Boston Celtics Owner Bill Chisholm VOWS to Do Whatever It Takes for Championship Glory

Summary

Locked On Celtics: Boston Celtics Owner Bill Chisholm VOWS to Do Whatever It Takes for Championship Glory

Host: John Karalis (Locked On Podcast Network)
Episode Date: April 6, 2026

---

Episode Overview

This bonus episode centers on the wide-ranging interview Boston Celtics owner Bill Chisholm gave to The Boston Globe, with John Karalis digging into three critical subjects:

1. Chisholm’s offseason spending philosophy and willingness to pay for championship contention.
2. His commitment to keeping Brad Stevens (President of Basketball Operations) and Joe Mazzulla (Head Coach).
3. The team’s future at TD Garden and potential thoughts on relocation or a new arena.

Karalis provides in-depth analysis and reaction, addressing misconceptions, salary cap maneuvering, franchise stability, loyalty, and negotiations over the Celtics’ home. The tone is candid and insightful, mixing detailed basketball analysis with the insider’s perspective of a veteran Celtics reporter.

---

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Bill Chisholm’s Offseason Commitment: “I’ll Do Whatever It Takes”

Main Topic [03:22–14:56]:

• Chisholm’s Quote:

  “I’ll do whatever it takes. I think I’ve gotten a pretty good depth of knowledge around all the scaffolding to make those decisions. There will be times where there will be some tough decisions that I’m ready to make. But the most important decision is having that layer of management and leadership in place. And we’ve got that.”
  (From the Boston Globe interview, discussed at 04:23)

• Karalis’ Interpretation:

  • Dismisses the idea that Chisholm is “cheap” due to recent moves to avoid the luxury tax at the trade deadline.
  • Praises the Celtics for smart salary structuring, maximizing flexibility under the new CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).
  • Points out that Celtics are not hard-capped, can now use exceptions such as the full MLE, and have a valuable traded player exception.
  • Recent trades (Tillman, Boucher, Minott out; Ron Harper Jr., Amari Williams, Max Shulga in) were about rotation fit and flexibility, not cost-cutting.
    • “The moves they made were to set them up for a future with no trade restrictions, no hard cap, and now they can spend money.” (05:29)
  • Points out that all rotation contributors are under contract next season except Vucevic, whose market value is likely low.
    • “Everybody’s basically under contract and that brings you peace of mind, a freedom to play.” (10:47)
  • Discusses upcoming contract motivators (Keda, Garza, and others).
  • Advises flexibility:

    “When it comes to making these tough decisions and Bill Chisholm saying, ‘we’re going to do what we gotta do and I’m going to do what it takes,’ you can go into the summer with a plan… but the plan has to be flexible.” (14:30)

  • Concluding thought: Believes Chisholm’s stated intentions, but says, “Prove it” when the time comes (14:56).

---

2. Commitment to Brad Stevens & Joe Mazzulla

Segment [17:12–25:30]:

• Chisholm’s Quote:

  “I do not take it for granted. I look around at the owner’s meetings and talking to other folks and hear of the challenges they have and the wholesale changes they have to make, not just to their rosters, but their management. It’s extraordinary here. It’s all I know. But I know enough to know this is not normal to have this. I’m going to fight and claw and do everything in my power to make sure we keep it going with those guys.”
  (22:11)

• Karalis’ Analysis:

  • Chisholm is not just paying lip service; emphasizes “fight and claw” to keep Stevens and Mazzulla, rejecting overtures from other teams or colleges.
  • Brad Stevens is steady and could use interest from other teams as leverage at the negotiation table.
    • “You got to do what’s good for you, man… This is how they earn their money.” (23:23)
  • Notes Joe Mazzulla just signed an extension, likely to stay, especially as a Rhode Islander and Celtics fan.
    • “We’re not gonna let some weather scare us away. Come on. Joe’s not gonna go anywhere. He loves this.” (24:15)
  • Advises not to let loyalty prevent fair self-advocacy.
  • Credits both Stevens and Mazzulla for maximizing under-the-radar talent (ex: Luca Garza), and seamlessly adapting to CBA constraints.
  • “No matter what happens, the Celtics have clearly figured out the second apron, ins and outs… Joe Mazzulla just taps into guys and what they do well and gets them to respond.” (26:05)

