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Should Celtics BUY TD Garden? | Can Payton Pritchard Average 20? - Mailbag Monday
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Celtics Arena Shake-Up? TD Garden's Future and Tatum's Playoff Legacy John Karalis tackles burning questions in the new Mailbag Monday episode, answering questions about the Boston Celtics' potential arena changes and Jayson Tatum's postseason performance. The host breaks down Payton Pritchard's scoring potential, analyzes the team's minute distribution strategy, and explores Robert Williams' comeback. Karalis also weighs in on Yam Madar's Eurobasket showing and debates potential updates to TD Garden's in-game atmosphere. Tune in for expert insights on the Celtics' roster moves, player development, and arena experience as the team gears up for a championship run.
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We'Re opening up the mailbag to see if the Celtics should buy TD Garden. Why is Jason Tatum so underrated? And we break down the minutes that will be available this season right now on the Lockdown Celtics podcast. Huh? Be ever ready. It's the seas. Who else could it be? What they gonna say now? Screaming like JT Corralis Recap the madness every game, every practice, prime time. Jean D White on the sideline. Ren and Jace how we started raising banners. How we finish Locked on Celtics pod, home of the winners.
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Welcome back to the Lockdown Celtics podcast podcast right here on the lockdown Podcast network where it is your team every day. Your team is the Boston Celtics and I'm talking about them every Monday through Friday. We're back to that daily grind, so make sure you're subscribed. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch the show on YouTube. This show is free. It's available everywhere and you can leave your comments in that comment section on YouTube. Share your thoughts with me. I'm John Corrales, beat writer for Boston Sports Journal. I've written a couple of books about the team. Today's show is is brought to you by FanDuel. New customers. You can get $300 in bonus bets right now on FanDuel.com if your first $5 bet wins. So make it a good one because if that first $5 bet wins, 300 bucks coming your way. Today's show is a mailbag show. You can get those mailbag questions in@john corralis.com mailbag john corralis.com mailbag submit your questions. I'm answering them all season long. Do my best to get as many of these questions in. So let's just go get started with Zach who says, we've been talking about a lot of the Celtics buying, building a new arena. Zach says, would it be more feasible for the Celtics to just buy TD Garden instead of build a new arena? You know, I'm going to say no. The answer is no. It's not more feasible. It's. It's not very likely that they're able to do that. The, the problem is multi faceted here. Number one, it's not for sale and it's the biggest one. You'd have to make a monster offer to the Jacobs family, Delaware north, which owns it. They make a great business. I don't think the Bruins are going to want, because Jacob's family owns Delaware north and the Boston Bruins, I don't think they're going to want to rent their bill. Like, why would you sell your house that you live in just to turn around and rent it? Like, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So I don't think they're going to do that. But let's just say that they were. Maybe, maybe let's pretend that Jacob's family is pulling a Grousebeck family and they said, we're selling the team, we're selling the arena, we're getting out of the business altogether. We're just cashing on, cashing in all our chips. You sell the team separately and the arena separately, then maybe the Celtics can come in and buy it. But brings me to problem number two. Still going to be massively expensive and it's going to need updating. The building is 30 years old and we're getting to a point where they're gonna need something new anyway. And, and these buildings, there's nothing wrong with TD Garden. I, I'm in there all the time. The concourse looks great compared to other NBA arenas. I haven't been to the Intuit Dome, but I've been to the Chase Center. Chase center is its own, like massive monster, awesome thing. Fiser form is relatively new in Milwaukee, but it doesn't blow the TD Garden out of the water even though it's a newer building. So TD is, you know, in pretty good shape. It's been updated, I think, like the capacity is good. The seating is good, everything in there is good. But if you are building a new arena, you get to do it to your specs. You get to make it basketball first and then retrofit it for, you know, hockey. How do we, how do we modernize it? How do we make it so you can maximize the seating capacity? You get to kind of like make it your own. Building your own house from scratch again. Building your house from scratch versus buying somebody else's house. You know, a house that's old enough to need repairs and, you know, some remodeling and some freshening up. It's. I just don't see that whole thing happening. So in a