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Foreign I'm Remy Warren and I've lived my life in the wild as a professional guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days perfecting my craft. I want to give that knowledge to you. In this podcast we relive some of my past adventures as I give you practical hunting tips to make you more successful. Whether you're just getting started or a lifelong hunter, this podcast will bring you along on the hunt and teach you how to Live Wild podcast is brought to you by Mountain Tough and Yeti. Now for those that don't know, Mountain Tough is an online based training app that's designed for hunters to train you both mentally and physically for the mountains. So you can go on. And there's programs designed with workouts that are specifically made to get you ready for the things you're going to encounter out there in the wild. And while a lot of you probably know that their programs are designed to get you ready, they also have programs designed to keep you ready during the season. 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Now this week on the podcast we're going to be talking about the legacy of hunting. So we're going to look at the next generation of hunters and what it really means to pass it on. Now, while there's definitely a lot of new hunters out there or those that maybe got into it a little bit later in life, especially listening to this podcast, I think for a lot of us hunting was something that was passed on from someone in our family and many of us have memories of going out as kids, maybe sitting a duck blind or a deer stand, or just hiking through the mountains with our mom, dad, grandparent, or someone else close to us. And when fall rolls around, there's this definitely a nostalgic feeling around a tradition that's really as old as man to hunt and to provide. So this week, we're going to explore that tradition, what it means to pass on the legacy, and what it might look like to introduce hunting to the next generation. But first, I want to share the story of two antelope hunts with my dad. They're 26 years apart, one with myself and my brothers and sister, and the other with five of his grandkids in a tale of two pronghorn. So the story of today's pronghorn hunt is actually two pronghorn hunts separated by a long period of time. So this first hunt took place in August, the end of August in 1998. Myself and my two brothers, both younger, were all about two years apart. So at this point, I was already obsessed with hunting. I was the firstborn. You know, I went out on hunts with my dad. I think at this point, I was hunting, or I know for a fact I'd been on hunts where I was the hunter. But my other brothers weren't old enough yet. They'd been on hunts with my dad, and we'd been on hunts together as a family, but, you know, within the same family. You know, my two brothers, at the time, when we were younger, I was just, like, infatuated with hunting. I loved every aspect of it, and my brothers would go hunting, but they didn't have probably at the time, the same passion that I did for it. And in some ways, this antelope hunt, I think, like, you know, different personalities in some way. But, you know, obviously, like, as time goes on, things change. Like, you know, my brother's now both really into hunting. One of my brothers, Jason, I would say, is about as obsessed with it as I am. And then my brother Ryan really enjoys it, and we all go out together as a family still. They still hunt, you know, with, with, and without me. But I think this hunt was kind of interesting because it was in some ways, it's just a good story. And I don't think anybody, you know, when you look back at the hunt, my dad and I, we were talking about it on our recent hunt this year and laughing about kind of the way that it went down and some of the things. So it's fun to look back and see. But this. This hunt back in 1998. My dad had drawn a pronghorn tag in the state of Nevada, which. So back then, and even it's similar to this today, it maybe took five to 10 years to draw the tag. And I think then I can't remember the length of the waiting period. It was once you shot 1 probably 5 to 10 years before you could apply. I can't remember exactly, but it was at least five years, maybe even more. Most species were 10. So it just kind of shows you. You know, you'd get that tag and then the rarity and the kind of the importance you put on that tag. My dad had drawn. I guess this was probably like he had drawn a pronghorn tag prior to this, before I was even born. And as far as I recollect, this might have been his first pronghorn tag since that other tag. And on. On his first, I guess it would have been his first pronghorn tag. I think him and my mom were, like, dating at the time or recently married, something like that, and they went out. My dad knew nothing about hunting pronghorn, and some guy gave him some spots, and he ended up shooting a buck. Like, kind of a funny story. A lot of mishaps along the way. But he shot a buck that was like an absolute giant antelope. I think it scored like 86 inches, maybe netted like 84, something like that. I can't remember the exact score, but it was always up on our wall, mounted. And just like growing up, that was the representation of a pronghorn, because it was the only one that I'd ever seen, right? And it was just an absolute giant. Just if, you know, scores of antelope. That's big. It was like Boone and croc at all time. I think he got like a, like, state record belt buck. It wasn't the state record, but he definitely got, like, a belt buckle for shooting the, like, biggest pronghorn of the year. And I think after the drying period, whatever is still, you know, net boon and croc at all time. Like a really big antelope. But, you know, between hunts, right? And tags and waiting so long, one of the things that kind of is ingrained in some ways, and where I grew up hunting in Nevada, like, the hunting culture is you don't get tags all the time, but when you do, there's potential for really good animals. And you kind of. I'm just putting air quotes on the word trophy hunt, which means, like, you look for the best animal you can find, like the biggest one you can get. The Most mature, the, you know, maybe biggest score wise, what have you. Like, oftentimes that was kind of like growing up a big part of it, because you just didn't. You didn't get tags all the time. So one, it was probably just a way of stretching it out. And two, you know, the opportunity was there. So my dad had an antelope tag, and we decided to go out as a family. So my mom was with us, my two brothers, my dad. My dad had the tag, and we actually have, like a motorhome at the time. So that was the plan, was