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Now this week we're going to talk about five ways to beat bad luck. That's right. We're going to dive into ways to overcome hunts where it just seems like nothing's going right. You just need that little bit of luck and it's not happening. How do you get over that? So this week I actually just got back from my first elk hunt of the year, hunting the first part of September. And, and honestly, it was an incredible hunt where I just had to go into overtime and, and really take it down to the wire to find that success. It, it was one of the most epic weeks that I've had as far as encounters go in probably a really long time. But luck just was not on my side. It was like a ton of elk, really good opportunities, and it just seemed like a little thing would go slightly wrong every time. Like it's just the smallest little detail. So on this episode, we're going to talk about ways to beat bad luck when it comes to hunting. Because there's so many hunts where you might have all the tools, all the knowledge, all the experience, you can do everything right and it can still go wrong. You can do 99% of it right and that 1%, maybe the elk just needs to turn left and it turns right or, you know, you're going to stock and it's bedded and it gets up three seconds naturally before you even get into position. Whatever it is, sometimes you just need a little bit of luck. So we're going to talk about how and we're going to Dive into how to get over the goal line when it seems like the hunt's just not going right. But first I'm going to share the story of last week's hard earned bull. So this past week I actually had a pretty incredible elk hunt. Especially, you know, for the first week of the season. It was kind of hot. And I was going into it with the idea of, man, I'm really gonna have to grind out some bugles. I'm gonna be doing a lot of glassing, probably trying to stock on bedded elk, probably slow action. You know, that, that was kind of my mindset going into it. And so the country that I was hunting was actually very conducive for that kind of action because it was more high deserty type stuff. So in that 7 to 8,000 foot range. But think of like the, a lot of sage, like sage valleys, sage flats kind of thing. And then interspersed with on the mountains, some cover as far as like aspens, pines. And then on some like south, some, well in just different slopes and canyons. Some real thick, thick like spruce patches and spruce forests. So there was, you know, a mixture of COVID a lot of open and then you know, like water, like springs in the draws, a couple of flowing creeks through the valleys. So you could kind of get a variety of tactics going. But there's the opportunity to spot and stock. There's like some high cliffs and trees and rim rock kind of stuff all the way into maybe some more calling country which would be that like the basins and the timber at the top and stuff like that. So I kind of went into the hunt thinking, you know, it's gonna be, it's hot. Like going in, it was, I don't even know how hot it felt like 80 degrees probably somewhere in there, you know, thinking, oh well, you know, not gonna see anything. And so I actually got in the like the evening of the first day or whatever. So went up to kind of glass and check advantage just to see what was around. Cause it was like there wasn't much daylight left. And just to kind of plan and prepare for the next day, go out. And I met up with a buddy of mine, JD and and then I had a buddy of mine, Zach filming. So we all meet up and take the side by side up the mountain, park it and then climb up, just go up over the little ridge, start glassing. And sure enough heard some bugles. Like that's a good feeling. Beginning of September when you got some bulls making noise. Anything can happen. Now there, there was kind of an interesting Thing this week because the moon was starting to get full but the nights were still, you know, like the moon wasn't out a lot but it just seemed like it was, it was, it was moving into that direction of possibly kicking off the rut where we were at. And so, you know, bull bugling. And we actually saw bull pushing cows and, and being pretty active and that, that was promising. So that kind of gave us the idea of like, all right, well if bulls are going to start making noise, maybe this can be a calling game really. So the next morning we decided to start high. We went to this spot on the backside of where we actually saw that we were thinking like, you know, let's look for a really good bull and you never know what you might find, right? So we went over the backside and sure enough, like I can't. I think we were like walking out. We started, we actually started glassing in the morning because I was like, we were just kind of still. Sometimes it's like it's just better to get a little preview, see where elk are at or animals are at. But with the plan of going on the backside and ripping some bugles and seeing what happens. So we started, we started glassing some country. It was like these like a pretty timbered draw. A lot of like there's a big wallow in there and some aspens and some other stuff. Saw quite a few elk but nothing we were interested in chasing. There's like a lot of cows. A couple smaller bulls did get a bugle off into one of the canyons but I think it was just like a little small five point that we'd seen go in there. Like a two year old bull kind of thing. And for this particular hunt I was really hoping for like a mature six point because I don't know, I had time. I had another, I have another tag in my pocket but I. A deer tag that I really wanted to go hunt in another place. But I thought let's just, let's hunt the elk and if I tag out early I'll go and do that other hunt. So we go, we don't really see anything that we're too crazy about and get over to the top, hike into this little spot. It's like, I don't know, it's probably mid morning like 11am and I like to bugle because if you can get a bull to bugle at 11, probably going to be a pretty good day, right? It just gives you that bonus. We're throwing out bugles, not really expecting much and a Bull lights off below us, and he is just angry. So like, all right, here we go. I was pretty excited. So we work down. We get over there. Like we. We get up on this rim. We actually spooked out a couple smaller bulls like down below that weren't making noise. Just a bachelor group, young bulls. And. And then we're moving down like it's a rim and we're getting this little valley below us. It's beautiful canyon with like wallows and timber and everything. So we get to above where we can see the. There's like this patch of aspens that they're bugling in. And there's a bull bugling in there. Now the unfortunate part is that the bull is on a piece of private like that we can't hunt. So the bull's, you know, on private. He's bugling. And so we're watching and I'm bugling back. Just seem like, well, maybe he's by himself. Maybe it's a lone bull. It's not. It's a bull that has a bunch of cows and he is just a dominant herd bull. And he pushes him out. And it was a big bull, like a 350 type bull. And so he was like just pushing cows. And all these other elk are getting active and there's like quite a few bulls in there. Like, whoa. We just lucked into a, like a really active herd. The bad luck is there's somewhere we can't hunt. So it's like, well, it's a small piece of. It's like a hundred and I don't know, like a couple hundred acre piece. 