way, though, considering how impossible it is to build something around there, it may still ultimately be more feasible to buy TD Garden, but I don't think, I don't think they're going to be able to do that. I just don't see it going up for sale. I don't see why the family would do that. Even if they sold the Bruins, you'd sell the Bruins and the building. Right? So unless, you know, unless this ownership group, Bill Chisholm, wants to pony up some dough and buy the Bruins and buy the building, that would be. I don't see that happening. I don't see that happening. It's not like he's Steve Ballmer. He, he's not, you know, the ultra rich. It took a long time to raise half the money to buy the Celtics. I don't think he's going to be able to raise the money to buy the Bruins and the building and all that. So. But hey, who knows? Who knows? If he had hit the powerball, he would have gotten halfway there. So. But no, I, I just don't see that being available. So moving on, Bo asks, you know, I've heard people say Jason Tatum is not very good in the playoffs. Why does he get so overlooked compared to other superstars? I don't understand where this not very good in the playoffs thing comes from. He's, he's been, he's been good in the playoffs. I, I don't think, I think part of the reason why Tatum is underrated or overlooked, he's, how do I put this? He's a great player. He's a first team all NBA player. I still think he's docked because he's not in the, he's not, he's not in the MVP conversation. Right? So it's, it's always Jokic, it's always, you know, Luca finds his way in. Giannis, you Know those guys, the, the. The top 1, 2, 3. You know, SGA obviously earned the MVP. Tatum has never really been a legitimate MVP type of player. He's always been fourth or fifth, and I think that's always been appropriate. And that makes him still one of the five best players in the NBA. But he's not in the argument for best player in the NBA. And I think it's interesting because we're going to have the. Locked on top 100, our own top 100 list coming out on Monday. And you'll see Tatum. I've seen the rankings, and you'll see Tatum is, is. And this doesn't take the injury into account. He's not seen as a, you know, just in terms of who the best players, regardless of position. I think it's just widely accepted he's. He's in the bottom part of your top 10 overall and not in the top two or three. So when he doesn't have a great playoff game, it. It's held against him. And I think it's held against him in a bigger. A bigger way. Another, Another reason why I think he gets overlooked is he's. He's been very willing, especially in the playoffs to, and especially in the past few years, to accept those double teams, to give the ball up, to really make that extra pass. He hasn't had to be Shay, Gilgis, Alexander. He hasn't had to be Nicola Jokic. Where you, when you talk about heliocentric Jokic, when Jokic is off the floor, everything craters. And the same thing kind of happens with the Celtics in a way, but also they've had Brown and Porzingis and Horford and Holiday and all those guys. So I don't think he plays a style that pushes him to that, that elite, like super ultra Elite top 1, 2, 3. He doesn't play that style. And, you know, I think, I think it's fair. I think it's a fair ranking to put him below those guys. I do think that's fair. He just, he's. He's not, he's not a force of nature. He's just an incredibly, you know, gifted basketball player. But he's not. He hasn't been like, you know, like, like I said, Jokic, Jokic does things that makes you go. Every game, you're like, how. How in the world did he do that? I rarely look at Tatum and say, oh, my God, how in the world did he do that? I just look at him being like, efficient, professional, does everything at a very, very high level. And you look up. You're like, man, that dude just put up 30 and 12. And those are, you know, incredible numbers. He's an incredible basketball player, but his, his game lacks that extra sauce that gets people excited. And so when you already have that opinion of him, you're like, yeah, you know, he's not, he's not this. You're like expecting Jokic to do special things. You're expecting Luca to do special things. And even if Tatum is better than some of the people that get mentioned ahead of him, those guys are, are. They do memorable things, you know, once or twice or three times a game, you're like, oh, my Lord, how did he just pull that off? And Tatum just consistently kind of on. What's the word I'm looking for there? Just not in a flashy way, just puts up those numbers. And so all of those things add up to when he has a pedestrian game, people go, see, see. And so that's just. It's a narrative. Don't worry about it. Right, Because Tatum is obviously an elite basketball player. The Celtics don't win championships. They're not contenders without Jason Tatum. He's already a Hall of famer in his mid-20s. He's already doing things that, you know, only Larry Bird and maybe a couple other people have done in the, in the Celtics history. He puts his name in that mix of the best in team history, and it's all for a reason. He's. He's an incredible basketball player. But it's okay to be an incredible basketball player and not like Nikola Jokic. But when it comes to narratives and why people overlook him, that's why we're going to come back to see if Peyton Pritchard could average 20 points a game. That is coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. Hey, football season is here. I'm sure Patriots fans are like, yeah, we don't care. We. It was not a great start to the season for the Patriots. But hey, if you want to make things a little bit more exciting, if you're a new customer, you want to head over to FanDuel.com place a five dollar bet. If it wins, you'll get 300 in bonus bets to use across the app. So make it a good one. Pick. 