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Ryan
This might actually be the best invention I have ever seen.
Ben
Ev. Don't say ever, but go on ever.
Ryan
Snowplow, but for your hitch. And you just drive in reverse.
Ben
And the person doing it right now is in a Ford like Explorer. And they look kind of goofy, but it does.
Ryan
It does.
Ben
But their driveway isn't super big and it's actually working.
CJ
But what is the benefit to having on the rear and then having to drive in reverse?
Ryan
Because.
Ben
Right.
CJ
You don't.
Ryan
It's. It's on a Ford Explorer right now. I can't see this car with a front snowplow. So it's like making the best of having.
CJ
Oh, it's a hitch.
Ryan
Yeah.
Ben
So no, like, cutting or installing really needed. You just pop it in.
Ryan
That's crazy, actually.
Ben
Wow. Us Minnesotan Midwesterners are pumped about that, man.
Ryan
The future is here and we just had a snow day.
Jamie
You want to know what I'm pumped about? Yeah.
Ben
Starting a podcast. Number 58.
Jamie
Not only that, but getting a official Jamie cam. Cut to Jamie.
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Jamie
Wave to the people. A little thumbs up. Big Ken's got his own mic, his own camera.
Ryan
Ken.
Jamie
Now that's so officially a part of the podcast. We've been reading you guys comments and, I mean, we've been wanting to do it for a while, but the budget was really tight with all the ads that Ryan was doing, so.
CJ
So they finally paid off.
Jamie
They finally paid off. Yeah, no, we. We. We put the money to use and got a mic and a camera.
Ken
We finally read enough bluechew ads.
CJ
Yep.
Jamie
Yep.
CJ
So speaking of, dude, that scared me.
Jamie
You wanna know what's crazy is the other day, I was actually just sitting with Ryan. It was just me and him on the couch watching.
Ryan
He tried getting you to take one.
Jamie
Well, he goes like, hey, I'd look. Next thing I know, he's hitting me with an ad.
Ben
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Jamie
No camera, nothing. Just reading him right to me. I was like, bro, dude, it's just me and you. Like, you don't gotta do this right now.
Ryan
Like dudes in autopilot.
Ben
That's so funny. I mean, yeah. I look over. Have you played fishing class yet? And then you're like, no. Why? And then just full 60 second spiel.
Ryan
Bro. Ryan, can. Can we be honest here?
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
So you keep wearing these shirts.
Ken
Yeah.
Ryan
And I know you go out of your way.
Jamie
No.
CJ
You don't think they're funny.
Jamie
That's.
Ryan
Okay, let me finish.
Ben
Okay.
Ryan
I don't understand any of them.
Ben
Oh, come on.
Ryan
Like the last one, the Ill. And like, Illinois. That's what it was.
Ben
I never even saw that one. Oh, wow.
CJ
Technically, I think you say it's Illinois, but.
Ryan
Okay, so what. What is this?
Ben
Can we get a read on that?
Ryan
Every single podcast, Ryan wears a different shirt. And each shirt is like kind of a meme shirt or is like, supposed to be funny, but supposed to be.
Jamie
You would download a crappy JPEG of a monkey some dork paid $2 million for.
Ben
Oh. Oh. It's a hit on, like, NFTs and stuff like that.
CJ
But this is the font and setup of, like, in the early 2000s, mid 2000s, when they trying to say you wouldn't steal.
Ben
Like, There's a pirate DVD.
CJ
Yeah, it was pirate. It was for pirating DVDs, and it was basically saying, like, you wouldn't steal a pair of shoes. And it was like, copy or stealing? Copywriting. Copyright infringement is stealing.
Jamie
Yeah.
CJ
And it was just kind of like the whole thing trying to tell the Internet that copyright is a thing, which.
Ben
Everyone took as a total joke.
CJ
Yeah, it just turned into a big meme, but apparently not big enough for you to understand it.
Ryan
I guess I was just too young for it, honestly.
CJ
This. This one takes a little bit of thought. I have another one down there that's a dog locked in a car and it says, I love hot dogs.
Ben
Pretty easy to understand, too.
Ryan
Have you guys ever seen the Spotify show on Netflix? It's like the start of Spotify, basically. Well, it shows, like, basically the whole story of how Spotify started and then where they are now. Before Spotify came into the market, it was basically all pirating.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
And this guy was like, basically just pirating all of his music and stuff. And he was like, I think there's like a market for this. And then it just shows, like, music. Yeah, for illegal music.
Ben
A market for, like, having songs on your phone at all times or access to. I don't know.
CJ
You guys remember having to buy songs for like A$25. Like, new ones would be a dollar.
Jamie
Well, they used to be 99.
Ryan
And then they got sent.
Jamie
No, it was a $29. Yeah, but I remember when they added that extra technically $0.30 onto it as a kid, I was like, that hurts. That. That's too much.
Ben
Yeah, that's kind of.
Ryan
When you like, that is too much.
Jamie
And then you had to find alternative ways, like Limewire. You had to resort to stealing. Yeah, no, Limewire was long gone.
Ben
Yeah, it was a little.
Jamie
I use it a bit like that was long gone. Prior to them changing the rate of buying a song on Apple Music. But dude, listening to itunes or just music in general and when you had to pay individually for the song, it was like you would really put a lot of thought into it at least. I was like, do I really like this song? Yeah, well I like this song. In a week, like a year you put a lot of thought and you're like 99 cents for the song. And now things are different. Debate.
Ben
Thank you.
Jamie
The best they've ever been. The most balanced with obviously you pay.
Ryan
Do you think it's more lucrative now? Like the artists are making more money now?
Jamie
Yeah, I don't know.
Ben
They have to be because I'm downloading.
Jamie
A lot more than 10 songs a month and like that'd be technically $10 back in the day of 99 cent songs.
CJ
They aren't.
Ken
But no, there's no way they're not making money streaming.
Ryan
They should be.
Ken
They are.
Jamie
But they used to do CDs prior to that and that had to have been lucrative.
Ben
CDs?
Jamie
Yeah, CDs.
Ryan
Records before that.
Ben
Ben.
CJ
There was records?
Jamie
Yep.
CJ
Somewhere in between that there was like.
Ryan
There was tracks I guess with, with.
Ben
CD sales you gotta buy the whole.
Jamie
It was like otherwise you just had to listen to the radio and you know, you hope for that song to come on. But I mean realistically I would imagine that you're. And they're still probably making a shit ton of money. Probably less money a day. Don't quote me because I really don't know. But that's what I would imagine.
CJ
So back in 1980, artists were making around like $15 billion off of the eight track vinyl and cassettes.
Ben
Wow.
CJ
It goes through a dip up until about the 1990s when cassette comes in and takes it over and brings it back up. Then CD kind of starts filling this chart and then Napster peaks it in like 1999 at $22.7 billion of revenue. And this is not adjusted for inflation. I don't believe so. And then after that it steeply declines to 2015 where streaming starts to pull a little bit of money back. But they're still not even close to they were prior.
Ryan
Dude.
Jamie
So I actually had Napster as a kid prior to having itunes. Cuz I didn't have a ipod or a Zoom. So Zoom was Microsoft's version of an ipod.
Ryan
Zoon.
Jamie
Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. Zoom like Zoom Zoon. Oh, it was a Zoom.
Ken
It's Zune, like Dune with a Z.
Jamie
Okay, well it was a Zune so I, I Didn't have one, so I didn't know how to even pronounce it. But anyways, I. I'm pretty sure Napster went with Zune. But you could also use Limewire, which was like a pretty iconic illegal downloading website for. For music. It was all free, but it would poison your computer with viruses. Napster wouldn't do that. And it was free, so you could listen to the music and download songs to your computer and all this stuff and even music videos for free. But if you wanted to put them onto your Zune or your ipod or whatever the hell you were going to connect it to, then you had to pay. Like, I think it was 15 bucks a month, which is quite a bit of money back in like the early 2000.
Ryan
Yeah, like, I was unlimited.
Jamie
It was unlimited. So as a kid that didn't have either of them, I would go, like, I would go skateboard in the morning. I remember this as a kid, I'd go skateboard out in my driveway and then I would go downstairs and I would hop on the computer and I would watch music videos and listen to music and play Runescape.
CJ
Runescape was so lit.
Ben
That's awesome.
Ryan
Okay, how were companies like Napster like, Operating?
Jamie
They got sued.
Ryan
Okay.
Jamie
So it did catch up to them.
Ryan
So it did.
Jamie
And then I believe that same guy who created Napster teamed up with Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook. Am I wrong?
CJ
Really? I'm not 100% certain.
Jamie
I. I think they had some kind of run in. Maybe. We got to double check that. Ken, is that true?
Ken
J. Kenny, I'm actually looking at something else.
Jamie
Ken was the guy that created Napser and Mark Zuckerberg the creator of Facebook. Did they have some. There was an interaction, I thought even in the. In the movie on Mark Zuckerberg, they meet and I thought they did some kind of business together.
Ryan
I'm not the.
Jamie
Or does he pass up on.
CJ
You are the person.