---

3. The Future at TD Garden: Negotiations and Speculation

Segment [27:43–40:10]:

• Chisholm’s Quote:

  “My starting point is if we can make it work, we’d love to stay where we are. And making it work means improving the fan experience and the player experience. If we can do those things and remain where we are now, that’s great. If it doesn’t work there, we’ll think about other places. But my goal here is to see if we ideally make it work where we are.”
  (29:07)

• Karalis’ Breakdown:

  • Considers this language “more negotiating than it is actually considering leaving.”
  • Calls out “player experience” as the big differentiator—notes locker rooms and behind-the-scenes facilities are smaller/less luxurious than in new NBA arenas; relatively little recent investment given the building is shared with the Bruins (owned by Delaware North).
  • Fans’ experience is “generally pretty good”—but expanding, upgrading, or remodeling back-end spaces would improve player experience.
  • Speculates on possible new arena locations (seaport, near the casino) but notes massive cost, environmental work, and political complications.
    • “My feeling is this quote is more negotiation, more—I'll leave open the possibility of leaving… Don’t think I won’t find a way to get a couple billion more to build a new building.” (34:22)
  • Also raises the possibility of an upcoming Boston WNBA team as part of the arena’s future calculus.
  • Ultimately, Karalis doubts a concrete move away from TD Garden is imminent, but the “threat” is a business tactic to get leverage for upgrades:
    • “I feel like this is more negotiating than actually considering leaving.” (37:48)
    • “If they build it in the right place and people can get there… one successful season in that new building, everybody’d forget about the old Garden.” (39:00)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chisholm on spending:
  “I’ll do whatever it takes.” (04:23)
• Karalis on the trade deadline moves:
  “The Celtics are a smart team. They’re trying to do smart things.” (05:36)
• Chisholm on Stevens & Mazzulla:
  “I’m going to fight and claw and do everything in my power to make sure we keep it going with those guys.” (22:11)
• Karalis on Celtics management:
  “No matter what happens, the Celtics have clearly figured out the second apron, ins and outs…” (26:05)
• Chisholm on TD Garden:
  “My starting point is if we can make it work, we’d love to stay where we are. And making it work means improving the fan experience and the player experience... But my goal here is to see if we ideally make it work where we are.” (29:07)
• Karalis’ assessment:
  “I feel like this is more negotiating than actually considering leaving.” (37:48)
• On new arenas:
  “If they build it in the right place and people can get there… one successful season in that new building, everybody’d forget about the old Garden.” (39:00)

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:23 – Chisholm’s vow to “do whatever it takes”
• 05:36 – Dissecting Celtics’ approach to luxury tax
• 10:47 – Celtics roster/contract flexibility for 2026–27
• 14:30 – Flexibility vs. fixed plans for the offseason
• 22:11 – “Fight and claw” to retain Stevens and Mazzulla
• 24:15 – Joe Mazzulla’s local roots and loyalty
• 26:05 – Celtics’ management and coaching execution under new CBA
• 29:07 – Debate on TD Garden vs. potential new arena
• 37:48 – Arena talk: negotiation vs. threat of relocation
• 39:00 – “One successful season in that new building…”

---

Final Takeaways

• Bill Chisholm’s public statements reinforce his hunger for a championship and willingness to invest, but the NBA and player/coach negotiations require flexibility, timing, and the occasional “prove it” moment.
• The Celtics’ front office and coaching staff remain a competitive asset—Chisholm is determined to keep Stevens and Mazzulla from being lured away.
• The TD Garden/arena conversation is on the horizon, driven both by legitimate facility shortcomings (especially for players) and standard sports-business negotiation posturing.
• The overall message: the Celtics are smart, stable, and poised to spend and adapt—so long as the results continue and ownership walks the walk as much as it talks the talk.

---

For more details, check out the original Boston Globe interview with Bill Chisholm, and be sure to subscribe to Locked On Celtics for continuing in-depth analysis.

