Dirk (4:02)

Yeah, this is Dirk.

Remy Warren (4:03)

Dirk, how's it going, man?

Dirk (4:05)

Really good.

Remy Warren (4:07)

Hey, what's your hunting question?

Dirk (4:09)

Yeah, my hunting question revolves around mild year. So this past summer, fall specifically, I'm in Utah and I was hunting in Utah and Idaho. So hot, so dry, especially into the rifle season Hunts went out, had fantastic warm, clear, great weather to hunt in. Made it easy to, you know, get out early and stay out late, but just super tough turning up any Bucks or any bucks of, you know, any size during the daylight hours. Jumped a few hiking out in the dark. They were in beds. Almost hit a couple with the ranger, driving back on roads to camp after dark, that kind of thing. So I guess my question would be then, in these kinds of circumstances, like we had this last fall, what kinds of other tactics do you use other than just, you know, hoping to get lucky and trying to stay out to try and find bucks or mature bucks?

Remy Warren (5:03)

Yeah, that's a good question. And, you know, I think part of the reason that a lot of those seasons are that time of year, right, Is because they know that success is going to be low because of meal deer habits in that time of year. And they're just in those pockets and not moving a lot. And then you get that warm weather and it just multiplies. It makes it very difficult. And then the years where there is higher success, it's like a year where there's an early snow or a big snow and the deer are out and moving around again, and it makes it for good hunting. You know, I do also do quite a bit of still hunting in some of those areas. Areas where it's like, all right, I've seen deer, like you said, you're, hey, you bumped some out of this one pocket. Well, you know that they're there, right? It's just you got to find them during hunting hours. And so how do you do that? One of the things that I do a lot is those. Those preferred bedding areas, those travel areas, areas where I've seen deer in the past, I just still hunt through there. I move really slow. I glass. I've talked about this before, but I like. I use my optics in that real tight country. This last year I had a late muzzle loader tag. I call it a late muzzle loader tag. I thought it was pretty early, but late Utah muzzleloader tag, and it was hot and there wasn't much action. But like, one of the best bucks I saw on that hunt, I was just moving through an area where I'd seen them kind of similar deal where I knew there was deer in this particular pocket and just moving through there. And all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's some does. And then I ended up spotting a buck less than 50 yards away by just glassing less than 50 yards, still using my glass and picking up just a piece of the deer. It's slow hunting. And there is kind of that almost like luck factor in it, where you're like, well, there's so much country. But anytime you can get like, like you said, hey, I've seen deer crossing the road here at night, they're moving at night. Or I was walking out and blew out a deer. Well, it lets you know that deer is probably there all day. Right. So kind of finding either similar places like that or finding places, you know, like there. There's a lot of sign and other things. And then still hunting. That glassing, that glassing, like early morning and evening, really hitting like the edges of that kind of country, that brushier country, right on the edges of that bigger, thicker cover. Really trying to pick it apart with the optics. And then the other thing that I like to do too is glass into those potential bedding areas where I get across from it. Like I'll be on a one ridge and then really glassing really fairly tight into some pockets where I can potentially see. I'll do that a lot. Where I'll get. I like to use my 18 power binoculars, like Razor 18s and just set up and just glass into the brush. And a lot of times I'll see an antler tip or something. Like I try to identify bedding areas and then really glass into bedding areas and then still hunt bedding areas. And I focus on bedding areas a lot. I think a lot of mule deer hunters might not necessarily target those areas, but they're in there and you can find them. You know, it's probably your best chance certain times a year.

Dirk (8:09)

Yeah.

Remy Warren (8:10)

Yeah, I hope that helps. Like it's. It's the hardest time to hunt and, you know, you just kind of got to pull out all the tactics. And I do a combination of still hunting, glassing, better betting areas and really focusing on where I think they might be and where I think they might be betting. Yeah, no, that's.

Dirk (8:23)

That's super helpful.

Remy Warren (8:24)

Hope that answers your question. Yeah. And. And best of luck.

Dirk (8:28)

Do you ever. Do you ever. I guess a follow up would just be. Do you. Have you ever had an instance where you've. You've done that and you've gone to still hunting and then, you know, you got on something or blown it out and then you kind of regretted, like, oh, if I'd only waited or, you know, played it differently.

Remy Warren (8:42)

You know, I kind of just make my decisions and ride it. You know, there are times where you go, oh man, there was a buck in there. I knew there was probably a buck in there, and if I would have sat here and waited, I might have seen him pop out. But a lot of the time during that time of year, like, you might not see them pop out. Now, I definitely play it pretty cautious, and I, to be honest, like, I've got pretty good at it over the years. Like, I don't really blow that much stuff out. I'm, I'm pretty tactical about it. Like, I, I, I glass first, and then I move slow. I make sure the wind's right. There are those times where you aren't going to get a shot or something happens. It sucks.

Dirk (9:20)

Yeah. So you're not, you're not just going for a nature walk. You're thinking about what you're doing?

Remy Warren (9:25)

Yeah, absolutely. Like, I'm st. I'm, I'm going through it like I'm stalking a deer in there. Like, there's a buck in here and I've just got to find him. And I take my time, and I'm pretty cautious about it. And if I think things get, you know, the wind starts to move or whatever, I reassess. But I also kind of think about it where I'm glassing first, then I'm glassing again. I'm just, like, hitting it from all the angles. So I'm like, this is an area where I think a buck is going to be. This canyon could be a very large canyon. Could be a small pocket. Could be an area where it's like, man, every time I've been around here or years in the past, I've seen deer in this pocket. I know this is a producer. If you have more knowledge, that helps. Like, if you know there's been a buck in this, like, year after year, this pocket holds dear, then I might change that tactic and say, oh, I'm going to wait for it to make a mistake. But then there's other times where it's like, I'm running out of time. I've got X amount of days and I haven't seen anything in three or four days. I'm going to get aggressive, you know, Like, I kind of play it like that, but I kind of start with, like, that broad view in glass, and then I find different angles in glass, all the different angles. And then I slowly move through and continue to glass in the still hunt. So I'm kind of hitting it three times of, like, glassing it and then glassing it from multiple angles and then moving through and glassing. And then I can feel confident, like, okay, well, there's nothing there. And then I go do that to another spot.

Dirk (10:42)

Yeah.

Remy Warren (10:44)

So, yeah, fantastic.

Dirk (10:45)

I appreciate that.

Remy Warren (10:46)

Yeah. Appreciate the call and best of luck to you.

Dirk (10:50)

Yeah. Thank you. Hey, and I'll just plug your Live Wild spices too. I've tried those and gone through multiple packages and I think they're fantastic. I highly recommend them to anybody out there, so.

