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When a language model tells you it's absolutely certain, is it actually more likely to be right? Kaitlyn Zhou's research says: not necessarily — sometimes confident phrasing correlates with *worse* accuracy, echoing a very human Dunning-Kruger effect. In this conversation, Kaitlyn (soon an assistant professor at Cornell) walks through why LLMs talk this way in the first place — tracing the tendency back through training data and the RLHF annotation process, where it turns out humans don't love confidence so much as they punish uncertainty — and what that does to the person on the other end of the chat window, who turns out to rely on confident (and even flatly-stated) answers far more than they should. We also get into her newer work on voice cloning, and how a cloned voice can sound more "native" and more trustworthy than the real one it's based on.
Reasoning models don't just answer your question — they *think out loud* first. In this episode we dig into the class of AI models that generate intermediate chains of thought before arriving at a final answer, exploring how the internal reasoning process works. Are these models genuinely "thinking," or is something else going on under the hood?
This week we’re covering model distillation: the technique of using a large "teacher" model's outputs to train a smaller, cheaper "student" model that mimics it. They cover the two big reasons labs do this — making lighter, faster, more focused models for specific tasks, and the more contentious use case of effectively copying a rival's flagship model by hammering its API with questions (with a callback to the old Bing/Google search controversy). They also get into why it's so hard to prove distillation happened, why some models occasionally introduce themselves as "Claude," and a surprisingly old idea: a 2015 paper by Geoffrey Hinton, Jeff Dean, and Oriol Vinyals on distilling knowledge using the full probability distribution over a model's outputs — not just its single most likely answer — and what that "soft label" approach captures about how a model relates concepts to each other.
What happens when a Stanford linguistics professor turns his attention to AI chatbots — and the surprisingly invisible ways humans misunderstand them? Chris Potts joins the show to unpack the hidden failure modes in how we interact with AI, what it really means to become a more fluent user, and why these language-wielding systems are genuinely alien in ways we're only beginning to reckon with. His perspective sits at a rare intersection of linguistics, cognition, and machine learning — and it shows.
Still summer break: back next week by Katie Malone
Summer break: back soon by Katie Malone
After a five-year hiatus, the podcast that burned out partly over the tedium of writing episode descriptions is back — and using AI agents to handle exactly that task. The season-11 finale turns the lens on the podcast itself, putting the AI agents built throughout the season to work on real production tasks. It's a fitting, self-referential close to a season spent dissecting how agents actually function — and a honest look at what they can (and can't) take off your plate.
What if building more highways made your commute *slower*? That's the paradox at the heart of AI agent economics: even as per-token inference costs have plummeted dramatically over the past two years, total LLM spending keeps climbing. Drawing on a surprising lesson from Robert Moses's mid-century New York infrastructure projects, this episode unpacks why cheaper compute doesn't necessarily mean cheaper AI — and what's really driving the economics of running agents at scale.
Capabilities get all the attention when it comes to AI agents — but what happens when a highly capable agent makes a bad decision in the real world? Trust, oversight, and control are the unglamorous but critically important flip side of the agentic AI story. This episode digs into the security concerns that emerge when you combine powerful models with real-world tool access, and why judgment (or the lack of it) might matter just as much as raw capability. --- Website: https://lineardigressions.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/linear-digressions/id941219323 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1JdkD0ZoZ52KjwdR0b1WoT Substack: https://substack.com/@lineardigressions
Whether you work best solo or thrive in a team, you know collaboration is complicated — and it turns out AI agents face the same tensions. This episode dives into multi-agent systems, exploring how networks of AI agents can overcome the individual limitations of a single model, and what the research says about when collaboration actually helps versus when it just adds noise. Think scaling laws, but for teamwork. --- Website: https://lineardigressions.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/linear-digressions/id941219323 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1JdkD0ZoZ52KjwdR0b1WoT Substack: https://substack.com/@lineardigressions