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Now on the Locked On Celtics podcast. The Boston Celtics play some of their worst basketball of the season and Jason Tatum says he's still trying to figure things out. Welcome back to the Lockdown Celtics Podcast podcast. I'm John Corrales. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. During the tournament, FanDuel is offering $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days. Head to FanDuel.com right now to get started. Celtics lose to the Minnesota Timberwolves later on we'll get into Jason Tatum saying he's still trying to figure things out, which you kind of knew. But I got some numbers to support that. Supporting casts and the lack of offensive rebounding part of this. We'll get to that in a few minutes. Let's start at the top though. Minnesota wins this thing by 10 and it was all about the physicality to me. The whole, the beginnings, middle and end of this game. The story is just how physical they were and it, it, I'm calling it the maybe the most physical game the Celtics have played all year. But I'm not sure that it. It's the same kind of physicality that maybe the Detroit. Detroit Pistons brought to Boston. You know, my mouth sometimes doesn't want to work. But what Minnesota did, they just grabbed and pushed and banged and they did everything they could. It wasn't just physical basketball. They were handsy, they were. They were disruptive. They really tested the limit of, you can't call it all type of basketball, which the Celtics have been known to do themselves, very much so you know it when you see it. And they, they very much disrupted the Celtics all night long. And I think the very first. It was one of the very first things that we saw, especially Julius Randall. I forget. I forget who. I was listening to somebody on a podcast recently, and they were like, julius Randle is the most physical basketball player in the NBA. And you could see it. You could see it in this game. And even though he didn't score a bunch, he. You. You could feel, you could feel his presence. You can feel him defensively. So, yeah, the Minnesota Timberwolves came in and just knocked the Celtics around. First quarter, third quarter. The Celtics were okay when they had their starters in there. Tatum, Kata, Brown, White Houser, that group was okay. The second and fourth quarters, the groups that the Celtics were throwing out there were not good. And that's where the Timberwolves kind of made. Made their runs. The Celtics won the first quarter, 23 to 14. They lost the second quarter, 33, 21. They won the third quarter 33, 29. They lost the fourth quarter, 26 15. That fourth quarter was some of the worst basketball you're going to see out of the Boston Celtics. Not only 15 points, but just couldn't live up to what Minnesota was bringing in. Jaylen Brown said it after the game. The Celtics weren't playing Celtics basketball. Minnesota set the tone and the Celtics just didn't respond. Now there's some discussion about. Well, they. When they were coming back from Memphis, they had a plane malfunction and they were delayed for like four hours and, and they didn't get in until 7:00 o' clock in the morning and then just kind of threw them off. And yeah, that could be disruptive. But again, the Celtics had a lead up to up to 15 in this game. They had moments where they were playing well. It's just they didn't do it consistently. The bench units weren't good enough. And one mitigating factor in all of this is there were stretches there where the Celtics went without Tatum and Brown on the floor. And I think ultimately one of those guys will be on the floor at all times when. Whenever Tatum's minute restriction is up. So the. The question really is, will that happen at some point when the playoffs roll around? We're about a little. A little less than a month. Let me just double check this, because the Celtics regular season ends on the 12th, and so, yeah, the. They have that whole week. So I would say the playoffs begin 18th, 19th, 20th, somewhere in there. This is the March 23rd show. So just a touch under a month to go before the Celtics are in the playoffs. Is that enough time for Tatum to get up to playoff minutes? I'll talk more about Tatum later on, but it does leave the Celtics a little bit of leeway, a little bit of growth here. I also think this could have been a. A good Nikola Vuchovic game because Nimish Kater was. Was good in stretches. Luka Garza had his stretches, but neither of them was just great in this game. And I. I feel like this would have been a perfect game for that. That. You know, Vuch is a big dude. He can play a little bit physical. Just to have that. That dynamic of a big guy who can shoot and have him be just a little bit more physical, a little. A little bit more dynamic than Luca Garza, who, you know, did fine, but, you know, Luca. Luca Garza, the box score will tell you he had five offensive rebounds. Actually, no, now they've. They. It said five before when I left the arena, and now it says four. So they took one