TWINSICK Is The Next Big DJ Duo

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Life Wide Open with CboysTV
Episode: TWINSICK Is The Next Big DJ Duo
Date: February 28, 2023
Guests: Alex & Casey (Twin Sick)
Hosts: CJ, Micah, and CboysTV crew

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Overview

This episode of Life Wide Open features Alex and Casey, the Minnesota-based DJ duo known as TWINSICK. The conversation winds through their unconventional career paths, their rapid ascent in the music industry, behind-the-scenes stories, the realities of touring, and the unique culture around DJing today. The discussion is casual, lively, and peppered with stories from both the Cboys and their guests, making for an engaging look at the intersection of YouTube, live events, music, and youth culture.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Origins & Early Inspiration

• Both Alex and Casey grew up in Minnesota, bonding over a love for music and parties.
• Started out DJing high school parties, making mashups for SoundCloud and edits for Vine.
• Landed first club gigs by age 17, sometimes being paid in drink tickets—water, due to their age.
• The collaborative duo aspect was inspired in part by acts like The Chainsmokers.

Quote:
“[As a DJ] just started by the fun of it and like, the love of music. Bringing people together and having fun…” – Alex (01:23)

2. Minnesota Roots & Why Not LA?

• Despite industry pressure, both are committed to staying in Minnesota for its central location, family and friends, and to avoid LA’s distractions.
• The duo fly out Thursday–Sunday for shows and return home to reset.

Quote:
“It’s nice to, like, not distract. If you’re in LA…your roots are here.” – CJ (03:22)

3. Tour Life & Managing Burnout

• Described a packed schedule: Boston, Penn State, then Europe (Barcelona, Florence, Rome), New York, and back for local shows.
• Homecoming shows at local bars/ski towns remain a highlight.
• Approach to burnout: stay grateful and aware of the privilege of traveling for work.

Quote:
“You just got to think how lucky we are to do what we’re doing.” – Casey (05:10)

4. Party Culture & DJ “Pre-Game”

• Drinking and partying are inevitable parts of the DJ lifestyle.
• Matching crowd energy often requires a few drinks; learning to pace themselves comes with experience.

Memorable Moment:
Hosts joke about one of their own (Micah) not being able to handle the party scene as a DJ (“He’s just blacked out”; 06:14).

5. From Remixes to Original Music

• DJing began with mashups and SoundCloud remixes, a strategy that paid off with the rise of TikTok.
• Making the transition to producing original music: only possible after building a base, as remixes drive discoverability.
• Making music for live audiences: remixes of classics are crowd-pleasers and help appeal to diverse age groups.

Quote:
“You gotta have like original music that people come to your shows for…” – Casey (34:56)

6. Crowd Dynamics & Performance Techniques

• Playing to all audiences: from college frats to Vegas-style older crowds.
• Song selection, reading the room, and saving bangers for strategic moments is key.
• Light shows, CO2, and lasers are central to the DJ experience; good production makes a big difference.

Quote:
“Lighting guys and visual guys, that’s their job…Half the time they know what [we’re playing], half the time they’re just going with the beat…” – Alex (17:23)

7. Backstage and On-the-Road Stories

• Interactions with famous DJs like Tiesto and The Chainsmokers; festivals bring everyone together.
• Fans sometimes jump the booth or send creative phone signs from the crowd (notably with “twin” puns).
• Afterparties often end with the guys aimlessly wandering new cities, sometimes “blacked out,” searching for food.

Memorable Moment:
“Our signature is, like, end the night just roaming the streets…we were in Florence, dead silent, blacked out, running through Florence trying to find a pizza shop.” – Casey (27:05)

8. Managing Fame, Scrutiny & Brand

• Addressing “fake DJ” accusations: most real work is behind the scenes, but there’s always pressure to look busy on stage.
• Social media brings scrutiny; they focus on authenticity and building a brand gradually.
• Merch started for free (throwing hats into crowds), building hype before commercializing.
• Name origin: TWINSICK merges “Twin Cities” and “sick”—simple and memorable.

Quote:
“People think we’re making music up there. It’s all made on computer—[live] we have 200 songs, maybe the first 5 minutes planned…” – Casey (24:38)

9. Musicianship & Backgrounds

• Both have musical training: piano, percussion, drums, trumpet.
• Musical background helps with rhythm and production; self-taught via YouTube and ongoing practice.

10. YouTube & Content Creation Aspirations

• Interest in documenting DJ life for YouTube; recognize it’s a lot of work, especially if self-filming/editing.
• Looking to do more city/crowd engagement in vlogs, inspired by artists like Fisher.

11. Youth, Parties, & Changing Music Tastes

• Observed generational shifts: six years ago, EDM was more underground; now house has gone mainstream, even with college kids.
• DJing for sober audiences (Mormon parties) or high-energy high school events brings its own set of challenges and stories.

Quote:
“At that age, like, we’ve done high school parties—they mosh pit, they open the pit, put one kid in the middle…doesn’t happen at a club.” – Casey (56:51)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• On Starting Out:
  “I was 17 in the club, getting paid by drink tickets—and had to use it on water.” – Casey (02:20)

• On Staying in Minnesota:
  “It’s a good home base. We fly every single weekend...come home and get our work done.” – Alex (02:55)

• On Drinking as a DJ:
  “You gotta kind of match [the crowd]...otherwise it’s weird if you’re on a different level.” – Casey (06:03)

• On Building Originality:
  “You need to build your kind of fanbase first and then make sure there’s a want for the original music.” – Alex (08:35)

• On Creating a Brand:
  “It’s like you either get the branding aspect or you don’t. If you can brand yourself as an artist compared to it being your job, that’s the main difference.” – Casey (34:36)

• On the DJ Name:
  “Everyone thinks we’re twins. We got [the name] from Twin Cities, both from Minneapolis…just needed another word at the end.” – Alex (41:05)

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Highlighted Segments (Timestamps)

• Tour Stories & Burnout: (03:36–05:17)
• Party Culture & Drinking: (05:54–08:00)
• Transition to Making Original Music: (08:09–09:54)
• Managing Live Shows & Audience: (17:02–18:33)
• Production, Lights, and Visuals: (17:13–18:33)
• Legacy DJs & Aging in the Scene: (23:12–24:18)
• Fake DJ Accusations: (24:38–26:08)
• Afterparties & Travel Antics: (27:00–27:35)
• Music Training & Band Nerd Memories: (47:13–51:39)
• Merch & Branding: (39:45–40:46)
• Audience & Generational Shifts: (15:17–16:22, 55:36–56:59)
• City, Tour, and Travel Recommendations: (52:11–54:23)

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Tone/Style

The conversation is light-hearted, energetic, with playful banter. There’s an undercurrent of “work hard, play hard” and a focus on community—both CboysTV’s and TWINSICK’s. There’s genuine admiration between the groups, encouragement for each other's creative risks, and a sense of camaraderie and shared hustle.

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Concluding Thoughts

TWINSICK express gratitude and excitement for their rapid growth, crediting their Minnesota roots, musical evolutions, and a strategic embrace of both social media and live performance culture. The Cboys provide a relatable, humorous, and at times probing look into the less-glamorous yet undeniably fun realities behind DJ culture, giving aspiring artists and fans a front row seat to "life wide open."

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Transcript

[A]

All right, boys, welcome on the podcast. So me and Micah are joined by our two buddies, Alex and Casey, over here. They are the DJs of twin sick. Is that what you guys call yourselves, just DJs?

[B]

DJ duo?

[A]

Yeah, and Twin Sick. So we. We filmed with you guys about a year ago where we were in Okoboji. You guys said, pull up to our set, and that was kind of the first time hanging out with you guys. And ever since that, we're like, these dudes are special. They got that. That it factor to them. And we're excited to sit down and kind of hear you guys story about how you became DJs and where you're going, because you guys are going to the moon.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

And you guys are both from Minnesota, which makes it cooler. I've known you guys, known of you for a long time. And like, yeah, you definitely making waves. And it's so cool to see because that's all we could ever hope for, you guys as fans. And. Yeah, it's been really cool to see. So happy to have you on.

[D]

Yeah, appreciate it.

