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VanVleet INJURED | Is there a TRADE for Celtics and Rockets possible?
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NBA shakeup: Fred VanVleet's injury rocks Houston Rockets. Does this open up an opportunity for the Boston Celtics to trade Anfernee Simons? John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal breaks down the ripple effects of VanVleet's ACL tear on the Rockets' roster and the league's new CBA. Gain insider knowledge from an NBA officiating camp, exploring how refs are trained and upcoming tech advancements in the game. Plus, Jaylen Brown's "new era" comments spark intrigue - is this a transformed Celtics star? Karalis analyzes Brown's evolving role and what it means for Boston's championship aspirations. Tune in for expert analysis on these game-changing developments and their impact on the NBA landscape.
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John Corrales
Does the FRED Van Vliet injury open up an opportunity to trade Anthony Simons? Plus I get an inside look at NBA officiating It's all right now on the Lockdown Celtics Podcast. Huh?
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John Corrales
Welcome back to the Lockdown Celtics Podcast right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. Where is your team every day? Your team is the Boston Celtics and I talk about them Monday through Friday for free right here on this podcast that is available everywhere podcasts exist. It's on YouTube. Get into the comments section. Share your thoughts with your fellow everydayers, people who are with me every Monday through Friday. Plus when the regular season starts, bonus podcasts when they play every day. So check that out. I'm John Corrales, by the way. I'm a host of the show covering the Celtics for Boston Sports Journal, but doing a version of this job for about 20 years now. I've also written a couple of books about the Boston Celtics. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. Make your first five dollar bet if you're a new customer and if you win, you get 300 in bonus bets to use across the app. So check that out@fanduel.com a couple different topics today. Later on we'll talk about Jalen Brown Talk. You know he's on his Twitch. He's he's a streamer now. He's all over the place. Interesting dynamic here for Jalen. I'll talk about that in the third segment. In the second segment, I'll, I'll talk about the, the reason why I'm on the road before the season starts. I, I get an inside look at NBA officiating at their annual camp right there. This is training camp opening up for all of these teams. There's a referee camp that opens up ahead of the season. 5 day intense camp that I got to be a part of for a day. That's in the second segment. But let's just start with the big news in the NBA, which is Fred Van Vliet's injury. This is an incredible off season. Honestly, I've never seen anything like this. We always talk about, like, oh God, I don't want this guy to play an international competition. He's going to get hurt this and that. Guys have been getting hurt in their off season workouts, their, their pre camp workouts. They're just on their own. Fred Van Vliet towards ACL just in a regular old workout. So we've seen, I don't know, five, six injury guys have had surgery. This, this has been an incredible preseason pre preseason for guys getting hurt, getting ready for the season. I don't know what to make of it. It's just probably just more of a quirk than anything, but it's still kind of wild to see all of these injuries happening in controlled situations. So you don't, you never know when a guy's going to get hurt. Van Vliet, Torres, acl, which puts the Houston Rockets in a, in a jam. And let's go listen to lockdown Rockets to see exactly, you know, the, the Amen, Thompson, Reed, shepherd, you know, they're going to rely on those guys. But a thing that's come up now, it's like, well, hey, we've got an extra guard here in Boston. Is there anything the Celtics can do to send Anthony Simons or somebody over to Houston and getting, you know, look, you don't root for injuries, but they happen. This is the situation that Houston is in. What do the Celtics do? Can they take advantage of the situation? I know it sounds gross, but this is like you, you wish the guy well again. You never root for any injuries. People come up say, hey, all right, well, here's the situation and the short answer is no. The Celtics are not going to get involved right away in this because the Rockets are hard capped at the first apron. Not only that, and this is the, the real difficult part about team Building in this new era. We talk about second apron and all of that, but there are first aprons, right? There's, you know, getting Kevin Durant and. And some of the moves they've made in the off season. Hard cap them at the first apron and have only given them $1.25 million of room before you reach that hard cap. And when we say hard cap, they are. They cannot, under any circumstances, surpass that. Not an injury, not nothing. Like this is. This is the real danger of making certain moves under this new collective bargaining agreement. The. The Rockets thought like, hey, we're set. We've got everything we. We can. We can hard cap ourselves at the first apron. It's okay because we. We've got our team, and you just hope for the best. Right? And you know that an injury is something you'd have to figure out if you get to that point. Well, that injury came in the middle of September, not November, December or anything like that. And it really has kind of like handcuffed. The