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Jaylen Brown DOMINATES, but Anthony Edwards ANSWERS, Celtics LOSE in Minnesota
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Boston Celtics squander double-digit leads in a frustrating loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Jaylen Brown dazzles with a 41-point showing, but are his heroics enough for a struggling roster? With Jayson Tatum out, the Celtics’ inconsistent supporting cast and questionable rotations leave Brown isolated—raising tough questions about Boston’s depth and offensive execution. John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal breaks down the highs and lows, spotlighting breakout performances from Brown and Neemias Queta, and examining the impact of Derrick White and Payton Pritchard’s shooting woes. Key talking points include poor shot selection, a costly disparity at the free-throw and three-point lines, and how Joe Mazzulla’s ever-changing rotations might hamper the squad’s chemistry. Can Boston find the right formula before facing tougher rivals like the Cleveland Cavaliers? Join the analysis of the Celtics’ mounting challenges and the urgency for reliable help in a tightly contested Eastern ...
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Celtics had it. They lost it and had it again and then lost it again. Jaylen Brown was awesome. This man needs some help, but he's probably not going to get it and I'll explain why on the Lockdown Celtics Podcast. Huh? Yup. Be town be ever ready. It's the seas. Who else could it be? What they gonna say now screaming like J.T. corralis recap the madness every game, every practice, prime time, Depp and D White on the sideline, Ren and Jace how it started raising Ben. That's how we finish. Locked on Celtics pod, Home of the winners. Welcome back to Lockdown Celtics Podcast right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network where it's your team every day and I talk about your team, the Boston Celtics, every Monday through Friday. Bonus podcast like this one. This is a bonus podcast because the Celtics played on Saturday night, lost on Saturday night. But I got you covered after every game, so make sure you're subscribed. Show is free. It's available Everywhere. It's on YouTube. If you're new to the show, I am John Corrales, beat writer for Boston Sports Journal. I've been covering this team in some form for 20 years. Been doing this podcast for 10 and I've written a couple of books about the Celtics as well. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. New customers, you get $5. You can get $300 in bonus bets when that first bet wins. So head on over to FanDuel.com to get started, the Celtics had this game. They were up by 12. They were down by 12. And then they tied it up, and then they lost. So the Minnesota Timberwolves beat the Celtics by four. We'll get into Jaylen Brown's help and why it's probably not coming later. I'm gonna do three seconds. Normally I'm a bonus podcast. I, I, sometimes I do like 10 minutes. Sometimes it'll be 20. This is a full podcast. I have a lot to say after this podcast and later on, it'll be about the help and why it's just so inconsistent and probably not coming and why some of that stuff is unfair. We'll get into the individual stuff. Jaylen Brown and Mishkeda, two big performances in their own way. Let's just start with the big story, the big thing, which is the tale of two halves for the Boston Celtics. The first half was fantastic. In fact, the beginning of the third quarter, it stretched into that. They were incredible. The shot making was insane at the beginning of this game. The first half of this game, they put up 69 points in the first half, 56% shooting, 41 from three was awesome. Second half, they scored 46 points on 36 and a half percent shooting, 29 from three. That is bad. That's a bad half. So they went from an awesome half to a bad half. The first half was kind of an efficient offense. Jalen Brown was cooking, man. He was cooking. And part of why the offense was working so great. And it wasn't just Jalen, but it was mostly Jalen. They did a couple of things. They were the killer whales in, in this one, they were attacking Mike Conley. They were attacking. They were going right after Rudy Gobert, and they, they were getting kind of whatever they wanted. The, the Mishkeda success going at Gobert was, was really good. I mean, they really capitalized on when he was dropping into, you know, like that deep drop coverage like he likes to. They, they have him do because he's protecting the rim. That's. They took advantage of that. Jaylen Brown was just crushing from the mid range. When he came up to the level of the screen, Kata was rolling back door, and, and they hit him and they, they made him pay. The problem is the Celtics got away from that. And I have to go back and look. I want to see that second half, how they were being maybe defended differently. I know that the, the, the Timberwolves went with different, different looks and, you know, maybe Jaden McDaniels had something to do with it and, and how Jalen was being guarded. But they, they had everything working the way they wanted it to work. And then in the second half, the, the third quarter started with a roll, like a pick and roll. Jalen hit Keda when Gobert came up and Kada rolled down the right side and went in for the, the dunk. And I was like, man, these guys are getting anything. It's whatever they want. They're getting it right now. And