know.

[D]

We're like, oh, geez, man.

[C]

We really are though. I mean, as far as that goes.

[B]

And you guys feeling old?

[D]

Dude, my. Yeah, right now I'm feeling really old. I'm so jammed up.

[C]

I don't feel necessarily old, but hairline does. Yeah.

[A]

Cody's in the same boat, bro.

[C]

Dude, Cody and I, and maybe Mike, we're going to fucking Turkey, dude, Hair transplant.

[D]

Do it.

[C]

They got the cheapest transplants in the world.

[D]

Let's do it.

[E]

And get a dick enlargement.

[A]

Yeah. No, we ain't going there yet.

[D]

It is.

[C]

It is crazy, though. Like, dude, like, time is going so fast. Like, this summer is gone.

[B]

Dude. We're done.

[C]

Like, I. I look at our video schedule. We had a meeting this afternoon. We were, you know, writing down the next however many weeks, six weeks. And I'm going, holy. We're already at the end of September. It'll be October when we finish this last. Like, time flies like, the older you get.

[E]

And.

[C]

Yeah. Just. Yeah, I don't know. I. I'm really trying to just start enjoying, you know, the. The moment, the present. Because it's like you're only going to be as young as you are today, but. But the beautiful thing about where all of us are at and even big wrench, we don't really have to grow up. No, like, we. We will. We will look older, but, like, in theory, we could kind of just, you know, you only are as old as you as you feel and as old as you act. You don't have to. You don't have to get all mature and lame.

[D]

Lame. Yeah.

[C]

You can be cool for That's. That's up to you.

[B]

I feel like even though our, like, I don't want to say regular jobs, but, like, I feel like our dads, even though they have regular jobs, you know, like building houses, chiropractors, seeding lawns, whatever it may be, I feel like they have the same of a little bit in that. In them. And we kind of got that young at heart. Yeah. You know, like, they all still kind of do rambunctious stuff. Yeah. And they got the stories of their own, you know, 100.

[D]

Man. I'm glad. I'm glad peace has been restored, though. And I can't wait to, like, continue to do stuff with the whole gang.

[B]

Dude, it's fun.

[D]

I truly feel like that's like the best form of all of us. We.

[B]

We all are in our truest form. We are together.

[C]

We kind of owe Dave. Oh, we don't kind of. We owe Dave. We told him thank you, but thank you. Because when we, you know, before we were making YouTube videos, we would always be hanging out at Dave's shop, you know, his turfing area. And whether we were like, drifting cars around in the snow because, you know, he runs a turfing business, so he's got all this asphalt and heavy machinery that you don't want to Slide into poles.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But then also like a field that we could ride in and whatever. Like, you know, we would always be hanging out there. Like just. I just remember spending hours. It would be like a Friday night at like 2 in the morning. We're not even. Like, we didn't even drink at that time or nothing. But we would just be hanging out. Snowstorm in your dad's shop. You know, it's. It's a used. Actual used shop. So it's dirty and we're hanging out and. And we did not care one bit. I mean, we lose tools.

[D]

Losing his tools.

[A]

Gas on the floor.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

We were just. Yeah. He provided a hangout spot for us, which I think. And also had like, space for us to almost come up with these crazy ideas just out of boredom.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

That then slowly grew with us and. And we, you know, went from. And I mean, if you go back, you'll. You'll see there's tons of videos of us running around Dave's shop. Just whatever. And. God, we'd be misplacing tools. Yeah.

[A]

Where's this? I'd be like, it's in Ryan's dc.

[C]

It's pretty nice of him to let us dumb asses hang out there and slide around and. I mean, you could hit a tractor or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who knows, you know?

[D]

Oh, that's why he bought us dinner the other day. Yeah. You know, we already owe him. Everything was one more dinner.

[C]

Yeah. But, yeah, so, I mean, that was pretty cool.

[E]

We couldn't have been here without everything that has happened in your life, good or bad in our lives, good or bad. Could have never ended up right here laughing without it.

[C]

So.