away, but he had three, I think, on one possession. Maybe that's one that they took away. But either way, he. His. His offensive rebounding numbers were inflated by one possession where he had like, tip in miss, tip and miss, tip and miss. So to have maybe Vic in there for floor spacing, but also a little bit of physicality, that. That might. That might have been helpful. So the Celtics weren't at their absolute best in this game, but, you know, neither were the. The Timberwolves. There was no Anthony Edwards in this game. So that. That is also their own mitigating factor. So, look, the bottom line here, the simp. The most simple version of the story of this game is the Celtics got their butts kicked in the fourth quarter when. When Tatum and Brown weren't around in the fourth quarter, the Timberwolves just blasted them. That. That doesn't. That doesn't absolve Tatum and Brown of what they did in the second quarter because Jalen Brown, who had an awesome first quarter came in the second quarter and committed three turnovers. Tons of live ball turnovers. Celix had one turnover in the first quarter for and that amounted to nothing. They had 10 turnovers in the second quarter. That went for 13 Minnesota points. So in the second quarter, Minnesota scored 33 points. 13 of those were off Celtics turnovers. Now I'm not saying that you take all of those away and the Celtics, who put up 21 points in that quarter would have won the quarter, but they wouldn't have lost it by by 12 if they, if they just held on to the ball. They turn the ball over way too much. Way too many live ball turnovers. Six steals in the in the second quarter for the Timberwolves. Brutal. You can't, you're just not going to get away with that. You mix in the lack of offensive rebounding and that becomes a recipe for disaster for the Celtics. What happens when you don't rebound? Your own misses? When? We'll get into that when I come back. Today's show is brought to you by fanduel. The tournament is here. One of the best times of the year. Brackets, buzzer beaters, upsets. It's non stop action from tip to the final cut down. And I can tell you that games are on in the locker room after the game. Games are on in the media dining area. People are watching on their phones, on their tablets. It's super high energy. FanDuel is giving you a way to stay in the action all tournament long. And here's the best part. You get up to $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days. That means 10 chances to stay involved throughout the entire tournament. You can mix it up however you want. 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I'm a beat writer covering the Celtics for Celtics on si. I've been doing this job or version of this job for about 20 years. Been doing this particular podcast for 10 years. So I've been around the team for a long time. So thank you for being an everydayer, being with me all the time. I really do appreciate you being here. It's a blast. It's a blast to do this for you. Even after the Celtics look like poo poo. It's the Minnesota Timberwolves. Just straight poop against the Timberwolves. Not the whole game, not the whole game, but enough. That fourth quarter was so bad. It was so bad, the Celtics couldn't hit a thing. And when you can't hit a shot, there should be a ton of offensive rebounds. And there were a ton of offensive rebounds available, but the Celtics only got 21.3% of their misses. Normally the Celtics are in that 34, 35, 36% range. They were up around 40 against the Minnesota Timberwolves. When you're missing a bunch of shots and you can get those offensive rebounds, it's a killer. Not only when you get the offensive rebounds, are you getting the put back and getting an extra shot and giving yourself an extra bite at the apple and a chance to score. Celtics put up 92 points, it's. That's a horrible number for Boston. It's not a great number anyway. But for the Celtics, the high powered offense that they have is just a terrible, terrible number. So not only are you giving yourself a chance to pile up some points, if you just grab 30% of your offensive rebound opportunities, 9% more, you get a chance to make this a. A tie game, maybe even give yourself a lead. But not only that, it's demoralizing to the other team what the Celtics did by not grabbing the. The rebounds, they allowed IO Dasumu Bones Highland to get out and run. Those guys are fast. They got up the floor in a hurry. They got a ton at the rim. They got. They got the confidence. Bones Highland. I've. I don't know if I've seen another person talk as much trash as he did. I've seen a lot of trash talk in my life. But the way Bones, I mean, he was. It wasn't even trash talk. It was taunting. He had that. He had the confidence rolling. Now. He's always been a confident guy. He's always had that kind of brashness to his game, but, man, it felt like he took it to another level. Poor Ugo Gonzalez, man, you know me. You know how much I love Ugo. This was a rough game, but look, just side note, great lesson for him. This is great. This