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Network thank you for making Locked on Celtics your first listen every day. Go check out Locked on NBA. Locked on NBA has two podcasts on that feed. Locked on NBA and Locked on NBA Game Night. I'm on game night on Fridays when the season starts. We will be covering all the games of that night. So check it out. Seven days a week, Locked on NBA Game Night. The afternoon Locked on NBA show has all the big stories. Whoops, wrong button. All the oh, you know, I've been having technical issues all day so. And that's why this is a little bit of a later drop on a Sunday night. But sorry about that. So anyway, lockdown NBA. Go check it out wherever you get your podcasts. Let's get back to the mailbag again. Mailbag questions come in@john corrales.com Mailbag Brian asks, Will Peyton Pritchard average more than 20 points this season or will he start or come off the bench? That's the question I've talked about whether he'll start or come off the bench a number of different times and in different places. My feeling look, he could start and he'd be justified in starting. He's earned it. No doubt about it. He, he can easily, you know, go into the starting lineup. You have him, Derrick White as your shooting guard, Jason Jalen Brown is your three. And then I don't know how do you want to play your front court? Do you want to put Hauser in as your four? Do you want to do like Boucher and kada as your 4 or 5? However that front court lines up, you could easily get away with Pritchard, White, Jalen. I think it should be White, Simons, Jalen. Because as I've said this on the podcast before, but I, I think to set up your lineups to get the proper distribution of minutes, you start Derek White as your point guard. Simons is your shooting guard. He's a really good scorer. That takes pressure off of Jalen Brown. So Simons is a start and look, so is Pritchard, right? And I'll get to him averaging 20 points. But Simons is a little bit of a more dynamic scorer and Pritchard is a better point guard. And I think you start Derek White, you sub him out at like the seven minute mark. Basically, the first TV timeout, you sub in Peyton Pritchard for Derek White, and then at the next TV timeout, you sub in Derek White for Jalen Brown. Brown plays the first 10 minutes of a quarter, and then you stagger them, you know, so Jalen comes in later, you know, seven, eight minute mark of the second quarter finishes it out. Derek can finish out the second quarter, but you want to have one of Derrick White and Jalen Brown on the floor at all times. And I think having Peyton Pritchard come off the bench is how you do that. And so it's not a knock on Peyton at all. I think just makes sense for minutes wise to. He'll. He'll still get plenty of minutes, and I'll get to the minutes distribution. In a minute. In a moment. But I think that's, that's just why I think I would bring Pritchard off the bench. So there, there's that. Can he average 20 points a game? Well, the per 36 minutes, just at his current numbers, at per 36, he averages 18.1. He averaged 18.1 points per game last year. So can he get two more points if he's playing somewhere near 36 minutes? Sure. How. How do we get him to 20 points per game? So he in actuality averaged 14.3. He played 28.4 minutes per game. So he's gonna play more minutes for sure. Not a ton, but maybe six more minutes. So that'll get him a couple more shots. So he can hit a couple more shots. He'll probably, you know, one of them will be a three. So right away, if he hits one more, three per game, takes. Takes one or two more and makes one more that gets him to 17 points. Mix in a couple extra free throws because he hasn't been taking a lot of free throws, because he hasn't. He hasn't had. He's been more of a catch and shoot or more just playing off of other guys. I think he'll have to create a little bit more. So maybe gets the line a little bit. You can find. You can find six points, you know, an extra three pointer, another. Another basket. Just a two pointer somewhere in a free throw that gets you to 20 points. So with the added minutes, with the added opportunity, I think. I think Pritchard can get himself. It's possible to get to 20 points. Am I predicting that he'll score 20 points? I. I don't. I don't know if I want to predict that yet, but I do think that he. It's. I can see it. I can see it happening. This brings me to Lenny, who says, can you break down the math