[E]

Thank God it all happened. I love you boys.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, it takes no matter what you did, whether who you are, there's like so many factors that can be involved in how something happened, whether they were a positive reinforcing factor or a negative factor. Like, there's so many ways that, like, it doesn't just happen by one person. You know, it takes. It takes a team and. Or like a combination of certain events and different people that, you know, and. And like, this wouldn't have been possible without, obviously everyone in this room. And I mean plenty of more dude, whether from, you know, Randy or your dad or, you know, just Tom at the cormorant store. It was like there's just always been so many people that were cool to us.

[D]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

Tom's actually came in clutch, so we're building our shop right now. And we've been just basically filming out of his. I got booted from my dad's, bro.

[C]

He finally had enough.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

He's like. I'm like, you ready for round two? Starting a new channel up. He goes, you're out of here.

[C]

Really?

[B]

No, I'm not, actually. But Tom's actually fun to film with, you know?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It makes it easier because I can just leave kind of projects going.

[C]

Tom's a cool guy. He's into the same. Same stuff.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He likes cars, dirt. He likes basically anything that's fun.

[B]

Yeah, dude, it's so funny. So, like, I was building my banshee, and then, like, Tom heard it, and he just went and bought one, and then for one race and sold it, you know, like, he's heavily influenced, too.

[A]

He's still a kid.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

There you go. Tom's another example.

[D]

You can.

[B]

Thanks, Tom.

[C]

Kid at art.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So what are you doing with that shop I saw on your video? Or just, like, Instagram, like, you got, like, some. Are you building that out right now? It looked like there was some kind of, like, structure being.

[B]

So basically doing. I'm trying to get out of the. The chicken coop.

[D]

Oh, man.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Dave's old garage.

[A]

Yeah, the coop.

[B]

So the studio or whatever. So basically, we're, like, warehousing everything. Everything out of there, and we've just, like, so outgrown it, you know, Everything's just cluttered and crammed, and so basically we kind of building the front half into just, like, you know, like, kitchen area, and then there'll be a shower and stuff like that, and then, like, offices upstairs, and then a little shop area. And then we're just gonna basically build, like, a shipping warehouse. It's basically. You took this whole building, went like that and just kind of smushed it down, you know?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And. But yeah, it'll just be so much easier to work out of because then we're just straight across the road from the field or wherever we're gonna film, you know.

[D]

You guys are still overtaking Tom's tools and stuff?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

It's so funny. I'll be, like, needing something like, hey, Tom, you got a saw over there?

[E]

And I was.

[A]

I let myself in.

[E]

Yeah. Congrats on that.

[B]

That it.

[E]

Nothing better than getting a space that you feel like you can expand in, you know?

[B]

Absolutely, dude. That was, like, a good feeling. It was cool, you know, like, it's been such a grind of ups and downs and finally, like, getting a building. And like, we had so many, like, rental shops and stuff. It's like we're paying all this money to nothing, you know? Yeah. You know, whether it's storage or my dad's studio or wherever. And then like, now we just have a place of our own and, like, can't get kicked out, you know?

[C]

Exactly. And you can do whatever you want with it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's a major play. I mean, I don't have to tell. Tell any of us sitting here, but like, for anyone back home, I mean, invest in yourself, you know, big time.

[B]

Like, it's. It's huge. And obviously it's a big move, but, like, it's needed and it'll help. And the content to come out of that, it's going to be incredible. Yeah.

[D]

And I mean, if you, like, the.

[C]

Thing is too, is like, you outgrow that building, you go and build a new one or buy a new one, you can sell that. Like, it just. It's only right.

[B]

The money just didn't go nowhere.

[C]

Exactly. It's not like renting where it's out the door.

[D]

Yeah, well, maybe one day we'll get our own Seaboise bums line.

[B]

Dude, I can't believe you said that. I was trying, but there was not enough time. I was gonna literally make like a crossover one and give you guys your each individual personalized shades. And one said like, whatever, whoever's nickname would be. So it'd be like big wrench. I was gonna put Howie on yours.

[C]

Dude.

[A]

Okay, this is from a bit. Yeah.

[C]

Is.

[B]

Is a crazy long backstory, but we honestly still do it to this day. And like, I have to. Sometimes I'll like, text CJ or whatever, but, like, like, I convince the people I knew Howie Mandel and I'm just like, I'll text him right now and then he'll like, call me. And I got the dealer no deal picture and it just says Howie Mandel.