is. I love games like this for Ugo Gonzalez. I mean, you'd love more than that. You'd love for him to. To just be perfect all the time, but that's not how it goes. You're not. It's not perfection in this league. You need to face the adversity. So having that opportunity to get roasted by Bones Highland, that's. You know, you hear everybody listen to a player podcast somewhere down. Everybody has it. Oh, so what's your welcome to the NBA moment? And invariably they'd be like, yeah, this dude just roasted me. And it's some random guy, right? It's not Kevin Durant roasted me. It's not. It's some dude like a Bones Highland. You're like, I had nothing for him defensively. And that. That's kind of where Ugo is in this game. He had nothing for. For bows Highland. Defensively, Bones was pointing at him. He was kind of laughing at him. He was scoffing. It's crazy. But not grabbing the offensive rebounds. And the Celtics are so committed to the offensive rebound that guys crash from the corner. And if they're not. If the way the. The Minnesota Timberwolves were Physical. They just not only prevented the Celtics from getting the. The. The rebound, the offensive rebound, they kind of like, prevented the Celtics from getting even back to. To guard in transition. So it was a. It was a rough one. It was a rough one for. For the Celtics in that regard. When you. When you're not grabbing the. The. The rebounds against a team like Minnesota with how big and fast they can. They can be, especially that second unit without. Go bear on the floor, I think you now have a kind of cascading set of problems in this game. Shots aren't falling. You get a little down on yourself. You try to crash. Guys try to crash. They're. They're not getting to the boards. Minnesota gets out in transition, puts a ton of pressure on your defense to get stops, and then it puts a ton of pressure on your offense to find ways to score, because now you're sitting there saying, well, we're. We're not even grabbing offensive rebounds. A lot of times for the Celtics, you just shoot. You're like, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if I make or miss, because Luca is going to go out there and grab this rebound. Baylor Shireman's going to go out there and grab a rebound. Ugo is going to go in there and grab a rebound. Derrick White, all those guys, and it wasn't happening in this game, and it's like, oh, crap. Now. Now you have a little tendency, like, all right, we're gonna have to isolate a little bit. Now you get Jalen and Jason saying, all right, if. If guys aren't making shots, if we're not getting the ball movement, if we're not getting the. The sec, this second chances, now we got to go do something a little bit more ourselves, right? That's the natural kind of progression of things. Jaylen Brown says, okay, I got to do it. I got to go out there. Team needs somebody to score, and no one else is doing it. We're not getting second chances. So I got to do it. Jason Tatum, same thing. And that means that a guy who's, quote, trying to figure it out, still trying to figure it out has to come out there and figure something out quick in a hurry, and he kind of did in the third quarter. But this was. This was a battle of supporting casts, and the Celtics supporting cast just couldn't do what the Minnesota supporting cast did. Bones Highland scored 23 points off the bench. The Celtics, entire bench, scored 26. You had 10 for Pritchard, five for Baylor, five for Luca, and then four for Max Shulga. And two for Charles Bassey. So those don't even really count as far as bench points because those were garbage time points in the last two minutes. So really, Bones. Highland outscored the Celtics bench by three by himself. Shout out to Max Shilga, by the way, first player ever to score in a G League game and an NBA game in the same night. Played in the G league game earlier in the day. Then goes to Boston and gets two minutes and, you know, hits a bucket, gets two free throws and four points. So. But supporting cast, Celtics look, Sam Houser, two points. Not good enough, man. Sam Houser's in a bit of a slump. Sam is. Is struggling. The numbers for Sam, 35% post all star break from 3.31.3% in March, 25 from 3 in his last five games. It's. He's. He's on. He's on the struggle bus right now, so he needs to. He needs to find that shot soon. Neemi, like I said, had. He had 10 rebounds, four offensive rebounds. He had moments, certainly had his moments, but also four points, two of five shooting. You'd like. You'd like to get a little something more on those put backs, those, those offensive rebounds. Baylor chairman, a guy that you've been able to count on. Zero offensive rebounds. Ugo Gonzalez, zero offensive rebounds. Hugo, Just a bad night. A bad night. Luca Garza, like I said, the he again, he had his moments. He hit a three. Good to see him against his former team, but he didn't do. He didn't do enough. Peyton Pritchard, 10 points, 4 of 11 shooting, 2 of 6 from 3. He had his moments. He had, you know, a couple stretches where he had to hit a couple of shots and you're like, okay, Peyton Pritchard is stepping in. End of the first quarter. Did. Did a little bit of work there, but not enough. Not enough. You had 29 from Jaylen Brown, 16 from Jason Tatum. We'll get to those guys and Tatum trying to figure it out next. 