Remy Warren (11:00)

Oh, thanks, man. I really appreciate that. You know, it's one of those things, like, took a lot of time to get set up and I, it's awesome to hear that. People, people appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Dirk (11:10)

Yeah, yep.

Remy Warren (11:11)

Best of luck to you. Catch you later. All right, we're going to move on to our next caller here. Hey, welcome to Live Wild podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (11:22)

Hey, this is Ryan from North Dakota.

Remy Warren (11:24)

Ryan, how's it going, man?

Dirk (11:26)

Good, how are you?

Remy Warren (11:27)

Yeah, good. What's your, what's your question?

Dirk (11:30)

My question is on water filtration.

Remy Warren (11:33)

Yeah, go for it.

Dirk (11:35)

Okay, so I'm new to it, but when filtering water in the back country, what sorts of water is safe to pull from, such as flowing water, still water. What's safe with like a pump or a steri pan?

Remy Warren (11:49)

Yep, that's a great question. You know, so I mean, if you can find flowing water, Flowing water is always, you know, I feel like better, you know, stagnant water can collect things that, you know, moving water might not hold. Not in saying that, you know, it just depends. Like, more still water has potential for more harmful things, oftentimes a little bit dirtier. You know, it depends where you're at too. Right. And depends what you have to. To filter it. So if you've got a pump, I mean, pumps great for dirtier, more sediment filled water. Now, to be honest, like with a, with a pump filter, I've taken water out of everything for the most part. And if it's going to work, it's going to work whether it's moving water, still water, like you always try to find that better water. Some water tastes really bad and some of that really bad tasting water tastes bad because there's things that maybe you can't filter. Certain, not necessarily chemicals, but things like arsenic and other stuff in it, which I don't think those filters really take out, but they do for the most part. Those water filters, the pump kind are great if you're in areas where there's more stagnant water. I mean, I've taken water out of really disgusting things with those and felt okay drinking it. Sometimes I'll double filter it or what have you. And you're just really careful about, you know, not getting that like the bad water in your threads. Not getting the bad water in certain places, like, you know, Being very careful with that. When I'm in the mountains, I always try to look for more moving water. If I've got like a steripen, you moving water is great. Creeks anywhere where it's coming out of the ground is. I mean, it's essentially coming. Coming out for the most part, filtered. When you're in the mountains, you'll notice that, like, a lot of streams will start and stop as you're moving up the mountain. There'll be pieces that are like, it's flowing over here and then popping out of the hill over here. I look for that kind of stuff only because it's. It's often better water. Sometimes in places like Alaska and stuff where I find that water coming out of the mountain, sometimes I don't even filter it. Not saying everybody does that. That's just the way that I do it. You can definitely still get sick or what have you. But I think that, like with the steripen, I like that clean moving water for the most part. And then that, you know, that actually sterilizes the water. So if you're really worried about it in the area with bad water, you could do both pump, filter and steripen or what have you or chemical added, like iodine tablets or something like that. But for the most part, if you can find moving water, I think that that's the best.

Dirk (14:16)

Okay. Awesome. Yeah, I was kind of planning on, in areas where I questioned it, to use both pump and steripen. I just actually dropped my theory pen in the garage and broke it. So I guess that's out of the question for now till I get a new one.

Remy Warren (14:32)

Yeah, going with a pump's great. You know the other thing too, like, I've heard this, you know, I think maybe water selection pay plays more if it's like, let's say it's a survival situation or something, or you don't have a filter and you just have to drink water. You know, I, as a person that's had giardia, like, it's horrible. You don't want to get it. But, you know, like, I. I've heard in the past, like, oh, you know, like the water above, like moving water that's not stagnant, but it's like moving but ahead of the turbulence because it's like you can skim the water off the top, whereas most of the bad stuff settles to the bottom. I've heard that, you know, and I've kind of ascribed to that over the years in places where I don't filter my water. But I think if you're filtering your water, like you can pretty much, you know, use a little bit of common sense. Like if there's a place where there's better looking water, get that water. Like I always do that. It's just a natural thing. Like I've Dr. Drank some really disgusting water that's been filtered and it's like hard to choke down. And you always wonder in the back of your head like, should I have drank that? Which is not always a fun feeling. So if you can find good, clean looking water, go for it. But it's not always the case, so. And in areas where there's a lot of sediment in the water, I definitely suggest like a pump filter or some kind of like fil. Like physical filter. Good.

Dirk (15:48)

Awesome. That's great. That answers my question. Good to talk to you again. I met you in Big sky at TAC this year, so that was cool.

Remy Warren (15:56)

Oh, awesome. Yeah, very cool. Well, thanks for calling in, man, and best of luck next season.

Dirk (16:01)

Thank you. You too.

Remy Warren (16:02)

Bye. All right, we'll jump to another caller here. Welcome to Live Wild Podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (16:10)

This is Britton Parker.

Remy Warren (16:11)

I'm from Middleton, Idaho.

Dirk (16:13)

I just had a question on stalking mule deer. Was hunting them in the rut this last year with a bow and you'd think that's more of an advantage in the rut. And I long time listener, first time caller of your podcast. But I guess two part question one, what is your biggest tactics for when there's a lot of does around a buck? They don't keep kind of tending.

Remy Warren (16:34)

And then also when you're doing that.

Dirk (16:36)

In the snow, because the snow came and then it got really crunchy.

Remy Warren (16:39)