[C]

You guys. You guys are on a road trip right now to Canada, to Winnipeg, and they have to leave in like an hour. Like, I just love it. Yeah. Like, we'll sneak in for a podcast.

[D]

Yeah, it's on the way. We're like, might as well do it.

[B]

So he's on the move.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

How'd you guys pick DJing? Because it's. I mean, it's kind of like being a YouTuber. It's very unconventional. You know, in school, when people are like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like a YouTuber or a DJ. Like, they both seem, you know, unrealistic, but you guys are making it happen. How did that start?

[D]

Yeah, that's a good question. I guess, like, just started by the fun of it and, like, the love of music. Just, like, bringing people together and having fun is just kind of what led to this. And we just never stopped. Just kept going with it.

[A]

So were you guys always on ox, like at parties and stuff?

[D]

Kind of, yeah. Like, high school parties. I would love that. Like, SoundCloud mashups that people don't know about and, like, those secret, secret edits.

[A]

You had to have been like, man, I'm really good at this. And. And I know what people want to hear early on, though, right?

[B]

Yeah, I used to make, like, matchups on SoundCloud. So back when vine was like, a big thing, everyone would do, like, those, like, edits, like, those Compilation type stuff. So I'd like, put the audio behind all those edits and stuff. And then that led to just some, like, opening gigs in Minneapolis.

[C]

So you're making, like, TikTok sounds before.

[B]

Before the TikTok. So it's like we kind of, like, understood the TikTok stuff through the Vines.

[C]

And you got some gigs from that.

[B]

We were just looking in the car on the way here. I was, like, 17 in the club, getting paid by drink tickets, and I had to use it on water and. And. Yeah. And that's how we met, actually, is in the club.

[A]

They knew how old you were.

[B]

Yeah, they knew. And they were just like, send it.

[C]

Really? You're good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you grew up in Minneapolis?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is the music scene down there very, like, prominent, or what's that like?

[D]

I mean, I don't think it's not great.

[C]

Not comparatively.

[B]

Not. Yeah, not comparatively to where we've been before.

[A]

But you guys live there still?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Why don't you just move to la?

[D]

I don't know. Like, we still like it here. It's a good home base. It's. It's, like, central, so we fly every single weekend. So it's like, we got to go to the West Coast. Got to go to the East Coast. It's like, it's nice to come home and have a good home spot right in the middle. And also just, like, family and friends here. Like, when we come here, we come here and get our work done, and then, you know, we fly out Thursday through Sunday and then come home and just repeat the next week.

[B]

It's nice to, like, not distract.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You're in la, but I think you guys.

[C]

I mean, have whatever it is we have. It's like, it's. Your roots are here. Obviously, you can always move away, but. Yeah, that makes sense. You guys are. Your shows are all over the place. Literally all over.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, where have you guys been in the last month? And where are you going?

[C]

And got this huge spring break to.

[B]

Our spring break is the big thing that we're excited for.

[D]

Yeah. So we just announced our first, like, headline tour. And we started off in. The first stop was Boston. Yep. Was Boston. Then we did Penn State. And then the next day, we flew to Barcelona. We did Barcelona, Florence, Italy, and then Rome, Italy.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

And then that was our first. That was my first time in Europe, Casey.

[B]

I'd never been to Italy, but it was.

[D]

It was a good time. We got some good tour stuff in, and then after that, we flew to New York. Landed at like 8pm, played at like 11pm so like straight to the hotel, shower.

[B]

Didn't get a chance, like adjust to the time schedule, time change at all.

[D]

We were like, kept looking up, like, what time is it in Barcelona right now? We're like, we're so messed up.

[B]

Don't even Look. It's like 5am when we play.

[D]

But then, yeah, we did that and then we flew home and on Sunday and played at noon on Sunday, a day party. We just threw like little pop up show back home at like our favorite local bar and the ski show. The ski show.

[A]

Yeah. That was sick.

[B]

Yeah, those are always fun because it's like all your friends can go. Those parties are the best.

[A]

Yeah, your friends gotta be like, this is sick that you see what you guys are doing on Instagram. You guys are traveling the world putting on these, these shows and then you come back to the local ski town and you put on a show for all the homies. That's sick.

[D]

Same thing. Just having fun with your friends. Good time, always.

[A]

How do you guys not get burnt out and sick of traveling? Like, if I travel for one video, by the time I get home, I'm like, man, I'm so over traveling.

[D]

Yeah, I mean we, we get tired.

[C]

But it's, you just got to be.

[B]

Like, think like how lucky we are to do what we're doing. Yeah, it's like getting, you know, paid to go travel and see all these cool places.

[C]

And it's like part of the goal that you guys set out to make and do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it is interesting because yeah, when we're, when we travel, like for this last snowmobiling trip, we're almost constantly like making sure that the video is moving along correctly. Like we're filming enough. And for you guys, you can stack as much or as little content as you want. Same for anybody making content. But you guys show in the year, you have like your climax, perform, hit the show, and then after that it's like you can obviously do what you.

[D]

Want, relax or party, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. It doesn't need you like constantly hungover, like, because you got it. Are you guys booze in every single day?

[B]

Every, like, every single day?

[C]

Every show.

[B]

Every show kind of have to. Because it's like, it's weird if you're on a different like, level than the crowd.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You got to kind of match it.

[C]

I'd be the same way. I always see you guys pregaming and I don't think I could do it any differently.

[A]

And Mike would be Blacked out by the show. Mike, I don't know if you could be a dj, bro. Where's the dj?

[B]

Oh, he's just blacked out.

[A]

Yeah. No, serious? Oh, he's sleeping.

[C]

He's gonna do what he can.

[D]

No, you never want to be that guy that, like, turns on a shot with, like, a fan or like, anything. It's like, I love it. And I would do the same thing. So.

[B]

Yeah. I used to say every, like, time we were on the road, I'd be like, I never get hangovers. Like, I'm good. And then the moment I turned 22 just fucking hit me.

[A]

Yeah, you're old now.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, same with me. 23. I feel like, you know, I just can't do it like I used to.

[D]

Yeah?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, dude, straight up. Yeah. Like, when you're 21, you don't get hungover. Oh.

[B]

Because it's like, it's like, fun. It's like you're like, you just keep going. Just.

[D]

Yeah, just keep going.

[A]

You guys ever gotten too, Too wasted before the show?

[C]

Nothing you couldn't handle?

[D]

No, nothing we couldn't handle. But there's been.

[B]

He used to get pretty up at like, the end of the show.

[D]

Yeah, towards the end, like when we first started.

[A]

Oh, dude. Last year when we were in Okoboji, you were passing around the bottle of tequila.

[C]

Fancy.

[A]

It was the ding ding.

[B]

Yeah, the class.

[A]

Yeah. And like, I was up there for. I hopped in like, your guys little booth for, I. I don't know, a minute. And I think we did two shot, three shots in that minute span. I got down, I was like, holy, I don't know if I could be a dj, dude. I'm a lightweight.

[B]

You feel like a dick too, if you like. If like someone like, with a table hands you a shot and you're just.

[D]

Like, yeah, you always gotta take it. No, I mean, it would always catch up to me at the end just because you're concentrating. The whole time we were DJing, and it would just, like, you're drinking, you're just not thinking about how much you're drinking. But I got that figured out now.

[B]

Kind of sobers you up to any dj.

[A]

Yeah, it's a tricks of the trade where you figure it out. That's when you become a seasoned vet. It's like, yeah, he's. He's clearly new to this. He's getting way too drunk too early.

[C]

So you have the formula. You guys are doing shows and how. Obviously this is a goal from any DJ standpoint. Like when did you guys say we need to work on our own song? We need to work on our own music?

[A]

Yeah, we're in the videos too.

[C]

Some really good vocalists and. Yeah, yeah, we have. You're right. Yeah, a couple times.

[B]

Thanks, guys.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, we got to start, like, in. We started everything in 2019 and honestly only did, like, a few shows, like, some frat parties and stuff with our friends. And then, like, spring break happened. We did a couple shows, and then, like, Covid hit. So after that, like, we kind of all sat down and we're like, okay, this is like a break.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, we can work on stuff now.

[B]

And we kind of. We kind of always knew we needed to put out music. It was just kind of like, you can't rush it. You need to build your kind of fan base at first and then make sure there's, like, a want for the original music.