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So go to lockdown celtics.supercast.com lockdownceltics.supercast.com to sign up. I'll also drop that link in the show. Notes. Jalen Brown had incredible first quarter. He was great. He had 11 points at one point. He had like 11 of 11 of 17 Celtics points. And the. The Timberwolves were only at like 12, 13, 14, something crazy. So it looked like in the first quarter that Jalen was going to be kind of first of all, it was first quarter. Jalen. We love first quarter. Jalen and the Timberwolves weren't going to be able to score. And the Celtics were poised to make a. I want to say make a run, but poised to kind of get a little bit of separation. Europe 9 at the end of the first quarter, that second quarter, if you just protect the ball. But Jalen had three turnovers in that second quarter. The Celtics, like I said, had, I think was 9 or 10. Jalen said we got lackadaisical with the ball. We didn't match their physicality, didn't match what they brought. They were the harder playing team. But if Jalen was able to protect the ball and play up to his standard, I mean, I know he's turnover prone sometimes, but this was. This was kind of like the worst of Jalen Brown. The Celtics could have at least gone into the half with some. Some level of a lead. Instead, Bones Highland hits a buzzer beater and the Timberwolves go into the lead, into the half with the lead. So the second quarter, you can say the second quarter is where this thing was lost. Even though the fourth quarter was a disaster, if the second quarter, if the Celtics protect the ball in the second quarter and they. They win it at all, then that changes the dynamic of the second half. Because now in that third quarter, if the third quarter goes the same way, you're. You're going into the fourth with a comfortable lead. Momentum not giving them confidence. So Jalen had a. The numbers. You look at the numbers and you say 29.7 rebounds for assists. That's. That's all nice. It's just a. It's Nice. Tough shooting 9 of 26, but 9 of 11 from the free throw line. He's getting to the line. You say, okay, not a bad night for Jalen, but it was first quarter. And then after the first quarter, it kind of was not the best night for Jalen. Jason, he had one stretch in the third quarter where he. In the first first half, he was scoreless 0 for 4. 0 for 3 from 3. 5 rebounds and an assistant. 0 points. Third quarter, 13 points for JS for Jason. 5 of 9 shooting, 2 of 4 from 3, 4 rebounds and assists. The steal plus 6 in the. In the third quarter, he got going. He's having trouble finishing at the rim. And all of a sudden, in the third quarter, he gets the. The finish over Rudy Gobert. And I was like, he's. He's. He has botched layups. He's been smoking bunnies all day long. He blew one point blank. The front of the rim, just left it short. I was like, man, he is. He is struggling. He doesn't have that same burst he doesn't have. But then he has that finish in the. In the. In the beginning of the third quarter over. Go Bear. And I'm thinking like, oh, okay, maybe this gets him going. And then it's immediately quick, seven points, potato after the game says, listen, I'm still. I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm still trying to. You know, it's still rehab, and it's. It's all true. Like, he's. He's still rehabbing. We have to remind ourselves now. I did a deep dive in the stats on Celtics, on si. He's. He's driving. He. You know, we saw him attacking the rim, but last year on his drives, he was at 1.028 points per possession, which is good. That's a good number. You. It's like, you look at Shea, Gilgis, Alexander, right Now, he's averaging 1.18 points per possession. So that's. That's kind of like the elite number. He's. It's a. Was a really good number this. This season on his drives. Jason Tatum's averaging 714 points per possession, which is really bad. So he's. He's driving about the same amount, but he's not finishing. He's. Some of them are straight misses, some of them are getting blocked some. I. He. He's not getting the. The finishes. He's not getting the burst he's not getting. He's not playing through people. He's playing like. I remember a few years ago when Tatum was struggling at the rim, and it was like, he's shying away from contact when he plays through people, when he embraces the contact, he gets to the line. He gets more points per possession because he'll get to the free throw line in that possession on a drive, and that. That adds up. That all adds up. So the third quarter, the shots were falling. The rest of the game, they were not. And so far, in eight or nine games that he's been back, it's been kind of spotty. Right? He had one good game against the warriors and they had a little, little patches