Yeah, the snow. That's the hardest part about late season archery is when that snow gets crunchy, it gets very difficult. You have to move slow and really like plan your stocks and or, you know, set up more ambush tactics. I think I talked to someone last call in about kind of more ambush strategies when that snow's super loud because for mule deer it makes it very difficult. Like that's their biggest defense and they use that, you know, crunch, crunch, crunch. I think it was a couple weeks back I talked about kind of, you don't know what you don't know and a little bit of the tactics of t walking in the snow. And sometimes it's just like, you know, move like not. You just gotta go slow. You gotta kind of swipe your foot into the snow and try not to make that human crunch, crunch, crunch sound. Anytime you can crawl or whatever, you know, and just move slow. It. It helps. There's a couple of strategies when bucks are surrounded by does. One of them I just consider, like, shadowing the group. So you kind of get in as close as possible, and as things move, you continue to get closer and closer, Especially when there's a lot of does around and you've got one buck that's checking does, so he's got does, you've moved in, and you just continually move with the group and let the buck mess up. So you just sit there, and it's a lot of patience, a lot of waiting, and you just continually, like, crawling and moving, crawling and moving, hoping that he gets to where you're at. Now, if something changes, like he locks down, he beds down, then you can reassess. But for the most part, I try to just stock into the group, get as close as possible, and then just continue as things move, shadowing that. Now, the hard part is sometimes you're sitting there and one of the does moves your way and blows the whole deal out. Other times, though, you know, you can be fairly aggressive certain times, depending on the herd and what's going on. When a buck is like rutting deer, a lot of deer will actually be running around. And so if, let's say you've got a buck, he's pushing a doe, and there's some other does on one hillside, and you can, like, strategically try to bump those deer out of the way. Oftentimes, like, the bucks are in that, you get a little bit more time with them. So, like, you could spook some other does, and that buck might not run off. But if you spook the does, they're taking the buck with him. So you kind of can be strategic about that. And there's been hunts where I've, like, had a buck in a group, a big group of does, and he's moving. I just kind of continually is, like, all day kind of shadowing him. Now, I'm probably 120 yards away, way out of bow range, but far enough away where I'm not going to blow it close enough where something happens like can move. And then the buck took, like, five does over the next ridge, and I just went up and kind of got in between the other does, blew them out the other direction, and then moved in and set up again. And now I'm strategically closer on that buck and his fewer does, and he ended up betting. Then I crawled down, waited for him to get up because there were some does. You know, I knew there was does above and like clockwork, he got up, went to go check the does that he'd left, and I was able to get a shot. So, you know, just kind of playing that cat and mouse game where you're moving in, you're keeping things good for the wind and everything else. And then when you have to be, I guess, like, bold, there's sometimes where you just have to get rid of some does, like, strategically get them out of there. Like, it's kind of a weird thing of like, I'm going to spook some deer. You don't want to spook the deer that are with the buck that you're going after. But sometimes you got to be bold and just take that risk of, like, okay, moving in and hoping that he gives you a second or whatever. But just shadowing them and waiting for that right opportunity is a pretty good tactic.

Dirk (20:11)

Awesome. Sorry. If I get back to that, add one more bonus question on the same topic is when you've gotten in and the. The does that are with the buck.

Remy Warren (20:20)

If a doe spots you but the buck hasn't. Your.

Dirk (20:23)

Your advice there? Because that would happen a lot. I give it, like, 70 yards. I'm getting in close to the buck, and I just also knows one of the does has me kind of pegged.

Remy Warren (20:33)

Like, what do I do there to not.

Dirk (20:35)

She knows I'm up there, but the buck isn't aware yet.

Remy Warren (20:38)

Yeah, I just lay down and just lay down and let it cool down. Because she'll be staring for a while, and then sooner or later, like, that buck's gonna then distract her again. So he'll be checking other does, and then he's just doing his thing. There's a lot of movement and motion and things going on, and you can actually get away with a little bit more. So oftentimes, like, I've done that so many times late season, where I'm moving in, oh, there's a doe I didn't see, and she's just pegged. She stomps. A couple times. I just lay down and just wait. Like, be super patient. Let it wear off. Don't. Don't get too crazy and try to peek your head up too soon. Just get comfortable, lay down and give it some time. And oftentimes she'll go back to something. She'll continually. Maybe keep checking that. But something often happens where she gets distracted again, and then you can make your move if the buck's within range. Sometimes when a. When a doe bus you, you might even have time to, like, get drawn and get a shot. Um, the hard part is if that dough blows out and, you know, might make the buck react and, you know, jump the string or what have you. But a lot of times those bucks are. It depends on the temperament of the deer where you're at too. Like, you'll notice, like, sometimes they just get crazy brained and they're like, they're running pretty hard and you can get away with a little bit more, or they might, you know, see a doe bounce off, but they're focused completely on something else, which, you know, you kind of gotta. Like, that just depends on the situation in the day sometimes and, like, just observing that buck and how he's acting.

Dirk (22:04)

Awesome. You're the man. I appreciate everything you do. Thank you.

Remy Warren (22:08)

Yeah, thanks so much. Thanks for the call. All right, we'll jump to our next caller here. Hey, welcome to LiveWild podcast. Who am I talking with? Hey, Remy.

Dirk (22:17)

Ernesto. How you doing?

Remy Warren (22:19)

Pretty good. How are you?

Dirk (22:21)

Not bad. I got a question. When it comes to using whether it's sunglasses or just glass and in general and species actually be that reflection from distance, and if so, you know, at times I haven't worn sunglasses for certain reasons because I feel like they're looking back. And same thing with spotting scopes or vinyls. Can they be looking back at you?

Remy Warren (22:48)

Yeah, for sure. I mean, the reflection on those kind of things can go miles. This last year, I was elk hunting with some buddies, and we didn't know where they were at. We were just, like, sitting, glassing. We knew that there's some elk on this mountain. We're like, watching these elk long ways away. We. I'd already tagged out. We were just kind of like, you know, I was just, like, keeping out the antlers and getting everything prepped and everything. And I'm like, I wonder where those guys are at. I thought they were going up somewhere up there on the mountain. This is my. I don't even know how far away. Five, six, seven miles. And I'm, like, looking with my binos and, you know, just the elk. And then I look away, and all of a sudden something catches my eye. And it was like someone was signaling us with a signal. Like, it was from five miles away. I could see it with my. Not in the binos, just naked eye, like, what the hell? And it was actually the reflection off of his. He had one of those big Garmin watches, and it was the sun hitting off of that, and it was just like a. It was like a signal, you know, it's like signaling an airplane. Sunglasses can do the same thing. Optics. Like, I try to keep them shielded and shaded on a spotter. Like, I'll pull that sun shade off with my binos. Like, when I'm getting into position or whatever. It Far down distances. I don't really think it affects the animals, but when you're moving in, that's something you absolutely have to think about. The biggest one that I seen a watch guys stock in, and they'll pull out their rangefinder, and it's like the flash of that rangefinder, the deer will be facing the opposite direction. They're going to range, and the sun's, you know, generally in your face when you're stalking, you know, something like that or whatever off to the side. And that. That flash can just send them running. So every time I pull out my rangefinder, I'm very careful and cautious about shielding it. Um, I don't wear sunglasses generally when I'm hunting. Like, if I'm traveling between spots, I'll put them on if I need them. But I like to be able to throw my glasses up quick and, you know, depending on the situation, that kind of. That glare again comes into play. So, yeah, definitely be cognizant of the reflection off of things. As somebody that films a lot of stuff, cameras are the worst. And oftentimes it's the back screen of the camera, not necessarily the lens, because you're thinking about, oh, yeah, I'm shading the lens, and it's the screen or whatever in the back that catches that and sends. Sends a signal out there. So as you're moving in, especially, you know, being careful of that reflection is huge. And then on any stocks or anything like that, one of the things guys will throw their sunglasses on their hat and do a stock, it's like, it completely defeats the purpose of that. It's on your head, it's moving. It's the highest point, and you've got your sunglasses on your head. And guys like, I don't know why that. How that buck saw me. It's like, well, dude, you just threw, like, light show over the top of its back. It doesn't even have to be looking at you to see it on the tree and all this other stuff. So anytime I do a stock or whatever, I generally put sunglasses away in a pocket, whatever. You know, I think about that a lot.