like, take the family motorhome out on out into the desert and do our hunt. And they have like a little Suzuki Samurai kind of thing that tow around. And we just all hunt from that, all cram in the back. I don't know how all five of us fit in that thing. Those things are small. But that was our hunt strategy, hunt plan. And, you know, so they drive out. This area was like northern Washoe area. So, like, the dust on these roads just gets into everything, you know, I think we, like, destroyed the family motorhome on this trip. It was never the same after that. I think my mom was like, no more. I think they ended up selling the thing because it was just too hard to clean. Just kind of like destroyed it. But their plan was, like, to kind of keep it comfortable and have a place to base out of. Is like pretty hot August, Nevada. I don't know, probably like 100 degrees in the sun in the daytime, super hot areas. But we went out, we got out into the area. I remember, you know, I mean, this is like 26 years ago, but it was kind of a core memory, a fun hunt for me and my brothers. And I remember going out the first day we were kind of traveling out and spotting, like, a good antelope buck over in this one particular spot. The plan was to kind of go back to where my dad had got his big buck and look around there. And we all had high hopes. You know, I'd heard stories of that one fabled antelope hunt where he shot the giant. And so we kind of went into those same areas, saw a good buck. I think we stalked a buck to kind of together as a crew. Didn't get very close, and then kind of hunted around. And we saw a lot of antelope, but we were looking for, you know, another big one per se. So we were going to different areas, glassing, looking, doing a lot of, like, traveling around in the vehicle, road hunting. We would hike in, in the mornings to springs and then see what was coming in. I think that's how my dad killed that big one. He was like. Him and my mom were like, in this. Sitting on the spring in the dark, waiting for it to get light. Light came up, antelope comes in and they shoot a big one, right? It was like pure happenstance for the most part. But we were, you know, using similar strategies. And then in the day, driving around, checking new spots, whatever. One of the days we saw a. So we're. We were like, looking and there's this, like, mountain out there. And sure enough, we spot this antelope. And it's. It's a monster. Like, it's a giant antelope. We called him. We named him Freaky because his. His horns kind of, instead of going straight up, came down along his face sort of like went forward and then up and man, it just looked far beyond anything we'd seen. So we're going to make a big plan. And my dad wanted everyone there with us. And so we make a big stock. There's not like it's a big desert and it's like this actually is up on this little mountain. It's like this mountain that just came out of the flats and it was up on the top. I think it had some doughs with it. So I don't remember. I guess we probably started hunting opening day, and I don't remember how many days in we are at this point. You know, it's hot. It's like, you know, we did a lot of little walks and walks here and there, and it was tiring. I think my brothers were getting a little. It was just like, you know, being out in antelope country in the desert and the heat and whatever, it's fairly uncomfortable, especially for little kids. So we see this big one, we go after it. You know, I think at the time, like my dad, it was kind of like just kind of in some ways just winged it for whatever, right? Like, so. Well, we'll get. We'll get to this point because we were talking. I was talking about this with him, but. So we find the big antelope, we stock in on the big antelope, and it's a long ways. We're like, you know, at this point, it's like midday, it's hot. It. You know, everybody's like, my dad's carrying the water. He's got like, you know, probably a fanny pack with two canteens. You know, we're all dehydrated, we're all hot. We're going through the desert and we, we sneak up on this antelope. We pop over, we make a good stock. It's time for him to shoot. He lines up. Boom. Miss. The animal antelope, like, runs out, stops. Boom. Miss. And he's just like. I mean, he's missing all over. Like, not even close. And so they go over the hill. Like, we chase the antelope. I can't remember, maybe. Let's just say, like, he maybe got another shot. As we get to the top, they push off again. We just keep going after the antelope until they disappear. We're a long ways from the truck, and it ends up being a very long day. My brothers are, like, very tired. I'm tired. Everybody's tired. It's hot. It was just tough, man. Like, nothing about that day was fun, you know, in a way, like, as kids, you're just like, okay, we want, you know, we went out, we went like. And the kind of the hunt became very serious and obviously, like, serious. But, you know, you know, my dad's like, I don't know what's going on. So he goes. And so we go back, we shoot his gun. His gun's not on. I don't think he, like, checked and verified it before we went out. Like, probably the last time he shot it was the last time he went hunting. You know, there's a lot of things that he did wrong. We were laughing about this. Like, I remember I used to just go out and like, typical, you know, like, I mean, there's a lot of people that do that and just like, yeah, you know, it was like, all right, he's taking the kids along. We're trying to be successful. Yet never verified his rifle. It's off. So we recited the rifle. I think we went back to look for that antelope. Now we've got that buck. You know, what we called freaky in our minds? Like, okay, this is a big antelope. So now we're hunting for that antelope. I can't remember if we found him again or not. Doesn't really matter. You know, Hunt kind of started to get long. Everybody just kind of got. Was pretty tired out, you know, I think it got to a point where it was just like, all right. Like, I think my brothers are pretty over it. I think they're kind of like my brother Jason really liked at the time. He was like, he needed some fast paced stuff. Like, hunting was a little slow paced. He was more into like snowboarding and fast action sports. And you Know, this hunted kind of drug on. It was physically demanding. It was hot. It was just uncomfortable. And then. So I think my dad was just finally, finally kind of realized, like, all right, you know, I messed up, I think at the beginning, whatever, but also like, I've got my kids here. It's getting to the. It's. We gotta, we gotta find some success, what have you. So ended up driving down the road and going up this one draw. And it kind of like