Jamie
You're Jamie, so look it up.
Ben
He just asked you not to call him Jamie, though.
Jamie
You're Kenny, so look it up.
CJ
My mom listens to this podcast, unfortunately, and she is going to actually probably call me immediately and freak out.
Ben
I was going to tell that story. That's really funny.
CJ
No, this is a different story.
Ben
Oh, up.
Ryan
Mike. You've only been a part of the family for a couple months, buddy. You can't just be hopping on Ryan stories like this.
Ben
This is a story about. Of Ryan.
Ken
It's been going on for years.
Ben
It's not even a story. Basically. I just remember when Ryan Was like, dude, my. I've been like, been charging 10 bucks a month to my mom's Napster for Napster for like three, four or five years.
CJ
The most recent.
Jamie
Have to be a lot more than five years, bro.
CJ
1999 or nineteen nine. 99amonth. Every month. And the last one that I have on my phone is 2020. But they've been coming through more than that. Can't figure out how to cancel it. You go on your bill. Yeah, you go on your bill and it's like not there. And then we go, can we cancel this? And then every week or every month we get.
Jamie
That's like, on your phone. I'm pretty sure the guy was a con artist, dude.
CJ
Some guy probably somewhere is just like, picked up that bank account number and is just getting to my. 10 bucks a month.
Ken
You've had that since you were in high school?
Ben
Yeah. Like, so.
CJ
Ringtones.
Jamie
It's still going?
CJ
No, it looks like it ended last year.
Jamie
Yeah.
CJ
Wow.
Jamie
And okay. Fell off.
Ryan
When do you think you started that? Let's just say it was going for at least 10 to 15 years.
CJ
I would say no. I mean, probably when I was like 14. So I'd say, yeah, good. Like seven years of Napster and I don't remember using it ever.
Ben
That's insane. So I still. I mean, they are. Clearly we're getting their monthly rate, but, like, I don't get how they. Like, that was the peak of paying music artists. Yeah, Like Napster.
CJ
Napster did pay. Did people, though.
Ben
I guess they must.
Jamie
That seems like Napster came. That chart. Looks like Napster came in and then took it all down. Yeah, because I think a lot of the artists sued him because they were like, you stole our music and gave.
Ryan
It away for free.
Ken
This is it. This is in present tense. But Napster pays an average of 1.9 cents per stream.
CJ
Shit. Figure out what it is now. I bet you 1.9.
Jamie
So that's what they were making. I don't think they were paying.
Ryan
How much is a stream per Spotify? That's.
CJ
I feel like it's got to be way less than a penny. Yeah, Napster was giving it to him.
Ryan
Good.
Ken
Dude, even if they're paying 10 bucks a month at 1.9 cents a song, how do they still make money?
Jamie
That's what I'm saying is like, how does Apple iTunes make money? Because I'm downloading like 100 songs a month and I'm paying 7.99.
Ryan
I'm sure it's just like anything like, you probably lose money on the people that download a bunch. And then you make money on the people, like, average consumption of music. You're probably not downloading that much music.
Ben
So you're still like, downloading it to your phone.
Jamie
Or it's just worth it to keep up with the other brands or sites or apps.
Ben
It is.
Jamie
Keep people buying iPhones, whatever.
CJ
But say, think about it, dude. If they were paying $0.01. And think how many streams did, like, Lil Baby have this year? He had, you know, like 20 billion streams. Do the math on that. That's still, what, like a couple hundred million dollars off of just streaming.
Ryan
Yeah. Or it's their stock price. Like when Spotify picked up Joe Rogan's podcast for a hundred million dollars, their stock price went up. Don't quote me on this, but I think it was like $2 billion worth, like. Like their overall worth.
Jamie
So it.
Ryan
Maybe it's just that, like, where they. It's kind of a wash on the actual streaming side of things.
CJ
I bet they're still making money on the streaming.
Jamie
This.
Ken
This website's actually saying Napster pays the most out of all the platforms. It says they pay.
Ryan
They're just working.
Ken
$15.82 per thousand streams, $16 CPM per thousand.
Jamie
Pretty damn good.
Ken
Apple Music pays 783. Spotify is.
Ryan
We start uploading our videos.
Jamie
60 cents.
Ben
YouTube is 60 cents per thousand views, I guess, man, that makes myself 16 bucks per thousand views. And if you had a song, keep in mind, it'd have to blow up on freaking Napster. 16 bucks. Yeah.
Jamie
What up, guys?
CJ
Go listen to this podcast on Napster.
Ryan
Napster. A hell of a plug there, Ryan.
Jamie
You just gave me ptsd. I thought you're going in the advert.
CJ
I put on my podcast.
Jamie
I was like, what the hell? Is there an ad placed within my headphones?
CJ
We're about running up to that point, so let's just run it here.
Ryan
Ryan starts running ads in our headphones.
Ben
This is just like. I mean, I know we don't really care too much about this, but Megan Thee Stallion just came out and said that basically that Tory Lane shot at her, which is. This happened in like 2020, but it blew my mind. He basically, like, they came home from the club and. Because Megan Thee Stallion's a pretty big deal.
Ryan
No, no, no. I think he shot her and he shot her foot.
Ben
There were bullet fragments in her foot. That means there. There was. There's no bullet holes in her foot. There's a big difference. Yeah, I mean, it's still bad they got home from the club and like, she was like insulting him and wanted him, like, open the door up and you know, maybe being a. And then just. And then. But then he just like shot the door.
Ryan
No.
Ben
And just said dance, bitch. And shot five times. And yeah, he said dance, bitch. And then like insane. And then he. Apparently he paid her a million dollars or offered her a million dollars to not say anything.
Ryan
I think in the latest Drake song, he says something about Meg the stallion, like, capping.
Jamie
What's the line?
Ryan
Exactly.
Ken
Drake raps this bitch lie about getting shots, but she's still a stallion.
Ryan
Oh, wow.
Ben
Drake is so weird.
Ryan
Thank you.
Ben
Awesome.
CJ
But did you see his thing that he bought a diamond necklace that has like 42 engagement diamonds and it's for the 42 times he wanted to propose.
Ben
42 times.
Ryan
Oddly specific. Just oddly high.
Jamie
Kept track, all that.
Ben
Yeah.
Jamie
That's what I think. After 10, you'd be like, yeah, you know, I was. Felt like I was in love, but it just.
Ben
And bought different rings every single time.
CJ
I think he probably just wanted a really expensive necklace.
Ryan
Yeah. And wanted some reasoning behind it.
CJ
Wanted a good story so people would talk about it.
Ryan
Makes a little bit more sense. You guys think Drake is overhyped?
Jamie
I. I think that his songs are slightly, at least for my taste in music. They're a little slow and like, kind of just too like lovey dovey and. And just a little bit soft like you're trying to get in your feels almost. Which I don't really want to do. But I do think that he's a legend in the fact that everyone else loves him. And clearly I think he's like, got to be one of the highest earning artists.
Ryan
Have you guys seen Drake's plane?
Ben
I was just going to bring that.
Ryan
A charter, like full on 747 Boeing. Yeah.
Jamie
Commercial plane for like 300 passengers. Probably outfitted in just for him.
Ryan
A personal jet.
Ben
And I was going to bring it up because now he's not. He was the only musical artist to have a plane that size.
Jamie
I'm pretty sure they gave it to him.
Ryan
Yeah, I think Boeing gave that to him. Which at the time I remember when I saw that, I was like, man, why would they do that? But now every time I think of Blake. Drake.
Jamie
Don't even remember Blake.
Ryan
Now every time I think of Drake, I'm like, man, I know that he's like, big deal. But then I think of his plane. I'm like, who else just gets gifted a Boeing 747 that isn't like the greatest of all times in the eyes of, like, the masses. Because nobody else has has that. Nobody else has been gifted something like that. So maybe it's just like me conforming to the rest of society thinking that way. But I'm like, yeah, no, he is probably a goat because of that.
Ken
It was a gift from the Canadian air cargo carrier. Cargo jet. It was used, so it was like 100 million. It's a seven.
Jamie
They just gave it to him.
Ben
Yeah, I forgot that it was a gift. That's insane because I was just going to say DJ Khaled just posted a video of him, like, plane shopping for basically same size plane as Drake. I'm like, yeah, that's now someone else did it. However, he's got to buy that shit.
Jamie
Dude, I saw that video and I thought to myself, and I'm not even throwing shade, that plane has to cost so much money. So much frigging money. How does he have money to pay for that on top of all the other useless shit he's probably paying for?
Ben
If there's anybody, no offense to him, streaming money, it's got to be DJ Khaled because he just like slapped the DJ Khaled on that. Slap the DJ Khaled on that.
Jamie
When I saw that, all I'm saying is I was like, wow, I had no idea these guys were making this type of money. Yeah, because like, that kind of money is ridiculous to buy the jet. Like, let's say that that jet is 100 million. It's a fuck ton of money, but you got to pay to maintain it, store it, fuel it, fly it. You got to have people to fly it.
Ryan
Yeah, like, I mean, it's just.
