TJ Hunt on Quitting YouTube, His Secret Cars, and Paying Over 360k a Year on Car Insurance

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode: TJ Hunt on Quitting YouTube, His Secret Cars, and Paying Over 360k a Year on Car Insurance
Date: April 4, 2023

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the CboysTV crew sits down with automotive YouTuber OG, TJ Hunt, at his Southern California shop for an in-depth conversation. They cover TJ’s journey from hockey player to YouTube entrepreneur, the evolution of car culture content, business strategies for creators, behind-the-scenes insights into car collecting (including cars his audience doesn’t know about), and the staggering logistics of insuring a vast fleet. The discussion also touches on burnout, authenticity, family priorities, taxes, and plenty of laughs about modding cars, group pranks, and the quirks of YouTube life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. YouTube Beginnings & Community Origins

• The Early OG Scene: They reminisce about YouTube’s early days—simpler times when content like “installing an exhaust” could take off and the car scene was tight-knit and new.
  • “Isn't it crazy, like, what the community used to be like back then? Like, it was such a different world. I miss it. Oftentimes it was just different.” (TJ, 00:51)
• CboysTV’s Origin: The Cboys share how they were inspired by TJ and started filming their weekend adventures for lack of car-mod funds, leading to their unique content style and eventual viral video success.
  • “We thought we were viral...we're like 50,000 views... ‘Boys, we made it!’” (03:23)

2. Brand Building & Business Expansion

• From Content to Brand: TJ discusses the evolution from making videos to leveraging his audience for business opportunities: merch (Hunt & Co), StreetHunter, and beyond.
  • Inspiration came from studying rappers and athletes who parlayed fame into business empires.
  • “How can you use that [platform] to build something? I started looking at rappers...Ken Block, Travis Pastrana, Vaughn Gittin…and that’s kind of what birthed StreetHunter.” (TJ, 05:20)
• Business Authenticity & Balance: The group reflects on the importance of staying genuine and not turning your channel into a constant product ad.
  • “You kind always want to, you know, keep your core demographic happy...not just product-wise.” (07:07)
  • Nelk and Logan Paul/PRIME used as examples of creators who diversified but stayed authentic.
• Strategic Risk Taking: TJ and the Cboys share philosophies on dropping out of college to pursue creative careers, and the risks/rewards involved.
  • “YouTube’s now and college is forever. If I fail, I can just go back.” (Christian Guzman/TJ quote, 19:22)

3. Life, Mindset & Burnout

• Vision Boards, Journaling, & Staying Grounded: TJ emphasizes personal development—keeping a vision board, journaling, and writing letters to his future self.
  • “I have like this journal...I have like, 'Congratulations, you just made 20 grand this month'...even still sometimes you're like, 'Alright, I'm not really fulfilled yet.'” (23:14)
• Redefining Success & Family Focus: Achieving all material goals highlighted what truly matters—relationships and health, especially after dealing with his girlfriend Sabrina’s cancer battle.
  • “...all the money in the world, all the cars in the world, like, all the shit. And then, like, one thing happens, and it's like, whoa, none of that matters.” (TJ, 25:17)
• Burnout & “Slave to the Lifestyle”: High achievement comes with sacrifices, endless hustling, and often losing sight of why you started.
  • “The soul is gone out of them...how much of a slave to the game do you need to take to have that?” (TJ, 30:11)

4. YouTube Infrastructure, Scaling & Teams

• Growing Pains: TJ recounts the challenge of letting go and expanding from a solo operation to a team (filmmaker/editor, business teams for his brands, etc).
  • “Up until like literally like eight months ago, I was doing all of it myself. And I had that really tough time, like, letting go.” (59:34)
• Industry Professionalization: Reflections on how YouTube has shifted from DIY to corporate-level productions, with big budgets and production teams.
  • “YouTube broadcast yourself...now it's like YouTube: Corporate rules everything.” (62:28)

5. Cars, Collecting, and Insurance Realities

• Secret Cars & JDM Collections: TJ shares that he owns around 30 cars—including several in Japan his audience doesn’t know about, as both passion and investment.
  • “I have some the channel doesn't know. I have some that the channel...I have a lot overseas, really, that I've been like, just collecting and buying...” (32:59)
• Why Japan?: Discusses the culture, drifting, and keeping cars abroad for driving adventures and investment.
  • “It's the fucking best place in the world.” (TJ on Japan, 33:42)
• Insurance Logistics: Mind-blowing costs—his policies range from $15k–$30k/month to insure his whole fleet, a mix of business and dealer insurance.
  • “Probably a month, anywhere from like...$15k minimum to like $30k a month.” (TJ, 40:13)

6. Car Content, Trends, and Taste

• Modding Missteps: Plenty of laughter about early car “mistakes”—carbon wrap, fake vents, rep parts, and questionable taste, but recognizing everyone starts somewhere.
  • “I feel like every car person goes through like a journey...We all did tail light tints.” (66:23)
• Building for Views vs. Passion: TJ explains his shift to building what he wants rather than what trends say will get views.
  • “I think this is cool. If no one likes it and it doesn't do X amount of views...at least I'm enjoying it.” (57:51)

7. The Future—Creative Longevity & Personal Growth

• Sustainable Legacy: They discuss launching products that outlive their YouTube channels, seeking paths that don’t rely solely on creator identity.
  • “It needs to be something that can live on by itself. Like, we're gonna give it the push, but it's something that...isn't like merch...” (77:51)
• Taxes, Real Estate, and California: TJ is candid about the economics of staying in California, potential plans for property/company structuring, and the constant pull to places like Texas or Florida for financial sanity—but ultimately, friends and family win for now.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Imagine, like, investing in Apple when Steve Jobs is a nobody...That's what I feel like I did.” — TJ Hunt, 01:34
• “There's always like a 10-year-old WhistlinDiesel out there...the platform’s only going to be so big for so long.” — TJ Hunt, 06:10
• “I bought my GTR and I was still living at home…trying to keep all my expenses as low as possible.” — TJ Hunt, 20:13
• “On my vision board, like, I've gotten everything I've ever wanted. And like, even still, sometimes you're like, all right, I'm not really fulfilled yet.” — TJ Hunt, 22:09
• “All the money in the world, all the cars...then one thing happens, and it's like, whoa, none of that matters.” — TJ Hunt, 25:17
• “You got the boat, but you don't have time to drive it or take it out on the lake.” — CboysTV (Ryan, paraphrased), 31:48
• “I have 30 something cars. I drive four of them.” — TJ Hunt, 32:34
• “Probably a month, anywhere from like...$15k minimum to like $30k a month.” — TJ Hunt on insurance, 40:13
• “No one can be a better Sea Boys. No one can be [better] yourself.” — TJ Hunt, 63:42
• “It's embarrassing. When you see them, you're like, 'oh...'” — TJ Hunt on questionable car mods, 70:14
• “If you're happy doing it, that's, like, the number one thing. Happiness, health.” — CboysTV, 70:34

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 00:00–01:40 | Opening, reminiscing about early YouTube and TJ’s inspiration to the Cboys | | 05:20–07:39 | Building business brands off of YouTube success; authenticity conflicts | | 09:59–17:39 | TJ’s personal journey: hockey roots, heartbreak, discovering YouTube | | 17:39–19:22 | The leap: dropping out of nursing school for YouTube, influenced by seeing how others took risks | | 22:09–25:17 | Vision boards, journaling, fulfillment, and personal growth | | 25:17–31:18 | How Sabrina’s cancer shaped TJ’s priorities and the impact on work/family balance | | 32:34–40:13 | TJ’s secret car collection, Japanese car culture, massive insurance costs | | 46:29–48:28 | CboysTV pranks, group creativity, and viral moments | | 57:51–59:05 | TJ building cars for personal passion vs. chasing algorithmic trends | | 59:34–62:01 | Scaling from solo creator to teams; letting go for growth | | 62:28–63:42 | YouTube’s corporate shift and staying unique as a creator | | 66:23–71:09 | Modding culture, taste evolution, and learning from cringe upgrades | | 79:25–80:55 | The future: products that outlast a YouTube career, creative sustainability | | 87:18–91:58 | Tangent on gambling in Vegas; SEMA stories and the reality of fan attention | | 92:31–96:46 | Modern BMWs vs. exotics; car valuation, tax write-offs, and the emotional side of collecting |

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Closing Remarks & Tone

The conversation is open, reflective, and at times irreverent—peppered with insights, real business discussion, self-effacing humor about their mistakes, and the backdrop of genuine friendship and admiration among content creators. The episode closes with mutual appreciation, promises of future collaborations (in Vegas and Japan!), and a sense that whether it’s cars, business, or life, the journey matters as much as the destination.

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For listeners, this episode is both an inspiring look behind the scenes of YouTube stardom and creator business, and a candid exploration of the challenges (and costs) of building a life “wide open.”

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Transcript

[A]

All right, guys, we got a bit of an automotive YouTuber OG on the podcast today.

[B]

A legend.

[A]

Yeah, legend. We've been.

[C]

I'll take the title.

[A]

We've been really excited about this pod, so thanks for having us at your shop.

[C]

Yeah, no, I appreciate you guys coming here. I feel like we've been, like. Like, trying to link up to a certain degree over, like, a few different, like, years.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm so. To have you guys here. There's a lot of guys in the shop are like, are those Sea Boys here? They're all super stoked. So, yeah. I'm honored to be on the cast, guys.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

That's awesome. Yeah, it's. It's funny. It's. It's kind of gone full circle for us because I actually subscribed to you when you had, like, 7,000 subscribers.

[C]

Whoa.

[B]

Yeah. And I think I. I found you off of Evan Shanks.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He gave you a plug. He's like, yeah, this new guy, he's coming up. He's really good. And I went and started watching you and. And then, you know, you just blowing up since.

[C]

Isn't it crazy, like, what the community used to be like back then? Like, it was such a different world.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I miss it. Often times it was just different.

[B]

It was. It was. It was simpler, but also it was just, like. So. I don't know. It was awesome.

[C]

Yeah. And it was all new, too. Yeah.

[A]

It was always, like, the first time, seeing somebody build something from nothing and then watching somebody build a brz, you know, from stock to putting stickers on it to wheels.

[C]

It was back when, like, titles like. Like installing an exhaust but do really well, like sticker bombing of front bumper. When, like, now that, you know, there's so much, like. I guess there's so much different forms of content, so many different people.

[B]

Everyone's. It's all been done now, so you got to really raise the bar.

[C]

Yeah, that's. Some people always ask me, like, how'd you do it? I'm like, honestly, dude, think about it this way. Imagine, like, investing in Apple when Steve Jobs is a nobody. It's like, that's. That's what I feel like I did. Like, I. I was in it at the right time. And it's. It's so hard now. Like, there's.

[B]

There's.

[C]

There's. I mean, you guys did a good job coming up, but you guys had a very interesting angle, which I think, like, really was able to, like, separate you guys and really, like, gave you guys that edge that allowed you guys, to get the success that you guys are like, that you earned. But it's not easy. It's very difficult.

[B]

Now, you want to know what's funny, though, is. So I initially bought a camera, and my plan. I was inspired by you to make car videos. I had a Subaru wrx and I quickly found out I don't have any money left to do mods with it. So I just started carrying around and filming us, and then we kind of just took this. This route with it.

[C]

That's so. I mean, I guess this podcast is about me. But what did. What was like, the first. I'm curious to know, like, what was your guys's moment of like, oh, this is like actually creating somewhat of like a dollar. And it was like, friends were like, okay, like, let's all just do this all of a sudden. It was curious to know that backstory before we really jump in.

[B]

It was the third video, actually. So like I said, I initially bought it to. I was gonna make car videos, but I didn't have anything to film, so I started filming us on the weekends. One day, one of our buddies bought this. It's a shifter cart.

[A]

I don't know if you're familiar.

[B]

Yeah, we were ripping it around and I was just filming it, and we'd made a couple of videos before that, and I just remember my hand shaking. I was like, this is gold. This is gonna be good on YouTube and wouldn't spend, like two weeks editing it and put it up and maybe got like, you know, a little bit of views over time and started making money. And then we were just like, let's keep doing this.

[A]

Yeah, but, dude, it got like 10,000 views, 20,000 views, 30,000 views. And we're like, oh, dude, we are famous. Yeah.

[B]

We thought we were viral.

[A]

We have gone viral. We're like 50,000 views. I remember, like, looking at lunch and seeing it, like, rolling over, like, 50,000. I'm like, boys, we made it. What do we even do with all the success?

[B]

I think it made like a thousand bucks. And then flip that thousand bucks into a new camera, better camera.

[A]

And, you know, just started an LLC because, you know, it's like, are you a personal or business? You got to go from that route. So we had, like, seven best friends at the time. So we just started a seven person llc and we're just like, we're doing it. But then we're like, how do we split the money? Because we made 800 bucks that December.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were like, what do we do with It. And we're like, it. Let's just donate all of it so we don't have to fight over it.

[C]

Damn, that's smart.

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, it was a good start. But, dude, I will. I remember the exact spot I was sitting when C.J. was like, yeah, dude, have you ever heard of the YouTuber TJ Hunt? I was like, no. And he's like, I just subscribed to him. He's got like 8, 000 followers. And I was like, oh, no way. Do you make money on YouTube? I was like, that person asking that question now that we.

