What My Dad REALLY Thinks of Me Being a YouTuber

Summary

Life Wide Open with CboysTV

Episode: "What My Dad REALLY Thinks of Me Being a YouTuber"
Date: November 29, 2022

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Episode Overview

In this special episode, the CboysTV crew welcomes Ben's dad as a guest, diving into his perspective on their journey as YouTubers. The group shares behind-the-scenes stories on building their business and the realities of content creation, from wild stunts to business challenges, and reflects on the impacts of their adventures—both hilarious and harrowing. Listeners get business insights, family perspectives, and a treasure trove of memorable, funny, and inspiring moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Behind the Scenes: The Reality of CboysTV Operations

• Late-Night Edits & Hustle
  • The group reminisces about their marathon editing sessions, especially during big drops like Black Friday.
    • (03:01) Ben: "We would have to spend basically, like, 24 hours straight editing… for years."
    • (04:26) Mike: "It feels good to just see everybody grinding… we had to grind and it was so fun."
• Shop Space & Growth Challenges
  • Brainstorming about outgrowing their workspace and dreaming up bigger, better shops with foam pits and skate parks:
    • (14:53) Ryan: "I think we gotta think about building something even bigger… after watching [Mark Rober and Fantasy Factory], this place is kinda small."
    • (16:31) Mike: "This shop really is… about half strictly business for sure."
• Plans to Hire Specialists
  • Discussion about hiring a full-time fabricator/mechanic to take CboysTV builds to the next level:
    • (17:20) Ben: "I think the next shop we need to have a spot dedicated to just builds that can take a long time… And then we also need to just hire a full-time fabricator and mechanic."
    • (21:07) Ryan: "That one dude that's coming up to do the R6, he might be our ticket."

2. Viral Moments & Pop Culture

• Black Friday Antics
  • Reflections on changing consumer culture and past escapades.
    • (06:03) Mike: "Me and my buddies would stay up all night… we'd go to Fargo and just drift around in the parking lots until the stores opened."
• Taylor Swift Ticket Mania
  • The group laughs about how hard it is to get Taylor Swift tickets, jokingly comparing it to getting into Harvard:
    • (25:18) Ben: "I don't… Is that true?"
    • (25:25) Evan: "I guarantee I could not get into Harvard."
• Kanye West’s Wild Ride
  • Discussion of Kanye’s public outbursts and their entertainment value.
    • (29:03) Mike: "He’s crazy but he so entertaining."
    • (30:06) Mike: "I just was surprised to see at how horribly he was handling the divorce."

3. Camaraderie, Risks, & Friendship

• Challenge Stories
  • The group breaks down recent YouTube challenges, including hot dog eating, footraces, and icy water dares.
    • (09:03) Evan: "I did not want the consequences. It was like there was a person chasing me with a knife."
• Push-the-Limits Culture
  • Acknowledging the riskier aspects of their work and balancing entertainment with safety.
    • (12:05) Ryan: "When I was running, I was thinking, this is inhumane."
    • (39:16) Ben's Dad: "That's my biggest concern, is you guys getting hurt… you’re bringing in talent that's way better than you, way more skilled than you."
• Lessons from Mishaps
  • Stories of vehicles and equipment being broken, and evolving attitudes on “stuff” vs. experiences.
    • (50:33) Ben's Dad: "My conservative mindset is just take care of stuff… but that's what makes you guys great, you know that you can replace it with something even better."

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Interview with Ben’s Dad: Reflections, Business Wisdom, and Family Moments

(Begins at 31:00)

A. His Initial Impressions and Turning Points

• At first, he thought Ben and the guys were just "wasting time" until he realized the global scale of what they were building—especially after seeing merch shipped worldwide and hearing about MTV interest:
  • (34:53) Ben's Dad: “I thought you guys were just wasting your time until we went to Idaho on a trip and you missed out on that call from MTV.”
  • (35:11) Ben's Dad: “When I started seeing addresses on your merch going out to Germany and New Zealand… it’s like, oh my God, these guys have something that they don’t even realize—they have a global impact.”

B. Business Lessons and Hard Work

• Draws parallels between building a YouTube business and running a successful practice. Emphasizes vision, scaling up, and relentless work ethic:
  • (36:28) Ben's Dad: “You can have a vision that’s as big as your community… or global impact. Now it’s just a matter of scaling it.”
  • (36:59) Ben's Dad: “You didn’t get here by accident… I watched you guys grind hard.”

C. Proudest and Most Difficult Moments as a Parent

• Shares immense pride, but also the anxiety/fear from their riskiest stunts—especially after Ken's neck injury:
  • (38:16) Ben's Dad: “That is what… I live in this world of people that have injuries, and now… they’re dealing with them… that’s my biggest concern, is you guys getting hurt.”
• Recognizes their ability to inspire and uplift young people through entertainment:
  • (42:10) Ben's Dad: “Your message is far reaching. I read those comments. These kids… you guys can make them laugh, cheer them up, and give them a better day. That’s why you’re here—to serve through entertainment.”

D. Family Anecdotes & Learning Life Lessons

• Tells origin stories about Ben's early work ethic (getting a job at 13 to pay for a broken four-wheeler) and orchestrating tough “teachable” job moments:
  • (43:36) Ben's Dad: “I kicked the door open, I said, get your ass to work. And then I called Dave, I said, Dave, let him have it.”
  • (44:30) Ben: “That was a defining moment in my life, I swear to God... when I have employees, I’m not going to treat them like this.”
• Reminisces about motorcycle adventures, family traditions, and epic road trips through all 48 contiguous states and into Alaska:
  • (54:22) Ben's Dad: “This was a 10 year run… went to every province in Canada, Alaska, thousand miles over permafrost.”

E. Memorable (and Sometimes Hair-Raising) Adventure Stories

• Surviving motorcycle breakdowns in the far north, relying on strangers' kindness—
  • (57:15) Ben's Dad: “I'm sitting on the side of this gravel road… here comes this truck… with a Tommy Lift. These two guys... get my bike fixed, give me their truck, refuse my $200… just awesome.”
• Witnessing a fatal car accident and feeling its long-lasting impacts —
  • (62:05) Ben's Dad: “I have PTSD from that… I open the door, flames rolling over this guy, tried to help, but he didn’t make it. I just got out of there… That was an adrenaline kick for 10 years."
• Notes about his brother and father’s similar travel exploits—from dodging bandits in Mexico to being lost at sea.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• (34:13) Ben's Dad: “I used to think I needed cars and snowmobiles… now I get to sit back and watch. I get more thrill from that than having all this stuff myself.”
• (42:28) Ben: “We saw the success, but also didn’t have handouts.”
• (44:01) Ben: “That was such a defining moment in my life… I’m not going to treat employees like this.”
• (50:48) Ben's Dad: “My conservative mindset is take care of stuff… but that’s what makes you guys great, you know you can replace it with something better.”
• (54:21) Ben's Dad (on adventure): “I was addicted to it. This was a 10 year run.”
• (62:05) Ben's Dad (on trauma): “I have PTSD and I still kind of do when I think about it.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–03:00: Banter on office mishaps, sleep schedules, and editing grind
• 03:45–06:00: Black Friday memories, changes over the years
• 14:53–17:20: Expanding the shop, dreams for the future
• 31:00–34:13: Ben’s Dad joins, reflects on CboysTV’s growth
• 34:53–36:28: When making videos became “real business” to Ben’s Dad
• 38:16–42:10: Parental pride and concern—balancing excitement and fear
• 43:36–44:30: The story behind Ben’s work ethic: a tough life lesson
• 54:21–59:24: Motorcycle odyssey tales: Alaska, permafrost, and the kindness of strangers
• 62:05–64:41: Recounting a traumatic fatal accident in Oregon
• 68:00–68:56: Hilarious family memory of CJ puking in the car: “There was puke on the dash!”

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Tone & Style

The episode is delivered in the familiar, lighthearted, and candid CboysTV style—blending self-deprecating humor, wild storytelling, and heartfelt reflections. The crew’s camaraderie is ever-present, and Ben's dad brings a touch of fatherly wisdom, nostalgia, and honesty to the proceedings.

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Summary

This episode offers fans a rare perspective—what it’s like for a parent to watch a group of small-town friends grow a YouTube empire while staying grounded in work ethic and family memories. Whether you’re here for the shop talk, crazy challenge recaps, or life lessons from the Cboys and Ben’s dad, the episode is packed with laughs, heart, and genuine advice for creators and dreamers alike.

Transcript

[Ben's Dad]

Whoa.

[Ben]

What.

[Ryan]

What the heck's wrong with this wheel?

[Ben's Dad]

Oh. Oh.

[Ryan]

Did someone smash this thing?

[Mike]

No, but I did break it.

[Ryan]

How do you manage to break a chair, Mike?

[Mike]

Well, when. When you needed to eat hot dogs, you and Ryan, I wanted you to have comfy chairs, and I'm bringing them down the stairs, and I'm, like, not bad. I only broke one of the ten wheels on the chairs.

[Ben]

Man. Ryan, you have been. You guys have really put in some work over here. You got a broken chair and a broken mic.

[Ryan]

Oh, geez.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, I didn't even notice the zip ties.

[Mike]

Yeah, we're switching it up a little bit. It's interesting having Ryan over here and Ben over there.

[Ben]

Yeah, this is nice. We'll see. We'll see how long I last over here until C.J. kicks me out. Because we bump knees the whole time.