Rockets, they. They can't go and sign. They can't even sign, like, a Markel Fultz. They can't even sign a Ben Simmons because that minimum contract takes them beyond that hard cap. You just. You can't be a penny over that. So they aren't signing one of the available guards, the trades. So that. That limits who they can trade. And a lot of these guys that might be moved aren't eligible to be moved until December 15th, so that puts them in a buy. This. This is why everybody's talking about Amen Thompson and Reed shepherd and. And those guys, because the. The Rockets don't have any other options. This is going to be who they go to. They're going to have to find their. Their answer in house. So the Celtics can't. You know, I'm sure the Rockets would love to be like, hey, well, we can talk about Anthony Simons, sure. But that won't happen until the middle of December. By then, we might know if any of the stopgap measures are actually good. And by then, other things might have happened, and you just don't know what the. The market's going to look like in, you know, the middle of December or what the Rockets are going to look like if. Yeah, I'm not going to say that losing Fred Van Vliet's gonna make them fall apart, but that's a. It's a pretty major piece. And. And who knows? Who knows? Maybe they find. Maybe they're just fine. They go, oh, no. You know, we we can, we can handle this. We're good. So any thought of the, the Celtics getting involved now and being like, hey, we got Anthony Simons here for you, and maybe taking advantage of giving them a player of need. They're, they're in a win now situation. And I understand the mentality. Absolutely. I mean, it makes perfect sense. They want to win now. The Celtics aren't necessarily in a win now situation. So why wouldn't you think to, to make that move? The Rockets just can't. They can't. They're, they're stuck for the next few months. They have no choice but to see if any of these internal candidates are going to be answers for what they're looking for. But I think it highlights the bigger picture of how willing our teams going to be to do things that hard cap them at certain levels. And, you know, there's, you know, you offer the full foot, full mid level exception to somebody and that hard caps you at the first apron. Now, some teams might say we're not even close, so it doesn't matter. Some teams might, like the Rockets, say we're close, but we don't care. This is our best chance. But I think we're starting to see these little things that will give teams pause to do some of these big things and, and spend their money. And I think that's exactly what the league wanted. The league wanted teams to be cautious about spending their money. There was never going to be an actual hard cap of whatever, whatever number, even at the second apron. But they could and they did implement these hard cap triggers to, you know, if you give the players certain things in other spots of the cba, these triggers made it in and it, it's not a full on hard cap, but it is making teams like it is hard capping teams for at least a year here, a year there. So I think that we're, we're really starting to get into the meat of like, oh man, maybe we don't want to do these certain things. And it is going to hold some of the spending down. And that's kind of what the league has always been looking for, holding the spending down. So teams aren't going way, way or specific. Teams aren't going way, way over. And yeah, great, they're taxpayers, but they want everybody to control their spending, be in a certain area. I think I've said this before on the podcast, but I think what's going to end up happening ultimately when this all we get to the end of the figuring out process and we just get into the mundane, nitty gritty. We've been in the CBA for a long time and I think everybody settles somewhere in this middle ground where you have a couple of teams, two, three teams that are bad and rebuilding and are going to be at the low end and a couple of teams are like, okay, this is our time to go for it. And you had a couple of second apron teams, but I think most teams are going to hover right around the spot where Houston is and hard cap or not, they're not going to want to go over that for a variety of reasons. So I, I, I think this is just the beginning, but we'll save that for bigger talk, lockdown, NBA talk or whatever. But the Celtics cannot get into the Fred Van Vliet solution business, at least not until the middle of December. And who knows what it's going to be at that point. All right, let's come back with the NBA officials camp. I got an inside look at NBA officiating. What, what they're ramping up to do really enlightening stuff that's coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by Monarch Money. There's a good chance that you have a bunch of investments, especially if you're a grown up like me and you probably can't name all of the places where your money is off the top of your head. You need one place, one centralized location, and Monarch Money is going to help you do that. You don't want to leave money on the table because you don't have your full financial picture. Monarch Money has an easy to use interface. You can use it on your laptop or your phone. 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John Corrales