[C]

I agree with that completely. And then you did, and then it was killer. I think that. And that separates. That's the biggest separation between someone trying to make it as a dj.

[B]

It's music industry is kind of at a weird place right now, too, where it's like, all these remixes are popping off on TikTok, so it's like, it's kind of hard to be like, all right, we're gonna step away from the remixes because they're working, right? It's like, you can't mess up what's. What's working.

[D]

Yeah, we. We went back into that. We. We started with doing remixes and posting them on SoundCloud. And then I would say this summer we started again or this last summer, and that's been our main focus.

[C]

It's just what pays now. It works short form. And TikTok, like, there's like a DJ, like, Wookie, he just makes the beats, and then he just does his shows and just plays all the beats that he makes and that's it.

[B]

We literally met when I opened up for him.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Yeah. That's awesome. Casey met at the show, so. And that's. We have a show with him coming up in March in Miami, so we're excited.

[B]

Like a full circle.

[D]

Full circle. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Do you guys find that it works better to have Two of you versus just one solo DJ?

[B]

100.

[A]

I'm sure you guys get compared to chain smokers all the time. Yeah.

[D]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah. Gotta be a compliment, though.

[D]

I wouldn't say, like, getting compared, but they were definitely our, like, inspiration when we started, for sure. Like, we were all their YouTube videos. Everything is kind of what got us into this too.

[A]

So, yeah, they kill it. But they also have like their one off singles too that they release and that seems to put these DJs at least in my eyes. I'm not super a part of like the music industry. Like Mike is. Is super into like EDM or like house or anything in that. Yeah, right, Right where I wouldn't say I'm like really into that, but I like, I like this. The singles that you guys produce and I like the mashups and everything because it's. It's super easy to just consume and it seems like it's all like party music. So call me basic. I guess.

[B]

It works.

[C]

It works.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's how you almost apply to. Or you are.

[C]

Appeal.

[A]

Appeal to the masses.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why, like, I think we have found recent success is just because we can play to like any audience. We've played like Atlantic City shows, which is like kind of like a Vegas crowd. It's like an older crowd of people. We'll play like Sweet Child of Mine, but like into like an edm and like, even if you don't like them, you still like that.

[A]

Yeah, but I like when you guys do it like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you take like the classics where everyone can remember that song and that moment and then you put it into like a new like modern day EDM twist on it versus just.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like some randomized.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We're like Mike and Ken. We call it wiggle dick in music. Me and CJ call it wiggle dick in music because Ken will just like sit there and wiggle dick to it. And we're just like. These are just fucking noises.

[B]

Just wait. You'll. Once you get into like the Sing along, you'll kind of progress and you'll eventually get to that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Or close.

[C]

There really is like levels to it because some people are like. Yeah, like hard shit. And then you'll play something hard and they're like, this is way too much. And then there's just. There's levels to it.

[A]

It's funny though, when you're like when we're in the boat and somebody sneaks one of those wiggle dick songs on and then pretty soon we're like, everyone's dancing. Yeah, everyone's dancing to do it. It's like. Yeah. It's almost the environment that you're in that dictates it. But I can't. I can't imagine driving down the road listening to.

[D]

No, that's true.

[A]

Yeah. You guys, let's See those wiggle Dickens.

[B]

We can make like an intro for you guys.

[C]

You guys like grew up on the lake pretty heavily.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I would say like, you guys, this lake life might go a little harder than ours being around Minnetonka, but like that it is really interesting how much it's changed. Like even in the last like six years, we're out on the boat, you know, everyone gathers. Let's say it's fourth of July. The main boat blasting the loudest music is full blown wubs. Yeah, full blown, like extra stuff. And it blows people's mind. Like blows the, the surrounding people's minds that kids are getting down to this. That they're almost looking like they're like a little bit on drugs or something. They must think that. But yeah, it's pretty funny to see how that's changed.

[A]

It is, yeah.

[C]

But at the end of the day, your house music's going to be the best seller. But yeah, it's just wild.

[A]

Well, let me paint a scene here for everyone to just imagine this. All right, so living on the lake is very expensive, right? So the people that do live on the lake are generally older and they have kids and they are at the lake to relax, right? So they've made it in life. They've made some money. They bought this lake home. They can go and relax. Go out on the pontoon, go to the sandbar. Right now you got this younger age, millennial, Gen Z group of kids showing up on a $300,000 wakeboard boat. They're like, one, how did these kids get this boat? And two, what the fuck are they listening to? Because then it's just cranked and there's like 35 people on the boat and it's just like a straight up mosh pit party out in front of the boat. One boat surrounded by 50 pontoons of the, the upper class of people that also live on the lake. But there's always that one wakeboard boat in the middle that's just the mosh pit.

[D]

The mosh pit.

[A]

So yeah, yeah. And then so being a part of that wakeboard boat in, in the mosh pit, I always enjoy looking up and just watching the faces of all the, the moms and dads or they cover their kids ears. They're like, honey, don't be like that.

[D]

No, it is crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Fourth of July is always a great time. We're thinking about throwing a party this summer on the, on the lake.

[D]

Yeah, we want to do some like, some pop up style and like smaller, like not thousands of People, but a few hundred people and film the whole thing and that'd be sick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

On there. That's some. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we'd like to come. Yeah, I think. I think more and more people or you guys are making music for our generation, though. And you guys have the eye for what people or the ear for what people want to hear, and you just got to almost just stick to that. And do you guys see it, like, continuing to change, like, year after year?

[B]

For sure, yeah.

[A]

Or has it been pretty consistent, like, over the last, like, six years?

[D]

It's definitely changing. I'd say this last two years definitely, like, house music has become more popular even. Like, what from. We started making, like, the stuff on our Spotify is not what we represent. Represent now. It's like completely different now. So it's like everything's just changing. Just like house music to. I mean, we got into, like. It was called future bass, which was more harder, like more wobs and stuff like that. It's like, that's what we'd play at our shows. And now it's like a little bit more mature, like, relaxed, but still, like those party songs that still get everyone going.

[B]

We play a lot of, like, frat shows, too. And, like, we noticed recently that before it'd be kind of frat kids would just know, like, sing along stuff. But now they're actually kind of, like, getting in the scene and they actually kind of, like, know the actual house music, which is cool because, like, we'll play some, like, sometimes, like, late in the night, we'll play like, some more underground and, like, kids will still know it, which is sick because usually we just play like Mr. Brightside on repeat.

[A]

It's gotta be the best, though, when you guys are up there and you're looking out onto a crowd of people and they're all singing along to what you're making.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or what you're playing.

[D]

It is a good feeling.

[A]

It's like the best dopamine. Hit it.

[B]

Literally. It'll change your mood in a second. Well, like, be down bad, like, traveling all day. Then it's like, all right. You see a crowd, like, going hard. It's just like, you gotta. You just do it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It just fires you up.

[D]

One thing I was thinking about too, is how different it looks from the crowd, back up at us from what we see. So that's just like something I always think about. It's like, you know, if there's. If the venue's maybe not completely full, it's like the people in the Middle, like, it still doesn't look any different to them. Like, just a random thought always comes to mind.

[B]

And, like, the light show of, like, shows, there's a huge part of it.

[D]

Yeah, lights and, like, if you don't.

[B]

Have proper, like, lights, visuals, any of that stuff, the show is. Looks half the size as it is.

[A]

Do you guys have to bring those lights and. And set everything up, or is it that, like, the venue has to provide that?

[D]

Typically the venue. But, like, if it's more like a private party, like, say, like, we do something here, we'd, like, hire a production company that would come and bring everything and set it all up. So how does that work?

[A]

I've always wondered. How do you synchronize the lights to the music and, like, the beat drops?

[D]

Lighting guys and visual guys. That's. That's their job controller.

[A]

So do they know what you guys are playing ahead of time, or they're just, like, on it and they're listening and. And when the beat drops, like, they set off the smoke or whatever?

[D]

I would say half the time they know, and then half the time they're just kind of guessing, going with the beat and.

[C]

Yeah, that's what. Yeah, that's what I didn't know is, like, they're on a controller and they're. They're controlling it live. Like, this might be a niche question, but, like. So lasers are making their way into every DJ set, and now they're like, the more lasers, the better. And some of it is wicked. But, like, is there a point where it's too much?

