Gm! In this episode, Eugene Chen, CEO of Ellipsis Labs, joins us to break down Solana’s evolving market structure and the launch of Phoenix Perps. We explore onchain trading design, routing and sequencing challenges, MCP’s role, and how user behavior and incentives are shaping the future of DeFi.

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:25) Solana Market Structure Shift

(8:07) Why Phoenix Perps Now

(21:16) Why Perps Need No Router

(29:39) What Solana Must Improve

(34:49) The Block Builder Problem

(43:24) Will DeFi Mimic TradFi?

(52:48) Phoenix Perps Launch Plans

(53:38) Closing Comments

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The Future of DeFi Trading: Routers, Perps, and MCP | Eugene Chen