[Ryan]

Yeah, we're. We're both spreaders. Like, we just sit really wide, and it's just not a good combo. Like, even, like, if we're sitting in the backseat of, like, a pickup together.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Ben]

I know.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Normally the. The third man is. Is the one who ends up getting it the worst. Yeah. Yeah, because we both just spread.

[Evan]

I feel like with the group, you have strategic people that you want in different positions of your life, and I would say being in the back of the truck or maybe even sleeping in a bed. Ben is a spreader in bed. Like, he. His legs. Jesus. His, like, legs are going sideways.

[Ben]

Don't drag me into this, Ryan.

[Evan]

Yeah, you want to share, like, the back seat with Micah or a bed.

[Ryan]

Even Ken, if we have to, if we're staying a hotel. No, not that there's anything. He just snores so loud. You can't even share the room with megaphone.

[Ben]

Yeah, but the thing about sleeping next to Mike, though, in the same bed, as if he is snoring, you can shake him, and the dude sleeps so hard, he'll just stop snoring, but, like, doesn't wake up. Yeah, I do.

[Ryan]

It's amazing.

[Mike]

I just tell you.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I was like, go over there. Light kick, light shove. And I should stop.

[Evan]

Yeah, but it's like, you got to.

[Ben]

Get out of bed going, right?

[Evan]

Shove you, like, roll you over. Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah, but Mike doesn't also, like, fall asleep until, like, two hours after everyone else, so you should be, like, hopefully deep into your sleep at that point.

[Evan]

That's true.

[Ben]

Like, your sleep schedule is so messed up.

[Mike]

Annihilated, dude.

[Ben]

I, like, see the cameras of you up at, like, 8am it's crazy not.

[Ryan]

Not getting up for the day, though, dude.

[Ben]

How are you, like, functioning and then waking up? Because usually we'll, like, start filming at, like, 10, and we'll wake you up at 10. How are you functioning on two hours of sleep?

[Mike]

It's pretty rare that I get only two hours of sleep, but you do it.

[Evan]

I still feel like you get the sleep in. You just get it in at a different hour.

[Mike]

There was one time, last two weeks ago, and I was working on the merch drop, that I legitimately got two hours of sleep. And it was brutal, and it felt so weird the next day. But if it's like four, four and a half to five hours of sleep, totally good. Weird that I do it from, you know, 5 to 10, but it's a weird schedule, man. Yeah, that's not always how it is.

[Evan]

But I feel like it's just a creative mind.

[Ben's Dad]

Like, dude, it's just.

[Mike]

Yeah. When I get checked in on my computer, it just. That's. I hate it, to be honest, but that's when my productivity is at its peak. It's so weird.

[Ben]

Me and CJ used to edit the videos, like, entirely by ourselves. So I would take one and then he would take one, like, the next week. When we would do that, we would have to spend basically, like, 24 hours straight editing. You'd start at, like, 7pm on a Wednesday night, and you'd edit basically for the next 24 hours straight.

[Evan]

I legit cannot believe that you guys did that for years.

[Ben]

For years. And then eventually we just got to the point where we were like, dude, this makes no sense for one of us to do the entire thing. And then when we're editing, like, the other one's just, like, chilling. Kind of just like a waste of time for the other person.

[Mike]

But ever since it started splitting, way more refined now.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's more refined. And the quality of the edits are, like, way better because you're not running on zero sleep trying to be.

[Ryan]

I felt like it was the old days, though. Just. So last video, when we were preparing for our Black Friday drop, Ben and I were both here editing at until 6am Yo. Yeah, we were here until 6am that.

[Mike]

Was the funniest thing, too, because I'm here too, working. I go, I'm gonna work. As long as they work, you know? I already know I'm gonna be up late. And it's like, here comes four. Damn, dude, I might go to bed. Here comes six. And I was like, dude, they're. Now they're up walking around like, I'm going to bed.

[Ben]

I got a second.

[Ben's Dad]

Did.

[Mike]

I didn't.

[Ben]

They did.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I was driving home and there was people jogging. I was like, huh, man, this is odd. I've done that in a while.

[Mike]

But yeah, that was sweet.

[Ben's Dad]

It's. It. I.

[Mike]

It feels good to just see everybody grinding, which obviously for Black Friday, to make everything happen, we had to grind and it was so fun. Yeah, it was fun to see. You got Cody in here helping you.

[Ryan]

Everybody comes together.

[Mike]

It's so awesome.

[Ryan]

I was thinking, do they still do like. They obviously still do like Black Friday sales at like brick and mortar stores. So like Walmart or, you know, wherever.

[Ben]

Do they still do it?

[Ryan]

Like where they just open the door?

[Ben]

They have it way more because you.

[Ryan]

Never see the videos.

[Ben]

People getting tramped. Like, people.

[Ryan]

Yeah, messed up.

[Evan]

That was like the biggest thing. It was like Thanksgiving, 6 o'. Clock, gotta get to the mall.

[Ben]

Just trying to save 100 bucks on TV, I think.

[Mike]

I think it came and went because all these companies, they bit off more than they could chew. So it.

[Ben]

It like started for a while.

[Mike]

It was just like midnight. No, it wasn't midnight. It wasn't. Black Friday started like 6:00am yeah. And then they started moving it to midnight and then people were like starting to. And then it was getting earlier. 7pm on Thursday. That's eating into people's Thanksgiving. So anyway, it just got so ridiculous that people were like, eh.

[Evan]

Also, who's going to a store to like. You might as well just go on Amazon or Walmart.com wherever and just get the sale there.

[Mike]

Get the same, probably same price.

[Ryan]

Things have changed, but.

[Evan]

And then you just get shipped to you. Yeah, I don't know.

[Ryan]

I was thinking about that. Because you'd never see those videos anymore. No, that had to have happened for a really long time because that was.

[Evan]

Like the rage for. I don't know. Yeah, I remember it like in.

[Ryan]

When I was in like middle school, I was just like, I'd like to go with like, my friends or like their parents and just. Just because I was like, this is gonna be lit. Like everyone. Like, same dude.

[Mike]

Me and my. Me and my buddies would stay up all night, of course, because they're getting early. And early we would go to Fargo and just drift around in the parking lots until the stores.

[Ben]

Of course you open. Wait, wouldn't there.

[Ryan]

There be a bunch of vehicles in the parking lot?

[Mike]

Like, not really, you know. Yeah, but just the vehicles of the people that are standing in line. But it's not Filling the parking lot up, per se. So no joke, just go drift around.

[Ben]

I love finding out about Mike's like troubled past trouble.

[Ryan]

Back when he was drifting in parking lot.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Evan]

His Buick La Sabre.

[Ben's Dad]

The saber.

[Mike]

And his one friend smoked a marble red when he was 15.

[Evan]

Whoa.

[Ben]

He died. And he died.

[Ryan]

So where. Where's the little weasel?

[Mike]

He's downstairs working.

[Ben's Dad]

Okay.

[Ryan]

Got his tail between his legs.

[Ben]

A little rat does.

[Evan]

Has Evan admitted that he's a weasel yet?

[Ben]

No, he hasn't.

[Ryan]

You don't get to decide whether you're.

[Ben's Dad]

A weasel or not.

[Ryan]

You just are one.

[Evan]

Yeah, but has he admitted to his fault or does he still haven't seen him yet?

[Ryan]

He went home for Thanksgiving. So in the video, the whole reason that I got my nipples pierced, which I lost fair and square. But we had to run because Evan chimed in and altered the whole competition and he was supposed to get his. His Pierce with me. That was part of it. And now he's not. Yeah. And it was weird because like before we, we didn't see the footage. So I was like, I swear I remember him saying like, if I win, you guys gotta both get it done. But I didn't want to like fully like lean on him. But then I saw obviously when it got chopped up. So he's. He's caught red handed.

[Mike]

It's tough because he, he. I think he did say that, but he didn't win.

[Evan]

I feel like if you hop in.

[Mike]

A competition, he threw up.

[Evan]

That's also true.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Either way, I don't know. Getting his nipples pierced, I think, I think he got into it. I will admit I definitely may have chopped a couple things out of the videos that may. That basically just made it like more blurry of like, well, was he a.

[Mike]

Part of it or not?

[Ben]

But I. No, he definitely knew what he was getting into. And then as soon as he found out that he had to, there was consequences. Consequences. That's when he backed out. And it's like, I don't know. I just think it's like super Weasley.

[Mike]

I can already see it now. Austin nipple shop again with Evan. With Evan. I can, I can already see it now. I don't know how it's going to happen. But like, I'm feeling. I'm sensing some. The universe is pushing him towards the second nipple piercing.

[Ryan]

But the main thing I can't believe is just that Ryan beat me in a race. I don't know what the hell, dude. I gave up. But also, I don't know where you pulled that out. It was like this dude developed some superpowers when we were running, bro.

[Evan]

I haven't ran in probably since.

[Ryan]

I think it just middle school basketball. It had to have just came down to you legit. Just didn't want it more than me 100%.

[Evan]

And I don't know how much you didn't want it, but I really could not want it.

[Ryan]

I could feel it when we were.

[Evan]

Running stride and stride.

[Mike]

Sounds so funny the way you guys are explaining it. Like you wanted the win, but the way you're explaining I was running so hard, like, I did not want it.

[Evan]

I did not want the consequences. It was like there was a person chasing me with a knife.

[Ryan]

Imagine how funny it would have been. It would have been such a dick move. But when we were running next to each other, I thought about tripping.

[Ben]

You. I thought about it, too. I thought about, yeah, you so funny for the video.