Jamie
That would be a nightmare in my opinion.
Ryan
I guess it just goes back to, man, these guys got to be making so much money where it's so easy to justify it because, yeah, it's a headache, but, like, when they got that much money, it ain't a headache for it. I think there is something to be said about, like, DJ Khaled's probably like, I'm the greatest producer of all time. I ain't renting shit. I need myself $100 million jet.
Ben
True, dude. So speaking of planes and also renting stuff, like, we got hit up by this.
CJ
I don't know, just some dude.
Ben
I heard you talking about it too, Ryan. Just some dude that was like, hey, I don't know if he owns it or works for, but this yacht chartering company, basically like renting yachts and went to the page and looked they have 114 pages of rentable yachts and sailboats, and there's 24 on each page. So they have like almost 3,000 yachts around the world that you can rent.
Jamie
So what do you say to us?
Ben
Got to get you guys in for seven days. And I mean, I'm sure like for.
Jamie
Free or we're paying.
Ben
Probably not for free.
CJ
Okay, look at, look at the top result. They sort by most expensive to least expensive.
Ben
This is assuming for seven days. I think they're all kind of just.
Jamie
Around what's it gonna cost? Which I already know.
Ben
I, I have no interest at $945,000. So basically almost a million.
Ryan
Ryan ain't doing it, paying for that. Right, Your ads, Ryan. And they ain't paying for even 1% of it. So we don't even spend a minute.
Jamie
On that fucking boat.
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Jamie
Not even a minute.
Ryan
So we can look at it. Maybe then that one just.
Ben
That one doesn't even look real. Like you look at it and it looks like just. It doesn't look real.
Jamie
So this dude just hit us up, was like, hey, do you want to basically pay to.
Ben
I mean, no, I can read you the email. It's pretty short lived and boring.
CJ
But go to the 114th page and then that's probably more what the ones that.
Ryan
Yes.
Jamie
Pontoon. So 21 foot pontoon.
Ben
Actually not nearly as bad as you'd think.
CJ
But I went all the way to.
Ben
The last page and then looked for the cheapest one. It's $1350 for assuming seven days. And it's a dinghy.
Jamie
1300 bucks.
Ken
Seven days.
CJ
Darn near.
Jamie
It's a Lund fishing boat.
Ryan
It's with a 90 horse on the back.
Ben
It's like a two. Like a two little bedroom, like little mini yacht. Yeah. I was like, for 1350 bucks.
Ryan
Mini yacht. Hold up. Pull up the photo. Pull up the photo.
Jamie
A mini yacht.
CJ
It does all say plus expensive.
Jamie
A pontoon. Oh, so then with a fishing boat on it.
Ben
But that's what I was wondering.
Ryan
Mini yacht. It's a house boat on a pontoon. Dude.
CJ
Evan and I had a great idea when we were searching up houseboats.
Jamie
I was curious, do we want to. I was just about to actually say this. Do we want to spoil it? Because some people like to steal our ideas.
Ben
You can't steal it because it's ours.
CJ
Okay, well, Evan and I were talking about how expensive it is, leaving me out.
Jamie
I was a part of this too.
CJ
Evan and I and cj, we're talking about how expensive it is to live around here.
Jamie
Yeah.
CJ
And Evan said I should just get, like, a houseboat type of deal, and I could park that out in front of the boys, his house really live on.
Ben
Love that.
Ryan
Genius.
Jamie
And I was like, yeah, sandbar. You could move around and be lit.
Ryan
It'd be great.
CJ
And then he brought up a couple stories of ones he'd seen up on bigger lakes, all that. And he goes, you know what?
Ryan
We could.
CJ
We could build one for here. And then what did you say? You go, well, we could just buy a skid fish house and drag it on, and then you could live in that, right.
Jamie
On a flat pontoon.
CJ
On a flat barrels. And I said, what about one better. You take an RV or like a towable RV and you back it onto the pontoon. You build a little deck around it. So then from the water, you got a houseboat.
Ben
Right.
Ryan
This is brilliant.
Jamie
Yeah.
Ben
And then you.
Jamie
Brilliant.
Ryan
I can't believe you guys came up with this.
CJ
You peter on over to the shore.
Ryan
No, no offense.
CJ
You peter on over to the shore, and then you put it up, back the truck down, hook up, go out into the woods for the weekend. Sunday comes around back, right on, you're back on the lake.
Ryan
Is that legal? Maybe.
Ben
Yeah. Like, what if all you had to.
Jamie
Do is register it as a pontoon?
Ben
Yeah. Bolt the tires down or, like, strap the tires to the pond. Yeah, it's all. It's all part of it.
Jamie
So I guess mine's tippy. Yeah, it does sound a little tippy, but it does sound pretty lit. Being right at the sandbar, you're all, you know, doing whatever you do there. You maybe a little. You're a little bit trashed. And then you're like, I can't go home. I'm gonna sleep right there. Within your own house. We go and park it right on the pond, on the track. Evan lives on the motocross track on the water.
Ben
That doesn't sound.
Ryan
The three.
Jamie
That sounds pretty late.
Ryan
We start taxing Evan.
Jamie
Do I really think we're going. Going to put a trailer home on a pontoon and. And have Evan live in it?
Ryan
Yes.
Jamie
Well, but what I did have an idea for was that we should do like a 24 hour or maybe 48 hour. God, I hate houseboat challenge. So we either rent one or we go somewhere that has one that actually. And we go and park that out on the water, middle of summer, and it's all of us, and. And I'm sure one of us will leave because they will be so Goddamn mad by the end of 10 hours of it.
Ryan
That actually kind of sounds nice.
Jamie
It'd be like the igloo challenge, which no one actually folded on that tr.
Ryan
Well, but to date, that was my. One of my least favorite. Actually, no, that was my least favorite video we've ever filmed and made. The 24 hour igloo challenge. I think that to do it properly, that kind of idea, you'd have to do it on like straight up, the smallest boat possible.
Ben
Oh, yeah, like.
Ryan
Like whatever. Make this suck.
Jamie
I want room to like bring the pinball machine with.
Ryan
I. I don't doubt that for a second. I know that you guys couldn't bear to leave.
Jamie
I think it would be awesome. How about we don't try to make it this big suffering thing. How about we just go and have a good time?
Ben
But then it's like, what. What do we put the time limit at is like 48 hours.
Jamie
If we're having good time. Why do you gotta leave? We're having fun. Why are you leaving?
Ryan
Our girlfriends are like, the video is over four days ago. We're just. We're really just trying to challenge ourselves.
Jamie
We're tubing.
Ryan
Yeah.
Ben
If it had like, you know, if it was like a yacht and has jet skis hanging off the side and shit, like, I mean, that would be considered leaving.
Jamie
I'm not going to lie, man, this thing is going to be far from a yacht. Far from a yacht. If we have a small window air for air conditioner, we're going to be living very large.
CJ
Okay. The video is titled, like surviving 72 hours on a Boat. And then the boat is like fricking. It's got jet skis strapped to it and it's got like a full live in bar and bedroom, like old staff.
Jamie
Yeah. This is terrible. I want to get off.
Ben
Count down the time.
Jamie
You want to know something, Ben? You said that the 24 hours in the igloo was the worst video that we filmed to date. For one, I thought that was a lot of fun. And for two, you want to know. I mean, this is a pretty bold statement because I'd really have to look through the probably 400 videos. I don't even know where we're at. But this R6 quad swap that we're currently working on that we weren't even able to drop this week because it. Everything has been such a headache. That is. This is actually my least favorite video as of right now. I know we're probably a third through. It is my least favorite video we've Made.
Ben
And that's the fun thing, bro.
CJ
I, banshee not having fun are the worst two videos I think we've ever made in our YouTube career.
Jamie
It's not our worst video. Worst time making.
CJ
Worst time making.
Jamie
It's going to be a legendary video when it's done. But it's like, we've just spent so much time, you know, we're all kind of sitting around trying to figure out, like, how to, oh, how do we make this work, whatever. And it's just so much time to ultimately be cut down into. Probably, like, we. We spent five days filming so far, and we probably have four minutes of a video just due to, like, the slow process of building this thing. And it has been extremely boring. I told Alex. She asked me how my day was. I said it was boring. She asked me how my day was again. The next day. I said it was boring. She asked me how it was. I said boring. And honestly, I have not had a boring day in a very, very. I don't even. I don't know if I have had a boring day in six, seven years. Like, straight up.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, no, I. I know what you're saying. When I think back to filming that video, just, like, the different emotions that I got from it weren't like, I'm bored, or like, this sucks. Like, I was anxious, and I'm not an anxious person. Very rarely do I, like, tweak on something. But the fact of, like, being underneath that much snow and, like, on the.
CJ
Lake and the on ice was a nice new twist, but there was just.
Ryan
Like, parts to it where it was, like, evoking new emotions out of myself that I didn't even know existed. And I was like, I just want this to be over. I. I'm, like, thinking of the worst possible options, and, like, I'm in such a negative headspace.
Jamie
You were.