the antelope started to get few and far between, I think. I don't remember how much time was in here. You know, looking back, it seemed like we're there a long time. Who knows? Probably, you know, at least something of like the four or five week time frame. Not really sure. So we're going up this road and some antelope kind of like run in front of the truck and stop or the Suzuki and stop. And these are definitely like, not anything. Like we've passed up many antelope bucks bigger than this. But I think my dad kind of realized like, all right, this is a good opportunity. I've got the kids with me. Hops out, crawls up to get a, get a shot. And he's laying down at this point, he's got his like, you know, whatever gun on a backpack or fanny pack or whatever he had. And we're all there watching. Shoots the antelope and we've got an antelope down. You know, the morale kind of changed. It was exciting. We were all pretty excited. You know, we kind of all joked around about, oh, too bad you didn't do that, you know, the first time and gave him a hard time. And, you know, honestly, like, I think, you know, it was definitely the right call because, you know, the hunt started to kind of be more focused on like, let's find that big buck and all these other things. And everyone started to get wore down. And then he found some success. And, you know, he ended up mounting that antelope because it meant a lot to him that all of his kids were there. I think that was like the first hunt that I can think of. No, I actually, he'd shot a sheep with all of us actually, prior before that. But I guess the first antelope hunt where all of us were there, I guess my mom wasn't on the sheep hunt, so, you know, it was like a family trip, family hunt. He mounted that antelope, still has it hanging next to his. His giant antelope too. And you know, I think for him it probably, you know, I think well, he realized, you know, like, hey, this. There's more maybe to this hunt than finding the big antelope or what have you. It was just having all of us there and having an awesome hunt and whatever, you know, I think, like, that hunt was one where it probably got drug on too long, and I could probably be guilty of doing something similar, you know, where you just get focused and you're out there. And we were a little bit older. You know, we weren't real young, but we were still, you know, my brother was still pretty young. And, you know, I. I loved it. I loved every part of it, but it was still one of those hunts where, like, okay, it got it kind of drug on, you know, to be honest. But, you know, we were successful and. And we had a. We had a good time, you know, there's some awesome memories in there now, I guess. Fast forward to this past year. My dad had another Nevada antelope tag. I think he's probably had. I would imagine he's had some others since then, but he had a Nevada antelope tag. And one of the things that he wanted to do, he's like, man, I just kind of want to make it about the grandkids and have as many grandkids out there as I can. And so my wife and I were like, okay, we're in. And my brothers could go, but not till the weekend. So the season opened midweek. I guess it, like, opened on a Friday or Thursday, I can't remember. I mean, then they could come out, whatever, like, maybe Friday night, and hunt Saturday or somewhere, something like that. I guess I should remember it was only a month ago. But so. So we go out. We get out there a night early, I guess, like Thursday night, I think it was. And so we get out there, we decide, like, we're gonna camp. My. My dad actually had brought, like, a trailer and a motor home and whatever, and so we're out there. We're gonna stay the night. I had some friends, too, that drew a tag. So they're out there with their kids, and then we're gonna hunt with my dad. They're gonna hunt another spot. We can kind of communicate, see what we're seeing different places. And so we go out with my dad. You know, my kids have been fortunate that they kind of thrust into the hunting life and hunting lifestyle. And I've tried to be very careful and cognizant of how we do it, because one of the things that I didn't want to do is, in some ways, sour the hunting Experience, not nothing against my dad. You know, my dad did a great job getting us into hunting. But I think that that antelope trip for my brothers was kind of like they were into it. And I think that after that antelope trip, they kind of were like, I think I more into other things. Me, I was already hooked. It didn't really matter. Like, I understood the struggle of it and getting something, not getting something missing, you know, spending more time, whatever. Like, for me it didn't matter. I think for my brothers, not that they didn't end up hunting, but they just weren't as into it until later in life, which is fine. But I think that that trip in some ways kind of played a part in that, you know, on this trip. So my wife and I and the kids were out antelope hunting. We go out the next day and the plan is like, we're going to go check a spot where I took my brother last year and see if we can find, you know, a buck that we saw last year or just kind of had an idea of where I wanted to go. So we get there, we pull off like the road to go into where we're going to go. And sure enough, there's like a pretty good buck right there. I mean, it's like legal shooting, like it just turned legal shooting like three minutes ago or probably three to five minutes ago. And we have a buck right here. And I'm like, it's just almost too soon. Like, it would have been great. But I also, in the back of my mind, I'm like, we kind of got to burn this day and look around because I think it'd be cool if my brothers and their kids were here too. And the fun thing about pronghorn hunting is generally an all day ordeal. You can go as hard or as easy as you want and still potentially find success. So perfect hunt for the kids. So I'm like, I'm kind of encouraging. I'm like, ah, let's just, you know, wait and see what they do. Like, also you can't. Like, I don't think there's anywhere you can crawl up and get a shot. Like just see what they do and they end up just running off. So we keep looking for those pronghorn, don't find them. So we go around to glass and end up seeing a buck moving into this water. So we drive back around, park like a little, you know, stop, and we're gonna plan on hiking in. So we got the kids and my wife and we all hike in it's like probably a mile and a half in. So I got a little two year old and a four year old and they did great, man. They just hiked the whole way and. And then we kind of split off and they started to work their way back to the truck. Cause we didn't see the pronghorn. We just