of playing or finishing well. He's rebounding, he's doing all this other stuff, but the, the burst is not there. The, the explosiveness is not there. It needs to get there and he will. When he was talking to us after the game, it's, he's actually, you can tell he's, he's speaking with some level of confidence in himself because when it was, when he was starting to talk, it was a very low mumble, very quiet. Jason Tatum. And then as he was talking about his recovery and the stuff that he's seeing and he got more like he actually spoke with some confidence, which means he was, he was projecting his voice and he was speaking more clearly and he was actually having like a conversation. You know, when Jason doesn't want to talk, it's just slow and mumble and quiet. You know, he, he's not interested in talking to the media at all. But as he's talking about his recovery and all of the things that he's facing, he just kind of perked up a little bit because he, I think, I think he wants people to understand. Like I listen, I am still in the rehab process. I am not Jason Tatum. And he's, he's been kind of honest. He wants to be first team, all NBA. Jason Tatum, he's not going to be that guy. This, this version of Jason Tatum is not an all NBA player right now. There's all the confidence in the world that he will get there, but he's not there yet. So it's, it's a little bit of a wait and see. I'm not sure if he's going to get there in time for the playoffs. There is, there is some optimism. I think it's, it's great to be optimistic about Tatum being some level of himself, which he already is. You know, the playoffs are going to be a different story and it'll be interesting, interesting to see how he plays under those circumstances with the, with this kind of physicality kind of being the norm. How's he going to handle that for a seven game series or more? We'll see. A month to get yourself kind of squared away and back on track. You might say, hey, that's plenty of time. But it's hard to say with an Achilles and coming back from an Achilles. He may not be, he may not be 100% Jayson Tatum. No matter how long this goes, the Celtics could win a championship and Jason Tatum will come out the other side and be like, I never felt like myself. It won't be until next season that he probably feels more like himself. Let me just finish up by saying, this is exactly why I have been pushing for him all year long to come back this season and why I keep saying this is gravy and how I keep saying it doesn't, like it's already a success. This because Jason coming back and knocking off the rust and doing this now, we didn't want this to be November and December of next season. He would have come back and been a version of himself and would have looked good, but he wouldn't have been ready. Now, going through this, going through the ups and downs and learning what he needs to learn and taking what he needs to take with him into the, into the off season, that is so much more advantageous than having him come back and play next year as his first NBA basketball. I think this, what we're seeing now, the lack of bursts, the lack of finishing ability, he needs to get through that. He needs to figure this out. He needs to find that explosiveness at some point. Doing it now and then, figuring it out. Even if he never gets it back this season and in the playoffs, which by the way, real possibility that he never gets all the way back before the playoffs are over, whenever they're over, doing all of this now lets him go into the off season and say, okay, I really have to build this. I really have to work on this. I have to figure out, even if he's. Maybe he never gets a certain aspect of his game back, maybe it just never comes back. I don't expect that, but maybe it doesn't. So what does he do? Spends this summer going through all of the games that he's playing right now saying, okay, this worked, this didn't. This is what I have to become. This is what I need to add to my game. This is what I need to throw away. I'm not doing this anymore. Whatever it is. I think that's more worst case scenario. But either way, how he's playing right now, to me is proof enough that him coming back this season was the absolute right thing to do. And I, I love the fact that he's going through this now so he can get it over with. So that's where I land on Jason Tatum and that's where we land at the end of this podcast. So thank you very much for being with me. It's a Monday through Friday show if you're new to the show, plus bonus podcasts when they play on a weekend, which they do plenty sometimes during the week. I will give you bonus podcasts of varying lengths, but you will get bonus content throughout the week during the day. So you got to be subscribed here wherever. If you're listening or if you're watching, subscribe so you get notified when I drop a new show because they could be happening at any time, so make sure you're subscribed there. However, get into the YouTube comment section. 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