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Could The Cowboys EXPLOSIVE Offense Be One-And-Done?!?!
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DAK PRESCOTT'S IS PLAYING LIKE AN MVP: He is supported by a talented offensive braintrust including Offensive Coordinator Klayton Adams, but could his time here be short lived?
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The Cowboys offensive coaching staff has done a phenomenal job through five games this season. But are they at risk of getting poached before next season? We'll answer that question and all of your questions on today's episode of the Locked on Cowboys podcast. You are Locked On Cowboys, your daily Dallas Cowboys podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast network.
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Landon McCool
Thank you for making the Locked On Cowboys Podcast your first listen every day. Part of the Locked On Podcast network. Your team every day. I am your host Landon McCool. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5 and if your bet wins, you'll unlock $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. What a fantastic show we have for you today. It's a Landon solo show and we are answering your questions including what positions should the Cowboys target in a trade? And with all the success the Cowboys offense, is there a chance they could lose some of their brain chest after this season? But first we got a couple questions that are kind of all in the realm of will youth get served on this team? Will will there be opportunity for some of these younger guys to play over some of the veterans? It seems to be specifically on the defense, but not only we got Midnight Butterfly At Beirut wedding on Blue sky says. What I was hoping you and Marcus would address directly is, yes, Shamar James is flawed, but is he worse than Jack Sanborn? Same question for Leo foul and might we need them to play more to gain that experience? And I think that that is the kind of complicated question here, right, is that I don't think that it's easy just to say right now that Shamar James is a better player than Jack Sanborn. I think that Jack Sanborn, still a veteran, still seen a lot more than Shemar James. I think that experience is still serving him, even if he's not nearly the athlete that Shemar James is. Look, Shemar James had a lot of tackles on Sunday, but that's not necessarily a strong indication of good linebacker play. I mean, it's an indication that he's a good tackler. But if you're tackling a running back 8 yards back on the line of scrimmage, that probably means that you didn't read the play in time to tackle him only two or three yards away from the line of scrimmage. So it's definitely a good sign that he's making the tackles as opposed to just missing the tackles. But it's not necessarily a good sign that he's making the correct read. He's getting downhill on time, that he's making the tackle at the time that you would like for him to make, which is obviously when it would be a negative play for the offense, not six or seven yards per chunk. And, and that's. And with Leo foul, it's. It's more just a consistency thing. Right. I think we've seen Leopard come in there, make huge plays. You know, obviously the force fumble comes to mind immediately, but beyond that, we've seen him, you know, make some other big plays last year as well, but then we've also seen him kind of been the result of big plays, right? Like getting picked on at times. And it just feels like there's a lot of up and down with him at times. And it's. I think the, the question that, that you find that finally got asked at the end there was would we might need to play them more to gain the experience? And I think that's really hitting the nail on the head here, right, is that I think the risk is. Is vers. The reward here is that you should be playing these young guys because right now the veterans are probably, like we said, maybe a little bit better than the younger guys. But the return that you're going to get by playing guys like Leo Fowl and James. And then as they get better, obviously they'll cross that threshold of being better football players than their veteran counterparts. I think that's what you have to continue to work from work towards even if you're going to take your lumps early while they're kind of learning, especially with James. He just doesn't have a ton of experience clearly as a rookie. But I think that you, you take the opportunity for them to take those lumps and see if they can grow a little bit. Moving on to something very similar again from at Huelas Underscore L on Twitter. Which of the backup OL player offensive line players is potentially an upgrade compared to the starters? I mean we talked a little bit about Nate Thomas's play. I think he played very well. I think the guy that's the probably the closest to starter level is either Brock Hoffman or TJ Bass. TJ Black Bass played really good football. But I think again, you know, it's another situation that even if Bass was a little bit better than Booker, and I don't think that that's necessarily the case here, I think that, that it Booker is probably overall right neck and neck with Bass, if not a little bit better. You're gonna play the