of how many minutes are returning next year for the Celtics? Think that will help with perspective for the upcoming season? Okay, so returning minutes. Jalen, Derrick White, Peyton Pritchard, Sam Houser. I'm gonna say that those minutes, they're are gonna go up. 240 minutes are available in an NBA game, right? Five positions at 48 minutes apiece. So when you add up everybody's minutes plays played, it'll add up to 240 if, obviously, if there's no overtime. So Jalen will, you know, he played 34 last year. He'll play 35. Right. Maybe 36, but let's just say 35. We're not going to overdo it. Derek White played 30, almost 34 minutes. He'll play 35. We can we. Again, 36 is fine. So however you want to do it. I don't want to do 38. I want to. I don't want to say 40, just 35. 36 minutes there. Okay. Want to pump it up to 36. Fine. Peyton Pritchard, 28 and a half minutes. Let's say 32, 33. Sam Hauser played 20, almost 22 minutes. Let's say 28 for him. So if we say 36 a piece, 33 for Pritchard, 28 for Hauser, that's 133 minutes. So you still have to find a hundred and was 107 minutes beyond that. Now that's easy to do because you just got to figure out how it's going to be Spread out. Anthony Simons will get 32. So let's just, let's just say that's so what I say. 133 minutes. There's 241. So this gets you down to, you know, the minutes go by quick. You like, you got to figure out Keita Boucher, Garza, Tillman Charman, Josh Minot, Jordan Walsh. I don't think Google Gonzalez is going to play much, but once you throw Simons in there, I gotta write this down. I had it written down and I'm changing it in my. On the fly here. So 133, that gets us to 107. If you take 32 out, that's what. I'm not going to do this math in my head, right. 107 minus the 32. You're doing your hair. We're down to 80. 80 something at size, whatever. 20 minutes a piece for Kata Boucher Garza. In your, in your three big. Sometimes you play them together. Together. There's only about 20 minutes left. That could be Shireman and that would be it. And maybe some days KADA isn't playing and you can. Does Tillman get in there? Some days Jordan Walsh gets in there. But that's your minutes distribution just on the fly here. So White, White, Brown, Pritchard are all going to play 30 plus minutes a game. I think that's an easy way to, to leave it there and then we'll have to figure it out from there. Okay, so I hope that helped. Every time I do these minutes breakdowns, it you start eating up those minutes really fast and you're like, oh, there's so many minutes to be, to, to be handed out. And then you feel like, oh, let's put throw Simons in there, we'll throw Kate in there. You're like, oh my God, there's only like three more guys that you can play and, and that's not that much. So yeah, they get eaten up a lot. Okay, let's come back and we'll do Robert Williams. Robert Williams. Can we get Robert Williams back? That is coming up next.
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Thank you for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. Remember I just said it earlier. The lockdown NBA top 100 is here. It's voted on by Lockdown podcast hosts. It's all of us who cover the teams every day. You can find the whole list on Monday afternoon on Lockdown Sports, today on YouTube. Wherever you get your podcast, don't miss my reaction. We'll talk about that on tomorrow's podcast. Where did the Celtics players land? How many of them are in the top 100? Where's Tatum? Where's Brown? That's all coming up on tomorrow's podcast, so make sure you are tuning in for that and I'm sure people will be angry. I'll just leave it at that. Let's get back to the Mailbag questions again. Those come in at john corrales.com/mailbag Peter says Robert Williams will be an unrestricted free agent after this season. I know he has injuries. I know he's not available, but can the C sign him? Can you convince me? I'd rather have a 40 win season with time Lord playing half the time than a 60 win season without him. Peter loves Time Lord. Is this Chris Forsberg's burner? Look, I don't. I just don't see it happening. I'm not big on these reunions anymore. It's so funny. I having done this for a while, you realize like just how much people love these guys that played before. And it's anybody that leaves, anybody that leaves, people are like, can we get this guy back? Can we get this guy back? I think Rob is. Look, I love Rob. I would love to have Robert Williams back. I'd love to have him back in the locker room. If you've heard me and Tom Westerholm talking about him, we gush about how great it is to talk to him, but it's just not. It's not gonna happen. I'm sorry. It's. It's Just not meant to be. He's not, not healthy enough. And in today's collective bargaining agreement, you can't afford to be paying a guy that's not that healthy. You just can't have a roster spot, you can't have the salary taken up. It's just becomes so much less likely. Okay, moving on. Larry, we'll have some fun here. We need your yearly update on Yam Madar as he's doing okay on Israel's team in Eurobasket. He is doing okay, but he's not doing great. I didn't do great. He is now 20, turns 25 