looped. My dad and I looped a different way and then met back up with them. They did a big hike and then, and after that big hike, then it was just nap time, right? So we kind of drove around, checked a few new spots and saw quite a few antelope. But our thought was kind of like, okay, today let's just look for a good one. My kids are having a great time, did a lot of napping, did a lot of snacking, watched a few shows on their tablets. It just got too hot to hike after that. Like it was a hundred and some odd degrees. It was too hot for me to hike. I think it was too hot for them to hike. And they did a big hike that morning or fairly big hikes that morning. So kind of just drove around, checked a few spots, met up with our buddies, see what they saw. They were looking for a particular buck that they'd scouted out and they're all, their kids are older and everything and so they were looking for a particular buck that they didn't see. We found a few other, you know, pronghorn, had a couple opportunities, but kind of just like, man, I don't know, I think we can, let's just keep looking, you know, we had time and knew that my brothers were coming out, so we were kind of just holding off. But also, if a really good one stepped out, hey, we weren't gonna, we weren't gonna be too picky. So anyways, that night back at camp, we all meet back up. The kids, all their cousins showed up, my brother showed up, you know, enjoyed some dinner together, hung out with our friends and man, the kids played. And they were just looking forward to that the whole day, getting to meet up with everyone and oh yeah, we're gonna go back to camp at dark. And it was a long day, but they had a good time. And then the next morning, up again super early again, got the kids loaded up. And now the plan was like, all right, well how do we get. We've got three trucks. And then my buddy Mike and his wife and kids were there. And so they decide my buddy John and his family were going to go get into a position, maybe catch the buck that they were, because I think we. They might have seen. They thought they might have seen the buck they scouted out that night. So the morning plan for them was going to go get into position, and maybe he'll. He'll, like, come off the mountain and they'll catch him traveling in the morning. So they got into a position real early, and so we got the kids ready, everybody loaded up, and we're like, all right, we're rolling four trucks deep. We're going to just. I don't know how we're going to do this, but my dad was like, it'd be fun, you know, if we got an antelope with all the kids. And so we planned. We're like, well, let's go to a spot. We're just gonna go to a spot, set up, sit and watch, and then maybe everyone can hold back and we can get the spotting scopes going. I've got, like, you know, I had all the, you know, mag view and scopes. That's what I like to do with the kids, where I've got. It's like a little TV screen. Cause you pop the. The phone on the spotting scope, and then they can watch what's going on through the spotter, but don't have to try to put their eyes and fight over it. Everyone can kind of go around. You get a few scopes going with the phones going, and they can sit back a ways and watch. And then, you know, me and my dad or whatever could go on the stalk. So that was kind of going to be the plan. And I think the other thing on this is, like, maybe what my dad had learned from that hunt 26 years earlier is, like, at this point, he's not hunting for him. He's hunting with the grandkids. And so just to have everyone there was part of it. We're gonna make it fun. And let's just say the type of buck that he was looking for was a buck that would stand still in a position that he can make a move on. So we're driving out there, and we hit, you know, where we're gonna go in, and we're going down a road a little ways, and a buck comes out and is, like, pushing, like, really focused on this doe. And we aren't even to our spot yet. And it's like, okay, here's our opportunity. Essentially, we all pull off. My dad gets out, gets off the roadways, and, like, gets into position. The buck's, like, following this doe. We make a call. Actually, my buddy's wife, Christy, calls and stops It. Cause it's gonna. I think the doe had crossed, and he's about to cross turns broadside. My dad makes a shot, and all the grandkids were there. They got to, you know, see the whole hunt go down, which was, like, pretty awesome. And, you know, morale's high. Everybody's thinking, this is the coolest thing ever. Papa did a great job. They call him Papa. So we, you know, we take some pictures, take care of the pronghorn. You know, the kids all got to be a part of. Like, we'd have helpers come in and, okay, hold this while we're cutting it up, and, okay, open the cooler for us and be a part of it. And, man, it was just such a fun experience. And I think, you know, for all the grandkids, like, just to be there together to have fun, they got to be a part of the success. My daughter was super excited to have antelope dinner, and it was just a really cool hunt. And I think one that, you know, they're pretty young, but also old enough to. That it'll be a core memory. They talk about it a lot. Just remember when papa got his antelope and we all went out hunting and all the little aspects of it that made it enjoyable and something that was fun for them to be a part of. So I know that, you know, at least once a year, I try to talk about kind of bringing, like, especially kids or, you know, maybe for me, the stage of life that I'm in, I have younger kids. So where everybody's at different stages of life. Some people listen to this podcast, have no kids. Some people have older kids. Some people are just starting to get hunting and don't have kids, whatever, right? Everybody's in a little bit different stage. But I think whether you have kids or not, I think it's important to understand the passing it on aspect. Before I ever had kids, I took a lot of kids out hunting. There would be kids, friends, kids, you know, whatever, maybe like, even through guiding some kids and other things. And it was always. Because I remember growing up and people taking me hunting, even people that weren't my dad, like my grandpa or a friend of my dad's, like, oh, we're going out, or a friend hunting with friends and their family. And it was a big part of kind of my hunting journey and also being able to get out and enjoy hunting. And at the time, like, when I was growing up, you'd hear that older generation always say, oh, yeah, there's so much out there that's competing for kids, attention and so many things. And like, oh, if we don't pass it on, then the tradition of hunting, you know, stops with us. And that was a