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Celtics Coaches DEMOLISH Media in EMBARRASSING pick up game | Al Horford explains departure
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Celtics coaches DOMINATE media in shocking 57-4 blowout. John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal breaks down the hilarious media vs. coaches game, sharing his frustrations and near-elbowing of Joe Mazzulla. The discussion shifts to Al Horford's departure, analyzing its impact on the Celtics' championship aspirations. "Starting Five" director Trishtan Williams offers exclusive insights into the upcoming Netflix series, promising to reveal Jaylen Brown's hidden personality and James Harden's unexpected vulnerability. Tune in for an inside look at the Celtics' off-court antics, roster moves, and a sneak peek at the Netflix series that's set to change how fans see their favorite NBA stars.
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John Corrales
Yes, I was on the floor for the Boston Celtics coaches beating the media in a pickup game by 53 points in 12 minutes. I'll tell you how that went. Plus, Al Horford discusses his departure from Boston right now on the Lockdown Celtics podcast.
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Tristan Williams
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John Corrales
And there. Welcome back to the Lockdown Celtics Podcast right here in the Lockdown Podcast network. Where does your team every day your team is the Boston Celtics and I talk about them Monday through Friday, bonus podcast when they play on the weekends. So make sure you're subscribed. Watch this show on YouTube. The show's free. It's available everywhere. You can get into the comments section on YouTube. Share your thoughts with your fellow everydayers, people who are with me every Monday through Friday and and with me. I'm John Corrales, beat writer for Boston Sports Journal. I've written a couple of books about the team and I've been covering the Celtics for about 20 years. Today's show is brought to you by Game time. Download the GameTime app, create an account, use the code LOCKDOWN NBA for $20 off your first purchase. Later on in the third segment, I have an interview with Starting 5 director Tristan Williams, who this this is the new version of Starting Five. Last year it was Jason Tatum. This year it's Jaylen Brown. We'll get an inside behind the scenes look. That is in the third segment, so stick around for that. In the second segment, I will talk about Al Horford's departure. He opened up to the Athletic about his leaving Boston and really the Jason Tatum injury was the the real trigger for him to go. But the biggest story, I didn't expect this to be the case. I thought this was going to end up being like a mailbag episode or something. But then what was supposed to be a media pickup game became like ESPN headline. In fact, id. I haven't even gone to the ESPN NBA page. I'm gonna look at the the news. Okay. The top headlines, it's not. It's not. At least not on the top headlines. But they tweeted it out. It's on their Instagram. It's everywhere. I got Mailbag. I did get a mailbag question about it. What we normally do is have a media game every once in a while. We just play each other. It's a pickup game. They let us do it at the practice facility. It's a fun thing to do. We were told, hey, some of the coaches might actually be coaching you guys. Like, okay, that's fun. That's a fun little interaction. And then Joe Missoula at practice on Tuesday says, I hate to inform you, but you're gonna be playing against the coaches. And I thought it was like maybe a joke, but of course Joe Mazzulla doesn't joke about that. We actually had to play the coaches for 12 minutes and then afterwards the media got to play each other. But for 12 minutes, the Boston Celtics coaches relentlessly pressed full court and forced, I don't know, 40 turnovers, whatever it was, just wouldn't even let us get shots off. Pressed like crazy. Shot almost nothing but threes, except for the few times that they dunked on us and put up a final score of 57 to 4. I started the game jumping center against Emil Jefferson. Emil Jefferson played three years at Duke, was a captain on their national championship team, played. I had a couple of two way contracts with the Orlando Magic, played overseas until a few years ago, and, and now I'm looking at him, McDonald's All America, and I'm like looking at him, he's only 32 years old. I'm 20 years older than him, and I'm looking at him, I'm like, okay, this is how my day's starting. All right, so obviously he wins the jump ball and off to the races. It was relentless. They people like, look, man, we're, we're the media. We love basketball. And I hope, I hope what came away from this, I hope what all the coaches saw was that we were, we were trying. It was frustrating as all hell. I came out at one point, I had a water bottle in my hand and I wanted to throw it at Joe Missoula's head so bad because I was like, what are you doing here? What point are you trying to prove? And I hope that the message that we sent was, hey, you can try and embarrass us all you want, we're still going to try because we still love basketball. That's what we are. We're the media. We still love basketball. We don't understand it the same way these guys in the NBA do. That's part of why we ask the questions. Because fans certainly don't understand it the way guys in the NBA do, but we still love basketball. And yeah, I still like to play every once in a while, even though I'm old and certainly nowhere close to my playing weight, let's just say that. So I hope that's what. What came across. Everybody was trying and we had. I think we. The question