younger, more talented upside guy in Booker. And I think you're thrilled to have a guy like TJ Bass on the team. But I think in this situation it's, it's a no brainer. You know, you want to play the guy that is a little bit more talented. You know, the question also will become against, you know, Nate Thomas and Terence Steele. I think that that's something that needs to be explored a little bit just to get Thomas more opportunity at tackles, potentially a position, a right tackle that he will could be taking over in the next season. But I think that as it stands right now, I'm not interested in like moving Booker off to get Bass more stabs. It's not like Bass has been so much better than Booker if he's been better than Booker. And Booker's got such an enormous upside. Just he just needs snaps. He needs to continue to play in the NFL and he's going to continue to get better. Last one kind of in this same Realm was @Jacobs54 Wyatt on Twitter or on X or whatever they're calling it today. Asked did Flournoy do enough to press for Tolbert's job? The whole wide receiver three situation or whatever you want to call that slot, that isn't the Turpin role, that that isn't the Pickens and CD role is really fascinating, right? I mean, obviously Fenoy and, and Tolbert are the ones that we're talking about because Tolbert's the kind of de facto guy at the job. Floynoy is the new flavor of the month, having just had a very big game, obviously, but Jonathan Mingo is the guy that, you know, had a nice training camp, showed you a lot before getting injured and unfortunately had to go on ir. But he's coming back and I think likely should be back this week if they open up his practice 21, practice day, practice window. And I think the three of them are going to have what's going to be a very healthy competition between the, of all of them to see who gets the lion's share of those jobs. And, and I think special teams is going to play a huge part of it. And we've seen Flournoy and, and, and Tolbert, you know, shine in that. We'll see what Mingo can do in that realm as well. But I, I also think that, you know, what they do as wide receivers is going to account for something as well. Tolbert has been a guy that has been a very reliable security blanket for Dak for many years, and I think that that's sort of what's kept him around at certain points. Even last year when he had his, by far his most productive year, simply because he was being targeted more because there wasn't really anyone else to throw the football to at certain points. I think that you saw a guy that was competent, that could perform as a, you know, replacement level wide receiver, an average wide receiver in the NFL, but he wasn't exactly flashy. He wasn't exactly a guy that was, you know, going to break a bunch of tackles and, and make a big play that way. The big plays that he would make were being where Dak expected him to be and Dak making a play to get him the ball. Tolbert is, is a, is a solid player and I'm not trying to downgrade him, but if you're looking at, to upgrade that position, I think you look at the guys like Fenoy and Mingo who you feel like maybe have some more physical upside, who you hope can do a lot of the same things that Tolbert can and then can get you into a situation where maybe you have a surplus at that position. And look, we're going to talk about the potential for the Cowboys making some trades a little bit later. Tease, tease. But I don't know that one of these guys is necessarily One that you would flip player for player to go get a defensive player. But maybe you throw in one of these guys, you know, Tolbert, maybe if you're trying to just add a little bit of, of something extra to get a trade over the top, having a, you know, several competent down roster, wide receivers, guys who could go out there and do all the things you need to do, run block, they can plant special teams, they could go out there and catch, you know, clutch passes at the times you need them to. I think that's valuable in the NFL and the Cowboys happen to have kind of a surplus at that spot. If Mingo can come back and be healthy as well. This is a great segment, guys. We're going to keep going. Next segment, we're going to be talking about the potential for trades. What would the Cowboys be looking at in any kind of potential trades? Make sure you stick with us. Later we're going to be talking a little bit more about the coaching staff and what kind of, you know, expectations of poaching should we have if the Cowboys continue to have the positive vibes coming out of the coaching staff for the rest of the season? So make sure you guys stick with us and we'll be right back. The NFL season is here and fanduel has an offer you don't want to miss right now. New customers can bet just $5 and get 300 in bonus bets back if you win. That's right, pick a bet, put down five bucks and if it hits, you'll unlock $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. I love betting on game day. I love, you know, getting, getting an itch and getting a feeling and then hopping on and making a bet. It just gives a little bit extra edge when you're sitting on the couch watching 12 games at once. You pick one out, you want to put some money down and hopefully it gives you a little bit more zest to your Sunday afternoons. 