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Celtics LEGEND Robert Parish on Tatum and Brown, His Childhood, Bill Walton, Love For Boston
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Boston Celtics legend Robert Parish opens up about overcoming challenges on and off the court, celebrating the resilience that shaped both his career and the current Celtics team. From Jayson Tatum’s Achilles recovery to Jaylen Brown’s emergence as a leader, John Karalis of Celtics On SI and Robert Parish discuss what fuels Boston’s championship mindset and how Brad Stevens and Joe Mazzulla have set the tone for a “reload” season instead of a rebuild. Get personal with Robert Parish as he reflects on his unique friendship with Bill Walton, his upbringing, and his honest thoughts on navigating life in Boston given its complex history. Candid stories about past missteps, the lessons learned, and the unconditional support from Celtics fans round out this powerful conversation. Don’t miss this inside look at the spirit, humility, and heart behind one of the NBA's most storied franchises.
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Robert Parish
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John Corrales
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John Corrales
on the Lockdown Celtics Podcast, an interview with Robert Parish, Celtics legend, Hall of Famer, on his childhood, his love for the city of Boston and his amazing friendship with Bill Walton. Locked on Celtics pot, Home of the winners hey, welcome back to the Lockdown Celtics Podcast right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. Word is your team every day your team is the Boston Celtics and I talk about them every Monday through Friday, bonus podcasts on weekends, plus during the week whenever I feel like one is necessary. So make sure you're subscribed. Watch the show on YouTube, get into the comments section. Share your thoughts with me. I'm John Corrales. I'm a beat writer covering the Celtics for Sports illustrated Celtics on SI. I've been covering the team for about 20 years now. I've been doing this podcast for 10. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. FanDuel is giving you a way to turn your college basketball energy into bigger potential wins with a college basketball parlay profit boost. Head to FanDuel.com to get started. FanDuel.com FanDuel play your game I'm honored for to have the legendary Robert Parish on today's show.
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Robert Parish
I am.
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John Corrales
I grew up on 80s Celtics. This is a very special chance to talk to Robert Parish who is promoting his new book The Chief, he's going to be in Boston for several stops. March 17. Tuesday in Acton, Wednesday at the pro shop at TD Garden for two signings. That's ahead of the game Wednesday night against the, uh, Golden State Warriors. Thursday in Nashua at Balin Books, Friday in Wellesley at Wellesley Books. So if you want to get a chance to meet the Chief and get a signed copy of his book, go check him out there. This is a wide ranging interview that deals with a lot of the stuff that's not necessarily known, not necessarily basketball stuff, because we all know those stories. So let's just dive into it. Here's my conversation with Robert Parish. Parrish, welcome back to the show. You probably don't remember, but we actually spoke to you like eight years ago. So repeat guest, Robert Parrish. So, so happy to have a Celtics legend on today. Let's, if you don't mind, let's start with Jason Tatum. Yeah, I want to get your thoughts on Jason Tatum coming back from in Achilles tear. That back when you played, when somebody tore an Achilles, that was, that was like a basketball death sentence, wasn't it?
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Robert Parish
Pretty much minimum two years before you're fully recovered and fully back to form. But very thankful with the new technology. Not to mention Jason has youth on his side also, so they help with the rehab. And so I am happy that it was short. I think it was about nine or 10 months from his tear to him being back on the floor. So I was very happy to see that. One thing we need to all remember when you're rehabbing a significant injury is the mental rehab. Yeah, you got to trust your body again. You got to gain confidence in your body. And so any little thing that don't feel quite right, you know, that question mark is in the back of your mind, am I going to have a setback or they're going to be a problem? So I was happy to see that. It appears that Jason has talking not only physical rehab, but the mental rehab also.
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John Corrales
Yeah, that I think he has talked about that. The most important thing was just feeling comfortable back out there. How do you do that as an elite athlete? How do you conquer that mental part? Because you've always been so confident in yourself. You always have like the utmost kind of, you know, you're capable of doing anything and then all of a sudden your body kind of fails you. You've gone through some injuries in your time. How do you, how do you get back to that point? Or does that confidence that you've had just carry you through?
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Robert Parish
Well, as you May or may not know. Confidence comes from competing at a high level in a competitive environment. And that in that competitive environment is game situation. So competing in the game is where you get your confidence back. Practice is one thing. Playing in the game is totally different. So in a competitive atmosphere, that's where you get your confidence from. And when you get positive results in a competitive atmosphere, that's when you regain your confidence. Because Jason can practice against his teammates, he can practice one on one, but until he gets in a game situation and his body does not fail him, that's when you regain the confidence.