Ryan
I was just like. And I hate. I hate being, like, that person or having that, like, mentality on something. I was just like, I just need to, like, start over. This is just not good. I need to get out of this place. And we couldn't. And that's like, well, you could have laughed. I could have. I could have. But, like, that wouldn't have been good.
Jamie
I would have got wrapped pink.
Ryan
Right? And it still did, which is ridiculous. Still so stupid. But, dude, I have so much respect for creators that do these challenges for, like, 48 hours or 50 hours just to, like, meet the title and thumbnail, to like, make it look good.
Jamie
Most of them aren't, like, life Risking, though, like, I will say, but if things did go wrong, it would have been bad.
Ryan
I felt like that igloo challenge was like, kind of like life risking.
Jamie
That was. But most other YouTubers don't have life, life risking challenges.
Ben
Right.
Ryan
And the whole time I just thought, this is not worth it. And it's a waste of our, like, waste of our time. But mostly, like, I hate that we're even risking this because, like, the igloo could have collapsed pretty much at any given point. It would have been bad. It would have been really bad.
Jamie
But it didn't.
Ryan
You're right, it didn't.
Jamie
And alas, it stayed up for another week or two. Even we drove Razor afterwards.
Ryan
Afterwards, we knew that. But like, in the time I was like, this is so stupid. Like, just for like a short term gain. I don't know. That's just kind of like my mentality in the moment. So that's why I look back at it and think, like, the suck wasn't worth it.
Jamie
I. I can respect your mentality of not looking for a short term gain because I'm the same way. I'm all about just it. Like this, this YouTube game or whatever else kind of career you're doing is a marathon, not a sprint. And I feel that. And I think about that every day when we're planning and just navigating our path. But I didn't feel that way in that moment. Yeah, I was thinking, like, if this shit fell right now, it'd be really bad. But I felt pretty comfortable in there. And it was a little scary and I was cold, but for the most part, it was exhilarating. And I like the camaraderie of it and I thought it was really fun. I honestly had a good time. I would do it again, but I just know there's really no point in doing it again because it's like, we can't make a video doing it again and do it better because that was like top of the line. We had a fucking Nintendo Switch, a keg, we had a bar, we had steak. Like, it was pretty awesome. It was legendary, man. It was legendary. It was such a fun time.
Ryan
But that's why I, like, it was.
Jamie
All built by us.
Ben
Yeah, that was sick too. I love the idea you just had with the houseboat thing because it's like, we can't do the igloo again. Like, we could make it bigger and better, stronger, but it's like, what's the transition? And I love that.
Jamie
So how do you feel about instead of being Freezing. Being very, very hot.
Ryan
I can deal with that.
CJ
And mosquitoes.
Jamie
Mosquitoes, big bugs, and possibly the boat sinking.
Ryan
I can always put on a life jacket. Veggie.
Jamie
A life jacket for, like, 48 hours.
Ryan
I would do some of those things. Honestly, like, some things that we do actually kind of tweak me out where, like, I reflect back on. I'm like, man, I was pretty tweaked out on that. Thank God nothing went wrong. But, like, I tried to play it cool. And then afterwards I was, yeah, we've.
Ben
Talked about that before. Where it's like, certain things trip Ryan out that don't trip you out. Certain things don't trip Evan out that trip me out. And just like, it's so funny because we always go, dude, are you seriously tripping out about this right now? And you do this. You're tripping about this and you do that?
Jamie
No, I'd agree with that.
Ryan
I think it's how much time I have to, like, really think about it.
CJ
I feel like the amount of time that you're immersed in, the stress is what gets to you. You can deal with, like, the little bursts of it, but if it's just like a constant looming thing, then that's when, like, being stuck in an igloo, stuff like that, that's when it gets to you.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
Evans is really random. He'll like, Evan, drive a spiked R6, 100 miles an hour, lay the thing down, rev limit, dual wheelie. But, like, if the gas tank doesn't have the right thread bolt in it, he's like, this is ridiculous.
Jamie
He does his little throw him up.
CJ
Yeah, but it just. That's. That's the way it goes. I have things that stress me out for no reason. And I. To go back on that would say that making these videos has been the worst for me because I get stressed about, one, not feeling like we're all utilizing our time. And two, being worried that it's not going to get done. And then three, that when it gets done, it's not going to work. And all those things add up to me and then come out in a negative way.
Ryan
I'd say.
Ben
Very well said. It's like those emotions come out when you have to worry about, okay, the time frame of it getting done. And then, like, when everybody feels the same way. Kind of like you're Googling shit, but.
Jamie
Then you, like, I don't even know Instagram.
Ben
Yeah, no, actually, like, that happens, but also, like. And then maybe there's too many hands in the kitchen at the time. And you're just, like, sitting there staring at it, and nothing's getting solved. That is where.
CJ
That's what just gets, like. Gets you all worked. It gets me all worked up.
Ryan
Yeah.
Ben
It's so stressful, dude.
Ryan
When we have off time, though, man, I love just doing nothing, like, just.
Jamie
Chilling, which is nice to see you.
CJ
Come around to, because there was many years I remember we would not, like, if we were just chilling, like, maybe a year and a half ago, you would, like, stress out. You're like, we should be doing something. There's something we could be doing, right? I'm like, dude, it's okay.
Ryan
Just to be fair, we should have been doing something. Probably we should have been doing something.
CJ
But you can't always do something.
Ryan
But on, like, a Sunday, when me and Greta are just chilling, and she's like, let's do this, let's do this, let's do that. Let's go for a walk or, like.
Jamie
Go and work out.
Ryan
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
CJ
I've been doing things.
Ben
No, I don't want to do that.
Ryan
I don't want to do any of that.
Ben
I want to.
Ryan
I want to chill.
Ben
Now that you said that, I think I'm the opposite. It's, like, still really?
CJ
Yeah, you've always just had a wild amount of energy.
Ben
Like a. Like, on a Sunday, I'm like, yeah.
Jamie
What can we do?
Ben
What is there something to do? There's got to be something to do. But I still like to chill.
Jamie
See, you are a ball of energy, Mike. You're up early in the morning.
Ben
One of those two of those might have been lies.
CJ
No, I feel the. The same way then with the laundry. And I feel so bad because, like, I'll get home from a day here. And I've spent all day talking with you guys. My best friends love it. It's great. But I spent all day talking and doing things, you know, being in the car, driving, being outside. I'm, like, active and socially active. And then I get home, and I'm like, I cannot wait to just watch TV and just. Just unwind a little bit. But she's been cooped up, working at home all day. The only social interaction she gets is with, like, her coworkers on Zoom. And then I'm just like. She's like, hey, how was your day? And I asked all these questions, and I'm just, like, completely burnt out. And I feel really bad. I feel like that's a hard thing for people who live different lifestyles, you know?
Ryan
Yeah, I think Both sides are very relatable.
CJ
It's like a tough balance.
Jamie
Yeah.
Ryan
Totally switching things up. We've been thinking about going into the new year and changing things up around this, the podcast studio here, like doing something different either with the desk or completely getting rid of the desk. We're thinking about just going with couches. Just like kind of making the environment the podcast studio just like a little bit more chill. Yeah. A little bit like more open and free. Less like desky and set up, but.
Jamie
Also more spread out. Where Evan sitting on the couch right now, which you guys can't see if you're watching on YouTube. He would be on camera in a sense.
Ryan
It'd be like very.
Jamie
I kind of like the spread outness. But obviously we haven't made our mind up yet, but we are going to be changing the set. I don't know what we're going to do with this sweet, like, table that we had made. It's really cool, but we definitely got.
CJ
Our use worth but 57 podcast 58.
Ben
I wouldn't be mad about sitting on a couch while talking to you guys. This is great, but if I can lean back.
Ryan
Yeah. I think the thing about the podcast table is it is nice, but it does feel like a little, I don't want to say formal, but if it's in more of like a relaxed setting, like it might be a little bit more like flowing and easygoing almost and like less intimidating if we have like guests or like our friends just sit down just because like being up in Minnesota, as you guys have seen, like, there's very few guests that we can have on here just because like the lack of people that come on. But we're like, we have so many friends that have like interesting stories or just honestly shoot the shit with us. Funny that we're like, do you should come on our podcast and let's just have a good time and like chop it up and then they sit down and it's like feels formal.
CJ
Yeah.
Ryan
You got the lights, you got the cameras. And it's harder to have a conversation versus just sitting on the couch or sitting down in the shop just shooting the shit. So we're trying to think of like, how do we, you know, continue to make these programs but bring on just like our friends to just have conversations with.
Jamie
Yeah, it's just like what we were so before this, we were sitting down, eating, and me, Ben, Evan and our boy Fast was downstairs and we were having this, this really funny, awesome conversation. We're like, damn, this would have been great on the podcast. But, like, you don't ever get into some. Sometimes you don't get into those. Either way, we need more cameras around the room, you know, like, what do you think, Jamie?
Ben
Oh, can't even be mad at the guy. Can't even be mad at the guy. Jamie.
Jamie
Snipe.