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And it's not that I don't think that they're going to. I think that they're just waiting for opportunities. He has been deployed in lots of two back since. The Cowboys have done a lot of kind of two back stuff, 22, 21 personnel stuff. So he has gotten a lot of snaps. He just hasn't gotten a lot of touches yet. We saw that kind of designer little swing pass that was a great play design by Schottenheimer. We'll talk a little bit more about Shotty and Clayton Adams in the next segment. But I do want to just kind of point out that that play, that swing out pass that he's talking about, it was, it was a really great play design because you see these plays nowadays where, you know, teams are sending wide receivers down the field and in these zone coverages and man coverages as the defensive backs are getting deeper and deeper down the field, that's when the opportunity for checkdowns becomes more and more advantageous and you can get bigger and bigger chunks because you've got those second and third level defenders dropping further and further back into coverage and they're just creating a bunch of space. You know, what we've seen these last few years in the prevalence of COVID 2 and deeper zone stuff, shell coverages is that teams have had some success kind of creating just dump off situations to their running backs right in front of usually where the ball is snapped and then they can pick up three, maybe four yards before the linebackers come downhill and, and make these tackles. And what you started to see is teams do a little bit of what we saw with, with Hunter Lipke on where they're swinging the ball out to the flat, but they're also sending a lineman out almost kind of like a, a one man screen kind of out into the flat as kind of a lead blocker. So now you've got Lipke, even though he's, I think it was a third and 10 play, if I'm not mistaken. Mistaken. Now you've got Lipke catching the ball like three or four yards behind the line of scrimmage, but he's Got a man alignment out in front of him, blocking. All the second and third level defenders are deep because they're expecting a deep pass to, to get down the field to try to convert. And he's got. So now Lipke's got nothing but green grass in front of him. Opportunity to get ahead of steam and a blocker in front of him. It was. And so he was able to convert. I think play plays like that really do present you with an opportunity to take advantage of some of these, you know, more modern coverages and defenses. And. And back to the original question by Yuma. Yeah, I do think that you're going to get to see more opportunities for, for a guy like Lipke to get more touches as the season goes on. Right now, like we said, he's been doing a lot of blocking stuff, a lot of inline, not in line, but like, you know, eye formation, traditional fullback stuff. You know, he's, he's. He'll be an offset eye guy. You'll see him as a wing, you'll see in motion. We've seen him do some split zone action, blocking as well, so. And then obviously in special teams, too, he's one of the key, key guys on special teams, on kickoff coverage, punt coverage. So, you know, he's a guy that he's gonna do a little bit of everything. And I, I do want to see him get more opportunities to touch the ball. And I think that, you know, as several people have pointed out as well, part of the issue that we're not seeing Lipke touch the ball as much and, and we talked about this on the show previously is that, is that Javante Williams has been so good that you kind of just want to continue to give him touches you don't want to like. I think some of the touches that you would have thought that would have normally gone to Lipke have gone to Javonte Williams because he's, he's done such a great job. And I listen, I'm as big a Hunter Lipke fan as anybody, you know, and I'm not going to complain about Javante Williams getting those touches just because of the way that he's produced so far this season. All right, let's. Let's get to the second section of this. And another question from my guy, Mark Guida on Blue sky for the show tomorrow. If you were to make a trade to get some defense, are you going edge or linebacker and what are you spending? And Mark, I hope you don't mind, I'm going to kind of hijack this question A little bit as a means to discuss kind of the way I think about trades and I think the way that they think about trades is, you know, you have to kind of view it as, you have to kind of create a matrix or a spreadsheet, right, of the value of what you'd be willing to give up and then all the other variables that kind of figure into what their trade value is. Right? It's, it's age, it's their contracts, it's their performance, like how they're playing currently. And, and the contract section too is, is, is, is not just as simple as how much are they being payment paid and how much are you going to have to pay them. It's a lot about how much the current team is going to have to pay or how much money they are going to get get back by trading this because you know, in order for it to make it worth the while for the team that's giving away a player. Like if you're going out to trade for a high end player. You know, I