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John Corrales
Looking at this Celtics team, when, when you're on a team that has, you know, Jason's out, you know, people expected him to miss. Some people expected him to miss the whole season. The team itself was kind of counted out. When you're on a team where, you know, the outside noise is, you don't have it this year. This is a. They talk about the gap year. What does that do for you as, you know, as a player? Do you hear it? Do you hear that noise? Do you use it as fuel? How does that, how does that kind of motivate you guys? How does that motivate you as a player when you hear other people doubting you like that?
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Robert Parish
First of all, in my opinion, the best way to shut up your critics, the naysayers, the second guessers, prove them wrong. And that's exactly what the Celtics have done. Proved everybody wrong. Also. It starts with the coaching. Coach Missoula, first of all, and let's go a step up higher. Brad Stevens. I like the architect, the toughness, the mental and physical toughness that started with Brad Stevens on down to Coach Missoula. And the team reflects that toughness, that mentality. First of all, I like the fact that they did not look at this season as a rebuild, as a recalibration. We just gonna keep it going. We just. Next man up. Forgive my. My repetitiveness with that slogan. Next man up. We not. We not. We're not rebuilding. All we doing is reloading. And I like the fact that the team has displayed that mental and physical toughness because collectively they have stepped up with Jalen Brown leading the way. And by the way, he's having a all star MVP type season thus far. Incredible what he has done in terms of leadership. Impressive.
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John Corrales
Yeah, he's been, he's been great. You know, can you speak to that? Because, you know, you. You played on a team where, you know, you have Larry Bird and everybody looks at Larry Bird, but you're a Hall of Famer. Kevin was hall of Famer. You had a bunch of great guys on that team. Do you, do you. If some, if something happens to Larry, right, You know, people go, oh, no. Right. If something happens to Jason, people go, oh, no. But you got a bunch of good players on that team and guys who are capable. Can you speak to that? As far as, you know, being on a team with that one guy that everybody looks at, but you're also like, hey, hey, I'm, I'm here too, man. Look, I'm pretty good. I was pretty good coming into this league. I'm very capable of doing a lot here to kind of carry us through. Right. We're not, we're not screwed here.
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Robert Parish
We, we have lost Larry a significant amount of time. I think he got his eye socket cracked and we missed him for a while. He has some vertical, has some back issues, vertebrae issues. He's miss a significant time. We just stepped up. That's all we did. Kevin and Larry, Kevin and myself led the way while Larry wasn't there. Dennis Johnson, all of us, we just stepped up. You're not going to replace a talent like that, like Jason Tatum or Larry Bird, but what you do collectively, you can get it done. And that's, and that's how we address the, that tremendous loss. We did it collectively. Everybody do your job. And that's what the today's Celtics are displaying right now. Everybody is doing their job.
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John Corrales
Much more coming up with Robert Parish, including his childhood, his parents, who set him up very well for life. Interesting stories about his time in San Francisco when we come back. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. College basketball is non stop. Big games, tight spreads, momentum swings. Every single night. Everybody's watching college basketball. After the game against the Wizards, the Celtics were watching college basketball in the locker room. And now FanDuel is giving you a way to turn all of that energy into a bigger potential win with a college basketball parlay. Profit boost. You can build any college hoops parlay you want. Anything you want. Rivalry games, ranked matchups, however you want to do it. You can mix spreads, totals, player props, and match how you see the slate playing out. You can apply the profit boost and instantly bump up the potential payout. Go safe, go bold. It's your parlay. So if you want to ride with the team you've been following all season, go ahead. Now you've got more upside behind it. Head to FanDuel.com to get started. That's FanDuel.com when you sign up, they will ask you to set a limit, set a budget. Please do so. Use the tools that they have available to you so you can gamble responsibly. Only set that limit at what you can afford to lose at FanDuel. Play your game. Today's show is also brought to you by Indeed. Workplace chaos can get you down. That inbox is overflowing, can really stress you out. That makes hiring that one open position that makes it difficult because you end up just hoping that you find the right person. Indeed Sponsored Jobs is going to help you out because they will go out and find you. The people that check all of your boxes, the skills, the experience, the location. You set that up, they will go pull those people in. So when it's time to start interviewing, you know you've got a good crop of people there to choose from in this minute that I'm going to be talking to you here. 27 people will be hired on Indeed Worldwide according to Indeed Data. So if you're hiring, spend less time searching and spend more time interviewing these candidates that check all your boxes. With Indeed Sponsored Jobs, you need the right person to cut through the chaos and you'll get a $75 sponsored job credit. To help you get the help, you get your job the premium status it deserves. Indeed.com podcast go to Indeed.com podcast right now. Let them know that we sent you so you can support the podcast. Indeed.com podcast terms and conditions apply. Need to hire. This is a job for Indeed Sponsored Jobs. Thanks for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. Would love to have you join the everydayer club. You're already an everydayer. You're with me Monday through Friday. You're listening to the bonus podcast. You want ad free audio. You want access to our live chat on the Discord server? Go to lockdown celtics.supercast.com you pay five bucks a month or 50 bucks for the year, and that's what you'll get ad free audio available on all major podcasting apps. If you use the code March, you'll get a month free. And if you sign up before March Madness starts, before the NCAA tournament tips off, you can get included in our everyday or club bracket pool on Discord for a chance to win Lockdown merchandise. So check it out. Lockdown celtics.supercast.com now back to the conversation with Robert Parish. This is a good place to to kind of get back into your history and what we're what we see in your book, the Chief the Memoir. First of all, what what Made you decide that you wanted to tell that story.