[C]

We actually. You don't that much anymore, I guess. I mean, if that was like, back when I had like 8,000 sub, that was like, I think.

[B]

No, it would have been like. Like, it would have been like 2014, maybe 2013.

[C]

Yes, that. I mean, dude, at that time, YouTube was, like, so, like, undiscovered. It was like, making money from that was such a foreign concept. Like, social media was nowhere near it was today. Yeah. So, yeah, it's. Even when I started making money, I was like, when is it gonna stop? Like, when it started adding up every month and it just, like, starts climbing. It's a very trippy.

[B]

You always have that in the back of your head.

[C]

You're.

[B]

You're worried about it.

[A]

But yeah, I think you've done such a good job, though, at creating a brand that's not TJ Hunt, the hunting company and your merchandise. And then I remember CJ being like, yeah, dude, he's got a merchandise, the hunting company. And that's how he, like, makes his money. And I was like. I was like, oh, my God, I never even thought of that you could start a brand and then promote it on YouTube. And now everyone's got it.

[C]

But it's such a rabbit hole now. I mean, you guys understand at this point, but, like, it quickly, like, came from, okay, like, I'm making, like, X amount of money from videos, and I have this audience and there's, you know, it like, started to cloak when I started getting people, like, reach out for me to, like, promote, like, their products, whatever. And I'm like, why does everyone keep asking me to promote certain. And then realizing, okay, you have a demographic that's valuable. And then learning how to like. And then I got really involved. I got really interested in, like, the business side, and how can you use that platform or that audience or that demographic that. How can you use that to, like, build something or. And I started, like, looking, like, back at, like, like rappers who Got super, super popular and like what did they do with their fame in like rap culture and how did they use that to branch out to start like anything. And it's very common with like sports players, like rappers and then you look in like our field of like motorsport and then it's Ken Block, Travis Pastrana, Von Gitton and I like started studying and then that's when like hunting company came and like learned about investing and learned about. That's kind of what like Birth Street Hunter and, and it was like trying to build something larger because you know, videos are, are great but it's, it's always tough when there's, I always like say there's. There's always like a 10 year old whistling Diesel out there and you. Every year goes on, he gets a little older and then there's another 10 year old and there's another 10 year old. Then like platforms only going to be so big for so long. So like what can you do to like make your, I don't know, legacy there? Like what, how can you like invest farther than just like videos?

[A]

For sure. Yeah, we talk about that all the time of how do we create a product that will outlive, you know, just our YouTube channel.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or how do you not lose the authenticity of. Authenticity of what you're doing right now and then make it seem like dude, I'm just making videos to promote this or like something like that which at the end of the day people see through that and you don't want, you don't want that to be. And you kind always want to, you know, keep your core demographic happy with, you know, what you're producing. Not just product wise.

[C]

Yeah. Nelk's a really good example of that.

[A]

Yeah, they kill it at that. And they've managed to, you know, create different revenues from Happy dad to Merch. But then their podcast and then they still make their main channel videos.

[C]

Yeah, I think when, when people like really look at certain channels and they kind of see how they're structured like on a business like perspective. It's like kind of the first time they say it they're like oh like it's not like think about it like for the most part every large creator or creation team will have like a main of like some towards some sort of like clothing or some sort of like merchandising and then they have a spin off or not even spin off but like another branch that's like a consumable to a certain degree, whether it's food, whether it's like Street Hunter, like, there's usually a main. And then like after that, a couple years, once they learn how that flows, they create a second that like, okay, what do I love to do? That's like somewhat within my demographic, obviously. Nelk partying and drinking, it goes hand in hand. But like, again, Logan, Paul Maverick, then started prime. KSI, Same thing. Then started prime. And I just, I became very obsessed with like figuring out what that formula was and how they were doing it and why they were doing it. And then I was like. And then like, you fall in love with it and then it kind of becomes again, like, authenticity is very important. If you're just like shoving messaging and branding and people's faces and like losing out on what you're doing. The. Yeah, there's a very fine balance to that, but it's, it's, It's a deep hole.

[D]

I feel like the personality trait of someone who wants to create and grow a YouTube channel also, it transfers into business really well. Like, they have the same. I want to grow businesses, I want to start other projects. Because you have to be. To create a YouTube channel and keep it going.

[B]

Yeah. To be successful, I think you got to have the knack.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. Well, you do now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Nowadays, to be. To stay competitive or to really like outlive that into like.

[B]

Right.

[C]

There's like making a living and then there's like, you know, how do you like, make a serious operation? And at that point, like, you know, you could transform, do whatever you want because I mean, whatever capital is there and have fun with it.

[B]

You've been around for a long time. What is it? Almost? Has it been a decade or almost?

[C]

Not yet. Not yet. Almost, though. Well, it's got to be close.

[B]

Gotta be.

[C]

I was gonna say I was uploading videos in 2013, I think. Think. But that channel is like, I've had that channel since middle school, so there's some like, older on there. But since I like really started. I don't know. 2014 is so close to 10 years.

[B]

So do you mind going back a little bit and kind of just telling us how you got your start? Yeah. Cuz you got a pretty interesting story, if I remember correctly, as to.

[C]

Yeah, it's, you know, getting going. Yeah. So it. So I played competitive hockey till I was nice.

[B]

I did too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Okay. Yeah. So I played till I was 19. Stopped at like Junior A. And so like, we were always on the road, traveling. We sold AAA pretty much from like squirts all the way to midgets. And then Junior A. So always on the road, always traveling.

[B]

How is hockey in California? Sorry.

[C]

Little super competitive.

[B]

Really?

[A]

That's.

[B]

No offense, but surprising to me. It doesn't seem like.

[C]

So whenever we would go to nationals or we would do like junior Olympics, like usually, like the good states to watch out for would be like Michigan and like.

[B]

You never played Minnesota?

[C]

Not that I remember. Dude, there's a lot of good teams out of Minnesota. I mean, that's culture.

[B]

You ever seen the Minnesota State hockey tournament for high school?

[C]

I did. And I recently saw a tick tock of like them, like jumping on the ice after. I think it was.

[B]

It's.

[C]

Yeah, it was nutty.

[B]

I mean, they fill up.

[C]

Yes. A way different culture than here, but it's very competitive here. And we have like.

[B]

I believe you.

[C]

We have like the Duck select team. La King select, obviously the goals. You have the AHL team, which is the farm team for the Anaheim Ducks. Very, very competitive here. Huge hockey state.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's cool.

[C]

Surprising. Yeah, I know. People like or what?

[B]

Gotta be nice though. You wear your shorts to the rink.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, shorts and flops. And that's about it.

[A]

So it's gonna be the draw to it too. It's like so different. You gotta be like, man, that sounds exciting to try. Like, yeah, in Minnesota it's like. No, you just grow up.

[C]

There.

[B]

No outdoor hockey here though.

[C]

No. Well, every once in a while.

[B]

Rollerblades.

[C]

Yeah, with rollerblade team. So like our high school didn't have an ice hockey team, but we had a roller hockey team. Really? Yeah.

[B]

That's so weird to me.

[D]

It is weird.

[C]

So like there. I don't know of any high school teams here. Maybe like the super rich private schools that are like 50 grand a year here to go to, like, might have one. But roller hockey is. Is what. Is what's here. But dude, there's a bunch of ice rinks here. There's just in our area, just from here, within like 30 minutes, there's like maybe five different ranks.

[A]

So you're playing hockey.

[C]

So playing hockey. And when we were growing up, like through that, like, we could never like go have fun. We were always stuck in the hotel room. Like maybe the hotels they gave us like the conference room. We could all just around in there. So like from a very early on, I started watching YouTube in middle school and then I got a MacBook and we would just make like funny YouTube videos, like with the team. Like just stupid shit. Which a lot of stuff I've had to take him down because a lot of my Teammates and are all in the NHL now, and they're like, hey, really my name for prospecting? Like, it's our videos. Can you please remove them?

[B]

Really cool.

[C]

Yeah. So like Demco, the starter for Canucks.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Played with Demco Life.

[A]

Trey.

[C]

There's Tyler Moy.

[B]

Wow. You had to. Been on a really good team then.

[C]

I mean, you got guys going. We all like. I thought I was playing, so that's part of the story. Like, I thought I was going to the NHL 100%, like without a question. That's where we were headed. And I. I'll get to it. But I had so many concussions I couldn't put on weight. I was super fast. I could like make plays, but I was just. I was getting Rock Jr. A. I got into like two fights and I was like, don't have the size for this. But regardless, started making videos when I was really young. So I learned how to like edit and like on a very early age. So basic platform. And then I've always like, loved cars when I was younger, like exotics and stuff. Cuz San Diego, a bunch of exotics, bunch of money here. So like I would go down to like the exotic dealerships and just like over them. Yeah, this like Merciers, Diablos, Vipers, shit like that. Then when I like got to be 16, was super stoked on getting licensed, got a car immediately started like do basic like taillight tints, plasti dip. You know, the game.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Start. Yeah. And then didn't. Normally you never made YouTube videos, but was like super involved in like the online forums. Are you guys old enough?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I used to always try to figure out wheel specs or like, you know.

[C]

Just like toxicity on the Internet. Before YouTube.

[B]

Yeah. I'd get reamed, but luckily there was no like really connection. Like I just had like a.

[C]

There wasn't you.

[B]

It was like a game or take like, it wasn't even my name. So I just. I'd like ask a stupid question.

[C]

Go to General.

[B]

I just would scroll. I like that's. I swear I learned so much on the forums though.

[C]

Same. So that's why I learned like all my basic. So long story short, that's where I kind of got my information. And then after high school, I was with a girl that I was with for like four or five years and then she broke up with me like freshman year of college or something like that. And like, world upside down. This is like the typical story. Oh, I'm going to marry this girl. Like I've known Her whole family. Like, my. My life's mapped out. And I was, like, gutted. Was, like, super depressed. Like, I'm already, like a skinny guy, lost a bunch of weight. My friend's like, hey, dude, like, this is like six months now, and, like, we're getting a little bit concerned here. And then kind of like transformed that and started to, like, learn about, like, self help, self improvement, and like, certain motivational talkers that kind of help, like, reroute your mindset and, like, law of attraction and that route that's like what.

[A]

I like, grasp to frequencies and everything.

[D]

Like.

[C]

Yeah, like, just kind of like the power of, like, your mind and, like, understanding, you know, that type of. So from that point was like, I'm gonna start new shit. I, like, was going. I would go to, like, a pottery class and just try anything. Started surfing. Started, like, sk. More like, would you like, the most random ass just, like, do something? Like, it was bad.

[A]

Imagine if you would have became who you are today, but through pottery. The goat of pottery.

[C]

Have you seen those, like, accounts on Tick Tock where it's like, these, like, dudes and chicks just, like, hand.

[A]

Yeah, it's amazing. I go down the rabbit holes all the time.

[C]

That's like, me. And I'm all buff, oiled up with just the.

[D]

With just the apron on.

[C]

Could have been me.

[A]

Could have been.

[C]

Yeah. So started to, like, kind of get my feet moving a little bit and then found YouTube again and started watching, like, couples YouTube, like, just like OG YouTube, but, like bf versus gf.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jesse.

[C]

Jesse Gina. Like, that type of where they're like, daily. And this, like, daily uploading was, like, the thing. And then it was like, watching couples and you're like, oh, I'm like a part of them. I miss that type of, like, like, self, like, loathing type. Then I was like, like, I like cars. I like YouTube. I know how to edit, like, what's on the car world. And at that point, it was just Evan Shanks, that dude in blue, Dr. M3 super speeders, Rob. And I was like, kind of it. Like, that was it. And it was all just them. When you would be in the driver's seat and you have a camera filming you.

[B]

Just a GoPro.

[C]

Yep. And you're just talking or car review.

[B]

Hardly even any cuts.

[C]

No. Yeah, yeah. Very, like, basic. And that was just, like, the culture at that time. And it was never, like, about the person. It was about. Only about them hosting what they're talking about, like, period. That was it. So then I started filming some like, tried to copy what they were doing. Car reviews, this and that. And then I was like, oh, okay, like, that's cool, but, like, I don't have any money. Let me start filming me and my friends, similar story. And then started filming more and more and then got a BRZ and then started filming on that and would post that, like, on Facebook forum pages. I'd get blocked on the forums that would say everyone was talking me on the forums. And it just kind of, like, started building and building and building, and it wasn't ever, like, a moment that popped, but it was like. I eventually started uploading three times a week when I was in college, like, delegating all my time. And then, like, one summer when I had maybe, like, 15,000 subs, was on summer break, doubled down, started, like, uploading like, almost every day, and then started making, like, three grand a month, four grand a month. And then that four grand a month jumped to, like, 10 GS. I'm like, what the. I saw the screenshots of my, like, YouTube AdSense account. I'm tripping out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then it was like, oh, okay, I just made, like, 13, 15 grand. At the end of summer, I'm gonna go back to my job, and I was in the nursing program at my school. And then nurses here make, like, 100 GS a year. And I'm like, I'm making more right now, allegedly, if I continue this than if I was. No nursing. And I went back to school, saw, like, the syllabus for that semester and was like, screw this, dude. I can't keep up. Six videos in this trip and this trip. And I was, like, traveling, meeting other YouTubers all summer, and I. I just, like, freaked the out, and I. I walked out of class and, like, what.