CJ
I got a couple more months of weeks of exclusivity. I think, technically, online, I am supposed to be just drinking course.
Ben
Well, good for you.
Jamie
You drink course every day.
CJ
I do.
Jamie
The only thing you drink is. Course you don't drink. Water, milk, pop, nothing.
Ben
My favorite I. I small call out here is because it just cracked me up.
Jamie
When you reach into the fridge, you.
Ben
Grabbed a Mountain Dew, Then you kept the door open with your forearm, grabbed a Coors, looked at them both, put them on.
CJ
It's time. They both look good, you know? Want to know the actual thing that was going on in my head is I recently started drinking apple crown and Mountain Dews, and I was like, I'm gonna mix up an apple crown and Mountain Dew. And then I was like, that might be a little extreme for right now. So then I grabbed a beer instead. Darn good.
Jamie
A lot of sugar.
CJ
There's a lot of sugar.
Jamie
You know, it is funny, though, I will say, with going back to the podcast, the amount of people that listen to it that are actually, like, you know, associates of us. I was going to say real people, acquaintances is alarming. Like, I'll go places, and now they'll be like, yeah, like, you know, your guys's issue with the mechanic, like, and if you ever get that solved, I'm like, did I tell you about this? Did you, like, well, you know, on the last podcast, I'm like, you listen to the podcast? And they're like, yeah, yeah, I listen to everyone. I'm like, oh, my. Okay. Oh, my. I got it straightened up on there.
Ryan
Greta's mom listened to. I don't know if it was a couple of them, but the My dad podcast.
Ben
Oh.
Ryan
And I was just thinking back, like.
CJ
Oh, man, we're good in that one.
Jamie
Don't go back any further. Yeah.
Ryan
So the other day, Greta's brother got held at gunpoint and robbed in the cities.
Ben
What?
Ryan
Yeah.
Jamie
Jesus.
Ryan
Yeah, dude. On the U of M campus.
CJ
Oh, her little brother.
Ben
That is not cool. No, I was hoping you were gonna say, like, in Mexico or something.
Ryan
Like, no, dude, in Minneapolis.
Ben
No, but it's a lot more likely to happen. And I don't know, maybe not.
Ryan
Anyway, yeah, he was walking into his frat house just, like, Literally behind the house.
Jamie
It was the other frat, wasn't it?
Ben
Oh.
Ryan
And yeah, some guy was like, I hope I'm not, like, outnumber.
Jamie
Like.
Ryan
Like, they're upset that I'm, like, telling the story. I just think it's, like, crazy. And it kind of just shows, like, where everything has kind of gone to shit. But especially, you know, close to us. It didn't feel like Minnesota would, like, be like this. But yeah, he was, like, walking to his frat house, and this guy put down his window and was like, come here. And, you know, what do you do when you're in an alley? It was like a short. Like a tiny little alleyway. And he goes up to the window, and the guy pulls out a gun, points it at him, and he's like, give me your phone in your wallet. Makes him open up his phone, give the code, and then go into icloud and delete his icloud. So, like, the phone isn't trackable.
CJ
Gosh.
Ryan
And then he couldn't remember the code, so he, like, had him tell him, like, five times and was like, I'm going to sell the phone, like, I need to know the code. And then thankfully let him go. Yeah.
CJ
Who knew that forgetting your icloud password, which happens every time, would come in handy? So did you not take his phone?
Ryan
No, he took his phone. Oh, no, he took his phone. He took his wallet, took everything.
CJ
Oh, I thought he gave it back, his phone back to him because he couldn't figure out the code.
Ryan
No, no, no. The guy couldn't remember his phone code.
Jamie
Oh.
Ryan
So he asked him like, five times.
CJ
What a fucking idiot. Gotta be on top of this type of stuff. You're doing armed robbery in an alley.
Ryan
Something tells me the guys doing armed robberies and alleys aren't the smartest guys to remember codes.
CJ
But anyway.
Ryan
Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
CJ
In on campus or just off campus? Yeah, I mean, house is right on campus.
Ryan
Yeah.
CJ
That is so messed up.
Ben
Was it like someone his age? Our age?
Ryan
No, he said he was, like an older guy, and I guess, like, the cops have been watching him, and there's like, video cameras of the incident and everything, but, like, he was in an unmarked car. Didn't have license plate.
CJ
Oh, no plates.
Ryan
He's just driving around. And now he's, like, at. You know, at large, technically. Like, he's probably still doing the same shit. So when that happened, me and Greta started looking at, like, the crime reports in the cities, and, dude, that's just like, one of 50 things that happened that day, right?
CJ
Yeah, probably that hour.
Jamie
Small, I'm sure, in the scale of it. Which not to even try to minimize it, but that's crazy. Like, that's got to be pretty scarring, obviously, having a gun pointed at you. You don't know. You don't know if the guy's gonna pull the trigger.
Ryan
Right.
Jamie
And thank God he didn't, obviously.
Ben
I guess it's definitely gonna make him more careful. I mean, I'm not saying walking, that's no, but I'm just saying, like, I.
Ryan
Don'T think it's just your living, like, situation.
Ben
Yeah, it's the worst. But I was like, if that's what it is going to be in Minneapolis, then that's what it's going to be. And I'm just like, hopefully he's got his guard up. I don't want that to him to ever even walk over to a car that says, come here.
CJ
I love what you need to do, Micah. Just hopefully he learned his lesson.
Ryan
When Mike has a guy, a guy puts down his window, he points a gun at you and says, come here.
Jamie
What are you going to do?
Ryan
Run away?
Jamie
Well, Mike would have been his fault.
CJ
For not being out after dark and.
Ryan
Wearing those type of clothes at 1:30 in the afternoon. Yeah.
CJ
He shouldn't have been wearing those type of clothes.
Ryan
You know, it was in the middle of the afternoon.
CJ
Wow, that's actually pretty.
Ben
I'm not saying he, he learned his lesson. I'm just like, damn, I bet he's going to be careful walking around now. Like, not, not even like, just.
Ryan
What do you, what do you mean?
Jamie
Like, he's not rolling around without his piece or his boys, right?
Ryan
What do you mean, careful? It's, it's like where you live, right?
Ben
He's always got to be careful.
Ryan
How could, how, what would he have done differently?
Ben
I'm not saying he should have done anything differently.
Jamie
That's what happens when you go to college.
Ryan
I'm just kidding.
Ben
I, I, I'm not saying he should have done anything.
Jamie
Is what you're saying is like being.
Ryan
Aware of your surroundings.
Ben
Yeah. Just being aware that the chances of that happening are extremely higher than when he comes home to DL when he comes home.
Ryan
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what it's just like a completely.
Ben
Different, like it actually. Oh, shit. That actually happened to me. I've heard this happening to people in Minneapolis, like, all the time. That happened to me.
Ryan
What's super annoying, I've talked to certain people that live in the cities that completely deny the Living situations being dangerous. And I don't understand what.
Jamie
Do they live in Minnetonka?
Ryan
Yes.
Jamie
Yeah. Well, that's why. Yeah.
Ben
No, no, no.
Jamie
City.
CJ
No.
Ryan
I think it's people that live outside that don't want to recognize what's happening in the city almost, or I think which is even more like delusional or worse, is that it's like a political stance where you don't want to admit that it is dangerous or that, like things are happening because it looks bad on your politician that you support.
Jamie
I'd agree with which.
Ryan
Which I'm like, dude, at what point is it just not worth it? Like, politics aside, put price, safety, the pride aside, like the safety of civilians, random civilians in a town, just because of like a certain policy.
Jamie
Right, dude, I agree.
Ryan
100 political agenda. I don't know.
Ben
It's like they don't care about the integrity of their beloved city. You know, they just like letting it go.
Jamie
Do you remember?
Ryan
I don't think they view it like that, though.
Ben
They don't.
Ryan
Well, obviously. And I mean, look at politics from either side and they'll both argue. Yeah, they'll both argue against each other. And I don't think either are probably right. But almost putting sense of like humanity aside and trying to make it something political when it shouldn't be, that no human should be put in that position. Like, dude.
Jamie
Yeah.
Ryan
Can you imagine being held at gunpoint?
Jamie
Was he pretty jarred from it? Was he pretty shooken up?
Ryan
Well, I think.
Jamie
How's he taking it? I mean, having someone point a gun at you and not knowing whether they're gonna pull the trigger or not. Gotta be pretty. It was pretty scary, you know, when.
CJ
It happened to me.
Jamie
Jarring.
Ben
Yeah, I guess. Like.
CJ
I was in a car.
Ryan
No, you didn't. They didn't really happen like that.
Ben
So I guess.
CJ
Oh, so him getting a gun pointed at him, it was different than.
Ben
Just doesn't. Yeah.
Jamie
Ryan, you're being a little. What are you talking about? In your Jeep. Yeah.
Ryan
He didn't have a gun in his hand. Yeah. Yes, he had a gun.
Jamie
Pointed a gun at him. Is this dude stupid? Are you on camera? No. He did. He did.
Ryan
I blacked out. But he didn't point at you.
Ben
You.