[A]

And he'll be like, so.

[B]

And I'll be like, yeah, whatever, but.

[A]

What?

[C]

You know how. Yeah, but it's funny.

[A]

It was. It was still naming my phone.

[E]

Love it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you.

[D]

Do you feel bad about blowing up that firework directly behind Ryan?

[C]

What?

[D]

And almost losing his.

[B]

Dude, I think about that.

[A]

I think about that more than one. I actually think about a lot of things that I did.

[B]

And like that. That right there is a prime example where. Where I was like, gotta get some content, dude.

[D]

That was one of the most savage things.

[C]

Yeah, that thing was loud.

[A]

Yeah, dude. And we're like, Ryan's hearing sacrifice something.

[C]

That he can never get. Get back.

[A]

Yeah. And like, oh, I. I Honestly, I, I, I, I really do feel bad now. At the time when Ryan was, like, ready to deck me, I'm just like, dude, it was funny, you know, like, don't get so mad. And now I'm just like, that was so dumb.

[C]

Ryan's hearing is easily the worst. I mean, I'm, I'm not. We. None of us really have that great a hearing anymore, but Ryan's is easily the worst.

[E]

And you guys keep telling me that. And I go win. And they go, we always try talking to you, and you don't.

[C]

You don't hear us.

[D]

Yeah, you don't talk back.

[C]

I know. Better.

[A]

Send Mike down.

[C]

It was in the other pocket.

[A]

No, it's between my legs. Oh, yeah.

[E]

But I literally, I just don't even hear them.

[D]

Jake, one of the last memories I have of you, a part of the group before you left was. It was March of 2020. Covid happened, right?

[C]

Dude.

[D]

So the whole world is getting shut down, and we're in cormorant, isolated.

[C]

We're like, we're going to hit us.

[D]

What do we have to worry about?

[C]

We're in Cormorant.

[D]

Fargo news. Uber driver gets covet. First sighting in North Dakota. Fargo, man.

[C]

If you have been.

[D]

If you have written with this guy beyond lockdown, Jake is like, oh, God.

[C]

I got a call from him.

[D]

I rode with that guy. Uber called. Yeah, we saw that you rode with the first breakout of North Dakota this last weekend. And Jake's like, oh, shit. Because we were like, yeah, let's just hang out in Cormorant. We'll be fine. Well, Jake was chasing a chick. Gets an Uber.

[A]

Girls are getting trouble, kids.

[D]

So Jake gets this call as we're all hanging out in, like, a circle together.

[C]

Been hanging out for a couple days.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he, he's like, I think it was on speaker. And they say it on speaker and we all just look at each other and we just start back, and there was a door that closed, like, the main shop area, and it had a window in it. And we just all back up through the door. Shut the door. I'm pretty sure C.J. already had, like, bleach ready.

[C]

Sanitize everything. You didn't know what, how bad it could have been. Which I'm not saying it couldn't have been bad. Whatever. We're not going to get into that. But we don't want this. Some hand sanit, like, wiping everything and the. And then we're looking through the window.

[D]

Typing mom messages on a piece of paper and we just say, you gotta go home, Jake.

[C]

Jake had to go isolate for what you had to or what?

[D]

Quarantine.

[A]

I will never forget. I was just like.

[C]

I felt like everyone else was freaking out.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, the. The homie that. That got it, you know, like, you're infected. I meant, like, yeah. Like, I got the thing and I just remember CJ looking through the door, cracks it and goes, sorry, bro, you gotta go. I had to go home for, like, two weeks, so I'm like, like, not sick. Playing way too much Xbox, Got nothing to do. I'm like, can I just come hang out?

[B]

And they're like, sorry, dude.

[A]

Probably should take precaution, you know, we don't want to get everyone else sick. And I'm just like, miss.

[C]

We were killing off the.

[D]

The. The two weeks.

[C]

He came back at the end of the two weeks. But, yeah, that was such different times. It's almost like you forget that any of that ever happened. I kind of forgot about it.

[B]

Yeah. Dude, there's endless and countless memories that are probably, like, forgotten. That's, like, just hilarious. Oh, good Lord, Ryan.

[A]

Let's not bring up memories like that.

[E]

I can't show the world, but.