really big push when I was younger is like getting kids out hunting. And I would say today that is even more so. There's so many things that vie for our attention. And in this age where everything becomes so digital, everything's instantaneous, everything's this, that and the other thing, easy and what have you. Even more so than when I was a kid. And like in some ways too, like the culture that we live in now, so much is frowned upon by self sufficiency and reliance on yourself. Like doing things the hard way. Everyone wants the easy way. Everyone wants, you know, no struggle for their kids and what have you. And like, as a new parent, right, you want the best for your kids, but you also want them to. This is my philosophy. Like, I want them to be, you know, I don't know, like the best way to put it. Like, I think my job is to raise them to be self sufficient adults, right? I give my kids everything that I can. And you always want them to have more than you even had growing up. But you also want them to have activities and things where they have to struggle, they have to learn, they have to grow, they have to have to do things, even a young age on their own to kind of just understand the way things work. And so, you know, for me, I think it was like important to, to start to bring my kids in hunting at an early age because it's partially, you know, it's like the way that we live and it's our lifestyle and it's what we do. So, you know, it was kind of like inevitable. But also I wanted to do it in a way where they, they would kind of enjoy the experience and, and not really like be like, oh, I hate that. Because I could see there are, you know, definitely, you know, ways that people and kids and whatever can be burned out on it. And so one of the things I want to talk about this week is just some of the things getting and bringing and passing it on to that next generation. This can also apply to new hunters as well. One of the things that I thought was there's just like this, you know, when you think about hunting and the tradition of, is a legacy that's passed on and has been passed on since the beginning of man. For the most part, you know, one generation would teach the next generation in a more survival sense. This is how we hunt. This is how you gather food and then that tradition's moved on from, okay, maybe we don't need it to survive, but the tradition and the things of hunting, it's best passed on. Of course, there's podcasts like this where you can learn tips and tactics and other things and people that get into it later in life. But I think that the thing that I think is really cool is the idea that we do pass it on to our kids or that next generation, because there are so many things that vie for it. And I love hunting so much and what it's about and the lifestyle that it provides. And I think that it should be passed on and not go to the wayside as technology increases and things become faster pace and all this stuff. I think it's something that keeps us centered in our own humanity, to be honest. Like, I think it's a very important part of human history and human culture. And I don't think everybody should hunt, but I think that we always should have hunters on the landscape, not only for the conservation aspect, but just to stay in touch with reality of what the, how the world works and what food is and what food means to us. But that's just a whole nother another thing, you know, one of the, one of the coolest little, just a little side story. But you know, it's awesome when I'm somewhere and someone comes up like, hey, I really enjoy the podcast or what have you. And a lot of times I get to hear some good stories or success things for me that like, I really enjoy that. And this summer I was, I was flying back from somewhere. I was flying back to my home in Reno and there was like a storm and the plane couldn't land, so it got diverted to Sacramento. It was like the last flight of the day and I didn't know if I was going to be able to get back. And I think I had something the next day that I really wanted to be at, like family thing going on. So I decided, I was like, you know what? Instead of waiting here and seeing if the flight's going to. It's only a few hour drive. I'm just going to rent a car and drive home. It was already like 10pm so I'm like, all right, I'll just drive home. Be like midnight one in the morning when I get home, but whatever. So I go and rent a car and get a rental vehicle, like pretty much the last one, and get to the car ready to drive. And then family is right next to me and they got pretty young kids. I don't Know, like, maybe one's, like, stroller kind of action, and maybe another. I can't remember if it's one or two kids, but anyways, so, you know, like, having a young family, I know sometimes, like, in parking lots, it's a stressful situation with bags and everything. So I'm always, like, you know, careful about whatever and want to make sure a is, you know, like, backing up and all that stuff. You just kind of, you know, I'm always super cautious about that anyways. But having kids, too, you're even double overtime. So I roll down my window, and I just wanted to make sure, like, hey, just want to make sure the kid's in the car. I'm good to back up. And the guy's like, he's in the car kind of facing me. He's like, yeah, thanks. And he, like, recognized my voice. And he's like, turns around like, wait, are you Remy or. And I'm like, yeah. He's like, dude, I listen to your podcast all the time. He's like, I've listen, you know, a lot. I'm like, oh, that's awesome. You know, like, appreciate it. And most of the time, it's from people that hunt a lot, right? And. And he's like, you know, to be honest, he's like, I listened to the podcast. He's like, I have yet to go on my first hunt. And I'm like, really? Really? You know? And he's like, yeah. He's like, I want to get into it. I'm excited to go on my first hunt. I'm just kind of gaining the knowledge and the other things. And he said something that, like, really I thought was one of the coolest things. He's like, I really. He's like, I want to do it for me. But also, like, I wanted to get into it, so it's something that I could pass on to my kids. It was, like, a skill that I think is really awesome that I don't have yet, but I didn't have the opportunity as a kid and want to be able to pass it on to my kids. And I've heard that actually from multiple people who sent me messages, you know, in that regard. But to actually, like, meet someone and then, like, connect to the dots and then, you know, that be, like, a motivating factor for them. I'm like, there is something about that, passing it on to the next generation of keeping that tradition alive and the desire to give