Dirk (25:38)

All right, Appreciate it. That's something, you know, I keep thinking about and, you know, at times take them up and don't worry about them. And, you know, I always wonder when I feel like I'm Looking through something, they're looking back. But that's what I wonder. But appreciate it.

Remy Warren (25:51)

Yeah, yeah. You know, and a lot of times sometimes though, like you'll see a deer that's just like there is that other thing where you're a good distance away and someone's like, he's looking at us. And it's just that deer is just looking, you know. But yeah, if lens, if anything's hitting that lens, you can see that from miles away. And it could be something that, you know, maybe they key into, maybe they don't. But I'm definitely very cautious about keeping light off the lens of anything that I've got for sure. So hope that answers your question.

Dirk (26:19)

It does. Appreciate it.

Remy Warren (26:21)

Yeah. You have a good luck and good hunting. You too. All right, we'll jump into another caller here. Hey, welcome to Live Wild Podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (26:31)

Hey, Remy, Brian from Reno, Nevada.

Remy Warren (26:33)

Brian, how's it going, man?

Dirk (26:34)

Pretty good. So I got a turnback tag for a late cow hunt in a hunt in a unit that I've never been in. And the moon phases are on the weekend that I'm able to go. It's a full moon, there's supposed to be some storms rolling through. What recommendations would you have for elk moving around in that type of environment and with the moon phases?

Remy Warren (27:02)

Yeah, I mean the best thing late season elk is like, they like to get warm. If you. The best thing you can absolutely have for late season elk hunting, especially at cow elk hunting, is cold weather and snow because it makes them easier to spot. But also like they're going to get out and sun themselves. And so you. There's a lot of midday glassing, you know, for something like that. Like if you have visibility and it's cold, you're going to find them on those kind of ridge tops on those south facing slopes and that's where they're going to be.

Dirk (27:34)

Right.

Remy Warren (27:34)

You can, you can really pinpoint where an elk is going to be late season. Like they limit themselves to a few places that they really like and it makes it pretty easy for the most part, you know, relatively speaking. You know, focus on those south faces that focus on anything where there's anything burned off. Cows congregate there. You know, they're in their, their winter zones. And don't be afraid to look in the Val Valleys, man. I mean, like in the flats, in those low lying areas, in those rolling hills, stuff like that. You're also probably going to find them like the opposite. They're going to be either high or low. Oftentimes they'll be like up high because it gets wind blown. There's good grass and stuff and they're generally safe and left alone. They can, you know, come out of right out of the woodwork and, and sun themselves. But those bald ridges, burns, anything like that can be super beneficial to cows late season. And then even just like those, those little low lying sage stuff off of the valley floors, they'll be out there. They'll be feeding anywhere where there's a burn or something like that can definitely help as well. Yeah, you know, Cool.

Dirk (28:35)

Yeah, there's quite a few burns in this unit.

Remy Warren (28:37)

Yeah. Find that grass.

Dirk (28:38)

Quite a few burns that are. Yes.

Remy Warren (28:40)

Yeah, yeah. Any of that. Like yellow. The yellow grass. Find the yellow grass, you'll find the cow, elk. I mean, that's just where they're gonna be, especially late season. So, man, best of luck to you. It should be a, should be a sweet hunt and hopefully, you know, like. Yeah, when it's real cold, it sucks hunting, but it's great for cows.

Dirk (29:00)

Yeah, absolutely. I'm hoping to get some blood on my new Live Wild game bags.

Remy Warren (29:05)

Perfect, man. Well, let me know how they treat you and keep me posted on how the hunt goes. All right, we'll catch you later.

Dirk (29:11)

We'll do. Absolutely. All right, thanks. For me.

Remy Warren (29:13)

Thanks. All right, we're gonna jump to another caller here. Hey, welcome to Live Wild podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (29:22)

Hi, Remy, this is Michael out of Ohio.

Remy Warren (29:24)

Michael, how's it going, man?

Dirk (29:25)

Hey, pretty good, man. I think I'm a second or third time caller. Thanks for taking my call. My question is, I've got an outfitted hunt this year in Idaho. I was lucky enough to get the tag before or during all the craziness. But just to help the outfitter out, my question is optics related? So I have some diamondback 10 by 42 binos that I absolutely love. I have the tripod adapter for them. And my first elk hunt I went on back in 2022, tried to be glassing heavy, but I was not in an area of Idaho that was glassing compatible, I guess would be the best word. But coming around Christmas time, I'm looking to maybe upgrade my glassing kit. The I was looking at both the lightweight options for a spotter for like 11 to 33. Also looking at some of the heavier options. Where I'm going, we're gonna have horses. So what if you were to add like one or two pieces? I was looking to maybe get another set of binos too. Like a 15 or 18 power. If you like had a choice about like one or two extra pieces of glass to bring, what would you bring on something? I'm now going to. It's wilderness area, a lot more open, I think. And I'm going with the September rifle tag, so I think it'll be a lot of fun.

Remy Warren (30:47)

Yep.

Dirk (30:48)

If you had to pick better glass, what would you on a hunt with horses? Like, would you go like as heavy as you could or what would your options be?