[C]

Oh, whoa, that's back in the other one.

[E]

Yeah, it's in the old shop. I'm looking. I was looking for a video of Jake on the other side of the door and us on the other side, but I can't find it, so.

[B]

Dude, it is never good to live in the past, but I do love going down memory lane. Sometimes it is.

[C]

You kind of got to rekindle those memories.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Because otherwise you'll forget about them. And I honestly am worried, at least, speaking for myself, I oftentimes forget so much. Like, I don't even remember what we did last week because I'm so focused on doing whatever we're doing now. We're moving at a million miles an hour that, you know, I hear these old guys talking about, oh, yeah, I remember when we did this, and we went down to this street and then they were sitting here, and you got that and you remember that. Yeah. And I'm like, holy frick. I hope I'll remember these things, you know? So it's good that we re. We bring them up. Yeah.

[E]

I like.

[D]

It's funny, you know, one time we were out to eat at our favorite place called Zorbas, and they have these drinks that are like liquor. Half Red Bull, like a full Red.

[C]

Bull can jet fuel.

[D]

And Jake. Jake took it upon himself for some reason to what drink? 4.

[C]

He drank. You tried to drink two in under a minute, and then you failed, so you went and got two more and tried to drink them in under a minute.

[B]

I have the video. There is six total, and I don't. I think that would have been the tipping point. And then you got CJ coming around the corner with 12 Yaga, and I.

[C]

Drink 10 of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Between the two of us, it was the.

[D]

Easily the most rambunctious I've ever seen a human being. I've never seen a human act the way that you acted. So we get Jake back to the shop, our old shop at the time, and. And ryan had his F150, and Jake was so rambunctious, we had to just lock him in the back tailgate of the. Of the F150 to just look at each other, go, what do we do with this guy? Right now? We're, like, figuring out the options. Like, do we bring him home? Do we let him stay in the box? Do we put him to bed upstairs? And we're just like, what do we do? Meanwhile, he's.

[C]

I just remember you eating the hundred bucks.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So we let him out, and it was like. It was like if you had a raccoon or a. Or a grizzly bear in. In a cage, and you let him out and he just went apeshit. But you gave The Grizzly Bear 14 Red Bulls of that video.

[A]

I'm running around.

[D]

He's smashing the plastic chairs. He's throwing the chairs at the wall. You're laying on your Mustang.

[C]

No, it wasn't my iPad. I think it was Ken's.

[F]

I just.

[C]

Or Cody's. It was Cody's iPad.

[A]

Yeah, because the.

[B]

The.

[A]

That day. That was the day that we got the big Seaboy sign and I got my Mustang. I was jacked. And you guys remember I, like, broke.

[B]

My wrist or hand. I showed up the next day, and you're like, what happened? I was still in the same clothes. Had to be work, 5am for my dad. All that.

[E]

My gosh, that is one of my favorite memories.

[D]

I have the time, dude, when. Whenever somebody orders a trash can at Zorbas, I just think of you.

[B]

I honestly hadn't been back to there. I. I literally probably hadn't had a trash can since then until, like, last weekend, Cody put one down in front of me, and I was just like, holy. I don't want to go there again.

[D]

Are you more controlled now?

[B]

I'll say, like, 100% for sure. But, like, obviously there's, like, A difference. Like, if we're having a bunch of fun and everyone's rallying, like, like, I'm still me, dude. Like, I still want to have a ton of fun. But like, like, if someone's out partying on a Wednesday and like, I got stuff to do. Like, no, I'm gonna stay home. Like, I got, I got, I got stuff to get done. You know where before, like, if I'd work at 5am for my dad and like we were party until 3, I was party until 3 and I was making it to work at 5, you know, like, and. But it's like, it obviously isn't feasible and you have way different energy then. But yeah, I will say because for like the longest time I did think I had like, you know, like a drinking problem or whatever and I quit. And like, it wasn't that. But I don't know, I definitely say I'm definitely more controlled now and can like kind of throttle back. But yeah, before it was like all or nothing, but. What do you mean? We were 19, 20, 21, having a blast.

[C]

Yeah, we were partying like rock stars.