Jamie
He pointed at us and I said, he's not gonna pull the trigger.
Ben
I know.
CJ
He won't.
Ryan
No, he didn't lift it up.
CJ
Jesus Christ.
Jamie
Anyway, I.
CJ
It doesn't matter.
Ryan
No, it does. It does. Did he lift it up?
Ben
No.
Ryan
Yeah.
Jamie
Pointed at us. Yes. I was like, he ain't gonna shoot?
Ryan
No, he did.
Ben
I don't think he ever went like this.
CJ
Okay, next time when you tell the story and you go, ryan had a gun pulled on him. The guy was this close to his head. And then I have to go, oh, no. Remember, he didn't even have a gun in his hand.
Ken
Was Ben in the same car as everyone else?
Jamie
Yeah, he was in the back seat. He couldn't see. That's why he wasn't fre out.
Ryan
Anyway, so I do have something to.
Jamie
Say about the cities. This reminds me of a story that actually Ryan and I experienced together. It was last year, last fall, and him and I and our girlfriends went to a Vikings game, and we were staying in a nice hotel just across the street from stadium, and we go walking out on game day. We're sitting there waiting for, like, our Uber or something, or we were gonna go get brunch. It doesn't matter. And this guy comes up that was supposedly homeless, and he goes like, you know, hey, could I get some money? Like, I'm trying to. Trying to get back home to see my. My mama. And he was like, God, he had to been in his 50s. And, like, I don't know. I'm actually kind of a sucker. I give. I normally give people money, but it just didn't feel right. He got to me last, and I just was, like, thinking to myself, I'm like, God damn it. Like, I can't keep just doing this. And I just said, sorry, man. All I got is my card. And he literally looked at me like this.
Ryan
He goes.
Jamie
White. I just started screaming, freaking out, Whoa, wife. You'll take that. That word out. Beep it. Like, it. Actually, I actually. I haven't heard that word in a long time. He starts calling us it and, like, creates a whole scene, and we're all just like this. And he just, like, goes walking away, and we're just like. He was so nice and polite asking for the money, and he switched like this. And I was like, bro. I went from being like, God, I feel so bad telling this guy, like, no, I don't have any cash on me, like, almost swinging that guy. I'd imagine that even bigger cities are, you know, dealing with the same thing. But it's like, how do you even fix that? How do you fix that you can't give money out to people because then you create another problem. It's just, like, ultimately, it's just a societal thing.
Ryan
Where does Minneapolis rank in, like, the most violent cities?
CJ
Honestly? God, I'd have to admit it's probably not even cracking the top 15.
Jamie
I would imagine not, but it just.
Ken
Really is not as high as you think.
Ryan
But really I think it is.
CJ
I think like number one to Baltimore.
Ken
St. Louis, which I've actually heard. St. Louis is really bad. Memphis bunch of Milwaukee.
CJ
That's dang.
Jamie
Yeah. Have you ever heard about the Kia boys?
Ken
Minneapolis Evans heard about them.
Jamie
He was part of them for. Well, now we don't want to spill the beans, but you guys ever heard about the Kia Boys? So it's basically this group of young men in Milwaukee. They're like Wisconsin. I don't even know if I could say young men. They are boys, like young teenagers. And they figured out for some reason how to steal Kias very easily. And they steal these Kias.
Ben
Wondering how they got their name.
Jamie
Yeah, the Kia boys, they're. They're the Kia Boys. We're the Sea Boys. They're the Kia Boys.
CJ
Don't get a mix.
Jamie
Don't get like, we're the C Boys because we're the boys of Cormorant. They're the Kia boys because they steal Kias and drive them recklessly. Wreck them, roll them, go like 100 mile an hour through like a 25 mile an hour, like residential zone. They are so reckless and they have no care in the world. And this YouTuber, Tommy G, actually did a little segment. He did a video with him.
Ben
Check that out.
Jamie
He does like these documentaries where he.
Ryan
Goes to the hood.
Jamie
He's a really. I, I actually with.
Ben
I've seen a few of his other.
Jamie
He's up and coming. He did a video. So he. Anyways, he goes to Milwaukee and he does this video with them. They like start ripping these cars.
Ryan
How do you do a video with them? Aren't they so like his channel?
Jamie
Yeah. They were wearing masks.
Ryan
Okay.
Jamie
They had ski masks on. Like the kids.
Ryan
Yeah.
Jamie
And you just would have to go check it out. But he does these. He started doing these documentary type of videos, 15 minute videos, where he'll go and be with the Kia boys who are stealing Kias. Or he'll go and hang around like a. A really big drug dealer and like film drug deals and everyone's masked up and like, it's. It's like a show you would see on Vice.
Ben
Like, Vice.
Jamie
Yeah. Where like. And he's. He does a really good job because it just is very real.
CJ
How does he get that approved with like a drug dealer?
Jamie
I.
CJ
And that's.
Jamie
I don't know. I think you eventually develop a reputation. Like he keeps it real.
Ryan
And.
Jamie
And ultimately, a lot of these people, you know, you've never been on camera. You're into money and making money or whatever. A lot of people want to be like, a star, you know, they feel cool, whether their face is masked or whatever. It's just like, I guess I can. It hits them there. But anyways, he did this video on. I believe it was in New York, and the dirt bikes that are running the streets around there. And the guy who was his main form of contact clearly watches our videos because he was wearing a Seaboys TV dirt. No way. Dead ass serious. Dead ass serious. The guy that he meets up with and then brings him to go meet with all the other guys that are doing wheelies in the street is wearing a Seaboys TV dirt bike shirt. I swear to God. So sick, bro. I. And I've been watching his videos for, like, two months, and then that pops.
Ryan
I'm like.
Jamie
Like, that's pretty cool.
Ryan
But also, I don't know. Pop it up.
Jamie
I will send you the link. Ryan, you can put it on the screen. Dude was wearing a dirt bike shirt. Whoever that guy's.
Ben
Yeah, his name. Yeah, his name.
Jamie
I don't know. Can we really plug him? Can we plug him? Is he gonna get in trouble?
Ben
I don't know. He's trying to. Whatever, we'll plug.
Ryan
Fuck it.
Ben
Yeah, nice guy. And he's like, yeah, I had to cop that. He copped the quad one, too.
Jamie
Let's send him some more shit. Let's send him some shit after this. Just because he was wearing it in that video. And that's so cool. I'm gonna actually hit up Tommy G and say, yo, love what you're doing also.
Ben
That'd be sick. Yeah. Do you guys, like, watch, like, on that similar form of content? Like, real media right now is definitely on YouTube, I would say. Not the news. And Andrew Callahan, like, all gas, no breaks. He. He actually got, like, a company bought that whole channel from him, and he lost it. So he can't do.
Ryan
Why did that happen?
Ben
Basically, he was, like, just trying to make it. And they came to him and said, we'll fund all of this. We'll pay for you and a filmer, maybe two filmers, and we'll get you an RV and we'll pay for your gas. And I think that's about it, you know, like, fronted them $20,000 to get going and to film for the year. And then, like, something. I can't.
Jamie
They screwed him over in the contract. Yeah, it sounds like.
Ben
And then he Basically, like, give up his All Gas, no Brakes channel, which is just a fun name.
Jamie
That's so that happens all the time in contracts. If you don't have someone reading your contracts or if you're not reading them yourself, you're up.
Ben
Yeah.
Jamie
Straight up. How many stories have you heard of that?
Ben
He's like, just Channel five with Andrew Callahan. And, like, dude, he. He did like a full documentary on O Block. Like in Chicago.
Jamie
He did. Dude, like, Tommy G did one as well.
Ben
It's like O' Block is like a big community of apart, like, apartments. And there's like. It's like Section 8 housing, you know?
Jamie
Like, it's very dangerous and it's just dangerous.
Ben
That's where, like, Chief Keef came from. And, like, it's just dangerous in general. Like, there's like, this building is, like, against this bill. It's not quite like that, but like, dude, people, like, they're shooting all over. And he, like, went and then he took them to a Cubs baseball game and all that. Like, he just does the media covers. Pretty cool that, like, no one's covering. Like, going in there with, like, legit gang members.
CJ
Wow.
Jamie
It's a little bit ingenious. Like, it's not only going and documenting, but then taking them to, like, a normal societal event.
Ryan
That's some shit we do.
Ben
Like, he just goes to, like, all the rallies and protests, and he never says anything bad about anyone, about any side, about any certain this or that, but he just ends up clowning, like, basically everyone he interviews. Like, that's not his main goal, but it's like, it's very funny.
Jamie
I feel like you could do that, Mike.
Ben
I would love it. He's. But I'm not outgoing enough. Like, I feel outgoing, but, like, I'm not quick and witty. And he's like, he. No, I guess you're right.
Ryan
He doesn't really come out. He's pretty quiet, outgoing. Yeah.
Ben
I just love very entertaining content.
Ryan
I have a lot of respect for people that are able to go into situations that are going to be uncomfortable.
Ben
Yeah.
Ryan
And especially for the cameraman, too. You know, it's one of those behind the scenes things that do not get the respect that they deserve because it's.