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Robert Parish
Now time is right. It felt right. Most people know about my basketball accomplishment from athletic perspective, but just to give a look through that window at the person, the character of who I am and what I am more personable. Look at myself. I do have a sense of humor. I do laugh, I talk trash like anybody else. I hurt, I cry, I get pissed off. I know I have this historic pensive demeanor about myself. But people that know me know I'm all, I'm always talking trash about something. I got something smart to say. And if you're not in, in that circle, you wouldn't know that. So I think the book kind of shines a light on my softer side, if you will.
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John Corrales
But we do, we do know you as the Chief, right? We do know you as, you know, stone faced. Just go out there, didn't say much. I'm sure there are some people who didn't even know what your voice sounded like for a long time because you just kind of, kind of stuck to your, you know, you kind of almost played the role. What, what made you kind of have, I don't want to say two personalities, but two distinct sides to your personality where you like, I'm the Chief, I'm just going to be this, in, in this situation. But people who know me know that I'm, you know, I like fun and all that other stuff.
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Robert Parish
Well, first of all, John, I'm not really person. I can come across it being distant and dismissive. I think that's one of the main reasons why my relationship with the Boston media is, will be delicate, if you will, and a lot of that is on me. I take full responsibility for that. Because I am distant, I come across as being dismissive and not a lot of people get to know me and that's because of me. As I said earlier, I'm really not a people person. I'm kind of on my own, do my own thing. Somewhat of a loner, if you will.
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John Corrales
Your upbringing you talked about, it's, it's interesting that you, you say you're not a people person because you talk about your parents being very progressive and you have instances in the book of having gone. Like when you were in San Francisco, you go to a gay pride parade and you know, you, you have been taught like, no, this is okay. This is all fine. These people are people. So you have this kind of like open attitude of like, yeah, man, everybody's, everybody's, everybody and whoever you love, who you love and all of that stuff. Which kind of lends itself to being almost a people person, you know.
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Robert Parish
Go ahead.
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John Corrales
No, no, you.
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Robert Parish
No, go ahead. I'm just gonna say what, what that going to the gay parade, what it did, it just reinforced what my parents always preached, preached to us. Just because people don't look like you, people don't act like you, there's still people, they're still a part of the human race. And for me it was more of a curiosity thing more than anything else. I had heard about the gay parade. I'd heard about their, their views and their different outlook on same sex personality. I just wanted to see it more than anything else. I was just curious about it. It's one thing to hear it. Yeah, it was a whole nother conversation to actually see two women, two men being affectionate with one another. And it's coming from the South. You can tell I was a newcomer. I had this awe. I had this awe look on my face, mouth open, eyes wide open. I was just taking it all in. It was one of the best experiences of my life. Just to be around it, in it, to experience it, and I was welcome. They didn't know who I was. I didn't feel threatened, I didn't feel intimidated. I was just a tall person in the crowd and that's the way it should have been.
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John Corrales
That is an amazing kind of attitude to have, especially when you're talking about like probably, you know, yeah, coming from the south, it's, it's, it's not the most liberal place in the world, but you're, you know, you're being taught to kind of be open and understanding. I love the way you put it. People are people and you know, it's, we're all part of the human race. And that, and that kind of carried you through into Boston where you do mention in the book the, the race relations, the race history. You talk very fondly of Bill Russell and his example that was set. How did that, how did that attitude kind of prepare you for what was happening in Boston? What did you experience in Boston off the court?