[B]

Yeah. Did you kidding me? You give me 850 horsepower Mustang and a bunch of Red Bulls. What am I gonna do?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Dude. Dude, when you bought your C6 Corvette and you were 16, baby, it's that.

[C]

Turfing money right there.

[D]

That was crazy.

[A]

That was like. I think that was the start.

[C]

Pop up a picture.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I got one.

[D]

Just imagine a 16 year old kid that should not even be driving a Ford Focus for his recklessness and just overall decision making, and then put him in a Corvette, which was like, in our eyes at the time was like the craziest car we've got. And boy, did we find out how fast he was.

[C]

I think it's still the fastest I've ever gone in a car. 160 miles an hour.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Dude, that was dumb. First thing I did when I got the car, I came to this, I came to this shop, picked up up.

[B]

Ryan, and I'm like, let's see how.

[A]

Fast it goes and we loop it like right out here, bro. Because we were used to driving cars.

[E]

That when you were gonna drive them aggressively, you turn traction control off.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, you could always do that.

[C]

Yeah, you were like, this will slow us down.

[D]

No, we, you, we'd be driving right, and we'd be driving normal. And then you see Jake's hand just slip forward and go trash the control off. Look over both of them. Look, you look at, make eye contact. And Jake goes, you ready, bro?

[C]

And then after every poll, your dad would call. What you doing? Oh, nothing, just driving. You driving? Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can hear you all the way across.

[A]

Well, dude, so that was the thing. So obviously I had to be on my dad's insurance and everything. And so, like, the rule was, like.

[B]

I could get it be on his insurance if he's allowed to put like a track in it, right? So it shows my speed and everything, right. So like, anytime I'd get on it.

[A]

It would just be like totally recorded.

[B]

And I knew the phone call was coming after, but I think one of my favorite memories in that car is when I was with you and I thought I messed it up. We were driving to your dad's house and your dad was going to take a look at it and something with like the oil pressure was going wrong, so we were going to like limp it there.

[A]

And I CJ's like, just take it easy, be nice. And we're just watt throttle everywhere. And he's like, you're nuke this thing, bro.

[C]

Jake had no engine remorse or I don't even know what it is. If you have any sympathy or even like, no, you were a car sociopath. Yeah. Touch to like, this vehicle is on its last leg. You don't have any touch that. You're like, let's keep riding it hard.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[D]

You were driving your mom's out back. Yeah, I blew it up. You blew it up.

[A]

My favorite parking lot of the school.

[E]

My favorite features.

[D]

Oh, daily driver.

[C]

Yeah. Just ruined her car. No car drive.

[B]

I wish I had another one.

[A]

I had to put a new motor into that car and then we ended up just ruining it anyways.

[E]

But the funny thing was is the reason you got that Corvette is you wrecked your first car, which was a Jeep Grand Cherokee. You rolled it right in front of me. Going back to like where you maybe used to be even slightly more or much more unpredictable. You would just like go into wild man drift mode. And so you right in front of me started drifting and then just dipped off into the ditch and rolled on the roof right in front of me.

[B]

Dude, I will never forget that because it was like New Year's Eve. It was super cold. It was negative 20. I'm in shorts, flip flops, and I'm ended up in the trunk, no seatbelt on. My. My story to my parents is I was plugging in my phone, lost control, but I didn't tell them until they found it. So, like the Jeep was rolled. I go to the Shop, get a skid steer. I'm mad.

[A]

I stick the forks through the side of the door.

[D]

Yeah, the jeep was fine. Yeah, like it was a little dented up. And then you totaled him.

[A]

I had to bring it back and.

[B]

So I set it in the shop and my dad calls me in the morning with a panic. He goes, where are you? Are you okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm in bed.

[D]

What's up?

[B]

Totally forgot I rolled my Jeep. And he's like, looking at your Jeep, I'm like, oh yeah, I hit some ice last night.

[A]

I was plugging in my phone. He's like, what, at 90? Yeah, dude, the hood's just crushed in. There's four coals through the side of the door.

[E]

Oh man, that was so funny. Yeah, I remember there was a point when you were trying to flip it over nicely and we weren't using like chains or any type of logic. We just used the bucket. And after a few missed ones, you just like whoop, flip the thing over and just totaled it.