is, who scored the four points? I think Kari Thompson of Boston.com had a putback, so he snuck in for one. I forget who else might have hit the layup. I don't know if it was Bobby Kravitzki of Forbes. I think. I think he might have had like, he might have snuck in there for a layup too. I recall getting one shot, which was fairly contested, three pointer that I'm not 100 sure if it hit the rim, might have grazed the rim. Because first of all, I only got that one shot because I felt like I had to be in the middle. They were pressing. I had to figure out a way to be in the middle of the floor. At least I had size. I'm 65 and I had some size. I have some strength still left. Not for long, but I still have it. And I was like, the best chance we have of even getting the ball into our half of the floor was I could try to get to the middle of the floor and I could get hacked or whatever and still find somebody open and kick it ahead and maybe we can get a shot off. So I just became like that type of facilitator. So I was just. There was. We had no chance, no chance of getting the ball up the floor. And it was like I said, just raining hellfire from three. And you have at least. So Emil played for Orlando. Phil Pressy, we know Phil Press. He played for the freaking Celtics. DeSean Butler was teammates with Joe Missoula and, And went pro. God. Sham. God. Junior, Tony Dobbins. Guys who've played overseas, professionals, high level professionals, long careers overseas, and they're all like in their 20s and 30s and it was just. There was nothing we could do. There was just literally nothing we could do. So I, I think, I don't know. I honestly, I don't know why Joe felt the need to put up a 57 to 4 game. I think they were just having some fun. I think. I think probably because you had like Jalen Brown watching, Jason Tatum watching, a few other Celtics were watching. I think he just kind of wanted to be like, hey, watch what we do to the media right now. And so, hey, look, it was. It was what it was. It was a. It was fun in a frustrating way. I certainly was probably one of the More frustrated people because my competitive nature does not allow for me to live quite in that moment. So other people were like, oh, my God, I can't believe I get to do this. And I'm like, I can't believe that, like, we're not even being given a chance. I was so mad in the moment. I was so mad. I literally. I. And Joe Missoula can confirm this. I told him flat out, I wanted to elbow you so bad. I wanted to get Joe with one of those old school elbows into the solar plexus, which, when we were boxing out, I just couldn't catch him. I just couldn't catch the guy. He's shifty, he's fast. I was like, I was waiting for you come in. I had one chance to box him out, and he didn't crash hard, and I kind of missed him with it. I was waiting for him to come flying in because I would. I wanted to knock the wind out of Joe Mazool. That's how pissed I was. And I would have done it. And Joe would have appreciated it. I know for a fact Joe would appear if I caught him with an elbow and flattened him, he would have. He would have loved it. We would probably be best friends right now. But that's how I want. I wanted to. I wanted to at least send some kind of message, and I just couldn't. I couldn't even do that. They're too fast, they're too shifty. And I wasn't going to send it to any of the other coaches. I wanted to send it to Joe. But we. I told him that after the game and we laughed. And he. He even said to me, like, you know, I wish he would have, because Joe's that crazy. He's crazy like that. Ultimately, it was a fun day. It is the first basketball I've played in a long time. But everybody. Everybody kind of like, this is 57. 4 is an insane. 12 minutes is an insane score. I told Jalen Brown before we started, I said, we still get to ask you basketball questions. No matter how bad this. This looks. You know, this doesn't. This doesn't. You don't get to say to us, oh, you. You can't ask me about that. Look how bad you look the other day. No, we still get to ask you basketball questions. So that was. That was. That. That was the media game was. Was fun. But I am not. I am not in game shape. When I say sometimes I used to play. It was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. My days of being effective are at least in a full court setting. Half court, I can still half court, I, I can still get after it a little bit full court. I'm wasting so much energy getting up and down the floor that I can't, I can't do much else. So anyway, so I look, I didn't expect this, this thing to become newsworthy. I just expected to have a fun media game, come back, answer some mailbag questions and move on. But this became it just shared everywhere. It's gone viral. I got all the lockdown hosts in the group chat ask me about it. So I figured I'd share my. So everybody who played J. King, Noah Dalzell, Caleb Burton, I've mentioned a few of the others who've already played Jack Simone, who I did in frustration, push to the floor trying to foul to end of the game. To end a game because, uh, foul at the end of the game because he got an offensive rebound and I was pissed, so I pushed him to the floor. Like I said, a little competitive. So I do owe him that apology. But yeah, I've gotten some jokes on on Twitter about like, that was a flagrant one in today's NBA that might have been a flagrant one. But that's all right. We had fun. Let's talk actual basketball. When we come back, Al Horford spills the beans on why exactly he left the Boston Celtics. We'll talk about that when I come back. Today's show is brought to you by Monarch Money. You probably have a bunch. If you're like me and you're around my age, you probably have a bunch of financial accounts you're trying to save up as best you can for the future. You there's a retirement not too far off. You can see it through your binoculars. And you want to keep track of 401ks investments, whatever other CDs you have, you have a partner. Monarch Money is going to help you do all that. It's an all in one personal finance tool, brings your financial life together. One clean, easy to use interface. It's built for people with busy lives like you. Like me. You know, I put off things. 