then it kind of went away. And that I think caused the, the entire, the entire thing to start crumbling and they were missing shots. I don't think they were getting the same quality shots. The Timberwolves starting hitting shots and that was, that was a big reason why things started to change. The 12 point deficit was entirely in the third quarter. It was entirely by the difference in three pointers. At one point the Timberwolves were up by 12 and they had hit four more three pointers than the Celtics in that quarter since it was tied. So obviously like the difference right there is 12 points just from the three point makes. The Timberwolves ended up making 21 of 48 from three and the Celtics were 16 of 46. That right there. So you lose by four and you have that huge a difference in the three point margin. That that's going to be, that's going to be part of the problem, right? That, that's going to give you a real uphill battle. The Celtics took 96 shots in this game. That's, that's something that Joe Missoula is going to love. Like that part is good. The timberwolves only got 83, so the Celtics ended up making more baskets, 45 to the 41. That Minnesota made the difference in this game is the three point line where Minnesota hit five more three pointers and the free throw line where Minnesota hit seven more free throws. So the Celtics not only got five fewer, which is not a big deal, like, but 15 free throws was not a lot and nine makes. Now Jalen Brown was upset after the game because he took 32 shots and a lot of them were mid range, but only four free throws, which is it? It's a big disparity. He continues to be upset about this. I, I still say, look, I, I said it on the podcast the other day, but when he went on to his live stream on Twitch and started like spewing a whole lot of stuff about refs and like going down some conspiracy theory stuff with certain guys get certain calls and they, they don't want this and they Want that and all of that stuff. Don't tell me that the refs don't see that stuff and the league didn't find him. And, and so now I think that Jalen is, is kind of reaping what you sow, right? It's that meme. It's like when you're sowing, it's like, hell yeah. And then when it's time to reap what you sow, it's like, oh man, this sucks. And this is what's happening with Jalen. I think that there's some of that for sure now. Some of it is also he takes a lot of mid range jumpers. That's the thing that he's, he's known for doing now he's in that mid range. He's shooting like 52, 53% in that mid range. He's shooting 55 on step backs. He's taking and making a lot of step back three pointer. I mean, not three pointers, but some three pointers but step back jumpers and you don't get fouled on a lot of those. So I don't expect him to be up at like Shay Gilgis Alexander levels. But I do think there are a couple of plays where he's getting hit and he probably has a point but should have kept your mouth shut. Should have kept your mouth shut. And the, the more you talk about it, it's not going to help anything. It's just not. But knowing Jaylen Brown, he is probably going to be like, you know what? That's going to make me want to talk even more. He's going to be like, yeah, like if, if me. Like the last thing that Jaylen Brown, I think as a human being wants to do is sit back and capitulate, you know, like, oh, the refs want to like hold this power over me. You know what? No, I'm going to talk more and if I get zero free throws a game, then I'm going to bring it up and I'm going to make it a whole big thing. I'm going to make it an issue and I'm going to put the spotlight on them. Now I'm just kind of like projecting. I'm not so sure that he would ever think that. But I've been around Jaylen Brown a lot. I've seen his personality. I would not be surprised if he's sitting there saying, like, you know what? I'll sacrifice my free throws to make this a big deal. So whatever this is, it needs to end like, you know, like I don't want this to become that. I want Jalen Brown to go to the free throw line a normal amount of times and be done. So I don't like where this is going with the constant back and forth and getting calls, not getting calls or anything like that. But I don't want people to think like, I. I'm. I'm complaining about the refs. I don't. The officiating had nothing to do, I think, with the result of this game. Although, shout out to Joe Missoula, who, you know, on the play where Derek got, you know, Dante DiVincenzo, I think it was kind of. He bumped him, Derek fell, and Joe was like, yeah, you know, it was a nice tackle there. You know, it was first and 10. He got a nice tackle for a loss. You know, our offensive line's got to be better. It's a great line. It's a great line from Joe. Celtics vs. The refs is going to be a fun little side plot to all of this. But the reason why the Celtics lost is they got away from attacking offensively. The things that worked and that kind of dovetailed into a lot of missed shots. And the missed shots lead to runouts and in transition opportunities. And all of a sudden, the Timberwolves are. Are cashing in on second chances, which they weren't able to do in the first half. And it kind of, you know, obviously Anthony Edwards gets going. He had an awesome game. 39 points, 12 of 24 shooting, 10 of 11 from the line. Oh, Anthony Edwards gets the line 11 times. How about that? But, yeah, that. Look, the Celtics getting away from things that worked is. Is the biggest issue. 