[B]

I will say that's one thing that I'm kind of sad about as I get older, but it saved me a ton of money. Is like when something breaks, I go fix it instead of just.

[E]

Instead of totally.

[B]

Instead of just broad on it, you know, which I mean.

[D]

Yeah, we should.

[C]

Normal person would.

[D]

Yeah, dude, we should have you do it like a little, like a little one on one session with our buddy Evan.

[A]

Have you haven't figured that out yet?

[D]

Drive it into the ground, Jake. When I think about our early YouTube videos and what made them so special. It was the group camaraderie and everyone just having a good time. And your compulsive buying and your compulsive acts.

[F]

Every.

[D]

Everything that you did very impulsively where it would. Half of it would happen and then the camera would capture the other half because it was happening no matter what.

[B]

Right?

[D]

But like, you going to buy the shifter cart. So compulsive. And C.J. was just like, no, no, no, let.

[A]

Me come, let me come, let me come.

[D]

And you were damn near down the driveway before he could jump in the back of the.

[C]

You almost tried to let me film the buying of the. The cart.

[B]

I do remember.

[C]

Think about that. Like, like that vid was kind of like a Kickstarter.

[B]

It was a staple, dude.

[C]

You know, like it gave us that boost. But yeah, I almost. Almost. Yeah. Because everything had to be a surprise with you. Still does.

[D]

Still.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, everything's gotta be a surprise. I'm like, well, just let me in on the surprise. I'm trying to film a first video, dude.

[B]

The hard part is now so, like. Like being on my own as I'm building something, I'm like, well, the only people I'm going to surprise is the. The audience.

[A]

So, yeah, I probably should show the process, you know, a couple videos. You know, I'm like, I can't. Can't hide any secrets because it's me and Cody.

[E]

You ever play pranks on Cody?

[B]

What, do you got one in mind, or did I do something? I don't know if I know the.

[C]

Key beer prank, dude. And Cody drank it.

[A]

He.

[C]

He didn't know it was pee in there.

[B]

Dude, we can talk about this. So we were. We were, you know, underage cribs, drinking root beers by a fire, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And as we do.

[C]

Yeah, we'd burn stuff.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

And anyways, Cody was like, I can beat you in a chugging contest. I'm like, no, you can. I'm like, all right, let's do it. So I. He's, like, talking to C.J. because I told C.J. what I'm doing, and I take this bottle, pour it out, and I just fill it up, you know, with pissed.

[A]

Cody beat me by a mile, but he drank every last drop.

[C]

It was pee.

[A]

He knows. He just starts yakking everywhere.

[C]

There was some questionable stuff back in those early videos between Cody drinking your pee, Ben putting his face into Ken's ass.

[D]

You know, I'm not in the hot tub.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

The whole video with the sex doll. Yeah. I don't even know if we can say Tina. But, you know, one thing about Jake, though, that I've always respected is you really know how to go into a deal and kick a guy in the nuts. You know?

[A]

What kind of deal?

[D]

You know, like that one time that we went and bought that four wheeler, the kid.

[A]

You guys had me so wound up, I literally almost totaled our pick.

[D]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

You were.

[D]

You were stopping at green lights, driving through red lights.

[C]

You were. You were so disheveled.

[A]

I was just dist.

[B]

You guys were nuts.

[C]

You got to know the backstory. Okay, so.

[D]

So we're looking for a four wheeler to buy, and this. This can am pops up a couple. You got to show the story in before that, though.

[C]

So Jake was always buying stuff because he had excess money because he worked the turfing job and would get paid more money than the rest. Why is he 25, paid $10 an hour?

[D]

He was probably making.

[C]

Making 20. And yes, he was working more.

[D]

But he's always buying.

[C]

He was buying stuff.

[D]

And he'd always be like, stuff?

[C]

Yep. Kick that guy in the nuts.

[D]

Got it for a deal.

[C]

That was always the thing, like whether it was the four wheeler snowmobile. He kicked somebody in the nuts and got a hell of a deal. And we're always like, man, he is so good at getting deals. It was time to go and pick up these four wheelers or one of these one, one quad off of Facebook marketplace. And we were like, jake, you got to come with because you got to kick this guy. You know what you're doing.

[D]

And like, dude, we're going to film the process.