[Ryan]

But then I was just like, fudge.

[Ben]

Like, that'd be.

[Ben's Dad]

I don't know.

[Ryan]

It's like, it'd be like, cheating or like, I thought about pushing you into, like, the ditch.

[Evan]

Yeah, thought the same thing too. Trying to, like, jam you up when we were at the mailbox, But I was just so focused on not throwing up after eating five hot dogs and then running half a mile, sprinting half a mile. But, dude, it. It. You know, in the video, it happened so fast, but we, for about a little under a quarter mile, were stride and stride right next to each other.

[Ben]

Like, it was a very Ricky Bobby moment. That's what I felt like the music was going, finish line.

[Mike]

I love the way that you edit it. Like, it was already lit and looked like.

[Ben]

Yeah, that was the best part of.

[Ryan]

The video, I thought. Flashbacks, running in the flashback.

[Ben]

That's when I was like, this is all on the line, right?

[Mike]

That's when I was fully engaged.

[Ben]

I was like, oh, yeah.

[Ryan]

I am really disappointed in myself that I stopped. Like, I. I don't know. I just thought I had more willpower than that. I normally do. It's just, like, the circumstances. I don't know what the frick happened, dude. I gave up. And I'm honestly pretty embarrassed about that. I quit.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Like, I could have at least.

[Mike]

There was just so many factors.

[Ryan]

I could have been there. I could have been. I could have beat you. I. I also at least could have been, like, at least right behind you. I'm just so disappointed in myself for stopping running, dude.

[Mike]

And you had a head start.

[Evan]

If you had.

[Ben]

No, he was. He was.

[Mike]

You had the head start.

[Evan]

But I gave up, or I had started to give up on the run, and you were, like, 25ft ahead of me.

[Ryan]

I was so far ahead of him at the start. It wasn't on camera, but yeah.

[Mike]

And I can tell you probably in your head were like, wait, like, if I don't actually. If I lose this race, like, there's no, like.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But Evan hopped. There's none of that. It was. It was game over.

[Ryan]

It was also a little bit demotivating for me because I was thinking to myself, okay, he beat me in the backup challenge, and he beat me technically in the hot dog eating competition. And then it kind of got screwed up with, like, Evan hopping in. If I win this, like, it'd be really. It'd be kind of lame, which. You beat me or come back victory. You beat me. But, like, it would have been like.

[Mike]

We just spend the rest of the day doing challenges.

[Ryan]

Like, you ultimately won everything. But also, you did outrun me. Like, I just.

[Ben's Dad]

I.

[Evan]

You.

[Ryan]

I don't know why I quit.

[Evan]

I was probably. We were. When we were running next to each other, there was, like, one time you kind of, like, misstepped, and you fell back, like, six inches, and then you fell off. Yeah, that's right. And so that literally right there, I was like, all right, I got this. If that hadn't happened, I don't know how many. How much longer I could have kept at that rate. Yeah.

[Ben]

That was electric.

[Ryan]

That was fun. That was, like, an inhumane.

[Ben]

Very wrong. The entire.

[Ryan]

When I was running, I was thinking, this is inhumane.

[Ben]

Yeah, it really was, dude. Every single challenge, I guess not the backup challenge, but especially, like, the longest to last in the water challenge. That one just felt like I. I was, like, really mean for doing that to you guys.

[Ryan]

It was great.

[Evan]

You got your payback.

[Mike]

It definitely had, like, fear factor vibes.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know, just nasty challenges.

[Ryan]

That show was crazy. Like, they would have people upside down, like, strapped in a car, under, like, underwater, dude.

[Ben]

Like, I. For.

[Ryan]

I could not do that. I could probably hold my breath for, let's say, 40 seconds right here. But if I was in that situation, I'd be five seconds. Yeah. Like, the panicking dude. I'd go, I just. I'm not a water guy.

[Ben]

I would never get hurt on that show. I think that's. Yeah.

[Mike]

Is that the first. Is that the first experience you had? That's funny. I use that word with Joe Rogan.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Like, everyone.

[Mike]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ben]

That was his first, like, thing.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

It's so weird watching him with Hair.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know, like, it really is like, oh, that's Joe Rogan.

[Ryan]

He looks better with a bald head.

[Mike]

I agree.

[Ben]

Yeah, some guys just look better bald. Yeah.

[Mike]

Like a very small.

[Ryan]

But that dude's full on bald, too.

[Evan]

And, like, somebody did die in a Thai version of the Fear Factor show.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Evan]

But it wasn't the American one. He got hit by a barrel during a stunt.

[Ben's Dad]

What?

[Evan]

I don't know how you get hit by a barrel.

[Ben]

Just can't imagine. That was just like such, like. Think about how corporate that probably was because there was so. It was such a big show and how many, like, legal advisors and safety people that they had on set at all times that were probably just like, tweaking.

[Ryan]

Oh, I'm sure. But I feel like also back then, like, things were more loose. They just. And I think that's just a fact.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Like, everything's really tightened up because obviously people did probably get hurt.

[Ben]

Yeah. Like, people don't mess around.

[Mike]

They couldn't even do that now, right?

[Ben]

Yeah, they couldn't do a show.

[Mike]

Like, even some of the stuff they had to eat.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Like, you probably couldn't do a show nowadays because people be like, oh, you can't eat live worms. That's animal abuse. Like, legitimately, people would do that. And that's. That's like another way, like, kind of stuff's changed.

[Evan]

But, yeah, like, everybody's got a little wiser.

[Ryan]

I was watching YouTube before I came here, and I came across this video of Mark Rober shop. Holy crap. He's got a full on.

[Ben]

It's pretty cool, dude.

[Ryan]

It's insane. You guys got to watch it. And then on top of that, I've been watching a lot of Fantasy Factory lately. I don't know why. Just, like when I was sick, I just started watching them. I was like, I'll watch every single one because I haven't seen them all. And I started thinking, this shop is great, but I think. I think we gotta think about building something even bigger. Like, after watching that, like, both those, I'm like, God, this place is kind of small.

[Evan]

I like where your head's at. I mean.

[Ben]

Why don't we have a phone fired up?

[Ryan]

Like, why don't we have a foam pit in our shop?

[Mike]

Right.

[Ben]

I just don't know if we have it. Just.

[Mike]

That's exactly it.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Like, we should be able to, like, do some cool shit in here, but.

[Ben]

Like, any shit, because we got all of our.

[Mike]

I want a freaking skate park in the shop.

[Ben]

Okay. Yeah, we need an indoor pool. A foam pit, a skate park, zip lines.

[Ryan]

It's not that this place is small, it's just so filled up.

[Ben]

It is.

[Evan]

We maximize a lot of the space.

[Ryan]

I think we do one that's like four times the size of this dude.

[Evan]

I've always thought there's this old abandoned building in a town near us called Tools and More. Tools and More has been a host of shitty places that have gone out of business. But it started as a furniture store.

[Ben]

As a thing's pretty big, dude.

[Mike]

It just doesn't have high ceilings. But other than that, can you imagine like the races like you could have in there?

[Ben]

We could bring crazy carts.

[Evan]

But that place is probably like, I don't know, like 50,000 square feet or something like that.

[Mike]

Dude, it's got like that loading dock in the back. Yeah, it'd be. It's about as close as it's going to get for an abandoned warehouse. As far as that goes, we got.

[Ben]

The room, we got the land.

[Ryan]

That's what I'm thinking. We got like build something on there.

[Ben]

I like that idea.

[Ryan]

We build that and then we also build another strip and then use that for like either like rent them out or sell them.

[Evan]

There you go. That'll finance the five million dollar shop that we have. But yeah, no, I, I totally agree. I feel like we're goldfish and every time that we increase the size of the bowl, we just keep growing and getting more creative and stuff like that.

[Mike]

And this bigger bowl and this shop really is. It's like business, you know, that's what it would be. It's like still use it useful. But yeah, you got the offices, the podcast studio, the merch bay. Like it really is about half like strictly business for sure.

[Ben]

No, we definitely need in the next shop though to get just like more workspace because if we ever start a project.

[Evan]

Oh yeah, dude.

[Ben]

In it, if it's there for like more than a week, everything else just like kind of becomes a mess around it because there's just no room. So it's like you're like kind of like every time we think about starting a project, we're always like, is it worth it? Yeah, because then it's like basically takes like, let's just say 1/4 of our production area and then it's just out of the question.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So I think the next shop we need to have a spot dedicated to just builds that can take a long time. And then we also need to just hire a full time fabricator and mechanic and then just constantly have them on Cool builds.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I think that's the next step.

[Evan]

We just got to find a good one.

[Ben]

A good one and somebody who's also like good on camera and mostly just can work for us full time and kind of just chip away at.

[Ryan]

Agree.

[Ben]

Yeah, whatever. Always be working on one project and then maybe if there's like a hang up, we start the next one. But I don't know. I think that's like our biggest hold up right now would be our mechanical and fabrication skills.

[Mike]

The skills, but also like the, you know, like we're pretty capable at not fabricating. But when it comes to like if we need to build to another trike and a big wheel.

[Ben]

Yeah, we can build.

[Mike]

We can totally do that. Even that though, it's like we got to take a full day. It probably take you and I or whatever a full day to do that.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Evan]

To be fair, I am pretty impressed with how much we have learned in the last five years. Like we've went from hardly knowing how to change the oil on a dirt bike to, I don't know, you know, build the three wheeler downstairs and stuff like that. Like, we've, we've improved. Not a ton, but we've improved.