[D]

Year were you in school that year?

[C]

My junior year.

[D]

So you were in.

[C]

I mean, I was like, freshman year, I was in. And I was like, 50 grand in debt. In college. In college. Debt College. Yeah. I just walked out, and I was.

[A]

Like, just on the chance of.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you, at that point, you were like, I'm gonna be a YouTuber.

[C]

Well, it was more. It wasn't like, I'm gonna be a YouTuber at the time, because, like, it was still such a foreign concept. It wasn't like, like, you know, like, there's third graders are like, I want to be a YouTuber when I grow up. Like, that wasn't a thing then. So it was more like, I'm just doing really well now. If I slow down, I'll Never know what could have been. And that thought scared the out of me. So I was like, it, like, I, I like, I was really good friends with. In the fitness world. I don't know how connected you guys are, but like Christian Guzman, Max Tuning Alphalete Sour Strips. Like, they own those brands. Yep. Good friends of them. And I was like, Christian dropped out of college too. The owner of Alphalete, wildly successful. Like, one of the probably biggest success stories on YouTube, like, of creating business and learning how to like, do build that. But he was like, hey, dude. My thought was like, YouTube's now and college is forever. If I fail, I can just go back.

[B]

And I was like, yeah, we had the same thing.

[C]

Yeah. So it was still that leap of faith. And then of course it lights up after that and you're like, what the was I doing? Yeah. And you know, then the rest was history.

[A]

Yeah, dude, we. We kind of did the same thing with like the college look on that. Whereas, like. Yeah, we have this, this golden egg right now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If we don't give it enough time, what could happen to it? But like, we're making any money? Like, I remember when I dropped out.

[C]

So you guys were in college, most of you? Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But like dropping out and still not having any revenue for like, or getting paid for like a year. I was like, fuck, man, maybe this was a bad idea.

[C]

Damn. Yeah, that's. That's a little more risky than, than my move for sure. But.

[A]

But I was young too. Like, I was a sophomore, so a little bit younger.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And like 20. And when you're like 20, you don't really have that many expenses. So it's like better to take risk when you're like super young.

[C]

100%. Yeah. Dude. I remember when I, I bought my GTR and I was still living at home. I didn't move out. I was like very, very, very like everything in the business. Everything in the business. I stayed home until I was 21 and I had a shop across the street here. Even then when I was living with my parents and I was like trying to keep all my expenses as low as possible. And I, I had somewhat. I. Maybe when I bought my R35, I probably had like maybe like a 150 in the bank maybe when the car was 80 grand at that point. So I spent like half my money. I didn't buy it cash, but just dumb moves that thankfully worked out. But.

[D]

Well, they were investments into the business too.

[C]

You know, it was, it was, you know, I don't remember like, how well, the did. But back to your point, when you're younger. Yeah. You're more like it. Which is true. Like, yeah, you got to take risk time to do it. I mean, that's no secret.

[B]

But so do you. I remember back when you were at your parents house, you had your vision board.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And you'd always like, show it.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And you'd knock things off the list. Do you still do your vision board? I do as well. Yeah.

[C]

It's fundamental, like, exactly. I think especially in this world, like, you can get so caught up in so much bullshit. And if you like, I'm like. But I'm like, I'm not like, weird with it, but I'm very in touch with it. Like, I still journal myself. I'll write to myself, like, at least once a month. That's like, hey, right now this is what's important to you. You know, this is what we're working towards. Whether it's like a monetary goal or a, like a business goal or like a, like a personal life goal. Like, I'm not at home at all right now. I'd really like to at least get like 30 hours a week where I'm like, at home. I'm with Sabrina, I'm with my friends, I'm with my parents. I'm not just so sucked into this and kind of falls in line with the vision board. I just think it's. I mean, I'm preaching to the choir here. You guys know how, like, just ridiculous it is 247 and it's so easy to get lost.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

Once, like, you, like, on my vision board, like, I've gotten everything I've ever wanted. And like, even still, sometimes you're like, all right, I'm not really fulfilled yet. Like, what the. Like, I've bought, like, the mansion. I've bought in every supercar I could ever think of. I have more in the account than I, like, whatever foreseeable. I'm not like, why did. Now do I want something three times as much?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like. And then it's like, okay, so the journaling kind of helps. Like, I still have like, my. When I first started, like, my original vision board that probably like, you're thinking of, like, what my goal was. And it was like 10 grand a month and like, financial freedom. And like, I was like, that's all I care about. And if there's ever a moment where I'm like, well, I need more, it's like, check yourself.

[B]

Like, there's time's the most valuable thing.

[C]

Yeah. Wildly and important, I, I think. But it's. That just kind of helps keep me in check, I feel.

[D]

Do you go back and look back at them? Are you.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Always moving?

[C]

Yeah, no, I'm moving forward. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, I know I said it and.

[C]

I was like, I don't know, like I'm like you. No, I, I always go back. I'll read my journals from like dude, I. I have like this journal again that I still writing and it's. I have like, like, like congratulations. Like, like you just made like you know, 20 grand this month and I'm like 22 or something. Like good job. Like you're like you finally made it and like it. I like talk about the struggles even like when I was still getting over like that breakup that kind of like kicked me off and I think like going back in or like I, I still have videos that are like dear 25 year old me. And I have a dear 30 year old me that's going to come out and like really?

[D]

That's cool.

[B]

You have it like I already scheduled, I already filmed it and it's scheduled to post. It's gonna post or is it? Yeah, it's really dude, like Mr. Beast. That's sick.

[C]

Yeah. And I, it just kind of like I just, I think it's just the only thing that can keep. And yourself like, and this goes for like whether you like, you know, people that are listening. It has nothing to do with like oh, write it to yourself if you're like wildly successful, like monetarily like has nothing to do with that. But it's just like as we grow older, like as we get older, we mature. Like there's like all these new stresses and anxieties and like there's relationship, there's financials, there's like taxes, there's like economy. There's all these things that can like cloud us from remembering like what's important because like have you ever seen those like weird things when you're young? They're like how would like an 8 year old like perceives the world and it's like vibrant and there's colors and you hear all these things and as you get older it's like a little duller and duller and soon you forget like what was important then that type of like that psychology of things me up. So I, I just, I really like am so interested and invested in like remembering what you care about once. Like you have the world at your fingertips because then you get distracted.

[B]

Right?

[A]

What, what do you care about now, like, what keeps you going? You said you've. You've achieved everything that you put on your vision board. So what keeps you motivated?

[C]

The last year, it's like, family, like, starting a family. It's Sabrina, for those who don't know. So I got. Sabrina's with me for, like, six years now. Like, we're finally, like, okay, like, finally getting into that, like, marriage and family and starting that next wave. She also has had, like, a huge health scare the past, like, three years. She's diagnosed with cancer, and it's. That was like, a really big, pivotal part where it was like, like, all the money in the world, all the cars in the world, like, all the shit. And then, like, one thing happens, and it's like, whoa, none of that matters. And we, like, we all, like, know that, but, like, when it happens, you're like, oh, none of it matters. So to me, like, what's most important is, like, am I spending enough time with her? Like, I'll give up, like, X amount of views a month I want to do. I'll give up, like, X amount of revenue. I'll give up, like, hey, I'm not gonna do this event. I'm not gonna travel to this event. Like, am I at least getting in X amount of time? Am I, like, devoting that to us? Because, like, when I thought that, like, there was an X amount of short window that I'd have with her, like, everything changed. So, like, what's most important now is, like, I want to, like, make sure that when I'm more or less ready to, like, peace out, like, I have everything we need to, like, focus on us, go wherever the we want, not worry about anything, and just focus on us and our family.

[A]

Do you have a lot timeline of. Of how long you want to do this?

[C]

I have no idea. I. I was literally just talking about this, like, beginning of the year. I'm like, okay, I'm finally at the point where, like, I've had everything I've wanted. Like, my biggest thing I've wanted to do is, like, build my race program. And, like, I don't want to drive fd. I don't want to go and compete and do all that stuff, like, from a kid. I'm like, oh, I want to have a, like, a professional program. I want to have my own hauler. I want to have my own, like, full rig. I want to have my full staff. I want to be able to show up, drive. I want to have the dream partners that's like, hey, you're getting Paid a lot of money to do this and you just show up and do it now.

[A]

So kind of like, Ken Block, now.

[C]

I'm here and I'm like, cool, like, Like I have every fucking partner I could ever want. And I'm like, I want to enjoy it now, but now that I'm here, I'm like, I'm so tired. It took so much. I gave up so much of myself to get here. Now I love it to a fucking bloody pulp. Like, I'll kill myself again to get here. But it took so much of like my soul to get here and gave up so much of the past like 10 years. I'm like, okay, I need to like find the balance. This year we're doing like 14 driving events in seven months. And it's usually like a four to five day venture. Like good life is an example. So like leave and come back so you like, do the math. Look at how much you're on the road. And it's like, cool. Like you've always wanted this, but to have that, it takes this much time.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

This much effort. This much away from this business and this business, this business and this much away from family. And then you're like, is that what I want? Is it better to be like showing up to the track with an open trailer and like six scrubs on a stock Z and just ripping? Or is it better to show up in a million dollar race hauler with a hundred tires and three spare motors and a full team and all the stress and all the stress that comes with it. And then you dial back and you go and you talk to people like Vaughn or I've had conversations with Ken and it's like, okay, hey, you're here. But like now what's the balance? Where does that come in? And then it's like, okay, you're here, you establish yourself. And now it's like, hey, I'm going to give up this much. Like, this is what it's gonna take out of me on the corporate partnership side and on like, like speaking in third person, like on the TJ Hunt side. What am I going to give up at home? What am I gonna Give up on YouTube? What am I gonna, what am I gonna give up on how many uploads? I'm gonna do meetings. I'm gonna have a street hunter, like development plans I'm gonna have with hunting company. Like, what am I gonna do on like meeting out on like certain, like fundamental, like shareholder meetings to do that.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And what family time as well. And then you Say, hey, I'm gonna do this. TJ Hunt's gonna do these events as TJ Hunt. But because of that, hey, all the other businesses that like kind of develop that, you're gonna have me this much less this year. And if you're not okay with that.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

We need to have a conversation.

[B]

You only spread yourself so thin.

[C]

You.

[A]

Yeah. Do you feel like you almost become like a. A slave to the lifestyle that you create?

[C]

And I have friends that are more successful that are. And then you go and you see them and you're like, hey, dude, like, like off camera. Like not even on and off camera and not even YouTubers alone, but just like professional in very high. Other elements of any type of world. And you're like, hey, dude, what's up? And they're just like, hey, dude, what's up? I'm like, dude, like, it's been so long, Howard. And it's like, yeah, man. Yeah.

[D]

You just tell. There's a lot Wayne.

[C]

And you're like, dude, the soul is gone out of them. And there's some that have friends with some that have like realized that fix it, come back and like, dude, like, it's too thin. Like, I, like, I'm not. Like the body's there, but like the inside that wanted it. It's like just gutted and it's like that eight year old perspective ripped. Ripped out of them. Like, how much of a slave to the game do you need to take to have that? Because it's just a fact. Unless you have a billion dollars that was given to you and you don't. You can't have, you can't have both.

[B]

No, you can't work.

[C]

No, you have. There is a, like, if we want to call it a slave to the job, like there is that to a certain degree. And again, everyone loves what they do. I don't think you get that to that success level if you don't truly love it and you're like, well, this is what I want to do anyway. But when it's all you're doing, like 130 hours a week, whatever, how many hours are on the week? And you never stop and you never like take that for yourself or the family or find the other things that recharge you. Yeah. It's like you like, what's the point, right, dude?

[B]

I mean, Ryan says all the time, but he always is like, you got the boat, but you don't have time to. You can. You don't have time to drive it or take it out on the lake. Or you got the, you know, whatever. It goes with anything. You got the, the big house, but you never get to use it because you're always out on the road working. And that's like what you're saying right now. You're. You're totally on a. You're way, way more successful than me. But I'm trying to just be more present, like, just enjoy the moment, not be like stressing, like, okay, what do we got to do next? What we got to do next? Because like, it just. You're right. It just takes it out of you.

[C]

I mean, and to define success, I, I don't view it like that. You guys have a lot of things going for you that like. And I, I have some, like whoever the. Doing your guys's thumbnails. Who's doing that? Yeah, you Photoshop. That's a whole nother conversation.

[A]

That's actually might be the nicest thing you've ever said.

[C]

Yeah, thank you. Spend a lot of time on it. Have you talk to Anthony in there? Do I have him study your. I'm like, learn how to do this?

[B]

I noticed you were doing some new ones at the beginning of the year.

[C]

And I'm just like, that's a. That's a different conversation. But a great example is like, I have 30 something cars. I drive four of them.

[A]

Yeah, bro, you got 30 cars?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

Where do you keep them all?

[C]

So I have some the channel doesn't know. I have some that the channel. Well, obviously the ones that the channel. Channel knows. And I have a lot overseas really that I've been like, just collecting and buying and just like importing when they're legal.