160, whatever. And you know, we. There is like, there is a, you know, state on one side and it's like you could. All they had to do is move off of this little thing is like in the flat in the open, there's some timber and stuff, but like there's just way better country off of this private. Those elk knew the boundary line, it seemed like, because they start pushing each other and like, oh, maybe they're going to go off on that side and we can make a play or figure it out. So they'd go toward that other, like the boundary line and then he'd run them back and get back in the trees. We spent the majority of the day just watching him thinking, okay, we gotta come off of here. And never did. But it was. It was like a bullet. It's like worth like maybe something's gonna happen. Like maybe he's just gonna get like, it's early in the season. Maybe he's just gonna peel off of those cows or what have you. So it didn't. It didn't really work out that day. So the next day, like, let's go back, see if that bull's pulled off. Like, we're thinking maybe at some point he's going to. Like, you'd think he would. They just. He had these elk bedded out in the open. Like they're baking in the sun, and they've got cover around. Like, they're gonna. They're gonna pop off and go into the shade. Nope, Stayed on the. Stayed on the private. So the next day, like, okay, that sucks. Like, you just dedicated a day to some bulls you can't kill, right? And you're constantly like, okay, am I just wasting my time? Should I go look for other elk? But here we found a really good bull. It's not like he was deep into this. Miles into a place. Like, we glassed him up, and it's like miles. It's like he's within a hundred yards of the boundary, and, like, it's a fence that they could easily cross. You know, we saw cows and other things going back and forth. It's just. We just need the bull to get into a place where we can hunt him. So he went back the next day, and I'm trying to think now. He. He just wasn't there. We didn't. We didn't see him. So he might have moved. He moved off, I guess. We did hear some bugles, like, but there's a place that we couldn't see on the backside and kind of bugled into there, you know, Didn't. Didn't really see. Didn't really see him or whatever. So. Just didn't work out. Like, okay, there's bulls bugling. Can't see if that bull's in there. But we just assumed that he was in there on the. In the timbered side on the private. And so we just decided, all right, we got to get out of here. We gotta go find some elk. So we went completely different spot, turned up some. Some smaller bulls, but nothing too crazy. So the next day, we kind of went to a canyon fairly close to where that was. And sure enough, there was a hurt. There was some elk. So we were going to a different place. And we go in and start to call, and there's just a ton of elk. And so we're calling and have my buddy JD get set up and see if we can call bullying. Cause we move in on this herd and we're pretty close. We call and they did not. They were. There was just like, bugles everywhere. And just like, wow, these elk are like mid morning and they're going crazy. End up. The wind shifts, like, as this bull's starting to walk in, wind shifts, and there's so many elk that there's some off to our right. Wind blows over, they run out. And sure enough, in that herd is that big bull. So he's somewhere we can hunt. He drops down, and we like, kind of sneak in, try to make a play on him. There's just so many elks. So it's like one of those where you're calling, they're calling, they kind of stop. There's just like, the herd's split up now. Bulls are everywhere. Just epic, epic action. And then we crawl down. Like, they finally get out into this one spot, and there's like the edge of the timber. I'm like, he's close enough to the edge of the timber. He's like, in this little hole, just like ripping up the ground. If we can just get down there, like, he's within. He's within range. So we bomb down in there, crawl in. As soon as we get to the edge, he was like 60 yards, and he moves off to like 120. And he's with all the cows and his hand just wide open. So we do some calling and all that stuff, and then we just hang out there. And then all the elk push off and go into where we can't hunt again. So it was like, I mean, just a matter of timing, like if we were there a little bit sooner. But there was so many other elk to navigate around, and it's just like, like close, but not close enough. It's like, it was just that, that right distance where it's just, you know, too far out of range and there's no getting closer. There was hundreds of elk, hundreds of cows, I would say, and just, you know, other bulls and stuff going on. And just the wide open. Tried calling, doing all that stuff, but it just didn't work. So the next day, we. We end up. It's like the elk did come off, but, you know, we kind of got to see, like, maybe they'll be back. So we start back in that same general area where we can call. We start calling. Nothing where they bend. So they're just, you know, I don't know where they went. They're gone. And then we. We go around the other side of the mountain, and it's still like, you know, we Got in. The plan was, like, you know, start bugling in the dark to see if we can, like, hear recognized bugles. So, you know, nothing was bugling where they've been. They must have just pushed off. To where? Somewhere else. Like, further into where we can't hunt. So we just abandoned that, went over the other side of the mountain and got a bull to fire up. And so he. He fires up, we drop down, and it's like the wind's perfect. It's in our face. We're bugling. There's a wallow. Like, as we're moving in on him. I can see the cows. We can see the bul. We've got good cover. We drop down, there's a wallow right there. He's, like, kind of pushing the cows to this wallow. He's fired up, man. He's bugling, I'm bugling. Everything's working great. And then the wind just, like, shifts, like it does in the morning, and starts sucking downhill and blows him out. So they run into the timber or whatever. And so it was kind of weird because I think it was just like one cow got wind and moved off. Or maybe they just didn't want to mess with that bull and moved off as well. Like, maybe they're kind of like the cows are kind of pushing away. But he was interested in coming in. And then one of the cows left, and they all left. So follow him in. And it was like a nice bull. It was a bull that was like, all right, this. Like, I still have some time. It was a good bull, but, you know, we were just looking at, like, a giant bull saying, like, oh, man, you gotta. You gotta recalibrate here. And so we go up in the timber and we get another bull to fire off up above us. And this bull sounds close and mean. And it's got that, like, just good bugle. So we get up in there. I'm doing the bugle thing. Cow calling. He's responding to the cow calls. This is looking promising. See some cows probably, like, 80 to 100 yards out. And then see the bull, like, a good bull, pushing, like, some cows through the timber. So I dropped back. Cause I know we got cows in between. Drop back, kind of go wide. I've got good wind to try to get into position to try to call this bull in. So I'm there, I'm calling, you know, doing the whole thing. It's like the. The bugle, the. I think the big bull started to push his cows further away. But I'm calling and all of a sudden, like 30 yards, a small bull pops up, like a small, like a rag horn type bull. And then another one and another one. And it was like a group of five young bulls, like three, four points, one five point all together, like, are kind of like, ooh, what's the party over here? And had them all within range. But I'm like, all right, these are, you know, there's plenty of hunts where I would have shot those bulls. I mean, I'm like, right now I'm doing this podcast in my, like, garage thing here, and I've got, you know, three bulls exactly like those bulls I'm describing right here that I. That I've shot with my bow or what have you, you know, in just different areas, different times. But, you know, we were seeing a lot of good elk. You know, the action was