Jamie
So awkward when they look at you and they're like, you're fucking filming me.
CJ
Yeah, you're the one.
Jamie
They normally have a problem with the camera guy and you got to sit there and hold that shit on them. And, like, if anyone's getting punched first, it's the cameraman for sure. Either Whack the camera or hit the cameraman.
Ryan
A lot of times for YouTubers that just are like a single YouTuber with a cameraman, like, Danny Duncan's a great example of it. He's probably the biggest example of it. They go around and if anyone presses the cameraman there, they get pissed and they. They cover them and like, do not touch the cameraman or my camera.
Jamie
It's your duty as. And I mean, you know, I don't even know who we're really speaking to, but if you're a YouTuber and you are hiring a cameraman and you're putting doing these situational vehicle or videos where the cameraman is in an opportunity to get hit, it is your duty to make sure they don't like.
CJ
I remember getting a goalie.
Jamie
Yeah. I remember when exactly Logan Paul was. Was with Jake, right. And Jake was hanging around the shady character at the time. And the guy went after Logan Paul's cameraman, and Logan Paul grabbed the fucking dude and slammed into the ground. I've seen that happen. I've seen so many people, like just defend their. Their camera guys and. Because they respect them, because you. Without them, it's not.
Ben
I love that.
Ryan
It's also a very selfless duty.
Jamie
It's a selfless duty. You get no fame and you're just. You're in the line of fire and.
Ben
It'S like easy to. You can do a hundred things right and one wrong, you know, like 100 things right. Delete the one clip you shouldn't have, like bounced this, you know, you fumble the shot. Yeah, but I love that. I love. It's also. It's just like. I love how you said protect the goalie. It's just like the goalie, in a sense. You can do 100 things right, block 100 shots, but if you miss the three, man one that matters. Yeah, that's so funny.
CJ
Unless you're a cameraman around here, then you get attacked because you're probably also the one playing the prank. Like when Ken threw that thing at you. No, you were a bystander. No, you were a cameraman.
Jamie
I will admit I slightly. I mean, it was kind of my instigation, but I was.
Ryan
It's different for our situation because, well, friends, right?
CJ
Yeah, but I see what you're saying. If you're putting someone in the line of fire.
Jamie
You want to know something? I haven't been able to appreciate as much just lately. And maybe it might be just due to my coming of age.
Ben
Soccer.
Jamie
No, it's when people go out and they make videos, potentially riling up someone just minding their own business. I say they go to Target and this guy is shopping, and they're. They're secretly filming them, and they very clearly instigate them to get mad. And then they make this video on him. But it's like, this guy's really witty and he's. He's quick with the comebacks, and it's very obvious that he's joking and the other guy doesn't. And they basically make the other person look bad on video. And it's very easily for me to, like, watch it and see and be like, they totally just did that guy dirty. They set him up. And, I mean, we've maybe done it a couple times too. I think it's considered punching down in the industry. It's like. Like when the joke's not on you, you kind of are punching down and, you know, whatever. But I've had a hard time appreciating that lately.
Ben
Interesting.
Jamie
You know what I'm saying?
Ryan
And I don't.
Jamie
I'm not even gonna say. I'm not gonna say YouTubers, names that do that. But there's so many that have made such a large career off of it. It's like, I. I think maybe I don't appreciate as much because they're like, I. I know how these people are living. I'm like, wow, dude, like, you're millionaire and you go around Walmart and pick on these, like, people that are just trying to get by, and then you set them up and then you make it big off of it, and it's just like, I don't know.
Ryan
And then you.
CJ
I used to cut.
Jamie
I used. Yeah, you can edit it and make them look bad, make you look good. And that used to be my favorite type of content, right. But now I have grown out of it because, I don't know, I just have a different look on it. I don't. I don't appreciate it as much.
Ben
I think there's, like, two truths to that. Like, both sides. How you said it is considered punching down in the industry? Because it is. And then there's also the side of some. It's all subjective. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it is funny. And like, how you said we've maybe done it a few times, because sometimes it happens when we're, like, out and about, maybe especially different when you're looking.
Jamie
For it or you're out, but creating.
Ben
A whole career off of it. Completely different. It's because then it's like they're up. They're way up. Like they're making money and they're just always like, always detriment, punching down.
Jamie
Like it's different if I'm making fun of you because it's kind of like, you know, we're in this together kind of thing. But it's like not really that cool if you're like clowning random people, basically just taking.
CJ
Yeah, yeah.
Ben
That's a very grown up thing of you to say. But I mean, it's 100% something I've.
Jamie
Recently realized because there's just people that I've watched for a long time that I have a hard time watching.
Ben
And it definitely is changing people on watching on YouTube. It's shifting towards a. I like how you did this prank on people. No one got hurt, no one got upset, no one whatever.
Jamie
To be clear, you mentioned Danny Duncan. It's not. I'm not even talking about Danny Duncan. There's just so many other people that, that do that type of content. Danny Duncan is probably my favorite youtuber still.
Ryan
I think it's probably the easiest. One of the easiest types of content to make.
Jamie
Not though. But it, it just takes a certain type of person. You have to have balls.
Ryan
Yeah. No, for sure. But like, if you do, if you go up to 25 people.
Ben
Yeah.
Ryan
To do it, odds are that you're gonna find one person that's gonna give you such a good reaction, you're gonna go viral off of it. So it's like, it's just kind of a numbers game.
CJ
But there's this guy on Instagram that I have followed and I think he's really funny and he does a little bit more where he makes fun of himself. And that's kind of why it's a little funnier still. It's interacting with random people. But he goes to like a Lowe's and he's smoking weed and he goes, can I smoke this in here? And like, nobody stops him.
Ben
Same for.
CJ
Just ends up getting wicked high. And he like literally is at. He's like, can someone please kick me out? They're like, nah, man, you're good to do that in here. Just totally flipped it on.
Jamie
They don't want to even press them.
CJ
Yeah, they don't even want probably whatever.
Jamie
Type of city they live in.
Ben
It's so funny.
Jamie
Yeah, they're like, we got bigger problems to deal with, man. People are stealing stuff in here.
CJ
Yeah, they like, we don't need to stop that. I'm going to pull it up.
Ryan
Speaking of stealing stuff, I saw Walmart just dropped a stat that they had a billion dollars worth of stuff stolen.
Jamie
Last year, I believe.
Ben
Whoa.
Jamie
Yeah. And. And I heard that they were talking about potentially closing down their stores, which I thought was major cap.
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, major cap.
Ken
Certain stores.
Ben
So the dumb question. Oh, maybe it feels dumb, but is Walmart worldwide or just us?
CJ
Worldwide, I don't know about.
Jamie
Yeah, I know it's America.
Ben
Not a lot, but there. Is it not allowed?
Ken
I think they tried and they kind of closed a few.
Ben
Can you imagine? Not allowed. But yeah, so if it's like worldwide or. But if that's just us, like, you know, put them. That's a lot of stolen. What.
Ryan
What is Walmart's revenue a year? Like, is a billion bucks for Walmart's revenue?
Ben
A lot, though.
CJ
Yeah, they said a billion dollars was stolen.
Jamie
There's. There's some cities where they have, like, laws where they don't enforce certain type of crimes. Where, like, so if it's a. If it's like, under a certain dollar amount, they don't enforce it. And I've seen videos of this. It'll be like, this guy comes in here every week and steals whatever, and he's just masked up and, like, no one can stop him. He just walks in, takes leaves. No one does anything. They just turn the other cheek. And the police don't do anything either.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
Because they're like, oh, this guy just stole a bag of chips and a pop.
Jamie
The guy, you know, whatever. But yeah, he just walks in, walks out.
CJ
Wow.
Jamie
And I think there's a lot of cities like that. I don't know what exactly it's called. It's like a.
Ryan
Just like a petty crime.
Jamie
Yeah. They consider under a certain dollar amount maybe like a thousand bucks so they could steal.
CJ
Like, Wow.
Jamie
I don't. And don't quote me on a thousand. But like a certain amount. It was like the dude had taken. Very clearly stolen. Nothing's gonna happen to him. He does it every week.
Ken
But in fiscal year 2022, they did 572.8 billion.
Ben
Wow.
Jamie
So how much was stolen? Just a billion.
Ryan
0.5% of the revenue.
Jamie
That's not even a 1%.
Ryan
Yeah, it's.
CJ
Yeah, it's like 1% of 1% marginal.
Ryan
Sorry, sorry.
Jamie
Not even a full percent.
CJ
That's.
Jamie
That's very marginal.
Ken
That's a lot still. That's a ton.
Jamie
Yeah, it's a lot. Ton of stuff, but yeah, No, I don't. I believe it. Never even seen that ever.
Ryan
A billion dollars, like, it would fill.
Ben
Up like an arena of just stuff.
Jamie
Yeah, I mean, the bigger you get, that's just part of it.
Ben
But I've been like, creating a folder on Instagram like, of crazy videos, but, like, actually crazy videos. You know, people getting smoked at the. A bunch of just crazy shit.