[B]

So when will your R34 be able to come? You have an R34, don't you? Yeah. Or does that not knowing?

[C]

No, I know I do. I. I have a base. I blew one.

[B]

Okay, so when's that going to be here?

[C]

I might just keep in Japan.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Dude, how is Japan? I want to go over there.

[C]

Dude, I will go with you guys if you cut out the time. I was supposed to go at the end of this month for Matsuri and Ebisu and drifting there. You guys never been in Japan?

[A]

No.

[C]

Fuck. Cool.

[B]

Oh my God.

[C]

Is it cool?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, dude, it's the fucking best place in the world.

[A]

What if you're not like a massive JDM guy?

[C]

Okay, that's like the JDM is a big appeal to it, but just like the culture, like the. Just the, the everything there, it's just so different than The States. But like if we went there and me. You guys know what Ebisu is?

[D]

No.

[C]

What?

[A]

We're so uncultured.

[C]

Okay, well, I guess you guys aren't like super into drifting.

[B]

No.

[D]

Oh, wait, no. Yes, I have heard of that. I just didn't know that's how it was pronounced.

[C]

Yeah. So that's like where I was the last time I was in Japan. Like two months ago. I spent. I spent like a week up in the mountains. Have. I have a car there that's a. Just a little JZX missed like drift missile. And it's. There's like a track up way in the fucking mountains looking over the countryside of Japan. And there's a zoo inside the track. Like the owner of Abisu, he's very, very sort of successful. Well off. He has like this animal zoo and there's like eight different tracks all around Ebisu. And you can store your car there. You guys can buy a car there and like they maintain it for you. So you just show up, arrive and drive and they'll do for you and you just rip.

[B]

What's that cost to have them maintain it, warehouse it.

[C]

You have to buy it from their inventory. So they always have cars like for sale that they'll pick up. So you just like buy. Dude, my JZX was like 13 grand and that's like all you need. It's a 1J. Tires are relatively cheap compared to the states there. And it's like. I don't know. I don't know exactly how much it is to maintain a year, but it's relatively cheap. And if you guys bought like two cars there, three cars there, you guys would all go out there and you can. There's skid pads and it's all right hand drive. So you have to learn how to drive on the other side. That takes a second to learn all that. But yeah, you guys have a blast, dude.

[B]

Like, you guys.

[C]

You guys would. Oh my God.

[D]

What's the best season? When should we go?

[C]

Like literally the end of this month. It's like spring. It's like so the snow's like just melting and then it's like. It will be like, it will get hot in like the summertime. But like right now it's like spring. That's when like all the Americans start to go over there to episode just. It's like more America.

[B]

Is it tough navigating around being.

[C]

Or do you not know the language? It is. I'm really close with a company called Top Rank that deals with like importing. That's right. By all my JDM shit. That's why like all my cars over there in Japan, about all through them. So they like always like our liaison and will like show us where to go. But now we're friends with so many people there. Like when I go there, if I just, I literally get to the airport, they pick me up, drive me to their like big facility, I get the keys to my 34 and I just like, I'm like, all right, I'll see you guys in a couple days. I'll drive up to the track, grab that car, I'll come back, slap it out for another car. And I know where I'm going now. Where like you just pop up Google Maps and as long as you have like the address, you're fine. But dude, if I. Will you let us know when we'll take you guys up? You will.

[A]

Oh, we gotta get better at driving boys.

[C]

To learn.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Really dead ass. There's a track for all skill level. Like all skill level. There's an open skate pad and then there's like a figure eight course and then there's like a larger course that's a little bit more of like road course. And then there's like, like toge, like ten foot wide mountain pass, like you fall off, you're dead type. There's big entry, there's 100 mile entries. Yeah, yeah, Amazing. But so I have cars I've been buying there for a while a lot of people don't know about.

[D]

And do you do it as investments, just a cool thing that you personally want to do?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

You want to import them? Do you want to keep them there forever?

[C]

Kind of like a mix of everything. There are certain cars, like I've been so onto the 34 market for a long time, so I started buying them up along like for a while. Other cars too that are like, you know, I've known we're going to be good investments. Yes. But also like, it's like my eight year old self. I always like channel that. I'm like, what does he want? Yeah, I'm like, love that. Buy one in every color.

[B]

It kind of seems like you're going back towards like the jdm. You've done it all. I mean you, you had the supercars and all that, but you, you keep sticking with the Supras.

[C]

Yeah, well, it's like I've gotten to like the Aventador, the Huracan, the R8 Ferraris, the whatever and they're really fun, but to a certain Point it gets.

[B]

Like boring cuz you can't modify them.

[C]

I mean dude, the twin turbo Lambo widebody that whistling has now like that's like as far. That's like the end of the line. You could go to 2,000 horsepower. But like on a street it's just what, what, what more do you really need? So yeah, like then you know, once I've gone through that, I'm like oh well like what's the. That no one can get. What's the. That's not being made. And then like that just kind of like blossomed like that reignited that younger self and I was like get the chuckbook out. Like just fire off and just buy all the you could ever want. And. And the thing is like the rare that you know is good. You'll never lose your dollar on. Yeah, like sure, maybe if the world goes upside down and currency falls away, sure I'll lose my ass. But at that point, what the. The point. Anyway, so it's like I'll buy them now. I'll at least get the write off, get the money out of the certain accounts that you don't want to just get absolutely bent over on taxes for. And then you know when you're ready to import them, you can. When you go to Japan you can. Or you don't want them, you sell them for twice the money you bought them for.

[B]

So with all these cars, do you have a like a car dealer's license? Okay, nice. I was gonna say you'd have to.

[C]

Some I do own a dealer's license, some I don't. I have property in other places too that can help like register certain different things in different areas.

[A]

We gotta have a conversation after. The hardest part for us is being that we all are partners in the business. It's tough for us to go out and buy a GTR or a Lambo through the business when it's technically like our personal car. Like for you, it's like you are the business.

[C]

Just how you set it up. This is how you define what it's being used for. So technically you could. I mean like theoretically like C boys. Like the company could buy any car under that company name. And then you know, depending on who's registered, it could be a company car and you could still have like employees drive that said car. It wouldn't. It just.

[B]

What's the liability look like for that? Like is.

[C]

Is all my cars runner like you know, not. Well, most of are into the business. There are certain exceptions for certain things. But the liability on that is like triple my personal policy because it's like the business is worth X amount. So the coverage is like way, way, way, way, way more. But then also insurance. Fucked.

[B]

Dude. What do you spend a month?

[C]

Can you tell us probably like a.

[B]

Month or a year? I don't know, whatever you want.

[C]

Yeah, no, I don't mind. I don't know. Probably a month. Anywhere from like there's always so many things being added and not added. I don't like 15 minimum to like 30 grand a month.

[A]

No way.

[C]

Well, so I have. And then, and then we talk about. And then. Well then we talk about brain dealers. And then the dealer's insurance is different. So there's like it, it varies. Yeah, but that's just the price of like. Okay, I have this many cars on the roll.

[D]

True.

[C]

I want to build it up in any moment, any time. Yeah, you need to have all insured. Then it's like, okay, well if I'm going to have it on a dealer dealer plate, I'll swap the dealer plate on it. Then I'm allowed to drive that for a certain X amount. And it's ultimately just easier if you can just like write out all of it to have everything always insured. And it's also a better write off if it's going towards something.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's one thing we've done. I mean I'd say really well is literally pretty much every dollar we've ever made. We put it back into the business which luckily we've set it up in a way where we can kind of do a little bit of everything you guys can.

[C]

You guys do so much which is.

[B]

Great because it's incredible. You can be like, I want a Lamborghini and it's a great investment just like for you. Or it could be like I want a fucking three wheeler Y. And it's, it's also just as, as, as good.

[A]

Yeah, that's also the best thing for us is like dude, yesterday, super long story, but we basically have been doing these like R6 like off road durability test kind of things. But now we've seen them. We just bought our third 2007 R6, like the fourth. Well, so we had our third.

[C]

Right.

[A]

It was brand new to us before the trip. We drive out to Moab and have like off road tires on it and we're ripping in Moab House Pass or whatever it's called. Oddly enough we're passing Whistling Diesel.

[B]

Yeah, it was the weirdest thing.

[A]

We were there on the same day as Whistling with his G wagon.

[B]

Dude. We're at the top of this like sketchy rock pass and we just see Heavy D coming up in his bros. We're like, what the hell? And then Whistling Diesel getting towed behind him. And they keep. I don't think Heavy D noticed it was us. And then he just kind of kept going. And we look at Whistling and he looks at us and we go, what are you doing here? He just keeps going. We're like, see ya. That's. It was really funny.

[C]

That's cool.

[A]

But anyway, the, the front brake on the R6 brakes, Evan like tipped it over on like this rock. So then we're like way in there and we had to get it back out. And going down this huge rock face.

[D]

In the pouring rain.

[A]

In the pouring rain. And he lays it over and it slides down this whole. Pretty much a mountain slides down this mountain. And it was like a super fresh R6 basically, like kind of totals it.

[C]

So we written off.

[B]

We.

[A]

We get all these parts shipped out to us. We fix it.

[C]

We.

[A]

We get this custom sand paddle made.

[B]

Yeah, it was crazy looking.

[A]

And yeah, it was like for a.

[B]

Crotch rocket, you know, like a dirt bike paddle tire. Huge.

[A]

So we get this sand paddle made shipped here. We're paying expedite shipping, paying a shop to let us use it and everything. Like jumping through all these and we're like, all right, we got it. We're good. We get to Glamis yesterday.

[B]

Drove across the whole country. Keep in mind, we're damn near in Mexico.

[C]

Glamis? Yeah, dude, that's my backyard. Yeah.

[A]

We had to travel what, 36 hours north, Minnesota, right? I mean, and we're like, all right, we're here. This is going to be a viral video. Nobody's. Nobody's taking an R6 in the sand dunes. We had this thing made. We're like, finally, all right, we're here. I put this chain on and I don't latch the master link enough.

[C]

No.

[A]

And the chain goes through the case.

[D]

About two and a. Like from here to that corner away from the start.

[B]

We just turned it on. We filmed the intro. Goes to just start driving. Snap.

[A]

And the chain goes through the case and it cracks the case and it cracks the oil filter. Oil everywhere. Evan just drops the bike and he's like, you guys are fucked. What is wrong with you? And I'm immediately like, this one's on me, boys. I'm so sorry. This one's on me. It's like you take initiative to like do something and fix it and Then you fuck up and you're like, so.

[C]

What did you guys do?

[A]

So we immediately go on Facebook Marketplace, and we track down another R6 in Palm Springs.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

And we drive to Palm Springs.

[C]

Far.

[B]

But it's.

[C]

It's a hike still.

[A]

It was like three hours there, and then three hours to San Diego. And then we drove to San Diego last night to set up for the pod. But as I was getting to is when things go wrong like this for us, luckily, it's pretty cheap. You, like. We go out and buy.

[C]

Relatively. Yeah, relatively.

[A]

Uh, so you buy this new bike, right? And it. I think it was like 4,500 bucks, which sucked. We were not stoked about doing it, but we're like, it's. At least it's not a big.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like if. If you. Or. Or another automotive.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think about that with, like. I mean, whistling and. And Daily Driven and these guys that are, like, working on exotics, bro. You have one thing go wrong, and it's like 50. It could be 50 racks.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

On these.

[C]

Turbo shit. Yeah. You're like 40 G's deep.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy. So it's a different world anyway.

[C]

We.

[A]

We've done, you know, we kind of dabble in a bunch of different things, and it's. It's.

[C]

Yeah, you guys have had car. You've had, like, pranks, bikes, and. And. Yeah, The. The one where you guys wrapped the car pink and put all the eyelashes and. That was funny. That was funny. Y. We watched that one here.

[A]

No, we do all kinds of.

[B]

So that car looked pretty sick, actually.

[C]

It did.

[B]

You don't think so? I thought it looked cool, dude.

[C]

No, we. We, like, we're going to set up a BE between me and Ev, and we were like, yeah, we'll do the same thing Seaboys did. I'm like, if I lose, I'm not driving it, so it's not gonna happen.

[A]

And I just drove. I just ate it.

[B]

Drove it for 30 days. Really?

[C]

Dude. He was definitely at the whole time.

[A]

When you're driving, dude, you should see.

[B]

It in our neck.

[A]

Super embarrassing.

[C]

I couldn't. I couldn't. No. No way at. Dude, who's coming up with this? I guess just all the office.

[B]

Everybody. Do. We have.

[A]

Just. At least I do.

[B]

And, like, we have boards where we have so many ideas. It's just like, which one can we do right now? Or which one? You know, we're planning out six weeks ahead.

[C]

And. Yeah, I had that same conversation with Whistling when He. We were like going back and forth for a while when he bought the aircon and eventually I was like, dude, how much I. How are you gonna keep it up? How much can you do? He's like, whoa, let me tell you. I'm like, dude, you gotta. You gotta mind. Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy though, because.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh my gosh. And it. Normally it comes it at our expense, but they'll just look and they'll go, all right. How can we mess with one of the guys? And it's perfect cuz we have the group to go back around.

[A]

Dude, nobody's safe.