[D]

I don't think so.

[B]

I don't think so. And, like, the people that are really in the scene, like, they go to a bunch of raves. Fucking love that shit.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Every time there's lasers, everyone just.

[B]

Everyone loses. Everyone.

[C]

I guess I should say. Like, I could see a certain point where they're being like, okay, it's just.

[D]

Lasers, but, yeah, no, it's cool. When it's pitch black, you see some lasers. I definitely think CO2 is, like, the biggest. Like, the big. On every job that makes the biggest difference in a show.

[A]

Yeah, dude, we were front row at Diplo in Vegas. And I will admit that was probably one of the times I became a wiggledicker. You know, he was playing the house music and, like, the underground stuff that I had no idea what it was, but I was up there just dancing along. I've been along. I was probably pretty liquored up, but we were front row and we were right behind, like, the. The CO2 yeah, dude. I didn't know how cold that stuff was. So at the end of it, I'm freezing. Like, I'm, like, continuing to just get blasted with what felt like just like cold. Cold or frozen ice.

[C]

Your clothes off.

[A]

I mean, damn near. And I got so sick after that.

[D]

Shirts hanging out.

[B]

You guys go to Vegas a lot?

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Like once a year. It's about all we can handle.

[B]

Nice. I've never been.

[A]

Oh, you guys have never been. Are you guys performing in Vegas? Yeah.

[D]

In May.

[A]

When?

[D]

At.

[B]

Are we allowed to say? It isn't announced.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Tell us something. But we might have to come.

[B]

Yeah, 100%. It's my first time. You got to go.

[D]

Oh, bro.

[B]

Because he would go.

[D]

I went. I was 21. Casey was still, like, 19, so.

[B]

And I was like, yeah.

[A]

What's.

[C]

Also, you just didn't.

[D]

No fake IDs in Vegas?

[B]

Yeah, he would, like, you got to.

[A]

Be 21 in Vegas.

[B]

He would, like, get to hang out with all these DJs and I'd be at home. Like, that is the crazy part.

[C]

Like, Vegas just houses. Like, you know, literally the residency, I just learned about that, that they just live there and DJ every single night at one place. But there's ups and downs to that. But a lot of ups is that.

[A]

The goal is that, like, to have your residence. That's gotta be.

[B]

That's like the. That's like the top. Like, once you get a residency, you, like, pretty much make it so interesting.

[C]

It. It is interesting how comfortable that looks for, like, Steve Aoki or whoever's.

[B]

We hear stories all the time where it's like, Vegas is like DJs homes. Just because they get the same hotel every time, same dinner every time, they.

[C]

Actually get a routine. Routine. And it's like the same kind of income and the flow and the vibe.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They know what they're going to get with the crowd, too. Every time. That's a big thing for us. Like, we're. We play shows. Like, some of the crowds are, like, lit, and then some of them just aren't as lit just because it's like, we're at that level. So it's like, we don't really know. We're getting into all the time on shows, but when you're at that Vegas level. So do you ever have like a.

[C]

Let's say you have a halftime, like, even just a couple seconds and the crowd's not lit? Like, are you guys, like, what, you have a set of steps to take or are you just Kind of take it as it goes and do your best.

[D]

Do our best. But, I mean, we definitely have, like, we don't play all our bangers right away. Like, we save some for the end, and we always know, like, there's some that can just completely.

[A]

It'll work.

[B]

And you can kind of tell, like, at the beginning of a show what the vibe is going to be, like. Just, like, looking in the crowd and, like, seeing the people out there, you can kind of tell how it's gonna go.

[A]

You guys met a lot of DJs?

[B]

Pretty good amount.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, good amount. I mean, I like festivals. It's like, however many DJs are on that lineup. Like, 20, 30 sometimes. So it's like you're all in one place for one.

[C]

Who's the favorite, I guess, of what you guys have?

[B]

I'd say Chainsawkers. Just because I've always looked up to them.

[D]

Yeah, same. Yeah, we played a show with them in Minneapolis. We opened, and that's legit. It was, like, full circle because it was super surreal.

[B]

Yeah. It was like all our family was there. Like, my parents never really see the shows. Like, they don't go to that many.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So it's, like, kind of hard to explain because you kind of got to be there to see it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then when they're there, they're like, oh, wow, this is, like, real.

[C]

And you guys is.

[D]

I guess.

[C]

Well, who does the film and the videography? You. I mean, whoever you have with. But, like, your guys's shows are incredibly well documented, and that's important.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

We.

[B]

We always look at, like, old videos.

[D]

And be like, damn, I was doing the way here. But everything, like, as much as we can on iPhone, just because it's easy. It's always in your pocket. And, I mean, I bring a GoPro around. I have a little film camera that's, like, just disposable. Just rip those all the time. And then combine that with venue, photographers and everything else, and it all kind of goes together.

[A]

You guys met any DJs that just, like, don't give you the time of day? Because they, like, are so big. They just think they're hot.

[D]

If.

[A]

If you don't want to say any names. You don't.

[D]

I don't think so. We met.

[B]

Not really.

[D]

We met Tiesto. He was cool, which.

[B]

That was really crazy.

[D]

He gave us a time of day, like, right before a big set, and he gave us, like, 10 minutes.

[B]

We talked, and he pulls up in, like, a huge, like, suburban, and he just like, talked to us for five minutes. Hops right on the stage.

[D]

Yeah, it was. It was cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They got to be stoked to see, like, younger kids coming up doing, like. Because Tiesto's pretty old, isn't he? Yeah, he's been in the game for a minute. Yeah. He's known with, like, David Guetta and. And, yeah, I mean, chains, poker has been in the game.

[B]

They're getting kind of old.

[D]

Number 30s. Yeah. There's a few, like, get. Who else? Tiesto. There's a couple others that are that. What, that have been around forever. Just.

[B]

Oh, yeah, 50.

[D]

50 years old, still doing it.

[B]

It's crazy. I saw this TikTok the other day. It was like, David Guetta. Like, it was in his hotel, and he literally had 20 suitcases. And he's like, I'm so burned out. I've been home. And I'm like, dude, how do you do that? That's, like, on a different level.

[A]

You know what else is insane is. Is being 50, but still having such a pulse on what people want to hear. Yeah. And, like, think about how many different ages he has DJ'd in front of, like, from. I don't know what. Back in the 80s, I listened to a podcast when he was talking about, like, yeah, it used to be, like, dance, dance disco music, literally in the 80s, and then, like, disco balls and just, like, seeing all the changes over the years, but.

[B]

And, I mean, the equipment they played on back then was a thousand times harder than now.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Now we can literally show up to a show with a usb, just plug it in and play. Like, back then, they would have, like, their whole crates of actual records, which is crazy to me.

[A]

So be honest with me. Are you guys actually doing that?

[C]

I knew you there.

[A]

I knew that, like, constantly hitting buttons and spinning shit. And I'm like, all right, some of this has just got to be for the show. Right. There's no way that they're doing that much, like, right. You gotta. You got the playlist, and it should just be going right. Like, what the are you guys doing up there?

[D]

A lot of people think, like, we're making music up there. It's like, no, we're not making music. Everything's made on a computer.

[B]

But we spend the whole week editing the set. And honestly, now we don't even have order for our set. Like, we just have a crate of, like, 200 songs, and we have maybe the first five minutes. But what you're saying about the buttons and shit, like, a lot of the time that's habit of just, like, adjusting.

[D]

Stuff and, like, small adjustments, like touching just like.

[A]

Or is it because so many people, you know, so many people are watching you and you're like, fuck, I gotta start doing something with you.

[B]

Get, like, awkward up there.

[C]

Well, dude, it is like.

[B]

So it's either that or you take a pole. Yeah. You either touch the board or you take a poll.

[D]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

Alex is over here. Just wasted by the end of it.

[D]

Yeah. No, I mean, there's always people that say something, like, everything we post on Tick Tock, like, these guys are fake DJs. They're not even doing anything. It's like, yeah, we are.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That we really like.