[Mike]

Dude, Ryan fixed a clutch on a Harley.

[Evan]

It took me three tries. I did get it figured out.

[Mike]

I was impressed. That's something a mechanic would do.

[Ben]

Yeah. Also though, we've never really put like a huge emphasis on the actual like build side of it. Mostly because we haven't done anything like that. Crazy. But I think we build the cool things. But then where we excel is ripping open the camaraderie of having fun with it. Exactly. Yeah. So if we can show the actual build process of it, maybe it's on a second channel even. That's more dives in deeper into it. Like Seaboy's TV garage.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I think that's a huge. When we get into that, it's going to be like a major expansion because when you can do more unique, just like one off crazier builds that we're unable to do right now.

[Evan]

Yeah, dude.

[Ryan]

Videos are gonna pop off. We're gonna go insane.

[Mike]

We've had pretty well bad luck with how they run, but pretty good luck finding some really unique stuff on Facebook Marketplace. But then gotta buy the. Yeah, it's like the step past that is a major step past that where we have these ideas in our head. Just bringing them to life is hard. You can't just assume that you're gonna find it on Facebook Marketplace one day.

[Evan]

I want an all wheel Drive Corvette.

[Ryan]

Oh, they're making one of those already.

[Mike]

Really?

[Evan]

Well, yeah, but no, like one.

[Ben]

One that you could like hoon. Yeah, like you take like a off road.

[Evan]

Yeah. Like Weston made the C5 one that he bought, but like that. But it's got all wheel drive and I can daily it in the winter. Put a snowplow in the front of it.

[Ben]

Oh my God.

[Ryan]

Be a sweet plow in front of Ben's Lambo. Well, that'd be insane. Did we just come up with a new video idea?

[Ben]

I don't know where you.

[Ryan]

So we'll go down with the saw and cut some spots.

[Ben]

That way we bumper put it right so we can just weld it straight to the frame. So it's going to basically just be a snowplow for the rest of its life. Or a salvage title.

[Ryan]

I had to get a new back bumper for my gtr so you can get.

[Ben]

It's only fair that I'm sure.

[Ryan]

I'm sure it will be just the same price.

[Mike]

Like we're throwing it around. What is it? Front bumper's got to be like 10 grand.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Evan]

And dude, I do it, but my car just doesn't work in the snow. So like, I'm sorry.

[Ben]

Right, right. Yeah, yeah. It's a fair, fair point. I think we should actually start finding like a really good fabricator though.

[Evan]

And you can't be shitty, right?

[Ben]

You got to be able to like either live around here or live here. Like it's going to be a full time.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

100 would pay you salary. That one dude that's coming up to do the R6. He might be our ticket. He might. We'll see how he does.

[Ben]

But that's.

[Mike]

I've seen that.

[Ryan]

Obviously he's familiar with R6 swaps, but.

[Ben]

Maybe he'll be really good at it.

[Evan]

He's a pretty gnarly builder.

[Mike]

Scrolling through his Instagram on all his builds got us pretty hyped up.

[Ryan]

This is so it's like he'd kind of.

[Ben]

It'd be.

[Ryan]

Maybe it'd be a good blend.

[Evan]

I don't know.

[Ben]

But speaking of YouTubers that have crazy setups, did you guys see Dude Perfect's headquarters? Not. I don't know if it's a headquarters or if it's just like their amusement park. Yeah, dude, that place is insane.

[Evan]

I'll pop a picture of it up here. But what. Is it real?

[Ben]

I think it is.

[Ryan]

I think the news articles maybe like misconstrued it a little bit. I think that they. That place isn't like their filming setup. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they bought it. And they're basically turned into like. You go there to like, do fun things. Kind of like a sky or even like Chucky. A terrible comparison. But it's more of like a business where like, hey, do you want to go to Dude Perfect. You know, and then you go and you shoot hoops and you jump on trampolines and you do stuff like that. I think it's more of a thing like that.

[Ben]

Good idea.

[Ryan]

Or maybe it is there, like headquarters like this, which. That place is so big, I feel like that'd be just overkill.

[Evan]

But yeah, I would say you're right. It's like a place for people to come.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I think it's like a brick. Not a. I guess a brick and mortar physical location that you can sell product or sell a good time.

[Mike]

Host a birthday party there.

[Ben]

That's exactly what it's gonna.

[Evan]

That would be the most.

[Ryan]

Birthdays here. And we'll have you manage it.

[Ben's Dad]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ben]

No.

[Ryan]

Yes. No. So you just have pizza.

[Ben]

I'd be pretty good at it, but I would.

[Mike]

I wouldn't like doing it.

[Ben]

Mike. Mike gets all the kids in the Razor, sends them around the track. One time that you were.

[Ryan]

You were bringing someone a ride in.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Our Maverick and you backed into that grandma's.

[Ben]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike]

Have we told that?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Funny. Yeah. So like, they came over and they were old shop.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Mike]

They were locals. So like, we'd seen them around plenty.

[Ben]

The kids were. They've watched the videos and I.

[Mike]

And we don't do this anymore. But I was like, I'll obviously be careful. We're gonna wear our seat belts. I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna.

[Evan]

Whatever.

[Ryan]

Different time.

[Mike]

Yep. It was a different time. And I just straight up backed into this grandma's car that. The grandma that brought the kids over and I, you know, felt so dumb. There's just no nothing. No excuse.

[Evan]

What did it do to her car?

[Mike]

It just.

[Ben]

It just, you know, the front bumper, like it like a perfect. Yeah.

[Ryan]

She had to get a whole new.

[Ben]

A wheel. The Maverick size wheel broke it made. Yeah. Oh, I did like shatter.

[Mike]

Remember it being one of those ones, you know, when you like pour steamy water over it and then suction it, pop it out.

[Ben]

Mike pours water over and gets a plunger. I'll fix it for you. Pulls the paint off.

[Mike]

She just was not. I was, you know, clearly felt bad. And she goes, ah, no big deal. We came over and wanted to ride.

[Ben]

She was like, I'll say I got hit in the Walmart.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think that is what she said.

[Evan]

Classic. What the heck? Yeah, that was good thing. We had a cool. She had a cool grandma.

[Mike]

Yeah, she was chill with it.

[Ben]

Gavin texted me after the last video of us destroying his three wheeler that we gave him. And he was like, dude, my Chinese moped. How is she? Is she okay? And I was like, no, she is not okay, dude. She's totaled. And he was like, oh, no. Like. Like undrivable. And I was like, yeah, bro.

[Evan]

Dude, it hardly drove before.

[Ben]

I hope you had insurance on that thing. And he was like, I didn't. I go, okay, put insurance on it on Monday and say it was in a hit and run. He was like, okay, okay. Yeah, I'll do that.

[Mike]

Progressive State Farm, anything. Just get it.

[Evan]

How are you supposed to pick up all the Gunnison girls, dude?

[Ben]

Oh, he'll figure it out. Yeah, I'm sure he'll figure it out.

[Evan]

I did do a little research post last podcast about the Taylor Swift thing. So I was thinking, all those people waiting for Taylor Swift tickets. I'm like, man, that a lot of people took their time and, you know, spent all day. Yeah. Waiting for these tickets. I looked it up. In 14 million people were trying to buy the, like, 2 million tickets. You have a better chance of getting into Harvard.

[Ben]

2.4 million.

[Evan]

2.4 million tickets. You have a better chance of getting in a Harvard than you do getting a Taylor Swift ticket.

[Ben]

Holy crap.

[Evan]

Which is pretty wild.

[Ben]

I don't. Is that true?

[Evan]

The Internet told me and, you know.

[Ben]

Is that true at all?

[Evan]

I don't know.

[Ben]

I guarantee I could not get into Harvard.

[Ryan]

Yeah. I feel like I have a better shot at getting the ticket.

[Mike]

100%.

[Ben's Dad]

That's true. Yeah.

[Evan]

Anyway, so the average U.S. income is $221 per day. They just search the average. I figured the average person spent eight hours waiting. Figured they wasted the whole day between waiting and then being upset about it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Evan]

So during that day, the total lost GDP of America of these 14 million people is 3. $3 billion. No, I'm sorry. The total. The total gdp loss was $3 trillion.

[Ben]

No, three.

[Evan]

Three billion. It was three.

[Ben's Dad]

No.

[Evan]

Yeah, that's three billion.

[Ben]

Dude.

[Evan]

I even put in the freaking little things.

[Ben]

Anyway, three.

[Evan]

It was $3 billion, and I lost that day.

[Ben's Dad]

$3 billion.

[Ryan]

Wow. That's ridiculous.

[Ben]

That's crazy.

[Evan]

No way.

[Ryan]

You know what's funny? So I was watching the VMAs just the other day, and Taylor Swift was winning everything. Dude.

[Evan]

Dude, Taylor Swift is popular. Even though you don't like her, I.

[Ryan]

Don'T have a problem with her. I didn't realize she was, like, super. She wins everything. And, like, my girlfriend is the opposite of Greta, and she was like, oh, man.

[Ben]

Like, why is she always winning? Like, they shouldn't.

[Ryan]

She shouldn't be allowed to win anymore.

[Ben]

Like, what?

[Ryan]

Like, she's too good. She's not allowed to win awards. But it was. It was actually really surprising, so it makes sense. Like, she clearly is. I mean, she's just a superstar. Yeah, like a superstar amongst the superstars is what I'm saying.

[Ben's Dad]

Yes.