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Download the game time app, create an account, use the code locked on NBA for 20 off. Your first purchase terms apply. That's locked on NBA. L, O, C, K, E D. Locked on NBA for 20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket, go. Thank you for making lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. Go check out lockdown NBA game night. Jake Madison and I will be on lockdown NBA game night covering the whole night of preseason games tonight. So make sure this Tuesday night. So make sure you're subscribed to Locked on NBA. You get game night seven days a week. You get locked on NBA five days a week in the afternoons. So plenty of podcasting on one feed. Al Horford. I thought this was interesting. Al Horford talked about leaving Boston and that that was with the athletic and I think it confirmed a lot of the things that we were talking about when Al Horford left. First of all, I think he's kind of is like a very seamless fit in golden State. I think he's. He's exactly the kind of guy that they need. He kind of helps them play a similar style throughout the course of a game, not changing too much. His passing is. It's. It's like an extension of Draymond Green, right? You. You with. With shooting, with actual shooting, and you don't get the same level of defense, but you get a pretty close level of defense, but you make up for it on the shooting side. The passing is right there, and he's. He's going to be a big help to them. And that sucks for a lot of Celtics fans to see, and it sucks to hear that. This quote here, that he said there were two things here. I think the financial part was a component, but more than that, it was the winning part of it, trying to contend for a championship, which. Ouch. Right. He continues. I think there was a lot of things in the air. I felt like they weren't the same, that same vision, obviously, because JT getting hurt, that takes a big toll. So I think that point up until then, I was staying in Boston the whole time. So there was a little bit of concern whether they'd be competing for a championship. But Jason Tatum getting hurt. Al Horford said, look, we're not competing for a championship in Boston. They're already going to make trades. He knew that trades were coming. He knew there was a financial element to this. And once Jason Tatum got hurt, he says, up until then, I was staying in Boston the whole time, and he, you know, had to uproot his family. We talked about this in the off season, where I wasn't sure if Al's motivation to move across the country was. Was going to be strong enough for him to just say, okay, I'm going to ring Chase one more time to. To try to add to the resume. Excuse me. I think he wants to be like, a lock hall of Famer, which I think he kind of is anyway, considering his. His pro career. It was really good. The stats. The stats aren't, like, jumping off the page, but he has the longevity of being really, really good. And the championship in Boston and two college championships. I think he. He has the Basketball hall of Fame criteria, but he wants one more. And having two championships is better than having one. And why are you in the league if you're not competing for a championship at his age? Right. So I think if Jason was there, couple of things Horford would have stuck around. And I'm not sure the Celtics make the exact same moves that they did, or maybe they do Maybe they do. And you just say, hey, you're getting Anthony Simons and you're. You're keeping Al Horford. And you. What you don't do is you don't sign Chris Boucher, and that's. That's the trade off, right? Or you don't. Maybe you don't sign Luca Garza. Maybe it's those. Those things are hypotheticals. But I think if Tatum was here and healthy, it just adds another layer, another dimension to, obviously to this team that Horford would have said between. Between jt, jb, me, Peyton, like, we have enough in the East. You can look at that and say, we have enough. The Cavs are good, but you look at some projections, and some of the projections don't look like. Love the Cavs. Some of the projections. I saw something about ESPN simulating their. The season in Orlando was at the top of the East. So even, like, the models aren't sure what to do with the Eastern Conference. So if Tatum doesn't get hurt, Horford sticks around. That. That changes some of the dynamic. It certainly changes some of the rebounding, because Tatum would have been in there to grab some rebounds. And like we said yesterday, the. The rebounding issues that the Celtics have that I think gets solved by just getting four or five more rebounds, and Tatum would be in there to get four or five more rebounds because he averages, like, 10. So I understand what Horford, where Horford is coming from and, you know, up to. It's up to him and his family. And if the family's like, yeah, sure, let's go live in San Francisco, then sure, then go for it, right? If his family had said, absolutely not, we don't want to move, we don't want to go to San Francisco, we're not doing this, then maybe Al would have said, all right, fine, He. He did say that he never really considered retirement, even though there were reports