[C]

That's got to be so frustrating to hear because, like, I mean, at this point, I've said it, I don't know, a while back on the podcast, but it's like, I. What you guys are doing is incredibly appealing to me as a career choice. Obviously a lot of people, but, like, it really is in the fact that you guys are making traction. Like, good traction is just like, really, really inspiring. But, like, overall, I think being a dj, you get a lot of scrutiny. People are like. I mean, the fact that they're calling you fake DJs and you're like, literally living it full blown, making music and playing multiple shows a week, it's tough.

[D]

I don't let it get to me anymore. It's like, you know, we put in the work.

[C]

I mean, this is what you wanted.

[D]

We are playing the shows. It's like, I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm capable of. It's. I don't need to prove anything at this point or that kind of.

[C]

So do you guys have, like. I mean, this has to be hard with how much shows you play, but, like, crazy stories, like, I mean, crazy. The craziest place you've been.

[A]

Fans get up on the Try and get like, behind the booth or like.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's always like the security guards.

[A]

Yeah, Deal. But what about just like, random people that are like a part of the entourage of, like, the DJ Bomb booth that, like, keep on, like, coming up? When you guys are like, up there spinning and mixing, does that get annoying?

[D]

I don't mind it. I think it's more fun when it's like a party up there. When it's just us up there. Like, I mean, I would say, like, more towards the end of the show. And it's like, everyone's like, you know, been drinking a good bit. It's like It's a good party up there. That's always fun. I don't mind that, but we always have fun.

[B]

And after.

[D]

Yeah, after parties, I can't think of, like, any specific moment, but, like, we're.

[B]

Our signature is, like, will end the night, like, just roaming the streets. It'll be me, Alex, and our manager, Nick, and it'll be us three just, like, super up roaming the streets. Like, what we were just in when we were in Europe.

[D]

I love that we were in Florence.

[B]

And there was nobody out. It was like these sick, like, European.

[D]

Streets, like, dead silent.

[B]

Dead silent. Like, and we were just blacked out, running through Florence, like, trying to find.

[D]

A pizza shop open.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What about the chicks? Like, I can't imagine the chicks that.

[B]

Are throwing themselves at you guys.

[A]

Like, you guys are up there spinning, getting all these wiggle dickers going, and the chicks got to just be staring at you in awe, and they're like, oh, my God.

[B]

The girls like the Snapchat clips and the be real clips.

[D]

Yeah. The B reels are big.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What about.

[A]

What about when they, like, put their Instagrams there?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, hold them up.

[D]

I try and get good videos. There's some. There's some pretty creative signs that.

[B]

That trend has been unreal. Like the phone sign trend of, like, who can hold up the most up phone sign. It's crazy.

[D]

It's always funny, like, because. Yeah. If it's.

[C]

If whatever they're saying is messed up enough, you're like, I gotta get this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

With the name Twin Sec. You always hear stuff about something. Something twins on the sign or whatever.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You can do your imagination on that one.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So do you guys, like, clean up on the girls being DJs?

[D]

We just do our job.

[C]

That's the literal, best answer that you could have given there.

[D]

We do our job, go to the airport, and we go to the next city and get some. Get some lunch.

[C]

We gotta go. That's amazing. Do you guys fly first class usually or.

[D]

We don't buy first class, but sometimes upgrade. We get upgraded a good bit just because we're pretty loyal to Delta.

[C]

Really?

[D]

We love that Delta.

[C]

Yeah, I guess. Random. Yeah, we usually fly Delta, and when we flew to Revelstoke, Ken bought us United flights. I'm not gonna get mad at Ken for that. You might.

[A]

Well, I'm not mad about the flights, dude. I'm glad that Ken puts us back by the bathroom in the middle seats every single time.

[C]

As soon as we were on the first United flight and we were we upgraded to first class, and I was like this. I'd still rather be in a Delta in the back of the plane. At least I get to watch movies.

[D]

The United First.

[B]

I mean, Delta is the best. Yeah, yeah, close.

[D]

I'd say the worst thing is, though, when you're hungover and you find out you have a middle seat. That's.

[C]

That's got to be. Yeah, we said that too. Like, a middle seat between two strangers has to be the worst. That then you're actually, like, anxious because you're like, this sucks the whole time.

[A]

Hot.

[D]

You can't do anything.

[A]

You ever had a plane yak? Have you?

[D]

I don't think I have. We're so used to it. It's like as soon as I got on a flight, I just fall right to sleep.

[B]

It's more like right before. Well, we don't. We don't throw them, really.

[D]

No.

[A]

Is that not true?

[C]

I mean, everybody throws up.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

There was one time when we were in. We were Toronto, and I was, like, pretty bombed. And it was like, one of the first times we were, like, hanging out with our, like, new team, like, management stuff, and I was, like, really bad because we were, like, just like. It was like a party with him. We were trying to, like, just have a good time the first time and put it. Pull it together and get to the airport, get on the plane.

[D]

Never say no to a shot, dude.

[A]

There's few things worse than flying and traveling hungover.

[D]

I mean, we're used to it.

[B]

You just kind of gotta do.

[A]

You guys are just veterans.

[B]

Just wait until we're like, three years into it.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Yeah, you'll be even bigger veterans. But. But it might hurt more.

[D]

It'll hurt more. That's for sure.

[A]

Gonna be flying private by that point, though, so it's not. You're gonna just use the. The plane as just another excuse to just keep the bender going.

[D]

Yeah. Have a bed on the plane.

[C]

Yeah, that'd be cool. You guys have always, like, traveled with your. Your close homies, anybody that supports you, anybody that is clearly there to make your experience better also. But I really appreciate that about, like, you guys have reached out to us for multiple shows that we haven't gone to for. For no particular reason besides being busy. But, like, I really appreciate that about you guys. You guys are always reaching out. Come to this show. Come to this show. So, like, we appreciate that. And I love that you keep your close, original friends with you.

[B]

That's the best.

[D]

That's what keeps it fun. It's like partying with your friends and just giving people a good time that I guess normally don't get to do that kind of stuff. And you know, traveling, flying to like Miami and going to a show, like, it's fun.

[B]

So it's a cool experience for like our friends to like see what goes on too because they always hear about it. Yeah, it's like when you're actually there experiencing the show, it's. It's cool.

[D]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Dirt bike anymore, Alex.

[D]

We went like off road riding in Colorado. We went and got an Airbnb in Breckenridge back in August and that was my first time like doing some off road mountain riding. So that was a good time. But haven't ridden since then and.

[A]

Used to race though, didn't you?

[D]

Yeah, I raced. I raced my whole life. Started riding when I was like two, two and a half years old and.

[C]

Yeah, no, I mean, Alex is a quite a bit better dirt biker than I think maybe all of us. I don't know about anymore, but yeah, maybe you're a little rusty now, but that's to be expected with how busy you are with DJing. But yeah, you kind of like embodied all the things that we do.

[D]

That's. I guess. Yeah, we're pretty similar, like with similar stuff like snowmobiling, you know, lake life and all that growing up. And I went snowballing yesterday actually, so that's kind of cool.

[C]

But yeah, I saw your stories. Like, this is the last time. Yeah, I'll be snowbling before a month on spring break. I'm like, well, I'm happy to see you get literally like the both worlds.

[D]

Yeah, no, but I grew up racing. I raced my whole life. I actually like, I did like online school for like the last two years of high school racing and then made it all the way until I got my pro license when I was 17 or 18 or 18. I guess about that time was when I was like getting out of it and then starting the DJ and all that. Like, I think it was actually the day we like announced or the week we announced Twin Sick the next week. I like raced at Millville and tried doing my first pro debut but you know, I hadn't written. Was like I wasn't focused on it or anything.

[C]

So that's pretty crazy. It's, it's, it's really interesting to be, I mean, really good at two things and have to pick, I guess. But I think you made the right choice.

[D]

Yeah, it was much as it was. I loved it like every Minute of it, like growing up and, you know, all the friends you meet at the tracks and all that. And yeah, that's where I met a lot of good friends, so.

[C]

And it's the same thing now, just, you know, different genre of people.

[D]

But yeah, it's actually funny at, at that race at Millville. My, like, I raced during the day and then at night we threw like a huge after party at like the RV and like we were DJing there and all that. So it was cool to blend the two together for sure.

[C]

Definitely.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's what I want to do. I want to have like, like a DJ party out at the track. I think that'd be so fun.