[Ben]

She sold 2.4 million tickets. Tickets at $300 apiece. How much is that? I think that's, like, $700 million.

[Ben's Dad]

Wow.

[Ben]

It's got to be the point.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

It's crazy, bro. I.

[Ryan]

And it's just her.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ryan]

It's not like she's like a band.

[Ben]

Where you got the Tommy Lee on.

[Ryan]

The drums and whoever playing guitar. You know, it's like that. You gotta split it with. It's just her.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Me and Greta watched the documentary. She's. Greta's probably seen it 14 times, but I watched it with her the other day, and it's. It's really interesting, actually, because Taylor Swift, although she's extremely popular right now, like, she's really had, like, waves of, like, come up and, like, probably three years ago, like, people hated her.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Kanye did it, dude. Her and Kanye got this big feud.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Kanye started out.

[Mike]

I thought he made that famous.

[Ryan]

Took her award.

[Ben]

He said, took her award, and she was 17 or 19 or something.

[Mike]

Like, oh, that was a long time ago.

[Ben]

Yeah, but you have Kanye come up, bro. You win an award, and you have Kanye come up and take it from you and say that Beyonce deserves this award and you're, like, a teenager.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Like. Like, what. What. What would you be thinking? Like, that would be such an insane moment. And then.

[Evan]

Geez. Yeah. When you put it that way, I.

[Mike]

Remember I'd be scared.

[Ben]

Yeah. But I guess, like, yeah, the whole Kanye thing. And then, like, 10 years later made the song. I made that famous. And then. Yeah, like, everyone was like, yeah, he did. He did make that famous. Yeah. For a while. Why is she famous? Yeah, dude, Kanye is crazy, bro.

[Ryan]

He's got, like, deep platform, dude.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Major kicked off, man.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Evan]

I've still seen some stuff I feel like, isn't there. People are saying there was a strategic way to get out of all of his contracts. And that's why he said that seems pretty whack.

[Ben]

But I feel like Kanye goes on these episodes, like, at least once a year of just like, going around and saying, like, the craziest shit. And then it's like people almost forget that he's crazy. And then the next time he does it, they're like, I can't believe this. Or, what do you mean? He does this like once a year, twice a year? Yeah, it's.

[Mike]

But I think the worst part is when he's kind of spitting game, you know, like, he's saying agreeable stuff and he's kind of like hyping everybody up. I don't know when he was like, saying he was going to run for president. Like, there's a stint where he's like, talking pretty straight and then he'll go and then tip over the edge and start saying crazy shit. And then everyone has to go, ah, he's crazy again.

[Ben]

Dude, that would suck so much. And like, all the stuff he leaked about, like, Kim K. When. When they were like, going through their divorce and everything, and it sucks so much. Just like having your, like, anything you ever told the guy out or like, any kind of secret that he had when he's going through these episodes, you. You got to be like, no, no.

[Evan]

Don'T say, I hope he doesn't pick me.

[Ben]

Dude.

[Mike]

He must have been so torn up. I just didn't think he would. I thought he was too, too, too much ego, too big of a man to just like. I thought he was going to be like, yep. You know, F her FB Davidson.

[Ryan]

Just.

[Mike]

Just that. And. But no, he's. He, like, was being kind of a crybaby about it.

[Ben]

Dude. He's got, like, the emotional strength of a first grader.

[Ryan]

Exactly.

[Mike]

Like, I just was surprised to see at how horribly he was handling the divorce. I don't know.

[Ben]

Kind of like. He's extremely entertaining.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Ben]

So it's like kind of a catch 22. It's like, he is crazy, but he so entertaining.

[Mike]

I think he's still a legend.

[Ben]

Yeah. I love his music.

[Mike]

Yeah. Amazing music.

[Evan]

So I'm trying to find this clip. Kanye calls into the freaking. The Charlemagne the God podcast or something calls in. There was something.

[Ben]

Dude is such a loose cannon.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Finally he goes, my wife is out.

[Ben]

Here, a white boy with a 10.

[Ryan]

Inch penis, and you won't help me?

[Ben]

My wife is out here, a white.

[Ben's Dad]

Boy with a tennis Jesus, and you.

[Ben]

Telling me that's your entertaining?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Evan]

He's so dang funny. He's a loose cannon, though.

[Ben]

All right, well, should we have my dad on?

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Crowd right now. Yeah.

[Evan]

He's been waiting for his moment to shine.

[Ben]

All right, dad, hop on.

[Mike]

Hop on. It's nice hanging with you guys.

[Ben]

Appearing special.

[Ryan]

Good.

[Ben]

Special guest.

[Ryan]

People have been requesting for, like, to have someone's dad on. Yeah.

[Ben]

I thought it'd be a good twist on the podcast. And you've sat in probably 75% of the podcast audience chairs. So many pretty close. Makes Makes sense to have you on, though.

[Ben's Dad]

Well, thanks, boys. Yeah, welcome. Happy to be here.

[Ben]

How's it feel to be sitting on this side?

[Ben's Dad]

Pretty cool.

[Evan]

Have you ever done, like, a radio show before? You ever.

[Ben's Dad]

I have.

[Evan]

Like, this.

[Ben's Dad]

You have. I started my practice. I was on the radio a lot.

[Ben]

Really good experience.

[Ryan]

Doing what?

[Ben's Dad]

Selling the message.

[Ben]

Really?

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. I didn't know that 25, 28 years ago.

[Ben]

Is it kind of nerve wracking going on the radio, though, knowing that it's, like, live as you speak?

[Ben's Dad]

It was, yeah.

[Evan]

You can say whatever you want.

[Ben's Dad]

Very stressful.

[Evan]

And then you gotta just call me and be like, ryan, cut that out.

[Ben]

That is the nice part about this.

[Ryan]

You gotta be careful, though. Ryan's pretty good at chopping it up. Making people look bad just makes my.

[Ben]

Dad look so dirty because I'm dirty. I do that.

[Ben's Dad]

He wouldn't do that to me.

[Ben]

All right, dad. So we thought that it'd be an interesting take on your opinion on just, like, everything that you've witnessed over the years between everything we used to do, like, before we would film and then the early days of our YouTube channel. And obviously, like, as we've started the podcast and, like, all the stories that you've heard behind the scenes and everything, but I don't know, I just want to get, like, your take on kind of everything that, like, goes on. And I think the people would think that's super interesting too. Like, they always kind of like your standpoint of, like, everything that you witness us doing day to day and back when we were, like, kids just starting.

[Ben's Dad]

Well, first of all, on. On behalf. I think I'm speaking on behalf of all the parents. Everybody's just so incredibly proud of what you guys have done. You know, I remember when you started doing the screen printing in our furnace room and in bed's bedroom, and there'd be six, seven of you guys in there. And then it moved to the loft above the garage, and I had to put up with Micah living above the garage for all summer. I'D literally have to move his car so I could go to work. And then from there, it went to, you know, the shop, over the old shop. And now to what you guys. Now you guys are talking about, you know, you need 50,000ft. So it's just amazing. Absolutely amazing. And then, you know, that's not talking about the cars. You know, I used to think I needed cars and snowmobiles and fast motorcycles, and I had all of that. And it's like, when you guys started this thing, it's like I can just sit back and watch. And I get more thrill from that than having all this stuff myself. I was thinking the other day, how often do you see a Lamborghini in the lakes area? I've been here 30 years. I never saw one. And now we get to see one every day. And then I get to drive one.

[Ben]

Down on a gravel road.

[Ben's Dad]

So it's like, hell, it's just been amazing to watch you guys. So good job.

[Ben]

Hey, thank you.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Ben]

Okay. We didn't bring them on to pump our tires, but.

[Ryan]

Okay, so what was everyone's thoughts more so in, like, the beginning? Because obviously, you guys had to have been really confused, like, what the frick is going on? Because, you know.

[Evan]

Yeah. Like, the. Some of the first weekend, CJ brought.

[Ben]

A camera also, you. You saw, like, that was, like, your first time seeing an inside look to, like, what we were doing.

[Ben's Dad]

True.

[Ben]

When we were just, like, out messing around and, like, having fun. But, like, before that, you know, like, nobody documented.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So what are the boys up to? You know, like, what was your.

[Ben's Dad]

So here's what comes to mind. I. I thought you guys were just wasting your time until we went to Idaho on a trip and you missed out on that call from that mtv.

[Ben]

That's right.

[Ben's Dad]

And I thought, oh, shit. Wow. This. This. They're gaining traction here. I don't know what it's about. And then the next thing that happened was you guys had a drop, and I don't know what you collected. Maybe 18 grand or something like that. And I thought, oh, I get it. This. This has potential to do something. And then. And so one of my mentors said there's different levels to look at when you're building a practice. I'm a chiropractor. You can have a vision that's as big as your community. It can be as big as your state. That's the next vision. And then you can have a national attraction. People will fly in from around the country. Or what's the top? You can have a Global impact, you know, 100%. And when I started seeing addresses on your merch going out to Germany and New Zealand and Australia and Canada, it's like, oh, my God, these guys have something that they don't even realize they have a global impact. Now it's just a matter of scaling it, you know, and it's been awesome to watch it.

[Ryan]

That's so true about the going back to, like, it's as big as your, I guess, like, as you want to make it. And I always tell that because there's, like, local rappers and stuff in Fargo and, like, they're a local rapper and they're, like, trying to, you know, take off, for instance, and they're like, yeah.

[Ben]

I, like, need to.

[Ryan]

They're making songs about Fargo and stuff.

[Ben]

I'm like, dude, like.