actually pretty good. And it was just bulls, bulls to pass, you know, past, you know, pass those bulls up, tried to move around, tried to relocate that bigger bull that was screaming. And then just kind of. It just kind of died off. We died off for that. But it was cool to just kind of get that. Get that encounter and have those bulls so close. It was just fun. So then, you know, the next day, I'm trying to think how, like, the order of things. It's funny, it was just the other day, but there was like, it was long days, very little sleep, and quite a bit of action, right? And you almost kind of forget what happened between the days. But we decided to kind of go to a place where maybe we could glass a little bit and see what we could find and see if we could find that big herd again. And maybe they've moved off somewhere else. And so we get to our glassing vantage and start bugling. It's like, I'm like, let's bugle in the dark, see if we can get anything fired up. And we hear this, like, faint bugle over the mountain behind us where we were going to glass from. So we get into that valley and like, it's just wide open, like big sagey, deserty stuff. And there's like a thousand elk. I mean, I don't know, there's a lot of elk and there's like a herd way over here. Like, probably 300 elk here and like a big herd over here, a couple hundred elk bulls bugling everywhere. And there was like three nice six points in this herd below us. And then we can kind of hear some elk behind us and there are ways away and, like, there's no approach on these Elk. But I'm thinking, like, well, let's just maybe see where they go. So we drop down the mountain a little bit, circle around. As luck would have it, they end up, like, deciding to push the cows. Like, the bulls start chasing, and they're bugling, and they're pushing the cows, like, in a direction that's pretty close to where we're at. So I can hear them coming. We're going to try to get to this little, like, I don't know, like, little dip in the hill. I'm thinking maybe it's like, probably three inches of sage just wide open. There's no cover at all, but, you know, there's a little bit of terrain. So we're moving, and as we're kind of going to that spot we want to get to, a cow pops out. So we just lay down, and we're probably 250 yards away at this point, and here comes the herd, and it's like bulls pushing, and we're laying there for, I don't know, 45 minutes, and we have these elk just 200 yards away. Like, if we were just a little bit closer, you know, maybe something. We're just praying, like, you follow this fence. There's like, a fence line there. And I'm like, man, follow this fence, line up, and we'll have these bulls in our lap. There's a nice six point, and they end up pushing down, which is like, all right, well, they got to go one of two ways, and they decided to push down, cross there, and go down the next draw. We try to go, cut them off, and got elk kind of going by, but they're just out of range. Like, it's like we just kept being out of range of elk, it seemed like. And so it's like they were always just 120 yards or what have you. So they push off, go into a different zone, and so they end up pushing up the mountain and into, like, some, like, toward the head of this mountain. And I'm like, man, if we can just beat them to the top, like, they're going. They've got a bunch of ridges. We just go around and just really, like, hustle. Like, they're going to be pushing each other, and we might be able to get it in front of them in a way. Just going to be really, like, super athletic. And so we do. We, like, just hustle and try to get around. And they're like, you know, they're. Every time they go to a ridge, they're kind of messing with each other, and Bulls are running around and they're doing their rut thing. They aren't like, trying to get away from anything. They're just like, the herd's moving fast because action's fast. So we go around, we climb up straight to the top. We get to the top, look down, and they're below us, like, good wind kind of coming our way. And I think they're going to just hold up in this head basin. And so before they went over, we saw, like, all the elk kind of go by. And when they got on the big mountain, I glassed up and I'm like, dude, there's a big bowl in there. It looks like a really good bowl, like a six by seven sweet bowl. And, you know, one that we didn't see come by us. So maybe it was just up there by himself, heard the commotion, joined in. So we get in there, we, like, you know, spend the entire day kind of like sitting on these elk, waiting, doing that whole thing. And so, you know, it's like evening time. They're gonna start moving. And we've got good, like, stocking opportunities. So kind of like keep moving into where the elk are and seeing how far it's like, always just out of range, and it's wide open, but there's, like, this rim. So it's like if they get close enough to this rim, you know, you have an opportunity to move and shoot. So we're just kind of laying there. We've got elk, you know, everywhere. Bulls, you know, kind of hanging out for most of the day. I mean, probably sat on them for five, six hours, whatever, maybe a little longer. We're seeing. We've seen all the bulls where, like, that big bull's not here. And then we hear a bugle in the timber, and we're thinking, okay, that's the big bull. And that bull comes out, and it's like, not the. The big one that I thought I saw go over the ridge. And I'm like, man, I wonder if he just pulled away from the herd. So I start glassing and, like, sure enough, like, maybe I think it was 900. Almost 1,000 yards away, bedded by himself with a good wind. 40 yards below the rim is this really big bull, and he's just, like, bedded in the shade. I'm like, that's. That's absolutely, like a stock opportunity of a lifetime, right? So we, like, grab our stuff, run back down the mountain, go around, and, like, I, you know, I dropped a pin on it, you know, ranged it. Took many pictures. Like, okay, We're. We're in there. We get to about 400 yards from where he's at, and when I first saw him, he was laying down, sleeping. Now it's that time of day where the bulls, the elk are going to start get moving. So I'm like, we got to. We got. Got to get there. So we're moving in, and the elk that were up on the mountain are just kind of like, starting to make noise and move off and move around. And so those elk actually push up over the mountain. And so when I was 400 yards away from where that bull was, I saw the big bull still bedded there. Perfect spot. So we move in, like, creep up to the edge and pop over, and no elk. And I'm like, are we even in the right spot? So I recheck everything, check the pictures on my camera. Like, dude, this looks like the dead tree. You know, he came in from the backside, but I don't know. So we, like, take our shoes off, creep down, and I find his two beds, and, you know, he's got his bed there, and it's like, dude, he was right here. This is where he is. So did he. Did he wind us? Did he blow out? Or is it just like he heard those other elk move and is now just, like, shadowing that elk herd and waiting? Like, the typical story of, like, the big bull. Like, I'm just going to walk down there and take them all kind of thing. So, like, okay. And it's like, Zach knows. He's like, look, it's like he bedded. He stood up, and he just pissed right here. It's not like he ran out. He, like, walked off. So we decided to move in the only direction that we couldn't see. And I bugle, and he bugles back. I'm like, he's. He's here still. He just walked off. But I mean, like, the time that it took to. For us, for seeing him at 400 yards, he would have walked off within a minute. Just naturally walked off within a minute of us getting to that spot. You know, I mean, there's, like, the timing of it. Just such bad luck. Like, it