Remy Warren (30:58)

Nah, you know, that's a good question. I think I'd probably just go with, you know, I think the versatility of like that middle kind of range. So like a 16 to 48 by 65, something like that. I think I go with that 65 objective just because out of like, you know, everything, it's, it's easier to carry. You still probably going to be hiking around a lot. Those mountains where you're going are steep. I'm pretty sure I know where you're going. It's steep and like you're going to be on a horse maybe for some, but you're going to be hiking too. And I would say, like, if it's me, I think like you're on your chest binas are extremely important and that's like, like number one. So if you've already got that and you like the ones that you've got, then I think the next piece to get would be a spotting scope. If I was just going with one spotting scope, I think I would just go with like the mid objective lens because it's got good variability in a little extra zoom. It's kind of in between on weight, you know, and it's, it's like pretty good for a broad range of things. If you were like, like, hey, hey, I'm backpacking in, I would say go with the lighter spotting scope. If you're like, I only backpack like, you know that. I think that that's nice to have that. But that midweight range is good. And then like the third piece of kit that I would get would be, you know, maybe a higher power binocular. Because if you're just sitting glassing all day, it's nice to be doing that with two eyes. But another thought would be instead of that, just make your chest binos your like 12 by 50s. I mean, you know, like in my store that's the, that's our number one seller is the 12 by 50s. And I think it's because it kind of meets that demand of like, it's a, it's a the utility of it is you can use it on your, as your everyday binocular. But then when you sit down and put it on a tripod, you have a lot of extra, that just extra two power helps especially when it's stabilized. And so you know, I think that that works. But also you know, the other option is like having a pair of 15s and that would be like, that's the final thing. Like I, I think that the most important is your primary optic and a spotting scope. So the next thing for you that I would get would be that mid range spotting scope. I think that like perfect 65 mil objective somewhere in there. Something of that like size because it's like generally it's like the small ones are 50, the mid is like 65 and the big ones are like 85 or 80, something like that. So I think yeah, and those are.

Dirk (33:28)

Like 60 ounces what I've seen.

Remy Warren (33:30)

Yep. Yeah. And like, I mean I've carried that, I've carried those the big spot around a lot. It's, I mean it's just like a lot of stuff. It's a lot of weight. It's just like, you know, I mean I've done it, you know, a lot and I've got a lot of other camera stuff and, and like I have pretty much, you know, I've got one in each class, size class. So if I'm hiking around a lot, I'm taking that mid one and it just gets, it gets used a lot because it's got enough, enough juice but it's lighter, it's just the most like versatile I would say, I guess bonus.

Dirk (34:05)

Question because everybody's doing a bonus question today. Sorry for the people, they're still on the line. The. In a group setting like with like a couple guys or with an outfitter, would it make sense that everybody has a bunch of duplicate things or would be like hey, like I've got a 10 power or a 15 power bino, you've got a 65 mil objective spotter and everybody else has like their own personal dinos. Like how many I guess did you never have enough glass and tripods on top of bridge? Find out. But yeah, you know, Happy medium collect your clients.

Remy Warren (34:39)

Yeah, generally like went on a guided hunt like the. We always carry the spotters. Like we all have spotters and it's probably better for guys to have like the binos, you know, because you see something, you'd be like hey, I see some way over here. But for the most part, you know, we're Doing a lot of, like, the zooming in and all that stuff, like, using the spotter. So, like, on that, like, even it's like me and my brother, let's say me and my brother are going hunting. Sometimes it'll be like one of us will carry a spotter, but we'll both have our binos or something like that, you know, kind of like split the. On a backpack type hunt. Yeah. So I think, like, the. I think like, bino binocular spotting is. It's just. It's just easier to glass all day. So if you have a higher power binocular and someone house has a spotter, like, I would make sure I wouldn't go without a spotter. Like, I'd make sure that when I'm in there, somebody has a spotter because it could save 8 to 10 miles biking through dead fall. And, like, I think that's a ball over there. Let's go look. It's nice to be a verifier or what have you. Or sometimes, like, depending on, you know, especially meal. If it's meal. Deer hunting. It's like, dude, that spotter is absolutely imperative most of the time because you're. You're. You're looking is like, okay, that. Is that even a deer. When you're like, set back and you're glassing across these giant, vast areas, might take you all day to get over there, you know, but you can hunt that entire valley from one location if you're able to see it well enough. Definitely.

Dirk (36:09)

Awesome.

Remy Warren (36:10)

All right, thanks so much. Yep. Hey, before you get off. Oh, before you go, I'm gonna have you do me a favor. Pick a number between 1 and 35.

Dirk (36:22)

Let's go. Right in the middle. Let's go. 17.

Remy Warren (36:25)

17. All right, we're gonna go to caller number seven. Oh, pick another number. 17 dropped.

Dirk (36:33)

Okay, let's go seven.

Remy Warren (36:37)

All right. Lucky number seven. Perfect. All right, well, thank you so much, and best of luck to you.

Dirk (36:44)

All right, thank you, sir. Have a good one.

Remy Warren (36:46)

You too. Hey, welcome to Live Wild podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (36:51)

Hi, my name is Roberto. I'm calling from Colorado.

Remy Warren (36:54)

Roberto, how's it going, man?

Dirk (36:55)

Pretty good, man. I just had a question on glassing techniques, and I hunt here in Colorado, Western Colorado. So just, I mean, how do you take apart outside of the mountain with your finos or your butter?

Remy Warren (37:11)

Yeah, I'm, you know, I mean, it just depends. So the first thing I do, I sit down and I kind of of look for the places that animals are most likely to be. For the time that I'm looking so early in the morning, I'm looking for probably where they were feeding. So if it's elk, you know, it's species specific, but deer as well. Like first thing in the morning, I'm looking for areas where they might potentially be feeding elk and deer. Elk will be in that more open grass kind of country. Deer will be in more of that like sagey browsy kind of crunch country, you know. And then I kind of glass obviously the tops of the ridges and the areas that they most likely to travel. And then as the day progresses, I kind of shift over to looking into bedding areas and places where there's shade, places where they might potentially bed and, and then I'll, you know, even from that point, maybe even just lock off and grid, which would be going left, right, top, bottom, up, down, kind of picking apart the mountain that way and, and then just going, you know, kind of gridding the entire mountain, like covering everything that way. But first, I always like, like look for the places that are most likely to hold animals based on what I'm hunting and where they are for that time of day, if that makes sense. Right.

Dirk (38:22)

So first thing, first light in the morning, do you want to try to get above the animals at the top of the mountain?

Remy Warren (38:29)

Yeah. You know what I try to get? Yeah. First light, like I'm getting it a good vantage where I can like look across and do a lot of stuff. So anywhere where I've got a good vantage point is generally where I'm, I'm starting my, my search. You know, if it's elk, I'm going to be trying to find a vantage where I could be looking into feeding areas. And because I know that they're going to be hitting those first evening, first in the morning into the evening. So that's going to be giving me my first place. And I'm going to look for elk, kind of the same for deer where I've got like a good vantage point and I can look over all that stuff. You know, it might be a high point where I can just cover a lot of country from one specific spot.

Dirk (39:07)

Gotcha. And then I guess a bonus question, how. I mean, I usually hunt with my father and we've been hunting for 17 years together, and he finally killed his first elk this fourth season in Colorado. But we have a hard time getting off the roads a lot of places where you can, where there's animals are accessible through roads. So like there's something like you. Is there like a technique on like Getting off the road just. I mean, we usually don't want to just be walking through the mountains. You know, is there a vantage point or somewhere where you like, okay, I'm gonna park my truck here and I'm gonna walk this way.