[Ryan]

And they're asking everyone to, like, listen to it and reshare it. You got the Internet, you got the world at your fingertips. And that's. That's the beauty of, like, today, you.

[Ben's Dad]

Know, you guys have that machine. It's running. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. I was up early yesterday. I was up at 5, and I watched him drive in at 6, you know, and, you know, that. That brings up another message that you guys can send to your viewers. You know, it's like, you didn't get here by accident. I watched you guys grind hard. You know, I've watched him come home on the cameras at 3 o' clock in the morning a lot, you know, and so you got to have a vision, but you don't get there. Sitting on your ass and just thinking about it. You guys have action. And so I was up early yesterday. I was watching this guy, and he talked about, you know, your ladder to success. And he said, the top of your ladder needs to be above the clouds. And you know, what's up there, you know where you want to go. You just don't know what it takes to get there. But you got all these steps to go through, and you just focus on the next step and the next step and as you get closer to those clouds that will reveal itself, you know, eventually. So, yeah, you guys have been awesome to watch.

[Ben]

What's your, like, favorite thing that we do?

[Ben's Dad]

Well, I can tell you what my least favorite. Okay, you know, you guys, before I stepped up, you guys were talking about having Ken come and do his reveal of. Of the no neck brace thing. And I think I'm speaking on behalf of all the parents there as well. I played this game long enough. We can get into it. I was On a course of seeing the world on either a snowmobile or two wheels and then a snowmobile wreck just definitely was a defining moment when Ken broke his neck. You know that as a parent, that is what I. I live in this world of people that have injuries, and now 30, 40 years down the road, they're dealing with them every day. So that's my biggest concern, is you guys getting hurt, you know, and now you're bringing in talent that's way better than you and way skilled. More skilled than you.

[Ryan]

And so also little weasels.

[Ben's Dad]

Well, yeah, I'm kidding.

[Ryan]

I'm kidding.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. Evan's amazing joke. I mean, he is. He's amazing to watch. So what was your question? What? What.

[Ben]

Oh, just like, what. What do you most enjoy? I figured that was what you were gonna say.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, on.

[Ben]

On, like, the least enjoy. And I agree completely. Like, after, especially after, like, the Ken part, all the parents in, like, basically anyone close to us, whether it was, like, texting or calling or in person, they were like, I love what you guys do, but watching that makes all of the rest, like, hard to watch and not worth it.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. When I got that call from you, he said, dad, come. Come and check out Ken. He just hurt his neck. You know, I've taken care of Ken for a long time, so I know his neck, and he was leaning back on that couch, and his neck was swollen out to here.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

And I'm like, you guys get your asses back here and get him. You know, take him in, you know?

[Evan]

Yeah, that's.

[Ben's Dad]

That's the. The bad. That's negative. But, yeah, the great thing is, you know, just. I love success. I love. You know, I wake up every day trying to be more successful. And to see you guys, you know, like, I've already said, you know, I just love the idea of striving for success. What's next? So that's. What's. It's not about the cars. It's not about the money. It's. It's seeing you guys evolve. You know, I see you guys sit down here, and you can just spark up conversation, and it just rolls. Well, that's. That takes talent that just didn't start, you know? And, you know, my mentor also told me, those that can move, the. Move people with a message. That's a form of power. So you guys have a lot of young people watching you. For example, I just talked about, you guys work. You work your asses off. You know what? And it bugs me to know that there's worker shortages out there. And people are sitting at home on their ass. It's like, get up and get moving. And you guys can be an example of that. And you are an example of that. But your message is far reaching in that respect as well. People, I read those comments. These kids that have had whatever parents die or divorce and all the shit that we come into nowadays, and you guys can make them laugh and cheer them up and give them a better day. That's why you're here. That's why you're here is to serve. You know, we're all on this planet to serve people. So ultimately you guys are serving people through entertainment.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Hopefully making them happy.

[Ben's Dad]

You know, I see the crowd that shows up at some of your events. It's like some of these kids, you know, they just need, need a little, little bump, little boost, little inspiration as to what's possible. I mean, you guys had. Came from families that are successful.

[Ben]

Yes, we saw like the success, but also we didn't have like any like kind of handouts or anything like that.

[Ben's Dad]

That's my point. That's where I was going.

[Ben]

Do you remember when I was. I had to have been what, 13 or 14 years old, and I rolled Sam. Sam's four wheeler and I broke like the plastics on it. It was like 800 bucks. I didn't know I didn't have any money. And you made me go and get a job, which wasn't even legal. To get a job, I had to have been 13 at the cormorant store. And I would ride my dirt bike to and from work. And then basically I've had a job ever since then, but probably had to.

[Evan]

Work like three months for that 800 bucks. I probably did plastic.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, but everything after that, I mean, just like having a job and the same thing with like all the guys you just bought. And we just bought like, we bought our cars, we bought our, our dirt bikes and four wheelers and everything. So like, nothing.

[Ben's Dad]

You wouldn't work for Dave.

[Ben]

Yeah. And then I was working for Dave.

[Ben's Dad]

I don't think, I don't think I ever told you this. I don't think he did either. But. But one day I knew you had to be to work at 7 and it was like 10 after 7 and he's still in there sleeping, sawing logs.

[Ryan]

Oh, man, that's been like the one.

[Ben's Dad]

Day I kicked the door open, I said, get your ass to work. And then I called Dave. I said, dave, let him have it.

[Evan]

Make sure my son fears his life.

[Ben]

Oh, he did and he did. I still remember it.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, you know, so you were part of.

[Ben]

No shit. I talked about that story on this podcast before. No kidding.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. I called him in advance. I said, dave, no, this is a learning lesson. Let him have it.

[Evan]

He's going to be 20 years old.

[Ben]

I was like 18 minutes late and Dave comes in just screaming. And I was like, fuck this guy. I was like, I worked for him for four years and I was 18 minutes late one time. And then I think he put you behind.

[Ben's Dad]

I think he put you on just a. Did a job scrubbing those pads that were sitting in the swamps.

[Ben]

God damn.

[Ben's Dad]

You know.

[Evan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

That was a defining moment in my life, I swear to God. After that, I remember vividly him screaming at me and I, I remember just being like, dude, I was 18 minutes late and this is how I was being like treated for it. I am one, never working for somebody because of how terrible of an experience I had just throughout the years, but mostly in that moment. And two, I was like, when I have employees, I am not going to treat them like this. I will not. Like shit happens and you're 20 minutes late. I am not going to treat a 17 year old kid in such a way of just like disrespect. Like there's just like no respect. So the fact that you actually put.

[Evan]

Them up to it.

[Ben]

Put them up to it. No, thank you. Thank you. Because that was like had such a defining moment in my life, which is so funny. It's so funny. I've held, I've had beef with Dave ever since then, but it was you behind it. That's hilarious. Actually. It's gotta be kind of cool for you.

[Ryan]

Just because you grew up dirt biking. You're, you're a huge. I mean like you were saying earlier you were super into snowmobiling and motorcycles and now it's like you pass that down to Ben and he's basically made a career. Like he's technically. I mean, he's a professional in his.

[Ben]

Own way with it.

[Ryan]

You know, he's not out racing or doing X Games, but he's getting paid.

[Ben]

To run.

[Ben's Dad]

Getting paid to have fun.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, we've always, man, we've gone on some crazy adventures throughout the years though. But like back when I was 12 years old, you'd put me on the snowmobile and I'd sit in front of you and hold on to the bar.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, I had that switch back and it had the loop on it. You know, we put on hundreds of miles.

[Ben]

Thousands.

[Ben's Dad]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben]

Thousands.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Riding trails.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. And leading.

[Ben]

I hate trails now. After that, though, we, like.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben]

We put on so many miles on trails. And then once I was, like, old enough to just ride my own snowmobile, I was like, I don't really want to ride trails.

[Evan]

You're like, I want to go somewhere else.

[Ben]

Yeah. Kind of over this.

[Evan]

So do you remember in any moments, probably when Ben was a little younger, maybe when we were doing a YouTube thing that you. You wanted to step in, just be like, hey, buddy, don't do that.

[Ben's Dad]

I'm coming back from the cormorant store in the car, and he pulls out of the trail that goes down alongside the road in a snowmobile. He was little. I mean, little. Had to stand up.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

On the sled.

[Ben]

Like, my feet wouldn't touch. Touch the running boards if I was sitting.

[Ben's Dad]

And I'm going 55 miles an hour in the car, and the snowmobile is, you know, dude, you were losing.

[Ben]

I had that 550 fan just wound.

[Ben's Dad]

And I'm trying to think, okay, so how am I gonna deal with this one when we actually get home and meet in the driveway?

[Ben]

I just smoked him on the way home.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. I was behind him.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

You know, so I'm like, how do I keep the lid on this kid? And. Well, by that time, it was. He was too far out of the box.

[Ben]

I remember you getting home just screaming.

[Ben's Dad]

At me, it's just so dangerous. I mean, he's got a. He's got a row of trees on this side and a highway with cars coming at him on this side, and It's.

[Evan]

You're, like £70.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Evan]

No control over it at all, really.

[Ben's Dad]

You know, I knew at that point there was just no stopping it.

[Ben]

It's funny, though, because I was just a chip off the block in that aspect. I was like, what do you mean?

[Evan]

You do that?

[Ben]

We do that all the time when we're together. You're just mad because I was alone. Technically not following you.

[Ryan]

You.

[Ben]

I was like, this is not fair at all. It was like, how are you yelling at me for going fast when you taught me that?