just would have. Like, it was so perfect. And he just happened to wander off. Probably been laying there all day and just wanders off within a few minutes of when we would have popped over and seen him. And so he ends up, you know, moving off. We bugle. He's like, bugles back, but he knows that there's a couple hundred real elk up above on the top of the mountain. So he starts going up the mountain. We, like, try to cut him off. Same deal. I get to about 120 yards. He moves by, goes with the herd, and then they all run off like it just didn't work out. And so it's like, okay, just another, like, close call, but not close enough. Like, had I spotted him sooner or he just been bedded there for a couple minutes longer, it would have been a completely different story. So next day, we go. It's like we're struggling to pick up elk. We kind of go into another different basin. About midday, you know, I get a bugle down below. I'm like, all right, let's. Let's move in on it. So we dropped down the mountain, Did a big loop around the bugle. It's kind of hard to tell where the bugle was at, but it's like, there's two ridges, and it was definitely on that. The further ridge. So we're going in, and the smaller six point is like, heard us calling, and it's kind of coming to us, but, like, well, that other bugle sounded. We got to see what else is in here. So we go down. We drop down the mountain and go around this bowl and, like, creeping down where that bugle sounded, like, don't see the bull. Get set up in these rocks. We hear the bugle again. But it's like he's doing that bugle where it's like, he just doesn't want to be. He's got a few cows. Probably doesn't want to lose them. That, like, just real short. Whatever. It's hard to hear in the wind and stuff. And he's. He's only a couple hundred yards away, but down. Not where we could get to. There's enough cows around. It's like, you can't make a play right now. So we watch him. He's checking cows. They bed. He's ripping stuff up bed. And so we sit on him for, you know, I don't know, four or five hours, kind of similar deal just make. I'm like, let's let him do something stupid, right? Let's. Hopefully he does something dumb before we do something dumb kind of thing. So we watch him. They start getting. Getting active again. And so they're all there. You know, there's just, like. We keep thinking, okay, can we get around the other side? I don't know. You know, it's like, let's just keep being patient. Maybe an opportunity will show itself. So all of a sudden, the cows move off, and he's there just ripping up this tree kind of by himself. This is our moment. So we go in, we have to sneak around a couple elk. So we, we kind of have to pick our route, come up, we go down in. And now I was like, okay, the, the other elk have moved up the mountain. The cows, he's gonna go try to cut them off. But there's been this time in between where we don't know where he's at. So I'm creeping over the hill to where, you know, like I can see I knew where the cows kind of went over. So I'm like, I can go down and maybe intercept him sooner or I can go to kind of where I thought the cows went over. Like, I've got this decision to go like here or here. It's like a 20 year difference, right? Because it's like two good approaches. So I go up to the left because I don't know if he's already got to the cows. So I go up to the left and sure enough, the cows are there within range. There's some trees. I creep, I crawl up. I've got a tree, I've got like a cow at like 30 yards. I'm laying down. The rest of the cows are like 80. I look off to my right and about 50 yards away, there's the bull. But he's behind a tree like. And if I would have just gone the other way, I would have had probably a 40, 50 yard shot at the bull broadside in the open, the way that, that laid out. But now I can't back out. So I'm just going to wait for him to go like, check these cows and all this stuff sitting there waiting. He goes and checks the cows and of course, like goes to the further cows. It's just like they're like 80. It's, it's just not a. It's not an ideal shot. I'm hoping that he's gonna, you know, push him closer. And then they just like do the thing that elk do during the rut and you go off like. So they go down the mountain. I don't know if they caught movement or anything or just running, running around like trying to get away from a bull that really wants to push him around. They drop down in the flat, we shadow them, we're crawling in, they're moving out like it's just this cat and mouse game. Just trying to stay close enough until they do something dumb again. And they're very on alert, like looking all over. The cows are definitely paying Attention. And then we're probably like the same deal. Like 120 yards. 120. Like just constantly too far. And then the cows move off and he stays and feeds. I'm like, okay, let's make a move. So we make a move. He goes over the rise. Soon as he goes over the rise, we run up to it. There's one opening in the trees and. And he's there, head down, feeding, within range. And there's like a stick coming off of a tree. I like, range the bowl, I look at the stick, I range the stick. And so like, he's like, you know, 10 yards past the stick. So I draw back, I settle my pin, I put my pins to check the pin gap. And I'm like, okay, when I hold it here, I know that halfway between. Is that where. Where it would hit Exactly. And I'm like, it's gonna go. My arrow is gonna go through this, like these two branches. So I set it. I mean, it's good. He's now like, turn back, look. I shoot and like, it's one of those shots where it just breaks absolutely perfect. And I can see that arrow flying perfect toward this bull. And it's just like. And then it just goes like off to his right. Well, it had gone through the gap of sticks that I thought, well, from my, like, you know, I didn't like, really focus on the stick. There was quite a few pencil sized sticks in hindsight, that you could see through the little gap in the stick. So my estimate of it going through the stick and not hitting the big branch was right. What I didn't realize is the little tiny branches in there that it hit, deflected the arrow and missed the bull. Just like, damn it. You know, I was like, that was my opportunity. So next day is like the last day, you know, had some really good, like, it's like, all right, just go hard. We just, I mean, I don't know, like these days we were putting in some miles and, you know, and then like the last day, we end up chasing a bunch of bulls, like, calling, getting in. It's like they were, you know, we're making all the right plays. Every right, every move. Like I called in a ca. Like a spike, ended up coming in on one of them that I could have kicked. Like, it just was, I don't know, a foot away from me. The bigger bull was just, you know, like, on the other side. We move up, there's a bull that kind of spooks out because we heard a bugle up above. And it turned out there's multiple more bulls in there than we thought. Moving on this bull. And it just like, it was constantly, like a matter of just like inches, you know, it's like, here's a bull behind some bushes and he needs to go right and they go left. And it's just like, just kind of a comedy of errors. We probably put in 20 miles that day just chasing elk and just so many close encounters and not working out. And that was the last day of the hunt, technically, because we had like. I was like, we got a. My buddy Zach, who's filming, had to fly out that next evening. So we look at. And I actually had to. I had like a, I don't know, 13, 14 hour drive because I had to pick up. My family was flying in, and I had to pick him up from an airport that was about 13 hours away. I told him I'd pick him up. So. So we're like, all right, well, you know, we're planning on being done this day. I