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Robert Parish
My, I, I think first of all, my mindset, my look on life in general. I have to thank my parents. My parents were very forward thinking. When you think about the era, John, that they were raised in and for them to be open minded and to be all inclusive and not be prejudiced or racist or whatever you want to call it, I think it's a testament to them because they have always advocated treat everybody the same. And when it looked like I was going to be a star in the basketball community. They always preach to me, do not treat people differently because more people know who you are. We all the same. Don't look down on anyone. Don't think that anyone is less than you are. And that really helped prepare me for going to California and then from California to Boston because people got to realize in Boston. Mr. Russell told me this and also read all back, echoed it and co signed it the reality. Or should I say the perception. Let me get it right. The perception is totally different than reality. Boston is perceived as being segregated, being isolated, being intolerant, non inclusive. Just the opposite. At least it's been my experience.
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John Corrales
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John Corrales
thank you for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen. Every day we've got a lockdown podcast for every NBA team. Or if you want a football, baseball, hockey podcast, we got those all covered too. Whatever your favorite teams are, check them out in the Lockdown podcast network, wherever you found this podcast. Now, let's wrap up our conversation with Robert Parish. This. This is kind of what the natural progression is. Is your friendship with Bill Walton where you couldn't have. Aside from being tall basketball players, I couldn't imagine two more opposite people seemingly on the outside being best friends. But you have spoken so fondly about Bill Walton. How did you become friends with Bill? How did that evolve? And I mean, I just can't imagine the joy of spending significant time. I spent, probably I spent one afternoon with Bill Walton for a function, and I was like, this is just the most amazing thing. People should. People should be able. Everybody should get four or five hours with Bill Walton. You get so much more time. Can you just explain how that relationship came about? How did you meet and how did it blossom?
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Robert Parish
How it all started when Red first pursued Bill Walton to be a member of our team. Once he met with Red and ownership, the next place he wanted to go was to my house. He came to my house and asked me did I have a problem with him joining the Celtics. And if I did, he told me he was not going to join the Celtics because he did not wanted to disrespect me and what I had done for the Celtics. And that's when our friendship started to blossom and grow. Because first of all, John, he didn't have to come to my house and ask me how I felt about it. I didn't have a voice in the decision making of who and who wasn't going to be on the roster. So that's where the respect and admiration. I don't call him Bill. I call him William. For William.
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John Corrales
Yeah, right there.
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Robert Parish
That day, right there. Where it all started. And I have never stopped loving him, respecting him, admiring him. And another thing I like about William, you never saw him when he was down in depressed. Even if he was, he never shown it. Always upbeat, always a great day to be alive, happy to be here. What a wonderful world. It is. Always upbeat, never negative. At least I never saw it. And that's one of the main reasons why I wanted William to be my presenter when I was inducted into the hall of Fame. Because that day he came to my house and asked me was it okay for him to join the Celtics. That is nothing but respect. So if he gonna respect me like that, I got to respect him like that because he didn't have to come at me like that. Yeah. And I. And I admire that about William.
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John Corrales
That's. That's incredible. Why. Why William? Why. Why are you the one that calls him William?
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Robert Parish
Well, Bill William, you know, it is me.
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John Corrales
Sure.
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Robert Parish
Like, I don't call. I don't call Cedric. Cedric. I call him Cedric. So that's just me. Added my little twist to it. That's all. Sure.
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John Corrales
I want to. I want to touch on a story that you share from your childhood where you stole a baloney. Can you share that story and how it shaped you at a young age?
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Robert Parish
I was picking up a few provisions for the family, doing a little light grocery shopping, and I took it because I could. That's why I stole. I had the money to pay for it. I just got the balloon and stuck it in. In. In my front of my pants. And you could see it looked like I had a hernia. Tell you how naive I was. You can see the birds in front of my pants. But what really resonated with me, how disappointed and embarrassed my family was that that's why I. I never stole anything again. There was a one time I stole something. My parents were so disappointed in me. And that. And that's something. There's only one other time did I feel like I disappointed my parents. Public humiliation, if you will, is the marijuana incident. Those are the two times that I feel like I let my parents down, I let my family down. I disappointed my family. Those two instances.