this year. He averaged 10 points a game in EuroBasket. He had a game, 17 points against France, which is a nice, nice game. 1917 points, four rebounds, three assists. Nice, nice game for him there, but nice game, right? Not great game. Not, oh, my God, he needs to be in the NBA game. I have not watched any of Israel play, so I can't, I don't, I do not have an updated scouting report on Yamadar. That's my fault. I should have anticipated people asking about Yam having, you know, oh, we, you know, we saw him play. I just, he's so out of my mind that I didn't even think, hey, let me watch a couple of these Israel games to see how Yamadar is doing. And I didn't see anybody tweeting about it or anything like that. So I know I'm not alone. So anyway, yeah, that's, that's. I, I think we just need to let it go. He's not coming over. He's. He's. Get the, you know, he's got the rights. I don't know if, you know, the Celtics can do one of those trading the rights to a certain player. I don't even know if you can do that anymore. The rights to a guy that are never going to come over in a trade, like for nobody, for nothing. But yeah, Yam's done, baby. All right, let's finish this. With Chase saying, at the start of the 2324 season, the Celtics added new in arena sounds, some of which stuck and others went away. What are your thoughts on new arena sounds and how could we know when changes are coming? I don't know how much, like there is a TD garden group, you know, the, the entertainment people there. I know they must work closely with the team, but I don't know to what degree. I don't know who in the Celtics organization is approving, not approving certain things so that, you know, it's a good question as far as how do we know when changes are coming? I'll look into that. But look, the, the Celtics have a very specific kind of old school sound with like the organ type of like a lot of organ type of music. They're not super obnoxious with the. In arena like music. Who am I thinking of? Like, Orlando is constantly playing music like some of these arenas. Every possession is just constantly music playing as the, as the game is going on. And it, it's. It's a little wild to me. I don't know. I know the players don't really pay attention to it and you know, it's. It kind of fades into the background for me because I'm there so often. But you know, as long as it's not overly obnoxious, I don't, I don't mind. Like, I get it. This is something to keep people interested. I've seen some of these games where like, we're not gonna do anything and it's so quiet that it becomes weird. Like we're just conditioned to have all of these sounds playing as we go on and on and on. That when they're not there, people are like, this is. It's distracting. So as, as long as the Celtics don't get obnoxious with it, I'm. I'm fine with whatever they do. The only thing I want to get rid of is the crazy train opening to the, to the games. Can we. I know Ozzy Osborne just died and so maybe they don't want to change it or maybe because he died, they're like, hey, look, we're going to retire this and go with something else. I, I personally, I like the triple H intro when it's like it's time to play the game. Like, that's awesome. Like, let's do it. Like, that's, it's perfect for the, the, the beginning of a basketball game, for the intros. Because it's the best part of it is the beginning. You don't need to get into the lyrics. Part of it's a very pump up. It's entrance music. It's triple H's entrance music. And so it's, it's designed to pump up an audience. Like I think it's, I think it's perfect. Like they should, they should go to that. So if I want new in arena sounds, that's the one I'm looking forward to change. Like, we've done, we've done it. It's. We don't have to carry this on forever. Give me a new, give me a new beginning to the game. Like this is the season to get it, start a new tradition. Let's do it. Other than that, the, you know, whatever everything else is is fine. You know, it's the same. Everybody clap your hands. Like everybody does that, that stuff. That's fine. You know, if they tinker, they want to update it, go for it. I'm in. All right, that's the mailbag episode. John corralis.com mailbag John corrales.com mailbag if you want to submit your questions, thank you for doing so. I do this every Monday during the off season. During the season I tend not to do as many because like there's stuff to talk about that's game related, that's a little bit more. But I do mix them in. So whenever the Celtics have an extra off day, I'll try to get questions in. So please submit your questions. Those of you who have thank you. I appreciate you being everydayers being part of this whole ride with me every day Monday through Friday. Really do appreciate you joining in and being an everyday listener. Hop onto the YouTube page, get into the comments section there, share your thoughts with me and share the podcast. Tell everybody they should be listening to and watching the Lockdown Celtics podcast here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. It's your team every day.
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