was planning on driving back, you know, driving that next day. I'm like, well, you know, we got some time. It's like, it was like, well, let's just. We can hunt till, like, you know, noon or whatever. And I think we'll still. You'll still make your flight. You still have time to get out of here. And I can still, you know, I'd have plenty of time to drive or whatever and split the drive up. So we go out and like, all right, let's just go back to where we kind of like that property line area. We get some a bugle. First thing in the morning, we move in. It's like, oh, yeah, it sounds like it's in the right zone. We sneak up, pop over the ledge, and the bull's like five yards on the wrong side of the fence. Oh, I forgot to even mention the night before. It was like, okay. We ended up going, like, chasing elk, and there's like a property line, like, the elk were like, fully off the property line, like, in places we can hunt. And then we end up chasing this bull. And I've got him. This was the night before, like 15 yards through this thick stuff, and all he has to do is turn around, just walk through this brush, and I can get him. And it was like, nope. And so they move forward one little more. Move forward. There's like one opening. They go forward and they just crossed out of, like, where we could. Where we could. It's just like, there's the bulls, like, within range. It's like, right on. They just stepped on the other side of this. This property line. So frustrating, right? Like, I just got to get away from this thing. But there's clearly, you know, like, a lot of elk there because they liked that area and whatever, and they're moving back and forth, so it was worth hunting. So that next morning we're like, well, maybe those bulls have pulled off again. So we go and check and then like, get into position and like, sure enough, it's like the same deal. It's like all this bull. Every single cow that this bull had was where we could shoot it. And the bull and one other cow were on the other side, like, the wrong side. So we came up like, you could hear the elk. We creep up and we're like literally pretty close to the line there. And all the cows are like, you know, quite a bit aways from it. So we're like, we got a good wind and then we're gonna move up, like, get eyes on them, move in, whatever. And he's the only one held back with a cow on the wrong side. And unfortunately too, then the wind starts drifting down and then they blow out. It was like we could have killed any of the elk except for the stinking bull. It's like, man, just every. It just seemed like a string of bad luck. Like, just like everything was like, just a little wrong. We didn't do anything wrong. It's just like everything just kind of seemed to be going wrong. So I was like, all right, well, you know, we went check. No more bugles. Quiet day. Just kind of slow. Like after that, it was like 10am and we're like, all right, we gotta. We're gonna head back. So we head back, we get to one glass of man's like, let's just look at this one spot. Glass it up. It's like smoky, kind of whatever. It's slow day glass, and I'm glassing. I see an elk, like, bedded in a good spot, and I'm like, man, I don't know if it's a bull, though. I just see it's like backside. So. Spent about a half an hour trying to get a view of its head. And it's just too, like, the lighting's really bad. It's a long ways off. And then some cloud cover comes in and kind of changes the way that we can see. And it's like, that's a bowl. And it's a nice bowl. It's a nice six point. And it's a place that I actually knew Because I'd been there before and seen and elk bedded there before and knew that like, I could go over the cliff. There's like a game trail that goes right through the cliffs, goes right to this. The wind's good and it's like, okay, we got. Do we have time? I'm like, I'm going to stay because I'm driving. Like, I can drive through the night if I have to. Zach had to leave, so I call buddy and like, hey, can you meet us at the bottom and Zach's going to jump in with you. He's like, sure, I'll meet you guys over there. So we grab our stuff, we go to the. We go around. And like, I'm like, dude, at any point, just like, you can stop filming. I'll. I've got like a hand. I'll just use like a GoPro kind of thing and just whatever, you know, it's final. I can self film. I've done plenty of. But like, if you gotta back out at any point, just back out because you got a flight to catch and it's just a pain to, you know, miss it and have to figure it out. So. So I was like, all right, so we, we creep in there and like the, the countdown clock is starting because like, we're like, all right, the drop dead time's like noon. He has to leave. And it's like pretty close to that. And so we crawl in. The bull's still bedded. We move in and I'm like 40, 50 yards. I see him, okay, and he's just got some brush in front of like, he's. There's like bedded where there's like a stick force in the vitals and like no shot. So I'm like, let's go around. And maybe the way these bed, I could like slip narrow in. So we get around, crawl in like 40 yards. And there's just like, just one branch. It's like everything is open. Just one branch covering his vitals. And I'm like, we're going to have to wait until he stands. So Zach just holds back a little bit. I crawl up and get into position. I'm 44 yards away, just waiting on the bull. Like, I've got a perfect stick blocking his eyes so he can't see me. But you know, stuff's blocking his vitals. I'm like, when he stands though, I'll be able to get a shot. So we're just waiting. He's, you know, squirrel ended up running by him, like in the front he kind of got alert and was looking around, looked back toward us, you know, he doesn't see us because we're moving. Like, everything's good. I, like, start to look back towards Zach, be like, dude, if you got to get out of here, go for it, man. Like, I know we're sitting 40 yards on a bull, but if you got to go, it's cool. I'm cool. I'm just going to sit here and try to kill this bull. He's like. So I start to look back, and the bull whips his head over. Just happenstance, I think. So I freeze. And like, within two minutes after that, the bull gets up. He gets up. He's like, start now quartering to me, and I have open shot, but I'm not going to take this shot. And he's staring, and I'm just frozen. And, like, I've got enough cover where I'm pretty sure he can't see me. So he's staring, and then, sure enough, he just starts to walk off. Walks through the trees, walks. I. I'm at full draw now. I give him that. He stops, and perfect shot. He runs. I don't even know if it was 20 yards that whatever, and just bam, down the mountain, he's down within. I mean, as fast as a bull can be down, it's over. It was just like, all those things of things not going right. Like, he could have easily got up and gone the wrong the other way and it wouldn't have not given me a shot, right? But he got up, he went the right way, and in the very last minute, killed the bull. Like, we went up, we got some video, picture, whatever. And I'm like, all right, Zach, get out here. We can. We can figure this out. There's actually some other guys in there that ended up helping me pack it out, which was incredible. And so. So he made it down, got out of there, and, I mean, that's about as last minute as it gets. And so got back to camp, you know, took care of the elk and all that stuff, loaded up my truck, and I'm like, all right, I gotta drive. And essentially just drove all night. I got tired. I slept for, like, two hours, because I was pretty tired. Been up since 3:30 that morning, slept for two hours, and ended up making it to the airport 20, like, 25 minutes after my wife and kids flew in. So cut it to the very, like, end of when I was, you know, planning to be back, but, man, what. What an