Transcript

[A]

It's the Locked On Podcast network your team every day. This is Wes Goldberg from Locked On NBA and Locked On Heat with a message From Dell. Dell PCs with Intel Insight are built for the moments that you plan for and the ones you don't. The moments that you're working from a cafe and realize every outlet's taken. Or the times that you're deep in your flow and can't be interrupted for an auto update. That's why Dell builds tech that adapts to you when with long lasting battery and built in intelligence that makes updates around your schedule not in the middle of it. Find technology built for the way you [e-mail] XPS built for you. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card members can earn unlimited daily cash back on everyday purchases wherever they shop. This means you could be earning daily cash on just about anything, like a slice of pizza from your local pizza place or a latte from the corner coffee shop. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app to see your credit limit or offer in minutes subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms and more at applecard.com now on a bonus Locked On Celtics podcast, Bill Chisum talks about off season decisions Brad Stevens and Joe Missoula and staying at TD Garden. Or maybe not staying at TD Garden. It's bonus podcast on a Monday afternoon here on the Lockdown Celtics podcast. Welcome back to the show. I'm John Corrales. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers, you bet $5 you can get 250 in bonus bets. If your first bet wins, head to FanDuel.com to get started. Bill Chisum spoke to the Boston Globe and Adam Himmelsbach and had a wide ranging interview. I picked out three topics to talk about on this bonus podcast because later on Tom went Westerholm and I are going to talk to Mishkeda. So we're gonna I have a whole big Namishkeda podcast planned for the Tuesday show, so bonus podcast here on the interview with Bill Chisholm. So later on in the third segment we'll get to whether or not the Celtics will stay at TD Garden. There's still some kind of up in the air whether they will or won't. Maybe that's negotiating. We'll see. Second segment he talks about Brad Stevens and Joe Missoula. We'll save that for segment two, but we'll start with his comments about this off season and off season decisions and I wanted to start with this because there's some, I think, misconception out there about whether Bill Chisholm is ready to spend or not going to spend or if he's cheap because of the way the Celtics handled the tax situation to, at the end of the trade deadline and all of that stuff. So here's the quote. He says, I'll do whatever it takes. I think I've gotten a pretty good depth of knowledge around all the scaffolding to make those decisions. There will be times where there will be some tough decisions that I'm ready to make. But the most important decision is having that layer of management and leadership in place. And we've got that. So that kind of teases the second segment of Brad and Joe. But in his interview here, Chisholm says, I'm going to do whatever I can to win. I'm desperate to win. I want to win all of that stuff. And so I believe that he is going to do what it takes to win. That's my impression because I don't subscribe to the. He was cheap at the end of the, at the trade deadline. I, I think what the Celtics did was smart. They are a smart team. They're trying to do smart things. And the, the moves that they made were to set them up for a future where they didn't have any trade restrictions, where they didn't have, they didn't have the hard cap, all of the second apron, first apron stuff that all went away. They can now spend money. They can use a full mid level exception if they want. They have a traded player exception to use if they want. They traded Tillman, Boucher and Minot, three guys who had fallen out of the rotation who weren't playing. They upgraded Derek, I keep saying Derek, Ron Harper Jr. They upgraded him and he's a contributor to the team. He's a guy who's actually playing. They upgraded Amari Williams. He has played and he has, I believe, some semblance of a future here potentially in Boston. And Max Shulga, congratulations. You made a little extra money in this deal. Part of the plan to get under the tax. Why? First of all, why pay the tax if you don't have to? Why do that if you don't have to? Not only do you not pay the tax, you get a tax payment from the taxpayers in the league. Why would you just say, ah, you know what? I'd rather keep Tillman and Minot and those guys. Like, Minot's done some nice things for Brooklyn, but he wasn't, he wasn't going to be part of this rotation. Clearly Joe Missoula has made that, that decision. And I kind of trust Joe Missoula at this point. I'm not, I'm not going to look at all of the stuff that Joe Missoula has done and then say, man, you really screwed up on, on Josh Minot. Look at what he's gotten out of all of these guys. He's earned the benefit of the doubt. So those guys gone, the guys that are in deserve to be there. One guy, two guys not getting minutes. Who cares who those guys? You could put me there. You can put anybody there. It doesn't matter who's, who's in those, in those seats. And Ron Harper Jr. Now gets to be playoff eligible. So it makes sense now. They go into the summer and they have