Thank you for making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. I mentioned Lockdown NBA there's two Locked On NBA podcasts I'm hosting on Wednesdays this season with Jake Madison unlocked on NBA Game Night. When the season starts, we will be covering all of the games, but until then we're just covering the big stories in the league. The Fred Van Vliet injury is going to be big. That's part of the Lockdown NBA and Locked on NBA Game Night. Two podcasts on the same feed. Wherever you found this one, I was and you know, I mentioned I was, you know, I'm podcasting from hotels right now because I've gone to New York for the NBA's officiate officiating camp. Like they, they take five days in New York. All the officials, some prospective officials, it's, it's a lot of people, they, they spend five days pouring through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of plays and points of emphasis and things that, you know, it's kind of an incredible detailed view. And, and if you're a regular listener, you know that I'm not, I don't harp on officiating. I, I tend to get away, stay away from that knowing that some, you know, obviously officials impact plays. But the, when you see the depth of everything that they are looking at from their positioning on the floor, how they interact with one another, what their responsibilities are, they have very specific ways to watch the game. And you know, you, you see like they showed how you get into like a blown call and you know, specific plays that, you know, high profile plays where they say, well, the referee wasn't looking, you know, at where he was supposed to look and if he was looking where he's supposed to look, he Wouldn't have missed this call. And these types of things are like, very, very enlightening. So we got a little look at their points of emphasis. So we're going to start seeing. There's a couple of things that I think are interesting. One is you're going to see a lot of calls being made after the ball is released. So there's a very well known rule, like where the, it's called the high five rule, where once you release the ball, guys have just been able to like slap the, the shooter's hand. Be like, it's not really a foul because the ball is released, this doesn't impact the play. And guys have started to like, take advantage of that, really push the envelope and initiate contact. Like the ball is gone. And they'll initiate contact just to send messages to that shooter being like, hey, every time you shoot the ball, I'm gonna hear, I'm gonna be here to slap you on the wrist. So if you're sick of getting slapped on the wrist, don't shoot the ball. You know, those types of things. And the, they're going to start calling that now anything that's a little unnatural, any of those kind of things. So you're going to see a lot more fouls on jump shots, which can be interesting because the Celtics are going to be a very jump shot heavy team. And I wonder like early on in the season if this point of emphasis is going to be something the Celtics can benefit from. And it's a little quirk, It's a little thing. And it's not going to last forever because once, once those calls start happening, guys will get used to how the game is being called and those calls will start to go away. But for a jump shooting team, still trying to figure things out, you know, I've talked about how tough the early part of the schedule is, if there's anything like that that can give the Celtics a couple extra free throws, 2, 4, 6 extra free throws depending on the game. Maybe a couple of these games swing on a call that, that we weren't used to seeing. So. And there are other points of emphasis that at some point it's going to be, you know, put out publicly. Like these are the things that we're looking at. And they do a very good job of explaining everything. I asked them specifically about technical files because emphasis is on like the rules and the, you know, there are, there's guidance for technical files and there's certain things that are, you know, automatic triggers. And you know, you think about an automatic trigger for a technical foul. And you get that Jason Tatum wave off and that's always been like an automatic tech. I think the message that I got here is not necessarily specifically for the wave off, the Jason Tatum wave off, but they are, the officials are going to get a little bit more leeway this year that some of these things and I think, I think the Tatum kind of wave off is going to be in that mix. They're going to have a little bit more leeway to let guys kind of blow off a little steam. And so Tatum is like, he's never been in danger of a suspension. He knows how, how much, how much he can get away with and you know, he might be pushing 14, 15 text anyway, no matter what, if he wants to make a point, he'll make his point. So he might save a couple of technical file finds which are, I forget what they are, a few thousand dollars or whatever. Nothing, nothing of any consequence to Jason Tatum. So a couple of those wave offs might, might get let go, but I'm sure he can earn attack somewhere else along the way. So. But I think there, there's going to be. I think the league is trying to just, first of all, just make things a little bit more equitable, just treat players maybe a little bit more kind of evenly. So we might see some guys get texts that don't normally or, or some behavior that was kind of like tolerated might get a little. And then we might see some of the, the automatic triggers that used to be a tech kind of be like you get a little bit. So a little bit of leeway, I should say. So I think that's going to be, I think that's going to be an important part of. Now obviously Tatum is out for most of the season, if not all of the season, but I think it's gonna be an important part of officiating him moving forward. And the last thing that it seems like that I think they're going to try to do is just speed up