that he was. I don't know where that would have gone if. If his family had kind of like, put their foot down. But the reason why Al is gone is because Jason got hurt. And you. You just knew that this team was not going to be a serious title contender. And when you look at this team without Tatum and with all the moves that they made, what. What is Al Horford going to do to help this team? You know, he can do some, but at 39, he wasn't moving the needle. What's he going to win a couple of games for the Celtics? He certainly, you know, could have helped with some rebounding, but he's never been a huge rebounder. So he, he, you know, he would have helped some. Obviously, he's Al Horford. He's good still, but it still wouldn't have moved the needle. And he knows that if he thought it would have, he would have moved the needle. He might have stayed because he loves Boston, his family loves Boston. There's no doubt about that. So tough to hear that. Al kind of confirmed the stuff that we thought. I had hoped that Al would finish his career in Boston. He got his title, I thought, I thought just finishing it out here would have been nice. Maybe two more years, you get one more, one of those JT years when he came back, who knows? But anyway, that's, that's what Al Horford said. And you got to respect his decision. All right. When we come back, a conversation with Tristan Williams, director of the Starting Five, the new Netflix series, this time including Jalen Brown. That is next. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. NFL season is here. NBA season is here. 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So this is, I'm recording on Wednesday night, October 14th. On Tuesday night, October 14th, Wednesday is the 15th. On the 16th, Thursday, the new season of the starting five begins. You have Jaylen Brown along with Kevin Durant, Shay Gilder Alexander, Tyrese Halbert and James Harden. It is fascinating. I've started watching it. It is fascinating. So I got a chance to talk to the director, one of the directors, Tristan Williams. Here's my conversation with her. First of all, so happy to talk to you. This is a very exciting time. Celtics fans get to see a second episode, a second version of this with another one of their superstars. So keep it a little Celtic centric to start. Like, what were your impressions of Jaylen Brown? What do you think Celtics fans can expect from the Jalen Brown portion of this?
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Tristan Williams
I think first off, when you do a show like this in a magnitude, you coming off of them being the champs and so now they're defending champs and everybody is gunning for them and then coming from, you know, when they just won, he was mvp, so it was only right for us to include him into the cast. It's very nice because then the rest of your cast have something to seek. Now you have somebody that you're trying to over overcome. You're trying to take them down. When you think about Jalen, I think the fans are going to get a real. He's so somber what the fans say or you don't know much about him, but you're going to learn like he has personality. He is very, he's a real thinker. So everything that people think like, oh, he's into school. He is. And I think that's the beautiful part about it because it's like, well, can you be a basketball player and can you be a true thinker in that magnitude? And like he can, like he's amazing. And you're going to learn that when it comes to the financials, he's very smart about his financials and how he goes about things. I don't want to give any specific spoiler alerts, but it's one of those, like, okay, I can learn a thing or two from this man and how he. How he worked his career in the trajectory that he's on.
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John Corrales
What's the challenge? You know, you've got. Look, I'm behind the scenes too, you know, covering the team, and I see cameras all over the place, and you just never know who's with who and all that stuff. What's the challenge of. Of not only chronicling an NBA player throughout the entire course of a season, road trips, practices, workouts, private time, all that stuff, but then distilling it down to the few episodes that you have and being able to properly convey who knows how many hundreds of hours of video that you have.
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Tristan Williams
The challenge there is, you're watching a lot of footage. Hit the chopping block, right? And so you can't be married to anything because it's so good. But you have to stop, stick to the themes and what helps drive story, weave through all of the players. So what makes that easy is because chronologically, they're all on the same schedule. So that's how you marry. Like, if you know, he gets to play get Shay, then it's nice because you start with someone's story, you weave out of that story to the next person's story. So if you simplify it and pull away from all of the cameras, and this is why you have such a big team behind the scenes. So thank you to our entire team. You know, you have a million story producers as this footage is coming in and breaking this stuff down. And how does this world marry with this world? And how can we make it make sense? It's about being very meticulous and organized. The challenge in the field, when you're dealing with all those cameras, it's not a challenge for me, but because I think it comes from just having respect, that everyone has a job to do and not trying to overpower and trump other people, but just be there and get what you need and understand that everything. You gotta, like, let the noise go, and you gotta stay focused to what the goal is that day.