an opportunity. You can stay under the tax if you want to try that. It kind of depends on Vuchovic and how he plays. Do they want to keep him? What's he going to want? Money wise at this point, I can't imagine he's going to be very expensive. So you can keep him. The development of the Miashkeda has been huge. The development of Luca Garza has been huge. I think the, the way they've played in this system shows that the system can be effective with them. So the Celtics, the Celtics offseason this summer could be a whole lot different than the summer we thought they were going to have just a few months ago. So you go into it saying, hey, we, we have an opportunity to keep a team together to that, who knows what they're going to do. Get to the finals, win a championship. Everything is possible with these guys. You go into a summer, stay under the tax and then say, well, if, if it doesn't work, you still have the option of spending money at the deadline, trading for somebody at the deadline. If for some reason and one element to this team success this year is that everybody is under contract. I think that's, that's kind of been an under, under discussed part of all of this. The Celtics don't have any free agents this upcoming season. Right? This summer, everybody's, you've got team options on Charman Keda, Walsh, Amari Shoga, all of these guys have team options. Vuch is your, Vuch is your only free agent. And what's he gonna, what's he gonna demand? Taxpayer mid level. At most. At most. And at this point, the way he, he looked recently, I, I don't know if he's gonna be, you know, if he's gonna get that either. So you could bring V back very, very cheap. There's. Everybody's basically under contract and that brings you peace of mind, a freedom to play. Now, next year, if you pick up all the team options, you have Garza becoming a free agent in the summer of 2027, you have KEDA becoming a free agent, Got Walsh, you got Amari restricted, Max Shulgar restricted, Ron Harper unrestricted. There are guys who are going to be playing for things. So even if you bring back the entire same team, even if they win a championship, even if they get close, whatever it is, you can bring them all back next year. And all of a sudden motivations could change. So you could try it again next summer. And do you get the same buy in what happens with all of these guys? Do they want more money? Do they. Are they going to be playing for more money? Are they going to start getting selfish? It's entirely possible. You got a lot of young guys in their early 20s that are going to want to get paid. Nimish Kaeda is going to be 27 next year. So the Celtics pick up his team option $2.7 million. They may need to work on an extension with for him. That's going to be something we'll talk about in the next podcast, but whatever that is, they're going to have to figure some stuff out. Kate is going to want to get paid. This is his. This is his chance. This is his chance to get paid. Right? He's going to be 27 at 30, 31. The odds of still being that good start to dwindle a little bit and getting paid for the future, you know, so my point is, when it comes to making these tough decisions and Bill Chisholm saying, we're going to do what we got to do and I'm going to do what it takes. You can go into the summer with a plan, with the openness of, hey, that plan has to be flexible because next year's team's not going to be this year's team. And motivations next year are not going to be the same as motivations as this year. And there's always going to be the potential for something going wrong. A guy who was great this year is going to want. He's going to spend this summer being around friends and family, and everybody's like, man, look how good you are. You deserve more. You deserve more minutes, you deserve more playing time. You deserve more money. So things change over the summer. The Celtics have to be flexible. So even if they go into the summer with a plan to say, yeah, we are going to spend money. We are going to be. Or we're not gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna stay under the tax. You have to be able to spend money. So right now I believe Bill Chisholm when he says, I'll do whatever it takes, but there is still going to be a little bit of okay, prove it when it comes time to look at the roster and if, if, if it's not working the same way it did this year when November, December, January comes around, are you willing to spend at that point? Are you, will, are you gonna, how's that going to go? So I believe Bill Chisholm, I believe him. But it's still, he still also hasn't had the opportunity to prove it. And he's going to have to prove it. We'll get into now what he said about Brad Stevens and Joe Mazoula. That all ties into all of this when I come back. Today's show is brought to you by Quo. It's the spring. It's a natural reset point and one thing that can quietly cost business money. It's messy communication. Missed calls, scattered text, no clear threat of who said what. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q U O the smarter way to run your business communications. Quo is the number one rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews trusted by more than 90,000 businesses. It lets your whole team share one business number so you never miss a call, a text or opportunity telling you, getting everybody on the same page, making sure everybody's saying the same thing to customers, making sure they're all have the same answers to questions. That is huge. You need the whole team to see the conversation which they can do on Quo so nothing falls behind the cracks. AI summaries. Save serious time by logging calls and highlighting next steps automatically so you can get yourself organized and be more responsive. Make this the season. No opportunity and no customer slips away. Try Quo for free and get 20% off your first six months at quo quo.com/lockdown mba quo q u o.comlockdown mba quo no missed calls. No missed customers. This is Jake from Lock Dawn. When the game's on the line, the best know when to pass because the right assist can change everything. And off the court, it's no different. That's where your State Farm agent comes in. Whether it's protecting your car, your home or helping you prep for the unexpected, they'll help set you up with a game plan that works for you like a good neighbor. State Farm is there. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability and eligibility vary by state. Thanks for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day and being with me Monday through Friday, plus bonus podcasts like this one during the week, when something comes up, I will talk about it. So you get your bonus podcasts when they play on a Friday or a Saturday. You'll get your bonus podcast when things happen during the week. So you'll get six, seven, eight, nine podcasts. Whatever it is, I'll be here for you. Make sure you're subscribed to get the show daily. You're guaranteed Monday through Friday. I'm John Corrales. I'm a beat writer covering the Celtics for Sports illustrated's Celtics on SI. I've been covering this scene for 20 years. I've been doing this podcast for 10. So if there's one thing I know, it's the Boston Celtics. And Bill Chisholm, the owner of the Boston Celtics, says, says he is very happy to keep Joe and. And Brad around this quote in the Globe Again, this is a whole piece in the Boston Globe with Adam Himmelsbach. And go read it there at the Globe. These are just a couple of things. There's a lot more there. He says, I do not take it for granted. He's talking about Stevens and Missoula. I do not take that for granted. I look around at the owner's meetings and talking to other folks and hear of the challenges they have and the wholesale changes they have to make, not just to their rosters, but their management. It's extraordinary here. It's all I know. But I know enough to know this is not normal to have this. I'm going to fight and claw and do everything in my power to make sure we keep it going with those guys. So this isn't just new owner saying, yeah, I want to keep my guys. This is new owner saying, I don't care. There's a story where the. Was it the Phoenix who. Who one of these teams was like, yeah, no, we. We want Brad Stevens. We want Joe Missoula. Like, no, you're not gonna get those guys. College comes for Joe. No, you're not gonna get. You're not gonna get Joe or. Or Brad. You're not gonna get Brad. This is whatever these guys might be thinking, I'm gonna do what I can to keep them here. Now, the good thing is Brad has a very level head. Now. He might, because this is a job In a business, and there's negotiations, it's very easy to kind of float the. Huh? Oh, yeah. This other team wants me, huh? What do you. What are you willing to give me? What are you willing to pay? Just kind of float a little something out there and just see if. Okay, Bill, you really. You really want me to stay? You really want to fight and claw? All right, let's see a little fighting and clawing then. And listen, I'm not opposed to that. You got to do. You got to do what's good for you, man. This is. We are watching the Celtics. You're a Celtics fan. You want nothing but what's best for the team. You have a sense of civic pride when they do well. You feel good when they do well. But these are jobs. This is how they earn their money. Brad Stevens has earned a lot of money doing this job. Really, really well. Earn a little bit more. You wanna. You wanna fight and claw, as he says in this quote. Fight and claw. And do everything in my power to make sure we keep it going with these guys. All right, well, this contract's coming up. Have a little more fighting and clawing here. There's another zero in there. Look. How does another zero look? Is that fighting and clawing? Why not? I don't think Brad's gonna go anywhere. I don't think he's gonna do anything stupid. If he angles for a raise, good for him. Joe. Joe just signed an extension, so he's around for a little while. I don't know the length of the extension, but he's around for a little while. Joe has a great attitude about how all of this goes. He knows someday he's like, I'll be fired. We all get fired someday. And that's. That's generally true. I don't know what Joe's mental state's gonna be with. With this team. You know, I. I keep mentioning it like we. We do have to start wrapping our heads around the eventual time where Jalen and Jason do go away. It's not that far off when you consider this is Jalen's 10th year. We've been talking about Jalen Brown for 10 years already, and that went by pretty quick. The next five or six or seven, that's not going to go. That's not going to drag