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That's a great place to join your fellow Celtics fans. I love seeing those threads showing up, people replying to one another. Make it a home for where you want to go. Communicate with other Celtics fans. All right. Individual performances in this game has to start with Jalen Brown. 41 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 5 steals. No one in the history of the Boston Celtics has put up those exact 41. Six rebounds, seven assists, five steals. No one's done that. If you do 45, five, five, you just put the sliders back a little bit. Larry Bird's done that. So in all of, like we talk about Jason Tatum doing stuff that only Larry Bird has done, let's give Jalen Brown, like, Jalen Brown's gotten the, the primary handling, primary responsibilities, and now he's doing something that only Larry Bird has done. In fact, Larry Bird has never done this exact thing. I love moving the sliders. We do that all the time. We love doing that. You know, plug these numbers in like, oh, nobody but great game. Great game. From Jalen. 17 of 32, 53%, 45% from three. Only two of four from the, the free throw line is what it is there. 4 Turnover is not a big deal there. So what more can you say, man? Jalen. Jalen's out there dancing. I, I was joking around on Boston sp where I said if he wants to promote his shoes a little bit better, just partner with, partner with Arthur Murray and sell him his dancing shoes. He, he's out there doing like, he's doing James Harden stuff. He's like that little tick tock dribble between his legs, little step backs, amazing stuff. Like, this was just a Jalen in his bag completely in this game. Followed closely behind by namish Korea high, 19 points. That ties a career high 18 rebounds, eight of those offensive rebounds, a couple of blocks, just right place, right positioning. He has improved incredibly. No doubt about it. He's, you know, even those little things that I still look at and say, I don't like this, but it's not, it's not doing what it used to do. The little, those little things that I used to say, okay, this is. Making him do this, this is bad. That's. He's, he's kind of getting through those. I think he's, he's starting to learn how to play as Nimiuskeda, you know what I mean? Like, he's. Okay, so he's a little awkward. He's a little funny. He's. He's. I, I don't think he moves in the smoothest way out there. But before, I think that that used to cost him. Now he's just kind of rolling with it and, and he's, he's better. He. So this is, this was a really good game. And what else can you say? 19 points, 18 rebounds? Can't argue with 19 points and 18 rebounds. So Neemi. Neemi was. Was really good. Shout out to Sam houser for the 14 points on 4 of 10 shooting from 3. Still not consistent like crazy, but any kind of shooting that, like, you're just looking for these guys to start stacking up these shooting nights. Sam, they need Sam to. To start stepping up here and getting consistent shooting. Same with Derek, staying with Peyton. So 19 points for Derek, nine for Peyton. Pritchard. Pritchard goes 4:14, 1 of 8 from 3. Derrick White 6 of 16, 2 of 8 from 3. So 10 of 30 overall from these two guys. 3 of 16. Even though Derek did hit one as part of a 12, 0 run. Celtics were up by 10 at halftime. They were down one or two after three. They were down 12 at one point in the fourth quarter. As soon as they fell down 12 big time run, 12, 0 run to tie it back up. Then Mike Conley hits a three after being targeted all night. Mike Conley turns around and hits a three. That breaks the tie. And then Anthony Edwards hits the dagger. But Derrick White did hit a three in that. In that stretch. So that. That part was good, but he's still. This is inconsistent here. And this will. This will bring us into. In a minute. The. The next segment. Where's Jalen Brown's help? These are the two guys that need to step up and help Jalen on a consistent basis. At the same time, it's hard for them to do that because you've got guys like Josh Minot, who in the third quarter, had a stretch in the third quarter that was really good, but then he had some. Some real kind of not great stretches, which I'll talk about in the next segment. Luca Garza played five minutes in this game. Five minutes. Is that really. Yeah, five minutes, one shot, which was a three, but that was it. Jordan Walsh got into foul trouble, played 20 minutes, didn't really play much in the second half, got a. Got a fourth foul early in the third quarter, and that was it. Jordan did nothing even though he started. I think it's the seventh, seventh straight game starting. Not great. Not a great game for him at all. Anthony Simons, where was he in this one? Five points, two of four. Where's the help? Where's the help? That's. That's the question here. You look at these performances. You need something from Jordan. You. You need something from Simons. You need. Definitely need something from Simons. You need something more from Minot. Baylor Shireman had a good first half, but overall, you know, just three points. But in the second quarter. His second quarter stretch was like the same as the second quarter stretch against Detroit where he comes in and the game changed completely at the beginning of the second quarter. He didn't do anything after that really, but he was good in that stretch. But you know, nothing, no, no. Gonzalez, he didn't play. Amari Williams, after being intriguing, he didn't play. Jalen Brown did a lot. 41 points. And that's, he just didn't get enough help. You can't rely. You're not going to get 19 points a game from Namishkada. You're, you're not. He did a great job crashing and had some crazy put backs, catching an air ball, all that crazy stuff. But you can't count on that. It's not going to happen on a daily basis. Pritchard and White have to be the guys, but can they be the guys? 