what's called like the administration of the game, which means free throws. I'm very curious to see. And this was not addressed specifically but like the Giannis and tentacumpo taking 10 seconds to mimic his shot. Like, and they just wait. Like, I think they're gonna like, from what I understand, they might start like just hey, here's the ball, shoot it and you got 10 seconds to shoot it. So like Giannis has to figure that part out. But they're not going to, they're not going to like sit around and wait to See if, you know, a team's going to challenge anything. You know, those moments where Al Horford is always like, inbound the ball. I'm here, I'm here, I'm ready, I'm ready. I think those moments are actually going to move to what Al Horford wants to do. Like those, those are just going to become inbounded. You know, they're. They're not going to sit around and wait for challenges and stuff. So I thought the, the officiating stuff was super interesting. The camera stuff, they have like a ton of new cameras, high speed cameras that are going to be able to. I think eventually you're going to start seeing in the broadcasts not quite like the Hawkeye tennis stuff, but you're going to start to see, like on goaltends, you're going to see, like, visualizations during the broadcast of the ball, like, coming down. So it is actually, it is going to look a little bit like the Hawkeyeish stuff. And they're going to use some of that technology, that same technology, but a shot on the way down, like, did the ball pass its apex? And you're going to actually see a visualization of that on broadcasts. And I think that's gonna be like a cool little element to that. And the league is eventually going to be working towards a lot more of that automation. You know, out of bounds calls, goaltending calls, they're going to be able to. I don't know how they're going to do it, but they're, you know, the way it was characterized to us was within like three to five years. It's still a ways off, but they're going to be, they're. They're hopefully going to be able to, you know, all of those offensive golden tending calls that they miss, the, the. Or the goaltending, where the ball hits the backboard, where the refs miss those a ton. Like, those are. Those are calls are going to be left up to the automation at some point, so. Which will free up the officials to actually make the calls on the floor and focus on that stuff. They don't have to follow the trajectory of the ball or whatever. That. That system will take care of that. So the way the games officiate is going to change over time. So I thought it was really cool. And as the season progresses, I hope to apply some of, like, the little nuanced stuff that makes for a crappy podcast, but is good for, like, explaining why certain calls were made. I hope to apply that to some of the stuff that we're going to be talking about here over the course of the season, why a call was made or missed or whatever. So hopefully my little day at officiating camp will benefit the podcast and your knowledge during the, during the season, this season and moving forward. So very cool of the NBA to to do that. I was very excited about that, that it's going to wrap up the show with Jaylen Brown on his Twitch stream. He's a Twitch streamer now talking about how we're in a new era that is coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by FanDuel. New customers. You sign up at FanDuel right now, you make your first five dollar bet. 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John Corrales
For making Lockdown Celtics your first listen every day. Remember we got Mailbag Mondays. Still doing mailbags@john corrales.com mailbag john corrales.com mailbag Submit your questions. I'll answer them on Mondays. Once the season starts we get to maybe different days, but I like the alliteration of Mailbag Monday. So for now, as long as I can, I'm gonna do Mailbag Mondays. Jalen Brown it's so interesting. Jalen is like out there now. First of all, cool to see him out there helping Bill Nye getting his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Jalen's having his himself a nice little off season where, you know, he's been around Boston schools. He's, he's giving back to the community in a big way, which is really cool to see. He's been, I think, more out there. I don't know if this is, you know, part of him evolving as a player, as a person. I haven't seen him streaming as much as he is now. He's, he's kind of doing kind of, I don't know. He's always been a more, I think, private type of person it seems. And now he's kind of putting himself out there, which is super interesting to see. So he was on Twitch and he was. First of all, he was calling people to see who would pick up. He didn't have. He had. He has a new number. So no one picked up. They didn't recognize his number. Eventually got through to Peyton Pritchard, which was cool. But he said, quote half the team is gone. I wish them the best. I appreciate them. They were great teammates. But it's a new era. Everything has kind of changed and shifted. Sticking with his energy has shifted thing. He continues to say that and yeah, okay, sure. And I thought it was interesting because I was just asked a question in the yesterday's mailbag about is this a new chapter, a new story? And, you know, Jalen's looking at this as a new era because a few teammates are. Are gone, which I disagree with. As I said yesterday, I still think that Jalen and Jason are the main characters. And this is just an interesting kind of like, twist to, like, the nearly end of their story. But I still think it's the same