your kids or those in that next generation an incredible skill set that I think is Vitally important to the health of our society in a way, especially the way things are going now. You look around, you're like, wow, it's wild out there, in my opinion. But this is something that's just grounded in such tradition. So it was just a really cool, really cool thing to hear someone say. Just a funny random coincidence of way of meeting this person. And, you know, it got me just thinking. I thought, like, that was just such a cool encounter with somebody that listens to this podcast and thinking about it in the terms of legacy. And so I think one of the things that I wanted to do this week is just kind of talk about and some of these things I've talked about before comes to getting people into hunting and in that next generation. But I think the first thing is, you know, pick a hunt that, like, let's say you've got kids. I don't. It doesn't matter if they're maybe like, they're older, 13, 14, 50, whatever. Maybe they're even older than that. Maybe they're young, like, like my kids 4 and essentially 4 and 2. Pick a hunt that's based on like a good, easy hunt. When I think about taking my kids hunting, you know, let's say it's big game hunting, Pronghorn hunting is a great one where it's like, you can, you can drive around, you can see animals, you can have a good time. When I'm on, when we go, I'm putting air quotes out. Elk hunting. Like, we actually just went elk hunting the other day or last year. I did a hunt with them. I took my trad bow just because I was like, I always try to do one or a couple hunts a year with my traditional archery equipment, but it was like, for doe mule deer, it was like, we're going to see a lot of them. It's going to be, you know, probably a successful hunt or we'll get stocks or whatever. No pressure, right? We went hunting elk hunting the other day. And really what that meant was we were just driving around in the Kawasaki side by side, just, you know, like, they got to. We went and picked berries, we glassed for elk, we made some calls. I mean, let's just say we were hunting and if something happened, it would have been like, cool, we're going after it. But the goal was to get the kids out in that hunting environment. And we do that a lot with our kids. And I understand, like, time's limited, but, you know, for a lot of people, you might get however much time to hunt, but we Try to make quite a few opportunities to take the kids out where it's more just really going through the motions of hunting more than anything with the little kids. Yeah, we found success and we've had some incredible experiences along the way. But the idea is picking the hunt that's geared toward them. Another really good one is like bird hunting, small game hunting, duck hunting. Something where it's like they can be active, they can make noise, they can do whatever you can, you know, you can check out trails and get out and hike around. And sometimes you find success. Like we were elk hunting slash, grouse hunting slash, you know, whatever we got pocket full of tags. Whatever we're hunting, we're hunting. We're just out hunting, you know, and that is like, I think kind of the first step is. I know, like when I was growing up, a lot of the older generation, it was like you took the kids hunting, but it was geared toward. It was like, in some ways, I mean, I really loved it. But even as a young kid, I think like a lot of the hunts that I went on were a test, like a torture test in a way. Like they were grueling, especially for our age and whatever, and I just loved it. Right. But not everybody has that kind of, I don't know, penchant for punishment or what have you, you know, so pick a hunt that's kind of geared toward the specifics of what they might be into. I think the second thing is just keep it fun, you know, do all the things. I think one thing that I even remember as a kid that, you know, I think, like, not everybody and I've seen it, you know, it's like, keep it fun and also keep what you see exciting. We, you know, like my little, my son spotted like a mule deer doe, right? We don't have a mule deer tag. We don't have a doe tag, whatever. It's not what we're looking for, but we made a big deal out of that doe. We stopped, we got the binoculars on him, you know, we looked at it because to him this is just as exciting as if he saw a 400 inch bull elk. He doesn't know the difference. He's out hunting, he sees some animals, we talk about it. Oh yeah, I don't have a tag for those ones, but those are really cool. Good spot, buddy. And then, you know, we all look at them and watch him walk and talk about them and how would I stock those? And we, you know, we make a big deal out of it because sometimes I see me goes like, they're driving down. It's like, oh, dope. Yeah. Well, we aren't hunting those. We're looking for elk. It's like, no, no. Make a big deal out of all the small things, because it doesn't really matter. Right. Like them spotting that compared to them spotting whatever else you might have a tag for. Whatever, you know, keep it fun. We went for a hike. We went up. We hiked along the river. We looked at fish. We picked and ate rat, wild raspberries. We made some elk calls. We came back, we had a picnic, and they had just an absolute blast. Drove around in the machine. We call it the machine. And we just had an absolute blast, you know. And was it like the kind of hunt that I go on when I'm by myself? Absolutely not. Was it a really fun hunt for the kids? And when they think about hunting, they're like, I love hunting. This is something I really like to do. Absolutely. You know, the thing is, just think about what's the intention? Because when you're talking about passing it on, there's time and everybody's different. Right. So I'm kind of talking from my experience of little kids, I think, too, is, like, at some point, you know, and even at the young age that I take my kids out at, what I'm doing is I'm teaching them the skills and the things that we learn, the things that we think about when we're walking through the mountains. We keep the wind right. We're going to sit here in glass. We're going to make a call. We're going to get up early, but we're getting up early because animals move at these kind of times. Okay, yeah, we're going to go down this trail, you know, like, teaching them and thinking about the things and the motions that I'm going through. I feel like by the time my daughter's old enough to hunt on her own, she'll know more than most adults that have hunted their whole life. Because I'm taking the time to teach her what I know as we're doing it in a fun way, letting them pick and decide which we get to a fork in the road, should we go