[Ben's Dad]

Point is well taken.

[Evan]

Do you feel like you're.

[Ben]

Was mom Like, I don't know. Jason seems like. I wonder where he learned that.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, she was always good at that.

[Evan]

I feel like there's, like, the phrase, you get your payback for the way you were.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Do you feel like you're getting your payback now?

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You think? Do I stress you out.

[Ben's Dad]

You know, like, I say when. When I see. When I see you guys doing wheelies over black ice. It's a half inch thick and falling, and there's. Yeah, yeah. No, I just know that eventually we run out of rope and. And, you know.

[Evan]

Yeah, I think we've been. We've done our best in the last few years to try to reel in the rope as much as we can.

[Ben's Dad]

I think you have.

[Evan]

I'd agree with that, you know?

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that, man.

[Ben]

Back in the early days, though, I.

[Evan]

Can'T imagine that's what I mean. I just. I'm trying to think back to us when we were, like, you know, 19, 20, 21. Didn't really know anything about anything, and we were just doing whatever and then filming it. And, like, I. My mom still says, like, she'll text me before she watches the video. I was like, are you okay?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Evan]

Like, if it's about something, I'm trying to think of one that maybe happened, like, with my backflip jet ski. She texted me before, like, before I watch this. Are you okay? And I was like, yeah, I'm good. She's like, okay, then she can watch it. Otherwise, it stresses her out too much.

[Ben's Dad]

You know what used to piss me off? Randy was always so much better at this than me. I mean, he was so good. Like, you guys would total something out, you know?

[Ben]

What do you mean, wood? What are you talking about?

[Ben's Dad]

You guys would wreck something terribly, you know, And Randy's just like, oh, okay, you know, let's replace it. And he was just always so much cooler about you guys wrecking than me. You know, you'd wreck something, and I would just be pissed.

[Ben]

Yeah, I know.

[Evan]

Like, what?

[Ben]

Just terrified to just tell him I broke it.

[Ryan]

Oh, like, like your dirt bike or.

[Ben's Dad]

Something when he broke his. You know, your brother broke your ankle or whatever you guys did.

[Ben]

Yeah, but, like, I remember, like, breaking snowmobiles, like, as a kid too. Oh, man, I was so scared to come home and tell him the worst. I think I'm like. Like, gotta be the complete opposite of that, though.

[Ben's Dad]

You are. Yeah. And I don't get you guys, because it's like you relish when something's broken and you look forward to destroying something.

[Ben]

Well, it's kind of funny. Have you ever done it?

[Ben's Dad]

No. Yeah, my conservative mindset is just take care of stuff and. And, you know, pamper it and, you know.

[Ben]

Yeah, but, like, who cares? Like, it's just, like. It's just stuff.

[Ben's Dad]

Well, that's what makes you guys Great is because you know that you can replace it, you know, with something even better. You know, it's like when you're burning the bumper off your GTR siege, I'm like, what the hell?

[Ryan]

I always wanted to shoot flames doing.

[Ben]

What's funny though is most people probably think that way and then. So most people watch it and they are like, it's entertaining because they can never see themselves doing it. But then in your. It kind of pisses you off watching it too. It's like, I don't know. I think that's maybe, you know, what keeps some people coming back is the entertainment factor and then the disbelief of some people in certain aspects. But yeah, you used to get so mad at me when I would break something and I. That was another thing too. I. I just remember always being like, breaks. It happens. I'm not gonna, like, get too hung up on it, dad, I'll go work.

[Evan]

75 hours to pay for this handguard at the Cormorant.

[Ben]

Yeah, I was like, I'm paying for it. Like, what's the biggest, big deal? That's funny though. So you kind of mentioned like the adventures that you've gone on, whether it's on two wheels or, or snowmobiling. What. What have you done? Like 50 states on a, on a motorcycle?

[Ben's Dad]

48.

[Ben]

48 states.

[Ben's Dad]

And then like, for some reason I didn't get into Alabama.

[Evan]

I was like, oh, okay, you didn't hit Alaska or something, but.

[Ben's Dad]

No, I've been to Alaska.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. When I remember, like an amazing trip.

[Ben]

As a kid, I remember you just like going on like two week motorcycle trips and then you just like come back and you'd be home for like a week and then go on like another two week motorcycle trip. Where were you going? Like, why were you doing that? Like, where were you going?

[Ben's Dad]

What was the drive? Yeah, I guess, you know, I don't know because I sure don't have anymore.

[Ben]

But I just remember you like, like you didn't used to do that and then you got a motorcycle and then you were just like gone for the next five years.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, so I bought that BMW GS, which is kind of an on. Off road, but it's just a, It's a touring beast. And I don't know, I put a hundred thousand some hundred and some thousand miles on that bike. Went to Alaska, went to every province in Canada. It's like I would study an area. Okay, so. So I read this book, the drummer of the band Rush. That's what started it. Guy's name Is Neil Pert. He's dead, Just died. I read this book, it's called Ghost Rider. Basically what happened in that book is Neil Pert's daughter died in a car accident and his wife died of cancer. All within like two years. He, he quits the band, gets on a GS adventure motorcycle, BMW, and he tours all the provinces in Canada up to Alaska, comes all the way down into the States. I think he goes all the way down to the tip of South America and he documents this trip in the book. And I'm reading this book and I'm thinking, God, I would love to see and experience what he experienced. So I go and buy that. GS went to Alaska, went all the way up to the Arctic Circle. Little village called Inuvik. As far as you can go on a motorized vehicle went through a thousand miles of permafrost over permafrost road. Just amazing.

[Ben]

You were just addicted to it.

[Ben's Dad]

I was addicted to it. This was a 10 year run.

[Ryan]

And just do it by yourself.

[Ben's Dad]

Most of it was.

[Ben]

So when you're like just hauling down the road on a motorcycle at any given point where you're like, one, this is like kind of dangerous. But two, that's like, I'm kind of over this. Like after a hundred thousand miles on a motorcycle.

[Ben's Dad]

No. I don't know. There was such an adrenaline rush. I think it's 500 miles across this frozen tundra road that's built on the tundra. And then I get up there and I'm checking into this camp. It's not even a campground. It's just a place to put pitch a tent, you know, and everything. Because it's permafrost. Everything is built off the ground. Yeah. Like the houses are all on stilts. Even this little campsite was a wood platform built off the ground because the heat of your body would sink you in. Permafrost. Right. You're so far north that, you know, like TV dishes normally are like this up into the sky, you know, like your Dish Network. Yeah. You're so far north they point down.

[Ben]

What?

[Ben's Dad]

It's so strange. So it's just goofy stuff like that that you experience in these adventures.

[Ben]

Didn't you blow a tire on that trip like in the middle of the 500 miles?

[Ben's Dad]

So I get up to this little Eskimo village and the guy goes, how was your trip? I said it was good. It's all Inuits. And there's one spot halfway across where there's gas station to fill up. So this road is made out of crushed Shale. And it was like razor blades on that tire. Okay. And I get back across the permafrost 500 miles to what's called Klondike Corner, which is now tar again. It's. It's the Elkan Highway. And I look at my tire and it's gone. I mean, it's just Fred showing. And I am still a day from Alaska to. You know, I'm a day from. From a town, a civilized town. And I'm like, this is never going to get me there. And so I'm driving down the road and sure enough, it goes flat in.

[Ben]

The middle of nowhere.

[Ben's Dad]

I'm in the middle of nowhere. I'm. I'm 150 miles from Tokalaska. So my dad's a world traveler and he always said, you know, when in need, the right people show up. So I'm sitting there for probably three hours because it's full. All the tourists from that go to Alaska, they were all. They're all back down. This is like the first week in September. And this guy comes by and he. I said, I got a flat tire. I don't know what I'm going to do. He said, I'll see if I can send you some help. And I'm sitting there. So now three hours have gone by. Oh, my God.

[Evan]

So he's gonna send you help. You're just stuck on the side of the road.

[Ben's Dad]

I'm sitting on the side of this gravel road.

[Ben]

Do you have a phone?

[Ben's Dad]

There ain't no service up there even if I had it.

[Ben]

Okay. What the heck? Okay, you're literally.

[Ben's Dad]

Now listen. When in need, the right people show up. I'm sitting there. It's like, what the hell am I gonna do? Here comes this truck, this county truck with a Tommy Lift on the back of it. The guy goes, we're going to take care of you. Well, halfway between Klondike Corner and Tok, Alaska, is a Alaska Highway Department service road. Basically, these two guys live there year round and they just keep the road open so that people can get through. So I was about a half hour from that. Anyway, we get the truck, the bike in the back of the truck. We get back, the guy gets on a satellite phone, calls into a guy he thinks in Tok, Alaska, has a tire for my bike.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Ben's Dad]

He says, I think he drives a BMW, but we'll call him. So he calls him on the satellite phone. Yeah, I got a spare tire in my shed. The guy goes, hey, you can take my truck. Gives me his truck. I drive To Tok, Alaska, with the rim off the back of the bike. This guy puts the tire on the rim didn't quite fit, but he made it fit. And I drive back, put it on the bike. I take $200 bills and I lay it on the counter of this guy that gave me his truck. It's the least I could do, right? And then I get on the bike and I drive. I get to Fairbanks, where I'm going to have new tires put on, and I open my saddlebag and there's those $200 bills. What the heck? You stuck them back in there, you know. So back to your question. It's just stuff like that. It was just so cool. So many cool experiences. People just, you know, and then you meet other bikers and just awesome.