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John Corrales
The marijuana incident is touched on here, in fact, multiple instances of people talking about the marijuana. It's. It's so funny now that in 2026, I don't think anybody would care at this point. It was a big deal when it happened. I remember reading about it in the news. It was such a big deal back then. How did you. How did you process that? The. Because you mentioned it. Now, there's. It's one of the two places where you embarrass you. You feel like you embarrass your family. What did that. What did that do for you as far as your perception in the media? Did it impact you? Did it change how you saw things, or you just kind of, like, moved
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Robert Parish
on from it for the second time? John I realized what I do, what I say, it has consequences, not just for me, but everybody around me. Like with the marijuana, it wasn't all the negativity towards me, my teammates, the organization, the city of Boston, the NBA, not to mention my family, my friends. It involves a lot of people. That's why today I am conscious kind of sensitive to what I do, who I do it with, what I say, because of the consequences. It Affects a lot of people. It's not just about me. And, and I didn't really didn't get it with the baloney thing, but I got it with the marijuana thing because then I was able, I was older and able to sit back and look, man, my missteps affects a lot of people in a negative way. So I gotta, I gotta, I gotta. To this day, I got to be conscious of that.
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John Corrales
I don't want to take up too much more of your time. So let's, let's fast forward to. You've had this illustrious career. Obviously a Hall of Famer, obviously a Boston Celtics legend, is an. I don't know if it's an impossible question or an unfair question, but do you have a favorite moment, a favorite thing that happened or season or anything like that where when you think back, like, is there something that you think back to when you're reminiscing about the Boston Celtics, whether it's a game, a practice bus ride, is there anything that, that sticks out front of mind for you?
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Robert Parish
I would have to say I'm gonna give some love to the, the city of Boston. I was a little taken back. I was accepted, I was embraced because like I said, I had this perception, yeah, of Boston being like the south, segregated, racist, prejudice, whatever you want to call it. And I have, and I have been embraced. I have been endorsed, I have been supported. Even, even with the marijuana thing. Nobody treated me differently. I still got love. I still got appreciation. I still got the love. Boston has loved me, embraced me unconditionally. Regardless of my efforts, I still have gotten the love. So I am very appreciative. Nothing but love and support and appreciation for the city of Boston.
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John Corrales
Well, you're going to feel a lot of love this week because you've got five book signings. Tuesday, March 17, Acton at the Silver Unicorn Bookstore. Two book signings at the Pro Shop at TD Garden on Wednesday, Balin Books on Thursday in Nashua, Friday at Wellesley Books in Wellesley, Massachusetts. Plus, you'll be at the game Celtics and Warriors, won't you? You're going to be appearing at that.
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Robert Parish
I'm going to be at the Celtics warriors game and I'm also going to be at the Celtics Oklahoma City game.
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John Corrales
Also well guaranteed when they put you on the jumbotron, when you're going to feel that love again because I know the city of Boston loves Robert Parrish, member of the Big three, multiple time champion, hall of Famer legend Robert Parrish. I really do appreciate you spending a few moments with me. Thank you so much.
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Robert Parish
And thank you. I just want to say this one last parting words. I want to thank all my fans and all my haters for the love. Perfect. Perfect. I love it.
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John Corrales
I love the Chief. Unabashed fan here. I kept my fanboying in check. This is a legend. This is a Celtics legend, hall of Famer, part of the big three. He is an NBA, you know, one of the greatest of, of NBA history. It just, I can't say enough about Robert Parrish, but it's, it was great to have him and you have a chance to meet him too. Again. Tuesday in Acton at the silver unicorn at 7 o'. Clock. Wednesday at TD Garden at the Pro Shop at 4 and at 5:30. And Thursday in Nashua Balin Books at 7 o' clock and Friday in Wellesley at Wellesley Books at 4pm so go ahead, do yourself a favor, meet the Chief Robert Parrish. Get a signed copy of his book. Check it out. It's wonderful. It's so interesting because you, you get to see some of that personality that Robert's talking about. And it's, it's just, it's always interesting to see how these guys really are in person and not especially with the chief, the stoic kind of thing that he had going on. So thank you for listening. Thank you for, for watching. I do appreciate you being here for this special interview with the legend Robert Parish. Much more podcasting coming up about the current Celtics. I'm glad that he was able to chime in about that at the beginning. So thank you all for listening. Thank you all for watching. Now I would love it if you shared this episode especially tell your friends, tell everybody they should be listening to and watching the Lockdown Celtics podcast. Here on the Lockdown Podcast network, it is your team. Every day.
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