[C]

You take the reins.

[D]

So we get into this deal, right? And we're just like following. We're just stepping camera and we're like, let the master work. Let him cook. Let him cook, right? And Jake walks in there, you know, fresh off us, hyping him up, right? And we're like, God, I'm excited to see the process.

[C]

We're going to finally see him kick someone.

[D]

We show up. Jake is like, looking at this thing, literally, like kicking the tires, walking around, and he's like.

[C]

He takes his finger out, puts it in the exhaust.

[D]

And. And we're watching and we're like, holy. So this is the process. No. No wonder why he gets the deals. He's picking this thing apart and he's asking all these questions. He's like, how are the rings?

[C]

These guys aren't buying it for a second.

[D]

They're just like, filter.

[C]

This guy an idiot.

[D]

The filter looks a little oiled.

[C]

He's smelling it.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah. This right? And he finally goes, all right, man wanted five grand for it. Let's. Let's do 35. He's like, Nah, five. Yeah.

[C]

The guys are not buying for a second. They're just looking at you. It became awkward. Like, I think we stepped. And we're like, all right, this is just kidding awkward. Jake taking the four grand.

[D]

Four grand, that's the best I can do. And he's like, well, I mean, five grand. I'm selling it for five grand. And finally Jake's just like, dude, all right, fine. No, he did not get a deal. Five grand, man. And we're standing there at this point and we went in like. And then it just ended like this.

[C]

We load that thing up, hop in the car, and we are all just hollering. So we kept going.

[D]

What did it smell like?

[A]

Almost like hit a car, stopped at every green light, pulled into. What are we going? Red Lobster and you guys Were like, you going to try and get a.

[C]

Deal, dude, we were in tears. We were in tears, dude.

[D]

We're sitting at Red Lobster crying. Thank God it was only us and the subs that were next, man. What is going on with these guys?

[B]

Oh my God.

[D]

Oh, dude. Yeah, so when I saw you driving to Texas or flying to Texas to drive this car back, I was like, man, that poor Texan, dude. He probably got kicked in the nuts, dude.

[C]

God.

[A]

I, I, I can make some deals, boys, but we roll deep. It's hard.

[E]

Yeah, when you roll deep with a camera, bro.

[A]

You got a camera rolling deep. He's, he's got something to prove too.

[C]

That was funny.

[D]

So funny, bro.

[B]

That is so funny, dude. I think one thing, this, this is just kind of going back to the college thing. But I think one thing I, I missed and totally love is all the stuff that happened that is just like total viral worthy that didn't get caught on camera. Such as, like swapping the projector and we were swiping Tinder. Like I found that thing, put it on tick tock and it like instantly hit 4 mil.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. And I don't know, just like the rambunctiousness that we all did in college was just kind of, it was a milestone for sure.

[C]

Everything was fresh and new. You had so much energy going into filming, you know, it was just like you wanted to, you just.

[A]

Every time we did something with something.

[C]

Exciting, it was a tornado.

[D]

Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday, actually. I don't even remember. I don't think we were filming this, but remember when we were at Sane's shop with all the snowmobiles and you thought it'd be a good idea to grab a fire extinguisher off the wall, spray it, oh, two of them, two fire extinguishers and spray it everywhere in Sane's shop. Cleared all of us out. And you're standing there.

[A]

Party was over it, dude.

[C]

No.

[B]

So what, Jay came up to me and he's like, hey, if you do.

[A]

It, I'll do it.

[B]

Our buddy Jay. Our buddy Jay. Yeah. Anna Barry, Jay Manaberry. He's like, if you do it, I'll do it. I'm like, well, if you're gonna do it, I have to do it. And so I just grabbed it. Dang think twice. He didn't even pull his pin, dude. I just cleared everyone out. And then G Reg came in with, with me at 7 in the morning. We cleaned his whole shop. I felt pretty bad.

[E]

I think that's the Only time I've ever seen sane Skinner actually even remotely upset.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, those fire extinguishers make a mess. I remember one time you sprayed me right in the face with it, Jake. Yeah, that really, like, takes the saliva.

[B]

Out of you, you know? Now that I'm thinking about it, aren't you guys just, like, a little happier that I'm, like, more mature and just.