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John Corrales
So are you guys just good or how lucky are you? You had Shea, you have Jalen, obviously. I mean, it's easy to pick Jalen, I guess, because, like you said, they won a championship. But, like, you, you're picking. You picked two guys who were in Game 7 of the NBA Finals together. I mean, at what point is this going on, you guys? Oh, my God. We might actually get from day One to the literal final day of the NBA season. At some point, you guys look at each other and go like. Like a high five. Like, I can't believe we got this.
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Tristan Williams
You know, we're. We are that good. But we also call it TV magic. And kudos. It's an entire team creatively, when you're going through the process to add people, right? So we're getting lucky. I think we're lucky charms, but we're getting lucky in these spaces to have two players. You have to understand, when Tyrese Halliburton started, his season wasn't going so great. So actually, we were like, oh, my goodness, how do you deal with that? Right? And. But then as a storyteller, you love the Es and flows, and kudos to Sammy, who was directly over Halliburton, but the ebbs and flows there. When you have such a hard time and then it's a roller coaster and you find yourself at the top of the hill once it's all said and done and the world gets to be with you through the process, behind the scenes and your real thinking, I mean, it's magic. It's magic. So I think we're just getting lucky. We're not. We don't have any real science behind it. No one's giving us any. Like, hey, you didn't get the NBA.
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John Corrales
Script ahead of time?
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Tristan Williams
No, no. No scripts. And so you see all the stuff on social media, somebody's giving them something like power. How do you make that happen? Honestly, we feel so honored because we, like, you know, this is TV magic. And we are just very, very lucky that two of our players actually found themselves in the finals together.
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John Corrales
It is. It is kind of funny to see all that from the. From the Boston perspective. Jalen's season, the. The injuries and all of that. How do you manage telling the story of a guy who publicly, when I'm asking him questions. Knees good. The knees good. Behind the scenes, you're telling the story of. He's limping, he's hurting. You can tell that he's in pain. Like, what's the balance there?
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Tristan Williams
The balance is getting trust right. And whatever they're displaying to the world or not, it's our job to document it. It's not our job to, like, spoil anything. So you're watching a person who is a warrior, and when you watch the show, you'll understand why he's such a warrior and that. That upbringing, who was in his family, who's pushed him to think this strong. And so when you're a Champion. And when you are a real contender and you want to play, you're not going to tell anybody anything more. So, like, if you're telling your competitors, hey, this part of me hurt, they're going to go after you harder in that area. So it's actually very smart to not let the world know where you're lacking, because it's just going to make your job harder.
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John Corrales
You guys get pushback. Like, I. I saw. I got a little bit of an advanced screening, and this is. This is, I think, is in the trailer. So I'm not giving anything away. You know, James Harden talking about his girlfriend. He's like, why did I sign up for this? Is there any, like, massaging? Like, halfway through that, you go, hey, whoa, whoa. You did sign up for this. Come on, let's. Let's bring it back. Come on, a little bit.
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Tristan Williams
It's so funny that you say that. You know, everybody want to give pushback, and it's my job to do a great job to get them to trust me and to say, whatever that. Whatever we found, we're going to display that in the greatest respects. Right? And so there is apprehensiveness. And this is what I love about James Story, because no one knows anything about this man his entire career. So for him to sign up and be willing at this phase to say, I'm going let it all out, I feel very honored that he did that. So is there pushback? They get a little, you know, a little scared, and it's. It, you know, when you're being vulnerable. But then I get them to understand, this is why you're here. But trust us, we're going to do the edit so well. That is. It shouldn't be a fallout from anything. And when he said that moment, like, I don't know why I signed up for this. It's funny because I'm asking all these questions, and it's like, oh, my God. Goodness, look at. Okay, here we go. So it's a really. It's a really good moment, and I love it. James Harden is. He's a rock star, and we loved having him.