left or should we go right? Okay, what do you think? And they'll analyze it, and they'll think about it. Okay. And we should go up this trail, and we should stay in the shade, and we should. Glass and we should. And just kind of like going through the motions and teaching, like, the reason why we do things. Another thing that I mention a lot with the Kids is bringing lots of snacks, making it fun, but also having things that are special on the hunt where it's like they look forward to it because of not just the hunting, but because of the other things along the way. I think one of the key things about passing on the legacy is that the kids in the next generation understand why we do what we do. I think that there's an effort and reward to hunting. For my daughter, the effort in the hunting is the reward in the meal. She loves to eat wild game. I let her be a part of the cooking process, picking dinner and all that stuff. And so on a hunt, when we're successful, the thing that she's looking forward to most is the meal that we get to have afterwards. And that, to me, is so awesome. But it also, you know, helps build that. That legacy of why are we out here doing this? I think the why pass it on portion is extremely important for me. The why pass it on is part of it is passing on. Not just a. I mean, like, you could. In the broadest form, right? It could be like passing on hunting because it's something that humans have done for thousands of years. And if the tradition dies, because it could easily die with us or our generation, then it's gone forever, which I would hate to see. But even in a more personal note, like, the family history of it, for me, you know, my family's hunted since forever. You know, it's like my grandpa learned it from his grandpa, who learned it from his grandpa, who tried, you know, like. Like grew up. It was like that was a way of life, subsistence hunting. They needed to hunt to survive. And then, you know, you've got like that. That tradition of it or what have you. So I think that, you know, the importance of it, to pass it on is also to keep kind of what we believe as hunters alive for generations to come. And I think that, like I said earlier, if we lose hunting, we lose a part of human history that we are no longer able to get in touch with. For me, hunting's like a focal point and a main focus of my life, really. But it's also provided a life where I've got to experience some wild things and some wild places. Things that people that don't hunt and don't understand never will experience true survival situations. You know, self reliance, the ability to provide for myself and my family, which, you know, I think is just an incredible experience. And to be able to do that, I hope that future generations, no matter how crazy technology gets, no matter where we get with Flying cars and teleporting ourselves to other planets. It's like as long as we can reconnect with what makes us human and the way that we've, you know, the technology blip is so small in the speck of human existence, it's like not even, it's not even a speck on the radar yet. It feels so like it's because it's what's ingrained to us right now. But you know, to tap into what is in our DNA to what our forefathers and our ancestors needed to survive for way longer than any of this other stuff's been around, I think there's something very important to that. And so to continue that on, I think that if we lose that, then we lose a part of what makes us that deep seated part in our DNA. And I think that it's important to pass it on because that next generation, they're going to be the ones that are pushing conservation. They're going to be the ones that are promoting wild places, that they care about what happens to the landscape and the animals on it because they're an integral part of it. If you're just a bystander, if you don't become a part of the process, you don't value it the same way. And I see it, you know, there's all kinds of land users, but hunters are the ones that put the most into it because they get the most out of it, to be honest. And so I think it's very important to pass that message and that tradition on with the next generation. Especially because there's so many things that, you know, vie for attention, even more so than when I was growing up. And I think that, you know, by, you know, tapping into these traditions and teaching it to our kids or, you know, the group that's going to come up and support it behind us is extremely important. For those of you that don't know, I'm actually the proud owner of Day Six Arrow Company. Now the reason that I took over Day Six Arrows is there's a lot of them, but one, it's a product that I've used for a long time, truly believe that is the best Arrow and Broadheads on the market. And for that reason I think that I just wanted to dive into the company and continue to promote and as well as build some of the best products out there. So I figured I'd give you guys a quick one minute rundown of our Day Six Arrows, what they are and why they're different. So the thing about Day Six Arrows is they're extremely high quality. One of the things you're going to notice with these arrows is they don't have a particular spine. So some arrows you get and they flex different depending on how they're positioned on the string. These arrows flex the same however you have them on the string. Now, we have two different varieties, the hd, which are like flagship arrows, and these are our four millimeter arrows. Now, the selling point to me about our HD arrows is they have really high grains per inch for a solid carbon arrow. So if you're looking for an extremely heavy duty arrow, this is an arrow that's designed for penetration. It's really well balanced with most setups, but it's heavier than a lot of the other arrows on the market. It's also way more durable than probably any other arrow you've shot. These things are extremely durable. Now, another thing about the Day six arrows is our components. So we have this insert outsert and they are machined by us to fit specifically the arrow that you're shooting the tightest tolerances of any components. So everything is meticulously put together. Then if you're having us build your arrows, they're all hand built by people that put 100% care into them. You're not getting by an arrow that's put together or has more attention to detail than these Day six arrows. These are the highest quality arrows in my opinion out there and they're extremely effective when it comes to consistency, durability and accuracy. Now another one of our arrows is the XD. So the XDS actually are 5 millimeter. And what you're getting with that is you can get a little bit lighter grains print for guys that want maybe less drop. We