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Thank you for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. You can check out Lockdown NBA Game night there seven days a week. Not a bonus podcast. That's just a podcast. Seven days a week Locked on NBA Game night covers the whole league. So go check that out wherever you get your podcast. Plus you get the Locked on NBA podcast, the weekly daily, sorry, daily Monday through Friday, covering all the big stories in the league. All right, Jalen Brown needs help and he's not getting it. And he might not get it, at least not for a while. So Jalen is doing like, he's having the most amazing season to start. Like it's, it's not December yet, so things can change. He's hitting 55% on step back jumpers. He shot 31% last year. He's been at like 33, 32, 38 the previous year. So in five years, this is a big, this is a big jump. So either this is like a huge, like improvement or there's some regression coming. So either way, either Jalen's doing all of this stuff and the Celtics are still 10 and 9 and he needs help, or there's a regression coming and Jalen's not going to be able to carry them as, as this. He's the 8th leading scorer in the NBA in terms of points per game. He's the fourth leading scorer in the NBA in terms of total points. How long can he keep this up? Even if he keeps it up the whole season, he needs help. Send help. Derek White's supposed to be that guy. Peyton Pritchard's supposed to be the next guy. Now part of it is their own inconsistency. We're, we're counting on you guys, right? That's, that's the counting on you guys to kind of help them out. And then some games they're shooting well and some games they're not at the same time. It's hard to be the second, third leading scorer when you've got all these other guys. You don't know who's going to be around you. Let's be honest here. Some nights you started out with Josh, starting now Jordan is starting. He's. He hasn't exactly been great. You had Amari Williams come in and you're playing with Amari Williams. All of a sudden, now you're not. Now Luca Garza's in. He was playing great. Now he's not. Kata was in. You know, he missed the game. But like the mishk, you're starting to figure that out. And then, you know, who, who's. Who am I playing? Oh, now we're going small. Now Josh Minot is the center. It's. Josh is. All of a sudden we're doing small ball, which I agree with. But you. We sit there and go, look at how the small ball worked. And let's do more of that. These guys haven't practiced small ball. How much. How much center has Josh Minot played in his life? Right. Maybe a little bit as a kid, probably because he's a big dude, tall, but he's not a center. He hasn't even played. Like he. He got to Boston because he didn't play in Minnesota. Now he's in Boston and they threw him in a small ball lineup and he's like, the Celtics are like, oh, that actually kind of worked a little bit. Let's keep doing that. So then you go to this game, and late in the. In the game, it was 96, 94 in the fourth quarter, and the lineup is Anthony Simons, Baylor Shireman, Peyton Pritchard, Sam Houser and Josh Minot. So Anthony and Peyton are your main guys, right? Those are your creators. Josh. I mean, Sam and Baylor are your spacers and Josh is your center. So Josh is running pick and roll. He's going to run pick and roll with Peyton Pritchard. Except he doesn't roll. Joe Mazzulla in that first thing in the clip, he's like, josh, go. And then Josh sets the pick and he goes, roll, Josh, roll. No roll. Then a couple seconds later, roll. And then Josh, like, looks at the bench. He's, like, confused. And then Joe says, roll, Josh. He keeps telling him, roll. And he just stands there. And then eventually he cuts. But then he cuts in the path of Peyton Pritchard. So Pritchard's trying to create. And the whole thing is blown up. And then you go down the other end. They turn the ball over. The Timberwolves turn the ball over, thankfully. And you see Joe very demonstrably say, pick, roll. And it's basic. But also, Josh isn't a center. So how basic is it? He's still learning that. He's still. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm a big. I gotta. You know, in this situation, I have to roll. I'm not popping. In this situation. What is Peyton Pritchard supposed to do? Clocks running down like, okay, I'm going up against. Was it Nas Reed, whoever is going up against a much bigger guy. And the whole play disintegrates. The whole thing gets clunky. Now at that point, is it. Whose fault is it? It's Josh's. Because he doesn't know what he's supposed to do. Can't figure it out. That's not what this team is built to do. This team. This team is. Brad Stevens put a bunch of guys together, and basically this is an 82 game episode of Chopped for Joe Missoula. He's like, oh, let's see. I got a Josh Minot and Baylor Sherman and Amari Williams. Like, how am I supposed to make this work? And we're all watching these games like, geez, why is this? Why doesn't this plate of food taste great? Why. Why doesn't this offense look good? And