[C]

It's nobody ever, dude, the other.

[B]

But it's all for everyone's own benefit. You know, you might get punked, but I mean it's. It's helping you in the end.

[C]

That's how you guys justify. You're like. But it's.

[B]

But it's for the business guys 100%. I've been trying to save Ken's life recently. He's. He's a vapor. A vapist. And I hired a hypnotist.

[C]

Vape. Nice.

[B]

Hell yeah. Hired a hypnotist. Didn't work. Ended up putting a. His face on. Yeah, hypnotist, like had him come to the shop to hypnotize him.

[C]

Didn't work.

[B]

Ended up just settling for a billboard in town with his number and. And his face on it, which his number was already leaked so it was like he needed a new number anyways.

[C]

I'll give you a really good idea. Hire an exorcist. Maybe you have a. Jesus.

[A]

Oh my gosh.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

Dude, I've given up.

[C]

That's a solid one.

[D]

I told him to rehab, but he freaked out.

[B]

Yeah, that'd be too far. Oh, oh. Show what he did when he painted it. Go to my page. Oh my God. You got to see this. Actually, this is the best is he went.

[C]

And that was your actual number. Like dead ass. That was your real number?

[B]

Yeah, he had to get a new one. I can't believe that I had to come see this with my own. This is a week later.

[A]

And then the cops showed up. Showed up because they thought people were vandalizing it. No way. Yeah. Dude, that's.

[B]

Yeah, that's amazing.

[A]

We just.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

We just came from Denver. We have a buddy that lives in Colorado there and we, we bought him this three wheeler. Dude's a three wheeler nut. Loves three wheelers. Loves three wheelers. So we buy them like the most legendary three wheeler.

[C]

I saw some shit on TikTok of like some dude showing up with a three wheeler somewhere maybe. Yeah, it wasn't from you guys. It was like someone posting your. Yeah, it was like viral. Yeah, I was like.

[B]

Something about it when we locked them in the U Haul. No, different one.

[C]

You guys were like out in the stick somewhere. I don't know, probably where we live.

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I can't recall what it looked like, but it was something about like some dude and a three wheeler, like meeting up with you guys and. Yeah, it was like viral for some reason. I don't know, man.

[A]

We've done a lot of. A lot of.

[B]

I. I start to lose track.

[A]

I don't even remember what we did three weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago.

[C]

I feel that I don't know what I had for breakfast this morning. Yeah, no, I'm right there with you.

[B]

Keep moving forward.

[C]

Yeah, dude, I try, man. Wait, you guys trademark that. Wait, you guys play hockey?

[B]

I did, yeah.

[C]

Just you.

[B]

All that. But I actually had a really bad concussion story too.

[C]

Really?

[B]

And that's kind of how this all also all got started. I, you know, just was sitting there, I was at my lowest point and just started thinking, like, what do you really want to do?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, so I always say similar to you, like, you know, when you're at like rock bottom or down there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's the. It's kind of a blessing in disguise because you only got one way to.

[C]

Go and it's your most creative. That you don't have anything else to lose. Yeah. No. 100.

[B]

So you might as well just send it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Take some risks, you know.

[D]

100.

[B]

100.

[C]

I mean, exactly. You said, you know, you can lose at that point, like you're already in the shits.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

But.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I was gonna say it's funny though, because. So like whistling, for instance. He spends $400,000 on this Ferrari and he'll hopefully make four videos from it. And, you know, he's definitely making way more money, but that he also has more cost, you know.

[C]

So I'm curious to know what his demonetization.

[B]

I don't. I think he's pretty careful about it. I would. I would imagine you have to be when you're playing with that much money.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't think he's getting demonetized. I know he had an issue with this.

[C]

He's had multiple videos. Yeah, no, that's why.

[B]

Nowadays though.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I know his Ferrari vid got. I think it got demonetized for a second and he just privated it, wait, it got it worked out with YouTube and then put it back up because he couldn't. You know, I don't blame him either.

[C]

Yeah, he's a, he's a genius in his own, his own way. He's taken an approach to like an extreme that like no one had done before. But yeah, oftentimes I'm like, I remember when he bought the Lambo, I was like, so like, are you gonna like really write this car. How much you spent? You're just gonna write this car off? Which was. I don't know if he's ever said how much it was, but more than. Because considerably more than. Million bucks was considerably more than the F8. And he was like, nah, nah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna.

[A]

Were you worried?

[B]

No, it's just a car.

[C]

It's like that car bought me like my dream. Like my ultimate number one car that any like 8 year old TJ could ever have.

[B]

And what was that?

[C]

I haven't shown it.

[B]

Oh really?

[C]

I can show you guys like off camera. We've been building it for like over a year.

[B]

Dude, that's so cool that you're doing stuff like that, keeping some things to yourself. Cuz I'd also imagine you're driving around out here, everyone's noticing your cars.

[C]

Yeah, I'll give credit to Cletus because that's where I got it from. I remember going out to his house like three years ago and I was like, porsche is out in the corner. He goes, oh, that's mine. I'm like, I'm like, you bought a car, didn't make a video on. He goes, yeah, it's just nicer sometimes just to be like in full cognito. And I was like, right.

[B]

Cletus doesn't strike me as a poor sky.

[D]

I was gonna say. That's also interesting.

[C]

Exactly. It was a. It was a. I think it was a 9. It was a 997 Turbo, all black with murdered windows, stock.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

And I was like, okay, yeah, cool. And that was kind of like. I was like, not a bad idea.

[A]

What do you think of the GT3RS?

[C]

The 992 or 991?

[A]

991.

[C]

I am like on the fence about buying another one any day. Like I've already had one favorite car I've ever owned, but I. Purple. Purple one. But I bought that car at the same time. I bought like the G wagon, 4x4 squared, which again, super cool car.

[B]

Yeah, that was badass.

[A]

The highlighter yellow to buy only.

[C]

Yeah, so I, I, I bought those when the market was low. I'm like really? I'm like super obsessed with car market. And like car market is really like based off of like economic market and like what certain loans are looking like and whatever, whatever. So I'm like, I'm very like in tune with that. And I remember when the market was going down, I was like, dude, these are gonna be two stick buys. I'm really close with Hunter from West Coast Exotics. So like we just like are non stop. Dude, I could literally show you my, my text them. We're always weighing back and forth with cars and the uv. I know it's, it's a problem.

[A]

Our guys just kick us in the nuts. Yeah, we just lose.

[C]

Dude. I'll hook you guys. I'll hook you boys up like literally like love that there's, there's another UV perp we're looking at literally like the other day with like full msr. Like all we do is like talk cars. But regardless, best car in the world. I like it more than the DOT two only because of the UB peripheral. But why are you thinking about getting one? Yeah, do it. Well, I'll talk you into it, so be careful.

[A]

I was gonna get one before I got the Huracan.

[C]

Oh, it's Huracan or whatever. The same. Whatever. It's such a better car than I should.

[A]

I.

[D]

Is it really?

[C]

I guess, yeah.

[A]

The only thing that I didn't buy it or I guess the reason I went towards the Lambo is because it's a Lambo.

[C]

I was going to say cuz you wanted the Lambo. Yeah.

[A]

And like dude, around us you don't see Lambos anywhere. No one's ever seen they go nuts in the area. And I just think it just kind of adds to the aura of like a YouTuber in the area.

[C]

I get it.

[A]

Not really that that it means anything.

[C]

But, but, but it's just fun. It does to a certain degree. Like it, it fills your cup in a certain way that like checks that box and like that's what makes some.

[B]

Cars, people be like, oh he, he, they're doing it.

[C]

But, but that aside, like if that, if that like is a, I don't want to call it like a justification, but if that is a reminder of like, hey, I worked hard. This is what I can accomplish. And if has a Lambo badge on the steering wheel, then sick. But like when you come down, when it, when you boil it down to like motorsport and what drives better and like as I've gotten like larger and I've been able to like take motorsport more seriously and I've actually got to learn how to drive. I've appreciated cars in a different way. And then it makes the Aron feel like garbage really. Drive an RS and you're like oh my God, it's just amazing. It's amazing. Yeah.

[A]

But you guys have roads around here that you can like properly drive them on.

[C]

Okay. 911. 911 in Minnesota or Huracan in Minnesota. Way worse drive than Oron, Minnesota.

[A]

Yeah, I suppose.

[C]

I don't know that. It's, it's an amazing car. It market right now is actually like fairly decent on them.

[D]

Yeah. What do you think the car market is at right now? Cuz I feel like it's just changing.

[C]

Is that a low right now?

[D]

You'd say it's a low.

[C]

Oh, it's for sure at a low. It was like really high like the past like two years, dude. R35s went from 2010, R35 with 60,000 miles went from 50 grand, 55 grand back to like 90. I remember I bought my or my GTR 35 back in like 2018. It was like a 2017. I spent 78 grand on it. Wow. Which was like pretty like low then. And like five years later that same car, had it have been for sale today, would have been 110 grand. That doesn't happen in a two year shift. Just the economy went crazy when they started giving money out to everyone. Now everyone's like I'm out of that money. What the am I going to do? Inflation's back up and now interest rates are back up and everything's tanking. So right now it's at like a pretty big low.

[B]

You think it's going to keep going down a little bit more or.

[C]

I don't, I don't know. I don't really. I mean like we're like borderline in a recession. Depends who you talk to right now.

[B]

But it's different too because like certain cars obviously I don't know about the gtr, but if they're discontinuing, I, I would imagine they might just stay. I don't know. Are they? I thought I heard that.

[C]

Oh, when you said GTR, I mean like R34, I was like the R30, 34 just had a record sale. The Millennium Jade, like M spec.

[B]

I guess I was saying R35, but yeah, Dh34 for sure are gonna just kind of stay where they're at, if not go up?

[C]

No, they're for sure we'll go up a lot, dude. They just, like, they just all win. Two weeks ago, a Millennium Jade M spec nerd just sold for a million dollars.

[A]

That's crazy, dude.

[C]

Million bucks.

[A]

Do you find that a lot of vehicles that you want you can't justify because it just wouldn't be a good YouTube car? Or are you just, like, at the point it.

[C]

So, like, it kind of goes back to what my content reflects this year. Like, I've been down this road of, like, all right, I'm gonna build, like, what I think will do well or, like, I'm gonna build, like, what I think, like, will do well on, like, thumbnails or what we'll be able to do. And I've just gotten kicked in the ass so many times where, like, I just haven't been able to make it work. Or, like, we try to do something and it just didn't get the result that I wanted. And then, like, it ends up, like, me, like, texting. Like, me and lz are, like, super close. I text lz, I'm like, dude, I can't figure out this. Whatever. And then. And then, like, Adam is such a prime. I don't know how I just tangent Adam, but Adam does such a good job at, like, I'm just going to build whatever I think is cool. Like, I don't care if it. If it does well or not. And, like, that has been such a good recipe for him. So now at this point, I'm like, I don't care what it. What the views are going to do. Like, I'm already.

[B]

I respect that. But also, you can't really do that. Coming up.

[C]

Coming up. You can't.

[B]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[C]

I agree. So, like, again, my perspective.

[B]

Now you're. Now you have the opportunity.

[C]

I'm like, okay, I'm here. Like, you have those certain, like, corporate sponsors to, like, help, and that's a whole different side of the argument. But now I'm like, this year, we're strictly building exactly what I want. Just, like, I think this is cool. If no one likes it and it doesn't do X amount of views. It, like, whatever. Like, at least I'm enjoying it. Yeah.

[B]

How many videos you post a week now? Or does it. You have a schedule or do you.

[C]

It's kind of just like, if I get one out, I got one out.

[B]

Just one a week.

[C]

And then. Yeah, well, sometimes more. I used to do a lot more, like, clickbaiting. Enticing titles. And since I've brought Anthony on, he's like my full, full time filmer and editor. Like, and I've like kind of talked with Adam. He's kind of like helped me see a different perspective. I'm like, at this point I just want to like upload full pieces. Like the past like six months, every episode for the most part. Unless it's like me vlogging and I'm this little shithead. But like, we film it like front to back. I finally gotten a team that can like help build to the level that I want. And we like really heavily document everything. And I'm like, hey, I'm not going to rush an episode out, just get an episode out at anymore. Just to like meet a adsense that I want to see, to like fulfill myself, to like. Because I like, my worth is in my adsense. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes that hurts you too when you have to like push it out in order just to. Yeah, hit that. Exactly that Upload.

[C]

People that will see it and are like, oh, I clicked this video expecting X and it like didn't bring me like that. And you, you lose that trust.

[B]

We're slaves of the upload schedule. We're. I mean, it's like a seven day a week fucking yeah. Grind every Thursday. But how many, how many people do you have on your team now? So are you, are you editing as well?

[C]

No.

[B]

You don't do that anymore. Now I know you used to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For a long time. Weren't you?

[C]

Yeah. Up until like literally like eight months ago, I was doing, I was doing all of it myself. And I had that really tough time, like, letting go. I'm like, no one can see my vision. I'm the one doing it. And then it. I finally found the right people. I. The team here is five. The team at Hunting company is four. Our team at Street Hunter is three or four. In those immediate companies, then other things. There's more, but there's like, I don't know, 10 to 12 different employees that kind of help keep my immediate circle going.