Remy Warren (39:52)

Yeah. You know, I mean, I always look for those areas where it's a little bit harder to get into or those areas, like, there's places where you can look into, too, where it's like, okay, these are areas where there's fewer roads. There's some units where it's just. There's. There's roads everywhere. Right. It's hard to get away from them. Um, but I always try to look for those places where, hey, maybe it's like, there. There's a road here and here, and there's like, a little bit of a climb to get into this, like, this canyon where it's like it. Yeah. You can't really see it from the road, and you got to do a little uphill climbing or you got to drop down. And the only way, like, the best places are, like, where the road's above and you gotta climb back up to the road to get out. That's. That deters a lot.

Dirk (40:29)

Gotcha.

Remy Warren (40:30)

Like, it might be close to road, but people go, yeah, I don't want to kill an elk down there. Now, you know, you have to be able to get the elk out of there or what have you. But it's kind of one of those. Those little tricks of, like, finding the places that people don't really want to go into, even though there's roads everywhere. And oftentimes that's where the animals are going to be because it's just a little more secure. Like, they just. They aren't getting shot there, so they can hold up and find a little bit more refuge. So I hope that helps. Before you go, you are our first winner of the call in today. So you're going to get an Onyx Elite membership. And. And you know, what I'm going to do is I don't know if you already have an Onyx membership. If not, it'll help you find some of those spots. And then if there's a certain area you want, I will e scout it and I'll drop a few pins on places that I, if I had that tag, would go. Go check out.

Dirk (41:21)

Perfect. Do you want me to just tell you the unit now?

Remy Warren (41:25)

No, no, no. Keep that all. We'll message you. Let me send this. I got your number from this number that you called in. Is that a good One to can you text on?

Dirk (41:33)

Yeah, that's perfect. Perfect.

Remy Warren (41:35)

Well, someone will reach out, get you set up for that Onyx membership, and I'll send you a few, few lucky pins.

Dirk (41:42)

Perfect. Thank you. I appreciate it. Have a good one.

Remy Warren (41:44)

Yeah, best of luck and thanks. Good luck next year. Catch you later. All right, we're gonna go to a few more callers here. Hey, welcome to LiveWild podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (41:58)

This is Joel from Texas.

Remy Warren (42:00)

Joel, how's it going?

Dirk (42:01)

Oh, not too bad. First time caller, first time question.

Remy Warren (42:07)

Yeah, go for it.

Dirk (42:09)

It's funny, it's ironic that you gave away the Onyx membership with the, with the spot scouted, because my question revolves around that. I'm sure you've done a podcast at some point about this. I have a hunt coming up in South Texas in a place that I've never been to. I'm not going to be able to get there to scout other than like walking around the day before the hunt starts. Yeah. And I'm curious, just, you know, quick rundown, what you would be looking for. I mean, it's sort of a universal question for blind E scouting, I guess, like, what, what are the things that you would start to look for on Onx in a place that you've never been before? Just to narrow down the places that you would look once you got there in person?

Remy Warren (42:57)

Yeah. So I mean, it's very specific to a couple of things. So the first is the species that I'm hunting, and I'm always looking for those habitat things that that animal needs or for that type of terrain. So I guess for like, for example, if you were saying, hey, I'm hunting elk, right. Then I'm going to go, okay, well, what do elk like? And then I'm going to start by trying to narrow down the places that have what elk like, if you're like, hey, I'm, this is South Texas and you know, I'm hunting deer, but it's a big area and it's public and what have you. And, you know, I might be thinking, well, what's in least supply? So I kind of try to find like, what's in least supply that the animal that I'm hunting needs? Like, is pretty crucial to their, you know, that habitat. That food, water, shelter. Is it an area where there's a ton of shelter, but they. There's not a lot of food is in an area where there's not a lot of water. And that thing that's in lease supply is going to be the first thing that I hone in on. So I don't know, like, what I mean, you. If you want to say, what are you hunting on this particular hunt?

Dirk (43:58)

So it's a. It's a drawn hunt. It's a sort of coastal wetland, marshy area. Most people are going to be hunting nilgai.

Remy Warren (44:08)

Yep.

Dirk (44:09)

But there's also. There's also allegedly a ton of great whitetail deer out there too, right?

Remy Warren (44:15)

Yeah. You know, in some of those areas, like, the first thing I'd probably be looking at is like, okay, where are all these access points and how am I even getting into this place? And then just kind of getting a lay of the land. Like, what's some good travel corridors and some other good travel routes? You know, I'm not real familiar with Neil guy. I know. Like, I've talked to guys that have been on some of those hunts down there, and they kind of find like, you know, and I don't even know if you could find this. A lot of times you can find it on satellite imagery, but like, even you might even see just massive trails where it's like, it goes through maybe like our like, coastal areas. I know I did this in Australia, northern Australia, for water buffalo. Right. And I was like, okay, where are we gonna find these things? And we just located like fresh water sources. And then, you know, there's a river or whatever. And then on satellite imagery, just zoomed in and you could see trails in some of that coastal country. Like, oh, here's a trail that's like beat through this area. And then highlighting those trails and being like, oh, here's travel corridors. And then just going and checking me like, oh, yep, there's buff tracks here. Cool. We can hun. Like, they're definitely in here somewhere. And it works really well. So it just depends on like the species and what you're doing. But I kind of try to find that, like, what's maybe in. In little supply. Like, okay, around coastal areas, there's water in the ocean, but animals aren't drinking it. So is there some slews, some creeks? Like, sometimes that country might be. There's water everywhere. I don't really. I'm not really sure, but maybe that is something that's not in great supply. Or maybe you go like, hey, a lot of this area is sandy and just terrible browse. But like, here's some other areas that have what these deer might need. Here's real thick pocket adjacent to some other more open areas. Oh, this would probably be a good potential bedding area. Or here's an area with a little bit of topography where they might travel. Or here's, shoot, here's game trails going across these like sandy bottoms, you know, dried up rivers or what have you. Like, you know, just off of the end of those, where you go, oh, this is definitely like, you can actually see like game trails and other things on a lot of that satellite imagery that might help you kind of pinpoint some areas to check out.

Dirk (46:17)

Got it. Thanks.