incredible hunt. It was just one where, you know, there Was. I mean, within that, you know, like, there was a lot of. I had just. It just seemed like encounter after encounter of things where it's like the bulls were either right there or just went the wrong way or just had moved. It was just like, continually like, oh, if one little thing was different, we would have killed an elk. But yet it was like they were always just that little bit out of reach. And it just seemed like it was just like, man, just like a lot of bad luck. We just need one to do something just a little bit different. And then in the end, it was kind of that, you know, taking it into overtime. The, like, you do it enough, and eventually, you know, the stars are going to line up and it's going to work out. So one of the things that I think, you know, I wanted to talk about is, like, how to beat bad luck. Because there's so many hunts where it's like, you. You do everything right. You, like, you. There's. There was this point at the hunt like that, that day before, I was pretty at peace with, like, you know, as far as, you know, you go on a hunt, you want to be successful, you want to find that success, and you hunt your butt off to find it, right? But it was like, I had some incredible encounters, and it just seemed like it was just kind of like a string of, like, things that just didn't go right. Like, we did everything right. There wasn't. There was a lot of opportunity. Sometimes I'll do something, and I'm like, man, I really blew it there. Like, on that caribou hunt, that stock was just a dumb stock, the one that first blew the caribou. And I was like, I really blew that. You know, I made a bad call. It was like, we kept making good calls and just. It didn't work out. Like, the bad. Not necessarily bad things happened, but just, like, bad timing, bad this, bad that. Like, just a little bit of bad luck. You know, there's hunts like that where it's like, you. You, like, you do everything right, and it just doesn't work out. Like, there could be plenty elk. It could be. I mean, I was. I was thinking, because, like, I was talking to Zach, and I'm like, man, there's like, times where some of the best elk hunting days I've ever had. I didn't kill an elk because it was just like, wild, incredible elk action, elk behavior, all this stuff, yet it's like there's too many elk around or something goes wrong, and you just don't end up Getting an elk, but it's like, was really good hunting and that's what we were running into, really good hunting. Just no success. Like, it was just, you know, I would almost trade that sometimes for like, really slow hunts where you end up killing a bull. You know, it's like, man, I just had some phenomenal encounters. Just like incredible elk action. Like, I can't wait to show you guys a video because it's. I think like I could make a two hour video of just constant, like elk doing elk things. And it was just pretty cool. It's cool to be in the midst of that and so close to it. Like, that's. That to me is what the reason that I chase these September seasons is like for days like that, and to have mult a couple days like that within a week of hunting is phenomenal. Especially early in September, right? So I'm like hoping, man, maybe I can get a couple more days like that, you know, And I was pretty at peace with being like, you know, it was a really good hunt. Like, everything was phenomenal and just a string of bad luck, right? But there are ways, like, over the years, I felt like there are a few things that you can do to buck the bad luck. And this is one that I talk about a lot. But it is absolutely true. It doesn't matter, you know, how good you are at hunting or how many elk hunts you've been on that are successful, this, that and the other thing, the number one thing, you know, I wrote down about five things to beat bad luck. And number one, I would say, is persistence. Because especially when it comes to archery, elk hunting or bow hunting, you know, persistence is, it puts you in that odds game. It's like you do it long enough and then something's gonna push something in your favor. You just have to stay after it. In our case, it was like, we just needed that one more morning. And I've been on hunts where I just keep pushing it and pushing it and then I'm like, hey, I'm successful because I had the, the time to put in time. Time kills animals 100%. You know, it's like, man, if you could, if you could, you know, exchange, you know, okay, knowledge in an area is very, is very good. You know, having that like, helps you get in on animals, helps you have those encounters, right? All these other things. But like, really what, what separates a lot of people that are like, continually successful is just being able to put in the time. You know, I always say, like, success is the intersection of persistence and luck. You just need to be persistent enough to be lucky, right? Like, I've never in. And this might sound weird because I've had, like, a lot of success hunting, but I've been a pretty unlucky. Like, I'm not the guy that, like, things kind of just walk into. I'm the guy that, like, yeah, I got to bust my butt for everything I've ever taken for the most part. Maybe there's a handful that I probably don't even remember anymore where just, like, was like, dang, that was really lucky. But for the most part, like, everyone's like, I'm like, I'm the guy that shoots everything on the last day because I'm like, I am just, you know, I have a lot, like, a string of bad luck, but I'm so persistent that I can overcome that bad luck by just doing it enough. Like, just, you know, beating my head against the wall, per se, enough times that it breaks through. I guess. Like, I think that that is the most effective arrow in your quiver would be persistence. Like, to have that skill, to be able to get up and hunt hard day after day and keep after it till the very last second. Like, if you've got an extra. You can go an extra few hours, a few minutes, a few seconds. Whatever it is, you go, you do it. You. You, like, just keep after it. You keep going and going and going, and then eventually you create your own luck, you know, because you can do everything right and things can still go wrong, you know, Even for myself, it's like, there are hunts where I struggle. There are hunts where I struggle to find some. Sometimes you can struggle, and it's like, man, this by all accounts, should be easy. Yet nothing's working out right. How do I get that to work out right? And sometimes you just have to be persistent enough to make it work out. And. And that's like. In some ways, it's like a hard pill to swallow because you're like, you know, I know how to call elk. I know how to stock elk. I know how to do all these things. But sometimes it just doesn't work out. But if I do it enough times, it will work out. And so persistence, I think, can be one of the most effective tools we can have as hunters. And it's one of the things, too. It's like, to be honest, it's hard to be persistent. It's like, you have to be willing to. We didn't sleep much this week, to be honest. It's like we were getting in pretty late by the Time we ate and whatever in camp is like. I think I got to bed at 11 to 12 every night and got up at what, 3:45 every morning. It's like, you're running hard, you know, in the middle of the day, my eyes wanted to shut. But what I was doing was hiking and looking around. Like, I was. We were grinding. And to be honest, like, the hunt was like. We were turning up elk. We were having encounters. We were making plays, but we were being vigilant. We were being persistent. We were hunting and getting after it. And, you know, and I guess really it's like, man, the hunt almost ended for the most part, like, when we were planning on leaving. But it's like we looked at everything and we're like, we