[B]

And you, you employ like a pretty good amount of your friends because you got Calvin. Who else?

[A]

You.

[B]

Your. Your girlfriend works.

[C]

She works with us. Yeah. Sabrina is like the backbone of like, she's. She's my whole entire, like, schedule.

[B]

And yeah, our manager is talking with her.

[C]

She's so smart. It's like, you need that though. It's disgusting. Yeah.

[A]

Our lady that does all of our ads was talking to Sabrina for us. And Sabrina Was like she was. Nope, nope. You talked to me like running the schedule and like we appreciate that. We were like that's my girl. Yeah, we were like, dude. Cuz our chick kind of does that too. And we like really appreciate that.

[C]

Yeah, it's just one of those things where I just like, I don't say I've gotten taken advantage of but like it's just to, to keep in check in line when it like goes. When it doesn't go through me or when it goes through me, like I'll get like kind of oversept on and I'm like, I don't want them to think like you're being a hunt is X. So like I need someone to do the communication for me until like you develop that relationship with X person. Then it's like okay, like it can be like affiliated to like this level. But for sure, even in like big brand deals and corporate partnerships and stuff, they're like you have to have that or else you'll just get taken advantage of in this industry. And it's happened to me before.

[A]

Same dude. Yeah, we've been there too. And it's really hard to negotiate on your behalf. It's so much easier to have somebody else negotiate for you.

[C]

A lot easier have someone else every. Than you be the ass. That way they don't take it, you know, as like personal. I was like, oh, he said this or he wanted X and it just gets messy. Yes. Sabrina does a really good job of being like, no, you're not talking to tj. You don't get to hop on phone with him to talk about your idea. Like if you want something, if it doesn't go through me, it doesn't go through me.

[B]

It's crazy how YouTube has changed though. Like every large YouTuber, every successful YouTuber has a team. It's like you have to, yeah, you, you need it.

[C]

And I remember I like don't like that because it didn't used to be like that.

[B]

Yeah, it used to be you just go alone. You just film yourself.

[C]

And for the longest time I like would get so pissed at like not pissed. Don't take that out of context. But you'd see channels like Hoonigan or Donut Media and like Late Night Jimmy Kimmel and Late Night. Who's the other dude? Jimmy Jay Leno. Not Jay Leno. He's my boy.

[A]

Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy.

[C]

Like those channels are just like sitting at the trending page and it's like it used to be like the name for, for YouTube is YouTube broadcast yourself. That was their first slogan. And now it's like YouTube. Corporate rules everything. Money, politics, rules everything. The government rules everything. Nelk, you can't be here anymore. Steve. You can't be here anymore. Oh, you say this about the president. You can't be here anymore. And like. And like, I used to get so rustled, like, when that YouTube was taking that change, I'm like, this is supposed to be about individuals. This isn't uploading professional, like. Like, no shade to ebay motors. This thing we. I saw.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They're spending hundreds of thousand dollars an episode and it's a YouTube video. Yeah. That's not fair. And there's a certain level it used to trigger me. I'm like, because you can't. It's not very.

[B]

The buried energy anymore. Yeah.

[C]

And there are some creators that are doing it. There are some creators that came up with it. WHISTLING we keep talking about him. He's a great example of someone who's like, in the last couple of years, who's done it. But at a certain point it has to expand.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But, like, nobody's gonna recreate what Whistlin's doing and take him down. Nobody's gonna do what Mr. Beast is doing and take him down. Nobody's gonna do it. We're doing what you're doing.

[C]

No one can be a better Sea Boys. No one can be about to be yourself.

[A]

And, like, so many people just go out and, like, try and just be that person with like, a little bit of their own personality and it just doesn't work.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

It just like, it's not sustainable either.

[C]

100. Yeah. And gets very large very quickly when you want to, like, scale to a certain degree. And also, like, scaling isn't. Also isn't always what you want it to be. There are certain times where I'm like, we scaled to this point and I'm like, wish I didn't scale to this point. Like, it was almost sometimes more fun when it was just me and Calvin in the garage with Harbor Freight Tools just barely making it. I don't know. It's perspective.

[A]

What do you think is like, some of the worst first mods to put on your car? Like, you go out, you buy a wrx. What is the. In your opinion? Something don't do it, not do.

[C]

Well, there's like the obvious. Like, you go to AutoZone, you get those stick on vents. That's like. That's like, who's doing that?

[B]

You're a lost cause.

[C]

There's A lot of people here that do that. I don't know. Like, those fake turbo whistles. Those are really big here. You see those? You put them in the.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, you put them in the. Yeah, actually, Jake had one.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Those are huge. I hate that.

[B]

What do you think about, like, the wrap? Carbon fiber? Like the. Like. Like, it's wrap.

[D]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

But it's carbon fiber.

[C]

Yeah. I don't like that either. Do you have it on your car?

[A]

What car?

[B]

Me?

[A]

No.

[B]

You used to.

[A]

Oh, I had it on my. On my wrx, dude.

[B]

I was like. When they were putting it on, they're all like, this looks cool. I was like, dude, that is not cool. Don't. I still don't think carbon fiber wrap.

[C]

I feel like every car person goes through, like, a journey. Like, we all placated up our. We all have done tail light tints.

[B]

Well, that was all you could do at the time. It was 20 bucks.

[C]

You wanted to do something. Exactly. So I don't think there's something like you can't do because, like, I. Dude, I've put for flow was kind of a joke. Half. Not. We put, like, carbon fiber wrap on Sabrina's, like, Toyota Matrix, like, years ago. I remember that. Yeah. Like, we've all done, like. Like that. So I feel like there's not something, like, that's totally bad. The one thing that, like, I've. I've really, like, changed my perspective on is, like, rep parts.

[B]

You don't mess with them.

[C]

I don't want to say that, but, like, I've been the person who's purchased it, like, unknowingly of, like, why is it a bad thing? Who cares? I can't afford the real thing. Like, if I'm gonna get the cheap one, I'm gonna get the cheap one. Like, I've. I've had that mindset. I've seen that. But now owning, like, Street Hunter and having that perspective, and when you see, like, how much work you get into, it goes into a certain part, and then it gets knocked off. Like, I see that perspective. I also, like, I don't hate people that do that, but I'm like, oh, I just. I. I have a different taste and a different perspective. Being on the other end and seeing both sides.

[B]

Yeah. Your taste has been able to evolve, though.

[C]

Yeah. But again, taste takes years. Not. You know, when someone's been for a year. You can't crack that on them for not understanding your ideology of why something is, like, okay or not like, I agree.

[B]

100.

[C]

So, like, I don't know why. Is there something that you guys absolutely fucking hate?

[B]

No, I was just asking you get C.J.

[A]

Going on. On cars that shouldn't be modded, though.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, some people, like, I don't know, it's just like, it's like you have a Chevy cruise. Like, don't put a wing on it and then like, just ruin it. Because then it's like you could have just saved your. Saved, drove that car for a year, saved your money, traded it in, and then got a BRZ 100%. But instead you just were so eager, you fudged it up. You. It is now worth less. No one wants to even buy it in the first place. I just see it takes me.

[C]

I'm going to play. I'm going to play devil's advocate and let's see if you can hear me out.

[A]

Oh, boy, here we go.

[C]

So I was that guy to a certain degree. My first car was an E90 328. Now if you're not a big BMW person, that motor that's in the 328 is a inline six. NA makes like 280 horsepower. And there's this very similar car that looks exactly like it, called the 335. Comes with an N55 N55 Turbo. Wicked fast for their time. And when you don't know everything. When I was looking into the forums, I was like, hey, is there any way I can add the turbo on my in on my 328 to do like the 3? And I was like, willing to. And I spent. I dumped a bunch of money into like, the M3 replica front bumper. And I've spent money on like, changing my rear bumper to look like the 335 dual tip. And I spent money on, you know, all this to make it. And all the people in comments are like, stop doing this. Sell your car, get a 335. It's way better. But at that time it's like, it's way easier to justify spending two grand and like, going through the work of selling or like, and spending an extra five grand and it's. And you don't know any better. So you oftentimes look like a fucking idiot doing shit like that. So, like, I agree with you, but I've also like, been there. Maybe not on the scale of like a Chevy Cruze putting on like a fake ARP wing that's like mounted backwards and Yeah, I get that. But I've also been on that area where I'm like, oh, well, I could justify one little thing here and, like, put a cool duck bill.

[B]

It's like these slow little things that you can get right away that end up hurting you in the long term, though, because. Because in the end, you ended up paying just as much money as the difference d near of the car. So you should have just saved your time, saved your money.

[C]

Right answer is, wait, be patient. Sell the car. Buy the right one. 100.

[B]

I'm not like, mad about them doing it. I just, like, think to myself, I was like, more so, okay, I'm mad about it.

[A]

I'm just thinking, like, say that.

[C]

I'm just thinking, like, basket.

[B]

I feel bad for, like, you're. You're never going to get ahead or you're never really going to catch up with that method.

[C]

For sure, dude.

[A]

I guess 100% playing devil's avocado.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[A]

The thing that I see is like, these people aren't the type normally to like, save up and then go and finally buy their. Their dream Supra and then do all the right mods to their dream Supra and get all the carbon fiber and. And like, do everything just beautifully.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But they are gonna enjoy the process of taking what they do have and doing some shitty mods, and they're not even gonna think about the money that they're losing by doing the mods to it when they go to sell it. Like, I. I think you're thinking of, like, two completely different type of people and you're not that person and you hate the other person.

[B]

Because I don't hate it. I just think to myself, I feel bad for you. Like, why are you doing this?

[C]

It's embarrassing. When you see him, you're like, oh. And then you take a photo, you sign all your boys, and you're like.

[B]

I don't do that. I don't do that.

[C]

Yeah, neither do I, ever.

[D]

There's a Facebook page or Instagram. It's like, I'm tired of respecting all builds.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And there's some true atrocities and I get that. But it's part of it.

[C]

There's no right part of growing, dude.

[B]

It goes back, though. Honestly, who am I supposed to say anything? If you're happy doing it, that's like the number one thing. Happiness, health.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[C]

So, like, I think it's just a learning.

[B]

Can't knock it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You can only life.

[C]

You have to do the stupid to be like, oh, wow, that was whack. Yeah, I ain't gonna do that.

[A]

Again, well, hopefully they realize that. Yeah.

[C]

Like. But if they don't rap on a wrx. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It was just on the wing. It was just the center of the wing.

[C]

I was like. We talked.

[B]

They still think it's cool. They still think it's cool.

[C]

Well, okay.

[A]

It was tasteful. It was honestly. It was taste.

[B]

I don't know if you can say that's tasteful.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

You can't say that's tasteful.

[C]

It's honestly gotten pretty real now. Have you seen, like, the. The one that's, like. There's, like, depth in it. Like. Like, I've seen rapid. I'm like, is that rap or real carbon? You can't tell.

[A]

Yeah, it's getting really good.

[C]

Like, there was, like, that matte that was, like, textured. Now there's, like, this.

[B]

He had to match it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, but it's just what you do.

[C]

With your first car, you know?

[B]

Yeah, I'm just cracking jokes.

[C]

Been there, done that. I'm. We all have.

[D]

Didn't you hire a private investigator to track down your first car?

[C]

That's a crazy story. But I did, and the guy was not happy. Why not happy? The. The guy. Long story short, I, like, tried to find my original car back, and we hired the PI to find him, and he.

[D]

Genius found.

[C]

Yeah, he found. So it was like, a dad. He found the son and, like, the ex wife. The dad wasn't living at the house anymore. Who owned the car? He got in touch with them, was like, hey, like, I. I'm like, a private investigator, Michigan Island. Someone trying to find this car. And the guy was like, they were not from a nice area. Like, very, like, for lack of better words, it was like a ghetto. Not. It was like, this is not like, I. Not.

[B]

What was your first car? Just. Just for contact.

[C]

E90 320. Okay.

[B]

Okay, so it's that one. I wasn't sure of that.

[C]

Yeah. So that exact car. I, like, dug up my old van, dug up my old records, found it. It's like, an hour and a half away. And the guy was just like, more or less. That cuts out the PI. He's like, you ever reach back out to me, like, don't ask about my dad. I know the car you're talking about. I haven't seen my dad in forever. Like, Jesus. He called, like, the ex wife. And the ex wife was like, I haven't seen him, like, get, like, just very angry people left on bad terms.

[D]

And then, like.

[C]

Yeah, and then I was like, I'll push a little bit. And I was like, all right, offer him like a thousand bucks. Just like, tell us where the dad is. And that, like, really pissed him off. We texted them again a third time and it was like, shove it up your ass, like. And I don't get. I don't. I don't know what's going on or like, why it got to that level. But I saw the thought he was lying to me, but I saw the text, I have the call logs. And the guy was not happy.

[D]

Just be like, dude, I just want my old car back. I was like, I'm probably willing to.

[C]

I was like, overpay a little bit. Overpay a good amount. And that's all. Like, it was a risky move telling him we'll pay for the name because I'd like the guy. You know, think about from that perspective. I have someone who's paying private investigator to get a hold of me and is going to pay me to tell him something. I thought it was gonna be like, all right, tell him 10 grand. I thought it was gonna turn into like a pissing battle of like how much money can they milk? They didn't know. It was like T.J. hunt trying to reach out. I was just like in undisclosed person trying to reach out.