[B]

It's sick. You can just throw a DJ in any, like, situation, any.

[C]

Make it cool, anything. That's what I mean.

[A]

A lot of people, I guess when they think of DJs, there's like either the mainstream DJ of people putting on these music festivals or there's the wedding dj. What's the deciding factor between somebody going the wedding route or the festival route? Because it seems like two completely different lifestyles. Yeah, like these people all start out in the same.

[C]

Those are two completely different people.

[B]

It's like you either get the branding aspect of it or you don't. I think it's like if you can brand yourself as like, you're an artist just compared to like, it's your job. I think that's the main difference. And like, if you make music, that's another big thing. Like there's not a lot of deep. I mean, there's like none out there that have no songs out, like under their name that are big.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You gotta have like original music that people come to your shows for your music, not just to see you DJ.

[A]

So would you guys DJ my wedding one day? Maybe?

[B]

Well, yeah. DJs do like wedding, like big. Like famous ones do like weddings. So 100.

[C]

I mean, obviously, if the price is right.

[A]

Yeah. I saw a Diplo story. He was DJing some like, Indian wedding.

[B]

That's crazy. We haven't done one.

[D]

I haven't done one yet. But it'll be fun when we do. And we'll be wearing suits and just get fucked up.

[B]

Yeah, we get asked all the time.

[A]

Looking to clean up on some of the bridesmaids.

[D]

Yeah, we get asked by, like friends.

[B]

And family all the time, can you do my wedding?

[D]

Like, I'm not going to be the one announcing when you're walking out, but we'll throw an after party through a.

[C]

Wild after party that's got to be tough to. I'm sure you guys get that a lot. You guys should come and DJ this and it's just like genuinely not worth your time and you don't want to be a dick, but you got to tell them you got a book.

[D]

Yeah, that's got to be tough.

[A]

You guys watch a lot of YouTube?

[D]

Not as much anymore. I used to. I was like, I guess too. I have like a background of like videography and photography and that was kind of what got me into DJing as well. So I would say, like, I used to watch that pretty regularly, like throughout end of high school and through college and stuff, but not as much anymore. Keep up on your guys stuff though. A good bit.

[A]

Cool, thanks.

[D]

It's been crushing, I think.

[A]

I guess the reason I asked is if there's like DJs that do YouTube that, that show the lifestyle behind it. I guess I'm not super familiar with it, but I think it'd be really cool if you guys almost just like vlogged being DJs.

[D]

We're working on that.

[B]

That's like the biggest thing we're working on right now. Oh, it's like to figure out how to document when we travel. Just because we're at the level right now. We are traveling a lot. So we want to like put it all on film and. But it's just hard to.

[D]

As us two filming. It's. It's a lot. It's a lot more to put on our plate.

[B]

You need to have like a full time guy because then.

[C]

Yeah. You know, a full time guy in the editing. And then that's kind of going back to what I was saying then you're not just showing up and the show is the climax.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Then it's like however much you want to turn it on and be on camera is up to you guys. And the more that you are, the better the video will be.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But then it gets to be like. Well, that, that trip was a lot of work because we tried to make changes.

[A]

Yeah, whatever.

[C]

But with how many shows you guys do and with them sometimes blending together, I think like something that you can do to like engage with the city or the people that you're at. Like some sort of segment. I don't know what that looks like, but something that changes it up. Like whether that's like interviewing a fan or just some. Having someone come take shots with you guys or something.

[D]

Something special for each city. That's a good idea.

[B]

Yeah. Fisher. Fisher kills it. We like his videos a lot yeah, he has really good, like, behind the scenes stuff just because his personality is a character, but saying he's.

[D]

He's crazy behind the camera too, which, I mean, being on camera, it's like, I'm more used to it now than I was before. But I think even if, you know, we have someone filming us full time, it's like, it's just gonna only get easier. As you guys know, too, when we.

[C]

First started and CJ started pointing the camera at us, like, we were like, what? We have to talk. Like, so. Yeah, I mean, it'll get a lot easier for you guys.

[D]

Like, even at the start, just taking a video and posting on your story of your face, it was like, that was hard at first.

[A]

And definitely it's like, yeah, I forgot about those.

[C]

Yeah. Sometimes you have to look at it. Like, even if. Yeah, even if you think you look super weird, just send it. And like, everyone else is just like, you'll get like, one out of the 20 responses you get that would say you look funny doing this and that's it.

[A]

Yeah, I don't even. You get one out of 20. I get a lot more than that, give or take. I. I remember, like, the weirdest thing back. Back when we first, you know, started making videos and. And just watching ourselves on YouTube. What you sound like on camera?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So weird.

[A]

That's like, you're like, damn, that's my voice. Or that's like how I look when I'm not looking.

[C]

And anytime anyone ever says that, I just tell them to get over it. Literally, whenever anyone's like, I hate how I sound on camera, I'm like, get over it. Because you can.

[B]

Because everyone hears your voice anyway.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, you know, like, it is possible to get over it. Like, it's so weird when we, like, let's say we're doing a promo and you're editing yourself. Like you're editing a video of yourself talking basically to you. And it's not even weird anymore. But back in the day, this is the weirdest thing ever.

[D]

Same with us. We're like, when we're behind the booth, like, doing our little dances, it's like, you know, we're vibing to the music. It's like back in the day, I was like, is that really what I'm doing?

[C]

Is this weird?

[D]

Yeah, but like, now it's like, natural.

[C]

It's just, do you guys, like, had. Do you guys ever do brand deals and look, that looks a little different for a DJ versus a YouTuber. But, you know, promos are like, Some sort of. They pay you to wear a shirt while you are spinning.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, we've kind of held off on that for now. Just. Yeah. Really focus on our brand right now. Definitely doing everything we can to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We basically work with, like, our homies if we're gonna make, like, merch or something. Like, we just. Luckily, we know everyone that can kind of have the resources to make stuff happen, so.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the. The hats are sick. Like, it. You definitely need some. Yeah, I was like, we. We were just talking about this, like, how we started merch way too early, but because that is a thing, you know, like, it's like, oh, we. We just got off the ground. We just did our first show. Get the merch.

[B]

It's like, what, so soon?

[C]

But I think in this day and age, you got to have it just a small amount at least to start for people that genuinely want to support you.

[D]

Yeah, that's what we always did. We started just. We did free hats, and we'd throw them out at the shows, and, you know, everyone would try. And people love the house was actually especially.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

We ever sold any merch besides it.

[C]

Especially if it's, like, limited. Like, if basically you come to the show with six of those hats and that's it. Yeah, people are like, I need one of those. I didn't get one at the show.

[D]

Yeah, we did a few that were, like, labeled, like, Spring Tour 2022 and stuff like that. So maybe those will be vintage one day. Yeah.

[A]

Where did Twin Sick come from?

[B]

We got it from. Everyone thinks we're twins.

[D]

We're not.

[B]

Yeah, right. But, like, we literally get that asked to us every single.

[D]

I don't think we've ever. We ever, like, said this on an interview or anything, but we got it from Twin Cities, both from Minneapolis or, like, Minneapolis area. And we were, like, just sitting in a room one day with our homie Mitch and I had a few words written down, and one was twin one. Other one was, like, lost or something.

[B]

We had, like, twin down because we're like twin two. People, like Twin Cities just needed some other word to go. At the end of it, we came.

[D]

Up with twin sick. It's just.

[C]

It's good.

[D]

Easy to remember, easy to spell. Yeah.

[C]

Easy to say.

[D]

Thinking back now, it's like, what would I have done different? I have no idea.

[B]

Like, that's the hardest thing.

[A]

How? Dude, we say that all the time.

[D]

We say that.

[A]

Like, how did Seaboys come to be? We're from Cormorant. When we were a group of friends.

[B]

A bunch of dudes.

[A]

All of. All of our surrounding friend or like friends outside of our main group would be like, hey, I'm going to hang out with the. The Cormorant Boys because of our group where we all grew up in Cormorant.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And. Yeah. And then it just became, yeah, I'm going to hang this one girl, man. She. She deserves a little equity for this one. She started just calling us the Sea Boys, and we were like, don't call us that. I think at first we didn't.