think a great example we kind of talked about is Max Crosby, right? Max Crosby has one kind of barrier into this trade is that there's a lot of guaranteed money on that contract. And so the, the, the, the Raiders are potentially going to have to eat a lot of guaranteed money and in order to make this trade, which makes it less palatable for the Raiders to want to make the trade if they're not going to save a bunch of money on top of getting the assets that you get when you get in this trade. It's just not going to make it worth your while if you're, you know, getting a first or two first round picks or whatever, they're going to ask for a guy like Crosby. And then on top of that you're not only not saving money but maybe losing money by potentially getting rid of a guy that you, you've guaranteed a whole bunch of money to. So that's a, that's an under thought about part of the trades is not only like what is the money that you're taking on but potentially what money could the trading team be taking on by, by trading away a player with guaranteed money. These are all just the kind of factors, but I think you have to look at the different kind of tiers of pricing as far as what you would trade away to get these players and then figure out like what you're willing to spend in relation to where you think you are. For instance, if you know, if you're a, a Philadelphia Eagles or a Green Bay packers or a team that is kind of considered to be a Super bowl contender, like, you know, maybe one piece away, you're in that kind of weird spot where you'd be willing to give up a high resource, like a first or second round pick for even an older player if he's a super productive player. Because you're, you're desperate, you're in win now mode. You're trying to get over the top. I don't think the Cowboys are in that situation. They shouldn't be trying to. You know, I think Hendrickson is kind of right on the border of that, right where he's a little bit older. So it might be tough to convince yourself that you've got like a long term future with this guy. But for a team that's like trying to go all in, that's, that's right there on the cusp, I think it would make more sense for them to trade. So I think for the Cowboys, I think that's why we, Marcus and I keep talking about needing to win probably one more game before you feel good about what exactly you're willing to give up and where you are in the kind of buyer seller spectrum of these teams. If you win this game, you feel like you're on the cusp of being a good enough team to get into the playoffs and be frisky. I think that's when you're more likely to go and spend third, second, first round pick on a guy that you potentially think is someone who could come in. And I think that's the difference right now is that you want somebody who could come in, hopefully produce for you now, but also be part of your long term rebuild and someone that you could sign for a long term deal in the future as well. So those are my thoughts about the trade. Coming up, we're going to talk some more about the coaching staff and what a great job that they've done and have they done too good a job. 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It's still going. Welcome back to the Locked on Cowboys podcast. All right, our last segment, we have a question from Sear at seek SEK Horn at Blue sky. And he said one question for your next mailbox show. Have you seen anything in the passing game design, slash play sequencing from Shoddy that has you excited? I know Dak has been balling out and run designs are great, but do we finally have an offense that helps him rather than expects him to solve all problems? And I really do think that, that we do. And I think that, you know, we've talked about it all training camp about the positive things that we've heard Brian Schottenheimer talk about that he wants to do. He talked about, you know, tempo, condensed formations, motion, you know, play action. We, you know, the, the kind of a multiple, multiple run game. All the things that he talked about that we felt like would be positive ads to this offense that we've all, you know, I mean, I think folks that have been watching this show have, have been, we've all been calling for the, the, the Cowboys to add into their offense. He talked about adding. And every step along the way. And this is something that I've been pointing out for since Schottenheimer has been hired. Every step along the way, Schottenheimer has confirmed what he has said. Like he has, you know, put his money where his mouth is. And, and they have shown the things that they've talked about showing. I think you know the play design on what we talked about last segment, right that kind of, that newer design sort of, you know, one man screen to the, To Lipke. That was a cool design. Another play design that I've been, I've been begging for that that we saw this weekend. Javante Williams scored a touchdown on a play action throw to the flat. I, it's, it's a play design that a lot of smart offenses run that almost nobody covers. And it, it seems like it, it scores every time you run it. I'm so glad to see the Cowboys kind of folded in motion. The numbers on motion have I think more than doubled that. The Cowboys are in the top 10 if I'm not mistaken, in