[D]

Maybe he was doing illegal things in the car.

[C]

Well, no, for sure. Some like sus, like shady. That was happening with that group and I was really bummed. I thought, we're gonna get it back.

[A]

It would have been a great storyline too. Like you say and then you reflect back to, I made all the mistakes and I'm gonna go back and revenge myself.

[C]

That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to like revenge. Yeah, well, yeah, I wanted.

[A]

I should have talked to you first round. My thesaurus.

[C]

I wanted to put it back to like, it's like original glory of what I wanted it to be. But yeah, it would have been cool.

[A]

So there's a lot of YouTubers in this area. That's a ton for car. Do you think that it's like oversaturated? You go somewhere and everybody's got a camera and it's like hard to make authentic or original content when everyone that you pan the camera to is also.

[B]

Holding ruins it when they have a camera.

[C]

I think it's just like where we are culturally like it is now when you go Talk, when a 50 year old asks you what you do for a living, you go, oh, I do YouTube. And then they go, oh, YouTube. My grandson like it that. But like five years ago it was like, YouTube. What's YouTube. Yeah. The cultural, like, standard is just different. Like, now it's like you have, like, Addison Ray, Charlie d', Amelio, famous from tick tock to, like, celebrity, a status. So, like, I think now, like, is it. Is it weird? Like, I feel like it's weird. Yes. Because, like, I was here, like, when I was getting made fun of for doing it, and now it's like, oh, you don't have a YouTube channel, bro. Like, you. You don't make tick tocks. And it's just like a different world. So, like, it doesn't, like, bother me, but I'm like, fakes. Like, this is like, I don't know, like, I'm like, not salty. But it's just the authenticity of what it is now, I don't believe is what it was when five years ago. I feel like now it's like I'm doing it for the money and fame because Logan Paul did it. It's like, when we do, it's like, I didn't think there was any money in it. And I just think the passion is derived from a different place then than it is now.

[B]

100.

[C]

So, like, I don't know.

[A]

I mean, there's more proof. Like, why would I not want to start YouTubing and become the next T.J. hunt?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And have a big house in 30 cars and.

[C]

Oh, it's same thing. Like, you guys, like, oh, I'm a. I'm a. I have a group of friends in the middle of wherever. Like, I'm, you know, we're really funny. We're gonna make funny or, like, you know, phase. Did a really good job of just showing, like, that side of it too, and what can be done. And so I think it's just like the new, like, standard. And it's just like, it's hard because we're the old people trying to adjust to, like, what was ours type of thing. Like, damn.

[B]

How old are you?

[C]

Yeah. 28.

[B]

You're 28?

[C]

Yeah. How old are you guys?

[B]

26.

[A]

23.

[D]

Okay. 6.

[C]

Okay. Yeah. So, like, relatively the same time period we, like, claimed this. This, like, surf spot, and now all these kooks and groms keep showing.

[B]

I do kind of think about that. There's, like, the first wave of YouTubers who were, like, not even getting paid. Like, that was before Adsense. We're kind of like on the second wave. And now I think there's, like, possibly the third generation has. Has been integrated. And now I'd say we're almost on, like, the fourth.

[C]

Dude, we are on the fourth. It's Tick Tock. I'll post Tick Tocks. And I'm like, I see people in the comments and they're like, like, oh, who is he? Like, I only know TJ from tick tock. Like, he has a YouTube. And the people who comments, like, how the do you not know that? Like, there is a generation that is like, just Tick Tock.

[B]

You were saying you got made. Made fun of when you were first starting out. We did, too. We did too.

[C]

All the time. Yeah, dude. Like, just on the forums, but also, like, friends that knew me then were like, you're making. You're filming yourself making YouTube videos. Like, just the basic. And it's like, like, yeah. Like, it's like, I don't know.

[B]

Did you wear it as, like, a chip on your shoulder? I used to. I wore it as a chip on my shoulder. I wanted to prove everyone wrong. Kind of feel like I need to get back to that.

[C]

But, I mean, it definitely feel me to a certain degree.

[B]

Yeah. It, like, kind of helps fuel you.

[C]

But yeah, I mean, yeah. And it's just like, I was more so, like, I'm gonna show my ex girlfriend what I'm all about.

[B]

Well, you showed her. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So it, like, to a certain degree, but I don't. Do you feel like you still need that?

[B]

No, I know I've let it go. I used to just have that, like, though, you know, Like, I want to prove everyone wrong.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All that was different.

[C]

Let me ask you guys this. Like, is there a What's next for Seaboise?

[B]

Like, is there all the time? Like, I mean, we're talking about, you.

[C]

Know, I know you want to give too much away, but, like, no, I.

[B]

Mean, we want to come up with, like, a product, but we're very, very meticulous. Like, we want to make sure it's a great product like yourself or Happy dad or whatever. We just don't want to launch shit. And also, I think we still have a little bit of ways to grow. Like, we need to grow it a little bit bigger before we start pushing that. And we don't know what that product is on top of that. Yeah, but it needs to be something that can live on by itself. Like, we're gonna give it the push, but it's. It's something that. It's not like merch, where you have to make videos and keep pushing it for sure.

[C]

Whatever you want to build live on its own, have its own two feet and Exactly. Not have you guys pushing it every day. To get sales.

[D]

Well, just like you didn't name it TJ Hunt's Wide Body Kits, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Street Hunter, so.

[C]

Exactly. I'm always like, very curious to see like what people's perspective or like if they have like a 3 year, 5 year, 10 year. Not that it's always necessary, but it's always curious to see because you guys have so much potential. You guys are what, doing like 800k to a million a video around that. Yeah, that's like, like. So I'm like, I'm very curious to see. Dude, you guys have so much creativity. Like, you guys are. Have a flow that like, you don't really see. There's not. I think the only other people I could compare you to is like Nelk, just only in the realm of like a group of dudes that can like film with Hasbullah and then like just do a prank or like buy a. I don't know, like that type of environment. I'm very. And it's cool because like I've. I've watched you guys grow for a very long time. So I'm like, I'm like.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

That makes me pretty happy that you, that you keep an eye on us because.

[C]

Yeah, for sure, dude. I mean we. I try to like keep an eye over like, I'll just be informed. I don't really like watch videos anymore. But you guys are. Oh, that's why I was like thumbnail gods over here. That's a whole nother, like sad side topic and category of like what I've noticed people are starting to do.

[A]

Yeah, we put a lot of time into it. Like we'll. We'll come up with a title and thumbnail before we film a video.

[C]

Yeah, I, I know a lot of people do that too.

[B]

Yeah, it's nice though too because we have bits though. So like you could have a five minute bit that is a great thumbnail and title. But then you fill it out. Doing a prank or.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ripping around in a car or whatever, you know, so. Yeah, no, for sure. So you said you were building a. A shop next to your house. That's genius. That'll be so nice, dude, because then you just. Boom. Boom.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

At home.

[B]

Especially if you're trying to start a family and all that. Like.

[C]

Yeah, well, it's just like California and you learn like. Okay. And this is like a whole nother. We could do like 10 different podcasts on so many different discussions. But like, I got really interested in learning about real estate and learning about Taxes and learning about where money can be spent and how it can be moved. So you're not just completely writing off and like hiring, making us another company so that this company pays that company which then like funnels it this way, which hits this tax code, which doesn't. It's all like legal, but it's like how these multi million dollar businesses are being handled that school doesn't teach you. Right. Which like, again, one other topic don't.

[B]

Get us started on.

[C]

Yeah, but I was like, for how much we're spending on rent in California, I could just build a castle at my house and rent it to myself and pay like a mortgage to myself and write it all off. And I could be able to.

[D]

Especially in California, you have to be smart because it's so dangerous.

[C]

They're taking so much getting bent.

[B]

So you haven't thought about just going.

[C]

To Texas so many times?

[D]

I'm surprised you haven't.

[C]

For a while there, lz almost had me moving out to Florida, like, so close.

[A]

Yeah, you could too.

[C]

That like, stems the whole conversation of like, okay, just buying property in different areas or like, completely uplifting, uprooting and moving. And this kind of goes back to our original topic of like, okay, like, what's most important to you now, which is ultimately like, family and dislike friends. I'm like, okay, I could move to Texas. I could move to wherever and get like 80 acres and do the whole whistle and diesel thing in the middle, wherever the he is. But then I'm like, okay, so it's just me and Sabrina.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, yep, I love that girl to death. But like, my friends mean the world to me.

[D]

I know.

[C]

And even though I do, I've had some of you, like, we'll move with you. Like, I don't give a. Let's get the out of here. I can move. I can be remote. But I just think, like, yeah, money's great, but like, I'd rather like have a life. Spend an extra like 30 in taxes to live here. And I, I've been here my whole life. My family's here. And also I think a really big part of like, a lot of my success has been being in California. Of like, the corporate and partner relationships that I've built, they go like, really, really deep more than I think that the Internet is able to, like, really see. And I think that paid like a vital success into how I've been able to like, create a pillar for myself in the world of like, you know, everyone trying to do this. So I think California is Kind of important. I will not be here forever, though. No shot. No shot. When I'm, like, done, I'm gonna leave, dude.

[A]

I think that you could get a compound in Texas or Florida, probably Florida. Makes a little bit more sense. And. And then just bounce back and forth, though, because then it keeps, like, the content interesting.

[C]

Again, like, have also thought about that, but I don't know. It's just. It's a lot to maintain a big property to that level. And it's like, I have Adam. I have multiple cars, like, already stored there. I go there and I'll drive. There's certain cars that are. That I'll compete in on the east coast if I need to or whatever. And it's like, it would make sense to a certain degree, but there's, like, already so much shit going on that again, like, the conversation of spreading yourself too thin and to, like, manage two different lives in two different areas now have a spare set of everything on that side. And it's like, it just. A lot. It just gets really messy. And it's like, okay, like, I'll sacrifice the monetary value to have the comfort and luxury of friends and family and simplicity.

[A]

So, I mean, we're kind of in the same place of. Of like, we want to get.

[C]

Yeah. Do you guys.

[A]

Or something.

[C]

Do you guys want to stay in Minnesota? Like, is that conversation ever ran kind of got us.

[B]

We need to stay.

[A]

Roots are pretty deep there, but we.

[B]

Could get a second spot.

[C]

But routes to how you can't leave. You can fucking.

[A]

I mean, we could know for sure. But, like, we got a really good compound there. We got, like, 40 acres.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Like 45 acres. And then our shop is, like, fully built out. Not saying that we couldn't just, like, up and move. There's no real sense and sell that. But. And then all of our families, all of us got chicks and area, and it's kind of like, authentic to us. I feel that like the Seaboys or it's one of those things like Minnesotan.

[C]

Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even, like, say, considering leaving isn't even an option if you're not like, dude, like, taxes and politics just completely suck here. And if that's not like, really like.

[B]

They kind of do in Minnesota.

[A]

They kind of do, but I mean, not enough to up.

[B]

Not as bad here. Not even close.

[A]

But we probably will get another place somewhere.

[C]

Because the hardest part is how would you delegate that? But a lot of you guys content is in the snow.

[B]

No? Well, it. Unfortunately, it is, but we've been trying not to do so much snow contact content because it actually isn't as servable to the masses. Because, I mean, most people. Most people don't live in an area with snow, so it's unrelatable. So, like, we find that you kind of hit a cap and like, if we want to keep growing past that and especially like after, it's like popular up to January 1st, just because I think people are in that, like, winter time spirit, it's Christmas. They like the idea of snow and igloos and snowmobiles and whatever else comes with it. But after, after Christmas, it's like, I'm ready for summer. I'm ready for spring. So people maybe. And we'll have snow around till like, May. So that's why we go on like an RV trip like this and we stack content, all that.

[C]

But that's what Nelk used to do.

[B]

We actually. I don't think we got the idea from them at all.

[C]

We. I'm not saying you did, but.

[B]

Yeah, no, I remember they'd go to like, Europe.

[C]

Your guys is like, mindset is very similar, which is really cool to see.

[B]

Well, what we do want to do though, is get a spot in Florida. And then in these months, you know, February, January, March, you can kind of bounce back and forth. It's like, I got an idea I want to do with dirt bikes right now, but we can't do it up where we're at. So we go there. But then it's like, oh, we want to do this snowmobiling video. Go back home. You know, you can kind of bounce back and forth, but it's just, you know, it comes down to money.

[D]

Travel is nice too. It's fun. You go for a week and, you know, you can go like you say you go to Japan and then you come home, and then you go to Colorado and then you come home and then.

[B]

Yeah, I've had a lot of fun on this RV trip, honestly.

[D]

Me too.

[B]

It's been. I'm kind of about ready to go home now. It's been over a week and we still have like another week, but. But it, you know, it's been very productive and it's fun getting to meet people like you and just do this kind of stuff that we wouldn't be able to do back home. It's really fun, honestly.

[C]

How many videos did you guys plan out throughout this trip?

[A]

Three.

[B]

We have four, I think, actually.

[C]

Three.