then we sit there and look at Derek White and be like, do something. And he's like, I'm trying. I'm trying. I want to so bad. And some of it is he needs to shoot better, for sure. There's. His responsibility. Is his responsibility. And it's like, we talk about killer whales. And I've. What I came up with on Boston Sports Journal was it's. It's not even the killer whale offense anymore. When it happens like this, it becomes the Border Collie offense because it's a couple of smart dogs out there. Derek White, Peyton Pritchard, and then a bunch of chickens, right? It's just a bunch of dudes running around. It seems like sometimes. And they're still not 100% sure where they're supposed to be. And the Border Collies are trying to, like, heard everything. You're like, no, we go this way. This is what we do. And then we look at the. You know, if a chicken runs off and gets, you know, picked off, we were like, hey, that's the dog's fault. Even Though they're, they're trying, they're trying. This is why the help is going to be so hard for Jaylen Brown. Because on top of like these guys having their own responsibilities, they have to have. They got different guys out there all the time. Who's in the corner? Okay, it's Sam, it's Baylor, it's Josh, it's Jordan. Different guys doing different things. One guy has a sense of timing of when to cut. One guy has no sense of timing when to cut. One guy wants to flare out, one guy wants to go baseline. Like it's, they're supposed to be making certain reads, but they also have their own level of instincts. They read the things a little bit differently. When they decide to go is like a hair different. And that throws up the, you know, throws off the offense. What I'm saying is Derek and Peyton, yes, they have to be better, but also it's so hard for them to be good because this team isn't built for them to, to be in their wheelhouse. And that's, you know, part of it. You know, my own mistake of evaluating what this was going to be, you know, heading into the season is I didn't take that into account. And I don't think a lot of people do that. Peyton and Derek and Sam and all these guys, it's still, it's still 19 games and maybe by game 29 or 39 these guys will figure it out. And it's kind of a testament it's to how good some of these guys are that they've floated at or above.500 for as much as they have this season. It's hard for them to be the type of help that they, they need to be for Jalen Brown. Jalen's awesome. Jalen has been amazing this season. There is the potential for some regression because he's just shooting out of his mind. The mid range shooting, the step back shooting is elite, elite, elite level. That's Kevin Durant stuff that he's doing. As the season rolls on, he's going to get tired. Is he going to start getting those little nagging injuries? It's going to take something off of his jump. It's going to, it's. Is it going to force an adjustment? Is he going to hit a little bit of a cold streak? Everybody does. This team just needs to figure it out there. I don't know if it's, I want to say it's like consistent rotations, but you can't even have consistent rotations because if Jordan sucks, then you can't keep playing him. You got to give Josh a chance, and if Josh sucks, you got to give Jordan another chance or Baylor's get it. Getting a chance. And each one of those guys is going to be great for a few games, and each one of them is going to suck in a particular game. You're like, well, I can't play him now. And you got to go with somebody else. And if somebody sprains an ankle like Neemi did, you throw in Amari Williams, like, all right, let's try this. And maybe it works and maybe it doesn't, but each game is going to be so different. It's not like last year, where you always knew, even when you plugged in a couple of different guys, there were so many guys out there that knew what they were doing. It was easy to kind of fix the one guy that's just straying a little bit. Had a very specific job. So much harder now. So we'll see. Tough loss for them. But losing to Minnesota, we all knew it was possible like that. That's. Minnesota's a good team. Even though they had the same record coming in. Minnesota is a good team and it's not going to get any easier. Cleveland Sunday, 6 o', clock, turn right around and play another great team. We'll see how. Now, the Celtics have already beaten Cleveland once, so we'll see how it goes. But that's. We'll see. We'll see some. Some of these games. These guys, all of these guys will put it together and they'll look great. And if. If Anthony and Josh and Baylor are playing well, then there's a good chance you're winning that game because you're not. Border collies herding chickens. The chickens are kind of like in line on their own, but if they're not, then better hope that Peyton and Derek are having great shooting nights and that they do need to be more consistent on that end, because if they're not, then you're not going to come all the way back. Like, the Celtics had a chance in this one tough loss. All right, I'll be back tomorrow after the Cavs game, so make sure you're subscribed. Thank you for being here, though. This podcast just flew by for me. It feels like I've been talking for five minutes, but been almost 35, so I'm going to wrap it up saying thank you very much. Make sure you're in the YouTube comments, give me your thoughts on that, and I'll see you after the Cavs game. 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