[C]

Yeah, at first we didn't like it, and then we were like, well, it's cool to have a name. And then I think the. The best part is, is that the. The debate came down whether or not our YouTube name should have a hyphen in it or not. It really did.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

It really did. And.

[A]

And then. And then it.

[D]

It.

[C]

And then Ken.

[A]

It never did.

[C]

Without asking. No, he changed it and he added a hyphen. And then we were all like, why'd you change it without asking? He's like, I just thought it needed a hyphen. And then. Well, it doesn't.

[A]

C.J. was gonna murder Ken. I remember that. He was so mad. Doesn't need a hyphen. And you can't change the channel name without talking to us on the tv.

[D]

But we gotta.

[B]

Those, like, hands over your details matter so much.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it does. It does. But in hindsight, you know, obviously it's. It's our brand and. And we made it our brand. But, like, what. What would it be if it wasn't that? Would it be a successful, memorable, easy to spell or see or, you know, recognize when you saw it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Who knows? But also, names don't really mean until you build a brand around it.

[B]

Yeah. If you think of GJ names, they're so stupid.

[D]

There's some.

[C]

Some of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Copy, like in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. C.J. is saying you don't want to copy other people's names too, because then you're just constantly affiliated with them. We see. We see something Boys TV all the time now.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know which is always flattering, but it's like, yeah. I just tell them, hey, you are going to want to come up with a different name because that one is just like ours. And we will almost always shadow you.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And, yeah. Just push people to be, like, a little more original with it. But there's something about, like, once you have your name locked in and you like it and if you like it, then just push it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What's your DJ name? Lil Zip Thai.

[D]

No, I, I think it would.

[C]

I think I would just go by like Sandman.

[D]

That's a good one.

[B]

That's good. That is pretty fire.

[A]

Damn, that's fire, bro.

[B]

Make the SoundCloud right now.

[A]

Yeah, like I can already hear the music that you'd be dropping.

[D]

Get the Instagram.

[C]

I. I've made one. I made one mix on SoundCloud and it's like about nine out of ten in the EDM hard scale and so like pretty hard. Like Ben would listen to it and go, wow, this isn't too good.

[A]

Pop up the. The album art though. It's pretty fire. Actually.

[D]

I made some album that's funny, fun.

[B]

The original album art for. Because I used to make like mashups. It was so bad. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. I literally my like logo everything. I had no idea what I was doing. It was terrible. Together I would do like these cringy overlays, like galaxy like above. Like that's.

[A]

I feel like it's like all edm like album art.

[C]

I'm pretty sure like the, the one album art I made has like a galaxy theme.

[D]

Of course.

[C]

Mike, you got 264 plays. Not bad. Keep in mind this is an hour long mix. So like, or whatever, blow it up.

[A]

We're going to go blow it up. Mike, you got to change your SoundCloud name to SANS.

[B]

This is the start.

[C]

This is the style of love going on there.

[A]

This is the start of pushing Mike away. Go follow your dreams, bro.

[C]

One new play this week. Yeah. What?

[D]

See I.

[A]

The.

[C]

The only reason I haven't pursued it is because like, can't risk getting good, too good at it.

[D]

Maybe we do this summer party. You can open up.

[A]

Oh dude.

[B]

You could learn how to DJ in like two weeks. Yeah, 100.

[C]

That'd be a really, really fun like video bit and a goal. If we do make that happen, I will open up for. For, for whatever we want to call it. But have you, have you guys seen the. The Cody Ko video?

[D]

I just watched that.

[C]

It's pretty funny. And he also kind of does the same thing. Obviously he's been making music for a little while now, but he just like goes to show how easy. But also like he showed the awkward parts pretty well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Also he had Dylan Francis backing him up. So.

[D]

Yeah, that was pretty cool.

[B]

I mean, yeah, like we started off, we were not playing like that was like a legit show. That he had. So that's like, impressive. Yeah. You can just go in for that crowd like that for the first time. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. It is different. Like where we say, like, our atmosphere at a club versus, like, I would say, like a theater. Like when you're just like the more visible you are to a crowd, it makes you feel different as well. So, like, he was very visible. Yeah, he's like.

[B]

He was up there. He was like, talking to the mic like normal. He was just having a casual conversation with the people.

[C]

I know what to do. He was like, scared a little bit.

[D]

He's like, I thought I was gonna be in the corner.

[A]

Imagine being a dj. You know, most time you're behind a booth or behind like a wall, right? But imagine being a DJ and your little soundboard is just up on like a music stand. Like, remember in like band class or like choir, like just a music stand. And it's just right there. And you're just stand there. You just like. So you can see your legs the whole time in your knees.

[D]

That be good. That be good.

[B]

You guys play?

[A]

Yeah, I was in percussion.

[B]

I. I played trumpet. Same.

[A]

I. You think that you got your kind of like your beat, your. Your sense of rhythm from percussion?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that went into making music and having good rhythm.

[B]

100. I used to play piano. Like, I took the whole, like piano lessons and stuff when I was a kid. And then I did drums and then I did percussion in high school or middle school.

[A]

Dude, that's crazy. I used to take. I took piano for like eight years.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Never got good at it though.

[C]

We just got an Amber Amber alert here. Missing child from Lakeville, Minnesota.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[D]

That's where I went to high school.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys both went to Lakeville, did you guys?

[B]

I went to a diner.

[D]

I got it too.

[C]

Heck, it's super weird and like so ironic that it was from.

[B]

I thought that my phone was ringing.

[C]

So.

[A]

Yeah, I took piano for like eight years and I hated every minute of it, bro. I never figured out how to play the piano without one. Like reading the music. But I never practiced. I never had any ambition to do it.

[B]

Same.

[A]

Some people do, some people don't. And I just like, after eight years, I was like, mom, this is so dumb. I'm just wasting eight years time and money here.

[B]

Yeah, same. I would like hate piano just because of the practicing, like you said. And then I was like, mom, I want to quit. So I quit and then just made my own piano stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you. You played Drums, though.

[B]

I played drums, too. Yeah, I did drum lessons, which I thought that was more helpful and, like, interesting because that gets you the rhythm. Right. It's like DJing. A lot of it is, like, all rhythm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You got to know it. But, I mean, it's cool. Like, I can kind of play guitar a little bit. We'll throw some guitar stuff in our guitars. I wish I knew how to play.

[A]

It better, but both my siblings were really, really good at either singing or playing the guitar. My sister was a good singer. My brother was a singer and guitar, and. And then it was just me back there, like 8 years old, just ripping the drums.

[B]

Right. Drums are hard. I think the drums are the dopest.

[A]

They are the dopest. If you can. If you can hop on a drum set and just shred it, people are, like, pretty sick.

[C]

As nerdy as it is to say, Ben's been on a kick where he's calling everybody nerds. So this. He's going to call me a nerd for this. If you are in high school or whatever, middle school, you should, like, play. Play in the band.

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's pretty fun.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They don't ask a whole lot of you. You. If you have a natural talent, you don't even really have to practice.

[B]

I would never practice. And I would always get stuck with the triangle.

[A]

What?

[D]

What?

[B]

Like, for percussion, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everyone had different parts. We'd have, like, six guys, like, in, like, percussion, and I. They would always get, like, the cool, like, snare parts or like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The timpani.

[B]

Like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. Like the vibraphone or whatever. And I'd get, like, the triangle in the back.

[A]

That was still a little bit better than just being the symbol.

[C]

I mean. Yeah, I was gonna mention that.

[B]

I was like.

[C]

But if you put in the very little practice and pick percussion, you'll be playing the triangle. Yeah, the glockenspiel.

[A]

The glockenspiel, yeah. You guys remember having to go to, like, like, one on one lessons, though?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, like in. In percussion, bro. Like, being pulled out of class.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

To go to the lesson.

[B]

Did you have those things where you had to, like, perform one on one and, like, get, like, judged? That was terrifying.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That was so scary. I'd. I remember, like, sitting in, like, a line like all the other band kids, and, like, one by one, you'd go in the room and, like, they'd grade you on the spot and, like, give you feedback. I was terrified by that. I remember my friends would always come. Like, we'd Go to the football games. I didn't do a marching band, but, like, they'd come in at halftime, be like, fuck that. That was so annoying. They'd watch the game, like, with their full band fit, like, from the stands in the student section.