[A]

Don'T do like that anymore? Like, Ryan's hearing's better.

[D]

No, the only thing I'm happy about, Jake, is that we don't have you and Evan on the same payroll. Because we would be so ungodly broke, dude. We would be just like, I don't even. I can't even imagine. And it is fun. It is fun to get you to all revved up because you both have, like, the same very impulsive behavior and, like, the no care.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Which is super entertaining, obviously, on the standpoint of, like, content and just being your friend.

[B]

Right?

[D]

But then when you got to cut the check for it at the end of the day, you know, a little bit more now. It hurts.

[B]

Oh, it hurt, dude.

[A]

That's the thing. Like.

[B]

Like, yeah, when I was cutting my.

[A]

Own checks, I'm like, does it really cost that much? Like, oh, it's.

[B]

It's terrible. And no, but it's all.

[D]

It's all for the greater good.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, dude.

[D]

We give Evan a hard time. We gave you. We gave you a hard time for it, but, like, at the end of the day, we don't, you know, we don't care. It's just funny to laugh about.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say it is funny. So, like, we go back to that bike bit where we were jumping the BMX bike into the pond. When I chopped that together, it was like you never left. And it was interesting because I feel like in your videos, you're kind of running them and you're talking to the camera, you're doing the explanation. But then when you came back and we're in our vid, you went right back to that role of, like, you were just this goofball. You were being reckless, this impulsive, funny. You were saying the funny stuff. And, like, not that you don't do that now, but, like, you went back to that. That same character, and it was just like, literally, like nothing ever changed.

[B]

It's funny you say that. And, like, when I first felt that was Justin's bachelor party, like, and, like, the camera came out, like, it just felt like normal, like you could just do what you want. And, you know, the thing Is like when the. When the camera comes out, obviously we are who we are, but you turn it on a little bit, you know, like you're filming, you turn it up and like. Like when there's something funny to be had, you do it.

[D]

Yeah, Right. Cheddar was out that weekend.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

They're always. There is something.

[D]

Behavior.

[C]

There is. Like, it is. I mean, you can probably attest to this when you're not necessarily having to worry about the shot or any of that. And you get to live in that moment and, like, be present and then make the, like, you're like, oh, perfect. I can make a joke here. Whatever. There's like something that almost like, it takes a pressure off that makes you do better on that side.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. When you're not having to, like, worry. And it's. It's kind of cool, too, because, like, it made me.

[C]

You've been on both sides. Yeah.

[B]

It makes me feel for, like, the cameraman to. Okay, just wait. You know, like, no reason of, like, ruining it or whatever, but I don't know, it's fun because, like, I am that person and like, now I have my feet under me and it's just like, it feels so good to, like, be able to come hang out and just do whatever we do, you know, and then, like, be able to have something of, like, my own to, like.

[C]

More of the full package.

[B]

Right, Exactly. And, like, I don't know.

[C]

It's cool.

[B]

But yeah, I will say, when we all get together, freaking hands off, bro.

[A]

Because it's, like, it's so fun.

[B]

It is. We have a blast.

[D]

All right, bro. Well, I think we've been going for almost three hours.

[C]

We did our longest podcast, Crazy Three Hour Mark.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And on.

[D]

Honestly, I feel like we're like, we.

[C]

Could go for another three hours, but.

[D]

Like, the door is always open, you know, you're one of our best friends. We love you. And I'm so glad that, you know, we've rekindled this. Everything that that happened happened for a reason. But we are, you know, back to where you're always welcome over here and I'm so excited to have you in future videos.

[B]

It's going to be so fun.

[D]

Be in your future videos and have you on the podcast because I'm sure people loved you and are stoked for more. So. Yeah.

[B]

And if there was any questions we didn't answer, I guess just throw them below so we know.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. If I was gonna say, if you're not already subscribe to Jake's channel. Jake, sherbrooke on. In on YouTube. Jake Sherbert on Instagram. All that. We'll put it down in the description.

[E]

Mom's eyewear.

[C]

Go check out. Go check out all his stuff. And I think that's it. Yeah.

[E]

See you guys next week.

[C]

Peace. Until next time. Yeah.

[D]

That's a wrap.

[A]

Sweet boys.