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John Corrales
I. I am, like, it's. I think maybe the most surprising thing I've seen so far is. Is James Harden saying, I'm really in love. Like, really? James Harden, Mr. Party Guy. Okay. All right. So that's. That's an interesting little early dynamic. It is funny because when I first heard the lineup, I was like, well, I'm probably just going to skip past the James Harden stuff. And you immediately, like, okay. No, I'm gonna go very deep into, like, I'm invested now. I'm invested.
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Tristan Williams
That's the thing. Right. It's. It's the job to pull the curtains back. And a lot of the questions. As a great storyteller, you're answering questions that the audience or people have had for decades. Right. So that's her job is to get there and to peel that onion and really dive and dig deep and get you to express something that you've never expressed. Expressed to the media everywhere. So he's actually one of my favorite stories, too. I love all of their stories, but he's one of my favorite.
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John Corrales
You. How much of a competition is social media in all of this? Like these. I feel like nowadays it's a battle because guys feel like they can control their own narrative. Why. Why do I need to tell you anything? Why do I need to like that? It certainly applies to me when they. It's. It's a very, very guarded thing.
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Tristan Williams
Yes.
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John Corrales
You talk about trust. These guys, they trust very few people and they have their own outlets. Jalen Brown right now is probably still. He's like on a 24.7twitch stream at this point. It's crazy to see how much he's opened up on his own.
- [34:13]
Tristan Williams
Yes.
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John Corrales
What's the challenge there of. I know you've got all this, but you got to trust me to tell your story.
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Tristan Williams
It's a part of reputation. Right. I have a great reputation of your favorite producer, and I did not give myself that title. The world gave it to me. And I think that trust factor comes from being vulnerable, honest about your own life and then a body of work to say, okay, I know you don't operate in this manner, so I'm going to trust you right now, this very moment. And then. And it comes from their teams. Let's give their teams credit. There's a few real vetting process before you start filming and talking about everything and how we're going to go about it and how we're going to film it and try to keep a skeleton crew where you don't have a million people in your home at one time. The cool thing I think about that a lot of those intimate moments is it could be me actually behind the camera filming. Right. And so if you have that person, you already have a great relationship with me. So if I'm filming you and I'm just asking you questions, you're going to your guard and sound, you're just talking normal and that's where you get that trust.
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John Corrales
All right. Let's wrap this up on back. Let's finish up on Jalen Brown.
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Tristan Williams
Okay.
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John Corrales
Without giving away anything, this is. We'll. We'll call this a tease.
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Tristan Williams
Okay, what's your cliffhanger?
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John Corrales
Yeah, let's give people your favorite part. Maybe your favorite thing you've learned about jail, and you got a little bit about it before, but, like, a thing that when fans see it, maybe they're gonna be like, oh, wow, didn't really understand that about Jalen.
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Tristan Williams
The fans will learn that. What you don't know is he's a real, real family man, and that goes first. That comes first. And. And you'll see why. It's a lot of things that happen behind the scenes, and he takes his family very serious.
- [36:03]
John Corrales
Okay, well, we're looking forward to that. This is. This is going to be great. Like I said, I've seen the first almost through episode two, so lots of. Lots of good dynamics. You know, it starts out with Tyrese Halliburton. You know, the first one of. The first thing you see is Tyrese Halliburton crying. Like, I'm like, that's what I wanted to see behind the scenes with the injury. You got Shea winning a champion, like, agony of defeat, thrill of victory, the old ABC wild world of sports. I mean, that's your starting point. And then you throw James Harden in love and Jalen Brown, you know, doing his thing. So it's going to be a lot of fun. So thank you so much for taking some time out to talk about this.
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Tristan Williams
Thank you for having me, John. It was such a pleasure. These questions were fun, fun conversation there.
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John Corrales
With Tristan again October 16th. That is Thursday. The new season of Starting Five debuts on Netflix with Jalen Brown along with Kevin Durant, Shay Gilders, Alexander, Tyrese Halliburton, and James Harden. It is fun. Super interesting. Remember, Jalen goes through a lot with his family, with himself, obviously, the, you know, getting all the way to the playoffs and Jason getting hurt and all that stuff. It's all in there, so check it out on Thursday. Thank you for watching the Lockdown Celtics podcast. Thank you for listening to the Lockdown Celtics podcast. Really do appreciate you being with me every Monday through Friday. Bonus podcasts when they play in the weekends, so make sure you're subscribed. The show is everywhere. Get into the comments section, share your thoughts, and then share the podcast. Tell everybody they should be listening to and watching the Lockdown Celtics podcast here on the Lockdown Podcast network. It's your team every day.