[C]

And that is why you might get called a nerd.

[A]

Yeah. To be fair, Mike, I'm only calling people nerds that are nerds.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of put that in your mouth.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I wouldn't call these guys nerds. They're cool dudes.

[B]

I would kind of got to be.

[A]

Cool dudes like this.

[D]

We're nerds.

[B]

Computer computer nerds.

[D]

Music nerds, anything. DJ nerds.

[A]

Yeah, they might be.

[C]

Yeah, music nerds.

[B]

I mean, honestly, like. Like, I tried to do, like, computer science stuff like that. I couldn't get it. But, like, making music is pretty. Like, it's. Yeah, it's pretty intense.

[D]

Science.

[C]

Any program you can use pretty much like now, like, if you go into Photoshop, you can learn 1% of it or 100% of it, and it's crazy.

[B]

You can learn it all on YouTube, too. That's how I learn.

[A]

Same kind of deal with editing videos, too. You know, you can obviously put in time to figure it out, but, like, if you just sit down and try and just do it right away without any direction, it's pretty difficult to figure out 100%. Like, anything. You figure it out over time. And I was joking about you guys standing up there not doing anything. I don't. I don't want to sound like a dick. Obviously, I'm making a joke about that.

[B]

You definitely.

[A]

I don't want the Tik Tok comments. If anyone doesn't, we're going to come in.

[B]

We're going to be known as the fake dj.

[A]

No, no, no. You guys are the. You guys are the real deal. Otherwise, everyone would. Would be doing it. Yeah, because I was going to say, dude, what would be better than traveling around making music with one of your best homies and then going and seeing the world?

[C]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, and that was a question I was actually going to ask. We are going to start doing a lot more traveling. Where do you guys recommend that we go after seeing so much of the States, but even abroad and stuff?

[B]

Like, are you talking the States or abroad?

[A]

Either one. Either one. And you. You guys kind of know us.

[B]

Like, you guys would have fun. I think. Arizona.

[A]

Arizona.

[B]

I think you guys. Arizona.

[D]

I mean, we're going to. We're going to Mexico. We're going to Tijuana, Cabo Maybe.

[B]

I don't know. Oh yeah, Puerto Verde.

[D]

Yeah, we're going there. So. I mean, I've never been to Mexico, but we'll let you know how that goes. And then we're doing. Can't be bad Dominican.

[B]

So now the bar, the bar scene in like Arizona, like Scottsdale, it's. It's super sick.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. Can you do like a lot of action stuff down there?

[D]

Like this desert.

[B]

Desert, yeah.

[D]

Good time.

[A]

Yeah, we swung through Arizona last year. But we're gonna do another RV tour coming up probably next month. We're actually gonna have a meeting after this and plan it, but just go hit like the whole west.

[B]

Are you guys big, like city guys? You like to go in the city or. No?

[C]

Well, yes and no. We like to experience it, but it wouldn't be our first choice.

[B]

Yeah, because I was gonna say New York. New York's always fun.

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[C]

That's definitely on my bucket list.

[B]

New York's always fun. I mean it's like the clubs there, just unreal. You can go till 6am where's your guys favorite spot?

[A]

Floor is cool. I don't know. I. I always liked like Salt Lake City area, especially for being a YouTuber. There's like. And that's why so many YouTubers live there is. You're so close to so many different things and you can do so much there.

[D]

It's only been there once.

[A]

It's. It's really cool. I don't know if it, if it would work for you guys quite as much with the party scene. Because they're all Mormons there. Yeah. They don't booze.

[B]

But we were asked to do this.

[D]

Oh gosh.

[B]

This like it was like Mormon party, high school party or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like these kids would rent out this like 30 million dollar house, just this mansion. And there'd be just these Mormon kids just pulling up. And we were asked to DJ it.

[C]

A lot of them.

[A]

What was the party?

[B]

It was like a Halloween Project X. Project X. Like, and it was like massive. We were like sober.

[D]

So sober.

[B]

Like we weren't allowed to have. Like we got the contract before we didn't end up doing it. But we like no booze. Like no swearing in the songs. Like, yeah, super strict. And we're like, why? Like why are we the ones that are doing this party? Like our brand is like.

[C]

You're thinking there's got to be some, some DJs out there that can handle a completely sober show that also embody that maybe yeah.

[A]

It's like every song go without boozing for one night. But no swearing.

[D]

Right. I don't think they ended up having anyone.

[A]

So the thing that's really.

[C]

You didn't do it?

[B]

No, no, we didn't do it.

[D]

I think they just had a friend dj.

[A]

But the Mormons are. I like, as an outsider, you'd be like, man, that. No boozing at like a project type party. Like, it doesn't even sound like a party. But to them it's like, no, it's. It's normal. I don't know what it like to booze. So they, they go hard and like they're just energized off of like the love of the game. 100 and they're just energized off of like their homies being together. And like I follow a bunch of different people that just so happen to be Mormon. And they're always like partying. But I know they're not boozing, which is crazy.

[B]

But I mean, crazy props to them.

[A]

Yeah. Seriously.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a healthy way to have a good time.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Loving the music and loving the vibes of their friends.

[A]

They're dancing and.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's like the main 30 million dollar house.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It was massive.

[B]

It was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It was mind blowing.

[A]

I don't know if, if you guys get that opportunity again, 100. You might have to take that because it'd be pretty interesting to see content.

[B]

We could get from that too.

[A]

And you could have.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

30 million dollar house. Yeah.

[D]

A bunch of 16 year olds throwing the party.

[B]

My question is like, how, how do they rent that? I try to rent like an Airbnb with like five of my friends and we get in trouble for that. Like, how do they run that?

[A]

Might be one of their. One of theirs, one of their parents. You guys could do like bar mitzvahs or something like that too. I'd imagine there's a ton of money in bar mitzvahs.

[D]

Yeah, I'm sure we will. Yeah. We haven't, we haven't done many private parties.

[B]

Besides, like, they're kind of fun just because it's like different.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

You're gonna get paychecks, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

As well.

[C]

A bar mitzvah to me does not sound that fun unless the paycheck was right.

[A]

How old are bar mitzvah is that? 15.

[B]

I think it's like. Yeah, I think it's like 15.

[A]

I feel like these 15 year olds would be just getting lit.

[B]

We'd have to play all tick tock songs.

[A]

Yeah, Everything to it. Like, they would be so lit at.

[B]

That age when it's like, young. Like, we've done, like, some, like, high school parties and stuff. Like, they, like mosh pit. They, like, open up the pit.

[D]

I love that.

[B]

And, like, get in a circle and they put like one kid in the middle and then they hype them all up and then everyone just runs in the middle. It's like that doesn't happen at a club or anything, but it happens at every single. Like, yeah, like high school.

[C]

There's definitely not enough people to have a mosh pit.

[D]

It's funny, too.

[A]

I get you guys fired up up there, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's funny when we play a song that, like, doesn't seem like we're too young for, we're too old for. And, like, the kids just have no idea what we're playing. It's like a sing along that, like, you think everyone would know.

[B]

And then they. Yeah, and we just, like, laugh and.

[C]

You'Re like, oh, well, I guess not that one then.

[A]

Nothing else in that way.

[D]

Yeah, no, you can't really switch just like that. Like, you got to kind of just.

[B]

Got to own it.

[C]

No. Right? Yeah, you lay into the next one. But yeah, very nice. You guys got to literally get up to Canada.

[B]

Going to Canada, the best.

[C]

Getting through the border.

[A]

Appreciate it.

[C]

Shouldn't be too hard, but. And again, you guys invited us to the show. We have some filming to do this weekend, but it would be a lot of fun.

[B]

We'll make one happen.

[A]

We'll do it.

[B]

We'll do a party this summer.

[D]

Yeah. Something. Yeah. All right, guys. Guys, thanks for having us.

[A]

Go follow these guys on Instagram. Listen to their SoundCloud, Spotify. What else? Where do you send people?

[D]

Spotify, TikTok, Instagram, everything, Everything.

[A]

Go blow them up. Twin Sick. Appreciate you guys for coming. Keep an eye out for them. They're going to be huge. Guarantee it and appreciate you guys. Subscribe and we'll see you next time.

[D]

Ladies.