can eek out of maybe an extra half a day in here and make it work. And it worked out and easily could not have worked out. But it was like we just needed that one more encounter, that one right opportunity to kind of shift the winds in our favor. Number two is tactics. I think that using a variety of tactics and looking for that odds maker can help buck bad luck. You know, I think bad luck happens sometimes. Like, man, I just, you know, like, there. There are times. I know so many, like, I was just walking in an area, this bull walked up, and I shot it. It's like, I've hunted a lot of days, and that's never really, like, that doesn't really ever happen for me. I know people that happens to all the time. It's like, man, you think, like, I'm paying a lot, like, whatever, it just. It doesn't happen. But I do think that you can find and use different tactics to kind of create better odds for your situation. Right? So one of the things that was like, we did a lot on this hunt was the variety of tactics, which was, okay, man, we're gonna go. We're gonna do some calling because they're calling and we can get in the timber and that might increase our odds. Like, we kept getting just. We kept. It was open enough where we just couldn't close the gap. Like, we were continually 100 to 150 yards, but we couldn't get that, like, extra 50 yards closer. You know, it was just like, it was just a little too far every time. And so, like, that. That was. Things was like, let's change our tactics a little bit. Let's get into that thick timber where on the thick timber day, man, we were. We were within range of tons of elk. You know, we just didn't get Shots because it was too, too thick really. But you know, changing the tactics a little bit. And then it's like, okay, well that didn't work. We need to find like a, a bull that was by himself. Okay. So we end up finding a bull that was by himself earlier in that, but he just moved off too soon. Now we're like, okay, there's going to be some bulls that pull away from these herds. Those are the ones we need to look for. And we were actually kind of picking a spot to glass. That last ditch effort is like, let's find, we got to find a lone bull. Like we just gotta get in the glass, zoom the magnification up and look in little pockets and holes and turned one up and it worked out right. So changing the tactics, spot and stock tactics, calling tactics, ambush tactics. Having just a variety of tactics can increase your success when like things just aren't going right with the way that you're hunting. Number three, and this is super important is just to hunt hard. You know, hunting hard just gives you more chances of it working out. It goes back to persistence. But I think that, you know what, whatever your strategy is too, right, like if you're, if you're like there, you could be stand hunting elk. You could be like sitting a wallow in a stand. But it's like depending on how you're, you're gonna do it, are you gonna sit there like, what, what does that look like? Is it like sleeping the whole time or is it like being vigilant? Because like something could come in and, and you need to be paying attention. Same goes for however you're hunting, right? Like going, going at it with, you know, everything that you got. It does make a big difference. And I mean like by the end of the, by the end of the hunt, honestly, I was probably, I don't know, like the adrenaline so high and you're just like, so in the game that you don't even notice. Like, it's like you barely eat, you barely sleep and you just hike and you just go and you just, you just hunt. But it's like on those hunts, those are the ones where you're just, you feel like you're really grinding it out and then it ends up working out because you were hunting hard. In my opinion, I think that like the, when I, when I'm not hunting hard, not doing that and find success, I think that that's just like the luck thing. So to beat that bad luck, you just have to work harder than the bad luck is working against you. In a way. And hunting hard, like, it just means that for the time allotted, you can include that persistence and do it to the best of your actual ability. Like, there was so many times where we were like, geez, okay. It was like we messed. Like, it just didn't work out. It's like, okay, we gotta go find another opportunity. And so it's like, we gotta go hike over there. We don't want to hike over there because we've just been hiking everywhere, but we gotta go hike over there because maybe we. We haven't been over there and there might be an opportunity over there. So we hike over there. And that's what it was like. Okay. We kept getting into encounters. We kept increasing our encounters because we kept putting in the work to get more encounters. And it was like, sometimes you just gotta keep putting in that hard work, hunting hard to get more encounters. And because every time you get an encounter, there's a chance that you can turn that thing around. Turn that thing around, turn that thing around. And sooner or later, that persistence pays off and you find your success. Number four, you have to beat bad luck. You have to stay positive. Stuff does not work out on hunts. Like, you want to talk about a guy that's seen stuff not work out? I've been on a lot of hunts, and all the ones that work out, you kind of. Everybody forgets about the stuff that didn't work out, right? It's like, man, that guy's successful. It works out for him. It's like, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that didn't work out too. But you have to look at every opportunity as the opportunity. You go in there in your mind, like, this is my chance. But what happens is there's a little caveat to this. Okay? So it's like, you go in there with that expectation of, like, I'm gonna make this work. This is my chance, right? But when it doesn't work out, people get deflated, people get defeated, and then another one comes around and they're like, it's not gonna work out. When you've had multiples of those happen over the course of a hunt, you start to get in a weird headspace, which kind of makes you. You go into the experience with that expectation of it not working out, and you make bad decisions. So every opportunity you have to think of it is the opportunity, and then every missed opportunity, you have to see as an awesome encounter. And that's what I do. It's like, man, that didn't work out. But that was an awesome encounter. That was close. It was an awesome encounter because it's building experience. It's turning that, like, dang it. Not working out into an awesome encounter for that next one. Because when you go into that next one, you need to have that mindset of, this is the one that's going to work out. I have to do it right instead of like, ah, it's not going to work out. So I'm just going to get like, you get lazy. You do dumb stuff. And I mean, to be 100% honest, like, your mind kind of gravitates toward that. Mine does it still. But I have to, like, you have to trick yourself, because I know for a fact when I go into it, like, man, I just. Like, a string of bad luck's not gonna work out anyways. Or, like, this probably isn't gonna work. And then you go in there with it, probably not gonna work. You do dumb stuff and you make mistakes, and it probably would have worked out if you were giving it that attention you gave maybe that first opportunity when you're like, man, this is it. I got a bull right here. I think I can make this happen. It makes a difference. And then number five, this one, this one I had to throw in there because it's one of my best friends. And, you know, like, we were roommates for a long time through college and. And hunting buddies and everything. Name is Mike Marchese, and we always just call him Marcheseisms. Like, he always has. He always has the right words to say. But