[Ben]

So what about the one story of the. The one night that you were going and then that car passed you?

[Ben's Dad]

Fourth of July, we closed our office for, like 10 days. And I thought, I'm not going to sit around. I get on. I had an FJR Yamaha. It's like a crotch rocket touring. Crotch rocket, just a missile. I want to go to Seattle, experience Washington, see the mountains. And what instigated that trip was I was watching this thing on the Discovery Channel about these four guys that died on Mount Hood, which is in Washington. And I was looking at the scenery and the beauty, and I thought, oh, man, that's beautiful. Maybe I'll do that. And this is like in January. I'm watching this. Maybe this summer I'll do that. So then get out there. I look at Mount Hood, drive along the Columbia river, go to Seattle, and just beautiful, you know, Just absolutely beautiful. Now it's July 3rd. I wake up and I'm in Oregon. And at the time, Oregon had a. A rule or a law that you couldn't pump your own gas. You had to have an attendant fill up your motorcycle, your or your car. So anyway, I like, I could get the hell out of this state. It's July 3rd. I got to be out of the state by July 4th, because you can't count on any mom being open, gas station being open. So it's like, okay, I'm going to haul ass across Oregon. It's just before dark. I'm going down the road, and this grand dam comes up.

[Ben]

Whoa.

[Ben's Dad]

Comes up behind me, goes around me. And he's hauling ass down this tar road. And I'm thinking, okay, I'll just get behind this guy. And he's doing. I'm looked down. I'm doing 105 miles an hour.

[Evan]

At night, too.

[Ben's Dad]

At night.

[Mike]

Geez.

[Ben's Dad]

Just before dark.

[Evan]

Yeah, dusk.

[Ben's Dad]

And I thought, this is stupid. So I back off, I ride, and about 10 minutes later, I come across this. What looked like a cow. It was like you took a watermelon with all your might and threw it at a concrete wall. It was the only reason I knew it was a cow, because I could see it was a big bull head, you know, with that fuzzy forehead. And otherwise there is just. I got the brakes on, and I'm just navigating through this pile of exploded cow. You guys have no idea. And then I look out in about 100 yards out into this field is this car on fire. And I'm like, I'm not going out there.

[Ben]

But the middle of the night at.

[Ben's Dad]

This point, it's dark.

[Evan]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, it's dark. And I hear this woman screaming.

[Evan]

Oh, geez.

[Ben's Dad]

It was horrible, you guys. I had ptsd, and I still kind of do when I think about it, and. And I thought, I got to go help her. She was sleeping in the backseat. It crushed the. The top of the car down and broke his neck. And she was trying to get him out of this burning car. And I'm walking up, assessing this thing, and it's like, ah, I have to help her. So she couldn't get him out. She couldn't get the door open, you know, and so I put the shield down, and I got all my body armor on and my gloves, leather gloves, and I put my shield on, on my helmet, and I'm. Why the hell won't this door. And I thought, well, maybe it's locked. And I reach in and I. And it was locked, you know, and flames are blowing over the top of this guy in this car. It's horrible.

[Evan]

Jesus.

[Ben's Dad]

And. And I. And I. I get the door open, and then I. I mean, you are so full of adrenaline. Grab this guy, and I go to rip him out of that car. Well, the seatbelt is on him, you know, so now he's laying out of the car and reaching through these flames, and I. And I undo the seat belt, and I. I pull him on. I could see right away he's got a broken neck. Yeah, he didn't make it. You know, he didn't make it. So I was. By this time, there's other people walking up on the scene. And I just got out of there, you know, he's. I knew he's. They were going to take care of him anyway. And I get back on my bike now. You guys don't know what an adrenaline rush is until you go through something like that. It was. I get to Twin Falls, Idaho, and I'm just driving slow and it's pitchfork black. It's midnight now, July 4th, and I get pulled over by a highway patrolman going too slow on the freeway. I told him what I just experienced. He says, go get a hotel, buddy.

[Evan]

Yeah, just go to bed. Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

So I go into this hotel parking lot. I'm thinking, I'm not going to pay 150 bucks for a hotel and go. I'm not going to sleep.

[Evan]

I can't lay there anyway.

[Ben's Dad]

So I get back on the bike, go to Jackson Hole, have a little breakfast, go through the Yellowstone park, end up in Glendive, Montana that night, you know, just all on adrenaline, you know, Geez. You know, you hear about guys doing iron butts, which is a thousand miles in a seat. You know, you get off to fill up with gas, but. Thousand miles in a day.

[Ben]

Yep.

[Ben's Dad]

Did 1800 miles that day.

[Ben]

Oh, crap.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah, man. Yeah. It was just an adrenaline kick for 10 years. Just awesome.

[Ben]

So you did that Uncle Buck, your brother, he's done like what, the end. All the way to like Argentina on a. More.

[Ben's Dad]

I think he did.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Like. Like this.

[Ben's Dad]

And he had a. He had an experience where, where he's. He's on this road in Mexico and, and these, these Mexicans are holding a two by four with spikes. So you could not drive through on a motorcycle, right?

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

And he gets off his bike and. And I think he bought him off for 50 bucks. And they let him go. And they had a family on the ground.

[Evan]

What.

[Ben's Dad]

They had stopped a family and they had them like laying face down on the ground holding them ransom.

[Ben]

Holy crap.

[Ben's Dad]

My brother knew, you know, he had everything.

[Ben]

Yeah. It's kind of hidden, sketchy area.

[Ben's Dad]

And kept. Kept a 50 bill because he kind of was probably suspecting. Anyway, he came back, he had ptsd.

[Ryan]

Was he able to pay off the. For the family that was laying there?

[Ben's Dad]

I don't know.

[Ben]

I think 50 bucks, he's a.

[Ben's Dad]

You go, amigo.

[Evan]

He was like, I'm out of here.

[Ryan]

Holy.

[Ben's Dad]

So that's why we do this stuff, you know, it's.

[Ben]

Grandpa did the same too, didn't he? Yeah. Like all over the country. All over the world. Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

He just, he's 74 years old, just drove his motorcycle down to Cabo. And then I talked to him last week, he says, yeah, I think I'm gonna ship my bike over to Europe, man. I wonder.

[Ben]

I wonder if I'm gonna Do that one day.

[Evan]

When's your vagabond adventure coming?

[Ben]

Yeah, I don't know. It sounds like I got the same genes. I got the same adventurous soul. I don't know. I don't know if I have it that much, though.

[Ben's Dad]

Was it your dad?

[Evan]

The one that was on the sailboat?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah.

[Evan]

That's a great story.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. That's too much. Yeah, we won't get into that. That's a whole nother podcast. That, again, is PTSD. You know, when your dad's missing for 21 days, they find him washed up on a beach in the Louisiana bayou.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Evan]

Kidding. I can't wait to see where you go on your motorcycle, Ben, you know.

[Ben]

On my dirt bike?

[Evan]

Yeah, on your dirt bike.

[Ben]

Probably not very far. I don't know. I don't really have much of, like, a desire to even get a motorcycle.

[Evan]

Not yet.

[Ben]

Maybe one day, though.

[Ben's Dad]

Oh, this is cool.

[Evan]

It's kind of fun to do something different. Here's some cool stories. I hadn't heard any of those, but I feel like we've had a million stories. Yeah, I would say that that's the tip of the iceberg there.

[Ryan]

So.

[Ben's Dad]

Yeah. Yeah. Again, man, it's just. It's been so fun hanging out here. Thanks for letting me come over and just hang, guys.

[Evan]

Of course.

[Ryan]

Of course.

[Evan]

We miss when you come over on Fridays and grab a beer and hang out with us.

[Ben]

Remember when he used to come over for, like, a couple months there, and then on Friday would, hey, is it cool if I drink a bubbler? And then after a couple months, he goes, how much alcohol is in these? I go, there is none. There's no alcohol in them.

[Ben's Dad]

And he's like, oh, I was still getting a buzz.

[Ben]

I could have swore I was getting.

[Ben's Dad]

A buzz.

[Ben]

Because, yeah, you'd be like, oh, hey, I might have two of these. And I'm like, go for it, man. There's no sugar.

[Mike]

Oh, that's funny.

[Ben's Dad]

I got more stories, you guys, when you were little.

[Ben]

What kind of story? Yeah, what are we talking about? What are we talking about here?

[Ben's Dad]

Well, I remember the time that CJ puked across the whole back of my car.

[Evan]

Yeah, dude, you are.

[Ben]

You're a puker. Dude.

[Ryan]

I got car sick because. So we were on a dirt bike trip in Ely, and it was just, like, this really windy road, and I was on the very back, and it was super hot. I remember.

[Ben]

And I kept saying.

[Ryan]

I was like, you didn't say nothing.

[Ben]

I said, we put the window down.

[Ben's Dad]

Stop.

[Ryan]

I swear to God, I said, can we put the window down?

[Ben's Dad]

It's like when he puked. He did this, but it was like it compressed it, and we had puke.

[Ben]

He was in the back.

[Ben's Dad]

And there was puke on the dash.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I puked. Yeah.

[Evan]

It was like, oh, my goodness.

[Ben]

Everyone in the car is covered.

[Evan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ryan]

That was embarrassing. Not really, but that was funny. More so.

[Ben]

All right, well, on that note, I think we're gonna wrap up the podcast. If you made it this far in the podcast and you're not subscribed, hit subscribe, and we'll see you guys next time.

[Ben's Dad]

Peace.