Remy Warren (46:18)

Yeah, but yeah, I, you know, I mean, in, in a, in a nutshell, just looking for what those animals might need in that habitat. And then, and in some places, you know, I actually drew a Texas tag, but unfortunately this was quite a few years back. And then the, the hunt got shut down because there's a storm. So they shut it down and I'm not being able to go. But I did a lot of scouting and most of my scouting was just like learning the lay of the land. Okay, how am I even going to get in here? And where some potential places, like, my thought was like, getting away from some of those areas where everybody else might go, you know, like, oh, is there an area, a place that might be kind of more difficult to get into? I identified a spot.

Dirk (46:54)

Yeah, that, that is my main thing. I think there's 200 permits and about 5,000 acres worth of like huntable area.

Remy Warren (47:01)

So yeah, it's, yeah, my, my whole thing when I did it, I was like, where's the shittiest place to get into? That's where I'm going to try to go. Y know, because I was like, I'm sure there will be animals everywhere. I just got to find like a place where they aren't getting messed with, you know, Unfortunately, I didn't get to prove that theory. But yeah, best of luck to you and, and keep me posted on how it goes.

Dirk (47:23)

Thanks.

Remy Warren (47:24)

All right. Actually, I'm going to ask a favor of you because we're almost out of time here. I'm going to have you pick one more number. Let's go between 1 and 30. 35. 1 and 35.

Dirk (47:35)

11.

Remy Warren (47:36)

11. Number 11. All right, got it right here. Perfect. Well, thank you so much and best of luck.

Dirk (47:44)

Thank you.

Remy Warren (47:47)

Hey, welcome to the podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (47:50)

Hey, Remy, this is Joey from Utah.

Remy Warren (47:53)

Joey, how's it going, man?

Dirk (47:55)

Good. I appreciate you taking the time. Hey, I got a question about glassing. I'm a big high country early season archery mulear hunter and I got a spotting scope this last year. A new one. It's the Vortex Razor HD 13 or, excuse me, 1339. Yeah, 39 by 56 or something. I love it. It's straight. But the problem I'm running into is, believe it or not, my eyes are getting sunburned. So I'm wondering what you do or if your eyes get sunburned, and if they do, what do you do to prevent that?

Remy Warren (48:43)

Yeah, that's. That's hard, man. It's just like, I don't know the answer. Yeah, I. I've definitely dealt with the eye sunburn before. Sometimes, you know, I think, like, it. It comes to you from, you know, I. I wear a hat constantly when I'm out there. There's a guy talking about sunglasses, and there is definitely a time and a place for sunglasses. When I'm glassing, though, you know, often I think it doesn't. It just depends on where you're. You know, is it. Are you just getting sunburnt in one eye? You're like. It's definitely from the spotter.

Dirk (49:13)

Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's from the spotter. I mean, kudos to Vortex because their glass is so clear. They. It. You know, it takes in every piece of light. But. But, yeah, I mean, no problem with the glass. It's just. That's the problem I ran into a couple times last year, and it kind of hurts and it kind of. Yeah, from. From looking, you know?

Remy Warren (49:35)

Yeah. Especially, you know, like, I think it's a lot of things, though. Like, it's just the sun. It's not even just when you're looking. I think it's like, you know, the wind, the sun, the drying out. I bring some eye drops, like, the. Not the. Don't use the vising kind, but, like, just the more natural tear kind. It helps, like, keeping your eyes not dried out, because I think that what happens is your eyes dry. I don't know, maybe somebody's an eye doctor, and they're like, no, that's. But it seems to make sense to me, like, if I use the eye drops more, and, like, you got to remember to blink, too, because you're staring through that and you're never blinking. You know, your eyes dry out, and I just feel like it just. It. Like they get more irritated sometimes. It might not even be necessarily sunburned, but it's just like your eyes dry out because you're never blinking. I use, like, I'll use some eye drops quite often, and it just helps. Like, it just. It helps a lot. So I think that, like, that little trick of just, like, remembering to blink, and then you Know, switching between your binos and your spot. Like, I don't notice as much when you're through the binos, but when you're squinting, you know, looking through a spotter, it's like one eye is closed, the other eyes forced open, and you definitely get a lot more eye fatigue. So glassing through the binos a lot and then, you know, kind of keeping good, I guess. You know, like, blinking and doing all that stuff that you don't even think about because, like, they do dry out, and then they just. That your scope eye gets, you know, pretty irritated, and it makes it tough to glass. So I think that that. That kind of helps.

Dirk (51:03)

Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it was kind of a curveball question. I get it. Because, you know, from some. I wanted an answer from someone who probably dealt with the same thing at least once before, so.

Remy Warren (51:15)

Yeah.

Dirk (51:15)

Yeah.

Remy Warren (51:15)

And, like, that's one of the things. Like, I just always have, like, some kind of eye drop with me and whatever. And even, you know, I've even noticed, like, all. You know, it's like your eyes, you don't. You almost kind of got to take care of them in a way. Whereas, like, sometimes I'll even, like, take Benadryl and other stuff because it's, like, dry and dusty, and your eyes get just dusty and dry, and then they get irritated, and it's just like you're using.

Dirk (51:37)

Yeah.

Remy Warren (51:37)

You're just working them. Right. And then you get. I. You get eye fatigue, and it's hard to glass all the time. So just kind of thinking about those little things makes a big difference. Yeah.

Dirk (51:48)

I mean, that's great information. Thank you.

Remy Warren (51:50)

Yep. I appreciate the call. I'm gonna have you. Just because we got so many people on the line, I'll have you pick a random number, 1 through 36, and we'll jump on to the next one.

Dirk (51:59)

Okay, let's do 32.

Remy Warren (52:01)

32. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you so much, and best of luck to you.

Dirk (52:06)

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Remy Warren (52:09)

Hey, welcome to Live Wild Podcast. Who am I talking with?

Dirk (52:12)

This is Scott.

Remy Warren (52:13)

Scott, how's it going, man?

Dirk (52:15)

I'm doing good. How are you?

Remy Warren (52:17)

Yeah, pretty good. What's your. What's your question?

Dirk (52:20)

Calling from Arizona. Oh, I am a new hunter. I'm.

Remy Warren (52:27)

I'm older.

Dirk (52:27)

I'm, like, 55, so. But I just. I love every aspect of. Of your show and. And all that you do, and it's inspired me to get out and hunt, and I didn't grow up hunting, so this is something I'm learning as I'M going. I've done a little bit of deer, but not much. I mostly bird hunted, but I really want to get a mule deer and wondering what. What the best a. It's hard to draw out here in Arizona for a decent. So would you advise to just save points to and. And just put in for the good areas until it draw out a good area? Because I. I want a decent first year.

Remy Warren (53:18)

How.

