Podcast
Litigating AI
Hosted by Garfield AI · EN
Litigating AI takes you inside the transformation happening with AI and the legal industry, revealing how new technologies are reshaping law practice, procedure and access to justice.
Hosted by Philip Young, CEO and Co-Founder of Garfield AI, the world’s first AI law firm authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The podcast brings together leading voices across law, tech and legal policy to examine the opportunities and challenges emerging as AI becomes embedded in law and legal work.
Each episode delivers lively conversation and debate on real-world AI applications, emerging regulation, and the shifting boundaries between algorithms and advocacy.
The aim of Litigating AI is simple: to cut through the noise and provide expert insight into how the legal profession is changing in real-time - and what that means for those working within it.
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Emelie Skoghag: How Legal Technologists Transform Law Firms
Mar 1100:40:26Tap to summarizeWe explore the craft of legal technology with Emelie Skoghag, from mapping real workflows to building AI-enabled processes that people actually use. We share how gamified adoption, flexible data handling, and a focus on return on experience lift quality, confidence, and speed.• defining the legal technologist role at the law–tech edge• mapping core processes before choosing tools• balancing firm standards with partner preferences• using gamification to drive engagement and learning• measuring ROI alongside ROE to capture experience• handling unstructured client data with flexible workflows• how AI reshapes junior work and reduces stress• why lawyers are more open to change than assumed
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Olivia Dhein: Lawyers, AI, And The New Non‑Negotiable
Mar 300:51:49Tap to summarizeWe chart how AI moved from “innovation” to a non‑negotiable capability for practising lawyers, and why choosing the right use case matters more than hype. Olivia Dhein shares how Big Law deploys enterprise‑grade AI, trains teams, and balances risk with results.• defining AI as business continuity not innovation • mapping tasks to model strengths across drafting, review, translation, research • larger context windows raising draft quality and speed • hallucinations trending below human error on bounded tasks • human‑in‑the‑loop risks and measurement bias • confidentiality solved via enterprise tools, not consumer chatbots • client demands for responsible use and AI‑checked advice • training juniors for verification, prompting and judgment • future signals: reasoning research, MoE, multimodality
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Owen King: How a Family Law Firm Turned AI into a Digital Team Member
Feb 500:36:06Tap to summarizeWhat does real progress look like when a law firm embraces AI without losing its human centre?We sit down with Owen King, Group Operations Director at April King Legal, to trace a family firm’s journey from dining-room floppy disks to a national private client practice that runs on clarity, empathy and smart systems.Owen shares how the team navigated post-COVID expectations, made video-first appointments feel personal, and built specialist capacity in tax and probate while keeping advice simple and outcomes transparent.We also dig into the bigger questions shaping legal tech: why specialism beats hype, what data security really means for client trust, and how pricing models and onboarding can make or break adoption. Owen explains where AI could go next in private client work, especially where complex calculations and document-heavy workflows can benefit from targeted automation with human oversight.
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Robert Hogarth: Will AI Force Lawyers to Raise Their Game?
Jan 2900:31:45Tap to summarizeJoin Philip Young, CEO and Co-Founder of Garfield AI, as he speaks with Robert Hogarth, former senior partner at RPC and now founder of Settle Index. Robert explains how Settle Index evolved from a lawyer-driven modelling tool into a system that can read pleadings, build decision-tree models, and generate settlement values with minimal human input.Philip and Robert discuss why traditional financial modelling rarely happens in practice, how AI is enabling more rational settlement decisions, and what happens when the software is tested against real-world, previously settled cases.They also explore recent AI policy changes, whether LLM-generated legal analysis can rival that of senior counsel, and how this technology may push lawyers to raise their game.
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Alex Monaco: Grapple and the Future of Consumer Legal Tech
Jan 2200:29:57Tap to summarizePhilip Young sits down with solicitor and law-tech entrepreneur Alex Monaco to explore how AI is reshaping access to justice for ordinary people. Alex traces his journey from criminal defence to founding Monaco Solicitors and explains how COVID-era chaos revealed a huge unmet need for fast, affordable legal help.Philip and Alex discuss their shared belief that lawyers do not “own” the law and why AI is beginning to dismantle long-standing barriers to representation. Alex reflects on using Garfield to recover long-stalled debts, the importance of approachability in legal design, and why tools that are friendly, fast, and inexpensive increasingly outperform traditional firms.
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Greg Clark: From Middlesbrough To Minister - Policy Lessons For The AI Age
Jan 1700:38:43Tap to summarizeCuriosity changes lives—but only when the system makes room for it. Philip Young sits down with former Cabinet Minister Greg Clark to explore how the UK can turn raw talent and world-class research into durable AI leadership without smothering innovation or abandoning hard-won rights. The journey moves from school classrooms to Cabinet rooms, from ZX81s and BBC Micros to LLMs, and from London’s legal corridors to creative and industrial clusters across the regions.We unpack a pragmatic model for progress. Start with education that stretches young minds and builds confidence to explore uncommon interests. Back discovery research with patient capital and let applied partnerships turn breakthroughs into real products. Keep regulation close to where harms occur—privacy, IP, competition—by empowering sector regulators who already hold deep expertise. The aim isn’t red tape for its own sake; it’s guardrails that protect people, boost trust, and make adoption easier. That means taking bias seriously in hiring systems, clarifying training data rights, and ensuring competitive markets so power doesn’t pool in a few hands.Beyond policy mechanics, we put a spotlight on place. AI advantage grows in mixed ecosystems: gaming tools powering automotive design, motorsport data informing manufacturing, and advanced materials shaping aerospace. Sheffield, the West Midlands, and Leamington Spa show how porous boundaries spark new value. The biggest barrier isn’t technology; it’s silos—between disciplines, departments, and sectors. Break them with intentional convening, joint programmes, and procurement that rewards collaboration, and the UK’s proposition becomes distinctive: innovate quickly, deploy safely, and spread opportunity beyond the capital.If you care about building with brains and guardrails—where education, research, industry, and fair rules reinforce each other—this conversation is for you. Listen, share with a colleague who shapes policy or product, and leave a review with one change you’d make to accelerate responsible UK AI.
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Daniel Long: The Reality Behind Building an AI-Powered Law Firm
Jan 800:37:01Tap to summarizeIn this founder-to-founder conversation, Philip Young (CEO) and Daniel Long (CTO) unpack their legal product Garfield AI. Built around precision and empathy, the result is a guided path through small debt claims that feels friendly on the surface and is rigorous under the hood.We begin with Daniel’s background in physics and his journey to legal tech, exploring how energy, scale, and reliability shaped our architecture. We then consider the broader implications of faster legal processes, including the changing economics of justice and the potential for AI-enabled triage and drafting to increase access to legal services.
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Introducing Garfield AI
Dec 900:24:10Tap to summarizeHow is AI helping businesses get unpaid invoices paid?Join Philip Young, CEO and Co-Founder of Garfield AI, as he explains how AI is transforming debt recovery for small businesses and sole traders across England & Wales. Philip shares early success stories from the platform, from finance teams recovering years-old debt to a sole trader getting £7,000 back after spending just four minutes on Garfield!He also discusses how lawyers have reacted to Garfield, why pay-as-you-go pricing actually improves access to justice, and what these early outcomes on Garfield really suggest about the future direction of the company and legal technology generally.
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