most motion usage after being, you know, near the bottom 15 last season. Play action passes way, way up. You know, we've seen the condensed formations that we've, we've, we've been promised the varied use of, of of of formations formation and then actually being able to be productive out of multiple types of formations. These are all things that I feel like Schottenheimer has, has done by just slightly just taking the playbook that was there and then tweaking all the aspects just using every part of the offense that it felt like just were neglected under the McCarthy era. Right? Just he would wouldn't use play action, he wouldn't use motion. And I think some of this stuff is even maybe outside of Dax comfort zone initially. And I think Dak deserves credit for buy in as well because there's other things about like Dak and the way he's using his legs a little bit more. He's willing to use his athleticism. So I think that part of it is buy in by this offense, you know, and kind of trusting Schottenheimer and what he's saying and what he's and what he's selling to them. But then on top of that he's like I said, he's putting his money where his mouth is. He's actually doing the things that we've been asking him to, to do to this offense. And, and, and I think that, that it's, you know, garnered incredible results. Obviously Clayton Adams deserves a huge amount of, of respect here and, and, and mentioning here, but I think it's, it's the combination of the kind of three figureheads of this offense, Dak Prescott, Brian Schottheimer and Clayton Adams that really makes this a special unit. And I think that leads us right into our next question from @ silent platypi. Great. Fantastic name. Do we need to start worrying about losing Clayton Adams to head coaching openings next season? I think it's a legitimate question. When you look at the numbers from where the Cowboys have gone and a run game efficiency to where they are now from last year to this year, and then you look at reverse of that. If you look at the, the, the, the Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals run game efficiency from where they were last year with Clayton Adams to where they are now, they've gone from near the top to near the bottom. So I have to think that Clayton Adams is a huge part of that. I think also that what we've seen from the ability to kind of recover and be able to absorb the injuries that the Cowboys had on their offensive line and be able to kind of not miss a beat. Obviously Clayton Adams, Conor Riley too, deserve a huge amount of credit there for being able to scheme things up in a way that they were able to limit the exposure to the quarterback while playing with a bunch of backups. So I, I do think it's certainly something to be considered and I wouldn't be shocked if he got a couple of interesting interviews. But I also think that Clayton is probably, you know, a step away from that. He probably needs to be a play caller, an offensive coordinator before I think he's going to be getting serious head coach consideration. We'll see. But it certainly is possible and we've seen, you know, more interesting and more unique rises to head coaching jobs before. But I do think that it is a situation that he's probably going to be a year or two away. So I think the Cowboys are probably, probably safe there. One last question before we get out of here at Chris, was it at Crunkle Chris on on Twitter asks if Marcus wasn't your co host, who would you want to co host with? And Mark, no offense, Chris, I'm gonna go ahead and take this question and twist it around as an opportunity to talk about how great it is to have Marcus as, as podcast host. Co host. We, we've been doing this now for I don't even know how long. It feels like 25 years more than, I think 2, 000 episodes. And he, the guy just loves football and loves talking football and we'll talk football any time of the hours, night or day. Doesn't matter how many kids he has in his arms screaming. The guy loves football and he loves doing this show. And I, I think some people get mad at him because he doesn't has resilience sometimes during football games and he gets upset. But you have to understand where where that generation of Cowboys fans are, you know, and they haven't seen the success that some of this older folks that have. We're old enough to remember Cowboys Super Bowls have. So just an appreciation for my co host Marcus Moan. Make sure you guys give him his credit as well. So that is it for us on the Landon Solo show. We're gonna have one more of these. I'm gonna do the preview for the Carolina game so make sure you guys check us out on Friday. Tomorrow we will have the crossover podcast that Marcus is doing with the Locked On Panthers host. So make sure you guys check this out. Thank you for making Locked on Cowboys your first listen of the day. The NFL season is finally here. For your second listen, get a double dose of the Locked On NFL podcast. Tyler the Madman Roland gives you a shot of espresso to to start your football day while Tony Wiggins takes you to the barber shop for the smoothest breakdowns to end the day. Find Locked on you Locked on NFL on YouTube or wherever you listen to your podcast. Foreign.
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