Dirk (53:18)

How would you recommend managing points? Or would you just say put in for everything and get the experience hunting?

Remy Warren (53:27)

You know, honestly, like, I think I would get the experience hunting because you could wait a long time and the. What you're going to learn in that first hunt, you could have learned, you know, years earlier. Right. Like, to have that really good tag is great and there's good potential, but, you know, you kind of need to almost go through the repetitions and see what it's like. Like, how do I even find these things? Because it's still not easy. And honestly, like, I would try to. I would try to get some tags sooner rather than later would be my personal, like, you know, get some experience and be like, hey, cool, okay, I got, I got in. I got. I had a hunt. Maybe you find an area that you can hunt multiple times and you can. I mean, there's some great deer in some general or easier to draw units. It's a little tougher hunting sometimes, but there is potential there. And at least though, you know, you can be like, hey, I could. You could go once or twice and then start saving up your points. You know, I would just, like, I would knock a little bit of the dust off and then. And try it in a unit that's not going to take you forever to draw personally, is what I would do. Because then you're out there, you know, you're getting the feel of it. You're. You're glass and you're going through the. The steps and the motions and just like that first. Because if you're like, this is my first mule deer hunt and I waited five or six or seven more years to draw it, it might be a great tag. But you. You'd be starting from the same place. You're starting on maybe somewhere you could draw this year, you know, if that makes sense. Yeah, I think I would. I would want to help you and then. And then start. Start building up the points, you know, that would be my personal suggestion.

Dirk (55:02)

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I guess I don't want my first experience on at a really good deer to be such a novice that I don't even have a chance at one, so.

Remy Warren (55:13)

Right. Yeah, that's like, it's. It's always. Because there's just stuff that you aren't going to know until you get out there. You can listen to the podcast and do all the stuff, but when you're out there, you're going to be like, oh, geez, there's a lot of country and where am I going to find these dang things? And a lot of those better units. Units, especially in it. Well, in Arizona is really hard to find deer. Like, there's big deer, but they're really hard. Like it. The best units. It's actually probably a harder hunt than some of the areas that aren't, as noted, I would say, because it's just like the type of terrain that they live in. So, you know.

Dirk (55:43)

Right.

Remy Warren (55:44)

If it was me, I would find some, like, decent areas where you can get in more regularly, maybe chase some coos, deer or whatever, some of those October seasons. And then, you know, and. And you can also, you know, apply for like, you know, maybe find some left to. Under. Under subscribed tags or something like that. But I don't think there's. We used to be able to just like, pick up tags that weren't, you know, like, oh, nobody drew this tag. You know, there's under subscribed tags in Arizona. I don't think that's the case anymore, but I'm not sure as a resident, so. But yeah, I would just. I would just kind of think like, get. Find some units so you can hunt and get out and go hunting. Okay.

Dirk (56:23)

Yeah.

Remy Warren (56:24)

Yeah. Great advice. Yeah. Thanks for the call. And before you go, you are my prize Timer has gone off, so you're going to be the winner of our vortex 11 to 33 by 50. Like I call it the baby Viper. We'll get you. I got your number here and we'll get you all squared away with that. So congratulations on.

Dirk (56:47)

Oh, that's phenomenal.

Remy Warren (56:48)

Yeah, thanks so much. So now you actually have to go now you got to get it. You got to make sure you get a tag so you can put that spotter to use, you know? Right.

Dirk (56:57)

I'll put it to good use, I promise.

Remy Warren (56:59)

Perfect. Right on.

Dirk (57:01)

Thank you, Remy.

Remy Warren (57:02)

Yeah, thanks for the call. Best of luck to you. And yeah, we'll keep you. We'll make sure that that gets sent out. And thanks again.

Dirk (57:11)

You bet. Thank you. I sure appreciate it.

Remy Warren (57:15)

All right, well, thank you guys so much for joining in the live call in Q A. I hope you guys enjoyed that and there's quite a few of you vying for that spotting scope if you guys didn't win. I've got my 12 days of Christmas going on. Got. I've got another one in there. I don't know what day it is. I think in day seven or something like that. So Countdown to Christmas. Go to my website, RemyWorn.com I just put on a bunch of different ways to enter because there's, you know, it's kind of hard to do the drawing. So I got like an app that kind of does it. And there's, you can have multiple choices. One of them's like, I mean, you go to the website and then one of them's like, visit the website and you get three chances or five chances or something like that. And then if you subscribe to the podcast, which most everybody listening to this is already subscribed, even if it's something you've already done, you just click those things and it, it auto populates it and then you get, you can get up to like, I don't know how many different names in the hat. So I think the more you do, the better your odds are. I thought it was kind of a fun way just, you know, you can, you can do what you want and someone were just like, click on this website link and it gives you an extra entry, that kind of thing, because it was available for it. So I thought that'll be fun. Just build it out. If people don't want to take the time to do it, better chance than somebody that just breezes through it. So have that up. And that'll be going each day a new prize and new winner. It's always fun. You know, it's cool because been doing it for a few years now. And you, you see some guys like, hey, I won the bow a couple years ago, here's the buck, or yeah, these, these binos. And it's just fun to, to be able to give back to you guys. And then, you know, for those of you that aren't familiar with my email list, there's, there's prizes and dang near every one of those. If you're signed up and you're on it, you get my emails, if you get my email, you're entered every time. And then there's, I try to add a few like, ways to get additional, you know, like, oh, for those that read it, you know, a little reward. For those that read it, I've been putting the kind of the same thing where you go click on, click on my. Whatever it's got a link or whatever you should click on that to, to get entered into the next one. Just way better odds for those that actually open it and, and go through that process. So some more ways to win. I got some other ideas of some maybe one more giveaway kind of thing. I've done quite a few giveaways this year. I was trying to do as many as possible. They're a lot of fun for me to do. So thank you guys again, so much for calling in. Thanks again. Vortex for the, the prize this week and Onyx for the Elite membership. You guys can, if you guys are looking for any optics or whatever, I got some Vortex stuff for sale on my website while you're there. And as always, you can use code livewild or code. I think Remy, get a discount on Onyx membership if you don't have it already. You can do that. That's kind of a deal that we worked out for our listeners. So I think you get maybe 30. I don't know, I think it's off of the, the Elite membership. So try that out. You know, it's awesome to save a little bit of money on stuff that's extremely vital to hunting. I think it's probably one of the best dang tools out there for I. I can't see hunting without it, like knowing where you're at, having all your maps, e scouting, all of it. It's awesome stuff. So until next week, I'm just gonna say live wild. We'll catch you guys later.