story just with some new characters being involved at the end. Right. Sometimes, like, think of Shawshank Redemption when they brought in that guy. I forget what the kid's name was that couldn't read. And Andy teaches him to read, but they ended up shooting him as part of the. The plot. You needed to get Andy frustrated so he can finally escape. So you bring in a new character. And I think some of these are like new characters. So. But it was interesting to hear him talk about this new era. And. And I think. I think for Jalen like this, this is part of his new era. It's very interesting for him to say it that way because to me it's, you know, Jalen is taking this turn, right? This is his last season in his 20s in the NBA. So next season, the 26, 27, he's going to be 30. And that. That's a big turning point in a player's career. Even though at 30, you can still do a lot of the same stuff that he was doing at 27. It's not like you can noticeably lose a step at 30, but that three, as that first number in your age in the NBA level, that's. We're. We're hitting retirement age, right? You retire at 30 something. Now, Jalen is an elite player. He's probably not going to retire until he's, you know, 36, 37, 38, potentially depending on how his career progresses and what he wants to do. But 30 something is going to. Is your retirement age. Unless you're LeBron, right? Very select. Few get that four in their. @ the beginning. Beginning of their age. So it is a beginning of a new era for Jalen. And not only is he leading this team, but this is a whole new potential chapter in it. Like, you have three specific, very specific kind of chapters in a player's life. You get the young proving yourself kind of, you know, still trying to earn that big contract, still. Still trying to prove that you're an NBA, you know, player or an NBA star or whatever. Then you have like, your prime, which Jalen is firmly in. And it's like, let's rock, right? You're doing things that you never thought that you could do before. You're innovating your game. Jalen's developed that step through move, which is really good. You're. You're really kind of like, exploring the studio space, so to speak. And then you get your 30s, that next stage of, like, you know, starting at, I don't know, like, 32ish. It's like, all right, we start talking about you in a different way that, that early 30s, you know, 27 is your prime. Say 27, 28, 29, 30, 31. You sort of go like, okay, you were at the tail end of his prime.32. You're like, okay. People start to talk to you like, you're the vet. You're the vet, right? You're. You're the og. And now we're starting to talk about, like, when Jalen's 32 and Jason's 31 and like, okay, that's. We're gonna start, like, really looking at the hard decisions that are going to start being made in team building. Every team has to face them when, when their stars get to be in that. In that area. You have hard decisions to make that are made harder by this new cba, this chapter. For, For Jalen, it's not just a new era for, for the Celtics. It's a new era for him. And I think, I think all of this is part of it. You know, the, The Twitch streaming, the. The. The stuff that he's doing. Like, yes, he's promoting a brand, and he's also promoting himself, and he's also. I think you have to be a little bit more at ease with yourself to put yourself out there like that and feel like you can, you know, be like, misinterpreted or misjudged and, like, not care. It's. I think, I think Jalen is, Is turning that corner, which I think is great. It's like a helpful kind of like, if the, the fewer Fs that you give in that regard, it shows up on the court, you know, and I, I. So it's interesting to see him do this. It's interesting to see him be this kind of player, be this kind of person, and to, to hear him that, like, I'm going to be following him on Twitch. I'm going to see the, you know, the progression here, how he approaches certain things. And look, he said he's going to be watching film on there and he's going to be like, kind of breaking things down. So I'm very, very curious to see how he sees the game as well. So that, that's going to be, you know, for him to be doing that openly. Talk about new era. This is a. This is a new kind of version of Jalen Brown, and I'm all for it. Like, I, I think this, I'm really looking forward to Jaylen Brown this season. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does in this role, how he excels in this role and what it means for him. I've talked about that a lot of. But I loved the way he was able to handle those opportunities this past season. I thought this past season he was probably at his best as the, the lone star on the team. Like when Jason was out and Jalen was there as the number one guy, I thought Jalen really, really showed up in and played the right way. And I haven't talked about Paul Pierce's advice to Jalen Brown where he talked about needing to be like more things to more of his teammates rather than just make up for Jason's absence. I thought we saw Jalen doing that a lot last year. He didn't, didn't work every game. And I think, you know, the, obviously the, the elimination game in New York, Jalen was, you know, his knee was, you know, the meniscus was really hurting him. So that. That almost doesn't count. But anyway, I, I just, I loved how Jalen handled that role last year. If he can take that next step forward, same type of attitude and just extrapolate that out for 82 games or however many games he plays, it, it really. We talk about new era, it could be a new era for him. 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