on. That's going to go quick, too. And I don't know, but Joe's a local guy. He's a Rhode Islander like me. We don't want to go anywhere. We're. We'll sit here. We'll complain. I'll sit there in 10 degree weather, shoveling three feet of snow, going, why do I live here? But not exactly looking to leave. We like it here. We're tough. We like the winters. We're built like that. All of us New Englanders, we're stupid. You know, we got attitudes. We're not gonna let some weather scare us away. Come on. Joe's not gonna go anywhere. He loves this. He's coaching his favorite team. He grew up a Celtics fan. You get to be a legend here. So I think Bill Chisholm is a little on the lucky side with these guys. But I would always advise these guys to not let, not let blind loyalty get in the way. I think Bill Chisholm seems to be the guy that will negotiate in good faith. I would think, I would hope. But hey, you gotta, you gotta protect yourself. And I think Joe, Joe's a fighter, you know, he knows no matter. You could be in a ring, you could be in that, in that cage with a friend and they're still going to try to knock your block off. And it's kind of the same thing this team with Brad and Joe, whatever we think it's going to be, you could probably add a 10%, 15% Brad Stevens adjustment to it. A 10 to 15% Joe Missoula adjustment to it. Because Brad, and not just Brad, whenever I say Brad, I mean the entire front office and whenever I say Joe, I mean the entire coaching staff with these guys, whatever you think a team is going to be, you can add 30% to it because Brad is going to go find the players that fit somehow or gives them, gives themselves a chance to, to fit right. Luca Garza is my go to because you know how hard he works and you know what he's capable of and you know what his strengths are. You say it didn't fit here in Minnesota, but we have no bigs in Boston and, and his hard work and effort and offensive rebounding, that's going to be, that could actually work here. So let's give him a shot. Let's, let's give him, he's going to be the scrap heap guy that we give a shot. And boom. Works because Joe Missoula now gets this guy and gets into his head and taps into the hard worker and says don't worry when I don't play you. Trust me, it's just the, it's just the thing that in, in four days you could be starting and trust me, this is not about you were, were just hang with me and he builds these relationships with these guys and he gets the most out of them too. So no matter what happens, the Celtics have clearly figured out the second apron, ins and outs, partly because with Grossbeck, it was one of the people that was in on creating it. They they in their scouting, they understand who fits, who doesn't. And Joe Missoula just taps into guys and what they do well and don't do well and gets them to respond. And if they don't, if something doesn't go well, Joe and Brad will talk and that guy will be gone. And it's simple as that. So yeah, I'd fight in claw to keep those guys too. All right, maybe the most interesting thing I saved what might be the best for last is the quote about TD Garden, which may be a little bit of negotiation happening. We'll talk about that when I come back. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. NBA playoffs are right around the corner and every position, every possession matters, every matchup is magnified and every game can swing a series. Right now, FanDuel is giving new customers a great way to get in on the action. You can bet just $5 and you get 250 in bonus bets if your first bet wins. The app makes it easy to follow the action with player stats, trends and matchups all in one place during the playoffs. The extra insight really matters when you're looking at stars, role players and key moments makes the entire playoff experience more engaging. From start to finish, the Celtics have essentially they've clinched no worse than a third seed, so they will probably get the second seed. You can bet a future on what the Celtics are going to do their next matchup. Their how deep a run they're going to make. It's all [e-mail] head to fanduel.com to get started. When you sign up, they will ask you to set a limit. Set a budget. Please do so because they will help you gamble responsibly. Whatever your disposable income is, whatever you can afford to lose, that's your budget. Gamble responsibly so you can have some fun at FanDuel. Play your game. Today's show also brought to you by TurboTax Tax Season Stacks Time for a lot of us. The old way of doing taxes is a lot trying to book an appointment that's not the most convenient. Sitting in a waiting room with a stack of papers, emailing back and forth and wondering if they really get your situation. But this year you're getting a major upgrade Intuit TurboTax now has in person locations nationwide. You can meet face to face with a real tax expert and your documents get uploaded straight to your TurboTax app on the spot. Just like that you are done. Your TurboTax expert works to get you every dollar you deserve while you get real time notifications as you go about your day. It's the relief of walking in and meeting a real person and walking out knowing your taxes are being handled right. Head to turbotax.com local to find a store near you and book your appointment. Thank you for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen Every day Being an every day or joining me Monday through Friday again, this is a bonus podcast. This is podcast this is your gonna be your sixth podcast of the week, maybe more. If you're an everydayer now, get locked on Celtics ad free at the Everydayer Club and members only. Discord Access. You go to lockdownceltics.super cast.com It's $5 a month, 50 bucks for the year, so you get two months free. If you pay up front you get ad free audio compatible with every podcasting app that's out there. So check it out. Final Quote this is again all from the Boston Globes interview with Bill Chisholm, which I recommend because it's got this is one of I. I picked three questions out. There's probably a dozen questions in there, so it's worth reading. But this one really stuck out to me and it's TD Garden. And these. Again, these are just little snippets of the answers. But Bill Chisholm says, my starting point is if we can make it work, we'd love to stay where we are. And making it work means improving the fan experience and the player experience. If we can do those things and remain where we are now, that's great. If it doesn't work there, we'll think about other places. But my goal here is to see if we ideally make it work where we are. The Improving the fan experience and the player Experience the player experience is the thing that sticks out to me the most. The fan experience. You guys tell me, because I work there, you tell me. I think the fan experience is pretty good. There's a lot of restaurants. I think the area around TD Garden is pretty safe. I walk out there, it's generally pretty good. There are tons of bars and restaurants. There's upscale, there's medium scale, there's, you know, dive bars. There's everything for different age groups. I've been around TD Garden. I've been there for other events. I've been there for concerts and comedy shows. It's generally, I think, a good experience for fans. The arena. I was just talking to somebody last night. The arena is actually for a building that's 20, 25 years old, whatever, it's in fantastic condition. I've been around the league. I've seen most other arenas. The Celtics arena, TD Garden still compares very favorably to most of these arenas, if not all of them, maybe with some exception the Chase Center. The new. The brand new arenas. But even that, like the technology at Chase center is. Is great. The scoreboard. I haven't been to the Clippers arena, so I don't know. But TD Garden is. Is. Everything seems great. So you tell me if I'm wrong. I think the fan experience is pretty good. The player experience is the one that. That is interesting to me because I've also been in other locker rooms and I've seen. I've seen some home locker rooms that are like, wow. Just wow. What. What kind of. This is amazing. Huge. So much space. TVs and lockers. The crazy little things that are just. That make it so incredible. A full weight room. Full. Everything. What the Celtics have is. Is kind of small. They have. There's a whole back section that I don't even know, so I can't tell you what's back there. There's. They share it with the Bruins, so I'm sure there's some nice stuff there. I've never been inside of the actual Bruins locker room, so I don't know how that looks, but I'm. I'm assuming it probably looks a little bit better because this is. We're talking about the Bruins owners owning. Owning the building. So I do expect some kind of improvements from the player experience at some point. Somehow they even changed. Like they changed where the guys come in, so they change where they park, how they come into the building and all that stuff. They changed. They've changed a few things over the years. There are some spaces that I can think of, just offshoots that they can maybe remodel, expand and make. Maybe make the locker rooms a little bit bigger, maybe add some stuff and change kind of how the. How everything kind of fits. I don't know. But that's. That's going to be a work in progress. They still have a few years. They just re. Upped their lease, so they're going to be there for think another eight, nine years. So there's time and there's certainly time for things to go bad. Certainly time for Things to work out. I don't know where they would go. I've talked about a new building a bunch. I don't know where in Boston you would build a new arena. There's. There are some spots maybe you go. Do you go into the seaport area? That place has been pretty developed at this point. Do you go into the. There. There are a couple. There's. Do you go next to the casino? Do you do something? There's a. There's a spot there. There's been a plan that kind of floated out there of eminent domain and a lot of environmental cleanup. It's going to be a super massively expensive thing to do. But it would. It would keep the Celtics fairly close without being too disruptive. Put them next to the casino, which I'm sure the casino would like to have access to that big arena. Maybe you work in conjunction with the casino to fill that arena on off nights. It would, I'm sure, open up a lot of competition. I don't know how Delaware north, the Bruins owners, the Jacobs family, would react to that. I don't know how much palms palm greasing they would do to try to prevent it. That's certainly an element that would have to happen on both sides. So I'm