call it XD for extended duty. So you're able to get, you know, less drop at range, yet still have a good balanced weight for hunting setups. These arrows are designed for hunting and with the hunter in mind. So we put a lot of things first, which includes accuracy, durability and penetration. And you're getting that with these arrows. Now, on the broadhead side, our Evo broadhead is what I use. The Evo is a fixed blade broadhead. So it's got two blades and then two bleeder blades. The design of this broadhead, a couple of like selling features of this broadhead. First of all, it's stainless, so you aren't going to get it. It's not going to get rust in the quiver, which a lot of broadheads are not stainless. And you notice you start to get Rust on the edge of the blades and pretty much everywhere you hunt, where it's a little bit wet, which causes the blade to be not as sharp. Now, stainless is awesome because it's extremely durable. It's harder, it stays sharper longer, which is nice. When it comes to broadhead, you want a broadhead that's going to be able to cut through that hide and then continue through and cut through all the vital organs and hopefully go out the other side, making two holes. Our broadheads are designed for penetration. You can see by the blade angle everything about this is not an afterthought. One of the things you notice with a lot of broadheads out there, especially fixed like two blade broadheads, is that the bleeders are just this afterthought. They almost come off at, I wouldn't say 90 degrees, but pretty steep angle. And what that does is it hampers the penetration. So our broadhead bleeder blades are integrated into the broadhead with those angles designed for penetration. And another thing you're gonna notice on the day six Evos is every side is sharp, so the back of it sharp, the back of the bleeders is sharp. Every single side of this broadhead has been sharpened, which aids in, let's say it doesn't penetrate all the way through. It starts to pull back or is. Is lodged in, in whatever way. Every surface of this broadhead is a cutting surface. Honestly, you know, I've got them like out of a tuned bow. I get these broadheads to fly nearly identical to my field points. I've had extremely good luck with penetration, with accuracy, and with durability out of these broadheads. And it's the reason that they're my number one choice when it comes to a hunting broadhead. So that's a little bit of a rundown of my day six arrows. Check it out. You can go to day six gear.com and get more information. And if you got questions or whatever, feel free to reach out to us. We can help you get the right setup for you for your bow and for whatever hunts you have coming up. I hope you guys enjoyed that podcast. It's fun for me to take a little bit of time out of all the tips and tactics to talk about the things that are important as hunters, like conservation, passing on what we know and what we love. Because I think it's. And even just having done it, you know, there's not a ton of information out there about, well, how, what does it mean to pass it on? You always hear pass it on, and it's like, well, how do you do that? So I hope that this is beneficial in some way. And for those of you that's like, hey, I don't have kids or anything like that, still think about it in terms of, you know, maybe potential opportunities to take someone out and just share what you love. Maybe it's someone in your family, maybe it's a friend, what have you, you know, there's plenty of opportunities to pass on it and gain support. And it doesn't always need to be, you know, somebody that becomes a hunter, but just understanding the process. My wife's mountain goat tag this year, we're going to be bringing her sister with us. And it's like, I'm really excited about that because it's cool that she's going to understand, like, okay, when we go on these hunts, what does it entail? What does it mean to go on a backcountry hunt? Because I think people that have never done it until you've been on that hunt, you really do not understand what goes into a successful hunt like this. Which it's cool to be able to share that with people. So I'm really excited about that. One of the things that I think is cool and just happens to be really good timing, an awesome supporter of this podcast and an incredible company that puts so much back into the hunting space, Vortex Optics. I. They've got, you know, a lot of their new clothing and their, you know, like, their vortex wear has been coming out, like their new stuff for fall and winter. But one of the things that I noticed that they have that I was really excited about just came out this, this Tuesday was the new Youth Blaze combo kit, which has youth size blaze orange hat, Youth size orange vest. You know, the thing is, like, we're always like, yeah, pass it on. Bring your kids hunting. And yet there's nothing that fits them right because it's such a small, I guess a small group of whatever. And so it's like, I remember wearing, getting all my hunting stuff from like, the army surplus store that was, you know, smalls. And you just roll it up or cut it off and it just never fit. So it's awesome. I got, I got some blaze orange stuff for my kids. I already ordered some for my kids for this fall. So that's pretty cool. If you, if you got kids in whatever, go check that out because it's one of the things like, yeah, you got to have the orange vest. And if they're bringing, if you're bringing them along hunting as well, be nice to have something that fits in isn't like, from their shoulders down to the floor and hats that actually, like, fit and they can wear. So that's awesome. Check that out. And then I also noticed. So they've got this new hunter campaign kind of thing where, you know, in time for deer season, if you've never hunted before, on their website, they've just got, like, you know, some proven tactics, fundamentals focused on whitetail deer hunting. Because I think that that's like, the most accessible hunting for the majority of the country. And just like, a lot of the basics, how to field dress your deer, how to get, you know, like, get into hunting and all those kind of things. So on their website, you can check it out. It's on their Vortex Nation site, it's just called the Vortex Deer Camp. You can find that there. And just, you know, it's a good first step to maybe nudge you in the right direction of filling your first tag and harvesting your first deer. So a lot of cool information there as well. You know, a great blog for just kind of getting people started. So you guys can check that out as well and visit their. Visit their website. And I'm just going to say, until next week, guys, pass it on. We'll catch you all later.