one of the. One of his famous hunt quotes right here, we'd just be out there and he's like, no, gotta increase your success by lowering your standards. And that's absolutely true, right? Sometimes you just have a string of bad luck, and you gotta be like, hey, man, I was going out here for whatever, you know, and this is like, you know, you can't. There's always that edge. Like, you can't shoot the big bull if you shoot the little bull, right? But you also can't shoot a bull if you don't shoot a bull. So it depends what you're looking for, right? But it's always. It's always a fun one to be like, there's been hunts where I'm. I'm like, you know, I can think of quite a few hunts where I'm like, man, I've got this expectation in my head, like, what that hunt's gonna look like, and things start not working out. And I'm like, you know what I mean? I know there's like a meal I went on last year and I'm like, there's big bucks in this area. Well, I never saw them. You know, I'm like, but there's some nice bucks and maybe on the last day I can make some, make a play. And not that there are definitely hunts where I'm fine. Like, I don't want it to seem like, oh, I have to. Like, there's hunts, like, even this hunt that I, that I just went on, I was like, I would have been fine not finding a bull that I wanted. Like, I wanted a nice, like a decent six point or no bull. And I ended up getting a decent six point. You know, it was like, that's what I was looking for. I didn't need the biggest bull on them. I didn't go in there being like, I have to shoot a 370 bull. Like that. Just. I just am realistic because, like, it wasn't that area, right? There's tags that I'll have. It's like when I have, you know, my. Probably my next Nevada bull tag, like, I want to best my best bull and I. And I want to hunt the whole season for it. And I'm okay not shooting a bull on that tag. Like, it sounds wild, but I'm like, even, like I, Even though I know, like, hey, I could, you know, whatever. Now if I, if I put in the work and I'm like, the type of bull I'm looking for is never there. It's like, doesn't exist, then I'm going to reassess my standards. But I always like to throw that one in there of like, it was funny because, like, he, he guided for me for a little bit and he would always, you know, it was just one that would always make people laugh. Like, and I was the, you know, he's like, yep, it's good. But, you know, just increase your success by lowering your standards. You know, it was always a fun one to throw around as the bad luck flies. It's. It's true and it makes you laugh. So I had to throw that one in there. But I think that, you know, on plenty of hunts, right things go wrong stuff, you know, it's like, man, they went left, you went right, they ducked, you jumped. Whatever it is, stuff goes wrong. But by being persistent, by varying up your tactics, by just hunting hard and staying positive and then being realistic with the opportunities available, I think that there is that chance to just kind of push bad luck aside and create your own success. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed that podcast and being able to kind of be in season and kind of give you an accurate hunt report. You know, every area is a little bit different. But it seemed like to me, the rut, even with that, like, hot weather, is starting to kick off pretty, pretty good. And I think maybe that early full moon's helping. There was a couple days where I got, you know, we were at kind of an elevation where the weather kind of changed a little bit and it like, it turned to switch on. I've had reports from other friends, like, it's been slow. But then also some guys are just getting into pockets of really good elk rutting action, which is awesome to hear, you know, from, from everywhere, from Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado. Like, I've. I've talked to guys that have, you know, had some opening day successes other places or like, been scouting and heard, you know, some pretty good action. So it's always good to hear that. Like, I think that, you know, some, some years, every year is a little bit different. Some, every state's a little bit different. Some it's kind of very general. It's like, man, that was a slow year everywhere, right? It's kind of funny how it works out like that. But it's good to just, you know, it's fun to be able to share these stories and the hunts and some of the tips and tactics, like as they're live and things are going down. And I like to hear the same from you guys. So if you guys. A ton of awesome, man. I got some photos the other day. Guys like, first bull, you know, 100 couple years, this is my first bull. Been listening to the podcast and those tips really helped and that stuff, man, I really appreciate that. Feel free. If you guys got like, you know, in social media, I'm, you know, I'm in and out, we're all hunting. But, you know, if it's like, if you tag me in it, I try to see it. And especially when I'm traveling between places or, you know, whatever, I've got some time in between, so check that stuff out. But, you know, or leave a comment or a rating on this podcast or on a video or just, you know, send a message on Instagram or tag me in a story or something like that, you know, and if you guys are cool, like, it's, you know, send me a message and you're like, that's cool to share this. I'd like to start sharing some of that stuff because it's fun to. Fun to see it. If not, you know, just for me, sometimes you Know, there's a lot of stuff on there and a lot of stuff. If I don't reply to it, it's not that, you know, it's like some stuff I actually don't even see on there. And I go through like the trash thing and it's like spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam. Big bull picture. Cool. That's awesome. You know, like, so I try to go through there and check it out. But thank you guys so much for that. I will say too, you know, one of the things like on this particular hunt that was so valuable and an awesome supporter of this podcast on X Maps. Like, man, just knowing that, you know, there was a lot of the hunt where I was like on that boundary line and just being very confident of like, this is where I can hunt. This is where I can hunt. And, and it was nice too, knowing, like, okay, well, you know, there's out there, but oh, look, here's this other spot that's nearby that like you can go into this. You can't. It made it like you, you have to have that. I just can't see going into the field without it these days. Like, I'm assuming nobody does, but it's a, it's a small investment to have to have like probably one of the most powerful tools in your pocket. I mean, I use like all the tools a lot. The tool that I use a lot too is like just the. For stock planning, right? I'm sitting on these bulls and I use the measure tool more than probably anyone. I'm like, okay, what if I get to this bush and I'm zoomed in? I'm like the elker at this bush. What if I get to that bush? Oh, that's 60 yards. Okay, that seems doable, right? Like, you know, and that's from across canyon, dude, that's. That other bull is better. I'm like, from where I think he's betted, I think that's 40 yard shot. Yep, that's a 40 yard shot. Sweet. Let's get to that point. Let's get there. That's a, that's a good spot. So like, I mean, it's a great tool. Like it's pretty much one of the most valuable tools you can have in your pocket, you know, outside of your. Whatever you're hunting with. Like, I need like my bow, my binos, boots probably. And then like, you know, to know where I'm at. And then after that you need a pack and a knife, you know, some clothes. Clothes on your back. But I like, it's just a, it's just an integral part of the, you know, like the success. Especially a lot of places too, man. 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