very curious to see how they, how they pull this off. My feeling is this quote is more negotiation, more I'll threaten, I'll open. I'll leave open. The possibility of leaving the. Hey, I'm a venture capitalist. I. I found a way to get $6 billion to. To buy the team. Don't think I won't find a way to get a couple billion more to build a new building. You're gonna have to. Also on top of it, you're gonna spend another $500 million at some point to buy a WNBA team, because that's how this is trending in probably five years, now that the Connecticut sun are moving, boom, moving. But there's going to be. There's going to be a Boston WNBA team at some point. And so they may just use the building that they could. That could be part of the draw. I don't know. I don't know. But I feel like this is more negotiating than it is. I'm actually considering leaving. I think there's. There are ways to expand the facilities in the back to make it a little bit more player friendly. And that's. That's something that you probably want a partnership. Like, you don't want to just have the Celtics spending that money themselves. So there's going to Be a partnership there to kind of expand all of that. We'll see how that goes. But that's my take on that. I don't, I don't, I don't think they're actually going to move. But, you know, listen, if they do, as long as they keep it close, it's not the worst thing in the world. It really isn't. Because if you build a great arena that's nearby and it's not that difficult to get to and you get, you get the right public transportation and all that stuff, you can create something that's really, really cool. Just because the old stuff was one place doesn't mean you have to put the new stuff in that same place. You just got to make the new stuff accessible to people and make it easy for people to get there and make the experience really great. If they build it in the right place and people can get there and people can park there and it doesn't screw up the traffic and all that stuff, which is damn near impossible to do in Boston. But if they can find a way and pull it off, I'm telling you, one successful season in that new building, everybody forget about, oh, well, the old Garden and blah blah in history. You walk into that building, but, oh, wow, this is actually pretty nice. And the experience is great and this big scoreboard and all that stuff and the locker rooms and the players love it, people, one season is all it would take. Trust me on that. But you can't move them to, you know, Braintree. You can't move them out to, you know, wherever. You got to stay within the city limits of, of Boston. You, you certainly can't go too far west. Too far. You, you got to stay within Boston. So we do not want a Palace of Auburn Hill situation here. So those are my takes here on Bill Chisum and his interview in the Boston Globe. Again, there's. There's a lot in there, so go ahead and check that out at the Globe. And thank you for listening. It's a bonus podcast, so every once in a while I'll get bonus podcasts out here in the. During the day, try to get it posted so the audio is available for your drive home from work. So check it out if you, Even if you want to listen to it later, it's there for you whenever you can. Listen to it on your way home from work tomorrow, whatever you can. You got options, baby. You got options. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. I do appreciate you subscribing and becoming an everydayer. Join the Everydayer club. @lockdown celtics.supercast.com for ad free audio 5 bucks a month or 50 bucks for the year. Subscribe on YouTube watch the show there, get into the comments section, share your thoughts with me and then share the podcast. Tell everybody they should be listening to and watching the Lockdown Celtics podcast here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. It's your team every day. This podcast is brought to you by Colgate Total. We take oral health as seriously as you take sports. That's why Colgate Total Active Prevention uses advanced technology to help prevent oral health problems like cavities and gingivitis before they start. It's clinically proven to provide 24 hour antibacterial protection with twice daily brushing after four weeks of use. So get a winning routine and prevent oral health problems before they start. Treat shop Colgate Total Active Prevention At a retailer near you, you're juggling a lot, but you can still squeeze in a financial plan with the Northwestern Mutual Financial Advisor as your partner. It's not only possible, it's personalized. So if you're tying the knot, closing on a house, or welcoming a little one, you'll be ready for whatever life tosses your way. It's the right time to feel less stressed and more certain. That's a better way to money. Let's get [e-mail] the Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin as a fan chosen for the Halftime challenge, I love sports for a chance to win the big prize. But when my half court heave only goes half the distance, how embarrassing for him? I wonder, is sport clips better than sports? Because Sport Clips Haircuts is sports on tv plus an expert haircut, Hot stuff steam towel and massaging shampoo tear up his comically large check which is better than sports plus public embarrassment. Sport Clips? It's a game changer. Check it [e-mail].