[D]

Plus eBay Motors.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

And then, yeah, we're doing the ebay motor shoot.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

At the tail end of it. And then we've stacked. This is our third podcast, so. Hell yeah, we're making it worth it.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Then we even spent a day in Las Vegas, ran around, cause some havoc. Yeah.

[A]

You like Vegas?

[C]

Oh, we got. Dude, that's like five hour drive. You're there. That's. This is, like, dangerous.

[A]

I feel like I'm being tugged right now.

[C]

Dude. We'll do like. Like, you can get a spirit airline flight for 50 bucks. Oh, you can fly back at night.

[B]

The one day or.

[C]

Yeah. Casino. Like. Oh, yeah. What do you play? I used to fund my channel off of gambling. I almost went into professional blackjack. Yeah? Yeah. Big blackjack player. Really? Yeah, my dad is a really big blackjack player and like, taught me really young, like, proper. Obviously, it's prop, like counts, but then also learning how to count cards and understanding, you know, variables and. And odds and like that. So I was.

[A]

You can count cards.

[B]

You're gonna come with us. Next. Next.

[C]

Really into it. Yeah. Basic strategy. Basic. Just like, basic. Where I could be like, hey, dude, don't hit that. Or like. So when I was younger. So there's a casino that's an 18 and up. So at the end of high school, almost 18, we started really going gambling a lot. And like, that when I was, like, in my prime, I was like, reading all these books, strategies and counting and. And all my boys would come, like, because, no, if you guys gamble, you know that one blackjack player can call everyone's hands. It's not illegal. I could tell you. I could tell each and everyone what to do. So, like, we would go there.

[B]

Come with us.

[C]

I would. I would tell everyone what to do, and all my boys would be like, all right, I'm bringing 100 bucks tonight. Like, and I would do my best to make everyone money. And.

[B]

Oh, yeah, what's. What's the most money you've ever won in Vegas?

[C]

Can you say in one night? Yeah, one night. Maybe, like, 20 GS.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

Nice. Winning money.

[A]

We just lose money. Vegas with money.

[C]

Really?

[D]

No, never hard.

[C]

It's really hard in Vegas because the odds are so, like, the only. Like, your best odds is you need to have a pocket of at least five grand and play, like, usually it's like 100 hands just to get, like.

[B]

Do you do progressive betting if you start losing? Dude.

[C]

Yeah. So I have a couple different, like, betting strategies, just depending on, like, what I'm feeling or, like, how beat up I'm getting. But I'll like, progressive. Yes. Or I'll do, like, super heavy off the rip just to kind of, like, see where my luck is just on a brand new deck. But it just depends if it's single deck or double deck. You can kind of play that progression differently because you're going to run out of cards. It will just cut the shoe on you so quick if you're just doing too.

[D]

Hot damn winning. Sounds fun. Yeah.

[B]

We just need to learn how to walk away in the first place.

[C]

Let's go.

[B]

Yeah, we'd love to.

[A]

There. You ever play, like, roulette or. Or.

[C]

Oh, no, not. Not. So one of my best friends, Kevin's Vietnamese, so he, like, knows how to play the Bachrat game or the. It's called I'll do roulette every now and then. But I'm like. I'm like, get a couple drinks too deep, and I'm like, five grand on black, baby, let's go type of guy.

[A]

But I'm just, like, way too confident in just red or black.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's like a. Usually a big bit. Every time we. Because we go to Sema every year, I'm there for like, 10 days. And we do. We go to Vegas a lot for, like, the shoots. And we always do like, a bit where I'll walk in the casino with at least like, a thousand bucks and just like, start every vlog off, like, how much money are we gonna make today? Either we lose it or we win it. And it's always great when you win it.

[B]

Yeah. Dude, we saw you in Vegas at sema. So, like, sometimes we'll go. Just last year, okay. We didn't, like, meet you. You were walking this way, and you had security all around you. And there was, like. It was, like, very frantic. Because I'm sure you're getting mob at SEMA.

[C]

Yeah, SEMA's. SEMA's nuts. SEEMA's like, very.

[B]

It's kind of like us. We go to a place called. It's called Heydays, but it's basically like a big snowmobiling thing. Same thing as sema, except smaller. And you can't walk at all anymore. So we felt your pain or not your pain, but we.

[C]

We knew how.

[B]

How it goes.

[C]

It's not pain. It's just like. Some people just, like, forget that, like, everyone's just a human. Yeah.

[B]

And you have places to be. So if you have to stop at each spot to sign and take a.

[C]

Picture, and everything seems like you're getting pulled every different direction or at least like, for me My experience is always like, especially this last SEMA where they're now it's like, oh, we're going to use you as like, as our like new face. And there's like you're getting pulled every different direction, every hour on the hour for something else of like driving outside or autograph sessions or.

[D]

You were everywhere.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Every board had T.J. hunt here at this time.

[A]

Cars were everywhere too.

[C]

Yeah, that's like something like that. Like I learned early on for some growing up, I always loved going to sema. Like me and my boys would sneak in and try to get in there and just like because it was so close and that's like all the dopest would be at sema. So like for us I was like always the coolest place to go. So I've always had this fascination with it. And then over the years I've like started develop the partners that can like give me certain spots. And then it turned into like, oh, we want to take your craziest build. We want to unveil the build and like each year like people have seen us do it and now it's like, it's really worked into our like years plan of like, like what's our SEMA build this year? What's it going to look like? What? How's it being funded? Where is it going to be advertised? And it's like a full on meticulous game plan from like the moment SEMA ends. Okay, what's next? How are we going to do it and how's it.

[A]

Somehow it always comes down to the last 38 hours.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. This car is going to be our SEMA car this year for Maguire's and it's going to be nuts.

[A]

Dude, I love this car.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Love it.

[A]

I wasn't like the biggest fan of the new BMW like front end, you.

[C]

Know, with the big grills.

[A]

But dude, I love this thing.

[C]

This is an aftermarket front end. Okay.

[A]

This is not like somewhat similar grill look, right?

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's like the most different type. It's smaller and it's more like. It's not as big as the Catfish oe, but much better.

[A]

Yeah, I think.

[B]

Fantastic.

[A]

This might be my favorite BMW, dude.

[B]

For sure.

[C]

You have the nurcon right now. Yeah. Dude, get this car. You'll thank me later. Really? This car is a stock Huracan. Yeah. I'd walk you. What 100 crazy. I have cup holders, I have a glove box. I have back seats. I have a cruise control. I have cruise control. I have a Better, better audio system. I have dampening control. I have a like it and it's faster.

[A]

Dude. We were telling Ken and it's all.

[C]

Wheel drive and rear wheel drive. Yeah, bro.

[A]

It's amazing. I'd rip the front end off of it so fast. There's Minnesota winner.

[C]

No front end lift. I don't know if aircon has that. Yeah, I don't know. I. I didn't really like this car. I only bought this car for what that is up there. And then I've just been owning this since and it's amazing. It's so good.

[A]

How about Urus? You got one of those too. What do you think of those?

[C]

It's a really nice paperweight. That's just a tax write off though. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

You got your chick driving it.

[C]

Yeah, dude loves it.

[A]

That's amazing.

[C]

Yeah, it's just the 6,000 pound limit. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Four by four squared. Same thing. I was like, okay, we need to try to offset taxes. How can you do that by truck Weighted limit car.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Or it's the same thing. It's the same thing as the Audi though.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

Just double the price.

[A]

Ken says that every time it is same car. Why would you buy Urus when you can just buy a RSQ8 or whatever it is?

[C]

Why do you have a Lambo?

[B]

Yeah, I mean it's a Lambo. Yeah.

[A]

As a little kid, bro, the dream was always to get a Lambo.

[C]

But also the most people buy it because it's like, hey, my business makes X amount. If I buy this car, I can write off x amount. It's 100 write off in California. Yeah, well it's actually not anymore. Now it's going to be like 80 but it. And every year it's gonna get progressively. So you're gonna see people do that a lot, a lot less. But yeah, like if you buy a 500 Rolls Royce that's over £6,000, that won't that calling in. It's a 500,000 $100 write off. Yeah.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

So like think about that for a second. Crazy. So that's why I see lots of people. I'm like G wagons. That's why everyone has G wagons here. Those are all business owners who just buy the G wagons as business vehicles. There's like things how many miles you can do on it, whatever. But yeah, this car's amazing. Yeah, dude, I love it.

[A]

I love, I love the green too.

[C]

British racing green at individual spec, baby.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's now it's a one of two. Some other. Did it too, but. Oh, really? Yeah. This is like a custom motor spec.

[A]

Oh, no paint sample.

[C]

That's. Yeah.

[A]

I love that green, bro.

[C]

Dude, I'm doing every, like, it's like, you know how. Like, I guess maybe Stradman was like, matte purple. Yeah. I'm doing this on, like, everything. Any car I've ever like, painted for the most part. Now I'm just going to start a collection of BRG cars.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

I'm obsessed with.

[A]

Love that green, so. Especially with the peanut.

[C]

Well, I guess.

[A]

Is that orange or peanut butter? Orange. Peanut butter.

[B]

That's orange.

[C]

I've never heard of that one.

[A]

I like that peanut butter interior.

[C]

No, it's orange. It's orange. It's cool. Yeah, bro.

[A]

So sick.

[C]

It's super rad. I look forward to you selling Aron to get an M4.

[A]

Dude, if I sell my. If I sell my Huracan right now, I'd probably lose like, 50 grand from when I bought it a year ago.

[C]

What year is it?

[A]

15, 610. 4, 6.

[C]

10? Yeah. I mean, how do you know how much you get it for? Can you do.

[A]

I mean, out the door? Like 230.

[C]

Okay. You wouldn't lose 50 grand, not now. I figured. How many miles are on it?

[A]

36K.

[C]

Okay. How much you buy it with?

[A]

30. Yeah, it, bro, is the taxes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't, like. If you're paying taxes for us, you can't get that money back, dude.

[C]

Yeah. Tax here on my venator was 35 grand. Yeah.

[A]

That's insane.

[C]

Just to get it. So I'm assuming Minnesota is pretty gnarly, too. Yeah. It's like 10% of. Yeah.

[A]

8%.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Same thing. Yep. Yeah. It's just learning, but it's whatever.

[A]

Like, honestly, I'm not too hung up on that. And I don't. I don't let that, like, stop me. No.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

And I really don't care. But I mean, it does. It does kind of. It's a kick in the nuts.

[C]

Oh, for sure. But it's just.

[A]

And it's not even like, the fact of the matter. It's just like, nobody wants to get kicked in the nuts and lose money. It doesn't really matter how much.

[C]

Well, no. Any exotic you buy, you should always know you're gonna lose money. Yeah. Like, you should always have that mindset. And that's like, if you play your cards right, you understand it. Like, you can profit off of every car you ever have. It's just learning how to do it.

[A]

Yeah. And we made content with it. But everything content aside and, and content aside, like, I just love it.

[C]

Yeah, I.

[A]

It was always my dream to get a Lambo.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Always my dream. But I don't. I don't know, dude. I can't really see myself in one of these. I could see Mike in it. Our buddy Mike. He's not here right now, but I could see him mobbing a Beamer for sure. I could see Ken mobbing it. That's probably it for the crew.

[C]

No. Really? None of you? No, I'm not.

[B]

I think it's sick. It's just maybe. I don't know, it's not really. I've always like, like jdm. I'm a tuner car kind of guy.

[C]

But yeah, I feel like everyone is like, like that until you drive one of the new ones and you're like, like, oh, it doesn't have to be like a low key junk box. And like I have to be low key. Worried about going an hour in this car without it blowing up or like something happening. And then you drive these like new modern ones and it's like. Or like the a 90s so good if you set them up right. Really like modern BMWs I just think are apart from 911s are like untouchable.

[A]

Well, maybe if we got time after this, we'll go for a cruise. It'll change our mind.

[C]

You guys take it, go up and down the street with it, put it in real world, take it to Glamis.

[B]

We'd get there a lot faster than that, that's for sure.

[A]

Beamer in the sand dunes, but things.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

This has been. This has been really good, dude. Thank you so much. I'm so pumped just to get to sit down with you.

[C]

So we've been talking.

[B]

I don't know.

[D]

It's gone 45 minutes. Hour and 55 a while.

[B]

Sorry. It was just going so well. We didn't mean to hold you up.

[C]

I told you. I was like, I. I wrote off the whole morning for you guys. So.

[D]

Appreciate it.

[A]

Appreciate it.

[C]

How long are the normal podcasts?

[B]

Depends. Sometimes they're two, sometimes they're an hour.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

This is on the longer end. This is a good conversation.

[C]

I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it. Well, I'll. I'll expect a round two.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We're in Japan.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

You gotta run another one back, Saki.

[A]

Let's do it. And. And then in Vegas, dude, we gotta. You gotta help us make some money, dude.

[C]

Don't tempt me.

[A]

No, seriously, we do need.

[B]

We do need your help in Vegas, dude.

[C]

I guess SEAM was not the best time, but I was like, that's always a fun time.

[B]

We'll keep you posted. We'll keep you posted. Okay, if you guys haven't already, check out TJ Hunt's channel. TJ Hunt on all platforms.

[C]

You'll find anything there.

[D]

Perfect.

[C]

All right, boys.