Jamie
This too is West Coast. People getting hit by cars.
Ben
Yeah. I mean, not. Not. It's. It's not a folder of people just getting hit by cars or smoke.
Jamie
He watches every night before he goes.
Ben
To bed, as you will. Yeah, I go through all 24 videos every night.
Jamie
Okay. Okay, what.
Ryan
What's your folder here?
Ben
It's just crazy videos.
Ryan
There is a lot of explicit.
Ben
Yeah, obviously.
Ryan
Okay, where are you going with this?
Ben
I'm just wondering if you guys want me to show them to you.
Ryan
Oh, can we?
CJ
I feel like this is when you're young and you used to search on YouTube like crazy videos before there was.
Ben
I promise you these will not be what you'd find.
CJ
Crazy videos.
Ben
Dude, they are. I promise you. If this happened to you, you go, that was crazy.
Ryan
Oh, my God. Straight into the top floor patio door.
Ben
And exploded probably in their living room. Like, can you imagine that happening to you? Like, it could have started the entire.
Ryan
Building on fire, let alone really hurt someone.
CJ
Yeah, I don't. I. I hate to be this guy. I don't think it's real.
Ben
Really? Ah, yeah, it could be.
Jamie
How do you not think this is real?
CJ
It's too far away.
Ben
It just seems like too. All right.
Jamie
That seems real to me.
Ben
Like, can you imagine doing that on whatever kind of tractor that is? He's just like, yeah, I can finesse bounce it back.
Jamie
You only have 4, 300 likes. Don't you have a tractor? I do have a track.
Ben
Oh, dude, Mark, you couldn't do that.
Jamie
Mark, you're a farm boy.
Ryan
Mark.
Jamie
Mike.
CJ
God damn.
Ben
Dude got absolutely.
CJ
I love the caption. If your tore up, I'm gonna stay away.
Jamie
Come on, Mike.
Ryan
Dude, the car meets when you just. Oh, did he just run over his leg?
Ben
Yeah. And then look at him just like kind of like walk away. All right, I'll restart it.
Jamie
And dude, I saw front wheel drive. Oh, hold up. That guy might have a broken.
CJ
Dude, so many people get run over by cars and are fine.
Ben
Hold on.
Ryan
I know he got run over by.
CJ
A Chevy HHR or whatever the that is.
Jamie
He broke his back or his neck.
Ben
Oh, he's back down.
Jamie
Yeah, he broke his back or his neck.
Ryan
Oh, his face. Dude, his face is.
Jamie
No, he broke his back or his neck. 100. Do you see the way he bended? Oh, like collarbone.
Ben
Yeah, he's got out of there though.
Jamie
His collarbone, something.
Ben
There's so many good ones.
Ryan
These, dude.
Jamie
Oh, this is. This is the best one.
Ben
That's the pants one.
Jamie
Let's give them dude look.
CJ
He looks up at the guy and the guy on the left is filming him right there. And he's like, oh.
Ryan
Boxers. Is that like a southern thing to do? These car meetups and donuts.
Jamie
Oh, my God. Evan thought that was funny.
Ben
Bike in half.
CJ
Dude. I was just telling Vast to watch out, not do this on our scooter. Oh, right in front of the cop.
Ryan
Oh, dude.
Jamie
Buddy slid on his face.
CJ
Dude, he had the green light too. That cop was running a red light. You're trying to warn him.
Jamie
Oh, my gosh. Banshee.
Ryan
Go figure. Oh, dude.
CJ
There's been so many times late at night we've been.
Jamie
But I told you.
CJ
There's been so many times late at night, we'll be buzzing home down the trail after like a long day, snowmobiling in the mountains, and we'll be just ripping like 75 dark whooped out trail. And there'll just be a corner that comes out of nowhere. And I've almost done that. And I always go, man, that really, really suck right now. Yeah.
Ben
Pile drive into a bunch of trees at the end of the day. Yeah, this is a.
Jamie
This.
Ben
I will end on this one. It's a four wheeler clip that most of you should have seen if you're into what a power sports. But this dude bounces this utility four wheeler.
Ryan
Oh, wait.
Jamie
Oh.
Ben
Oh.
Jamie
Does it roll on him?
Ben
It kind of does, but actually the dude ends up being all right.
Jamie
So you got to be careful with those.
Ryan
Those actual four wheelers.
Jamie
Not quads, utilities.
CJ
Four wheelers.
Jamie
Those things roll on you, you're in trouble. I mean, people die all the time.
Ben
Especially the.
Jamie
The.
Ben
It's the going up the hill, thinking.
Jamie
You can climb straight back or even sideways.
Ryan
Yeah, Collect.
Ben
It's like, I only put your bike Mike.
Ryan
I know, dude.
Ben
He's on the yz.
Jamie
Oh, no. And he's got a chick on there. Yeah, I already know it's gonna happen.
Ben
And they're having a good time now.
Jamie
But this poor girl, what is she doing hanging around this guy? Oh, my God.
Ben
But yeah, like right now he's kind of shredding.
Jamie
Well, clearly he knows.
CJ
Oh, I hate that you say right now.
Ben
So then they switch positions. She hops on the back. No, he's going crazy right now.
Ryan
He's doing the Evan, arm swing.
Jamie
Oh, my gosh.
CJ
She have her feet on the pegs. Oh, my gosh.
Ryan
Okay, honestly, this is insanely impressive.
Ben
Wait, maybe they don't crash. And I just saved it because I was really impressed.
Jamie
This is gonna be Mike and Sydney.
CJ
I was gonna say they'd be really dumb to post all this and not post.
Jamie
Agree. Dude, he's Same bike and everything.
Ben
Absolutely throwing down right now.
Jamie
Man, this chick has got bigger balls than him. I wouldn't want to ride on the back of that thing.
Ryan
Must really like this guy.
Ben
Well, it's whenever I think of a ride or die that I just always think of that. It's like, not that, you know, everyone wants a ride or die, but like, whatever that is. That's right.
Jamie
I would.
Ryan
I wouldn't. I wouldn't even.
Jamie
I wouldn't even expect anyone to do that with me.
Ben
Dude, can we get the bowling sound on that?
Jamie
Oh, gosh. How do people keep getting hit at these car meets? How do you show up at a street?
Ryan
They just keep happening.
Jamie
Yeah, I know, but how do. How are you so dumb? You're like, I'm gonna stand this close to this random amateur dude who just bought a charger last week, literally.
Ben
We should do like a psa, like T shirt or, you know, some fundraiser. Stop getting hit at car meets or whatever.
Jamie
What are those a psa?
CJ
Street takeovers.
Ben
Street takeover slideshow.
Jamie
I do want to go to one though.
Ryan
I'm not gonna lie.
CJ
It'd be so fun.
Ryan
Is that. Is that like a southern thing?
CJ
I think it's more of a big city thing. I think away with it. Yeah. But yeah, I think southern. Wherever a bunch of dudes have stolen hellcats seems to be a common theme.
Ryan
It is always the hellcats. You always see a hellcat doing it. I think it.
CJ
I think it's because you can buy like a 70,000 or 170,000 mile Hellcat with a salvage title for like 35 grand.
Ben
Yeah.
CJ
So it's like true. How can you not?
Jamie
It's also kind of like the gangster car. Like if you look at like the. The hood wrappers, they're all ripping around in hellcats. It doesn't matter if it's a charger. It's mostly challenger. Mostly.
Ryan
Most of the time it's a. It's a charger. It's a four door. When you see somebody that gets in donut ring like that, it's always usually the hellcat charger, but it's like the.
Jamie
Neighborhood star drug dealer. They all like, that's when they feel like they, I don't know.
CJ
That's where you got it. When you got that.
Jamie
It seems like, it seems like that's how it is. And it also seems to be that's how it is because of the way they talk about it in the rap songs. But I, I, I'd say we've probably gone long enough today, wouldn't you guys? Yes, sir.
CJ
We've gone deep enough.
Jamie
It was a good chat. It was a good one. Yeah, this was fun.
Ben
Subscribe if you're not already. Drop a, like, comment, whatever you want.
Jamie
We're trying to get to 150 thousand.
Ben
Subscribers grinding for it.
Jamie
And we're also trying to hit 2 million subscribers on YouTube for SeattleTV, so our main channel. And we will see you guys next week.
CJ
Peace.
Date: December 20, 2022
Hosts: CJ, Ben, Ryan, Ken, Jamie, Evan, and Micah
This episode dives into the daily realities and frustrations the CboysTV crew experience while filming YouTube videos, juxtaposed with lighter moments and tangents about music, business, crime, and internet culture. The crew shares behind-the-scenes insights—from technical and creative struggles to personal anecdotes—delivering their trademark blend of humor and authentic camaraderie. The episode also covers broader cultural topics like music streaming, social media trends, city safety, viral videos, and ethical issues in online content creation.
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For listeners and fans, this episode offers a revealing, honest look at the grind of YouTube, sprinkled with the CboysTV trademark humor and plenty of memorable moments you won’t want to miss.